05-14-26 Part One - Solar 101: The Battery

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All the cross America. We are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Good morning. Welcome. Thanks for being here. Hello. All right, I just discovered this in the last two minutes. All right, what'd you get? Just before we went on the earth. I got to play this this this this this this this audio cut. All right, because these are our our Democrats. The interior secretary, Bergen was in front of

the the the the house and environmental committee or whatever today. So they're talking about you know energy.

Now, this is listen to this, and this is the Democrats represent of let me see represent of Huffman. I don't know where he's from. Like I said, I just discovered this. All right, and and I'll do the research here, but it's just it's just too humorous. They actually believe they have a got you. You ready? Yeah, okay. Listen, I mean, it's like you're dealing with children. Yeah, here we go. All right, all right, all right. Let's, okay. Yeah, the lizard analysis that suggests that this is the cheapest form of energy.

All of these projects are describing and about to have one thing in common. When the sun goes down, they produce zero electricity. And this nation over rotated towards intermittent forms of energy. And and the idea that we could add intermittent and shut down base load is what put our grid at deep risk.

“And the idea that it's the cheapest, if you want to add intermittent, you have to keep everything else.”

And so the, so there, we have to have a discussion about the total cost of grid, not the cost of the incremental because it's true on an incremental basis. You may have an incremental source, but it doesn't work. The whole, the whole machine doesn't work when the sun goes down. And there's examples from around the world of this happening. And so it's, it's a, you know, cherry picking an analysis that doesn't look. We're looking at reliable affordable and secure. And I would encourage everybody here to get an skip and to understand that most of these components, very few of these components for the solar industry are coming from the US, they're coming from China.

And just like we have with Huawei equipment, there, there is, there's modifications on those that would allow foreign governments to interfere with our grid. And I just want to, I want to have a rational discussion with everybody. This is not an ideological thing. It's about reliable affordable and secure.

I'm off. Okay. Now, I'm stopping it just for a second because he's made his point.

Yeah, which is a, which is completely and totally 100% accurate. I don't know any falsehood that he told me. Right. And that was representative. Is that is, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's the interior sector. Okay, that's broken. Okay, that's broken. Okay, all right, help men's a democrat. Right. All right. So that's, so that's, that's, bergum talking about the fact, as we talked about many times before, the cost is not just the cost of the solar panel. It's the unnecessary redundancy that you have to have when the solar panel goes off. We know here in the state of Texas, we dealt, we dealt with it.

“If you are going to, for example, at that point, I don't know what it is right now. I don't have it in front of me, but remember that wind in the state of Texas, if the wind is blowing can actually power 60% of the grid.”

Right. But if the power isn't running and goes down. Now, this goes back to February 21. I don't know precisely where we are right now, what the, you know, what the, the ratio is. I know that the legislature has dealt with it. Remember that the, the slush fund was. Yeah, I want to call it a slush fund or whatever, in order to build, you know, more cold generation plans or natural gas plans, whatever, in order to be there in case these things run down. As we know, once the power demand expanded, we built solar and wind, but didn't back it up in case those went off.

Hopefully, so we experienced what we experienced in February of 21 here in the state of Texas, which was an absolute disaster. Yeah. Right. And so that's what he's saying. There's an unnecessary redundancy. And the cost of a solar panel is not just the cost of the solar panel. But the cost of the unnecessary redundancy that you have to maintain in order to back up the solar panel at night or whatever, which is completely and totally logical. There's the response from the Democrats here. Okay. Okay. Okay. There we go.

We're going to move on to the next question in the share.

That's why they're cleaning our clock on clean energy, but I want to enter that into the record.

“And that was the, I don't know, I believe, yes, that was a supplement. That was okay.”

California's second district.

Yeah. The reason I asked if the first one was a supplement, because I thought, well, it's Gary playing a Democrat who's making sense. Is there one? Is there one? I'm sorry. I didn't get a chance to even throw a bite because we, you know, we were talking and stuff.

I played it then we started talking the two minutes before and I said, because I haven't seen the audio at all. Yeah. You haven't seen the video over the audio. And I just, I just played a two minutes before and it was just a perfect example of dealing with children. Yeah.

Battery power cannot supplement a solar farm. No. At night. No, it cannot. We do not have the ability to check now. Well, no, we could do it.

Who wants to pay? Who wants to pay? Oh, I don't know. $5 per kilowatt hour instead of 15 cents.

Apparently the people look out for you at least in the second district.

I mean, you, you, you can, you, you can do it. Yeah. Nobody's, nobody is going to be for it.

“But no, the technology really doesn't exist on that level to replace wind and solar with batteries.”

He's the ranking member on the House natural resources committee. That's the committee. That's the committee. You, and this, when we sit there and say idiots. Yeah. And by the way, when she said they're not replacing base load, look at all the nuclear plants that were closed down.

Right. Look at the cold generation plants that were shut down. Right. Right. And by the way, China, he's right. China is cleaning our clock.

Actually, they're cleaning out the taxpayer account because we spent a lot of taxpayer money going over to China. They're pouring it down the drain to companies who were building solar. And we did that for way too long. Yeah. But I mean, this is, this is what you're dealing with with Democrats.

There, there is no critical, you're, you're dealing.

I said yesterday first graders, I've got to go to preschool or maybe I'll just say uneducated. Completely uneducated three years, three year olds because I don't. And, but they, it was like they had a got you. Right. Let's put it into the record that the secretary doesn't know about this new invention called the battery.

Right. As if he's, I've got you on this. What an idiot. Yeah. This, again.

What an absolute idiot. Well, again, like, like the battery is the end-all bill. Yeah, California, no wonder you're going down the crap or with people like that representing you. Right. That don't have a clue.

Right.

“As to how electricity works, how you deliver it, how grids work?”

Right. What, what we actually have that stores electricity, what the cost per kilowatt hour would be if you had to do something like that. Completely ignorant. And at the same time incredibly arrogant. Yes.

And mocking is if, oh, we've got this, we've got Bergam now. You don't know about the battery. Right. It's, it's, it's look. They're struggling to get one car past 300 miles on a battery charge.

They're struggling. You know, this, there's a lot about the, like, the Tesla big rig and everything else. I have some friends who've witnessed some of the testing on these electric big rigs. Rechargeable. Well, you talk about having to stop every other hour and recharge 80,000 pounds.

No. Not going to happen. You want to move stuff around the yard. That's one thing. You want to move stuff around your own depot.

That's one thing. You want to use them in the ports. That's one thing. Long haul. We're not there yet.

Well, the interesting thing is Bergam was saying, I want to have a serious conversation on this. Yeah. Is what he's saying? Yeah.

I want to look. I want to have a serious conversation. This isn't about politics. This is about, this is about science. Yes.

It's about the science of electricity. Right. And it's about the cost per kilowatt hour that is acceptable to the public. You can do a ton of different things. Things are possible.

You know, you can have a, we can sit there. The government can come out tomorrow and say everybody needs to have a hydrogen car. Well, nobody would own a car except the rich. Right. Because it's too expensive to build.

Right. We can build everybody a nuclear vehicle about technically we could. Hmm. Nobody could afford it. Right.

And by the way, if you got into a car crash, that would be something. Well. It's something that's like you can certainly.

But it's just, and so what do they come back with?

“They don't come back with anything backed up on on science.”

They come back mocking him. Yes. As if they believe that don't you know that if all the solar panels go out. That batteries and we know people have the battery systems in their homes. You know, we also know it's pretty expensive to do it.

And we know not as many people are doing it if it's not subsidized. Yeah. Because that's the, you know, the full cost of it. But if it was cheaper to do that, everybody would do it. Yeah.

People that are well off can do something like that and have a battery system. In their house, it may run off as solar panels. And some people did that when, you know, you had credits. And I don't know what the credits are anymore. Whether they're gone or not for it.

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So in the middle of the night, they basically shut everything down.

It's a beautiful area. So you didn't really have to worry about even in the summer. Much air conditioning or anything like that. You didn't have to worry about those things. Right?

If I don't care how you want to live your life. In fact, good for you.

Individually, I fully support that.

“When that's happening in a big way, you'll see long lines.”

At Home Depot and Lowe's are wherever it's going to be. To get hooked up for everybody to be on board. But the grid itself has to be reliable. This isn't just about affordability. I mean, that's the biggest part of it.

That's that will be the biggest hurdle. But it would be likely the government at some point saying, Sorry, you can't have electricity between midnight and 6am. You can't run air conditioning. We can't do that.

We've talked about the liberals that have said that. You don't need air conditioning. We don't need electricity 24/7. Right. That, you know, with the AI said,

We're going too far with using energy. But here's one of the responses. It's like, this guy writes in response to this on X. I request to enter into the record that battery store energy. They do not produce it.

And that the sheer size and number of batteries needed to supply said energy to even a medium size town without other means of production would cover an area of the size of LA. [laughter] But I just, I thought it was the perfect example of what we talk about.

“And I think it's a big ignorance plus arrogance at the same time.”

Yep. Because that, the, what's is a huffman, whatever. This doof is from California.

Yeah, Jared Huffman, congressional of the second congressional district.

You know, it is like, this is a gotcha. We've gotcha now. There we go. The whole battery. It's probably shaking.

Is that like me? Yes, it does. Yeah. Yeah. Huh?

You like that singer? No, no, no, no, no. I love that. Yep. When you hire idiots like that to represent you.

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You know, the idea of basically, with Rubio's involvement, the idea is put pressure on a ran for the straight to Hormuz when it comes to China. Have China put pressure on a ran. I don't know if that's possible. I don't know if, first of all, I don't know if China's even willing to do that.

So the visit to me was always about not just trade, but a ran.

“I think those two, you know, were, were neck and neck for top priority.”

But yeah, I don't know what's going to come up. I don't trust anything from China. I don't know anybody that, that water should. We'll get into some of the details and then the whistle blowers testimony. We learn nothing new.

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“And this is a this is CBS and how they ended.”

They're evening news last night. All right. Okay. Okay. Ready for this?

Okay. And here we go. Okay. I just want to I want to play this because this has if any liberals watching CBS. They they had to be just crying.

Yeah. Here we go. All right. Finally tonight from Taiwan as President Trump and China. Xi Jinping prepared to meet.

You will hear a lot about American decline.

And the rise of a powerful new China.

The Chinese certainly believe it. But is it true? Xi's China is a marvel by many measures.

“This is the world's second largest economy producing almost 30% of the world's manufactured goods.”

They have high-speed rails that put the Estella to shame. And China has lifted millions of its citizens out of poverty, making things like the iPhones and your pocket in mind. And yet America remains the innovation hub of the world. Made in China, yes.

But designed and invented in the USA. New drugs, new discoveries, new inventions, new space missions. Xi, both of the country's industrial might. And it's impossible to deny that fact. China's population is in decline though, well below replacement rates.

On employment is high with millions and rural provinces living in poverty. And massive housing complexes that now sit empty.

Most importantly, and perhaps I'm stating the obvious here, none of these problems are

a topic on the Chinese evening news. In fact, pessimism itself is forbidden on the Chinese internet. The freedoms we have, they simply do not. That's another day in America and the world. I'm turning a couple live from Taipei Taiwan.

Now, why Xi and Taipei Taiwan? They didn't get into China. They didn't get into China. They didn't get into China. Well, okay.

But you know what I love when they when he said they have high speed rail. You know, puts what we have to shame. Well, as if American can't build a high well. We can build, we can build a high speed rail. California may not be able to.

But no, we can build a high speed rail. We have the technology to do it. Yeah. It's the the the same thing with the the supersonic plane. All right.

I got my mind. What was it called? The the almost said concordia. The concord. The concord.

Yeah. It's like when we didn't why didn't we do that. We didn't do that because we could make their lines could make money on it. All right. They could make money on it.

They could sell the tickets to do it. The reason that we don't had the reason it's like. It's not that we can't build the best high speed rail train in the United States. You know, we can do it. If it wants to if it would be profit the problem.

It's not profitable. Yeah. It was it was mega profitable. Everybody would be doing it again. You know, that's what it gets down to.

You know, I mean, whether we're talking about renewable energy or or things like high speed rail. But China has batteries. Yeah. And I don't by the way, I don't think China's running any city on batteries. No, I didn't know.

It's because again, it's what China can afford to do is do what we're pretty much doing right now at 39 trillion in counting. It is spend like nobody's business without anybody having any say so. Now, we do have to say so we don't say anything about it. There's the difference. It's it's like.

I was watching a couple of documentaries on, you know, whether it's, you know, Dubai or, you know, Malaysia or wherever with all these. That everybody's trying to top the other one when it comes to the height of a, you know, of their skyscrapers.

“And it's like, well, how come the United States isn't keeping up?”

Right. Because it's not profitable. Right. That's why that's why we don't do it. Well, it's, it's like, what about the fastest car?

Okay. Where are we going with this? Because as far as I know, the speed limits haven't changed to the effect that you could drive any speed you want.

What did you get hit? I thought I got pulled over the other day. Copyright behind me. I thought I kind of been speeding. I kind of been speeding.

This student front of me is going to slow for me to speed. I want speed. Now that they, they let up somebody else around. That was in front of me. So I pulled over.

No, but it's a, but with the skyscrapers, for example, they're like, all these countries are doing it not because they're making a profit. It's an ego thing. Yeah. It's like this is the symbol that we're successful. So we're going to lose money by building this.

Right. No, this is the thing that, you know, again. We're in a race to nowhere. High speed rail. Again, there's no profit in it. There wouldn't be the demand.

Yeah. We have things called. I'll, I'll do what the California Congressman did. Let me introduce for the record technology called airplanes. That, that people may not be aware of because commercially.

It's really easy relatively speaking to fly here in the US. So high speed rail. You've got to make, it's got to be more appealing than flying. You know, there's a lot of things that I have, you know, romance about.

I always want to take one of the train rides.

You know, across the country. And because the scenery and everything else. And then I think about it. And it's like, I'm not really, I probably get bored after a couple of hours. I'm playing.

I want to drive. That's the only thing for me. I want to be in control where I stop. And it's like, I probably want to, I probably want to drive. And the thing is, I haven't, I haven't done it.

You know, and so if I haven't done it, it means I really don't want. I really don't want to do it.

“One of the things, and I think it happened during COVID.”

Yeah. And I never really paid attention to it. But was the, you know, the people that live van life. Yeah. You know, and I never, you know, and I just,

I would never go full time in a van. Right. But I just went, wow, these things are really, really interesting. I said, you know, if I ever decide to retire, maybe I'll get a nice one, you know.

And, you know, because they're, you know, they're so cool. And you can drive during the day. And then relax somewhere. Yeah. And then I did the cost analysis of it.

Oh, if you're going to pay 150 grand for one of those things. 150 grand. You know, the one. And, and I do this just for the heck of it.

I, I always check to see.

All right, what's the, what's the latest fan with all the different equipment that I would actually want and what would it cost? Mm-hmm. And the one, I, what is it called comfy van or cozy van or whatever? Mm-hmm.

It actually is gravity seats in the back. The TV comes down. Yeah. And everything else. Yeah.

They have a, they have a shower, but it's a table. And it automatically goes up. Just the build. Sure. That's not a strip clip.

Just the build itself. Well, basically, if you get, you know,

“you have to get the Mercedes-Benz Ford or whatever.”

You know, the, the, the actual, the truck or van. Right. Right. This is just the set up of it. 300,000.

Yeah. No thanks. I can get a tour bus or half a million that we'll, we'll dwarf it. And, and on the amenities, we'll crush it. And, and, and, so then I sat there and I went, well, okay.

Uh, then, but this goes back about five years ago when I didn't know about that. I was looking at the one I would want. And it was like about 200,000. I go 200,000. And then I figured what insurance would be every year.

And then what maintenance would be and everything else. Mm-hmm. And I sat there and went, I could buy a new vehicle. And let's be honest. I'm not going to be on the road all the time.

This is for maybe, you know, maybe 30 days a year. I'll be traveling. And 30 days a year would be a lot for me. Yeah. That'd be like, you know, four different times for a week.

Right. Vacation wise.

Vacation trials receive your family as you always have.

Right. At some point, you'll, you'll take a vacation. We don't know when that will be. But, but I, but I, but I said, you know, when I really want to instead of fly.

“Drive, I go, well, I think I'd be forced.”

If I pay 200,000 for a van. It would be like when I, when I belonged to the golf club. Yeah. I, I hated golf because I felt like I had to golf. If I felt like I had to drive, you know, to New York or wherever I'm going.

Going next week to see my buddy. It's Jerry and Mary time in Tarpen. Jerry and Mary. Jerry and Mary. Jerry, Gary and Mary.

Right. In, in, in Tarpen Springs next next week. Right. And, and, but if I felt like I had to drive.

Yes.

And the destination for me, like me and my wife have a RV camper and we're actually going to sell it and upgrade.

We're going to get, we're going to get a, a mobile home. We're going to get a, one that can, right, a, a driveable motor home. Uh, and the reason is for us, multiple destinations along the way is the idea. If we're going to one destination, like I wouldn't want to drive to, like Tahoe, where we vacation sometimes.

I wouldn't want, because unless I'm stopping in different places, you know, New Mexico. Maybe I've got a Utah or whatever. And, but you're talking about, it's a 24 hour each way trip, right? Now break that up into eight hours a day and eight hours a day. It's a lot of driving.

It is. And then you don't get so you, you're going to want to stop for a couple of days at each destination. For multiple destinations, it's great.

“If you want to go on our, like a long-term road trip that's, you know,”

probably at least a couple of weeks along. But I don't want to be my parents did it. My parents had a trailer and they pulled it and they would be gone for three to six months a year. And I, I don't want to be gone from home that long. No, I mean, I, you know, I just wouldn't want to do that.

Mine was basically just to, you know, well, I can justify taking trips and not stay in hotels and everything else. And then I did the math of it. And I could go, like, go, I don't know, four to four months every single year for the next 40 years. And stay in hotels for 300 grand. Yeah.

Well, not even, not even reached that. If you take all the maintenance issues and everything else and getting new van, you know, and having to update, do all the maintenance and everything else. But I could go over like 30 years, four months and have a new vehicle and try and not come close to what it would cost to have the van and I'd get a free breakfast every morning.

And I would never have to clean a black tank or drain a black tank or a gray tank.

And then that was really decision. I'm not going to be draining. I'm not going to be Ralph Cramden or not Ralph Cramden once it is his buddy. Oh, yeah, who clean source. Yeah.

I'm not going to clean source as an enjoyment in my retirement. Not that hard. I don't care. Not that hard. I don't want to do it.

Yeah. It'd be like, do I want to do that? No. I want the nice shower and toilet in the hotel room. Well, yeah.

Well, I'll never enter that. I'll never, I'm not doing either. I'm going to absolutely lie the rest of my life.

My wife and I have a green acre kind of thing because I've spoiled her on, you know, destinations and things like that.

I've spoiled her. I don't know. She spoiled herself. She works very hard. But, you know, we've been spoiled on destinations for the longest time.

And I also like outdoors. She likes outdoors too. Until there's like mosquitoes or, you know, extreme heat like that and stuff like that. And I get where she's coming from. But for me, we kind of meet the middle.

And when we go camping, it's the perfect we have indoors. If we want to be indoors, and outdoors, if we want to be outdoors. And to me, it's, well, it's great.

“I think the, the, the, the, the, the point is like with, with China, where they,”

they talk about everything and then the skyscrapers, you know, well, well, we, we're not building trains like them. We don't have the high tech, they're implying we don't have the technology to do it. No, we don't do it because it's all government funded. Look at those options. It's hard that they have it.

It's like, okay. Or you have systems where people can't afford cars. Yeah. Or they don't have the infrastructure for cars. Right.

Right. Or they ban cars. Right. And they force you on to trains. Right.

You know, where we don't want to be Portland, Oregon. Well, see anybody who lives in Portland knows exactly what I'm talking about. See, because news is doing all this bragging on what they have. And then, ends it by saying reporting from Taiwan. Because we couldn't actually get into China.

It's so great. It's too great for CBS news. Visa problems, or they, they apply to later. Right. Yeah.

You know, that's the thing.

“And so Barry, why is it getting the blame for that?”

Well, it's, you got to step it up Barry. Get your, get your people into China where they belong. I was, it didn't happen yet. Doesn't, doesn't she know Taiwan is in China? No, right.

Yeah. No, wait for that. Someone's already set it up. Sure. We are, we are right.

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He is our Cronian. I'm Gary MacBamara. You know, really interesting. It's, when we talk about the president over in, in China. And I, looking at this yesterday that, you know, some of a lot of the supplies coming in are coming in from rail.

You know, to Iran.

Right. Right. Yeah.

You know, that, that China stuff's coming in on rail.

And we, there was one bridge they took out. I don't think that was a rail bridge. Right. But there, I was reading the other day.

“I think it was Wall Street Journal about the rail bridge.”

They're, they're, they're not the rail bridge. The, the, the tracks. Yeah, the rail system. The rail system that leads in. We're trying to stuff's coming from China.

Right. We haven't hit it yet. Right. And it's like, you know, the president has a lot of things here.

You really don't need China.

But what you need China to do is stay out of it. That's really it. But in order to win this, you don't need any cooperation. China was the point they were making. Yeah.

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Good morning. All right. So, we don't really spend a lot of time talking about court cases. Because, you know, we're. And we just don't.

I mean, it's because a lot of times, you don't know what's going on inside the trial. But two different cases, the Alex Murdoch case back in South Carolina. Yeah. That was interesting because there was outrage immediately. And until people started, well, this is what the court clerk actually did.

Right. And when you see that, you're just like, oh my god, no wonder was you an animus from the Supreme Court. Yeah. Doesn't matter whether you think the evidence was there that he was guilty or not. What the court clerk did.

When I read that, I went, oh yeah. And it was a former county court clerk Rebecca Hill. And by the way, she was, she was charred, you know, she was charred. I believe in convicted of felonies. Yeah.

She engaged in extensive misconduct, jury tampering. She told the jurors not to be fooled by the defense evidence or testimony. And you and I went, the court clerk did this. She instructed them to closely watch Murdoch's body language and behavior on the stand. She told co-workers she wanted a guilty verdict to boost sales for self-published book.

She represented misinformation to the trial judge in a successful effort to have a jury removed, who she believed was favorable to the defense. Wow. I mean, it's just following a state investigation. She resigned in March of 2024 and pleaded guilty to multiple felony charges in 2025.

Perjury and obstruction, she admitted to allowing members of the media unauthorized access to view sealed trial exhibits. And subsequently line about it under oath to the judge, misconduct in office. She confessed to using her public office and titled to promote her book. The theft of public funds, she admitted to misappropriating nearly 12,000 in unauthorized bonuses using county state and federal public funds, which she was forced to pay back in restitution.

She was sentenced to three years of probation for her financial and administrative crimes. However, her breathtaking and disgraceful jury interference led the South Carolina Supreme Court to rule unanimously that she denied Murdoch's constitutional right. By the way, she should have been in jail for that. Yeah, that should have been some jail time. That's way over the top of crossing some kind of boundary.

That's committing a crime deliberately. For self-gang. And it's, you know, so now you've got to go through this whole court case again. I mean, their prosecutors are going to retry it. So they're going to, you know, have not go through.

I don't know how long that takes. And I've seen the documentary on the case and it's like, yeah, just, you know, brutal. Yeah, right.

“And then the other case was the Utah woman, Corey Richens, who was, I think, was yesterday was given life without the, you know, without parole.”

Right. Yeah, for murdering her husband by sipping fentanyl into a cocktail that she had made for him.

And then again, and then the thing was, and I've just recently watched that documentary like in the last month. Yeah, there's the 48 hours on it. I think that's CBS. That's probably what I watched. Yeah, I think that's what I watched.

And I watched it on Netflix, but it wasn't a Netflix documentary. The 48 hours also puts their stuff now. Their past seasons on if it's more than a season old, they put it on YouTube. I caught this one on YouTube. Yeah. And so I didn't know that.

I had seen, I've been watching 48 hours on Netflix. And I saw that case on Netflix. And then the other day, some other 48 hours episodes that I'd seen on Netflix.

“And I think it's when she was found guilty, then they replayed it.”

Yeah. They replayed it on YouTube and the update that she had, not where she was found guilty. And I played a guilty that she was found guilty. But that was the most bizarre one. I mean, you just, these are the things you just go, wow.

She wrote a book. Yeah. After she had murdered her husband about what it's like to lose your husband and how you survive it. And they actually had excerpts of her on television shows, talking about the grief and how you get over it. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. I, my God.

“I don't know why it is that people think they can get away with that.”

I saw another, it was a real life crime documentary. I watch a lot of real crime documentary stuff on YouTube and Netflix. My father being in law enforcement. But I think everybody has an interest in it. It's apparently, you know, does very well in podcasts and stuff.

And true crime type of documentaries. And I saw a one of the, one detective.

The first 48, which is a different show.

I've been watching a couple of episodes there, including a case right here in our backyard in Dallas. Texas and God plus those detectives and police officers and first responders that have to deal with such gruesome heinous things on a regular basis as a part of their job to get justice for families. But I saw one detective say when it's a stranger on stranger crime, it becomes very difficult for us and very hard because we don't know necessarily have a motive. Unless the house is ransacked and it looks like any, you know, a bunch of valuables were taken or something.

You know, like a jewelry box was emptied or or something like that or a safe was emptied. Then we can we can put it together when it is someone who knows the individual.

“Then we have a much greater chance and that's why we always start with in the investigation with the people that that were closest to the individuals.”

To the deceased. We start with that and say okay, you know, when did you last see this person. And quite frankly, when it's a husband or wife that passes.

They always start the investigation with the spouse because quite often there's a life insurance policy.

And so that that's the motivation as the immediate motivation. So I don't know how it is that people can get away or think they can get away with murdering. You know, someone they know and lot or supposed to love someone in their family or someone they're married to. That's to me it's a bizarre thought. But it's also the bizarre thought of you think you're going to get away with it.

Especially after she took out, I mean, the Cory Richens one, she took out $2 million in life insurance for her husband without his knowledge. Right? Right. You know, and and that was that was about money. Her business was she was house flipping and she was in massive debt.

Right. So she decided to kill her husband. I just don't know how you get to that point of, you know, I know that I could I know. I know me. I know that I. I would defend my life.

I'm not going to be like the, you know, see the articles here in the last week about about liberal and liberal.

Women who are forgiving people who commit crimes against them because we need to give them a second chance or because, you know,

what the hell is going on with liberal women. You know, well, it's how you get to defunding the police and everything else.

“And you and I go back to remember the one, it was a woman I believe.”

She said, well, and she said, no, I would, I would never, I would never use a gun or I would never, you know, I would just, I wouldn't defend my own life if they if they were there to take my life.

They just have to take my life. They just have to take my life because and I wouldn't use a gun. Well, I would. Yeah. And I know I would never want to be in that circumstance.

No, because it's not something. It's not a macho thing that I'm going to defend my life and I'm going to kill you and be glad I did it. It bothered the hell out of me that I took a life. Yeah. I mean, I would something that I'd be something that I would never get over.

But it would be something that I know I could handle if I knew I was defending myself from somebody who was trying to take my life.

I know I could, you know, but other than that, I can't even, it's just I value life so much that. Well, I guess I value my life in my life too or my family or friends if they were being attacked whatever. Yeah.

“And, you know, and that's where people I think a lot of people mistakenly don't understand why people are pro death penalty.”

It's not because they want to kill. Right. It's because they value life. Yes. And they're frustrated as we all are with murders that happen every day in this country.

Right. And you're looking for something can something be a deterrent. Right. That's not an immoral thought because the basis of it is you wish to protect life. But I can't imagine for any reason.

I, you know, and even if I, even if I could justify murder, which is really interesting because we live in this time, you know, with the, with Brian. Brian Thompson. Brian Thompson. You know, you know, now the, the left attempting to justify, you know, murder or political assassination. Right.

And, you know, I, I just, I, it's a, it's a, it's a date. It's a dangerous thing to be promoting that or. It's a dangerous thing for our society to be to that point. It's a very dangerous thing. Right.

But understand there's a lot of people that, you know, aren't going to let you do that to them. Right. Because they respect life and they cherish life.

But I do think that people who can justify the murder of someone else that basically, they don't, they don't love life.

No, there's no way you can if you don't value life and you don't value life. You don't value life. I've said this for the longest time. If you don't value life from the beginning, you don't value anything along the way, which means people's experiences. You don't, they're, they're, their value is a human, you know, as a person.

But beyond that, they're, they're value of their work and efforts along the way. We talk about and, and this goes, this does, you know, it is part of capitalism and what is this worth? What is that worth? And, and we should all have respect for, you know, people who are working hard and, and putting in the effort. And that's part of the system that we have.

You're getting paid for something, then you're actually putting literally a value on that time, right? On that experience, on that on that effort and education, whatever it might be. If you don't value life though from the beginning, then you can't value any of those things along the way. And in the end, I have to question what you do value. Yeah, you know, that's, that's a solid question, you know?

It's, if you don't value life, then if you could take someone else's life outside of self defense, right? Then tell me what it is you value or war, right? And there's a lot of, this is, you know, something that, that many veterans will tell you. In fact, you're a couple of my family, you know, serving at war time.

“It's not just about being attacked in the PTSD that comes with that, but also what your charge with doing, what you have to do, what your job is to do.”

And that is to, at times, take other lives. And that comes with a price. Those individuals and law enforcement, the same thing I have a friend who was on the swatching had to take somebody out. And he relied heavily on his faith, his church. And that's, he said of, of everything that was made available to me after that event.

There was a police officer used to listen to this show all the time who became friend of mine.

I met him, out somewhere. Yeah.

“And somebody pointed, you know, said, no, somebody, you sit with a bunch of people.”

So that's Gary McNamara. He goes, you're, he glistened all the time, work this shift in the Dallas area. And he had to, he had, in self defense as a police officer shot and killed a teenager. Yeah, he pointed to gun at him. Yeah. I don't think he ever got over it.

Right. No.

I don't see how you could.

He had, he had PTSD and everything else he admitted. I mean, it, it, it got to him, even though it was completely and totally justified. He, he passed away in, in an accident a couple of years ago. And, but I, just, I was, so because you could see, you could see the pain, you could see the pain in it. But when you talk about taking a life for profit.

But I, or, you know, and in that case. But even if I did, let me put it this way. And if I, even if I could justify murdering somebody from money with the technology that exists today, I wouldn't do it because the one thing that I know I couldn't handle would be to be alive and in a jail cell. My dad, the, the best, the best investigator that I personally known.

I might be by some, but he taught law enforcement criminal investigation along with his military law enforcement experience.

I, he, he always said it.

Actually, it was, uh, the locker V, uh, flight, the locker V bombing. He said, there's always something. You got to find it. But there's always something. There's always a piece of evidence.

And now into, to your point, and with today's technology, you know, there's, there's always something. You're never going to get away with it. It does, the moment you think you can, you're done.

“But the fact is it starts with again, if you don't value life.”

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“Have you noticed that the left doesn't talk about we need to be like Sweden anymore?”

There's a reason. There's a reason. Wall Street Journal had an article on it and we'll get to that here in a little bit. Plus we'll get to Bernie Sanders saying congratulations to Mayor Mundani. He inherited a huge budget deficit brought it down to zero and still invested in childcare housing and city infrastructure.

When municipal governments stand with families, not corporations, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That went on for about an hour yesterday before he was absolutely blasted. Yeah. That's how it actually happened. I'm here reading here from REFlicer. What nonsense is this?

I'm Donnie didn't do anything. No, all he did was change assumptions and projections. Mundani is actually one of the least consequential Mayor's New York City has ever had.

He's socialist agenda, lacks support, even in New York City.

“But you saw that and we talked about the shutdown here kicking in another eight billion.”

I did tell my brother today I said, well, he goes, Mundani goes, did he really balance? I don't know, he's just taking more money from you. Right, exactly. You're paying for it, I've stayed. Yeah, governors making sure that you take care of New York City.

Yeah, congratulations to all the other people in New York that don't live in the city. Yeah. Get rid of radio live every night on the runny radio app available in the app store. Reddit online for radio. And I'm hearing that coming along with Eric Hurley.

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“Is it officially tomorrow that he takes over the 15th?”

I think it is. I think it is officially. Oh, by the way, thanks to everybody on LinkedIn. Apparently LinkedIn, you know, if you put in where you work and when you started,

it promotes it at your anniversary. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's as of.

And I think I, you know, it started doing it a couple days ago,

but yeah, I was I arrived in in Dallas 26 years ago. The 12th. And I started on the the air doing my local show at WBAP. 26 years ago tomorrow. Wow.

Yeah, crazy. I've been here a long time. Wow. And I must say I've gotten used to the heat. It was a hot day yesterday.

Yeah. And that was actually after I had to get to some some power work done, but after I got home in the afternoon, actually was pedaling around outside. I'm like, I like this eat.

It must, it must not have been human. I don't like the humanity, but I was, yeah, okay, this is all right, summer. And then, and then another two months from now.

“I'm like, are we to middle of September or October yet?”

Let's go. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, we're not even in the in the real heat just yet. But we're getting there. But thank you to so many people listeners and everything to follow me.

I'm linked in that said, all of a sudden, I'm like, why do I got so many responses on? This is linked in. Yeah. I'm on LinkedIn once every what?

Couple of years. Maybe. Yeah. I'm like, what are all these responses? Oh.

Oh. Okay. So congratulations on your anniversary. Yeah. Yeah.

I get that. So for being here in Texas are our anniversary for working together will be 21 years on July 15th. Right. Yeah.

And my 30 year. With this job goes is December of this year. 30 years. I remember Hal J. A great friend of mine and great morning host there.

WBAP our flagship asking me. The morning that. My late cohost Bill Mack. We started the all night show on WBAP back in 69 retired from WBAP. On the air that morning, how last me after our show and I was sitting in with him.

He asked me.

Are you going to be here 32 years?

And it was just the quickest. No idea. You're doing overnight 32 years. No. Well, I'm going to hit 30 and I hope I'm here for 32.

I hope I'm here for 35. I'd love to be here for 40. I don't want to. I really don't want to give this up. The liberals are making it too hard.

Every day they make it harder.

“I think that's going to be my conundrum.”

Is that at some point we all retired. And at some point, I'll have to hang it up. You know, when I, you know, crack the mic and just keep screaming. You kids get out of my yard.

It's like, okay, time to give it up.

And it's going to be so hard. That's going to be, I think the liberals are doing this on purpose. Just to get back at me. It's a personal thing. But no, it's going to be the hardest thing to do.

Because who knows how insane it will be. By the way, who knows how insane it will be. This July. Forget about years later when I retire. You know, and you probably can relate to this.

I remember a listener, this was back a few years coming up to me insane. What does it feel like to be Gary McNamara? Yeah, I've had people ask me the same thing. What does it feel like to be Gary McNamara? I think it's like, I'm blank stare.

I'll tell you, I can't get his credit cards to the work.

I know I do other than that.

Answer that question. But yeah. What, you know, and I said, oh, you're talking about being a, you know, doing this being a radio show host podcast and doing this for a significant period of time. And the only answer that I had for him.

And I, you may agree with this, you may not. I'm not sure. But the vast majority of my career. Not that I didn't enjoy it.

“But the fact is, this is a very cut throat tough business.”

Yeah, it is. I mean, it's a, it's a very cut throat tough business. And the mindset even if you're enjoying it was survival. Yeah. And it wasn't until just a few years ago.

It was working with you and getting to a certain point, which really began when you and I started doing, you know, you and I started working together. But, but really when, you know, probably agree with this, when it became right eye.

Yeah. Right. Which would have been in 2012. Yeah. In in in 2012.

Right. As successions of management that that we work for. That has shown absolute trust in us without question. Yeah. And I've really, I was sick in the other day.

Really, it's been about 13 years now. Where I've had the most fun and the mindset is completely different. Because you learn after, you know, year after year after year after year after year after year of the pressure, the pressure doesn't matter anymore. You've dealt with it for such a long time.

Right. But for such a long time, you're just attempting to survive. Yeah. The next week, the next month, the next rating book, whatever. You're not that it wasn't enjoyable.

But the focus was completely completely different. Yeah.

“And that's why when I first came on this show and I told the story,”

this is not my goal is to stay a year. And my goal was get national radio show experience. And then catapult to something else. I'm not going to stay with this doofus error. That was high goal too for you to stay a year.

I had that written in my contract no more than one year. Gary can stay no more than one year. Okay, fine. So we were in agreement on that. Yeah.

And we, and we knew within a week, didn't we? It was really a week where we had something. We can't explain why. We didn't know why we had the chemistry. I don't think I've ever attempted to analyze it.

I had friends in radio and we tried with one of those friends off the air, the best chemistry and very funny. And we tried to work together on the air. Didn't fly. And we were still good friends today.

It just didn't work. You can't create that kind of chemistry. It just kind of has to be there. And just especially when we're doing what we do here.

Yeah. Right. We play him now. No, I think, I think I told him a couple months ago.

“The best thing you ever did in your career was.”

That's right. This is the best thing you've ever built. Put that on your wall. And he's retired now. Bob, Bob retired a few years ago.

Yeah. Great. Yeah. And I'll never forget. It's just so funny when when he hired me.

Because this is my, you know, this is my 26th anniversary being in Texas. And doing the local show. And that's what he hired me for. Right.

I'll never forget the meeting where, you know, he just, he said.

He said, well, I'm not going to offer the job. And I said, OK, he said, because I've offered you two jobs before, which he did. He'd offered me a job in Albuquerque. And he'd offered me a job in Madison, Wisconsin. I don't know.

Probably the politics. But I did work in Portland before I came here. So I mean, but. And he said, I'm not going to offer you the job because I've offered you the twice already. A job twice already.

And you've turned me down. I'm not going to have you turn me down a third time. Yeah. He said, so it's in your hands. And I just said, OK.

Yeah, because we had talked about you to field, because I came in and filled in for a couple of days. You know, for the great Marque Davis. Right. And.

And I said, yeah, I felt real comfortable. Like, it was why I'm not going to offer you a job. You're going to have to tell me that you wanted. We're just sports bar. It was like, it was, say, Patrick's day of, of a 2000.

Right. And I said, if you offer me a job, I'll take it. And then I think the next thing probably was what happened. We haven't discussed pay. And I said, well, if I want you and you want me, that can be worked out.

And it was, I mean, yeah. Right. And then two months later, I was here. So. It's like I said, it's really interesting that I, you know, when I look back.

And, and, and so I never.

I never thought I'd be working at this age ever. I didn't, I didn't see this coming at all. And now my plan was 59 and a half. I've told you. Yes.

I don't know how many times. Yeah. Yeah.

“And, and so for me, I, I just, I remember when I was, when I started the show at 50, the only thing I thought of.”

Yeah. Okay. Every tire at 65 or 66. Yeah. You know, whatever.

I think it was 66 years and two months was mine. And I said, and I'm going to go out and I'll play golf every day. And I'll go up to New York and, you know, visit everybody during the house. Visit everybody during the holidays and golf during the summer and ski during the winter. Yeah.

Then I got to be that age and realize physically. I could, it's a ton of stuff I can do. I can ride the bike. I can, you know, I can swim. I can play some golf.

But the joints are gone. Yeah. You know, I can't be, you know, I can still. I've got great heart, great lungs, all that. And I still work out, you know, very heavily.

But you just can't, you can't pound on the, the joints anymore. You just, but, and then I realized with it, when I got to that age, I can't do that. It's like, well, what am I going to do? Well, I'll also stay working for a couple more years. And now that's an addiction.

Now this is, well, no, this is what I want to do. This is, this is my, my hobby. Yeah, I would rather do this than anything else. I love getting my guitar out and playing it. Yeah.

I love hanging out with my wife when we get the time to do that. And we don't get as much time as we'd like to do that. I just adore my wife more and more every day. But in terms of my personal hobby, this, this is my life. Yeah.

And that is going to be, at some point, the conundrum. Yeah. And, you know, it's going to be years from now. That's not any more close. But I, because I'm going to be sitting around yelling at my TV,

or I'm going to be traveling somewhere and somebody's going to say, Hey, did you hear what happened? And I won't know what happened because I turned off all my notifications to stay sane. And I'll say no. And then they'll tell me and they'll go, dang it.

What, what I like is, you know, every time we sign and, and it was a year and a half ago, whatever, a year ago, whatever, we signed our last contract and like the first question. You're going to continue after this one. Okay.

Yeah. Because I can't, there's just nothing else I can imagine doing. And that's a difference.

It's always been fun to be on the air.

But it was work and there was pressure. And now it's just fun. Everything about this job is fun.

“And I think part of it is the repetition.”

And when you deal with pressure, whatever. And realize what doesn't matter. Why do I think about the pressure? It's going to be there. Just you let it go as you mature.

I, you know, I have friends that have retired.

One was an executive at Dell, and he's retired.

“Other guys in construction, they're retired.”

But doing what we do, I don't want to not do this. Yeah. Exactly. So I'm, yeah. I'm 26 here in here in Texas tomorrow.

Yeah. All right. Wow. Yeah. Eventually I am blessed.

Yeah. You are. And welcome to Texas.

And you're blessed to have.

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Look at the mayor's Seattle. She's an absolute socialist. Yeah. Yeah. And he just blasted.

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Hello America, Mark Levin here. Many people seem to be incubating a rage looking for somewhere to go.

“Are there times when you think the country is out of control?”

Do you see all these things? And you wonder, what in the world is going on? What's it this way? Five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago. Do we have the will or not?

But we are Americans. And I believe we absolutely do have the will. I do this show for you. And when you're not interested anymore, I will just go away.

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