04-06-26 Part One - A Daring Rescue

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Good morning. Happy Monday. I'm just sitting here reading this article here. Democrats face backlash for leaving Biden out of Easter. Better times post.

But how to better times they had a picture of Obama. And it's like, what about Biden? Right. [Laughs] Now we won't remind them.

I'm not going to do it now because of a bunch of other stuff to talk about.

But the first thing I thought of was when I was reading that right.

I mean, just before we went on the air. Because Ellen just handed it to me. And I was one of the first headlines I saw. A Democrats face backlash for leaving Biden out of Easter. Better times post.

Was better times. Obama. Let's go back.

“What's the biggest complaint from Democrats right now in blue states?”

A lot of people are going to be in the state of the state of the state of the state. And I think of us. We played it. Played in the probably three or four times in the last couple of weeks. Obama back in February of 2008 when he told the San Francisco Chronicle.

Under my plan. Gasoline prices. Excuse me. Electricity prices wouldn't necessarily skyrocket. Yeah.

It was his goal. Yeah. It's like his goal.

Let's get back to better times.

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1030. Before I went to bed. Wow. He's just getting the 10 commandments now. Which was getting near or the end.

1030. This is only like five or six minutes left. Oh, that's right. Commercials every five seconds. Yeah.

I have the DVD somewhere. I should just go and watch the DVD. But it's well over two hours. But you just, you think about the, just all the, the, the grandiose cinematography that was created. Every production element.

My gosh. It just, it really. I mean, the, the skies. They, the, the, the, the, the parting of the Red Sea. All, everything was so ahead of its time.

And in the 50s. Oh, yeah. And, and I'm think, I mean, the flames could have been better. I mean, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

It's, but, you know, you think you fast forward to really the breakthrough in CGI for movies was.

The, the, the Steven Spielberg movie Jurassic Park. And because they had, they had done one version of it. And then Spielberg didn't like it and they went back and read it. All of the, the one where all of the dinosaurs are just running really fast through the field. And, and so that was kind of the breakthrough in CGI.

Now with AI, you could, you could make a whole movie. They're, they're, they're, the Val Kilmer. There's a Val Kilmer project actually that he was a part of before he passed. And, and, and they're, they're creating an AI Val Kilmer for scenes for that movie. And it was, it was one that he was heavily involved in and very passionate about.

“They said, and, and that's why they have the blessing to do that.”

They have the blessing to do that to, you know, the, the permission to go forward with that. And news is like this VA, AI will see how, you know, it's received and see what it looks like. But, but you think about cinematography back then. I mean, there were so many, there were so many tricks that you had to use. That we just kind of became used to.

But that movie just pulled it off in a way. In order to set a tone that was, of course, very specific. It had to be a very specific tone. It had to look majestic for the storytelling that it was. For that particular storyline, you got to get it right.

You know, you need it to look right. And there was, there was just some great acting though. I mean, you know, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you know, you know how you know, it's great acting. When you absolutely despise, I might even be able to use the hate word.

You, you, you, you look, you go, what an evil person or Edward Edward G. Robinson. Oh, you know, I mean, he was like, oh, just absolutely. Yeah, you can just feel, I mean, it was, yeah. You just despised him. Yeah, he was just like, really did. And, and so you just, you, you know, Vincent Price.

Yeah. Oh, you know, it's like, it's like, I hate that. Yeah. And it was, but every one of those actors brought the A game of their A game.

“I mean, it was, it was beyond, I think, for each of them,”

their greatest performances. And, and of course, that's required, too. You think about the director has to pull that out of them. But you think, don't, you know, halfway through that movie, people got, they had to be going, where does this all fit together? How do we do this? I mean, because there's so many scenes in it.

Yeah. It just, and, and you, you think about just all the, the extras that were used in it and the special effects. Right. That they, they used outside of the flames. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think the water was the water scene done in the one studio lot. I think it was done in that one studio lot in the United States.

It's an infamous pool that they used for.

“I think it's still there. I think, I think, I think they still use it.”

Yeah, parking lot, whatever. And then if they use it, the cars can park there. And they put the pool up and they, they've done a ton of stuff in that pool. Yeah. What was the one with Jim Carrey when he was in the boat? Was that one?

Uh, it's like, what was it?

The only snake it was that it on. No, it wasn't that one. No, no, no, no.

“Is it the one where one or everything is fake? He lives in the river. Oh, oh, oh, oh, the,”

Truman show. Truman show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They use that pool in the Truman show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny because you, when you see it in the parking lot, you're like, that's where they did it. Right. But they've got a huge screen behind it, which they can do stuff on. But they use it as a parking lot. Right. Yeah. Many ocean scenes film there. And one actor said that I forget which movie he was talking about. And he said, it just, it still felt like the ocean. It still felt so deep and.

That's, you know, that you were uncertain as to what what might be in there. What my, and nothing was in there. But, you know, they had to film the scene. You know, it's like when you look at the old bannanza or a ton of old westerns. Yeah. And you see the street that they did it on in the fake mountain behind it. Yeah. And I can, you probably could look at 50 different TV shows, westerns, movies, whatever. When you see that mountain, it's basically a paper, a machine, mountain or whatever it is. All right. Built it. Yeah. And it looks like it's, you know, you would look, but they put it so close to the town. It was a made up mountain. Right. And you would think that it was a couple of thousand feet high. And it was maybe a hundred feet high and just sat back at the set. Right. And it's like, you know, just how they did that. But yeah. You have a good Easter. We did. It was, it was quiet. I have a daughter who's been in out of the hospital.

A very serious migraine situation that it appears as of the last couple of hours. They've got an on top of. So she's feeling better. But it was, we were very concerned. You know, when my, because my daughter and my adults children are getting older, you know, I mean there are adults. And so they, you think of them still as children, you know, they all live, you know, in their own house. It's just, that actually makes it more nerve wracking for my wife and I, we were, we jumped out of bed to go rush to the hospital. And then got a call from my granddaughter, my daughter's daughter.

Saying, no, no, she's, it looks like they've stabilized her and, and they're, they're going to let her go home.

“So there was, you know, there was that. But otherwise, a very peaceful weekend. Did you have a good one?”

I had a good one. I talked to my dad a couple of times and he was great. I mean, I'm seeing him. I'm flying back in Friday. Yeah. It's his 100th birthday on Saturday. Wow. And it's interesting because, you know, you, you look at, you look at people's cognitive abilities as a age, you look at dementia, and it's just, it's the, it's the, it's sometimes it's the most frustrating thing. And then sometimes it brings you joy and the last two times I called yesterday. And, and, and Saturday the last two times because I'll call occasionally my sister will say, no, it's not a good day.

Right. You know, he's just out of it. But I think it's Saturday. She said, you know, he's out of it because he sees things. Sure. He imagines things. Right. Yeah. And she was saying, I don't think so. She goes, but let me just try dad. You want to talk to Gary and yeah. And 99.9% perfect. And you just wonder what kicks in my sister, you know, both kicks. She's just said, we just know idea. It's that all that way with, you know, my mom and my mother and law are both at different levels in their dementia.

And so the manifestations are different. And with my mother and law, it is advanced. And, but her mind is so determined. She's always been strong minded.

I mean, I keep telling my wife, she's going to outlive us all because, you know, she, her mind is just so determined. But there are, there are those moments. So when we, she's in a great home. Great, great care facility in Oklahoma. They did the staff there. It's just top notch. It's, we're so happy and grateful. But there are moments when you, if we go there and take her out to lunch, and let's say you go to the restroom and come back, you know, she may not recognize you for a second. And then you can have moments of clarity.

I would, I can't say we have good days and bad days. I mean, I guess there are technically, in terms of a memory.

And there are other moments. Oh, you know, because anybody who knows, when you buy the end of the day, if they've been up all day, yes, that's, that's when that's the key.

“We have to do things in mid-morning until early afternoon, and then we're out of time.”

But it's a little bit joyful when my sister says, I just don't think so. And then I'll talk to my dad for 20 minutes, 25 minutes. Yeah, just perfect. And she'll come back. She goes, I don't know, you call. I say your name and all the sudden boom for some reason. It all comes together and he's, and he's fine. And she says, yeah, and then it makes her happy because then he's normal again for a couple of hours. That happened. And it's just, you know, you're just, you're, I'm happy that I can bring because my brother and sister are saints, you know, they're his full-time caretakers 24/7.

Yeah. And, and, you know, because I such a hard job. I know, and I don't know if he got out of bed yesterday. I don't, they wanted to, they wanted to. I don't know if they were really, you know, I didn't get any pictures yet. You know, or videos. And normally if he's out of bed, they'll do it if they get him to the table. But I know they hope to do it for his 100th. Yeah. But again, you don't know. We just don't, I have people, you know, that relatives are ready, ready to come over and see him. And I'm like, I can't tell you.

Well, and what we have found is with, with both my mother and my mother-in-law, too many people are too much stimulation, even with just siblings.

We recently had all the siblings under one roof, our entire family under one roof for the first time in a while. We took a picture.

But that day had some residual effects. It had some immediate effects, but residual effects. And my mom's the same way with me. There are things when she'll just, she's not, again, having a good day memory-wise and then all of a sudden, I show up. And then she just starts asking me about everything in my life. Remembers everybody's name.

“And everything. And so I think it's kind of like music. Sometimes a music will help people that have dementia.”

And I think sometimes it's a particular person, especially a son or daughter.

Dad always remembers you.

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And so there are a number of stories that are saying that he was confident that they could get the kernel out of their alive. But then you also look at the fortitude of someone who is severely wounded, the kernel. And was in this mountainous range in Iran, well-inside enemy territory. And he's able to somehow get up to 7,000 foot rich and get into a crevice and set off his beacon.

“And everything that it took to get him out of there, including a couple of key moments where it looked like they were stuck, was really just amazing.”

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“It was, I think, Eric, it was a former SENCOM commander, retired general Frank McKenzie.”

And this is a quote from over the weekend. It takes a year to build an aircraft. And 200 years to build a military tradition where you don't leave anybody behind. End of quote. It's a great quote.

That's a great quote. You know, that's, I think about the rescue. Well, first, my gosh. But there are so many things to talk about just with the rescue and what's going on in a ran. Right now, we probably could talk for, I don't know, a week on it.

Yeah.

But the, the one thing where I went, whoa, when the first report came out that, you know,

they had, they had destroyed a C 130. Apparently there's two C 130s and two helicopters. Right. Right. And I went, what are you talking about?

You're 200 miles inside of a ran. What, what are you talking about? How, how could you destroy a C 130? It means you had to have a landing strip. You're telling me they built a, yeah.

“And that's what you could see it on social media.”

Anybody who's paying attention went and knows what a C 130 is going to tell they talking about it. They built a, a makeshift airfield. And they did. They did.

And they had to destroy because they, the, the nose got stuck. And so you can't leave any of that behind. No. Uh, it's.

But, but they, they had, the second, they had the second option.

They were ready for. Yeah. Yes. It, it just, that, what, what happened was from, from everything to, you know, how the, the, the, the, the colonel, you know, apparently climbed quite a bit to get up to that crevice.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. Which was incredible. He, now, I heard, it wasn't specific. He could hear Americans looking for him. Does that mean he heard helicopters or he actually, right?

Yeah. Special forces on the ground. Right. But this was hundreds. Hundreds of.

Service people involved in this probably thousands, if you talk about everybody back home. In the military in the Pentagon.

And this, the, the CIA.

“I mean, everything was so well, well coordinated here.”

You know, I, you and I both when Hague Seth first became, uh, defense secretary.

You know, questioned him. He was still wrong. What he did with signal. Yeah. He was wrong.

Right. And I'm telling you, you have, the, the, the multi-faceted. Operation that this was. To extract a rescue. This Air Force Colonel.

Mind boggling absolutely mind boggling. I'll, I'll tell you and, and, and maybe it's a shame on me moment. But when it was reported that one Airman had not been rescued yet early on. I, I lacked confidence. And I, because I thought, well, if Iranians are quick about it and, and, and they were there.

There was a bounty on this Colonel. Uh, then it's, it's not going to go well. I prayed that it would and when we heard the story at the, by the end of the weekend, we heard the story of how they got them out of there. But again, you know, building that, that makeshift air strip.

“If you, if you think what, which means you had to have, what kind of equipment to build that?”

I've got, I mean, this, this story is still yet to be completely told. Uh, I know the president is going to have, uh, a, a presser, uh, later today, one PM Eastern, uh, to White House. He's going to talk about this, uh, a little more. I don't know if we're going to learn the identity of the pilot, the pilot was taken to Kuwait. Uh, and I think there is, again, so much to learn in order, what, what has to happen here,

or, or, or the benefit of this as, as we learn as citizens is to instill the confidence of the American people in our ability to accomplish missions. Things are not going to go our way every day or on every mission. That's just the case in war. But if you look at this, because I think about what they wanted to do to extract the image of uranium. And they had, there, there are, there are two storage areas for that, those uranium tanks.

And this idea would be that they were considering, as sending boots on the ground to go in and you would have to create. You would have to create a makeshift landing field, which they were able to do here. Uh, you would have to bring in equipment, trucks, uh, large equipment in order to handle these tanks. They're in two different sites. So it's not just one site.

It's a very different mission than getting, then, then, then they're rescuing this kernel here. But it, it instills greater confidence that something like that is definitely possible.

One of the message messages that was sent basically to Iran is, we are fully capable of controlling this.

Part of this was a CIA, a CIA information campaign, where they went in, basically, to their sources inside Iran. And put the word out that they already had rescued the kernel, and that they were already on their way out of the country that it was already done. Don't bother looking for him. He called off the bounty. Well, actually, well, actually, no, what they, what they, what they said was,

he's been rescued, and there's a convoy moving out from a different part of the country on the land. No, that's what I meant. Right, they're getting, they were leaving the country. Yes, right, but they, yeah, so go after them there. Oh, they, I guess the most direction that message, the right, the mystery was sending him in sending them in in other places.

Right.

“Also, I think, I think there may have been multiple other places in that regard.”

So they were sending different messages out, basically, misinformation messages that were going out.

But they were, it was calling off the, the point was there's no point in searching for him there because he's already in his convoy. And it's on its way out over here. Now, of course, you do that with building. You've got that CIA asset who clearly inside Iran is trusted within what's left of the regime. And in order for them to believe that, hey, the Colonel's in part of a convoy, and it's headed out here in this part of Iran, or he's heading out toward this border or whatever it might be.

The pilot was.

“So when you think about what you have to convince other people of in just the misinformation campaign,”

that has to be a big deal. There's no doubt there has been, and you and I have talked about it. There's a lot of propaganda propaganda is necessary and more. You have to keep the enemy guessing. You have to throw them off at times.

One of the, the nature of this particular president you and I have been talking about it since his first term is that with this particular president, he's highly unpredictable.

Domestically, he's highly unpredictable. And in war, if you're one of our enemies, then you don't know what he's going to do. Well, I think the first thing when I saw yesterday when he was cursing in that truth social. Yeah, yeah. I went that isn't my first thought was that isn't for domestic consumption.

No, no. I think I thought of was because, you know, you and I said this when the war started. We're not really believing a ton of stuff that is coming out of the White House because we believe, you know, it's not for domestic consumption. Right.

“It's for it's to confuse Iranian leaders and Ari Flasher brought that up yesterday.”

We talked about Hugh Hewitt doing an interview with Trump back in 2015. And they were really, they were really surprised how passionate the president, he wasn't president yet. But I'll passionate he was about the fact that our enemies, when we're war not at war,

should never have any idea what the mindset of the president is.

Right. When you look at that and we you saw how the media, you know, jumped on it, which with one of the best ones I saw was he's calling them all these names. And this is just great. It's beneath the president.

It's reprehensible and the response from Republicans were. You've called him a Nazi and Hitler and a traitor. Right. He's president of the United States. Right.

Sit this one out. Yeah. Look in it as I was not looking at that because you have I have seen. In Venezuela and now here. And even in in in in Gaza.

I've seen a very very disciplined president as if. Okay, domestic politics is one thing. We'll go off on these people. But when it comes to war. He has been extremely.

Extremely disciplined has made incredibly great decisions. And so when I saw that yesterday the first thing I thought was. This information began to for the movies consumption. Yeah. He doesn't want them to know.

Right. He's focusing and and I think part of it when you saw the other day and this. This has been you know lost in the the the fog of everything going on over the last couple of days. But they took out another 50 senior leaders that they got all together in one place. Right.

Right. I think the president says something or the Pentagon says something or eggs says something and they look and they go. Okay. Where are these people scattering? I think that what you have seen here is incredible cooperation.

Between the CIA and the Pentagon. Yeah. And that goes to who the president appointed to those positions.

Like I said we've been critical of eggs set especially you know with the signal thing.

“But the fact is since that point the operations that he's and when it comes down to it that's what I care about the most.”

I care about these things working I care about the rescue working because not only did we rescue the kernel. Not only did you give an incredible morale boost to anybody who serves right now in this country. Yeah. Because you've just proven the point. We're not going to leave anybody behind.

We're not going to do it. We've always got your back no matter what. That's unnecessary to have a successful volunteer military. Absolutely necessary to have. Yep. And so but how they did it the cooperation.

The propaganda from the CIA the you know for the misdirection. The building of a makeshift airfield.

Every article I've read I go I've got to have more I don't have enough give me more I want to.

“You know me too. This isn't enough me too. I want to learn a lot more about this mission.”

We are Red Eye Radio. We'll be right back with more Red Eye Radio with every currently and Gary McNamara. We are Red Eye Radio. He is our currently and I'm Gary McNamara. Can chuckle about it now but it had to be a serious moment.

One of the first message that apparently the the military the brass heard from the Colonel was a message saying God is good.

And so they didn't believe at first they were not sure if it was him or not. Well it sounds like a lot who Akbar which translates into God is great. And they were they thought is this a trap. Our ranians trying to bring you know by the way as the as the rescuers you had over a hundred of these specialists that were on the ground.

“They actually got into battles you know they weren't big battles with a couple of the tribes in that region.”

And so the question was could this be a trap and they didn't trust that message at first. How could he our news is brought you by how products is that how products dot com.

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Sure the dumbest take this one this might have to go to the top of the list. And she was on with Scott Jennings.

This is former Obama State Department advisor.

Neera Hack. All right. Okay. Here she is talking about. How on social media.

Yes. You know the United States is is winning because of you know all of the. You know the United States believes they're winning because so many of the top leadership of Iran has been killed. But on the other side, the Iranians are successfully using propaganda because there are some military generals that have been let go of their job in the United States. You know you're looking at me. Here we go. You're ready.

All right. Here it is. Okay. There's some more and Internet propaganda which is something actually the Iranians have been known for and influencing. And so they had you know for all of our talk on our side of all the people killed in the regime. They have been pushing out through multiple channels around the world images of the American army generals and military people who have also lost their jobs at this time. So the again the the way this looks out in the public is not a United States that is locked and loaded and working in one direction.

I think the Iranians would rather have their entire Navy back or their means. Oh, I think when we're talking about destroyed 13 thousand. And this is a problem that the White House faces every day.

“And that's why the president should not give anybody a clue as to what he is doing at all.”

But there was ruining. You can see it on social media. That you know that you know the the plane being shot down shows the failure of the war. We live in a time of social media war. Any mistake by the United States means we're losing the war. Right.

The Iranians desperately now I haven't seen it anywhere on social media. I don't know where she's getting it. But her argument that because there are some military people that had been fired that the world does not see that the United States is basically winning this and accomplishing the military goals that they wish to accomplish because the world.

Any and every movement that is you're I mean you're reaching.

You're reaching beyond reaching. Well, by the way, the one general that was fired was really not involved in this war. Right. Right. So all that right there. Yeah, but that's and so it was you know well and there was a lot of that you know going back and forth the the source story that had set was paranoid that.

“That that general was going to be named the next the secretary defense secretary of war and so that's why he fired him and I thought well that story doesn't even make sense.”

The Trump wanted that general to be secretary of defense. He would make it happen and if he said did that knowing that the president was going to make him the next secretary of defense. But it would accelerate. It's not of it made sense. And so you see all those sort of stories. And then a couple of GO peers on Capitol Hill. We're going to look into the firing of this general and it's like. Okay, that that fine. They had said early on. We have too many generals.

“We have too many. I don't know if you want to say cooks in the kitchen, but certainly at the Pentagon they believe they had way too many generals.”

My first thought when when I heard it was was in order to get the American military and the wonus and the liberal mindset that existed in the military.

You had to have some generals agreed to that. And whatever in order to do what happened in the military, which is one of the reasons that Hague said wanted to get in. This was where I completely agreed with what Hague said was talking about when he first got in was. This is the military is about killing people.

“It's about winning wars. It's about destruction of our enemies. That's it. It's not an experiment in DEI.”

No, that's not a job's program either. And so for the military to get to the point of where it did under Biden after Obama and then and then Trump and then Biden. In order for the military, it's just like how the rot got into the FBI. The rot got into our intelligence agencies with Brennan and Colmy and Clapper. There's rot. There may be still a lot of rot inside of there, but Hague says job in the Pentagon was to get it out.

And that was my first thought. I've always wondered whether enough of the military command that wasn't about military that decided I'm going to play along in order to get along.

Right or I agree that the military is about the military is about DEI and making sure that there's equity and diversity and inclusion. Well, which means racism towards white people. Right. We all know. Right. That's where it all came from. You know, because it reminds me of, it reminds me of of how Republicans have started to lean, you know, the farther and farther toward the left and basically go along with changing the language of everything. The media we talked about how even. The Fox News, you know, sometimes on some of the stories they're using the language of the left and it's like, well, well, well, new language sitting down with Nancy.

You know, get get with your elected officials on climate change. It reminds me of that because you look in the military and there has been criticism by those some in the military.

Well, and that's where again, when they decided to call it the Department of War, even though some of the things that they have done, I'm going, okay, it's symbolism is, you know, stop it.

“You're trying to appease your base to me that actually made sense. You need to get back to the focus of why the military exists.”

You can't pretend that it exists for another reason. You've got to be straight with the American people. You've got to be straight. And this is what our military. They already know it. But it's to it the reality is it's to defeat our enemy and how you do defeat the enemy. It means you have an infrastructure and a group of of people and leadership that's only goal is to kill the enemy.

Yeah, that's the very, it sounds terrible. Well, what the hell you think the military is?

I mean, what's terrible is pretending that it's something that it isn't.

“Well, and that's it. Is that. And I think that was, and by the way, I'm going to make sure.”

The people that decide to take that responsibility, I honor. I'm not insulting the people to do that. I'm just, well, this is, in fact, they should be honored because somebody has to do it to keep us safe. Well, exactly. And, and if there are, if there is a tone that is being followed or orders that are being followed, I'm not going to criticize those who are following orders, but when you're talking about the top brass who are giving the orders. Go along with this new, I don't, trying to bring the DEI thing into the military, which, by the way, has been going on for a period of years long before we were really talking about DEI.

And many saw the concerns with that. What you need is a fit and ready, military on all levels. And it starts with the humans, it also starts with the, with the, with the ranket file, but it also starts with the brass who's going to be making the toughest of decisions that has to be making the decisions based on the war, not, hey, do we have enough of this group or that group in the field being represented. And there is no place for that. There isn't a place for that. I'd say one thing he did, just the last couple of days, by the way, there wasn't any outrage at all, where he told the soldiers, you're on bashing, carry your gun.

Yeah, right, right, you know why that's good. You send the message, we trust you.

Yes, that message of we trust you and the message will never leave you behind.

“Right, right, I think it's critical for the military. I don't know whether this, the general who was fired was because of DEI or woke or whatever.”

Right, I said the thought process is the first thing I think of at something headset wanted gone. He was absolutely right in wanting that. And is he still finding it and is that a reason that the general's gone? I don't know if that was the specific reason, but in order to get to the wokeness that existed in the military by the time we got out of the Biden administration. That means that a lot of the people higher up had it would agree to it. Yeah, you just heard the state, the former state department person for Obama. Right, that was a state department advisor. She's got no business just that opinion trying to sit there and say that, you know, the Iranians are winning the propaganda war.

Because yeah, the Americans are saying, look, we've killed so many levels of leadership, but then they respond, yes, but you've fired a couple of generals. Which shows you're not focused on the Iran war and so people look at that as some type of. Not moral equivalency, but some type of military equivalency, which is the most bizarre. I mean, who's buying that BS? Well, and that's what it comes down to. You know, the military mindset, it takes to be effective in the military and to be a leader in the military.

And it's not a job's program. And it's not a job's program that promotes DEI. If you are fit and able, there's a reason, all of us guys who are older, once you're past a certain age, sorry, you're not going to serve. You can't get, you can't join. You can keep serving, but if you've already gotten it. But once you've reached that certain age, sorry, you got to be fit and ready. So Uncle Sam doesn't want me. He wants you. He wants you to stay home and be safe and allow his military to protect you.

They're, they're there to protect people like me. That's right. The helpless and elderly, you know, that's, honestly, it really, it doesn't. You know, it's, it's, for those of us, well, they are, it's capable of serving.

“That's why they exist, though, the strongest, absolutely right. They're there to protect the top, that's what we should expect of them.”

I mean, should always be there to protect the elderly, like to help.

Right. And, and that's why I'm donating my care of check and my doge check to chair. To give back. I'm grateful. But no, I mean, what a great, what a great rescue that is. What a great moral booster. Well, to the military, what a great operation the Pentagon put on.

Uh, you know, and, and all those, all the soldiers involved, short period of time. Wow. Being prepared. And by the way, you heard the discipline, the White House Pentagon said nothing. Yeah, right.

Because they didn't want, they didn't want the enemy to know we got one and didn't get the other yet.

Right. Yeah. Right.

“So that didn't get out for a while, because they didn't want it to get out.”

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I'm Gary McNamara. All right, here we have an audio from a general Frank McKenzie retired, a former head of Sencom.

And here's what he had to say on face-sonation yesterday about what he views

as the status of the war right now from a military perspective. If they have the ability to inflict damage, they do not have the ability to gain mass effects. And by mass effects, I mean firing many, many dozens of rockets, missiles, or drones.

“I think that capability has been eroded steadily since this campaign began.”

And frankly, at about plus 30 days into this campaign, I think if you're at Central Command, you've got to be reasonably satisfied with where you are right now. In fact, Ed, when I was the Sencom commander, if you'd given me this situation at plus 30 days, I would have rejected it and being too optimistic by far. You know, I think those are those points are so great,

because you think about the mission to rescue the downpilot of that F-15E. Some of the resources drawn away from the war were actually assigned. They were on a mission to take out other missile sites in Iran. And so that that mission paused. And so Iran kind of had a little more ability.

But you shouldn't mistake that and it goes back to your point about how the media,

the liberal activist media, any little thing that happens, all of a sudden, is a turning point in the war. And I've seen that far too often, especially in the last week or so, it just seems to be ramping up. And of course, that is not the case.

Once you learn the entire story, you'd learn the equation. But we do have the upper hand over a ran.

“And I think the mission to rescue that pilot that far inside enemy territory”

and how it was carried out should be an example as to how capable our military is. And I think that's really what, you know, the overall picture if you're looking at it. And you understand it.

It's just, it's impressive.

But it's reassuring to me as a citizen. It's like when we want a basketball game of 123 to 3-1 time. And I can imagine the commentator saying, "Yeah, but you gave up that three pointer." Yeah. How could you get this week to some of the defense that they could be coming back here?

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Well, there was a short celebration of the Bureau of Labor Statistics Employment Report on Friday. Yeah. Better than expected overall numbers. Right. What you're seeing though is a wide, you know, you had, you saw last month that it went up from,

from, was it, 81,000 or 71,000 lost jobs to 133,000. Right.

So you basically had, this was 178,000 increase.

So you had 45,000 jobs created over the last two months, which is roughly 22.5,000 jobs a month, which is nothing for the economy. When you look at the last six months, it's flat when you look at the last 10 months, really since, Tara started last year, about 15 to 20,000 a month.

Yeah. That's nothing. Right. You know, when it comes to job creation in the United States. So take it, you know, take it that it was a good month.

We do not look at months whether they're good or bad. We don't jump on it because we know when you, when you look at, you know, long term, you look over the last six months over the last year. That's how you should look at anything.

“I think economically in an economy is huge in diverse as we are.”

Yeah. But the total non farm payroll employment increased by 178,000 in March. By the way, I'm reading this right from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. So if you believe you hear some bias in there, we'll be the bias of the administration.

And I mean, if you take it as that we're viewing this as negative on it, it's coming from them, not us. Total non farm payroll employment increased by 170,000 in March, following a decrease in February of 133,000 in March. Job gains occurred in healthcare in construction, which, by the way, is good.

That's a, that's a note that I'm looking at healthcare, as we know, is so much, so much of healthcare is judged by government spending. Yeah. Construction, some of it can be government spending. But as we know right now, a lot of it is not in government spending, which is good.

But healthcare in construction, transportation, and warehousing. Now, this is a great point, federal government employment, continued to decline payroll employment, had changed little on the net over the prior 12 months. Health care added 76,000 jobs. Part of that increase was because there was a strike.

And workers returned from a strike. Yeah, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics, employment also increased in hospitals, 15,000. The vast majority of the job gains were in healthcare, by the way. Over the past 12 months, healthcare has added an average of 29,000 jobs per month.

Employment and construction grew by 26,000 in March,

In March, transportation and warehousing added 21,000 jobs, reflecting again in couriers and messengers.

Wow. It's interesting, isn't it?

“Yeah, I need a message delivered, I need a courier.”

Interesting. Employment and transportation and warehousing is down by 139,000 since reaching its peak in February of last year.

So even though it went up, it's way beneath where it was a year ago.

Employment and social assistance continued. It's upward trend in March, 14,000, primarily an individual and family services. And again, that's government related.

“Federal government employment continued to decline minus 18,000 in March since reaching its peak in October of 2024.”

Federal government employment is down by 100, and excuse me, is down by 355,000 or 11.8%. Federal employees on furlough during the partial government shutdown were counted as employed in the establishment survey, because they worked to receive or will receive pay for the pay period that included the 12th of the month. Employment and financial activities down 15,000 in March reflecting a loss in finance and insurance minus 16,000. Employment and financial activities is down by 77,000 since reaching its peak in May of 2025.

Employment showed little change over the month in other major industries, including mining,

“quarrying, oil and gas extraction, manufacturing, wholesale trade, retail trade,”

information, professional or business services, leisure and hospitality and other services. Which shows manufacturing, though, if it did, if that state relatively steady means still manufacturing losses since the terror started down 75 to 80,000. Yeah, manufacturing jobs. So that's where we are, but it was, it was a good month. You know, there is a demand, a greater demand for couriers driven by greater e-commerce.

And in fact, I was just looking at some stats because I'm curious about this growth. And they look like, it looks like, you know, by 2035, it's going to increase greatly the demand. And I also wonder, okay, if you're looking at that, if you're a company like a FedEx, the FedEx is really the benchmark, right, in terms of companies delivering documents. But couriers, you think of as the local deliveries.

And I don't know how much FedEx of their business is based on that local demand. But it is interesting that in an age where documents have become electronic, that they're still an increase in this courier demand. So, but now, food delivery is part of the courier category. So I don't know how much of that is based on things like door dash,

grab hop and other food delivery services. The employment numbers looked okay. One of the reasons, though, is 155,000 more people have given up looking for work, which is now over half a million.

So that help keep the unemployment rate from going up too much. Yeah, but that's not a good thing if you're, if so, I mean, this is where you look at figures and you go, okay, all right, unemployment state, okay, but what drives unemployment numbers. Some things are great to drive unemployment numbers, like people getting jobs, but also people giving up in the workforce are not counted as unemployed anymore. Right. Yeah. And that's where you get it. But all the figures I gave you were from the establishment survey data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics from the Trump's Labor Department.

Right. So people know where the numbers come from, because I know I don't believe any of these numbers coming from the administration. But so, good month there, again, heavily driven, not by the private sector, but by government spending probably on health care.

But there's a challenge.

“And probably driven, I mean, look at the courier category. Let's assume some of that, what we have to assume, in fact, some of that is food delivery service, which is a gig job, right?”

So that is an additional job for a person and part time. Actually, I have a family member who's delivering in one town. It's a smaller town, but he's delivering for all of them.

And you do hear this, maybe one person in the household, he lives alone. But one person in the household is doing, you know, delivering for Walmart, which they call sparkle, then Amazon also delivering food and anything and everything throughout the day to maximize profits. My family members actually doing pretty well. It paid more than it's full-time job. So he quit that full-time job. But he's in a unique position of being, again, somebody who is available during all hours in a small town. So that may, I don't know how long that will last, but we are more and more, you know, after COVID, we quit utilizing enduring with everything in terms of pricing.

There has been a trend of not ordering food delivery because it's, it's too expensive, eating out in general. But if they become, if those food delivery services and restaurants within them become more competitive, you could see where that demand is going to grow. Certainly will grow when the economy is back and pricing, I won't say it's remedied, but you have a growing wage market, which, again, we haven't seen in big ways, it's not outpacing right now, but eventually it will. So as the Wall Street Journal wrote about the federal jobs being cut 18,000, no one likes to see anyone lose a job, but it's clear the government workforce has been bloated and needs to shrink the federal payroll climbed by 126,000 during the Biden administration.

The federal roles do not create wealth, providing security aside, most are focused on redistributing income or telling Americans what they can or cannot do, right?

“The Labor Department is not broken out where the federal job cuts have taken place yet, but anecdotal evidence suggests they've been across most of the government with the main exception being in the immigration law enforcement and security agencies.”

And what's striking political fact is how little these workers have been missed by the public. No doubt these employees believe they were doing useful work, but there has been little to no outcry about the decline in services. The size of the government continues to rise, owing to welfare and entitlement payments, but at least the payroll is being paired. I'm going to tell you this, though, when I found my taxes, you know how they, you know, you'll be accepted in the next 48 hours less than an hour later on a Sunday.

Yeah, is that part of the automation now?

Yeah, yeah, I've never been accepted so quickly.

Yeah, now I took him a couple days to take my check. I'll say this because I don't know because because I'm collecting so security now, and I didn't collect so security in all the 70. So I couldn't figure out if I paid more taxes or less, based on my earnings, I didn't get into that yet. But overall, I paid a less percentage. Okay.

Then I did last year. Your rate was lower. My rate was lower. Okay.

“But remember, part of so security is in tax.”

Right.

Well, that's always a good thing to bring the rate down.

Yeah. Yeah, so my rate was down three percentage points. Yeah. That's good, though. Right.

And remember, last time Republicans were in power, my taxes went up. Yeah. I blame Ted Cruz, I don't know why it doesn't make sense, I don't have a reason for it. Blamer and Paul. Okay.

Him too. No, it's, yeah, when they went to cut taxes, our taxes went up. Yeah. I'm still not doing my taxes on a postcard. No, I don't think it's ever going to.

Nobody talks about that anymore. Do they? No. You don't know that at all anymore. You can do your taxes on a postcard.

Nope. Nope.

“But again, you know, that's, you and I look at the, at the big picture here.”

And what has to happen is we have to have an expanding economy again.

And a big way that to really start driving earnings up and expanding economy will do that. Even if we hit a target point at any point of 2% on inflation, prices are still going to go up. The average of 2% a year. And that's the best case scenario. So, yeah, we need to expand the economy.

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Of course, after the rescue, anybody who's watched the movie with Owen Wilson and Gene Hackman behind enemy lines. Great. You know, we related to that.

“The only thing, the only thing that I object, it was a great action movie.”

Yeah. The only thing in that movie, and he was a Navy pilot. And this was over what Bosnia. I think you could slot the former Yugoslavia that he was that he was shot down. And remember, it was NATO who said the United States could not go in and rescue him.

That was the part of the movie I went.

That is such a load of horse manure.

Yeah. I'm like, I guess you had him, you know, it's like, hey, they were attacking. That was a 2001 movie. We were attacking NATO way back then. Right.

He said, no, you cannot go in. This is part of a NATO force. And NATO will not allow you to go in and get your pilot. And Gene Hackman did anyway. Right. Yeah.

And then lost his commission because of it. Right. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

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