05-19-26 Part One - Who Created Who?

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Let's start out with some insanity, OK?

OK. I mean, wow, like start out. We're going to start out. It'll be a little end, and then the end. It's pretty much been the show for a while now,

nothing but insanity. All right, what's coming up out of MSN now? I don't know. All right, ready for this one? OK.

Just when you think they can't go any further. All right. Just when you ask yourself, all right, since they can't win on the issues,

“what type of convoluted thinking it comes out of their mouths?”

Yeah. Right. Here we go. Ready for this? OK.

And this is concerning Mike Johnson, the other day, talking about that in our country

rights are derived not from the government, but they come from the creator. Right. That's in the Declaration of Independence. Yes. Right.

Ready? All right. What about this passage from Mike Johnson declaring that our rights do not derive from government. They come from you, our creator, and Heavenly Father,

is this him putting God over the Declaration of Independence? He's confusing it with content creator. I mean, do we have to-- we do, right? We've got to explain. Somebody has to explain it to her, right?

I mean, it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to-- how do you get--

“how do you get to a national TV show, even if it's MSN now?”

I mean, it just shows that they're running out of arguments. Right. Yeah. Because as we know, is this him putting God over the Declaration of Independence? Well, the Declaration of Independence is what lays out

that your rights come from the creator. I mean, it's just-- and this, as you think, she's thinking content creator. I-- I-- I thought it's-- Well, we thought our rights came from you.

Are you to an influencer? Right. Or does she think creator means the creator as in the founders of the country? The people who wrote the Constitution.

Oh, I don't know. I don't know. The one-- not even the people who put the ideas together, just the guy who wrote it down with his little feather pin. He was the-- he's just-- he's like the clerk.

He's a court clerk, and he's just writing it down. Hey, hold on, slow down, guys.

“So you're telling me that Thomas Jefferson was a creator?”

Here was a-- Let's play it one more time, all right? Oh, no, we've got to play one more time. This could be the audio cut of the week. It's-- and it's only Tuesday now.

Tuesday, now. [LAUGHTER] You're really going out in a limb, aren't you? Well, like, well, right here we actually-- Yeah, yeah, I am.

Right here we go, and go ahead and play it again. So what about this passage from Mike Johnson declaring that our rights do not derive from government? They come from you, our creator, and Heavenly Father is-- is this him putting God over the declaration of independence?

Huh. And just gets, and this is just gets blasted. You know, another batch of proud public education graduates, then a bunch of these, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,

with certain unalienable rights.

“And less, it's the alien in an alienable”

with-- you know, you see Jesse Waters? Yeah, yeah. They say the aliens are here. They've got lizard tails. Since when did he-- it was he at one point,

an editor of the weekly world news. That's a nice defunct, I mean, maybe, but maybe. But maybe they believe that the creator is aliens because of unalienable rights. Maybe.

We had any pills that we can pop here. Since everybody is doing some kind of drug, can we just have a taste of it? I mean, what's it like to live in that-- Or does she think creator means our parents?

We have to explain it.

You know, the question inevitably comes up.

Well, do we have to explain it? It seems like we do. I didn't even listen to the rest of the-- I want to play the rest of the audio cut. Let's start from the beginning.

I didn't even get past that. I didn't have to. But I've not listened to the rest of this. OK, OK. All right.

Turn up. All right. So I'm assuming that some of us now there was no cursing on it. Yeah, I'm assuming.

Use stupid, blank, any blank.

“Don't you know the damn declaration of independence?”

All right, here we go. All right. What about this passage from my Johnson declaring that our rights do not derive from government? They come from you, our creator, and Heavenly Father

is this him putting God over the declaration of independence? OK. Well, I actually think that that idea is not wholly uncommon. I mean, the idea that we have certain inalienable rights that come from God can be right in a fairly benign way,

which is basically that we have innate human rights

that our constitution and our government, our democratic government, are meant to codify, right? That idea is not totally abnormal. I think that the thing that might alarm some people is some of the rhetoric that we heard at this rally

that we are in a spiritual battle, right? That-- OK, he gets off the topic. Yeah, yeah, he's trying to do his helper out here. He's trying to do what you listen to just there

is he's trying to help sweep her stupidity under the carpet. Yeah. And this was on the show, we, the people. Great. Yeah, the show is called, is the show called--

Let me just see, is it we that-- Or is that the name? Oh, no, that's-- They're promoting another show. OK, they're promoting another show, they're OK.

All right. So yeah, that's where there was a-- they're running ads for the other shows on MSNow wouldn't it be them, they, the people? Yes, it's.

You're going to use the proper pronouns. I don't-- I don't-- Yeah, I don't know what to say except for it. Because he's trying to--

you see him trying to soft explain it. You know, like, no, no, we pretty much all get-- what he's saying is, if you break down what he's saying, it's kind of common, you know, everybody that's not out of the-- But he's trying to say it's everybody in the world.

But you knows what it mean. Yeah, that was-- that was a soft sell answer, or a soft, yeah. Yeah, he was trying to cushion the bloke here, and then help her relate, essentially, her point, with a bizarre point that really didn't apply.

Yeah. But I just love-- It's not totally abnormal to think that-- Yeah. --like, in fact, it's come from the--

Yeah, not completely into-- it might be a little abnormal, but it's not completely and totally abnormal. Well, I've been saying 250 years. You're the only one who doesn't get it.

Wow. It's trying to put God over the declaration of independence. Oh, my God.

“I've got another one here, and this is where I think that this”

is a Bill Mar with Will I Am. OK, the creator of the Obama song. Right, on his drinking podcast. OK. His drinking and smoking podcast.

All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. All right, and just watch how he-- because I would have blasted Will I Am. I wouldn't have just been like, here we go.

They don't have freedom.

Their people are not free in a police state.

And when you don't have that, their freedom is different. Their need of freedom is different than our need of freedom. No, not all. That's kind of patronizing to say what another person's need of freedom is freedom.

I think they-- I think they-- maybe they don't know. Maybe they're so brainwashed at this point. They don't know how much freedom they need.

“But I think people you're in for freedom”

and they don't have. No, except for example, you come from a place that was war torn. And you want to be free from that. That's different from I want to be free to do something

that is not at the same level. So not every freedom. I just got to stop because I'm looking at Eric's face. And that's-- Well, let me just finish your rest here.

Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Bill Mark couldn't have just-- again, this is not wanting to embarrass your guest. Right, that's how I look at this. Here we go.

Is this any freedom? Sometimes you want to be free from tyranny. You want to be free from people in the Congo. You want to be free from that thumb, that oppression. People in America's freedom is a different freedom.

And to say they're the same, that's not fair to the folks that are truly suffering. I agree. I mean, we are lucky. We have-- we complain about freedom

and some of those complaints, of course, are valid. And certainly in history, they're tremendously valid.

“But the perspective is important to compare ourselves”

to what the rest of the human race has done with this concept is important. And we generally have more freedom here than many, many people do. Well, say, we're not-- But in the same will I am, will you're right?

He wasn't right. No freedom is freedom. There are different scenarios where you wish to be free, but freedom is freedom. Well, he mentioned a tyrannical government.

Look at the foundation of this country, yeah, exactly. That's what we thought for. It's why we're free. Well, it's the same freedom we achieved and they have not.

Well, what's the second amendment about?

Right. What's the first amendment about? You know, when you look at-- when you look at the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the United States was set up.

And it's interesting because the Constitution in the beginning, the Declaration of Independence, actually laid out the oppressive government that we were under, under Great Britain. And so for him to try, again, when you start talking

about what their need for freedom is different than our need for freedom, that reminded me of, remind me of the Vietnam War. That's the substitute teacher. Well, there's really no difference between communism.

That's the kind of government that they wish to live under. There's no difference between communism and a constitutional republic that we live in. Now, remember, as I told the story before in 10th grade,

that got me kicked out of class when I told the teacher she was wrong and sent up to the principal's office for in subordination, where the principal, who was one of my father's best friends growing up, said, what the hell you're doing here?

And I told him, so you got sent up to the principal's office for in subordination for telling the substitute teacher that a constitutional republic is not the same as communism. I went, yep, why did he go sit over there?

And she never, she was never there again.

“Why didn't Bill Mar sent him to the principal's office?”

Because that was, we're just being stupid. Because it was a stupid answer. And why didn't Bill Mar to the serious point, correct him on that and stop him? What has ever stopped Bill Mar lately,

especially on his podcast, after he's had a few, actually this could be early in the podcast, I don't know. And stop him go, no, no, no, no, we've fought. You want to talk about war torn, revolutionary war. It's what started all of this and what achieved all of this?

250 years ago, so what do you not see? What do you not get when you look at it? The entire thing is I would go, you know, you're pretty clueless because the constitution, the United States was set up, so this wouldn't happen.

Right, you know, when you look at it, all the debates that we have today are really the same as anybody who's fighting tyranny. They're not any different. No, the whole concept of the separation of powers, the whole concept of the electoral college,

the entire concept of the Senate, all those were based on ensuring

that they weren't controlled.

It's representation that changes everything. Yeah, it's knowing that you have, at least, you don't have the total voice because you're not a dictator. I'm not a dictator, you're not a dictator, but the smaller states have two senators in a bicameral legislature.

That means two legislators, the House and the Senate, in order to ensure that every part of the country has representation. So they don't feel like that they're under the tyranny of the popular vote of the majority, which we saw in Virginia. You saw that if you want the perfect example, that was Virginia.

Virginia was the Democrats trying to get 51% of the state controlling 90% of the vote and the other 49% getting 10%. That was the entire point about why we set up the government that we set up here in the United States.

But will I am completely and totally clueless? You know, the thing is, you mean Bill Marb said times.

“And a lot of people do them because I think everybody's running out of gas”

that they just bring on stupid people. They bring on celebrities that are absolutely clueless. And how many of you brought on? Who was it that you talked with him? Where are you?

You're in a bubble. Oh, it was a Pat Noswald. Yeah, and there was somebody else too. They were like just a few weeks apart where he said to another celebrity.

You're just living, you live in that bubble. Yeah, you're even known, that's not what's going on. This is what's going on. Oh, I did know that. Oh, I did know that.

Oh, I did know that. Because all you do is sit on blue sky all day. Well, I mean, that gibberish from will I am. What have been shredded immediately. I know.

How do you think we got here? My gosh.

“It's, well, that's what you and I do for living.”

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We are representing Gregory Meek's Democrat from New York pounding at a hearing about the fact that we need to subpoena all these people in the government about what's going on with the ran. Okay. Here we go. Listen to this. And then Brian Mass, representing Brian Mass, hits back.

Here we go. I moved that this committee issued subpoenas to compare the testimonies of Secretary Marco Rubio of Mr. Steve Wiccoth and Mr. Jared Kushner as at a public house for an affairs committee hearing before the end of April 2026. So we members of Congress and the American people can hear from them directly on the most pressing international security manifests in Americans today. President Trump's war of choice and Iran.

“Well, I would encourage you if you want to know more about what's taking place with the activities in Iran or anywhere else.”

Feel free to attend any one of our fly-in day classified briefings which you basically don't attend at all.

And we had a classified briefing just last week with INR. We showed up 45 minutes late to that. Had you been on time, you might know a little bit more. I'd also encourage you that when we have the classified briefings with Secretary Rubio. That you show up, I mean we're running on time but it doesn't show up anything you don't be here.

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And he is our running, I'm hearing McNamara. Welcome and good morning, download our Red Eye Radio app today and you can listen. What in where you choose? Well, the president went on through social yesterday and said that, well, actually today that the United States was going to go back in. That was the plan, that was the plan to go back to Iran again.

And he's been convinced by a number of the countries in the Middle East not to do it because negotiations are going on. Here's part of what he had to say when he was asked about that true social post later on in the day. Well, other countries have come to me and they've said we were getting ready to do a very major attack tomorrow. I put it off for a little while, hopefully maybe forever, but possibly for a little while. Because we've had very big discussions with Iran and we'll see what they amount to.

I was asked by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UA and some others. If we could put it off for two or three days, they should period of time because they think that they are getting very close to making a deal.

“And if we can do that where there's no nuclear weapon going into the hands of Iran, I think, and if they're satisfied, we will be probably satisfied also.”

We've informed Israel, we've informed other people in the Middle East that have been involved with us. And it's a very positive development, but we'll see whether or not it amounts to anything. We've had periods of time where we had we thought pretty much getting close to making a deal and didn't work out. But this is a little bit different, now we're ready going tomorrow, very big. And not something I wanted to do, but we have no choice because we can not let Iran have a nuclear weapon.

You know, one thing is it's funny because it's all in the New York Post, somebody asked him a question.

They said, you said that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon, but you've said 20 years.

Yeah, right. Now, and he just said, well, I really can't get into it because there's too many things going out of the negotiation.

“Well, it's interesting because I was thinking the same thing on the 20 year thing I was thinking, what does he mean?”

And if he does see somebody needs to explain it, if he means the following that, well, I'll no longer be president in 20 years. And so at the very least, it would take them 20 years to rebuild it if they were going to acquire. Let's say we got enriched uranium from them, got it all for them to acquire it and build their programming. I know it's impossible to know what it is. Or you have a deal because if you say 20 years, you know, because I also saw the other thing, the quote he had yesterday, where he said, well, they said.

He said that it's been so destroyed that they really, you know, it would take them, you'd take them years again to start a nuclear program. They go, well, then why do you still want to go in and do it? He said, because more public relations that he can't sell that. Saw that yesterday and I went, oh, that he can't sell an attack. I mean, no, he can't sell a deal. He can't sell a deal where, you know, a deal where we go in there and guard it or do whatever we have to do. Oh, he said that really, he said that isn't necessary.

Right. That isn't really because it's, it's been so much destroyed that if it just left there would take another whatever decades, whatever to rebuild that site. They can't actually get, get to it. I don't know, again, that's the, I only saw that in, in one quote yesterday.

But let's hear what this is on the Fox News panel yesterday with Brithum and Brett Bear. Here's what Brithum had to say.

But that truth social was really interesting. He named specifically the leaders of Qatar and the UAE and Saudi Arabia. Almost to say, these are the leaders that you are attacking and they are the ones that have told me to postpone to try to get a deal. And I'm going to do that. So maybe providing them a little cover from Iran as they've been the focus of attacks.

And we've been around the Iran on this. They keep saying, you know, present keeps pausing, waiting for offers. And they haven't come close to making it offer that he could accept.

“Maybe this town will be different. We can all hope for that.”

In the meantime, it's pretty clear that he's ready to let him have it again. If nothing of any substance or meaning or acceptability comes through, I'm not, I'm not prepared to bet that something good will come. You know, one of the things we we said is when the president speaks, I don't know what to believe and what not to believe.

Because you're always throwing out during a war, messages that are meant for the enemy and not necessarily your domestic audience.

But the one thing is the president, you know, he said it again in the comment that we played a couple of minutes ago, he said, you know, we've been very close to points. No, they haven't very close to a deal. Yeah. Yeah. I know it.

“It's never been and that's what you said they've never, they've never been close to a deal.”

Well, and now is it to, was that, do you say that to encourage them or say, look, you know, we're, we're willing, because this is the one thing I saw the other day too that you've got a lot of these people there in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard that are looking to get out to Russia.

I want to, if if they decide because just like anybody, they're looking at, okay, what's the second option, what's the third option, what's the fourth option?

Right. So they're looking to go to Russia. Right. You know, they want to be able to, these leaders want to get out because as we have said, one of the problems here negotiating is the fact that, you know, if you're saying you have no nuclear weapons. I guess that's, that's the red line before it was, you know, we hope that the people revolt or whatever. That doesn't, at this moment look like it's going to happen. It might, it doesn't look like at this particular moment. So besides saying, we guard and we get, you know, the, the nuclear stuff, whatever.

The plutonium, uranium, whatever, rich uranium, whatever, whatever, what else does he want? What else is the deal besides that? What else is there? Well, I think if you get the uranium.

“I think that seals the deal for, again, a couple of decades, probably in terms of rebuilding the progress, but you're asking, like, is there a commitment beyond that?”

No, that he wants to know. My point is when he says we've been close to a deal, well, that's the only thing there've been negotiating really.

No, that's really it. Yeah, they're not negotiating that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is going to step down.

Right. So here's my question. Brett bears started that question to Brett Hume with a point on in the truth social post. He starts out by naming their actual names, right, or in the post, right, of each of those countries. He starts with the leader of Qatar and in Saudi and the president of the UAE. And you're looking, you're looking at something where he's not doing the generalized lead, I just spoke with leaders in the region of other Middle Eastern nations, and we're working on something, right, when there's this over generalization.

Sometimes it's okay, all right, yeah, maybe that's going on and he's not going to be specific for whatever reason, but he was specific in this case on their names. He was calling them out. So he's laying that out there. And then, you know, at the end, if we don't get a deal, we're going in hard. Well, my question would be, could this deal be those other nations, because he mentioned them, and it calls them friends and allies, let's see. I've been asked by the, uh, a mirror of Qatar, the Crown Prince of Saudi, and the president of the United Arab Emirates to hold off on our planned military attack on Iran, which was scheduled for tomorrow, and that serious negotiation.

Now taking place that in their opinion as great leaders and allies, a deal will be made.

I mean, no, no, I'm not an ally of Iran.

“Yeah, that's what I thought, but when I was thinking about that, I thought, okay, but because I assume it's, it's us.”

But if do, do they believe these nations could facilitate handing over the uranium to them, not to US or Israel? I guess, I mean, it would have to be under Trump, from what Trump has said, he's not unless the US is the one that inspects and does it. It's not going to happen. I mean, we would still have oversight, yeah, of the, you know, to make sure, because I believe we know down to the, you know, last container. I don't know, I don't know if the, the countries in the Middle East would want to be put in that position.

I would think that in order to play nice in the Middle East, they would want the United States to be, they'd agree to do it with the United States. You know, okay, this is what we, you know, we've helped broker this agreement or whatever, because who's doing the agreement now? If, if the, if these five, if these was a five six allies, you know, in the Middle East, five countries in the Middle East, if they're all saying that hold on, who's negotiating now with them? Who's doing the negotiation? Are we doing the negotiation? Or are they doing the negotiation?

Well, and he says, you know, a deal will be made, which will be acceptable. This is in his true social posts, which will be acceptable to the US as well as countries, all countries in the Middle East and beyond. Yeah. I would think that, you know, I don't think they'd want to mess with it. They let the US get the blame, you know, for everything. The deal will include, importantly, in all caps here, no nuclear weapons or Iran. Well, that can only mean that they have no more enriched uranium. Well, my point is, does it?

“No, it has to. I mean, that's the only way that it really gets, but the enriched uranium itself is not, I'm parsing words, it's not a nuclear weapon.”

Oh, you're on the technicality side, yeah. Now, technically, no, we don't have one. Well, because when I saw the president say yesterday that, you know, they said, well, look, it's already been destroyed. They can't, you know, they can't, they can't do anything with these things to begin with.

But, you know, we've got, basically, I've got to find the exact words in the US. It wasn't imagery, but, you know, I can't sell this, this, I can't sell this deal.

You know, I can't sell a deal unless we get it back, even though we've left it inoperable. I'm not sure where he was going with that. I didn't know. Yeah, I mean, reading this true social was, I read it several times piece by piece, basically broken down as we're doing right now yesterday when he posted it. Because it's hard to know. Well, first of all, we're not going to know everything, no, but the fact that he named these leaders.

“I think basically he's there could be that is in part and attempt to kind of put this on them to make a deal that would be acceptable to us. Hey, we're going to see if they can do it.”

And which is understandable because, again, as we pointed out, they haven't been close to a deal. Yeah, anywhere close. Because what's the deal? The deal is no nuclear weapons. That's it. I mean, there really is. How do you get to find that? Yeah, I don't know. And the thing would be, no nuclear weapons, there's a lot more points of what Iran wants. Right.

Yeah. You know, what do we get? What do we get? The negotiations? What do we get? Well, because if we can't have any enriched uranium, our plutonium is gone, and there's no way. And you can monitor us for the next 20 years. What do we get in return? You get full funding.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard is still there.

You get full funding. You can use all your oil money, which will they will then use for their proxies to continue to attack the American interest. That's the exact point I was going to make. So, okay, let's say we could really guarantee no nooks. But if they're back in the oil game, they have funding for their proxies. Yep. We are right. I radio.

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The one thing that we did say last week was that this week, you're probably going to see, you know, something happened. Now, the president said, what? Two or three days here, which means by the end of the week by, by, you know, by Friday.

“How long do you keep, you know, saying things like Iran wants to deal?”

Iran doesn't want to deal. They may be forced to a deal. They don't want to deal. Yeah. Right. You know, there's no indication of that. Right. And there's no indication that they've ever been close to a deal. Hopefully they get there.

But there's no indication at this moment based on what the president said when he said they were, you know, very close to a deal. And then Iran wants a deal, only for it to blow up spectacularly. Right. Exactly. You know, like, oh, we're not even close. They don't want even close. They don't want even. And it's like, well, then, then don't believe them. Right.

I saw it was at the Elliott Abrams wrote the thing. Well, now that the terrorists have taken over Iran, it's like, what do you mean now that the terrorists have taken over Iran?

Right. If I've always been there.

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[upbeat music] All across America, we are what I radio. He is air-curning, I'm Gary McNamara. Good morning. How's everybody doing? How's it going? I hope you're a Tuesdays going well, so far. Let's hear from Mimdani.

All right. Okay, here's the latest. All right, here we go. I cannot help but think of the words of our 40th President Ronald Reagan. He famously said the nine most terrifying words in the English language,

or I'm from the government, and I'm here to help. It's a good quote, but I disagree.

“I think nine more terrifying words are actually I worked all day and can't feed my family.”

There you go. And that's him promoting his grocery store. By the way, people keep repeating the news.

It was all over the place that Mundani says he's going to open the first grocery store

by next year. That's a month old. Yeah, that's a month old. We talked about it. That's already out there.

It's like, I'm like, is it me? Am I on something? Right. How am I saw this story a month ago? Oh, they're just repeating it again.

Yeah, right. It's like, no, there's a lot of that going on right now. But, and they're right now for that one store alone. They're way over budget. Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's, well, it's interesting because a couple of audio cuts to follow that up. You know, and when you talk about a socialist communist like Mundani and why it doesn't work. In fact, let's go to Jamie Diamond CEO of JPMorgan Chase. Okay. All right.

Here we go. About American taxes. Right. Yep. Here we go.

I don't know anyone. Okay. And you guys in the room, you don't be Democrats for public opinion. Who thinks is spending that sending another trillion dollars to Washington D.C. will actually improve anything. So when you say raised taxes, I, if you said raised taxes and directly give it to the people in it.

I can do it. No. Yeah. We're running out of time.

It's always interest groups.

You know, they give it to their friends and all that. Which is why the people are considered a swamp. It's kind of a swamp. You know, the 17,000 lobbying groups. But bank companies are guilty too.

They're just fighting for the oneself interests as opposed to what's good for my country.

“But, you know, that's what happens in Congress.”

You know, and you see these buildings get spent, like the chipsack was a good idea. Until, you know, it was, it was, it had to be union in place, pays, child care, diapers, you know, what, what the hell are we doing? Well, that's the, the point. And this is interesting because this is, and I believe this is a little while ago,

but I want to play this because this is somebody who I always viewed as the utmost Democrat liberal. For reads, for reads of Karria. Yeah. All right.

And here he is, okay, on, on CNN talking about Democrat cities. Here we go.

Blue cities are out of control, promising more, spending more, delivering less,

“and pushing off the fiscal problems to some future day.”

Take Los Angeles, another one party metropolis, wrestling with affordability and disorder. The city's homelessness budget for fiscal year 2025, 26, totals about $915 million. The LA Homelessness Services Authority reported that in 2023, homelessness was up 9% countywide and 10% in the city. And a 2024 AP account noted that homelessness has surged 70% countywide since 2015 and 80% in the city.

All this amid public frustration despite billions spent. An audit reviewed 2.4 billion in city homelessness funding, and found that officials could not reliably track where it went or what it achieved. Or take Chicago with a mayor who's approval rating is deep underwater, where the pension promises are so large that they will surely bankrupt the city at some point.

What is the theory of good government here?

If the answer is keep adding programs, the city will keep producing unaffordability,

because unaffordability is what happens when government becomes a machine that grows faster than the society aid governance. Zora Mombani's basic instinct is correct. Focus on affordability, especially housing, but not by providing government subsidies. These only seem to have driven up the cost of rent as subsidies naturally do. Well, I mean, intentions are meaningless.

Right. It's how you get there. Right. I mean, the road to Lubbock is paved with good intentions. Well, not all of it's paved. That's a great point.

That's a solid point. No, I believe we love Lubbock. I believe there.

“Yes, I believe you can get to Lubbock on all paved roads.”

You can, but I think it's a toll road. Anyway. Well, it is taxes. The other day, I went to a music festival. The wildflower music festival in Richardson.

So I had to go down six, that a hippie thing or it sounds like one doesn't it? Yeah, it does. Well, I actually wasn't going to go at first because I just wanted to see one band. Right. Just one band that I just absolutely loved.

Don't take the brown cholesterol medicine. [LAUGHTER]

Well, I thought it was in a, I always thought it was like in a big field.

And it's not. Oh, you know, it's basically in the huge courtyards between buildings. And it's really, really cool. Okay. No, that's cool.

And you know, vendors and, and, and everything else. And I did see. Ty died. Was there Ty died? Did you see any?

Ty died? No, none. Zero. Flowers? No.

I saw a couple of, remember the band lit? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And whatever that style was, then I saw a guy in a girl that was waiting for, because the band that I liked played before them, a band that was called Motorcade, which is a great band.

One of the best bands I've heard in decades or first two albums are just incredible.

Yeah. And so I went just to see them. And it was fun. Because they went, you just came to see us. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm heading home because I know the, I know the guys in the band. I'm heading home after this. They only play like once or twice a year. You know, it's a, and, but they're two albums.

I just love. But, but lit that band and I didn't stay.

“They're one, funny thing is they sound, when I saw lit, I go, yeah, you know?”

I remember that hit. I like the toadies. You're just the number of people waiting to see lit that had toadies T-shirts on. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Toadies is kind of a local band. I mean, they're from this area. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The possum kingdom was there. Right. Which is the name of a lake. Right.

In this, in this region. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It was funny because I was swimming and fishing there as a kid.

I don't know how many times. Well, I know woman one time. She was just, the toadies. So toadies are coming. The toadies, the toadies.

Yeah. I'm like, I just never looked at her as somebody who would like, you know, the toadies. Yeah. Well, her whole family's from possum kingdom. Yeah.

Well, no, there is, there is, they haven't. It's, if they play, their fans are there, man. They play. It's, it's crazy. Well, well, to get there and get back, I had going 635.

Yeah. Now, I've never used, you know, when they've rebuilt that a couple of years ago. Yeah. It's a total section on. Yeah.

It's awesome, actually.

I, it's auto bond, man. It saved me. Yeah. It saved me about.

It's probably about 20 minutes.

“I think it was three bucks just to go six miles.”

Because it goes under. It goes, it goes under. Yeah. And it is just, and it's 75. Oh, man.

It's, and it was, yeah. It was a, it was a, it was a, it was a parking lot. Above, you know, the street above, and then the toll, you know, the, the toll section. I'm like, I don't want to wait. I just, oh, yeah.

I'm not going to wait. I'm not going to wait. Right. And I went, hey, you know, if I'm the normal person, and I had a drive. So I didn't drink.

But I was like, if I was a normal person, I probably going to have two or three beers. Well, that would cost me. I think it was eight dollars a beer. Right. I cost me.

“Mine got three bucks to save 20 minutes.”

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And, and, and, but going underneath it, I mean, I'm just going 75. And, you know, you look in the walls are right there. And it says, yeah, if you break down, do not get out of your car.

It was like, you know, you know, call the emergency. Right. The services, whatever. And they'll come and take care of whatever the, your car's problem is. But that was, that was, that was pretty intense.

So I'm just talking about toll roads in, in, in Texas. In, in Texas. But yeah, when you look at, you know, when we've talked about this. And the, the concept is simple for people that may be new listeners to the show. The, the reason, one of the main reasons that, and it, you know,

my dad had, you know, has and had a big, had and had a big influence on me. Yeah, yeah. And I'll never forget.

He always, he always disliked the term that Bush came up with.

Remember, compassion and conservative. He hated that. He hated it. Mm-hmm. Because he said, if you're a conservative, you are compassionate.

Yeah. Right. He said, and I never, my dad told me. He said, he was very young. You have an obligation and responsibility to give back.

That doesn't mean that government is the path to efficiency, and being competent in delivering services to people. Right. And he was always big. And finding out, my father had the, I mean, you can find it online now.

My father had the book. He'd get it every year of every charity that he gave to and how much went to advertising, how much went to administration, and how much actually got back to the people. Right. And that's one of the things, you know, when you look at the fraud going on here,

when you think about the mainstream media and the Democrats not caring about, you know, the, you know, the hospice fraud, you know, and the fraud in Minnesota and the hospice fraud in California. They just don't seem to care or do they do independence care. But I, I part of my education and being a conservative is,

well, if you have a monopoly, and this is a thing that's always amazed me,

the Democrats are absolutely against any type of company monopoly, whatever the definition of that is. But where it's clear that there's an absolute monopoly in government, where there is no incentive at all, because the money just keeps flowing in.

There's no incentive at all to have accountability, and you look at it, and that's for three to say, a lifelong democrat. They keep pouring money in and nothing gets better.

“They keep, and that's what JD, that's what a diamond was saying.”

Jamie Diamond, right. And keep pouring in trillions of dollars, nobody expects anything to get better because so little of it goes, and he actually brought up the thing that Milton Friedman brought up, the late Milton Friedman.

If you're going to have welfare, get rid of all the bureaucracy, just transfer the money, just right checks, just right checks. Just right checks to people, you know, that's the, I don't think he probably would have gone of the, the basic long-term income, right, for, you know, for everybody.

But if you're going to do it efficiently, if that's, if you're going to have those programs. If you're going to have a welfare program, get rid of the bureaucracy, don't have housing heat, this, that, food stamps, have one thing, you know, one department that gives cash to people. You use it, that's what you get.

You get the cash, do what you want with it. That's it, no bureaucracies because the bureaucracies eat up so much of it. Right. Yeah. And, and, and so, but, you know, that's the point right there.

Democrats believe a monopoly of, of, of, of the healthcare, works better than the private sector.

where government-run industries have ever done better than the private sector.

The evidence is crystal clear. Yet we pretend that doesn't exist. Right. Right. Yeah, no.

All day it doesn't exist.

“Well, because when people are underwater,”

what they believe is something else your father said, you know, they, the people of the, the people in power have, convince them they're smarter because they're in power because they have a title. And, as such, they've essentially conditioned many American people to believe, they can do something because they created all the rules and everything else,

and they have tons of money where a rich nation, and we can take that money from the rich and from corporations,

and they can give it to me because I'm underwater.

I can't get it from the rich and, and the corporations any other way, unless we take it, and I'm going to get something for it, which you're not. Well, you're not going, you're not going to get rich off of government programs, but you're not going to get comfort, living at a comfortable level. Did you see it?

Off living off government programs. And you see where it gets to when you demonize and, you know, the victim oppressor, a narrative that comes from the left, exclusively from the left. Yeah. You see what happens is what an environmental yesterday, those three women,

out there talking about a Brian Thompson and Luigi Mangione, and that Thompson deserved a die, and that his kids are better off without him. Did you see that? Yeah.

I can't play it because there's too much cursing. Yeah. But the whole point is, since he ran a healthcare company, he deserves to die. That's right.

That's what it gets to. That's where it's getting to now. No, no, that's it.

“They're justifying, that's what they, again,”

no, they put no value in life. And if, you see, you know, one picture about Manjoni, the evidentiary hearing that happened, and the judge, you know, came down and said, no, the evidence can, can stay.

But the picture that's attached to that story on a couple of sites that I was reading yesterday, it has him smiling when he's sitting there at the state Supreme Court, you know, with his lawyer. And he's just Manjoni smiling at the camera.

He's proud he thinks is a hero. And people believe he's a hero. Yeah. That's what you get. That's what you get when you demonize.

And so what they do, we're to the point right now when you think about it. Billionaires are evil, right? Yep.

“Uh, if you work in industry or CEO, you're evil.”

The people that committed massive fraud were responsible for massive fraud in Minnesota and what we're seeing in California in government, where they control Manopoli. Eh, no big deal. Right.

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Here's his comment on, "I'd basically politicians and, you know, why politicians

Here we go.

It's not really about helping people.

“It's about helping Gavin Newsom's image.”

It's about making him look like he's helping people. It's about making them seem caring and compassionate. Oh, aren't we so great? We're giving free diapers to people. Aren't we nice people who care about babies?

No, because you're not doing it, you're taking the money from taxpayers. You're actually taxing parents to create this whole circus and bureaucratic scheme that makes you look good in your eyes. That's the point of doing it. You're sort of lady-boundable handing out diapers.

But actually, the taxpayers funding it and it's much more expensive. And as we find out, you see, we see some of the research being done and how expensive the diapers actually are. Why?

Because government, the monopoly is involved in it.

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It's all about money. What do we mean? We'll tell you in just a minute. A lot of Americans are living with pain every day. George and Oregon is one of them.

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Or call 800, 400 relief, 800, the number four relief four relief factor. You know, we've been talking about the socialism in this country. And just a number of audio cuts here over the last 24 hours on it.

“When you look at the challenges that we face today, what are some of the issues out there?”

The radical transgender movement. The left's losing that. You're not going to convince people that a man can be a woman if the man says so. Sorry, you're not going to be able to do that.

You're never going to get approval for you're never going to get approval of the narrative

from the Charlotte Observer from what a decade ago. Where they wrote, you know, girls just have to get used to male genitals in the locker room. You're not going to win that one. Right. You're not going to win. And this is, it's gone slower than I've liked. But you're not going to win the identity politics of the left.

You're not going to win in our society. The fact that we should judge people as groups and not as individuals. Why? Because we interact every single day and every single one of us treat the people that we meet as individuals. Okay, not every single one. The vast majority, 99% of us.

And that's all, you know, if you've got 99% you're, you're, you're pretty okay. Yeah. 99% of us aren't going to do that. But the challenge that we have in this country. It's what's going to bring this country down.

I mean, the debt's what's going to bring this country down. You want to see the hit that we're going to have. It's going to be because of the debt. Yeah. That's going to hit.

I probably won't be alive. You probably won't be alive. But the bill will come due. And there will be, there will be a fiscal crisis in this country when it happens. But where does this all come from?

“It all comes from, again, and I think the problem,”

if you see the problem that is the hardest for conservatives to convince the rest. And I mean, moderates, liberals, populist Republicans. Money is the thing that self-interest, jealousy, envy, and selfishness lead.

Because people look, I don't care what the right way is. All I care is I want. And you're seeing it across the board.

“You're seeing it with the demonization of billionaires.”

We all know, you look at the billionaires out there. Most of the business people, maybe not the lottery winners.

But the people that have actually earned the money, they're always working.

Everyone must, because always working. You don't get all the other billionaires out there. They're always working. They're never stopping. I saw, you know, Cuban was with Trump the other day.

Yesterday was with Trump. You know, on Trump, our acts. Trump prescriptions. And so they're always doing something. They didn't get into it to be a billionaire.

They ended up billionaires. But they're people that are productive. Now, when I say, Mark Cuban, he's not always right on the issues, as we have hit him before on it. But he seems to be learning on a lot of the fiscal issues, by the way, as we've talked about before. And he did come around finally to our position completely, where he said,

"What, just a couple of weeks ago, no college loans.

No one should take out a college loan."

Right? No one. Right. College debt? No.

Don't do it. And he was at 10,000 or 10,000 a year since a couple years ago. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah.

He would down to 10,000. Yeah. And he talked about the college bubbles. So he understands economics. But it doesn't matter whether you understand economics or not.

People choose not to. People want to be biased when it comes to economics. They do. Yeah.

You know, it's the, the one thing that we've always brought up.

And I can't believe that people will fight you on it. But they will is that if you increase the cost of doing business, the economy will overall get worse. Unless there is an accompanying increase in efficiency. That's just basic economics. The efficiency productivity.

Yeah. That's just the reality of it. Anybody who's in business knows it. But for some reason, the public just goes, no, no, no, no. If you magically, remember some of the excuses for raising the minimum wage or justifications.

Well, it actually will put more money in because if people have more money, they'll spend it. And the economy will get better. Right. Canesian economics. They try to apply to it.

Yeah. Doesn't work that way. No, you look not. When you look at the, the economics or the money of of healthcare, for example. Why?

Why? When it gets down to it.

“Why do Democrats want socialism on the federal level?”

And not on the local level? Why do socialism have to be at the federal level? Because they can borrow from future generations. Right. As you see, Mundani can't do what he wants to do in New York City unless somebody else who will not get those services in New York State pays for it.

Right. Right. He can't get it done. You saw, as we saw, California, Vermont, Colorado. All of them wanted, you know, state run healthcare, complete state run healthcare.

None of them got it. Why? Even the Democrats and liberals didn't want to pay for it. Why do they want it in the federal level? Because they can get it from their children and grandchildren.

Taxation without representation. These people that believe in democracy, democracy. Everybody should, well, you're not alive yet. Let's tax the hell out of you. Yeah.

“Because that's what that's what you're doing.”

And this is across the board. I'm saying conservatives are probably one. 20 to 30% of the electorate. The other 70% are, again, my own self-interest is the only thing that matters. My selfishness, my envy, and my greed.

And in order to get to that point, I have to demonize billionaires. I have to demonize anybody with money. I have to demonize anybody who is any private sector solutions. The monopoly of the government must run everything. Because that's the only way that we can be ensured that we will have a money flow.

Is if the federal government can do it and borrow money from future generations to do it. Because nobody wants to pay for what they want right now. It's, and it's only getting worse, by the way. Yeah. And that's the reason I remember the calls after the great recession.

2008, 2009. And it was, well, if the banks are getting bailouts, I want my money. People who claim to be conservative got to tell that point.

But they weren't.

“They were talking about free healthcare.”

They were too low. It's not free.

They were talking about government, single payer.

We got those calls. Or maybe it's time to do this. And it just, that's when really for me, the bottom started to fall out. Because then it was defining conservative yesterday. We were laughing at audio cut we played from Steven A Smith.

I'm a moderate. I'm like moderate. Well, that's a blah, blah word in politics. What does it mean? It means nothing.

Tell us what your convictions are. And we also said, if you're saying conservative, tell me what you believe that qualifies you as a conservative. Right?

And because of people like Bill, Crystal and others who claim to be conservative for years.

And they're clearly. Oh, my God. That one yesterday. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

Just, you know, just, I just, you know, look. I'm like Huey Lewis. I want a new drug. Whatever they're doing, that makes them so delusional. And being able to live with their delusional.

I want to be like Huey Lewis. And I want to go back and time and tell Bill Crystal from 20 years now. Yeah, forget about. No, Huey, we don't need a new drug.

Give us, give us the back and time song back to the future.

Let's go. Let's, was that the power of love? Yeah. No, back, it was the back and time, right? I can't remember.

Yeah, back and time. Yeah, power of love was also a huge song. Okay. But they was from the movie, back to the future. And yeah, I want to time travel, go back.

And I want to say, hey, you're going to be saying this. You're going to post this on something called Truth or not on a social media. And this is how you're going to believe that. I also want to talk to them. And then I would interview him to have him qualify what makes him a conservative 20 years ago.

“Because I believe now he was never truly a conservative.”

You just, it would be extremely rare for all of your conservative values to just vanish in that way. And as we have said, you know, when you talk about socialism, communism, it's not just about the government gaining more control of the capital from the private sector or communism, where there is no private business at all. It is the fact that the socialist know that they can't pay for it.

They know it. Right. They know they can't pay for it. They know the United States. And my money knows he can't pay for stuff in New York City without state without the state.

He knows that without the state. And every single Democrat that talks about government fully paid health care. They know that Democrat states attempted to do it, and it failed because nobody wanted to pay for it. But they know socialist know. This isn't about the society paying for it.

Because when society tries to pay for it, when Sweden tried it, we've been talking about Sweden. Remember, just 10 years ago, we need to be like Sweden. We need to be like Sweden. We need to be more like Venezuela.

“Remember that crap a couple of years ago.”

Venezuela has got it figured out. What do you people nuts? And but when you look at Sweden now, and they realize in order to get the socialist Nirvana, we had to tax the hell out of the middle glass. And nobody wants it.

And so now they're going much more private. One out of three is a one out of three healthcare groups now. Our, I think our private and the same thing with schools. Yeah. In fact, you know, healthcare and actually schools now are on the stock market.

Right. That's how much private the private sector has come in there. Why it doesn't work. Socialists know it doesn't work, which is why they want the federal government to pay for everything. We want Medicare for all because the only way you can pay for it is to tax future generations

that aren't alive and put the debt and interest on them. Yeah. Yeah. So it's jealousy envy which leads to selfishness and not caring about future generations.

Now the talking point is I want to get whatever I can get from future generations.

Now for what I want now. Yeah. Yep. Give me mine. We are Red Eye Radio.

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Mark Harmon died. Yes. 74 years old. Right. And interesting.

“The whole Oh Jake case really is where he became I guess a household name at least in that era.”

But his testimony is a police officer then.

And then every once in a while you would see him commenting on cases I guess.

He became I don't know if he was a paid contributor to any of the news channels. I saw him I think mostly on Fox News. I haven't seen him in years though. I had not seen him in several years. So yeah.

I don't know how insane that was. Oh man. I still got a I saw guy who was an engineer for radio station. And I saw him a couple of years ago and he said. I'll never forget.

The look on your face when they said Oh Jason's not guilty. Yeah. Yeah. That was a crazy day. [ Music ]

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