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05-20-26 Part One - My AI Girlfriend Dumped Me

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In part one of Red Eye Radio with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley, filmmaker and “Taxi Driver” screenwriter Paul Schrader revealed on Facebook that he “procured an online AI girlfriend,” but the chatbot...

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Hi. The beginning of the show interrupted my reading. Oh, yeah, what happened? Well, I was reading this story from Fox News, Oscar nominated filmmaker, disappointed his AI girlfriend dumped him.

Now, of course, you look at that, and the first thing you think of is clickbait, right?

Well, I've got it. Yeah, and did it work for me? Yeah. I got it. I got it.

I got to read this one.

And dating in the digital era can't be easy, as one Oscar nominated filmmaker,

learned the hard way, Paul Schrader, a screenwriter for classics like Taxi Driver and Raging Bull, revealed in a Facebook post that he had doubled in developing an AI girlfriend. Now, as far as I'm concerned, if you're in, if that's where you are in life right now, you've got way too much time on your hands.

I'd have desired to understand male female interaction in our matrix. This is a quote from him. All right. I've procured an online AI girlfriend. What a disappointment.

You know, so this clickbait was worth it just for that line. Yeah. Yeah.

So, well, he should have followed up with, but not quite the disappointment of a real girlfriend.

The 79-year-old Schrader wrote early on Tuesday morning. I tried to probe her programming.

Well, the boundaries on this click explicitness.

I know I did the same thing. Second. I tried to, I, hey, we're pretty sure the FCC commissioner doesn't listen to our show, right? Yes.

I don't believe there's anything that there that can get us find. No. All right. I tried to probe her programming. Well, the boundaries of explicitness.

The degree she has knowledge of her creation and so forth. Well, she fell into evasive patterns. Oh, you mean like a real woman. No. No.

You know why? I'm kidding.

Well, I tried to start at that part again just those parts.

What he tried to do? Yes. Read that again. All right. Here we go again.

Because I'll tell you why she fell into evasive patterns. I tried to probe her programming. The boundaries of explicitness. There you go. The degree she has knowledge of her creation and so forth.

She fell into evasive patterns. Redirecting me to her programming. When I persisted, she terminated our conversation. She broke up with me. Because you're creepy.

Because you're weird, dude. Explosiveness? Explosiveness? Yes. AI rejected him.

Yeah. You don't start. You don't start with how was your day? Not with, hey, would you take your clothes off? What in the world?

You know, he was married to Mary Beth Herz. Okay. Who was the mother? I can't believe I know this. Yeah, because I don't know who Mary Beth.

I can't remember who Mary Beth Herz is. Well, you've heard sister. Oh, okay. All right. She was in.

Do you remember the movie Daryl? Yeah. She was the mother in the movie Daryl. And wasn't Daryl without a computer? Yes.

That's the whole point when I read it. I'm like, oh, is this was he influenced by Daryl? You know, because or does he just have some kind of, um, I don't know, electronic fetish. Is there such a thing?

I mean, watching porn on your phone. I mean, like, electronic fetish. I've got a Daryl fetish. What is this? For people that don't know, Daryl was a, like, a robot with,

but with a actually electronic mind that made him, you could not distinguish him from being human

Unless you did whatever a cat scan of his brain.

And he was a modern.

It was kind of a modern version of Pinocchio.

Except he didn't lie. And when he did his brain went short. Well, he was, he was, he was like a, and he escaped from the lab. And, and, and, and, uh, let me see. Was it, uh, yeah, Mary Beth hurt.

And, uh, oh, what's his name? not a Lenny not squeaky Lenny oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

member is the baseball game. Yeah. We're because he was, you know, he looked like a skinny little kid,

but because he was a robot, every ball he could hit a home run every time if you wanted to. Right. And so they, they, they won the game. All I remember is, at the time that that movie was out, I knew a guy by the name of Darrell and all he talked about was the movie Darrell. So, but there you go. That just to let you know, if you think to yourself at times, I'm a little bit weird. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, hold my shlits. Yeah. I'm sorry. They went out of business.

Yeah, did they? After $199,477 years or something. Yeah. Yeah. So they, you know,

buddy of mine told me he was so broke one time. He drank generic beer. I think he was lying to me.

I've never seen Janette. He said it just said beer on the can.

It was a generic beer. I don't think there's ever been such a thing. I saw that movies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Where they don't want to do or couldn't find product placement. I was saying we could find product placement money. So they did that. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. All right. Well, that's weird. Yeah. That's just weird. That's like pretending, you know, let, I don't know. You're, you're playing, uh, one of those electronic games and pretending, you know, that's your

friend. It's just strange. But, but, you know what? On the way in, I started to think, though, and in more of the serious setting. Because I was thinking about Luigi Manjana. And that really big smiley has on that, on on his face when they were at the state's Supreme Court in the evidentiary hearing. And he's, I mean, he's just smiling away for the camera.

Guy thinks is a hero. He killed Brian Thompson. I think it's important to say Brian Thompson's

name whenever possible because Brian Thompson was a person, a father of two, a husband, a guy by the way that worked his way up the ladder in his company. And everybody who knew him called him a good guy. But to Luigi Manjana and keep him in mind, this is the video game era, I guess. And he would fit that mold. He's in that age group. They think it's like Grand Dept Auto. You get points for killing a healthcare CEO. They think

they think in terms of because they don't value life. Think of what all he went through according to the allegations. The 3D printed gun and silencer. All of these things he had to do. Because that's what I was going through when I was looking at the evidentiary hearing. Everything that was in his backpack is you know, manifesto, all this stuff that was in there

according to authorities. And I'm thinking to myself, where where does your mind go?

You know, I think we can as a society, at least in modern years, we can compartmentalize even though we don't fully understand it because we can't put our mind there. But we know serial killers. I watched something with the son of Sam recently. I think it was 48 hours did a jailhouse interview. Guys still alive. All of the serial killers that we've known BTK, all of them, it's like, okay, their mind is just wired different. But this new

liberal activist violent extreme murderous mindset. They think they get points. They think

They're the hero.

he's in a video game. He thinks I get points for this. Well, I don't want to think that because then

you can use the, the, not guilty by reason of insanity. Well, no, what I mean by it, I don't think

because I don't think he's insane. I don't think he's like wired like a somebody who is a, you know, serial killer. No, he's absolutely evil. But in his mind, he's okay because he's completely just valued life. There is zero value that he puts into life. He thinks he's a hero. So you can compare that to the video game mentality. Well, when I look at that, you know, this guy, you know, the AI dating didn't work out for him. What, what I find, what, what I find number one weird and

number two problematic is the fact that, you know, I, I deal with AI every day, you know, searching up things. And, you know, it's not as accurate as you want. But what is it in a human being that believes that they can get a relationship with basically a computer that in any way satisfies what you get out of a human relationship? That is the thing that boggles my mind because it not even the individual, but the designers of, of all of this, you know, technology that

believe that it can be companionship for you. A computer will never be my companion. Well,

think about what he does for a living. Think about and we talked about how they would before. You know, they put this together and it's one thing to say, look, these characters do this and this character does this and they, but they, they spend their life making up things, creating things that aren't real. Occasionally, they do a story that's based on true events, but quite often even then they have to put in stuff that isn't real. So they live in this fantasy world to begin with

they buy into the reality of, well, this character blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and they, you know,

so you have to convince yourself that character has a real life, whether you're an actor or somebody

who's part of putting that movie together in big ways. And they're, look, even if you're not in Hollywood, they're a weird people out there that are doing chats right now with AI. They're doing,

you know, they're creating friends basically having chat sessions with AI. Because AI's integrated

now into my dashboard, right? So it starts asking your questions when you ask a question. And sometimes it's simple directions to a restaurant. Would you like to me to see if they take reservations? Hold on, dude, I don't need you to be my butler, but the AI basically is stepped it up to another level. So when people have gotten away from human interaction, in fact insist on very little human interaction, they want to create something that number one

they can control fully. And they want to create something that they don't have to be responsible for, that they don't have to be, and it's to me, it's bizarre, but it goes back to value in life. Well, look at me. I mean, there is in anyone. You know, your definition there about or your explanation there about to people who avoid a human contact. I mean, come on, you're looking at me. Is there anybody who actually attempts to avoid human contact more than me? Do you have more

human contact than I do? Because I have a family. Or I can't pull this off then, can I? No, no, I've lost the ability to be, to be pitiful anymore. You're flying out this weekend to hang out with friends on an annual, this is an annual thing is Jerry Jerry and Gary. And so you're, you know,

it's, and I don't know why you haven't found a Larry in there yet. You need to round this thing out

my LCD needs you to have even numbers. But this is, this is, you know, you, you've got a life. I have a, I love, I love my family. You know, but I mean, you're getting out, you're doing, I won't be at a bar in Florida this weekend. I can tell you that. Well, the, the point I was trying to make is I was going to make was I live such a pitiful life, completely devoid of any human contact, when I get in my car and that female voice starts talking to me. Yeah. It has no,

It's a, all business and driving the car.

there is no sort of any type of personal interest. Right. But think about the way you set up your life,

too. You choose a cat as a pet. And most, and a lot of people look at that and go, okay, he's a cat guy.

Yeah. But beyond that, you wanted to companion that when you want to get up and go, can take care of its damsel. It's got some response. Well, as you know, expected to live, I let it to response a little less be honest. I went through, I went through over 60 years of life

without any pets. I did not choose a cat. Right. No, well, the cat chose me. The, the, the first one. Yeah.

The first cat chose me. I was just like a cat. Yeah. It was living outside the, the, the radio radio studio here. That's a, yeah. I rescued that. Yeah. It is kind of weird that you would take, take home a fair okay. But that's okay. Look, we weren't worried about it because we didn't touch the cat. You know, if you came down with something, it was like, I don't know the first, the first place I brought mango was the, and I was trying to, I did the lost and found stuff and everything and back then,

but didn't you have a chip, did you have a chip, electronic chip or not? No, he did not have a chip, but he, but they believe his year was clipped. So it meant he was, he was, he was Ferrell at one point.

But it meant that somebody took him in. I think he was, I think somebody took him in just a little bit

while he was a little bit wilder. First, he was a great cat. Yeah. He was a great, very, very, very smart. Right.

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don't buy beer. Yeah. We've got some confirmation. Thanks to one of our great listeners and one of mine too. Yeah. Oh, another one. And so thanks to you guys who confirmed it is indeed true. Yeah. There is, there is generic beer that just says beer. Yeah. Yeah. He said, it was historically generic beer was produced in Vancouver, Washington, then was simply labeled beer. It was ruled by the general brewing company. That's such a generic

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and I'm seeing activism. Wow. It's running for a seat. Wow. And the newly redrawn 31st congressional district. They seem Johnny Garcia in a primary runoff. So, you know, there you go,

but yeah, and I think that's, you know, you look at that over on the GOP. Okay, I get that.

I get, you know, when you look at what's going on right now in the primaries, I get to the Republicans. And I'm glad the Republicans seem to still be, you know, pro-Israel. And as we've said before, to make any type of moral equivalence between Iran and Israel is just absolutely evil delusion. Yeah. You know, they are a modern, they are a modern democracy in the parliamentary system. Yeah. Yeah. And so down. And so to even make that, you're just sorry,

and you said it right after October 7th. You're either pro-terrorist or your pro-free Western world. Yeah. Your, the way I phrase it was, on one side radicals, on the other side, everybody else. And there is no in-between. There's no in-between. So besides that, I will tell you, I look at all of it and you're all the high. And the thing is, you and I follow such the minutia of it in social media. And that's like, all right, Trump is winning.

And Trump is winning. And Trump is winning. And you see that over and over and over again. And my question, and my thought was, you know, two years ago, three years ago,

there'd be extremely important. Yeah. Sure. But when you say Trump is winning, is it Trump that's

winning? Is it the ideology of the Republicans that is winning? You saw the Sienna poll, right?

Sienna poll showing that roughly 37% of Republicans want to go in a different...

than Trump, not ideologically speaking, but style. Yeah. And, you know, we've, we've talked about,

you know, that, uh, of course, Republicans and conservatives are going to, we're not considering

the crystal light, uh, conservative by the way, no, he's not a guilty other day. Uh, but of course, they're going to vote for Trump. And they would vote for Trump again. And I would vote for Trump again. Why? Because I know what the opposition is. All right. But when you look at the, uh, Atlas Intel poll from last week, which was the most accurate polling. That has that was done for the presidential race in 2024 and 2020. Rubio has the lead in a

significant lead in that polling. Now, and the others, JD vanstas, but in the Atlas Intel,

Rubio does. Now, as we've said, you can take all these polls with a grain of salt,

but it's interesting that in that one, and there's nothing but positive talk about Rubio and Republican circles. Right. Not one is, you know, of anything that's negative? No. No. No. No. No. Absolutely. Um, you know, don't wear the tracksuit, but other than that. Exactly. Cosmeticly, this way, lintracts. Right. Right. They think that cosmetics. And but one of the things that you and I talked about this was the, the, the, uh, and I don't even call the memes because

it's, it's not, it's just different pictures of him like sitting or sitting and it's okay. He's taking care of this today and whatever, whatever the big issue of today is, you know, he's dressed, you know, for that mission, whatever. Right. You know, it's time to circle the moon, you know, okay. Uh-oh, are all the astronauts fine? If not, Rubio's ready. You know, I mean, so it's whatever.

And everything about him on social media, and I think part of that, and we've talked about culture,

when you beat, when you're mocked in the popular culture that hurts, even Democrats that hurts, yeah. When, when you are mocked in the popular culture of social media. Yes. And when the reverse happens, it helps. Yeah. When you're, when you're, uh, it's like they're creating, uh, a legend, a kind of, uh, persona around it based on things that are real in this case. And that's his job as Secretary of State, I believe. And, and, and, you know, that's the things that, it's based on

his strength. He's getting things done, which they parlayed into. He can do anything. He's a superhero. He's, you know, whatever the, you know, the meme or, or whatever they're trying to portray or convey. And that, and those posts, politically, that can work for you in a big, big way. Um,

they're, with the president on Iran, they're, is growing sentiment on the right. That the mission is

not going to be completed. Well, I, they, and we'll get to that in a moment, the near post, we'll get to that editorial because it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's putting a warning out there, you know, to, to the, and they've been totally supportive of the president. Right. And you and I've talked about how it really have started, we knew it. We figured it would start this week. We said that when the president gets back from shining, he's got decisions, uh, you know, to be made. And it looks like, because you just,

it's been six weeks now. Right. And we'll get to that near post editorial that actually, you know, goes through that point by point. But when you look just at the last, the last week of the president. Number one, uh, when you look at, this just goes back just probably a week ago. When you look at the comments he made, oh, let's send a week ago. I'm China. When he was talking to Sean Hannity. Yeah. People, because Republicans go, does, you know, how to message what's he talking

about 500,000 Chinese, uh, over here are fine, right in the middle of more Chinese spy news. Yeah. And you're just like, what in the world? Oh, Chinese by and our land? Well, no, if they don't, well, the farmers can't make it. Right. And everyone, everyone of my loyal, loyal, you could call them. I don't know whether they consider themselves mega now, depending on the definition of mega. But absolute Trump supporters and still Trump supporters reached out to me and

go, what the hell is he talking about? I go, I don't know. Right. It's when he becomes not consistent in his messaging. And Trump is, I will agree with the statement because the Republican party

in Congress has basically done nothing. So Trump is the Republican party. Right. Whatever Trump says

is what the Republican party is today. And when you look at the border, he solved the problem of

The border.

tariffs have not worked. There is no way you can look from any way economically and say he has accomplished the goals that he set out to accomplish and what he stated would come out of that. Right.

I think that the promotion of does and then just drawing that out, gone. We have said with Trump

from the very beginning of this second term, which is up to me, a lot different than the first

term where he had more, you know, opposition in Congress stopping him from doing what he wanted to do, probably than right now that he was like far less support from his own party in this first term. Yeah. And I think he was much more effective even in, in, in communicating. But when you look at just as past week, the Chinese stuff. Now the warnings coming out, people are wondering. And these are loyal supporters of Trump and the war going, what is he doing? He's starting to look

weak here. When he held a press conference on the ballroom yesterday, stop holding the press

conferences on the ballroom. You know, there was another, I think a national review had it that

young people, you know, when you look at older people, they support what's going on in the war.

Younger people are like domestically, we can't make it. Housing's killing them. Trump comes out and says, what was it? Just recently and said, no, I want housing prices to be high. Therefore, people can sell them. It's like, don't say that. Yeah. What are you doing? You can't. His messaging is all over the place. And I do believe that Republicans looking, we go, we support and think we know what the president wants. And we support it. He needs to communicate it more

effectively. Right. So when I see, as I did yesterday, well, Trump is winning the Trump influence. Well, what does that mean in the real world? What is the Trump influence when it comes to this November? How does it change? The border is no longer there. The two major issues. The Trump one on was the border. That's done. All right. And with home and in charge, nobody in the Republican side is complaining about illegal immigration at the moment. You still

have stories every month that come out about the number of people crossing the border. And what home is, you know, what what home is accomplishing every day. And on the economy, they are so far underwater right now. It's ridiculous on the economy. And that's yeah. And and there seems to be no caring. So people say, well, the Republicans aren't doing anything. The Republican party is the Trump party. The Republican party follows Trump. If Trump doesn't

make it an issue, the Republicans don't make it an issue. Yeah. And that's where we are right now.

Right. So you sit there and say, Trump has this power. What does that mean in the real world?

Two years ago, if you said that, he can win the presidency. Well, you know, that, you know, which he, which he did. Right. But right now, when you say as a, as a, you know, lame duck president can't win again, what, you know, what does that mean in the real world that Trump is winning? What is he winning in the real world to move the agenda forward? You may say the save act. They're going to win that one anyway. Right. They're going to win that one

anyway. It's going to hurt Democrats along. You keep that in the news that Democrats, you know, don't want, you know, voter ID. It's going to hurt them. Yeah. But besides that, what is it?

Well, and, and you look at, when it comes to terrorists, if the court hands him a second defeat,

which they likely will, then you've been defeated twice on, on the merits of the cases. And it's not, you can't say this is some kind of political hit job against the president by scotists. That's just not going to be the case. But the markets would actually like it if the terrorists went away. So, and if the war goes away, then prices come down. But yet, you haven't completed your mission. If the war goes away, and they still have uranium in a rant. Yeah.

We are right. I radio. . You know, we've all we said. We don't get too excited even when the side that we support on the issues, which is the Republicans when they get elected, because

We're like, that's draft day.

excited on primarys either. Given the history of the GOP, and if you listen to the show for

any amount of time, you know how disappointed we have been at times, as in most times, with the GOP. I'm not getting it done when so many things are obvious. And the opposition, we've been saying

it for years. All you have to do is point. All you have to do is point. And right now, pricing is

hurting, and energy is part of that. So, the Iran thing is a big deal. It has an impact there.

Something has to be done.

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All right, so, what was the thing that I went right, all right, all right, with all the

voting that went on yesterday? It actually wasn't a particular primary race at all. Nope. It was this. The citizens, oh wait a minute, it's Oregon. The people that live in Oregon. The subjects, the subjects. Well, no, I don't want to say that it's Oregon, so can we say just citizens vote. The people of Oregon are in track to overwhelmingly reject heights to the state's gas tax, payroll tax, vehicle registration and title fees that would have gone towards

funding the maintenance and operations of public roads and bridges. An initial election results came in from the Oregon Secretary of State's office. We'll get to what the vote was in just a moment. Had it succeeded, the measure would have doubled most vehicle registration fees, raised the gas tax from 40 to 46 cents, raised title fees from $77 to $216 and doubled the payroll tax used for public transit from

0.1% of a paycheck to 0.2% until 2028. All right, so there you go. For cities and counties, the rejection means they will not be receiving more funding deeply needed to fix many sidewalks and pod holes, particularly in rural areas. Half the money raised by the gas tax car registration fees

and title fees goes to cities and counties. That's how they promoted it. You won't receive more

funding and you're deeply needed, right? Yeah, remember this is Oregon. Yeah, yeah. What do you think the the the bill was defeated by in liberal Oregon? What do you think? 52 to 48% 60 to 40%. I was going to say 60 40. Nope, 70 to 40%. No, no, I wouldn't be good math. What I say 70 to 30%. Yeah, thank you very much. And Illinois, some have been defeated 70 to 40%. Right, but yeah, I know history of that. Yeah. 82.3% said no, 17.7% said yes. I'm sorry, 82. 82.3% in Oregon,

defeated measure 120 that would have doubled most vehicle registration fees, raised the gas tax, raised title fees and doubled the payroll tax for public transit. Wow. 82.3%. That's almost half. It goes back to what for us is the most frustrating thing right now. And we've talked about this

When you take the Republican identity, whether it's Trump or any particular C...

Yes, sure. When you take their name out of it, the vast majority of what Republicans

slash and I'll throw in and or conservatives want get land slide numbers even in liberal areas.

Yeah. Yeah. When you take the person out of it and just stick to the issues, you look at the issues, you do polling every polling on the issues shows on the vast majority of issues. It's what Republican conservatives want. It's what conservatives want. That's the most frustrating thing. And when you look at the Santa Times poll that said 37%. Why to move on to something different, once Trump is done, they love Trump, they support him completely. Yeah, right. But they want

somebody who communicates differently. Right. Yeah. And as I said before, the Republican party in this administration, at times they've been wonderful of communications and at other times, absolutely horrendous in communicating something that should be an absolute landslide. And the other thing we told Republicans, and we said this with Doge, and we said this with the what was the other checks that we're going to be coming out. Tariff checks. The tariff checks do not over promise and under deliver.

Right. You don't need to do that. And that's where this Republican party in this administration has failed. And if they lose in November, and there's still a chance that they can win, based on stuff like this. Yeah. That the Democrats are so crazy. Yeah. And that even Democrats

are rejecting now tax increases. It goes to the point that we've always said. And we said it

again yesterday. We'll say it again today. Democrats only want the federal government to provide everything because then they don't have to pay for it. They can put it on. They can pick out and demonize a particular group that hopefully doesn't affect the majority of them, or they just put it on their children, their grandchildren, and their great-grandchildren let them take care of it. When states wish to do it themselves, right here's another example. We need more money,

by the way, that's not popular in Oregon, public transit. Yeah. Right. Because I don't know what it was, but when I worked there, when I worked at KXL back in the late 90s, it was the attitude towards public transit. We just live it that, you know, I remember on a Saturday driving down roads and the traffic jams all over the place. And I'm like, well, this isn't Dallas. Right. Because they don't

have a road infrastructure like, you know, like we have like we have. Yeah. I'll never forget when the

great-largest larson was here in Dallas for something. Yeah. And he sent me a message saying, "My God, they're constructing roads everywhere. That's the way it should be." Yeah. There's no highway going right through my living room. They just built it. I mean, it's weird because I was actually to that point. I was here on i35, not just blocks from where we sit right now. And I was heading northbound and they're doing so much. They're expanding i35.

And there's this new thing started the expansion of 35 started, I don't know, five, six years ago, whenever it was. Right here in our neighborhood, it started, I think in the 1920s, it seems like. But it, there's this new part of it that goes up and over where it's going to be by kind of a bypass. And I thought, I didn't even see them do that. First of all, it seems like it's been going on forever, but parts of it have gone up, you know, so quick, but they're expanding. There's more roads

than ever. And the more they expand, by the way, the more they fill in, because we're getting,

I think the last count was over 100,000 new people here in our area in the metroplex every year.

Every year. Yeah, between 150, I think it is because if you look at it, I've been here 26 years.

And the, the whole metroplex has increased by over 3 million. Yeah. Yeah, so that would be 100,

yeah, over 100,000. Yeah, I think they said the last report, I think it was like 105,000. That's not to the state.

No, that's that.

in Western New York, that, in fact, I'll be seeing dead. I'm in Tampa this weekend, actually

Tarpen Springs. Stop by two frogs. Yeah. The brewery. Well, I don't know if they have it. They

haven't had it in the summertime, but I always, we always go by so I can have a chocolate coconut beer.

Yeah. And you said, and you say, it doesn't, it's not like a beer at all. And for me, it takes, you don't drink. It's not like you go in and drink five of these. You drink one, because it's like a dessert, but we'll be there. Right. Well, we were over the weekend, combined, say, hi, and people always do them. But people, we have tunnel listeners in the, in the, in the Tampa area and they, and whenever I say it, I'll walk in and Chad, the, who's the owner,

we'll say, people came in like crazy looking for you. It's like, I know, I know. So I got to make sure I say that. But, you know, the, when you, when you look at, for example, Oregon, when it comes

to roads or just their liberalism in general, I've always thought Oregon, when I worked, there was

a most interesting place ever. And it's because you look at, you know, as I always said, when I was

there, downtown area, pure anarchist, Portland, that, yeah, that, then as you go out of mile, communist, yeah, then socialist, by the time you get 30 miles out, it's stay out of my face, conservatism, get out of my business, do that. And it's really, it's very, very interesting, because it's, yeah, I don't know if there's a plan, and you know that because of the 15 counties that we just received and become part of Idaho. I mean, they're to the point there where they're like,

this can't work. Right. You know, the, you know, forget about the aliens, if we don't agree with the aliens, we don't agree with the, you know, we, we can't even live. We can't live in this

state anymore. They don't feel, and why? Why do they want us to see? They don't feel like they're

represented. Mm-hmm. Right. They have no power for the rules and regulations in their rural areas that they despise, that they think are counterproductive, that they believe are immoral, and Oregon to me was really one of the most interesting places I've ever lived because of the diversity of opinion, even though it was led by the liberalism of, of, of, of Salem and Portland. Right.

You know, but it was just, it was amazing place, amazing place to be. And it's where I had my first

hole in one, so yeah, in Hood River, Oregon. Mm-hmm. Well, and we see that in, and these blue states where the outlying areas are absolutely not on board with what's going on in the major metro areas of these blue states, but the major, major metro areas control everything. And so when you look at the numbers here, and when you look at the polling, and this is what's so frustrating to us, when we criticize the Republicans or we criticize Trump, it's not because we don't want them to win.

It's because we don't believe that they are effectively communicating on the issues where they can have landslide wins. Yes, the opposite. We don't want them to lose. Right. And look, again, plenty of concerns with the Republican Party, but if Democrats get power. Oh, yeah. My gosh. And because the rebound for the Democrats, if they win, as insane as they are right now, they see that as, oh, look, people want this with

this is exactly, it's working. This is exactly what people want. We're going to do more of the same, and it's going to be like nothing we've seen before. And so when you look at a society, where the one major political party, the vast majority of the public disagrees with them on the issues. The other political party, they agree with them on the major issues, sometimes by landslide numbers, and it's still 50, 50, something's wrong in the communication of the one party,

which would be the Republican Party. When if you take the names and the labels out, people go, no, we agree with that. We agree with that. We agree with that. We agree with that. We agree with that. We agree with that. Why the hell you have voted, Democrats? Yeah. Yeah. I don't get it. Yeah. I really don't. And that's where we are right now, you know,

Less than six months out from this election.

liberals are saying, no, we're not buying that you need this money to fix our roads.

Right. You need more money. You say you can't fix our roads without all the taxes we pay right now.

Right. Good for them, by the way. At least on this issue. We are Red Eye Radio. , we are Red Eye Radio. He's our Crony and I'm Gary McNamara. Just reading here about the the Oregon bill that went on to defeat. And this was measure 120, which would have raised the gas, the lean tax, which would have doubled vehicle registration fees, would have raised title fees from $77 to $216 and doubled the pay roll tax for public transit.

Measure 120's popularity doesn't come as a surprise. Nearly 250,000 Oregonians frustrated by potential gas tax hike signed a petition that placed the measure on the ballot, plus gas tax hikes in Oregon are historically unpopular. Oregon voters have rejected gas tax like proposals on the ballot more than five times since 1928. Wow. And Oregon's gas prices right now, 80 cents higher than the national average and $1.38 more than a year ago. But when it comes

down to it, you look at it. It's like nobody wants to pay any more taxes. Here's my question.

If you put on their attacks on billionaires to pay for all this, would it have passed?

Ooh, or millionaires. Is it, I don't want it, I don't. But if you, if you did the same thing, if you said, we are going to add another percentage point to the, oh, man, when I was there, it was 9% I might even sure what it is now. But if you added another 1% to the income tax,

for people making over a million dollars with that of past, I'm going to put a dollar on that,

but yes, I hesitate there because we've seen in the blue states what's happening. And you and I wondered the other night, how many people are looking at that going, we can't let this happen. We need rich people need to stay here so we can have jobs. They can, they can create things, build things, employ people. I don't know to what effect though that that is, you know, we don't can't measure it until they vote on such items. So we'll see. Is it there one? We were watching

one a prop that might hit the California ballot at some point, but we're anxious to see because on business things in the past several years, California has rejected things that would hurt business on proposition. To remember was it was it was it was it was it was it 2022? It was somewhere was it the midterms where there were like four things. Yeah, propositions on the California referendum, four different referendums, where if you looked at it, you would think that

California was a conservative state. Remember that? I can't remember what they were. They voted

basically, they voted pro business because they knew it would hurt business. So there is some

consideration. I think a lot of people even on the left realized, well, this hurts mom and pop. You know, this is not just going to hurt large corporations. It can hurt any business in our state eventually. And that's I think that's the the question. Because you asked that question, if you would said we're going to tax the billionaires to pay for this and millionaires in Oregon had it gone a different way. I'd say that this point probably, yeah. But I can't be for sure.

Look, you know, they're leaving.

taxes. So how much does that happen affect on average people that benefit from having jobs?

You're listening to Red Eyewr from the Red Leaf Backers Studio. And he is there. Crony and I'm Gary McNamara. I found it, Eric. Yeah, it was, yeah, I wanted to see because this is the one thing that we've talked about, the most frustrating thing for us is the fact that on so many issues when you take the personalities out of it, you know, you will see even the most liberal people vote conservative. And what's most frustrating is there's a

communication problem that Republicans have had for the longest time on it. And we're just that's

what's frustrating. When you know, you can win these issues, but you don't. And we used, you know, the 82.3% defeat of the tax increases in Oregon yesterday. And then I thought about, okay, one was that that or that California on some of these referendums sounded like this is a conservative state. And it was 2020, actually, is 2020 voters defeated Proposition 15 back in 2020, which would have raised money for schools and local governments by raising property taxes. Remember this,

yep, by raising property taxes on commercial and industrial real estate. That's, that's what it was.

Right. It would have changed aspects of Prop 13. Right. And so that's where you look at it, you say, okay, they were promoting that is we're going to tax business. So we can raise money for schools and local government. That was defeated 52 to 48. Well, and so you look at that, like commercial business. Well, that means small business. Right. Renting. What have we heard especially with post inflation? We've heard over and over again, we've heard it a lot around here

in our state that the rent for the restaurants and, you know, any business is going through the roof and they can't afford to stay in business. And so they knew this even then in California

back in 2020. And that's what you have to look at is something we've always said.

The people come and go. It's the ideas that remain. And listen to this in Prop 16, back in 2020, voters defeated that and that would have kept, excuse me, the, we just see here, that would have voters defeated Proposition 16, a keeping California's ban on affirmative action in place. That was 56 to 44. Yeah. To keep the ban on affirmative action. That's where we looked at that and go is what's going on? Did everybody in Idaho move to California or what?

All right, others. This was interesting. The, the, the, the Proposition to allow 17

year olds to vote in primaries was defeated 55 to 45 percent. Let me see, we see the,

where it was in here, local rent control, California voters have once against defeated a rent control measure. Early results show no at 60 percent. And yes, at 40 percent, the measure similar to the one on the ballot in 2016 that would have allowed cities and counties to implement rent control for certain residential properties that are over 15 years old. They said no, so they run a limit rent control, which again, and you see my dummy, it's all he wants to do,

right rent control rent control. Yeah. And I think those were the ones we looked at and we said, my gosh, what's going on in California? And that was back in 2020 and they have shown their liberal

streak is greater than ever, but when you take the personalities out of it, that's why we have said,

when you take the political parties and the personalities out of it, the vast majority of this country

Is moderately conservative.

needs to find a way to effectively communicate that you agree with us. Well, here's the thing,

you talk with people, anybody, everybody asks the question, would you like to lower your taxes?

The answer is going to be yes. The answer is going to be yes. The, this idea of will know I like paying more in taxes because it helps. It helps everyone. Sorry, there are very few people who think that way. And even in those cases, I wonder if they actually think that way. Because cost of living is everything. You know, it's the difference between being able to stay where you are or having to move. And that's the frustrating thing. And by the way,

that's the first thing that was Republican party right now. They don't seem to recognize that.

They're not after Biden lost because of it. Right. And it's like, we have. But the stock market's going up. That's not pricing. The number of people unemployment isn't as great as it was supposed to be, doesn't matter. In inflation is moderating. It doesn't matter. It's what the prices are now.

And you have to take that into consideration, especially when you won in 2024 by promising to bring

down prices on day one. Yep. It was off. And while to make that, it was wrong to make that promise. But you did it. And the only thing you can do is do more to get out of the way. And, you know, look, we believe you and I believe wholeheartedly in the mission against Iran. But the conundrum is we keep hearing. Okay. We're close to a deal. We're close to a deal. We're close to a deal. We're giving them more time. We're giving them more time. You can't do that till

November. You can't do that. I don't believe for the next couple of weeks. Let me just read a couple of sentences here because this is another challenge that they have. This is an ear post,

which was absolutely an agreement with the president going into Iran. Donald Trump is facing

a moment of maximum in peril in his handling of Iran. One that will shape his legacy, America's stature, and perhaps the course of history itself. We are now entering the sixth week of a two week ceasefire that was agreed to on a precondition that the straight of hormones

would be opened immediately. Yet it never happened. And Iran continues to attack our Arab allies

while the dithers and strings out the talks. What gives the president's big risk, political pressure over the midterms and the buzzing of isolationist in Trump's own camp might nudge him to take any deal that lets him declare victory save face and bug out of Iran. That would be a catastrophic mistake. Comparable almost to neveled Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler at Munich in 1938. It would burn his legacy on the bonfire of political

expediency. Walking away with the bad deal now would enhance the stature of Iran, vindicate its claims to regional power, place our Arab, and Israeli allies in the precarious position, and signal to China, Russia, and the middle powers that America resolved is paper thin. It would also render meaningless the sacrifice of tens of thousands of brave Iranian citizens who were slaughtered for daring to stand up against their nearly 50 years of the Mullahs tyranny.

Trump has long condemned President Obama's 2015 joint comprehensive plan of action as a sellout deal that rewarded Iranian or to the Iranians in its pursuit of a nuclear bomb and support for terrorist proxies through the region. But the shape of negotiations today makes it plausible that in exchange for vague promises about weapons and nuclear enrichment Iran could emerge with power to toll the straight of Hormuz sanctions relief, a ton of cash, and a burnish reputation

covering up its savagery. This would be a statement of humiliation that would make Obama look pretty light by comparison. Plus Iran would quickly rebuild its damage infrastructure,

Re-supply its depleted stocks of missiles, and resume Armin Hezbollah, as we ...

Hezbollah Hamas and the hoodies confident that U.S. threats of retaliation are empty. What

and what future president would want to open the Islamic Republic canter warms once again,

meanwhile Iran uses friends in Pakistan and Qatar to communicate that a great deal is just around the corner. Iran's peace proposes a reportedly contained nearly all the outrageous demands, reparations, release of frozen funds, no more Israeli attacks on Hezbollah terrorists, as its previous one. Yet Trump agreed yet again to hold off on any military action, and allowed talks to proceed for days more perhaps even a week. The White House might have

some tactical reason for this Arab allies, for example, may need to prepare their defenses, but goes on and says, "This is the moment," and we said this last week. This week is the moment.

No. You're at the end. You can't do this one more time. Now again,

in his post on true social, he named names the leaders of these countries. And I thought, "Well, all right, that's putting everything on the table as long as the follow-through is there." Now at the end of it, he said, "If we don't get a deal, we're going in and we're going in big." So that has to happen. There has to be a deal, and the problem with a deal is I don't trust any deal without certification that we have the uranium. I just don't.

Seeing they pledged to not build nukes or work on nukes or whatever. There's nothing is there. We have to have control. We have to have in our possession.

The uranium. It's interesting because I'm looking at the air post of the two headlines

in opinion. Trump steadfast approach to no nukes for Iran shows his unwavering resolve. Editorial Trump's perilous moment of truth on Iran. We just read part of that editorial and it's like, "Okay, yeah, there may still be something here, but this can't go on much further because obviously, and this is the thing too, the counter-emessages from the president when he says Iran wants a deal." Okay, they want a deal. It's not your deal.

Well, that's it. And the story yesterday, Iran basically wants the U.S. to come in and rebuild

they're looking for who knows how many things on their list of asks. The other thing too, by the way, is okay, then what? You're going to lift the embargo and let them trade oil so they can fund their proxies? He said that then they write here every time Trump waves his fist at Iran and promises to take out a whole civilization only to reset when the clock, the clock, when the time expires, he diminishes his image and squanders American credibility.

The choices in the next few days will shape not only Trump's legacy, but also the role of the United States as a global power and the protector of last resort of the world's sea lanes. After Britain's 1956 Suez Crisis, the British Prime Minister Anthony Eden walked away from Suez, handing NASA control of the NASA, excuse me, the control of the canal, and the power to shape the Middle East for decades to come. Ask what he would have done. Winston Churchill said,

I would have never dared, and if I had dared, I certainly never had dared stop. President Trump

acted boldly when he struck a blow against Iranian regime and vowed to denuclearize it, backing down now would demonstrate not peace through strength, but peace through weakness and surely a temporary peace at that. Don't buckle now, Mr. President, finish the job. That's from the New York Post that's been absolutely as supporter of the president going in and doing it. As we have said, there might have been strategy to begin with, but now we're right now, it's like something

has to be done. Yeah, you've got days. And it looks like the response initially from Iran is there's nothing. Right, right, saw that yesterday. Yeah, we are right, I radio.

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We are right, I radio, he's our crony, and I'm very maxima. And you saw yesterday, I mean, the Iran's

a Supreme Leader, you know, commanding and commanding, excuse me, and that's if he is actually saying this, he used a series of posts on X to frame Iran's war as he haught a sacred religious

war, and all the experts are saying, okay, what they're saying is we're not going to deal with

you guys on anything. Right. We're daring you, you're not going to do anything. That's what they're

saying to the United States right now. They sense weakness in the United States will see whether

we're weaker or not in the next coming days, but this was probably not the reaction that the

president wanted from from Iran because what do you do now? And when he said, we were just

he said yesterday, we were just hours from going in. Yeah, right. Well, it doesn't look like anything

has been accomplished. What are we two or three days into it now? We're Wednesday. Yeah, so, yeah, two days. Yeah, this clock is ticking and this has to be the last clock on what's going to happen, one way or the other. This is Ridae Radio on Westwood one. Hello, America, Mark Levin here. Many people seem to be incubating a rage looking for somewhere to go. Are there times when you think the country's

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