05-28-26 Part Two - Defining the Far Right

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He is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. You've said this yesterday about this time, and I was thinking about it yesterday, and it was like, "Okay, let me see if I can find one." And it's when you said, and we got into discussion about,

you know, the far left and the far right, and it was based on, you know,

“somebody who said I think it was some voter who said,”

"Well, I don't know where I'm going to go, because all there is is the far right and the far left." And you made a great point, you said, "There's the far left, who's the far right and what is the far right?" Defying the far right.

And then we came up with the point that actually, Nazism and Communism is viewed as the far right. So the Democrats have the far right and the far left, what is the radical idea that is being promoted by Republicans? Right. What is so out of reach for this person who says,

"I consider myself a moderate Republican." Okay. What is so far to the right that you can't support it? Yeah. What is the issue that is that radical? Because if you look for example in packs and it's like,

you know, the impeachment tried, you know, his messy divorce, whatever. And it's like, that's going to be the highlight. And I'm like, "Hmm, you compare that to Nazis and Communists." And it's like, "Well, you know, how well was that going to really, really stick?"

But on the issues, what is it that the Republicans are incredibly radical about? Right.

“What is the issue that they're incredibly radical about?”

Right. What is it? Right. Where would it be? Where is it that you cannot support?

Because if this person claims to be a moderate Republican, well, there's no place for me. What is it that shuts you out? Tell me what is your or set of issues? Because this guy was saying he was a moderate Republican, right?

He said it in our party because of a facts and that's gone far right. And we've said that's just not true. In fact, the Republican party has moved further left and the Democratic party has moved insane left. Yeah.

It's so insane left that they've gone to the far right with Memdani and Mr. May Nazi. Yeah. Right.

“So they cover both the far left and the far right.”

But what is the radical?

What is the incredible radical position

that Republicans hold? Like Democrats, it's easy. A man can be a woman if a man says so. There are six biological sexes. Men should be able to wave their genitals in front of women

in the locker room. Men should compete against women. Yeah. You know, identity politics. Yeah.

And again, it's been brought up this week. It was brought up in the autopsy of the Democrats. One of the things that was correct in the autopsy of Democrats from 2024 is identity politics. Think about how many and verithal it is in 2026.

Yeah. Democrats, Republicans, could you please? I want money this year to become a political consultant. You can't communicate any damn ideas at all. Just do it for you.

Give us a couple of million dollars.

Also, I'll go one further. If we catch you listening to our program, you owe us money. But you know, the radical transgender movement, which is just so incredibly extreme and just insane. And then to be practicing racism in 2026 and have an institutionalized and systemic in your

And you know it is.

You know, you know, we know it's in the Democrat autopsy.

And by the way, nobody is saying that they disagree with that one. I didn't hear anything. That was not. That wasn't pushed back on that. There wasn't even mentioned that part of it.

No, that and that's we got to stop with the identity politics. We have to stop think County and verithal it is of the official position of the Democratic party. It's to judge people by groups and not individuals. I mean, that's radical. You know, sanctuary cities.

We wish to defend. We wish it's more important to protect the freedom of an illegal immigrant criminal.

Outside of being in the country illegally.

Another criminal act. It's more important to protect them. Yeah. Then citizens of the United States. Right.

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“But I think it's got what is the issue that is unbelievably as radical as anything that the Democrats are throwing out right now.”

The anti-Semitism for God's sakes Israel. Forget about the religion. Israel is a modern Western democracy that allows other religions. Yes. They are a modern Western democracy.

Iran has been the leading exporter of terrorism. And is an authoritarian theocracy dictatorship. Yeah. That murders their people. I mean, it's not even close.

Do our things, are there things that we disagree with the Republican Party and Trump on? Yeah. And it's the part where they're not conservative enough. Where we get upset of the Republican Party is that they're moving to populist left, especially on fiscal issues. Right.

On social issues, they're not. On fiscal issues, they are. And the debt's going to be a problem down the road. And selling bogus economics is ridiculous. And we mentioned it yesterday.

You know, you look at the people that are perceived to be conservative. Josh Hawley is as to to me with the things he's promotes. This is bad viscally as a Bernie Sanders in the stuff that he promotes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

We've talked about it with the credit cards and everything else. And going after big corporations and, you know, it's ease of populist left. Yeah.

“And so, you know, the only thing people disagree with us, you disagree with the fact to work conservative.”

Conservative slash libertarian. Because we believe the government should be slash superhero. Yeah. So I just thought about it yesterday, but even with where I disagree, where the Republican party is not conservative enough, I can't tell you the issue when people start throwing out that crap.

I don't know because Paxton defeated Cornan. The Republican party is far right on what issue. All right. Yeah. Because it all comes down to issues.

Well, I think he's an idiot. And I believe he could be corrupt. And I believe that his divorce was messy. And therefore he's right wing. Well, there may be flaws, but that doesn't make him right wing.

“Right wing is on an issue on what issue are the Republicans far right?”

Like I said, far right.

Well, the Democrats got that sewn up now.

Yep. They even have tattoos. Hey, do you get your, get your Platner tattoo yet? Yeah. So I got a new tattoo, guys.

What is it? It's a Nazi tattoo. No, seriously, what is it? I mean, when you think about the misogyny and the sexism of the radical transgender movement,

the racism of identity politics of judging people by groups and not individuals.

The racism of anti-Semitism. The wanting to protect illegal immigrant criminals over the safety of American citizens. It's, it's mind by, it's not even in the same ballpark. The far left is compared to this imaginary far right that supposedly exists in the Republican party. I don't know where it is.

Right. Yeah, no. Are there healthy disagreements? Yes. Yeah, sure.

That's been the case for a while.

Are there healthy disagreements on the issues? Yeah. But there should be in a political party. Right. The article is telling you about that, I saw in the National Review that was Democrats need to learn

how to fight each other. And they talk about Republicans going back and forth and talking about, you know, just what's going on right now in a variety of different issues. He said there are a long-term structural reasons related to the globalization that caused Republicans to enter into a state of civil war. But there are the same reasons why populism has divided right wing parties across the West in the past decade.

“And that's what we've talked about when it comes to, you know, the, what we say is moving to the left from from free markets as we have seen at times in the, in the Republican party over the last few years.”

In fact, this fight is for the soul, the Republican party is ongoing. Here's the battle cries among those who are already partisans for Marco Rubio or JD Vance as a successor to Trump. Yeah. Yeah. The civil war within the GOP has, of course, hampered Trump and setting his own agenda is often settled for passing the priorities of his parties adversaries.

But it's also helped to keep him the main character in American politics, even in his poll numbers dip. The Democrats, meanwhile, have a serious brand problem that hasn't been solved by Trump for ray into Iran or the unpopularity of his tariffs. The 2020, 2025 CNN poll found that only 16% of Americans said Democrats had stronger leaders and Republicans. Even then more respondents saw incumbent Republicans as the party of change. Maybe Democrats lost their brand as the party of the future and have changed because they've stopped debating how that future will look.

They've lost the mantle of the party of change because the party is so settled in its identity, which is crazy. Right now the Republican party is uneasy, but noisily accommodates people with different views on how the global economy should be engaged.

“Can Democrats even accommodate voters who think girls should compete only on girls teams?”

It's not clear. Well, it is clear. No, they can't. Yeah. No.

And those are all great points that were made that we've made before. What are the Democrats ideas about America's role in the global economy or is a geostrategic actor? Well, you can have every flavor of globalism offered by the Kennedy School of Governments. It seems that the Democrats have a more progressive and less progressive wing. Sure, AOC and Spanberger have different priorities.

But for the most part, Democrats revert to a hive mind in 2020 during the COVID emergency. And in the weeks after the death of George Floyd, that meant that everyone in the party shifted dramatically to the left and started sharing their pronouns. Yeah.

“I think if Democrats want to fix their current brand, when 70% of voters view them as out of touch, they need to start having big public fights with each other,”

that give more voters a stake in that party and its future. Yeah. What they did mention there, though, is something that we've mentioned over and over and over again, which is really long term, the biggest problem for the Democratic party. And you can even say, the election of Donald Trump, it became a problem again, and that's when you practice identity politics, along with there has to be more victims and therefore more oppressors, a political party has to eventually unite on a set of issues that will bring more people in.

And once you become the oppressor you're done, it's over.

There is no turning back, there is no forgiveness. There's the old term about eating their own, like Republicans have been good to separate themselves and sever someone from the party who doesn't belong and who's ethics don't match or politics don't match or whatever it is. And so that was, you know, seems like ages ago. Now when you compare it, especially to the Democrats and what they're doing in creating new oppressors every single day. Look, people don't believe it, but AOC's gotten scolded at her own hometown, home district meeting, oh yeah.

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Oh, I found a new political ad. This one for Karen Bass, for Mayor of the LA, from Hollywood star Samuel Lote Jackson. Alright, here we go, ready? Okay. These are the times we need someone who understands government who also understands the needs of the people.

Someone who go into streets and gather the people together. Not someone who buy Karen Bass is that person. Sam Bass for me. Say what again, say what again.

“What a horrible ad, the music behind it.”

They give him some sort of sedative. That didn't even sound like Samuel L. Jackson. That's why I knew the Lote would fit. You know what we need is we need somebody who needs it. No, what we need is the real Sam Lowe Jackson because we don't know who this guy is.

Say what again. Is it wrong to call her large mouth bass? Can we not do that? That be wrong. Maybe don't do that if she talks too much.

No, big mouth bass, small mouth bass. No? I don't know about fish names. That's politically incorrect or not. But since when do we care?

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And iRidiosio. And he is there.

Oh, you know, I was just thinking about the Samuel L. Jackson ad for Karen Bass.

And we know that really celebrities doing national ads doesn't have an effect at all. No, as we know, endorsements from.

“Does it, I guess my question would be, does that have an effect in LA?”

No, that's a good question. Because I end to what effect because. Okay. Samuel L. Jackson has become in recent years kind of like. Well, if you need the movie to be like if you need the trailer for the movie to be exciting.

Put them in the movie somehow, right? Kind of spice things up. And so I taught myself as I'm listening to the ad thinking to myself. Is that the way they're thinking of the campaign? You know, I call it.

The obligatory Samuel L. Jackson, which means, well, the movie's not, we don't think it's going to do well.

Call Samuel Jackson right apart for him in the movie. And it will do better, right? They just put him in the movie. And I'm thinking to myself, is that how they looked at it with the, with the bass campaign? Because he does not sound enthusiastic at all.

No, it's like, all right, I sort of have to do this. So would you please support Karen Bass? Because we can all go on the streets and gather.

“I mean, what, what the hell is, who, let me put it this way?”

Who the hell wrote that? Well, and we, and we will bring all people together. This isn't 1968. And it's, it's just weird because it doesn't sound like him at all. He sounds more like him when he's doing the capital one commercial.

You know? See, but, but, no, that's it. How dare he rep, how dare he represent? Even though it's a local race, it is national implications, as we know, because people are paying attention. It shows what direction California is going in.

Yeah. And Samuel, Jackson's sponsors evil credit card companies. The charge and credible interest rates. That's right. That don't extend credit to everyone at the, at the same rate.

Right. Uh-huh. That's going to be a problem. They, they are not credit card companies are not about equity and inclusion. Let me ask you, Mayor Bass, what's in your wallet?

[laughs]

Capital one, my first credit card by the way.

I still have it. It's, I, my, my credit card went to, my original credit card went to another bank. I got my first credit card in 1974. Uh, Marine Midland, which was a subsidiary of HSBC used to be a, it was in a number of states. But basically it was a New York bank.

Yeah.

“And that's why I started working as in 74 as a bill collector.”

Yeah. And I had the, they didn't have specific ATM cards for your checking account. But they had ATM cards for your credit card. Right. So, uh, I got a credit, I got a, uh, a credit card that they also attached my checking account to.

And they deposited, you know, you're electronic, you didn't get a check. They deposited right into your account back in 74. And so if you wanted to take it out, you could take it out of your credit card at that time. So I got a Marine Midland credit card. Take a guess what the credit limit was.

$100. $100. You probably said that that's probably why I knew that. I have said it. Yes.

I've said it in here. Yeah. $100. But that also would be about right for that time and that time in your life. Because it wasn't really extended the way it is now.

It was just over all to anyone. You know, back then. It was the 80s that was, if you think about the, uh, the department stores created their own finance arms or worked with banks to create their own department store credit cards. Right.

So that, you know, hey, you could get a, whatever, a card.

You could use that only to shop at their store.

“And you'd get a discount for using the card.”

Whatever. They still do that today. But it was the 80s. And then the building of malls. And the for those under the age of 90 of mall.

Was a building that had multiple stores under one roof. But it really expanded from there. And that's, you know, it wasn't. People didn't have that kind of credit extended today. I'm looking at it right now.

A hundred dollars and nineteen seventy four would be six hundred and seventy five dollars today. Wow. So when you think about it, if I started working at a bank, because I was, I worked part time during the year. Uh, and then full time during the summer. And I was going to college.

So if they gave me a credit card debit card, whatever.

So if they gave me a credit card, they gave me a credit card credit card.

So if they gave me a credit card credit card, they gave me a credit card credit card debit card. So if they gave me a credit card credit card, they gave me a credit card credit card credit card. And I just was employed there in a week. And they gave me a seven hundred dollar credit limit. That'd be pretty good.

Oh, yeah. No, I look at it. Yeah, right. I guess I'm not looking at a hundred dollars away. I did back then because it was such a long time ago.

That's what changed. People wanted these five and ten thousand dollar credit limits. And they wanted to go out and buy major purchases. You know, then electronics came around. You know, I mean, in a big way started to change and update to the point that everybody had to have everything.

You know, I've got to have the latest VCR. I need stereo isn't good enough. Yeah. I need quadrophonic. That's right.

Exactly. Remember quadrophonic? Yeah. No. It was all the wants.

Right. And then you would need. I remember going to the stereo store. Yeah. You get the big receiver.

Mm-hmm.

“And then you have to get the record player.”

Mm-hmm. And then the cassette deck. Mm-hmm. And then two young mungus speakers. Yeah.

Well, my dad was able to shop in Thailand before he came home for the Vietnam War. He brought it. He only brought a few things home. One of them was a stereo with a turntable. And it's the very stereo, the very turntable.

I first heard Eddie Van Halen on.

Oh, was it one of the receivers with the turntable built into it on top? Uh, no. Are they were separate? Yeah. Yeah.

So, but it was, you know, that was that, but that was that age of wanting. And then when you started getting cool cars, you had to have cool sound. So, you know, you get speakers and a stereo and the whole thing. That was a, you know, I looked back at that. And not only was it a great job because it, it opened me up.

“When you have to, you know, you're 18 years old.”

And I'm just a little shrimp. You know, making your first, you know, collection call. Hello, this is Mr. McNamara. You know, it's your, kind of as bad as do. I had not yet fully entered puberty.

And, you know, it, that happened on your 70th birthday. That's what all the celebration is about. That's right. I've just discovered this thing called women. Wow.

Have you heard of this thing called females? Man, they're attractive. Wow. Man. But, uh, and, and it taught me a lot.

That's where I learned that the, that, and I still think it is today. The number one thing that broke up marriages was financial stuff. No, actually it's listed as a, yeah, as, uh, I think it still is on the top of the list. I think I saw it just recently.

Somebody did it again. And I went, well, that's, it's pretty consistent over a half century. And, you know, I did it for two now. By the way, it's moved way up. He is, uh, Trump.

[laughter] [laughter] But that's only temporary. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no.

It'll be the next Republican then. Irrecommissible, maggot differences. Right. [laughter] But what I found out was, and, and I collected, uh, I collected, uh, line of credits.

And it's interesting because most banks have gotten rid of a separate line of, of credit account. But, uh, I know that when a couple of the banks that I worked at got rid of the line of credit accounts, they offer me a line of credit on my credit cards. Yeah. For a lower interest rate to get the cash.

Right, yeah, yeah. You know, so, but I haven't, I haven't got the offer in a while. They don't, I guess if I went into the bank and asked for a line of credit off it, they would do it. I, but I haven't got the advertised. I have three, um, and, but it has to do with the, the business, my wife and I are in.

And, and so I have three, but I can't, I can't remember. Well, the last time I used one. The, the thing about line of credits that, of course, made it different than a, than a, than a mortgage or even a car loan. 'Cause I, uh, you know, buddies that we're, we're doing that is, you know, no collateral.

You know, that's always the fear in a bank with the credit card.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or line of credit card. Right, insecure debt. And so, but the, so they stayed really on top of that. I mean, you made calls, you know, you were probably 16, 17 days. If the grace period went by and it was, it was 10 days and it was 15, 16, 17, you'd make a call.

Yeah.

“Well, because remember, for a while there, uh, and I think it was kind of overplayed a little bit in, in pop culture.”

Well, the idea would be, you overspend, you, you don't make your payments. And then the repo guy shows up and takes all your furniture out of your house. Well, they, I, I, I don't know to what extent they ever did that. I mean, I think they did to some extent. I don't know to what extent these days, that doesn't happen unless it's secured.

It's secured debt like with a car or a house or something. But we, we did not do that back. Right. Right. Yeah. So that 50 years ago, we did it. Well, it just, it, because it adds to the cost of, of, of collection and, and they just write it off. I don't know what write it off means, but they do and they just write it off. That's why they write it off. That's why they write it off.

Thank you, Kramer. Kramer from the side. And, and, but what I found out was it was the people, it wasn't, if you want to say, the, the, the middle class that was really the problem with the linkages. Because if you were a rate, if you were a factory worker or even a white collar worker with a regular job and wife and a kids, whatever, most of the time they called before it became a problem.

The problem came from people that were in the upper middle class. That if, for example, and I'll put it by today's salaries, that you're making $250,000 a year, you know, you were making 80 and all of a sudden boom.

And you start spending like you're making a million.

Yeah. Now, adjust that. We're not talking $19.74 when I, I'm using dollars of today. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and that was the problem. And they were just in denial that there was any problem.

Hmm. There's not a problem. What do you, but they're the ones that would get angry. Hmm. Uh, and we mostly, we worked with everyone because the last thing you want to do,

you don't want to, you don't charge off, we called it. Right. You don't want to write them off. No, no, no, no, I don't want to. Yeah, I don't want to write off on, on my, on my watch.

Right. And, and the bank had no problem saying, just pay interest for as long as you want. Or pay interest, not for as long as you want.

“I remember going six, seven, eight months with some people just paying interest on their line of credit.”

Right. Yeah. Now, at times, you know, if, if they started paying interest, you, you wouldn't remove the credit line. But if they started using it again, you would. Right.

You'd say, no, no, wait a minute. If you can't be adding a higher risk. Right. Right. You can't, we, you can't do, you can't do that.

Right. Yeah. But then again with the minimum payments today on credit cards. We're moving from line of credit over to credit cards. My God, you're almost just paying hold it low for the interest if you're paying the monthly payment.

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I can't imagine. We are right, I radio. Coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Hartley.

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Here's what he said back in 2021.

“We have, I think, heard more and more, um, issues of animal welfare.”

I think not just because it's the right thing to do in the moral thing to do. But also it's, as all of you know, necessary to fight climate change.

and that we try to respect animals and all aspects of society.

“And so I, I am proud to say that our campaign, um, has officially become a non-meat campaign.”

So we, um, have, we are, uh, we are only buying vegan products from our local vegan businesses.

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