05-21-26 Part One - Normies, Biggers and Nipple Nazis

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Yeah. 10 second audio cut from the five and just you water us about where the Democrats are right now.

Okay. All right. Are you ready? Yeah. All right. Here we go. What's happening here is that Democrats can't get normies. You know, normal person wants to run as a Democrat. So all they can find are nipple Nazis and any semetic sex therapists. All right. Let's unpack that. And we'll start with nipple Nazis.

“Wow. You listen. You can go into the details on that. Well, I think I may. First of all,”

I'm going to make it clear right here now. That will not be the name of my next band.

The nipple Nazis. Not because it wouldn't be an interesting name, but because

I'm not sure who would show up to watch a band called the nipple Nazis. So we won't go there. Uh, but he's, he's right in the creative way that he put it. It makes it entertaining. But he's absolutely right. There are, who's, who's the normal one? Okay. You know who the normal one is? The guy wearing the hoodie and gym shorts. No, after all of this after everything the guy

“or everything where it started with betterman, he's the normal one. The guy in the hoodie”

and the shorts, the senator in the hoodie and the shorts. And now he's

too normal for Democrats in Pennsylvania as they, the Democrats, you've seen his numbers with Democrats have just cracked. Yeah, what compared to compared to the, the, the extreme radical left, betterman looks like Ronald Reagan in a hoodie and shorts. No, I'm sure. And I just, the theater of the mind. Well, I, I can't imagine Reagan. I'm just, I just, I had the picture Reagan in a hoodie and shorts. And Nancy, all dressed up perfectly

next to him walking in the congressional chambers for the state of the Union address. That would have been strange. But that's where we are. That's where we are with the Democratic party. They're, they're, they're just, no way around that. That, the, the, the normie, if there is a normie, it's federalmen. But who runs in 28? We've been asking this question. I mean, who runs in 28? That is, that is normal. That has any wide appeal. You know, we talk about the Republican

party, who's, who's on the list. And you can, you know, why they're there, shady vans. He's the current P. P. Marco Rubio, he's right now doing a great job as secretary of state. Governor de Santas doing a great job as governor of a, of a, of a, a state that he's turned around. He's really turned it more red. I don't know, turn it around. But he's turned it more red. And done a great job governing. So there's your top three right there, right? You see the list

on the left for 28. And it's all over the place. I mean, one day, comma is leading another day, AOC, AOC's doing well. Right. But where are the normal people? Where are, where, where,

that they were using on five to the day that the term normal, because we started that long time ago. Yeah, we said, you know, it's not normal to sit, it's not normal. Right.

It's not normal. There is no critical thing. And, and normal means, there is some critical

thinking involved in your mindset. Right. I know there's some, it's, it's, it's something, it's a custom that society has embraced because it makes sense to everybody. Right.

“Right. That's what, you know, that's where normal is. Right. And as soon as they started saying,”

well, a man can be a woman if a man says so, right, you've just become abnormal in your thought process. You can not, you can see the debate about where, uh, when does the life begin? Right? We could, you can, that debate, uh, in terms of it being a debate was mainstream. It was a mainstream debate when does life begin?

Telling people that it should be okay. In fact, legally fighting for children to mutilate their own

body. That's not normal. That is, I'm, I'm not saying a abortion, by the way, is normal. I'm just saying that you can, the debate about abortion was a mainstream debate. It was one that had been around for the longest time. And well, now, you know, where I thought you were headed with that was the debate

“that I had with a, a number of, of pro abortion women, uh, after the, uh, the, the, the dozerling,”

right? Right. Yeah. After the, the, the dozerling. Mm-hmm. And, and they said, well, they made abortion illegal. And I said, you're not even paying attention. No, they did it. No, they didn't, what they said was, uh, the legislature and the people of the United States have not spoken on this. Right. And so we can't assume what they're thinking. We can't make war. So it goes back to the states unless Congress wishes to make a law on it. Right. We don't get to do it. And those other

judges made law. Right. And you can't do that. Right. And I got, you know, I got a, you know, a, a, a blank stare, but it was the point that I brought up, which then again gets to the, the, the point of, well, you, you haven't thought this thing out, which to me isn't normal. And it got to the point where I said, well, then you believe in abortion up to birth. Right. Go, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There has to be limitations. And each one of these pro abortion women had limitations

in the womb. Right. And I said, well, then why are you calling people that are a few months before you radical and you're not radical? Right. What you're saying is it becomes a, a child somewhere in the womb. And you believe that somebody is taking away your rights, because they wish it, you know, to be at this point in the womb. Right. And you wish it to be at this point in the womb. Right. Well, what's the difference? I got blanks to every single one. I got complete blank stairs. And I was

with a, a couple one time. And the, the, she was just, she goes, well, well, well, what, what, what I'm saying is, it's a woman's body. No, it's not a woman's body. You just said it this

particular point. And the, you know, the third trimester, no, you shouldn't be able to have an abortion.

You don't believe in abortion up to birth at that point. Right. And that, that's not the woman's body. Right. It's not the woman's body. So you're saying in the womb, it's not your body. And she was all flustered and her husband was sitting behind her. And he just gave me the thumbs up like wow, that was. And then even when I was at the group of people one time, there were some pro-life women there that also gave me the thumbs up behind the one woman that I was saying. And there was no yelling.

I was having the discussion. I go, well, then what about this? But I was getting them flustered on it. To me that when we talk about normal, it's being able to defend your point, a reasonable point

“with consistency. And that's why I thought you were going with it. Well, it's, but the debate”

itself, right, about abortion has been around for a while. And I would say, you know, I'm a pro-life but at the basis of it is when does life begin, right? That's one of those questions would, okay, as the society, we would have, this is what the court said, our representatives in Congress could make law to legally decide where it begins if they wanted to. And they haven't. In fact, AOC after that decision said, well, they're just ruling like kings, we're going to have to take

this up on Capitol Hill. And that's exactly what the court said. As exactly, but they're getting

the issues of being normal. We have, and that's why I went back to what we have discussed before on the issues with the, isn't just the individual, what they were talking about was, again, you know, platinum and Maine. You know, the, the other woman that's running as a Democrat in the state of Texas, that's, you know, talking about, you know, putting Jewish people basically in ice detention centers and making them concentration camps and Jews are pedophiles. And so they

should be castrated. I mean, this kind of stuff. Or, you know, well, I was only a Nazi because I was

angry. And well, if you're a Nazi because you're angry, here's $10 million run for our party.

You know, I mean, that's the kind of, we're getting more into the minutia of the issues where we,

“which it eventually gets to. But I think they're just going just on the surface level. You look at it.”

And these people aren't normal. And the people supporting them aren't normal. It doesn't make any sense. And, and I think the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the platenocase in Maine just saw another poll where he's leading by seven points. Yeah. You know, you've got Democrats that for years without any evidence have called Republicans, Nazis. And now they're endorsing a Nazi. Yeah. And it's okay that he's a Nazi because he was an angry Nazi. Right. And as we have said, oh, so what is the standard now,

angry Nazi? Yes, content. And even though I don't think I've ever met a content Nazi. Right.

A mellow content and happy Nazi. You can't be a mellow content and happy Nazi. But if you're an angry Nazi, we're going to give you that chance because you were angry at society. And that drove you to be a Nazi. And now you say, well, I really don't want to brace all the stuff of being Nazi. I just believe in all these insane ideas. Well, you're the, you're the best guy that we can find for the Democratic Senate in Maine. Yeah. Senate we're talking about we're not talking about a, a,

radical, small, jerry-mandered congressional district or Nazi district. Not right. Not Nazi district or a, or a, a, a small city council member who represents a very small, you know, a 10 block area that's completely radical. We're talking about the state of Maine and the Democrat saying, we want a Nazi. We want a Nazi. But that's terrible that you say he's a Nazi because we believe he's a reform Nazi. And he was only a Nazi because he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,

he was angry. He was angry. So we got to give him money because he claims he's reformed. And that's

“the best candidate that we can find to run. You know, and that's a problem. So here's the thing,”

it's the, it's the anti-Semitism that runs throughout the left. Yeah. That's the one, that's, that's, you know, you think about it. That's the one thing that, and it just builds the defense where someone like Platner, right? But it also builds a conundrum because then from that point on, if you call Trump Hitler, you think he's a hero from your perspective. Well, no, because Trump is happy a lot of the times. So he's a happy Nazi. Oh, no,

happy Nazi. That's not so happy now. That's right. It's said it on the door. The bear out front should have told you. You know, if you're anybody listening to this segment right here, I think it's okay if you have a shot. Well, I was going to say, I was going to say, I was going to say, micro dose something because it's, it's that bizarre. I don't recommend that right away. You don't know, you may, you may, you may feel like, let me phrase it this way. You may feel like you're on

acid. That's the landscape of American politics. I just, I disagree with it because all, already, just what we've talked about. I'm seeing hallucinations, and I'm completely sober right now.

“Now that's what I mean. It just, it, it feels anything. It feels, you may feel like you're on acid,”

but this is actually what's going on. Nipple Nazis. That's what's going on. The Nipple Nazis are winning. Seven points for the nipple Nazi. I have no idea where we go from this point on, but we will try. Go to a break and see if we can reset. Why not? We haven't been able to do that in years. No, 20, almost 21 years are you running? Still can't do it. We are right, I radio. Brought to you by Hot Shot Secret. Hi, I'm Jen Lumis, a transport safety expert at JJ Keller. When driving,

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Somebody great audio cuts from the left. Did you just see this? This is the one that came out yesterday when viral from the author, Fran Libu. It's not to be mistaken as a fond Libu. It's who otter went to the sorority house in Animal House and she had died in a kiln accident and he used that in order to pick up other women in the sorority. This is Fran Libu. It's the author about billionaires in New York City. Ready for this? Okay. Here we go. Listen to this genius

economist. Yes. I mean, and you know, there are always, every time someone suggests this,

they say, "I'm moving. Go." You know, they add nothing to New York. You know, in the olden days, in the 19th century, those rubber bearings, they employed people at least. Okay? They employed thousands, hundreds of thousands of people. All those money, magic, and close no one. It is no product. It has no goodbye gone. We're moving to Florida. Go. You know, we don't need you.

“You know, I mean, I know that guy, I mean, I don't know him, but I think you're talking about a guy”

in person, right? He's a 103 million dollar apartment. First of all, what does it even mean?

How can a apartment be 103 million dollars? And when you have the apartments that cost that much,

it makes every apartment more expensive. So, the 103 million dollar apartment in a 573 makes the studio apartment in the Bronx more expensive than it should be. So, no, it doesn't. No. I mean, complete. I mean, you talk about complete cluelessness. Yeah, do we pick it apart or just go, it's normal. Yeah, definitely not normal. And not educated. When I first saw it, I thought it was reappearment. She looks so much like that. But I mean,

completely clueless. Yeah, completely clueless. Right. Basically, a child mentality,

“economics as drama. Right. That's what it is. Maybe there should be, I wonder if they have”

a course in all these Ivy League schools drama economics? Well, you know, because you look at it, and she says, they employ no one. Okay. All right. We can unpack that very quickly. Oh, I know. That's just like a buddy of mine who got out in someone, he just bought a new core of that. And they said, wow, the money for a car like that could feed 100 families. And he said, actually, it fed a lot of families. The families of the people who built it, the breaks,

all the components, he broke down the economy of a pencil basically built in Friedman and said, so, yeah, when I buy that, it supports a lot of families. And you're welcome. When the rich spend money, that's exactly how it happens. Whether they work for the rich directly or not, there is that benefit from them spending money in that local economy. Anybody, anybody who has a 401k or a bank account? Yeah. Where the money's just sitting there and you do nothing with it,

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app today and you can listen when and where you choose. So the audio cut that we had played before the bottom of the outro from from a friendly, but it's just again as is the author. When she said that, you know, billionaires contribute nothing completely clueless as to how

“economics works. Yeah, complete. Right. And I really believe it's maybe we should call it just”

drama economics. And it's what I because I am built because my whole mindset is based on

jealousy, envy, and selfishness, I'm just going to make comments that are emotional rage.

Yeah, you know, Jonathan Turley talks about we live in the age of rage. Well, what is rage come from? Rage can come from legit wrongs being done, but today rage is based on lies. Yeah. On the left, when they come out and they're raging all the time like her, go, go, billionaires contribute not to go to Florida. Go, you know, contribute to, you know, anyway. And if you have

“105 million dollar, you know, apartment on billionaires row, then that affects all the property”

values of the middle class. No, it doesn't. No. No. I mean, it completely and totally clueless.

No idea how comms work. Otherwise think about that. Yeah. It's great. If you're, if you're looking at comms, even comms within your own neighborhood, people think, um, well, since the house down the street sold for more, my value is going to go up, right, or it's sold for less. Mine's going to go down. That's not necessarily the case. Because that house may have all the updates and yours has none or vice versa. It's, but with the billionaire thing, plus the market

is different, too. It's a completely different market of real estate. Right. The customer base or right, respective customer base is vastly different. That billionaires row does not compete with the house in Queens. No. No, it does not. You know, and that's, that's the point she's trying to make. It's like saying, well, it's, it's like saying that the price of a house in Queens, because it sells for much less, actually affects negatively the value of billionaires row. Right. Exactly.

Right. You can't make that case. No, you can. And so it's, this is the, this is what I would say to anybody who has this weird mindset and ignorance on how it all works. If you don't, if you think the billionaires shouldn't exist, hand over your cell phone, your laptop, all your internet use. Well, real estate, real estate development. We can, we can go into the innovations

“Amazon. Hand over all of these conveniences that you must have if you think about the wealth that is”

created. These innovators are driven like Warren Buffett. We talked about it. Now, he's more about investment, not so much innovation. But if you talk about Steve Jobs, if you talk about Jeff Bezos and innovation, that continues to expand. Right. And bring about whatever it's going to be. They're offerings under their brand. Those are things that create conveniences, jobs, and make it more efficient in our life. And to say that there is no value that, they, they're just

pointing at the money they've created. The money for them, while it's certainly nice, I'm sure, is not the point. It is the innovation. It's watching their brainchild, all the sudden go to boom, fruition, next thing you know, you've got a global business and tens of thousands of employees. And it's, it's one of the most ignorant things you'll hear that audio cut when it comes

about buying a second home, right, this whole thing about New York and the second home,

“the money spent to furnish a home like that. Think about all the people involved. The money to”

maintain the tax money on that which, by the way, they wanted to be a hell of a lot more. All of this goes to support the local economy. And there's no way around it. And if you don't know that, you know, nothing about how any of this works. You know, something that was a dissatisfaction about in his state about property taxes, he goes, well, we're already treats second homes differently. Yeah, we've homestead exemptions. Right. And he said, so we, you know, we most states do that, you know,

to, you know, to begin with. But I air the, the one thing and we've talked about this before, you know, what drives all of this? People have their particular ideology that you made that you made disagree with, but what drives people to those particular opinions? And we've come back over and over again to jealousy and envy. Yeah. And I just, you know, even, you know, we talk about, you know, the, the, the populist Republican, the Josh Holley's, you know, these credit card companies,

we need to 10%, because basically, you know, he's on the bandwagon, the corporations or somehow evil, but everything is done voluntarily. Right. You know, but he's on it too. It's a popular thing to be envious in jealous and, and it's a popular thing as a politician to throw that out, because I care about you, the worker, not these big corporations, you know, okay, you're good as an individual,

“they're evil because they're part of a profit-making company. Right. Well, that's based on what?”

What is that based on? What evidence? What evidence is that based on? It's based on envy and jealousy, not that there aren't companies that don't do things wrong, just like there aren't individuals that do things wrong. Right. I don't judge all individuals as one group because you judge people individually and by the things that they do and you do the same thing with companies. Right. But to sit there and say and try to make the opinion that this country's being destroyed because of billionaires

and corporations is completely and totally, non-fact-based. It's the biggest flaw you can throw out there, but it's driven by envy and jealousy and the interesting thing is where does that come from in an individual? I know, you know, I know that there are people, I know people that, you know, when they were growing up and they attained something, their friends were jealous. They were envious. And then I look at my life and the things that I wanted to do and, you know, the friends that

that I have and I'm sure I'm going to see, you know, my dear friends, Gerry and Mary and Gerry and Florida. Oh, there's trouble to come in. There's a storm of trouble coming, but, you know, you know, Gerry and I, you know, we've talked about my buddy, my Gerry is one of my best friends,

my buddy, Jeff. We've always encouraged each other. I don't think there's ever been an ounce of

jealousy or envy for anybody's success. It's go for it, go for it, go for it, go for it. It's amazing because, uh, and I really recognize this as a talk show host, you know, just analyzing things. It didn't take me long, you know, probably in the mid 90s. Right. When it was like racism, it was the biggest problem. I went, uh, you know, when I figured out just by observing, it's envy and jealousy. And I'm not kidding. I'm not trying to put myself or you because I know

you're not driven by this either. It's just the way it's the environment that I grew up in my mom and dad. Yeah, a huge influence on that was don't pay attention to anybody else, what they're doing. You do what you've got to do and you encourage other people and you support other

“people. That's how I was brought up. It's as natural, you know, as, as, you know, as wanting to live.”

Well, you know, and, and for me, if, if you were impressed by somebody else's success,

it, it never became envy and jealousy. It became, okay, then find out how they got from A to B.

Find out how they did that. If you're impressed by that. If that encourages you, yeah, then then let it, let it ride, go out there, get the education, get into that industry,

of what it takes. If Jeff Bezos were still in his garage selling books. Well, we'd still be getting that, uh, it was, it was the old, allow four to six weeks for delivery from Battle Creek, Michigan. That's right. I'm available in Hawaii Puerto Rico. By the way, Bart's a poochipsy, ton of audio cuts coming up. Bezos went viral yesterday. Yeah. I don't have to comment, said he had on CNBC, but we'll get to that coming up. But these innovations,

“the smartphone, right? Come on, you life is completely different than 20 years ago because”

that's right. Right. Think, if you think about that, if you, if you follow Warren Buffett, again, he didn't, he's not creating things. He's not, it's not innovation, except for it's an innovative approach. Well, actually, it's a very basic approach by Loan Selan. But it's through innovation. He's, he's been able to kind of teach what he invests in. Why and why? And those are things that people can learn from. If you're watching these things, it's like, okay, what's

you doing? Do I expect to be worth 100 billion? Nope. Is it, is it even my goal? Nope. I want to be

prepared for retirement. Older Eric needs to eat. I've repeat that all the time. Older Eric's going to need this. But the point is with, you know, we mentioned Buffett. He creates jobs all the time. Oh, yeah. By investing. Yes, just because I've a family member. Because the, the left looks at it and says these people have all this money and all this money. And that could be used to help people. It is. It is helping people. It is what you, what do you think drives, and, and it's basically

the misunderstanding that what really drives an economy is producing a durable good or service. Yes. Or being involved in the infrastructure that produces that. Anything surrounding that

“producing a durable good or durable service. And that's why, for example, when we talk,”

we talked about it the other day just to just in case people have never thought about this.

When we're talking about sports stadiums. Yeah. Sports stadiums don't, you know, you, you may create jobs. But once it's built, you're not creating wealth. Right. There is no wealth that's being created in there. You're not expanding wealth. You're simply taking recreational dollars that would go over here and putting it over there. Right. That's why if the choices, as we said before, building a billion dollar stadium for, for a, a billion air, well, dog on and I'm jealous of it. Well, then

don't, don't build his factory. Right. That's your problem. Right. But, you know, when you look at, we can't give tax breaks to corporations that expand wealth by producing goods and services. That, that, you know, you expand wealth by, by creating, you know, the services which services also create efficiency and productivity, which is also about actually economic growth. Right. It gets us producing durable goods and services. And in doing that, you improve also productivity

“and efficiency and that's why when the productivity numbers come out, that's always so critically”

important. Right. How's our productivity doing? Are we being more productive as a society as part of an economy? Right. And so that's the entire point. So if you're, if you're just an investor,

if you've set, if you've got a billion dollars and it's just sitting there, you're creating jobs.

Yeah. Well, you're just, you're sitting there and, and you've got a billion dollars and, and you're getting, uh, you know, you're getting, uh, earning 50 to 100 million back every year. You're just, you know, writing the gravy train. Why are you getting money back because you're creating something exactly. Nobody pays for nothing. Right. We are Red Eye Radio. Coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Carley, it's Red Eye Radio.

audio cuts as we have said are just so beautiful because they, they show really, uh, whether it was the author, Friendly, but we played earlier this hour that was talking about that billioners are useless, just go leave. They don't create any jobs. They don't do anything. Show's just a basic,

“complete cluelessness on economics and, and that's one thing I think I'm really surprised at as,”

you know, in the media today. And I know the media's expanded because of the internet. How many people get a national stage at a completely clueless? Right. And no idea how the world works at all. Right. And, and the dollar and/or they want other people to be clueless. You know, yeah, I think they're clueless, but they certainly want other people to be ignorant. Out to the hour news is brought to you by how products is at how products.com.

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Well, two deaths yesterday, former Congressman Bernie Frank, Dynet age 86. We've already discussed it. We've, you know, we've already discussed it. I read yesterday where it's like, he came up with some of the, you know, the best legislation. After the downfall, you know,

to regulate banks and do this and you and I are always just like, and I'm not going to get into it

because I don't want to be too negative, but he, he kept what happened in 2008, 2009 going. He wanted the government involved in the mortgage business, which was the creation. If government wasn't involved in the mortgage business, 2008, 2009 would not have happened. Well, it was, in fact, when then Treasury Secretary Snow in 2003 was

“testifying before the committee. And he was, I believe Frank was the chair of the committee,”

saying that Fannie and Freddie cannot sustain this. This, we can't keep this going.

And they decided, he said no, actually, the problem is we're not doing enough of these loans,

basically, subprime loans, so they rammed him up. You know, again, my thoughts and prayers were his family and friends in a situation like this, but those are the conversations we've had over the years about a Barney Frank. And then after it all happened, he was on CNBC one day and said, well, I've never promoted home ownership. I think people should run apartments and then there are loans actually crashed at CNBC. We were told because people wanted to call them out on that,

but, you know, I mean, he was a mainstay for a long time in Congress on Capitol Hill. And then we had Robert Woodson, senior yesterday, who died was the head of the Woodson Center. You'd see him on Fox News a lot. You know, he was part of the civil rights movement. He was a part of the NAACP in the 60s. Left that came to the realization that the federal government

was never going to be the savior of the inner city. Right. Right. Believe that you had to rely on

yourself, you know, you find, you find the entrepreneurs that are in these places and you support them.

“Yeah. That's, you know, how you do it, but very, very interesting man. I think a man”

that probably saw a lot of the failures of liberalism and a big government spending, which he, I think realized, was not the solution to save many, many urban areas. And so he was, I think it was 89 years of age, but always fascinating to listen to him. Yeah. If you ever saw an interview with him, it'd be fascinating to, and the more, you know, the one thing that I always didn't like about when Robert Woodson senior spoke so many of the times, it was a two or three

minute interview. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I wanted, you know, I go back to, you know, let's, let's go back

we've talked about Milton Friedman before the late economist. But, you know, when he would go on Phil Donney, he'd have an all, a whole hour. Yeah. And, you know, if you've ever, if anybody's ever

“rented the, or rented the DVD, if, if, if, if, if you want to use your VCR this weekend,”

get out of VHS and whatnot, I think you can still get the DVD, though, free to choose, I think it is. And, and some of the, the greatest things that used to be on, whether was, you know, you know, PBS or whatever, the long, the, the, the long debates he would have with, with, with union leaders and liberals on everything, you know, from, from tariffs to government spending to taxes or whatever.

And, I'll never forget him. There's, and I know it's in the free to choose. You probably can

find it online, also on YouTube, on him, I'll never forget the one, him and Thomas Seoul going after going after, you know, the, the, the union leaders. Yeah, you know, and going after unions, not based on, you know, not wanting workers to be profitable, yeah, but wanting workers to be profitable and believing the unions, you know, worked in the opposite direction. And, you know, we, we can look at it. You and I look at when the unions just came out a couple of years ago,

“remember when the UAW, you know, we support the companies doing electric vehicles and we like”

you're signing your own death warrant. Right. What are you doing? Right. It's not going to work. Right. You're supposed to be, you're supposed to care about the people that work, you know, for you when we look at the, remember the coal miners union, endorsing Obama. And it was like, what do you, it's stupid? What in the world's going now? You're not working for the best. The, the union leadership over the years, completely working against what the union worker wanted.

And that was, you know, not pro illegal immigration. Right. And, and so, you know, you can, and so

those were just, those were great debates. And that's the one thing with Woodson. I always wanted

to see him on a long, hour-long interview to tap into his mind precisely, because you know,

“today we have the one or two minute interviews. Yeah. Yeah. And you walk out going, I've learned nothing”

here. I've learned, I've learned some new slogans. I don't care about the slogan. I don't need a catchphrase. Right. And, and that's the, the one thing. And, you know, the, the, the, that was the one thing. And I've seen some long form, but not enough of, of Robert Woodson. But then again, he was probably busy doing, you know, what what he wanted to do was actually help the economies in, in urban areas across the, the, the country, but it doesn't matter. You still got

as a leader. You've always got a market it, which he did. Yeah. But it's like, yeah, it is the, you know,

you look over the last 10 years away that everything is, you know, very quick. You know, there are you people get, oh, my attention span. Mine isn't, you know, I love, you know, the, the long form interviews. It's one of the reasons that I pay not to have commercials on YouTube. Right. Because then I don't have to be interrupted. Right. And, you know, I can watch a 45 minute interview an hour interview, which used to be standard Eric, you know, 40, 50 years ago. Yeah. And it's not

anymore. And that's a shame. But, you know, Robert Woodson, great, great ideas and actually, you know, put them to work in many urban areas across the United States. So, yeah. All right, here we go. Man, we're, this is like, again, one of those days where it's like, I don't know where to start. Well, we all know that the United Nations is backed off on a lot of their climate hysteria saying, okay, all these doomsday scenarios, probably we went a little bit too

far on it. They haven't completely compensated, but they're slowly moving their, they're, they're moving back on, on all of it. Right. And we had discussed it here over the last couple of days. And one of the things that we had always said is that every doomsday scenario ever that has ever come up, whether it's Al Gore, Leonardo DiCaprio, the United Nations, any Democrat politician out there, all the doomsday predictions not one ever came true. Yeah, right. Now one, right. One ever came

All these, the, the, there will be no ice on the polar ice caps by 2013, none of them came true.

“And we asked the question, when you are, when you are selling your ideology”

with predictions that you have 0% credibility on because you've been 100% wrong. Why is it wrong to question the credibility of the so-called, quote, science that we're using and questioning your credibility when you've been wrong time and time again, why should we believe the next thing that comes out of your mouth? Why should we do it? And, and over and over again,

they have to ramp it up. You know, we talked about the movie the day after tomorrow,

which if you're, if you're going to try and make the case, isn't that the worst effort ever? If you're going to try and make the case, we're climate change.

“That was the worst way to do it. Man, hadn't filled with water in 10 minutes and then it”

freezes in 10 seconds. Large chunks of ice falling from the sky. Now, I don't know how many people actually took that as a warning, yes, as a, as a documentary. But because it was beyond silly, but they were trying to make a point, these promises or warnings that they've given over and over again, go nowhere and where they want them to go is regulation. And, you know, I think they thought they had won. I really believe they thought they had won. If you think about the EV mandates,

and you mentioned the UAW, well, the EV mandates was kind of that tipping point. We can't sell these cars. We can't make a profit and the demand has slowed greatly with the government money.

Now, you know, not being a part of it, it's not an organic supply and demand situation. It'll never work.

And, and that tipping point when the wind company started saying, yeah, we can't make it happen, look, you still got a couple of major companies that are out there. Was it GM the other day that was trying to say, oh, no, no, no, no, we're still, we're still, that's still a priority. Yeah,

“no, it's not. Remember when we profit is your priority? We talked about this the other day,”

when, yeah, you're right. We talked about this the other day. Again, remember when it was a GM, they was talking about, and this car gets 250 miles to a gallon. It was a plug-in hybrid. Yeah, the volt. And it's like, you can't count the plug-in. You can't count the plug-in, you know, as gas mileage, because you're plugging it in. Right. The batteries are charged. Right. You can't then say after you charge the car that, well, we've got 250 miles per gallon driving,

you know, from here to there, or, you know, this is what we averaged for a week in the city when you're plugging the damn thing in, because you're not using gasoline when you plug it in. Any idiot knows that, but they were marketing it based on them believing the stupidity of the American public that is absolutely clueless on any type of engineering concepts. You see the motorhomes pulling a car, right? They pull their whatever car they're going to be

pulling behind. You know, that's, I saw it when yesterday. It was a Jeep. It was like, and I thought to myself, well, if I'm going to do that, it'll be a Jeep, right, is something cool fun, whatever. And, and I thought to myself, the same thing, because we were talking about this Chevy, well, like, that Jeep is getting, you know, 5000 miles per gallon. No, infinity. Infinity. Infinity as it's being towed. Right. It's getting infinity now. Right. We're not using any,

we're not using any gas from that gas tank and that Jeep. Exactly. Yeah, but you're using it in the damn RV. Yeah, that's right. Like, no, we don't count that. No, we're talking about the Jeep.

bring racism. What? I've done racism. Commend to them. Wow. Wow. That's how we do things as

liberals. That's right. We can't make the argument. You're a racist. Your bigotry makes me want to stop talking to you. I would talk to you about the engineering concepts, but since you mentioned that the fact that the RV is using all the gas or diesel to pull that thing along with it, that's where the energy is being expended. Right. You're a racist. Right. Why? Well, because marginalized communities are being affected by climate change. That's right. And therefore,

“but it doesn't got nothing to do with the engineering. I remember how you do this.”

Is everybody all you're doing is being negative with your facts and whatnot? No, it is. I'm

getting a headache. No, this is it. You know, it really is like running a daycare. I've never

run a daycare, but it must be like running a daycare. Because it's every single day, there's something new. You're just arguing with children. Now, hopefully take care of some of our doing with children. There's hopefully they're not having stupid debates like this one. No, no, no, they're just brainwashing. Yeah, exactly. There's a lot of argument back from the kids. Peter, my screen nap time. You want the ice cream? Yeah. You're not going to live past 15.

Yeah. Here's your ice cream, kid. Hey, you want to live past 15? Because the world's going to be

“gone because of climate change. Here's your ice cream. Yeah. But, but, but, but didn't you have to”

use fossil fuels to create that ice cream? So if I'm eating the ice cream, aren't I just throwing

the planet? Yes, see your evil too. That's right. By the way, your mom's 15 minutes late shows how much she cares about you. Anyway, but don't say we couldn't be liberals. Look at this here. No, I said I think I said it was a lab. I don't know if we could fake it. Well, yeah, absolutely. Well, because what is faking it? You're lying, making things up. Which is exactly what they're doing. If they can live in a fantasy world, why not? We are

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We'll be right back with more Red Eye Radio with every currently end Gary McNamara. We are on our radio. He's her currently and I'm hearing McNamara. So as the UN international climate change, whatever they're called, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Backing off on all the doomsday predictions that they've been making, we told you so. Yeah. Uh, interesting. We'll have this coming up following the bottom of the hour. A former climate

activist. And it's just fascinating how she, uh, she's, she's gone viral on a bunch of different videos over the last couple of months where she said I spent half my 20s as a brainwashed climate activist. And we got a couple of audio cuts here about how she talked about being in that mindset and the peer pressure around the climate activism. And now she works for, yeah, now she works

Uh, the silence is violence mentality. You've got to go along, not just to get along,

but for you'll get called out. But she does make the point about the race stuff that we talked about with climate change, also. Yeah. Right. The ridiculous stuff. Mm. Ted, when I radio live every night, I'm a red eyed radio actor, they're the whole in the actor, red. And he is there. Crony, I'm Gary McNamara, download our red eyed radio app today. You can listen, when and where you choose, uh, coming up in just a one minute, uh, the climate

activist, the former climate activist, about why she was a climate activist. Mm. Coming up.

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Bigger is, and she used to be part of the climate movement. Yeah. And over the last few months, she'd been doing, she's working for the free press now. And it's really interesting. I'm just going to play the audio. And there's a couple of audio cuts that we have here about how she left it. And there's one audio cut about how she left it and why she left it. And then, she said, uh, she actually right, this is a quote from her, "I thought being a climate activist

would atone for me being white." So when you and I are talking about the climate change stuff, if you're a racist, you can't be white and even have an opinion on climate change because you're

privileged. So let's listen. Yeah. That's coming up in the in the second on your cut. Let me

cut. Oh, I have no idea why I am having other problems. Let me just make sure I have nothing else that's open here. Give me one second. All right. Is everything fine now? Okay. Everything's cool. Good to go. All right. Here we go. I don't know if that was my fault or not. All right. Some windows open. I'll say it's your fault. Okay. All right. Here we go. This is her name is Lucy Bigger.

“She now works for the, uh, I was going to say Barry White's free press CBS's free press, right?”

I still like to call it Barry White's first and you can't make me change. I know they technically own it, but she created it. Okay. Here we go. I think I need to do a little reintroduction for people on here who I am. So I'm Lucy Bigger's right now. I'm the head of social media for the free press. But for five years of my 20s, I was a climate activist. I interviewed Greta Thunderd. I interviewed AOC. I pushed ideas like the Green New Deal, plastic straw bands, plastic bag bands.

Anything you could think of that is like the typical climate activist. I pushed those things from half my 20s. And that time, I got a lot of value from being part of the group. I identified as a climate activist and I thought I was on the right side of history and that these ideas were

“so important to push. Even during the time when I was really deep in the climate movement, I would”

have some questions like why we're protesting pipelines when the pipelines were already approved. Maybe we should have done that or the fact that the, you know, oil pipelines are better for the

plastic has a lower carbon footprint than glass and wood. Like I would sometimes see these contradictory facts, but my ideology and identification was so tied up in the group that when I would see those things, I would push them away. That all changed when I left my last job where I'd been

“in a visible role as a climate influencer. And I live through COVID and I had my first son. And I think”

those two experiences of living through COVID and seeing the entire world shut down, plastic poll are proliferated everywhere, but it was like not a big deal. And then our carbon emissions only dropping by maybe 5%, maybe it was like 20% at its peak. But barely making a dent in our climate emissions even though the world was shut down. And that's when I started to think, what is a kind of movement at wanting for us? Because if they want to get our emissions down to zero, that

would require destroying our wildlife, then I read a book, a pop-up apocalypse never by Michael

Schellenberger, who's a former Korean activist and then Steve Koonin, who's a scientist who worked for President Obama. He wrote a book called Uncettled and it went into all the things that we don't understand about climate change. And it made me realize that this climate narrative, this black and white thinking that I was pushing, that climate change was an existential threat. And that the world was going to be destroyed by it was not true. And that the truth was much more complex.

Learning all this stuff, I went basically radio silent for five years and I took a job behind the scenes at the free press, we're in the head of social media. And I basically thought I would never be in front of the camera again, because I did not want to go against the group of pushing against a climate change narrative. It's such an entrenched ideology and there was just no outside. But then this past spring, my younger son, I now have two boys that are almost

four and almost two. My younger son turned one and I think if you're a parent, you can understand this, like, or especially mom, it was almost like when my younger son turned one, I kind of had a lot a little bit more time to think about what I wanted to do with my life and what my values were. And I realized, like, I didn't want to be in my death that one day, having regrets of sitting on what was the truth because of fear over all.

There you go. That's that's an audio cut one, let's get to audio, because we could, we could tear that apart. I mean, in a good way, we could go through point by point on that and we will. But here's the next audio cut that she did. This was an interview that she's recently done that she posted. I think I think she just posted it. No, she didn't posted somebody else posted it, but this is here in the last couple of days. Okay.

Everyone who's white as a white supremacist, even if they don't know it, they're your racist.

“So, like, you should really question what you believe because more often they're not your racist.”

You have cisgender privilege. And did you think this one, this was happening where you like, actually, I, you know, I must be a white supremacist. I literally, which is like, I guess this is what has this true. Like, I was just like, I'm going to listen to my podcast, you know, which is like, POCs people of color. I'm going to listen to other people's perspectives and I'm going to sit down and and shut up essentially to listen to what

other people have to say. And nothing, they're doing it wrong. Obviously, I think historically, minority voices have been excluded from conversation. So, like, there's seeds of truth, right? But it just took it such to a degree where, you know, we threw out the idea of the MLK would say you should be judged by the content of your character, not the color of your skin. That was out the window. And it was like, everyone who's white and cisgender and privileged doesn't have a perspective here.

So, anyway, that's the culture of the newsroom. Not that anyone's like a gun in my head being like,

“you must believe this, but it was just the water that I was swimming in.”

And I want to be a good person. I'm not a noculated against these ideas coming out of the American

education system and we have social media online for the first time. So, it's not like my parents

can warn me of how these things work. Throw in the Slack channel where everyone group messages. So, it's public messaging and you very quickly just get a culture that's very ideological in the newsroom. And so, I just bought into everything because I wanted to be a good ally and I'm looking around at the ideology as it's really picking up in the 2017 and not post-Trump elected. And it's saying like, if you're a white person, if you're an American, if you're straight, you've all these

privileges. And so, to me, the climate movement was a perfect way to attone for the sins of my birth as being a privileged person. I can represent the indigenous Native Americans who have been historically oppressed. I can now help them. So, now I'm on the right side of history. I'm atoning for being descended from this oppressive group of people. And so, it was all in my psychology away to be a good person and fit in with the group which I felt wasn't going to accept me. If I

was just like a normal white person, he was like, actually, this country is worth defending.

Actually, I'm not racist. Like, I was never going to say that stuff. Wow. That's exhausting. Wow.

That can be weird to me. The hell out. I like that. No, that was, that's the perfect answer.

hours in the Texas sun today and felt nothing like what I just felt after I heard that audio cut.

Hey, it was partly cloudy. I need to late. No, it was sun at my house. I need to late down because that warming, my brain is numb. You know, but it does show what what would it does because we, we've often said, we want to get into the mind of liberalism. Yeah. And the fact is they, they don't speak. They don't speak until they reject liberalism. But she knew

“because we remember the keystone XL pipeline when when Biden stopped it and 10,000 people lost their”

jobs for nothing. Right. And then even you had Democrats come to him and say, no, you want the pipeline because there's less, you know, there's less carbon gases into the atmosphere than if you transport it by truck and by plane. So it's actually cleaner to do this. And it didn't matter. Yeah. He just said tens of thousands of jobs go away because the image, even if the, the, the image just not represent the reality, but all that matters is the image, she pointed out

all the different scenarios that she was thinking of the entire time. Well, this is actually helping. This isn't actually the truth. And kept quiet. And part of the reason she kept quiet was, she, you know, because of the peer pressure and also because of the racial element in it, she could not, she could not go after and say, this climate change stuff is stupid because she's wise. Yeah. And she's straight. Yeah. And if you're white and you're straight, you can't have an opinion.

How racist is that? Wow. And can you imagine even a five-year period? I can't imagine a five-year period in my 20s. Number one, uh, somebody's telling me,

“no, no, you need to go along with the peer pressure here and you need to shut up. I mean,”

my first response would be your first response. I think my whole life would be,

um, come here. Could you set it again to me? Yeah, you need to shut up because, uh, you're a white, cisgender, uh, a straight Irish man. You can go to help. Uh, yeah, right. I mean, that would be it. Yeah. But it's like, that's why it's exhausting all the mental gymnastics she had to do to stay in that coat. My gosh. A climate coat. And my question would be, why? Why? Because people wish to be accepted. That's what she wanted to. So, so what? So what? And she's jumping through how many

rings of fire did we hear there? You know, there really is something to our philosophy. Well, don't you care if you were accepted? I can give it down. I, you don't need to accept me. And I don't need to accept you. That's simple. My cat still likes me. Wow. That's the battle. Well, but to be fair, cats don't like anybody. Well, but the, but the other thing is, uh, we're not promoting things that somebody with the Nazi tattoo would be.

The things that we believe and the things that we promote. We're not, are good. We're not normal. We're not prone. Not separable. Right. Somebody who's just turning in right now has no idea how we started the show and why that. Well, that's their problem for being late. Right. See, it pays to be on time. But isn't that, it's exhausting. But it is amazing to actually hear it because you get into the mind of of somebody who was liberal. I wanted to be accepted. And,

and she actually thought that she was atoning as if her life has anything to do with anybody who was born in the past because of her skin color. Yeah. She bought into the races. Oh, she, she did.

“That's what it comes down to. Yeah. Is she felt guilty for being white? Let me be the hero.”

Yeah. You're never going to be the hero on the left. No, you're just not. Wow. Wow.

Seriously, you, you, you called it the exhaust. It's exhausting. We are Red Eye Radio. Coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Hartley. It's Red Eye Radio.

or thinking about that Lucy Bigger's the former climate activist. But you, you think about it.

“You know, Howard Saustin is because she felt pure pressure. She had white guilt, which basically”

she bought into the racism that they were selling her. Yeah. She knew the things that they were promoting. Right. We're counter to what they claim they believed in and still went along with it, knowing that it was false. And then even after she left the climate movement was afraid to

speak out on it until she finally said, well, I don't want to be sitting on my debt bed saying,

I didn't say what I really believed. Wow. Yeah. That would be exhausting. Even if she just went through that for, you know, she went through it for five years and then afterwards, you know, seven, eight

year period. I can't imagine going through that period of my life like that. No, not not being

“somebody who has individual thought. And that's how I'm going to judge things by facts. And if there's”

hypocrisy, even if it's somebody who I support or a friend, it's hypocrisy. I'll call him on it. Yep. This is Ridae Radio on Westwood One. Hello, America, Mark Levin here. Many people seem to be incubating a rage looking for somewhere to go. Are there times when you think the country is out of control? Do you see all these things and you wonder what in the world is going on? What's that this way? Five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago. Do we have the will or not? But we are Americans.

“And I believe we absolutely do have the will. I do this show for you. And when you're not interested”

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