04-09-26 Part One - Enforcing a Ceasefire

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your day, welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Another interesting day you would say. I would say, in fact, it doesn't stop, you know. And doing what we do, it is non-stop. You used to have like a period of time during the day where you could do other things, but if you really want to be in this in what we do, the stories are non-stop.

So they're just coming at you. I'm grateful I set it up on my phone to have notifications come.

But the problem is it looks like we've talked about this before. Like if you're sitting there,

if I'm at dinner or something with my lovely wife, I'm sitting there and I'm looking at my phone. I'm not scrolling social media. I'm doing show prep. Now, there may be something I see on social media that relates to the show prep, but you're working. And so my grandson, my youngest, number eight, that just turned seven the other day, said, you know, he walked in one time and I was sitting there and I was in the home office and he says,

"So what are you doing?" I said, well, I'm working because, well, it just looks like you're on your phone. [laughter]

So, I explained to him, I said, well, let me show you some of the things that I read and I can't explain everything to you,

but I'm just going to say the words national debt and also you, my great, my youngest grandson, are going to have to pay for it all. But yeah, it's, I'm reading about how you have no chance. And so let me introduce you to Greta. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We've got an arranged marriage there.

I'm going to be that kind of liberal parent that tells you, don't even worry about college. The world's not going to be around. You know, somebody was counting down Greta Thumbberg's prediction. And it's like, there's only a year and a half or two years left, because the world's going to be gone. It's like, my gosh, that's right. She's been around that long.

Right, where it's like, and you and I remember, I don't know if it was Greta Thumbberg, but there were a bunch of, you know, in brainwashed environmental kids at the White House. Yeah. Was it during was it Biden?

“I think it was Biden. Was it during Biden?”

Yeah. And they were talking about the fact somebody asked, well, what about college and they were like, well, we're not going to be around by that. We're all be dead. Yeah. And it's like, my God, these adults actually brainwashed these kids and throw these things at them. And they feel no guilt in doing it at all, none. Yeah, that's where the fault lies with the adults who, again, we talked about this through indoctrination.

That's more than indoctrination. That's borderline abuse. If you're putting children in a state of mind that they believe they honestly believe the world is not going to be here. They have no point in going to college. By the way, it's also why I didn't go to college, but it was a different thought of the world's not going to be around.

It wasn't global warming. It was something else. We were still in the cold war.

“But it's, it is this mindset that they have created through this indoctrination that I believe is abusive in nature and has these children living in fear.”

If you think about the anger on the far left, the radicals that are out there on the far left and how angry they are, much of that anger is driven by fear. Now, they help to drive that fear even further with their as activists, but adults instilled that fear into their mind at an early age. And that's, again, as they become adults, they have to take their own responsibility for whatever they do or say.

I mean, other than Bruce Springsteen is going to play a concert. What greater fear is there stealing from the Babylon be on that one.

But it's, well, can't believe I'm still seeing some people by records. But it's the, it is that indoctrination that had to go to that level of instilling fear. And that's where that comes from. And they're angry and, you know, said about a number of them. I don't think they've ever experienced joy to joy. I told my wife the other day.

“We were watching a video that had a young toddler in it. I think the toddler is probably somewhere around too.”

And I said, you know, toddlers, young children are capable of, you know, the worst fear because they don't know what's going on in the world. Right. If a parent isn't around, it could be the worst fear. Oh, my gosh, you know, what's happening if they don't recognize the situation, because they haven't learned things yet. But also they are capable of the greatest joy that child like joy and that laughter is pure when you hear it. And I think about the latter, not the former most often, because hearing a baby's laughter is great. And at some point, it quite often has to be spoiled by an adult or group of adults with an agenda.

And that's tragic. There are many things in life that you can't control. Those are some of the things we can control.

“Well, I look, I've always saw this and even before I heard, you know, clinical psychologists talk about, you know, why are people when you look at a trait of what makes people happy.”

You know, what is the one thing about happy people? They're grateful. Yeah. They're grateful that they're healthy. They're grateful that they have opportunity. They're not, they're not looking. They're not involved. For example, in a pathology of I'm a victim and I have no hope. You can't be grateful if you've been brainwashed that there is no future for you. You might as well be dead because there's no future. Brainwashed somebody like that. It's impossible for them to be grateful. You know, you and I talk about this on the air. We talk about it off the air. How grateful we are for all the experience that that we have had.

And you look at it and you say, well, it's not all been that the glass is full. No. All of our experiences are not based on the glass is full. There's a ton of stuff with the glasses and even half full. It's at the bottom. But it doesn't change. And I know that I've gotten this from many people who know me. And a couple women I know have actually told me they said, you know, something.

I've never seen you said, you know, or I've never seen you, you know, I've never seen you anything but happy. Now, yeah, I'll get angry at points.

“If you listen to the show, you've seen I've got angry at points, but it's it's passionate about, you know, a particular issue where I believe maybe somebody doesn't have a clue.”

It's frustration. It's not fear that's driving the right. Right. It's not it's not victimhood. Right. It's it's not fear. It's it's frustration. A sense of, you know, of, you know, what's right and and and wrong, but that doesn't stay a long time. And we get we get the response, you know, our listeners are great audience tells us. They say, you know, best thing about you guys to get angry at one point and five minutes later, you know, five minutes later, a minute later, you're laughing about something else.

And it's like, yeah, we're passionate about what we do, but we've set it before we don't get it anymore. But when, you know, I will say the significant period of my talk radio career, you know, you'd get those people saying, you're too happy. Things are too serious.

And our response has always been, I've got one life. Nobody's taking my joy away from me.

Look, there's there are things that I can't control in life, but I'm not going to let these people, whoever's in office. I'm not going to let them steal my joy. They're already taking my money in taxes. I'm trying to change that legally, but there are things I can't control. The one thing I can control is them trying to steal my joy, and that's never going to happen. But I think it's the, you know, it's what my girlfriend found out when he went and, you know, when he dirty jobs.

And he was like, you would think, I never forget it was the one guy you'd like cleaned out.

So it's saying the same, yes. Yeah. And I think that was the episode. And he just said, I'm amazed by people that do the dirtiest jobs, and they feel completely and totally fulfilled in their life. They're content, they're happy, they're doing something that they know has to be done.

And they're the people, you know, that, that, that, that, that do it. Yeah.

“And I think it gets to the basic mindset.”

I know that I was always, I was always a little bit surprised when, you know, you'd find actors who say, Hollywood people say, I hated ever job I ever had until I had this. I never hated any job except being a wedding DJ. But that wasn't, but that wasn't, that wasn't the job itself. It was my boss hung me out to dry.

If you ever had, it never had a bride's mother come up to you and say, this is before. Yeah. You know, we have laptops. Yeah. And the laptops and you could just, you know, okay, I'm going to download it right now this song.

Yeah. And I can have it ready to play. Yeah. This is when the guy who ran the wedding DJ thing and, you know, they would sit there and say, okay, you've got to give us the 10 songs that you want because we need to get the records.

Right. And, and, and so I get ready to do it and, and, and he would leave me a note because everything was set up. I just show up and pay great money. I just show up.

He said everything out. I just did it went home. And, but I wasn't in control of, I had no editorial control over the content of the music. It's what he gave me. Uh, and I've come there and goes, yeah, they wanted 10 songs.

I could only find five.

And it'd be like the first dance for the bride.

I didn't have it. There are probably mothers of brides out there. Even though they've probably been divorced three or four times. Uh, that that are probably going that day at McNamara. He destroyed my daughters wedding because I actually had people were screaming at me because

I didn't have the songs that they want. So I didn't hate the job. I hated, well, I hated the guy who made it to the job properly. I couldn't relate. I wasn't hired.

I was borrowed. Uh, because everybody believes if you're in radio that you automatically can DJ wedding and family members are included in, for a couple of family members. In one case it went splendidly. In another case there was only one moment.

And I had a laptop. And it was great. It was awesome. So I could download anything and everything they wanted, whatever they wanted. But it was, okay, let's just put some, you know, in one case.

Let's just put some, uh, dance music on or, or, you know, something casual while everybody's or whatever it is. And, um, the bride herself approached me and said, in whispered, "Turn this blankety blanket off."

And so, uh, now to be fair, it was Metallica's first album.

And, and I thought, you know, Kilimal probably wasn't a dinner worthy, probably not thinking about it. But no, it was very, very quickly. I did a heavy metal wedding. Yeah. And I went in there.

“And they said, "Here's what you need to play."”

And I said, "I actually told the bride and groom." No. Yeah. And I told them, I said, "This is, you've got to please the people that are giving you a tremendous number of gifts, including a ton of cash." Right.

You know, we can do this later when it's time to, but they wanted real heavy metal at the beginning. I'm like, "No." Right. They thanked me afterwards. Yeah.

They said, "Okay, that was the right thing to do. We're sorry." Uh, because we had an agreement of what to do in the beginning that, that, that, that, that, the, the owner of the, the wedding, you know, sound system, wedding company had decided to, you know, to do. And I said, "And they wanted to change it." And I said, "No, we, we can't, you can't do that."

And they agreed with me afterwards. But, but, I guess the point is, because it's not about being a way to change the way. But people might be interested in it. Would you be interested, though? Oh, I don't mean that.

Oh, I don't mean that. But it was, it was a very kind approach like, hey, let's change the music a little bit. But the, my, whatever my original point was. No, it was of hating that. I never hated a job.

I felt grateful just to have the opportunity. All I ever wanted, all I ever wanted in life was to take opportunity and be free to do it. I knew there was going to be ups and downs.

“And I think that, the, I think that when you set out, and I saw Ted Cruz in an interview yesterday saying,”

"Yeah, everything with the left is victim and oppressor. Everything. You know how it states as your oppressor Iran is the victim. Try to even make that point that some people actually believe that, which is ridiculous.

You can't make it in life.

You know, Bernie Sanders has, you know, he's got three houses because of it. You know, he used the capitalist system to talk about how great socialism is and write his books. Right. And he's the one that, you know, we talked about, you know, we said, it's unconscionable that somebody would tell young people, you can't make it.

Right. You can't make it because billionaires exist. Right. It's an absolute lie. Mm-hmm.

billionaires have no absolutely no. And by the way, I may sound like John Taffer here because I know Taffer would say the same thing from bar rescue. Who's, and my father told me, long time ago, he said, doesn't matter who's in office. Right.

“Doesn't you, if you want to fight for the right thing, fight for the right thing in politics,”

but who's in office has no influence on whether you make it a success or not.

It's too big of a society that we live in. You control whether you make it or not as long as you stay healthy. Well, there are some things that, you know, that that you can't help because if you stay healthy, you are the determiner of whether you make it or not. And once you know that embrace it, there's a tremendous amount of being grateful for what you have in life,

which are the simple things I'm healthy and I have opportunity. Well, it's showing up means that you're going to be there for any opportunity that presents itself. Jonathan Winner has had a great saying. If your ship doesn't come in, swim out to meet it. Pretty simple.

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We'll be right back with more Red Eye Radio, with every currently and Gary McNamara. Here on our radio, he's here. I'm Gary McNamara coming up front in the bottom of the hour. So much to discuss on the ceasefire number one, the specific subject.

“I think it was Noah Rothman in the National Review that talked about the fact”

that actually the only on the ceasefire agreement, the only country that's moved is Iran. The US has not given up anything. As they're right here, they say, safe for America's acceptance of the 15 day ceasefire over proposed 30 day pause

in the fighting Washington's demand on Iran or the same as they were two weeks ago. Iran by contrast evolved two weeks ago. It sought a permanent ceasefire, a non-aggression agreement ratified by Congress and reparations for the damage it absorbed during the war.

Iran's position is shifted. America and Israel's did not. And why should it have? And talks about the fact that the -- and I agree with this, the message should be sent to anybody you're negotiating with.

The only reason you're alive right now to negotiate is because we've allowed it. Yeah. If this negotiation doesn't happen, how do you put that message through your dad?

Right. Now, what is the biggest thing here when it comes -- there's two points. There's the actual ceasefire and what you're going to do to get an agreement and what is acceptable.

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You can listen when you choose. All right. This is one of those days where it's like, I don't even know where to start. So let's get right in.

The entire ceasefire agreement. There's two things. The actual substance of what we will eventually get. Which we don't know. I mean, there's a ton of stuff going on.

But let's start with the politics here in the United States. Because that's has to be your major goal now. You've got to sell to the American public that it was worth doing it. And that there are specific things that you lay out that show that you are victorious. And again, you could look at it and you can talk about the military damage.

Without question. You have degraded a random ability to be a nuclear threat or be a threat to the world for the next decade. Yeah. You've done that.

“You need to repeat that over and over and over and over and over again.”

You can. One of the things and you and I were discussing this. I guess we're going to just combine it all together. Because it all intermixes. And it was where we, you and I both read the article from Andrew McCarthy.

And I know Ari Fleischer was saying what we said the other day that what we said yesterday, which was, you know, Trump using all that language and destroying the civilization. He was talking to the, what's left of the Iranian regime. Yeah, the quote from Ari Fleischer is it was tough talk, but it was fluent in Farsi. Right.

The language they understand in Iran. Right.

And we had said that yesterday because that's the first thought that we had in it.

And I don't know if he was responding to it or not. But Andrew McCarthy wrote a column yesterday in National Review where he was, you know, saying you can't use, you know, basically madman techniques to talk to. Yeah, madman theory doesn't work against other madmen. And you and I would disagree with it.

Yes, it does. If you back it up. And that's what we said yesterday. If you back it up. If you've killed two or three layers of, you know,

you, you killed the all the leaders of the regime. And then this, the second group that came in, they're all dead in the third group is all dead. Then the madman rhetoric actually can be effective. Is it absolutely effective? I don't know.

Nobody really knows.

“But is there a great possibility that you use the rhetoric that they use against them?”

But you've backed it up doing something that even though they might have prepared for a lot of it,

they never expected that the United States would actually do with the United States.

You know, has, has, has done. And so using rhetoric in war targeting the enemy is different that when you get a ceasefire, and you're attempting to sell it to the American public that you've been successful, you need to be specific. One thing I saw, for example, yesterday when Trump was asked a question on,

on, you know, Iran, you know, charging a toll and he goes, "Well, we may join them together in charged tolls. You can't sell to the American public. You can't sell it to Congress that you are going to, in international waters put a toll for people to pass through."

Right. You know, you can't sell that. Don't try to sell that. May sound good. People may cheer and go, "All right, we're going to make money.

It's not going to happen. Don't sell something that's not going to happen." Right. And so the, the president, when we talked about this yesterday, when he was playing carrot and stick with the,

with the Iranian leadership, whatever they are, you know, that's, that's fine.

“If you want to play that with the Middle East, that's fine.”

Can't do that with the American public now. The American public wants a, as the American public normally wants, a simple explanation that covers the fact that it was worth it. And that has to be, that has to be your, your goal. And the president said a ton of things of what from, from the eight-minute speech

of what they would accept. They said it again yesterday what they would accept. The president, when he was initially, and we said, yeah, we called it the whole framework. When the president said, okay, we've, they've got their 10-point plan.

We've got our 15.

And then he had to come out yesterday and say, no, their 10-point agreement is just, is, is dead.

We're, never we're going to accept that.

Well, that wasn't the message that you sent the day before. Right. You can't do that. You can do it if your only audience is the Middle East.

“If it's the American public, you need to be precise.”

Yeah. Yeah. On, on what you will accept. And I think they were later on in the day. They were, you know, these are the things that we still want.

You know, these are the things that we have to have. And so the media, I think the legitimate media,

not the insane media that, you know, just trying to portray,

you know, Iran as the victim and the, that's not really going to sell. I got to find the audio cut. There was a Democrat congressman that was sounded like a Republican. Saying, this is all great. This is great.

We've degraded Iran.

“And the reason is that you need to be precise is”

what the president did with Iran, where we are right now. And if we stick to it is probably one of the greatest things that I've seen in modern American history, maybe even, I hate to rank these things,

but up to the level of Reagan challenging the Soviet Union

and the Soviet Union collapsing. But they collapsed on their own. But as to a military, as to a military action, and the benefits we get out of it, I don't know anything in my lifetime that comes close to it.

Well, it is clearly going to be a pivotal moment. And it already has been a pivotal moment. The question is, does the momentum keep going in the proper direction, I believe it will? I have confidence in the president and in the military.

I don't know what the timeline is going to be. The problem they have now is what people are pointing out. You know, the timeline of trying to put a timeline of four to six weeks, setting your own clock can be politically disastrous. Right.

And you don't want that. You don't want a mission accomplished moment

“because I think it's an ongoing mission with Iran.”

Imagine we could get to the point in the coming days where they voluntarily hand over their uranium. I don't think that's going to happen, but let's say they did. And we could account for it and say, yes, we know this is all of it. And then the straight of Hormuz did actually straighten out

and traffic was flowing and you could look at a situation of maybe a transitional government down the road. Still everything would require constant monitoring. There's no way to get through this in our lifetime and for our lifetime for a generation and trust this fully.

That don't just get the hand over the uranium and go, okay. We're done and nobody gets access. Nobody gets to inspect. Nobody gets to, you know, keep us to our hold our feet to the fire. It's not going to work that way.

And so the moment you put a clock on your mission. Politically, you put a clock on that is bound to work against you. Because none of this can be is going to be remedy in four to six weeks. It's not going to be remedied by election day. I do believe we've made great progress.

It's not to say they're behind schedule or we're losing it like the liberal lack of this media. It seems to be held bent on writing stories that make it look like we're losing this and this was a horrible miscalculation and everything else. There is no way to have an accurate calculation for a situation like a ran.

There just isn't. You can have the best intel and everything and I believe we do. I don't belong with the idea of I believe we've got the greatest intel in the world on a ran. And I believe we know what's going on there. But still, there's so many moving parts that you have to price those in.

we don't know we don't know.

“There are things that are going to change in a scenario like this.”

That has to be priced in. But politically and domestically you're up against the wall. There's really no other way that the president was going to do this. Except put a timeline on it and say this is going to be a short fashion. But why did he put a timeline on it?

He put a timeline on it because the American public has an expectation. It's going to be an example. Including defeat defeating Sharia supremacy governments radical Islamic terrorists that we can defeat them in a set period of time. Yes. And then it's time for us not to fight them anymore.

Even though history shows when we do that, they come right back at us.

Part of the problem is the American public and their ignorance and their completely totally unreasonable expectations.

It's based on the ignorance of the threat that faces us. Yep. And I used to say that we had lost our stomach for war and I don't know if that phrasing really applies. I think it's the patience.

“By the way, I think the American people have had for generations.”

Nobody likes war. We would all love for this to be remedied in short fashion. But the difference is with this generation. They're applying it to something they know nothing about. Many of them have not been alive as long as this has been going on.

And so when you apply all of those elements in there, they treat it like, well,

I should be able to binge watch this on Netflix and it be done. Well, it doesn't work that way because of the conveniences we have in our society. And the access to the information that we have on it. It's all of these luxuries we have in our life. And also the safety under the protection of the military and the government when the right administration is in place.

It allows for the luxury of going, yeah, but I wanted to, I want to, I keep reading about the war and my timeline on my social media. I want that to be over.

“I want that to be over when they're not having any considerable conversations about it.”

They don't know anything about it. They're ignorant to the facts. They just know, I don't want to keep seeing it in my timeline. And that is something that is. How dare you interfere with my timeline.

A scroll, scroll, swipe, swipe, scroll, block. All I want is bikini pictures in my Facebook news feed. That's right. I only go to Fox News because I know they're going to have the bikini story. That's right.

You know, 15 stories in. I got to have that bikini story. Get this all this other war crap out of here. Exactly. And it's, but that is the mindset.

You know, it's, we, we want it to, to just not be there. The fact of the matter is that evil exists. So many, so much of the, a delusional mindset comes from. People's either disbelief or refusal to believe that evil exists in the world. And if you look at the heart of terrorism,

especially where it has been in recent years. This has been building for the better part of 50 years with the regime and a rat. As they have sponsored this terrorism globally and killed countless innocent people and would do the same. That culture, they want to remain.

And that is their mission. That is what they live for. And there is no other option. But to rid them of rid the world of them. And be, be done with all of this.

But unfortunately, a timeline can't apply. We are right, I radio. He lines up on for your goals. 866, 90-red eye on Red Eye Radio.

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“One thing that I was thinking of is everything that happens that is actually a good thing for this country.”

When you see police officers doing their job in what happened in 2020, to fund the police and that police departments are systemically racist to hunt down and kill blacks. Which was false. It's completely false. But they sold that.

And they said, "Ice. Ice is now evil. They're the Gestapo. Why?" Because you were two people that wish to obstruct police officers. One using a car that they thought, excuse me, Ice agents. One using a car that they thought she was using as a weapon. And the other one struggling with police who had a weapon on him.

Yeah.

Well, then you become the Gestapo.

It's an execution, whatever. But the same thing when we talk about justifiable wars. The same thing is doesn't matter where it's justified or not. You're just a neocon. Yeah. Right.

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Yeah. So when the point making a little bit the last hour was when you look at all the issues out there. You know, so many of the issues when there isn't a problem or the right thing is being done. Yeah. The attack against doing the right thing is slogans or labels or lies that are not at all in reality. And we can look back and, you know, when, for example, when even Bush was called Hitler.

And then a continued, they didn't like a Republican. It was Hitler, Hitler, Hitler.

And I always said, well, it's actually a dumb comparison because what you're saying is that person is willing to kill 6 million people.

Right. That's, that's what you're putting out. Yes. Well, but, but they are. Well, no, that's an absurd statement to make.

It shouldn't even be discussed. Shouldn't give you the time of day because if you disagree with something fine. But to throw something like that out is just, it's completely and totally ridiculous and shouldn't be given the, you know, time of the day.

“And, and that's how we mentioned, you know, when in, in 2020, the whole thing.”

And, and by the way, the blue wave of intimidation on that one can be in sports leagues and companies and everything else. To donate money to black lives matter that ripped off people left and right. Yeah. And, and the scenario that, you know, the racism that was, the shown from the left towards black cops. Yeah.

You know, it was just was mind boggling. And the entire narrative that police departments are, you know, systemically racist and out to kill hunt down and kill blacks completely and totally false. They made that up. But then, as I said, continuing it in case you weren't listening last hour, continuing on that.

We see it today. Ice officers are the Gestapo. Oh, yeah. Ice officers are executing people completely and totally false. Yep.

Yep. Not even in the realm of reality and they're still saying it every single day. And they don't have to be again, the truth doesn't matter in their world. Now spreading lies is the game. And so then, when it comes to justifiable military action, if you're for it, you're for a

Nielcon. Now this comes from people considered on the right. But I don't necessarily view Tucker Carlson or MTG as a conservative. Right. So it comes out, oh, the Nielcon's and Nielcon's.

And what is the, what is the, the stereotype of the Nielcon that there are people out there that all they want to do is go to war. Yeah. Which is not true. Right.

Otherwise, we'd be involved in a lot more wars than we are now. You know, the United States, you know,

That's a load of horse manure.

Yeah.

“And so, but, but they, they, that is the society that we, we deal with.”

Let's just make the opposition simple in a statement. Use a word or a slogan where we lie about what's actually going on. But we believe it's effective because as people look through their feet, as we said before, I got to get, I got to get, where's my porn pics? Yeah.

This, this, all this stuff's getting, I'm going to go with funny cat videos. But okay. [laughter] Well, you know, I'm the single guy sitting at home alone with cat. [laughter]

Hey, let's, that's fine. To throw out another stereotype, right? We're just, we're just full of stereotypes in accurate, in accurate stereotypes. You're a cat, man, but you don't have 17 cats. Just one.

No. [laughter] You're not a cat lady. 17 cats roaming around. And I don't sit on my laptop looking at porn either.

Yeah. Exactly. Right. Uh, so, uh, you know, whether you like to get to work. [laughter]

Right, because secretly I want to get caught. Yeah. Right. Trying to get fired. Trying to get fired, right.

Right. It was research. I actually, we, we actually did somebody who did that. Yeah. Yeah.

And then I caught. And then he, very quickly, no longer worked for the company. Yeah. Yeah. That was weird.

It's like, I want to get caught. But getting back to the serious conversation here. Yeah.

“You know, understand, uh, you know, what's, what's going on?”

Look, uh, anybody who pays attention to Tucker Carlson and M.T.G. You don't care about the truth. And they've, they've gone wack on nut bags. Right. You know, I'm glad M.T.G. is gone.

I was never a fan. I was never a fan.

And I know, and we said it way back then, never a fan of Tucker Carlson.

No. Neither were you. No. No. And, and, you know, his, the stuff that he comes up with today is to get clicks.

Everything is about, everything is about getting a call. Drawing everything to him. And again, good or bad, it doesn't matter. A click is a click. Right.

And that's the number one rule. It used to be, well, even, any press is good press, even bad press is good press. These days, in that world, any clicks are good click. But it's not because he's not a part of the serious conversation anymore. Well, it's lost.

He lost the ability. Nobody, nobody talks.

“And I know when he was on Fox, everybody talked about Tucker.”

Yeah. You knew right. You, you go to circles. I have friends that were the biggest fans. Of Tucker Carlson.

Yeah. Ever. Mm-hmm. I tease him once in a while. It's what about Tucker.

Who cares about him? Right. Well, you did. Right. Well, because the people coming.

That's okay. They, they realized that. And, and I don't. Shied them too much on it because, you know, they, they realize. Okay.

You know, the, the people coming to go is coming to go. Whether elected office or in the media, the people coming to go. Uh, they're, they're, are people that do good work. And that, that we might agree with. And then they, they might do something else that we disagree with.

It doesn't matter. I judge the work, the actions of an individual. I, I don't have any loyalty or allegiance. I don't want to be tribal in any way with anyone. We have friends that work in the media.

And I'm grateful to have friends in the media. But I don't need to be on team whoever it is. I don't need to be on because that's where a lot of it is going. You know, something, did you hear this?

We never got a chance to talk about this.

I forgot who was having the conversation. And I'm sure you probably heard it was going on in social media. And I don't know if somebody wrote an article on it. But it was that, uh, the, you know, the conservatives and the Republicans don't know what to do because Rush Limbaugh is no longer here.

Interesting. And I went, I could imagine Rush going, no. And, and he was the first to say it. Hmm. I'm just relating in a huge forum.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What conservatives already believe.

That's why they love it. I think I think if that, that conservatives don't know what to do unless they have somebody to follow. And that's completely false. It's, it's false in the following. I would say Rush would hold court every day.

Yeah. And of course, did a great job at it. But I think the, the point that Rush would make is as you alluded to, uh, would be, well, he's expressing the ideas that remain. And, and the people come and go.

Uh, and those ideas remain. And if you cannot focus for yourself on those ideas and express them, promote them if you are on Capitol Hill. Uh, if you're in elected office.

“If you don't understand how to express those ideas, do you need to go home?”

You need to do something. You need to quit. You need to do something else because you're not serving the role. If, if you're looking for somebody else's guidance. You know, it used to be that, um, back in the Clinton days.

Bill Clinton would just basically look at the polls wherever the polls were going, you know, I want to do that. I want to do that. I want to do that. And it was weird.

But if you look at it today, think about how much is available. And in, in, in terms of the, the public sentiment and what lawmakers and people and elected office have available to them in reading, engaging the public sentiment. It's you, you can't just go wherever the crowd is going.

And of course, that's where they always go.

Look, everybody was worried about TikTok because it was controlled by China. The moment you threatened to take TikTok down. Oh, my gosh, we got to save TikTok. I mean, this is the madness. And you, and, and we get away from the very foundation of this nation.

And if you're not in tune with that every day, if you're convictions and passion for that office that you hold, don't exist every day based on the foundation of this nation. And those conservative principles that it tells me you're not a true conservative or you're just not fit for the role. Yeah.

“I, I think the one thing that that talk radio does because it's the response that we get.”

People are busy doing their jobs. And so they hear all this stuff. And they say, you guys sort of just clarify everything that's going on. And, and so I can go on the next day, knowing, you know, okay, this is what's going on today. This is going on today.

This is going on here.

And also the other thing that I know you and I have always gotten that, and thank you so much.

They, they've said, you have taught us how to argue against liberals. And I think Rush did a tremendous job of, of doing that. And he was the one, I mean, he broke the ground for everyone. Yeah. You know, like Rush, like any other radio talk shows, did I, do I agree with everything that he had to say?

No, we had disagreements at times. Yeah. You know, you know, that talk show host Eric Erickson? Yeah. And I like Eric.

“I mean, I don't always agree with him, but I think he's his own person.”

He's not tribal at all. Right. He's a conservative. And I really appreciate that. And I think he's, he's only in his 40s.

He's like he's been around a long time. He's, oh, yeah. He's 40s. I think he does a wonderful job. He's in talk radio because of Rush.

I didn't know that. Yeah. And yeah, Rush told him, you know, to do it. So the influence that he had was huge. But most conservatives, you know, conservatism has existed without a, a, because I think this is what the left was trying to say that the conservatives need a property,

a leader, a propaganda in order to coalesce together. And I would disagree with that completely. I would disagree with that. I would say that the rank and file has available to them. The ability to find, essentially, the points to make their arguments, if, if, you know, that's the goal.

But to find the facts, find, you know, the, everything that backs conservative principles and everything else. You have that, you're, we don't believe, you're stupid. I don't believe Rush believed anybody was stupid. You're capable of doing that. Rush would set the tone because the, it was different back then, you know, of course it began long before the smartphone age.

And you could set that tone.

And I just, I just love that. I, I love the, the role that he played in that. But today, everyone is capable.

“And I think if you were a conservative rank and file, I think you certainly have that available to you.”

I think, and I don't know if it's generational, but we've, we've seen populism creep into the conservative realm.

Here, in, in the later years, and, and maybe it was always there to a certain extent, but it is, it seems to take hold with a certain faction of the conservative group.

If you want to call them conservative. And that's a bit disappointing because, again, going down that popular road, we'll often get you, you know, promoting things that that aren't conservative in nature aren't conservative principles at all. I think when you, when you look at the late Charlie Kirk, the left, I think, you know, viewed Rush as dangerous because he made arguments, successful arguments against them on a national level.

Yeah. And, and like I've said, that's one of the things we get, we get constantly. You guys have taught me how to argue on every single day else that there go. Yeah. Oh, boy, that sounds like that might have a point there. And from a liberal, or it may have, it may have a, a political impact if it's not argued against correctly.

Yeah. And that's what we, the talk to do. You found that with Charlie Kirk from young college, Republicans and conservatives, you taught me how to argue with the liberal successfully.

“Now, some of them didn't maybe want to argue with them, but the fact is, I have, I understand now,”

because at times the, as we call it, the blue wave of intimidation, intimidates people. We saw it in 2020, people didn't know how to respond. Who responded to that?

Who was, who, what was the, the media entity that never backed off the BS of the summer of 2020?

It was conservative talk radio. Yep. Almost every single media outlet sports team industry crumbled under it. Yeah. And, and so, and like I said, you could, it was the first time in my life.

I didn't personally feel it because I don't care. I don't, you know, but, whatever. I work for any company as we don't like which you're going to say, but fire me, I'll go to somewhere else. Right. I don't, right.

And I've always been that way, even when I was younger.

Yeah. And once I got into this, it was like, no, I'm going to do what I want to do. And, and, you know, some people tried to change, but not many really. It's really amazing how real, the, the, the, the freedom you have, even if you work for a major corporation. They hire you to produce the content, which is the most wonderful thing in the world.

And I know we used to get it. Well, you guys, you get your talking points every morning. And we said, do you really believe that? And the one guy said, yes, that isn't true. You know, we get to, we get to pick that.

We have total and complete editorial control of our show. And I've always had that. And if I didn't have it or somebody pressured me, I go, no, I'm not going to do it. Right. And, and so, that is, that is the beauty, that is the beauty of it.

But do, control conservatives?

“Are, are they helpless without a talk radio leader?”

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“Eric, some of the really interesting audio cuts from yesterday that I think everybody should hear.”

Caroline Levitt and responding to the insinuation from reporters as we have talked about. And I've got into some discussion with people that I know who seem to think that there's some type of morally equivalent scene. Yeah. The United States and the you know, Sharia Supremacy Law, which is just mind-boggling because it could not be further from the truth.

But here she is yesterday. I was asked this exact same question by your colleague Andrew in the back. And I think again, the insinuation by anyone in this room that Iran somehow has the moral high ground over the United States of America is insulting considering the atrocities that they have. Considering the atrocities that they have committed against our people and our military over the past five decades. Then you had this is really interesting because this is representative Josh.

Godheimer, a Democrat from New Jersey on with the Scott Jennings on with the CNN. And in making the same point, a Democrat. Yeah. Here we go. The goal should be to crush the leading states sponsor of terror.

We should want to massively set back as a country. They're ballistic missile program. We should want to weaken their nuclear program. We've weakened it a bit less June. And I'm hoping when we get the out reports here that we've weakened it more.

We should want to set back their terror program. And they want to undermine our freedom and our democracy. We should gloss over the goal that we should all share. I don't think anybody's glossing over that. I don't think anybody's glossing over that.

I don't think anybody's glossing over that. I don't think anybody's glossing over that. I don't think anybody's glossing over that. I don't think anybody's glossing over that. I don't think anybody's glossing over that.

I don't think anybody's glossing over that. And then you got into that. Seriously, it's like walking into Pet adoption day at Pet Cup with a bunch of puppies. Just yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's except for that experience is more adorable than listening to what we just heard. It's, you know, the activists in the left media really want this to be obviously a loser for Trump.

If this mission is successful, I have confidence, it's going to be. I don't think he's going to start this and not finish it. And I don't know that you can measure it. Only time will be able to measure how monumental, how pivotal this is. For world peace in general, but the age of terrorism does it mean terrorism will be gone.

The answer is no, but the game will be changed forever.

If the Iranian regime is gone and their ability to have nukes is gone.

“That's why as we said earlier, you know, that we talked about the domestic politics of this.”

And the fact is you've got to communicate the importance of what has happened here, which means you've got to be consistent in your messaging all the time. Yeah, you know, and we said the president, you know, again in the initial statement. We understand it in the initial statement because, you know, we, the ten point plan, you know, that do we, you know, can reasonably basically have a free framework with the Iranian plan, then coming out the next day. As we knew he would and completely and totally reject it.

You've got to be careful when your audience now is Americans listening to what you are saying. But I want to play this. This is a general cane yesterday and this is a question that was asked by a reporter and good question. Here we go.

“During the ceasefire, what do we do when we see Iran rearming, regrouping, repositioning weapon systems and air defenses?”

And also, have we confirmed the specific model type of air defense or man pads that took down our F-15? And it's still a threat for our patrols. We're still working through the specific details around that particular shoot down. And the crews, when they normally return, go through a debriefing process along with the other members of that flight that were out there.

And they'll go back as they always do and forensically look at what are the tactical lessons learned?

Did we censor see something? Could we have done something different? We do that as I mentioned in a prior press conference every single time we take any loss like that so that we become a quick learning organization. On the other part of your question around the movement of Iranian military forces, US sent com will continue to monitor that situation. They will continue to have a series of response options.

And if need be, we'll come to the Secretary and the President for guidance and be prepared to do the things that they're ordered to do so against valid military targets in accordance with the normal procedures that we have. Which sounds like if we think they're rebuilding, we'll hit them again. Yeah. Right now again, the ceasefire, what do we have, what we're at 12 and a half days now left in the ceasefire 15 days so. Okay 13 and a half days in it negotiations are supposed to start, but as everybody recognizes there, so we said it initially yesterday.

And we said there is no framework. We laugh and we laughed at it because we basically get that whenever we get from from Congress.

The Democrats and Republicans have come up with a framework, so no you haven't. No, that means nothing and so when we heard it yesterday, we said no, that's what you say to begin the ceasefire. You know, I would have said it differently. We're going to look at what's on there on, you know, their 10 point plan and they can review our 15 point plan. Of course, everybody knows we have a ton of problems with what they have there. You tend to do it diplomatically and and you move on from from that point.

Talking about making it sound like there was a framework based on the 10 point plan and then coming out the next day going, no, we're not considering any of that.

“I mean, it's like remember that the audience is now the American public and you've got to be consistent, I believe in that constantly.”

The other, this really isn't an audio cut. It was actually a report from, let me do I did I save it yes from from NBC, let me just get it here. From last night and it's headline here, let me get to it here.

Hey, we're only what six days away.

“Oh, I'm tax day right. Yeah, and here we go.”

Some Americans are protesting the war in Iran and President Trump's domestic policies by putting their money where their mouth is as part of a call to sit out a paying federal taxes this year. I'm Rachel and I'm not paying my federal income tax this year. It's time that we stop paying our taxes tax strike 2026 spread the word on social media. People saying they'd rather put the money into a savings account donate it to a charity or simply keep it for themselves anything instead of handing it over to the federal government.

It's called War Tax Resistance. A type of protest that's been around in some forms since the

colonial. Okay, we can go blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't think they're putting their money with their,

“where their mouth is as much as they're putting their head with their asses. Because this is a, this is, this is going to be a problem for you with the IRS. If you think you can get away with not paying your taxes,”

as a form of protest. Good luck, but you'll need a lawyer. Well, we suggest you pay attention to the Wesley Snipes rule. Yeah, exactly. And we don't mean what he did. Now, if we do me what he did, but how he spent jail time. Now, the thing is, they're showing people on social media. NBC has people on social media. Yeah. Do you think that the IRS has already, yes, that story, yes,

with these people with their faces on social media saying, I don't plan to pay my taxes because there's a couple of things.

You got to file. If you can't pay, you can negotiate, as we all know, with the IRS payment plan, whatever, payment exactly. What you can record in the case of Bill and Nelson, whatever. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So you've got. So you've got to file.

“And you cannot evade taxes. These idiots are on their own social media accounts with their face.”

And we have facial recognition now, that's them because it matches their license and it matches their TSA. You would be in fact, even without that technology, you would be shocked how easy it is to find who that person is on that social media page. All their information. Yeah. Exactly. And I mean, they're saying, we are going to we my plan is to break the law. And you shake your head going, you're an idiot, but I like how the reporter said, these people are saying, they would rather not in such a non-slot. Yeah. Yeah. These people would rather not pay their taxes.

I'd like to, you know, put it in savings. Put it in savings. Don't eat it for savings or give it to charity. Maybe take a cruise somewhere that they wish to have their money and do with it what they wish to do. Well, but taxes are damn rich and they better pay or they go to jail. We can have a conversation about taxes in context. Yes. Let's have that conversation. Well, I could do better things with my money. Oh, okay. Let's have that conversation. Now, do they believe that across the board? No,

because they want the rich guy across the street to be paying his taxes. He better pay for it. Here's my question for them. Okay. You want the billionaires to pay more because they got to pay their fair share, but they would be funding the war. Go ahead, discuss. But they need to pay, but they're going to be paying for the war. But I'll get back to you. It's they, there's a conversation to be had and we've had it conservatives on income taxes or

or how we tax the American people and what should happen in an effort to change policy. I do not protest through not paying my taxes. But the entire concept is, this is where they're completely hypocritical. They're saying I can do better with my money than the government does. That's conservative argument. That's what, that's that. That's what I'm saying. We can have that

Right. Exactly. That's how people do, do Democrat. No, I only believe that I can. I don't

“believe you can. Exactly. And the billionaires still need to pay more. We are right, I radio.”

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I just, I burst out laughing when I saw that NBC report yesterday about the people that

weren't going to pay through taxes and I thought it's just going to be a report and they'll say, you know, these people, uh, anonymously said. And all of a sudden, there's these people talking about the fact. I'm not going to pay my taxes. I'm going to make their face. They're doing on social media.

“And I think it to myself. IRS agents are watching this salivating. Yes. Going, wow. This is just”

it means it's like, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Did try that. And they mentioned Joan Bias did that

during the Vietnam War. And the IRS put a lean on her stuff. Yeah. It's like, I mean, it's going to come back at you. You know, again, find a good lawyer, but even your good lawyer is going to tell you, yeah, you're going to have to settle off. I think the best argument, if billionaires came out said, look, I can do better with my money. I want to take the argument that liberals are using here. Yeah. You think the left would buy it? I doubt it.

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