06-08-26 Part One - California's Flawed Election System

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He is Eric Hurley, and I'm Gary McNamara, good morning. Hello. Hey, I just was reading here, the show's intro interrupted my reading. Again, what were you reading? As reading John Fund from National Review, California's election system is a disgrace.

And just writing here, because people will know this, California has deliberately slowed down ballot counting to accommodate its chaotic expansion of mail and voting. The Washington Post editorial board calls the Golden State in this regard a national embarrassment the New York Times size that California's elections are in the pre telegraph error. The system is designed is indeed a designed mess.

A voter can return a ballot in any county in California, no matter which county that voter

“is registered in a decade ago, California legalized ballot harvesting, which allows anyone”

to collect and deliver a limitless number of mail and ballots, which increases the risk of fraud or coercion.

The state mails ballots to all registered voters, 23.2 million of them ballots received by officials

up to seven days after the election day are counted. Well, Tom Delbacero, a former GOP state chairman told me that he has received four duplicate ballots at his address and that his neighbors often get ballots for people who no longer live there, a lawsuit against California's Secretary of State by the nonprofit organization judicial watch claims that there are 873,000 people on the state's voter registration roles

who have moved or died or who don't have an address, but are still getting ballots. In 2024, a previous judicial watch lawsuit had forced Los Angeles County to remove 1.2 million in active voter registrations. Then there's the issue of signature verification, LA uses machine scanners to compare signatures on mail and ballots to all the signatures in a voter's registration file in California,

each county sets its own threshold for ballot authorization, ballots that meet or exceed it are automatically approved and rarely get a manual review. Sometimes even ballots that are initially rejected are flagged for scrutiny can be cured if the voter corrects and he falls more over a state who claims a voter who claims to be able to sign, can make a mark instead of witness, of then supposed to sign below, however,

a former Los Angeles election official admitted to me that no address for a witness is requested and that witness signatures are not verified. And that's it, you know, when you look at the voter ID and everything else, Republicans should be pounding on it. Oh my god, they should be pounding on another department of justice is looking into it.

I know that there's a referendum for voter ID as he had mentioned in the article, I didn't read that part of it, is apparently there for November, but when you have no voter ID, that's it right there. And you know, right there is where you've got to focus and say, look how long it takes, because everybody knows what an embarrassed minute is. And the Supreme Court may come in, and next the, you know, taking ballots after election day by the way, too. Yeah,

Supreme Court might come in on that one, it looks like, you know, who knows how they were thinking, but it looks like was it Roberts? I forgot who it was, who said, it's why they call it election day. That was that Roberts of course, it was one of the, yeah, one of one of them said, well, it's called election day for a reason. Right. Well, well, you know, because you could extrapolate it out seven days, but why just seven days,

You can make excuses after excuse. If it's not in, it's not in. It doesn't count period.

“And as you're right here, it's clear that California has a system that favors flexibility”

at the cost of certainty, reliability, and efficiency. Every other state manages to count its votes in a somewhat timely manner, said California Congressman, Kevin Colleen, independent who sits in the house with the GOP, California's inability to completely handle the basic administration of democracy is embarrassing. It also indicates why our state has so many other problems. But the fact is, because it takes so long and because of no voter ID and because

of the rampant ballot harvesting, there's no confidence in that system. No, no, there's no, now,

do I think it would make a difference? Do I think that that that Hilton or Platte have a chance in hell of ever holding office? No, but I thought that before everything that has happened now?

“But because the people that are left in California, what you have to understand”

is this has been going on for a long time, the high prices have been there for a long time, the people of the majority of voters in California, they're getting exactly what they want. Same in New York. I'm beyond the thing that there's this secret that the fraud is so great

that no Republican votes are being counted. Is there fraud? Of course, sir is. Well, again,

them cheating in California in order to favor the Democrats as sorry. It's like, you know, or regular, you know, it's not, you know, because that's the whole idea, even if you got voter ID in California, you know, you get voter ID in California, how much is it going to change? Let me funny, you've been changing. If you have this, you know, if you change the entire system to where it was should be, I suspect zero would change and it's not going to

change in our lifetime, but it doesn't matter. The Democratic Party, they're the one screaming Trump is a threat to democracy. You're telling me this, isn't it? And Democrats in California wanted to do everything to ensure that the possibility of the chances of fraud is the greatest that they can possibly make it because they believe it will go in their direction. Well, because

“otherwise voter ID, that's why the public sees it and, you know, even the Democratic Party,”

landslide numbers of Democrats want voter ID, California doesn't. If you don't want voter ID, there's only one reason you don't want it. Because you want it. You want it. And this is what it comes down to is that, all right, so let's see, they see a red district and that red district gets close, right? And it's about to turn blue. Oh, you start, you might change a seat or two through cheating. It's the state itself is going to be blue, but there are still one or two

districts in California and that makes a big difference. Think about it. It's, you don't have to go through the whole, you know, of redrawing the district lines and and cracking and packing of redistricting. You don't have to do that anymore. It's, you know, for the, or if you, if you don't have voter ID, it's not necessary because you can encourage and end their, their system that allows seven days, seven, well, why not keep the polls open for seven days later than election day.

I mean, how far you want to take it? Yeah, it's, and, and so the, the taking so long just adds to the perception of an election being rigged, not wanting voter ID, the, the, the, the, the, the the ballot harvesting, allowing not doing it where they can take care of it on election day, with all the mail in ballots counted as they are in the vast majority of every, every, of every state, the, the perception of fraud is can be just as bad as actual fraud or the perception of fraud

or putting in policies that encourage fraud, you can't sell to the American public. But I think

it's roughly about 30%, which is roughly where California is. I mean, it basically matches all the polls,

“the, the, basically matches the polls out there. You have a state that, that, I saw the other”

day, it's like the Democrats have beaten down the public so much. They don't even know how good it could be in a state. Yeah, right, and I bring that over the weekend that they're just beat down so much. Well, it's like communism. It's just like communism. I mean, that's where they're headed anyway, but think about it. If you live in communism all your life, then you become conditioned to well, the government gives us everything we need. You know, and when communism fell,

we talked about this recently, when communism fell, people had real fear in their minds that they were going to have to go out and fend for themselves. They were actually going to have to go out and, and do something, and it didn't happen right away, but, you know, that's where the fear was. They had become complacent. Obviously, couldn't do anything about it, but there is the conditioning of the mind that, well, this is the way it is. And again, what you're seeing, though, the difference

is, is that at some point you can't afford to stay, and you've got a number of people that are

leaving California, but it's still a massive state population wise and always will be.

As you write here, the first step on the road to recovery would be for California voters to pass the citizens' initiative this November. It would require photo ID for in-person voting. It would require that mail and ballot users write the last four digits of their government ID on their ballot envelope, and it would hold election officials responsible for verifying voter citizenship status, and when necessary for requesting election audits, a valuable second step would

be for people to take the possibility of fraud or built in error in the system seriously. California's election system has serious structural vulnerabilities, universal vote by mail, with no voter ID requirements, creates conditions where fraud can go undetected and unpunished or eroding public confidence. The U.S. Attorney's Office in Los Angeles wrote on Acts, "My Office has multiple election fraud investigations underway in coordination

with the FBI law of Los Angeles." So we already know, this is the interesting thing when you look

“at it, whether it's governor or whether we already know that even in California, I believe the majority”

in the polls wants voter ID. We look at, we go back to what was at 2020, and the number of ballots, the initiatives that were on there that were all affirmative action, get rid of affirmative

action. You take the names out of it. It's really amazing how conservative the nation can be

are reading here. Even California's are saying no to new taxes. When you see all this, you see the voter ID. You see California's say, well, we're sick of the taxes yet. They keep putting the same people in. You know, Hilton and Bashar, Hilton and Bianco are only going to get 30% but polls show they're only 30% to 35% of the electorate to begin with. So they weren't going to get more than that. You're just not going to, you're not going to get it in a state like that.

The pathology of dependency is so deep. And those that are, and you've got people leaving every day, and those people that are leaving are going for a better life. So the people that are there are still going to vote in the same way. I know it's insane. It's, it's, it's this weird blind

false confidence. Yeah. Confidence in that, in something that's never going to happen,

that that somehow things are going to change by reelecting the same party over and over again.

“You know, I think it's like they sit there and go, no, we don't want taxes. Just tax the billionaires.”

Don't tax me. So it's not over, but then again, remember, it's not because remember in 2020, when they were going to pass that one corporate tax and the people blew it out of the water. So the people in California, even on that initiative said, no, it's going to make it tougher to get businesses here in California, but they still keep voting the most radical Democrats in office as they are, as they are putting forth initiatives. And the polls have shown, the polls have shown,

and the, the referendum's have shown that they have many conservative opinions and yet they keep electing the people that want to do the opposite of what they claim they want to do. It's insane. Yeah. Look, this is a state that years ago twice voted down gay marriage.

They're, they don't want it. They certainly don't want to vote Republican. They don't want Republican free market leadership. And that's where the president should have known the specifics against Kristen Welker instead of just going back and forth. But I swear, I think part of the reason he goes on is he's looking at his poll numbers that are down and he real, he thinks if I, if we screen back and

forth, then I walk out in a liberal, then it helps my base. There's no reason. I learned absolutely nothing from watching that interview yesterday. There's no reason to make any Sunday morning appearances. There's no reason for the president to do that. I don't know why he continues to do that

except for that point that he feels that if they go back and forth. And he never made the

points that John Fund made right here that we've met many, many times. Here's the problem. This, this, this, this and this guarantee Rubio would have made those points. Here's the problem.

“This, this, this, this, this, this, this and this. That's why we look at it and say the possibility”

is so great for fraud that we say, yeah, we believe it's right. Yeah. Because there's no other reason that you don't, and he didn't do it. It's a very simple concept. You don't have to get into the weeds on this. No, but it comes to changing the voting laws in California or voter ID for the whole nation. It's something that people understand without, again, going down a rabbit hole. But there's no reason for the president to ever. No, Dr. Christian Welger again. There's just no reason.

I don't know why he continues to do it. We advise him not to do it. There's plenty of other media outlets. He could go on. Well, he accepted, he actually wants the fight because he believes it helps with his face. But that's the only reason. Because he can get exposure any time he wants it. And he doesn't even need the media. Just walk out in front of, you know, just walk out in front of the White House, start talking. Yeah. I mean, the media is going to carry that, but he can

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who currently want a job changed little at 6.2 million. The individuals, uh, these individuals

were not counted as unemployed because they were not actively looking for work during the four weeks preceding the survey or were unavailable to take a job. The number of people employed part time for economic reasons at 4.8 million changed little in May. These individuals would prefer full time employment, but we're working part time because their hours have been reduced, or they were unable to find full time jobs. Among those, not in the labor force, who wanted

to job the number of people, uh, marginally attached to the labor force, changed little also

at 1.7 million. These individuals wanted and were available for work and had looked for work

sometime in the prior 12 months, but had not looked for work in the four weeks preceding the survey. If you look, you look for work once in 12 months, you're counted or not. Yeah, it's really, the number of discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached to believe that no jobs were available to them was 486,000 in May, essentially unchanged. A lot of things were really unchanged. Now, the non-farm, the total non-farm payroll employment increased 170,000 in May, similar to the

gain of 179,000 in April, uh, in May, jobs gained occurred in leisure and hospitality, local government and healthcare. Yeah. Oh, I'll also say mining mining was up, uh, 5,000, 10,000 since February. That's good. No, it's very good. That's good. mining is oil production. Right. Yeah. Yep. That was a good leisure hospitality 70,000 jobs in May, well above the monthly average preparing for, of course, uh, summer vacation, summer summer. Yep. Exactly. The problem, uh, the, uh, let me just see here,

uh, over the month food services and drinking places added 48,000 jobs. I'm sorry, drinking like every guessing alcohol, not water. Right. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The watering hole. Well,

establishment. We're selling bottled water $10 a bottle. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

“a profit margin. They're like the micro breweries. We bottle our own water. How about that?”

Yeah. I would try that, right? Well, I mean, it just filtered tap water. Well, David, I told you when I was in Tarpen Springs, Florida. Yeah. And I was at the, and I was at the, uh, the, the brewery.

We always stop by that has a chocolate coconut beer, um, two frogs. And everybody raves about their

water. It's like people getting said, oh, you want to water? You know, our water is like triple filtered. It's cold. I mean, it was a great glass of water and they're promoting their water. They're like, this is awesome. There's a place in Colorado that we went to when my parents would argue. Um, and, and, uh, it's, uh, Stonewall. It's a tiny little place on Highway 12. Um, and we would go there, but they had the best, the best tasting, and it was always cold, you know, you're

up in the mountains. Uh, I think it was around 8,000 feet somewhere around there. And, and yeah,

“the best tasting water I was like, man, I want to bottle some of this and take it home. I actually”

would fill up a couple of the big tumblers, uh, from my drive home, from their water. Yeah. So, uh, leisure and hospitality, 70,000 jobs, food services, uh, drinking places added 48,000. I'm assuming that's part of the 70. Uh, in May, employment and local government rose 55,000. Uh, lards of reflecting again in local government, excluding education. That does not include education. Yeah. Uh, uh, health care added 30 or excuse me, health care added 35,000 jobs in May

in line with the average monthly gain of 38,000 over the prior 12 months, uh, ambulatory health care services added 26,000 jobs, including the gain of 11,000 in home health care services. Now, the Wall Street Journal phrased it this way, heading into the summer months, which we mentioned. And the coming World Cup soccer tournament, a number of sectors posted outside job gains, leisure and hospitality added 70,000 new jobs. I'd like to see how much of that was in

anticipation for the World Cup. And it's interesting because that's not as, you know, those, it's not going to be small numbers of people attending. That's, you know, you better be prepared, or, you know, if you're not, uh, you better shut your doors. Uh, so I, I would love to see the

breakdown of that. Well, you know, you know, what was happening, you know, how I always go to

Buffalo brothers here. There's three locations in, in, in, uh, Terran County. Uh, and they sort of they're a Buffalo food restaurant. But I saw that, uh, John Benel from, you know, he's just famous for words for all of the meat restaurants. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know John. He, uh, you know, John's a good guy. Uh, the fact of the show. Yeah. I, when I first met him, he comes up. I mean, and I, it's a good Gary Mac, or a Gary Mac, or I mean, you know, he goes, I'm a chef. He's,

I'm up at three. He is, he is so good and at his job. And he did, you know, and, and he had, he just, you know, he had cancer. Oh, but he didn't know that. He's got the all clear, though.

Yeah. Yeah. We never talked about it. He didn't know a prayer. But we're continued. But

he was, he was talking about the fact that the scammers are on the scammers. And it was the Fort Worth Star Telegram had the fact that if you wanted to watch a game at Buffalo Brothers, it was a $12 ticket. It's called, they call it the event bright scams that are out there and to these places are, and, and, and, and, and they actually had that he was charging. And well, yeah, to, to go in and watch the world cup, and he got on, he got on social media and went, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa,

yeah. And then Fort Worth Star Telegram came out and said, that's part of all the scams that are

“going on, that these places are out there online that are saying, if you want to watch,”

oh, okay. And you know, to justify their own, you know, scam. They're saying that everybody's doing the scam or something. They're everybody's charging the $12. It may not everybody just, no, no, no, the, the Fort Worth Star Telegram was caught up in the scam that they found online that, you know, Buffalo Brothers was, and other restaurants might have been charging. One phone call would have, would have, would have cleared that up. Exactly. You know, he was, he wasn't happy with that at all.

The device in your hand is also a phone. Yeah. And so that's part of the scams that's going on for the world cup is that all these, right, you know, it's like, get a ticket online to go to this restaurant, and it was like for 12 bucks, and you get this and this and this and this, whatever, and it was complete lie. Yeah. The Fort Worth Star Telegram is one thing to run specials on. Like food, they might have, you know, hey, come in and, you know, if you ordered like a two person meal, you get a free

you know, with, with, you know, for them to, every, not make the phone call and confirm.

“Everywhere I see, uh, whether it's, I'm in New York or here, the number of restaurants closing”

is unbelievable. I went by one the other day, uh, yesterday or day before, uh, we did so much traveling over the weekend. But, um, it was, uh, a lot of it was locally, um, or in this region. And I couldn't, and I thought to myself, how did they, how did that restaurant not make it? Because they weren't open. And it was either midday Saturday or midday Sunday. And it was, I mean, there was no cars in the parking lot. It was closed. It was done. And we know that, you know, some of the chains

of close some stores, uh, you know, red lobster over the last, what year or two, whatever it is. But this was another restaurant, I gotta go back and, my members fail. I'm here right now,

which one it was. It wasn't, wasn't a big chain of straw, but it was one that is always,

“I thought was always full. Beaf prices. You know, that's the one thing that yeah, I was hitting”

barbecue places and yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but very quick, you're just going through the jobs here. Uh, so social assistance employment continued to trend up 12,000, mostly individual family services up 10,000 employment in mining, uh, and oil and gas extraction increased by 5,000 in May. That's a good sign. And 10,000 since February, financial activities. Now the bad news. Financial activities employment declined by 22,000 in May and is down 107,000 since the peak in

May of 2025 over the month job losses occurred in insurance carriers and related activities and commercial banking. Employment and transportation in warehouse was essentially unchanged, but it's down 92,000 since reaching a peak in February of 25 over the month, transit and ground passenger transportation plus 9,000 warehousing and storage plus 6,000 added jobs, air transportation lost 9,000 jobs largely reflecting a business closures we know. Well, and you and I

were talking in the pre-show meeting about, you know, the healthcare sector, but it also includes the social assistance sector, uh, which of course the huge chunk of that is, uh, government money driven. Yes, and that's, but employment showed little change over the month in construction, manufacturing, wholesale trade, retail trade, information, professional and business services.

Now that's the second month at least manufacturing is in cratering. It did. It may have plateaued

into there weren't big changes in the, uh, overall in the tear of situation. But, but since really April of last year, you go April or May of last year, manufacturing is down 80,000. Now the last two months, it's, it's been to the point where they're like, they're not even, which means it's less than a thousand here or there, because normally they list a bit more. Right. So at least, it's hit a plateau, right, and not losing, but still that not good. But yeah, that's the

one thing as you just mentioned. Hospitality business, the world cup, summers coming, you know,

“whatever, and then so much of government money into healthcare. Well, that's what's really been”

driving the job growth. Now the only other thing is, and I don't have the specific numbers on it, the last two months increased, they up the numbers. So that was, that's good. No, I don't know what they were in though, but I haven't seen any type of increase at all in manufacturing. With healthcare what's going on right now, there's a big push for the telodock kind of approach. And there's, there's a lot of, and, and so a lot of, uh, the healthcare jobs have come about with, uh,

entry-level type jobs. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but basically it is people doing

the reach out, those companies that offer that, uh, through as, as being encouraged by insurance companies, basically, that if you can get it done on the phone call with a doctor, you know, this is available to you, and I know our company insurance offers that, and I get a male or once a week. Hey, don't forget you have this, you know, because they want the office visit to be short and sweet, and, and, in fact, I have a teleconference with my doctor coming up Wednesday.

And so this is, you know, this is a lot of that, and then you look at the, the, the social assistance sector, and that is where the elderly, uh, the disabled, and there's a lot of money that goes into

backing of a lot of government money in many cases. So some good, some bad. Yeah, not, not horrible.

“No, you know, so, um, the miss on it, by the way, the market had it at 80,000, and it was way over that,”

so that's a positive, I guess. We are right, I radio. Coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley, it's right, I radio. We are when I radio, he's our crony, I'm Gary McNamara. You know, you brought it up, it's really interesting, though when you look at the job numbers and they say what 44,000, uh, for drinking establishments, which are parked enters and servers and I went there when is that just the summer and you brought

up the, the, the, the world cop. Right. And, and the, the reason is is because young people just aren't

drinking. No, you know, whether they're doing the animals, whether it's gaming, whatever it is, right, but young people are not, I mean, that's not necessarily a bad thing. Otherwise, yeah, but, uh, you know, business wise, so I'm thinking to myself, oh, okay, so is this everybody coming in from around the world who's going to drink? Well, I mean soccer fans, uh, the very least will celebrate 10 times the celebration starts long before the soccer match. They've known to have,

they've known to have, they've been known to have one or two. One or two, they drink responsibly from what we hear. Now, to the hour news is brought to you by how product, visit how products.com. This is Red Eye Radio on Westwood One. Now, it's Red Eye Radio, Gary McNamara, and Eric Hurley talk about everything from politics to social issues and news of the day, whether you're up late or you're just starting

your day, welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is here, Karni and I'm Gary McNamara, welcome in good morning. Thanks for being here. Thank you. You know, interesting because, you know, the world cup is, uh, is, uh, it's been coming to the United States this month. Teams are already here. I'm telling you, I had no idea. Just a couple miles from me. I was shocked because I saw that, uh,

“I forgot what country it is, is using it as a, you know, to to practice. And I think some of the,”

some of the earlier rounds are there. They built a soccer stadium like three miles from me

of 7,000 people right near my golf course. I was at the driving range a month ago. I never saw it.

It must be hidden behind trees. Yeah. It's sort of a, it's sort of a rural area because I live right at the edge of, of, of where you get to the rural areas. And like, there's a 7,000 seed stadium there. And people were complaining because the team was practicing and it wasn't completely and totally sold out. That's interesting. You, uh, I, I just, I wonder how many of the games, you know, will have any type of attendance problems. I'm sure the final won't.

Well, yeah. But, uh, I just, you know, sports business models are always fascinating to me. Uh, I was yesterday. I actually watched some of the UFL because I, not for the game. I could care less. But the United Football League. Right. Because it was playoff time. Right. And so I just turned it on. It was, uh, you know, middle of the Sunday. I'm like, okay, how many people are there? So I wanted to know. It's the playoff game before the championship game. How many people are there?

Yeah. And so I went and, um, look, I go, well, this is an awfully small stadium. I know they're playing in smaller stadiums this year. But this seems like a high school stadium. It was, uh, Daytona Stadium. It was Orlando against DC. And for some reason, where they normally play in Orlando had some kind of, well, right, event going on. And they, they couldn't get it. So they moved it there. It only fits like between nine and 10,000. And I looked, one side seemed to be full in the

“other side. You should see the weather using the camera angles. They will not show anything. I,”

now, I told them this years ago, stop with the wide shots. Place the place the microphones where the people are and don't do any type of why you should see how tight the shots were because half the stadium wasn't full. It's almost as if they put everybody on one side. And that's where they

you know, 10 to 15 rows. You would get on the other side. There's nobody. And I found out the official attendance was like 6,000. Yeah. And I'm still wondering, what the hell is the business

model there? You know, what is it? I mean, what is the, I've never been able to figure it out.

Never. You know, if there are minor league football and we already have minor league football, that's college. Well, or in Texas, we call it high school football, right, exactly. We don't call it minor league. We call it pre NFL. We also call it Friday night church. Well, no, it's, you know, high school football. Friday night church in Texas is a couple of levels above the UFL. Yes. Yes. Exactly. And the USC. Not just at the White House, though. Well, that's there.

That's, and we're in Texas there in DC. I'll let them figure that out. Yeah. In some of the funny thing, it was, I did see the, so it's how dare the president have something like that. It's the White House. And it was like Biden had topless people right around. You know, the first thing I thought of,

“how many celebrities? And I think Biden kind of alluded to it. I could take him jack. Okay.”

Let's make it part of the event. Who was the celebrity or liberal activist and media person that said that, you know, I could probably, well, we know Jim Wall said it. You know, I could probably kick all their butts around my mom. Oh, good. All right. Let's, you know what, I will pay to watch that. Let's go. You know, friendly. Everybody, you know, where the protective gear and the whole thing, which you think you're bad. If him coming out in the helmet is big belly, you know, hanging out

in his, put him up, put him up. But the problem is, are we talking Tim Walls or Trump? Tim Walls.

Okay. Okay. No, I think, I think Trump would come out. You know, when Trump shows up at a UFC event, you think you would think he's the main event that he sees the one going to fight it. But it's, you know, if the, the liberals win, they go, well, I never, yeah, you have some of you would actually said, you would like to get in the ring with Trump. So, you know, if you're going to have an event,

“why not? Yeah, Walls was throwing out. I mean, I think that was trying to, you know, his new form of”

masculinity wasn't working. So we decided to use the traditional form of masculinity. I can beat the crap out of you. I can beat you up. Yeah. I don't care how intellectually stimulating you are. I can beat you up. Right. I can beat you up. But I can beat you up. Do run. I can beat all of you's up. Yeah. I can beat you up with one hand behind my back. Now I've really showed you have an eye. Right. It's like the ones they are the right. It doesn't kick in. We'll be fine.

Or the tendonitis in my ankle. It's my, if it's my, if it's my leading arm, that's going to probably, uh, yeah. Right. Probably. One hand behind my back. It's because I have to keep it behind

“my back. Otherwise, my elbow is in a lot of pain. That's what that's. That's, that's, that's just,”

the slings or the slings, the, my permanent sling as it, yeah, for my arm. Yeah. Nate Bargaz see the stand-up comedian. He actually, if you notice in all of his specials, he's got a habit of taking his right hand and kind of putting it behind his back. He, you know, he kind of, you know, walks, walks around and, and he's mentioned that because, you know, that actually has had an effect over the years. Um, but it's, uh, every time the left, you know, does

this well, I never. You guys were the ones threatening to get in the ring and, you know, kick,

Trump's butter kick, the people that voted for Trump, kick their butts. I could kick all their butts and everything else. Don't hammer this garbage that you, this is like a pretend to have decorum decorum when you're pushing to mutilate children's genitals. Shut the hell off. Wow. I mean, seriously, that's, that's their toughness. My wife and I were on a road trip this weekend. Actually, we took a couple. And it was nonstop talk show, uh, each before, because we probably

spent about eight hours total in the truck, I think. And it was nonstop talk show. Now, the problem is,

points that we do. Because quite often in our conversations, she'll bring it up and she'll say, you know, what the hell is going on with, you know, whatever it is. Um, and, but it is, you know, everybody can see these things, as you mentioned, the people of California, when you take the names out of it, even the people of California can see reality. They don't vote in reality. And we still don't know why except for on some propositions, but that's the country we live in. It's really amazing.

I really do not talk politics that much outside of the show. Yeah. Not that I avoided, but it's just the circumstances that I'm in. You know, it's really funny. My family hardly ever brings it up. Really. Yeah. My family hardly ever. I mean, hardly ever. Yeah. You know, maybe once every two years somebody will say, hey, how's the show going? You know, what are you talking about today? Yeah. Yeah. You know, or, but I will say this. Now, I've got other friends that will

“ask me, but it always begins, as you said, your wife began it. Yeah. What the hell are they doing here?”

Can you explain this to me? Because it makes no sense. How could anybody believe this? And you're like, I'm not going to be able to help you. I don't know. I'm not going to be able to help you. That's it

because, and in my dad and I always have saw dad over the weekend, mom and dad over the weekend,

they're both doing great. Oh, by the way, I'm glad I thought of that today, June 8th, 70 years they've been married. Today's 70th anniversary. Wow. June 8th, 1956. Well, my parents never made it. They made it in 1969. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's beautiful. I want my wife and I went there on Saturday at the anniversary. Yeah. I'm, I'm so proud of them. And they're both doing relatively well. Dad's just turned 93 moms 88 and they both have, you know, a number of issues, but they're

being well taken care of. And it was great to see them. And my wife went and picked up some of their favorite Chinese food. So it was just a beautiful day. Wow. It was just a beautiful day. Wow.

And, and of course, inevitably, Dad and I always have, and it's, you know, it depends on

what's going on for the day. Here lately, every time I go to their house, right about the time we're leaving in the afternoon, there's storms rolling in and Saturday was no exception. So my whole way home, I mean, it was just flooding rain and some hail and everything else actually took shelter under a close business had to have had some covered. And so we had to stop and pull over. But when we're there with Dad, it's, you know, inevitably we have our own talk show and that, you know,

in this living room, you know, and you'll say, you know, I don't understand why they're doing this

or that, you know, none of this makes sense in the whole thing. And it's always beautiful

“because we connect on that and I believe that's basically his connection with me,”

based on what I do, you know, and, and it's, and I'm going to go back and see them. You and I have vacation coming up surrounding an independent stay. And I'm going to go back and spend a couple of days. I've got, they've got a five-year-old red oak. That's got a couple of branches that need to be trimmed up a little bit. And I'm going to be doing some work for Dad and just hanging out with Mom and Dad for a couple of days. That was tree suck. Yeah. The red arts of the worst,

the red oaks are so solid. I mean, you go to chainsaw's and I'm bringing three of mine and I'm bringing two of my hand saws. Now, the good news is it's not a mature red oak. I had one point in one of my lawns. Now, say, 115 mature red oaks and it's just the worst. It's your, it's like cutting through cement. Well, my bolt, my bolt died from the beetle. And did you have libox or red oaks? You have? I'm sorry, libox. I'd libox. Yeah, they're beautiful. But they're still, they're the worst. Yeah, they're, they're, they're, they're,

they're, they're, they're absolute were. I mean, prop in those eight corns, yeah, springtime. Yeah, the red oaks do that too. And whatever they're dropping the acidic stuff that kills your lawns. Well,

“it's the end, and with the, I think this is the case of five oaks, too, but with red oaks, the leaves,”

when it rains, the leaves also drop a little bit of acidity into your soil, you know, even without acorn season, acorn scraping season. And it's, yeah, it's just a big headache. But it's a beautiful

hang out with it. But we inevitably, again, get into a talk show right there in the living room.

“He's a little more tired than than than he has been in the past with what we've gone through with”

the loss of my brother. Now, coming up on on two months ago. But it's certainly, though, he's, he's, he's passionate about what's going on. And, and that's about the only conversation.

The rest of my family, my son will approach me and like, you know, hold on a second.

Am I getting the whole story as it, well, probably not Gary and I have to every night, you know, comb through all the BS in order to get to what the story actually is. So, you know, depends on what you're reading, and then my son and I will have great conversations. Well, I appreciate it with your dad, because I don't, you know, it's, it's not there anymore with my father and I. He can't, he's just, his memory can't hold on to the details of a conversation

of the minutia of it like it used to. But he did say, he, I forgot to say this. He did say,

“you and Eric keep going, keep going. Just keep it going. Just keep it going. Just keep it going.”

Gary, keep it. He got, he got that out of me. Your father has a strong mind even, even though what he's dealing with right now, you know, I'd say my, your father and my father clearly have that same, your, your father being the engineer, my dad, you know, the investigator and, and it builds that, that strong mind, dad slowing down a bit. He's been dealing with a blood cancer since November of 22. And it's not, it's not curable, but it is treatable and, and it's amazing.

He's just tough as nails, but still is, is slowing down as would be expected. Yeah, I, I probably haven't more. I didn't last time, but when I see my great nephew,

he's always asking me stuff. Yeah. You know, but, you know, besides that and, and I'm just,

you know, I'm very careful with him now, though. I mean, he just, he, he finished high school. Yeah. Wow. So now I'm more open when he was younger. He would ask a lot of questions. And I'm part of, I say, look, we'll talk about it, but, you know, you don't need to worry too much about this at your age. You know, and I'm talking about when they're eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. It's like, all right, let me indoctrinate him. It's like, can't do it. Yeah, just right, just can't.

But, yeah, but, it's, it's, it's, uh, not really that, like, it's, I'm amazed that I, I do get it when I go back to Buffalo. Once in one, I see my old buddies. They'll get me on it.

“People I don't see for a while if I haven't seen them in 10 years. Hey, how's it going?”

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I've never sold you, but I'm on for this country.

You know what? People probably didn't know. I did a dead-on Scott Pelley impression. Hey, here we go. All right, here we go.

She, I am told, said something to the effect of why do you think the country thinks you're biased,

“but she didn't offer any kind of a metric. What's your metric? Why do you think so?”

Do you have a poll? Is there a market research? What are you talking about? Because we certainly didn't believe that. We don't believe we're biased. We just, by the way, we're correct. I wish he had the same curiosity on other topics. Yeah. Like Russia collusion. Right. Where we all know. We, I mean, for him to say, do you have a poll? Yeah. He's making it sound like, in my opinion, he's gaslighting,

because we know the poles are out there. Yeah. The poles are all over the place about the media.

Yeah. And the bias of the media. Right. He's making it sound like there's never been a poll on the media.

Right. As to why they're biased or what? Where's, or CBS? We're just hearing this for the first time. It's weird. And we're not biased. We just hate Trump and Republicans. That's all. 猪猪猪. Catch red-eye radio live every night on the red-eye radio app available in the app store. Red-eye radio. And he is currently, I'm hearing McNamara welcome and

good morning. Thank you so much for being here. Download our red-eye radio app today. And you can listen when you choose. All right. More on Scott Pellin is interview.

“Yeah. He's, I'm sorry. He's a, did you, did you get out of it that he's a child?”

No. I mean, he, he really is, he, not a man is a child. He's one of these people who is, it would be one of these adolescents who thinks they're light years above their parents in terms of intelligence. I, I don't know of anybody who every time they speak, beats Scott Pellin and looking down their notes. Here's more of the interview. Here we go. But Scott, in a meeting you accused Barry Weiss, the head of the network of

wanting to murder the show, of coming into 60 minutes with the agenda to dismantle the institution. And you did not think that that was going to have repercussions that could lead to your firing. We used to be able to have conversations like that at CBS News. But the difference today is that the people running CBS News will not be questioned.

They never had a question and answer.

Remember, that's an entire point. They said, there was never quite, they, they said, we wanted to talk to you. We want to discuss this stuff with you. He didn't want anything of it. The point is that that is lost on every one is Barry Weiss is not a Republican. She's not a conservative. No. She's a lifelong liberal. By the way, in that answer, just there, let me translate that into what he actually said.

Well, I have never been questioned in a meeting. No one would dare up until now question me in a

meeting. What a load of garbage. You know what I got out of it? And, and I know many people might not have read the book, but we go, I keep going back to Bernard Goldberg and Bias. Yeah. He's almost the perfect example of what Bernard Goldberg described the mainstream media 20 over 25 years ago is how we describe them. That they just believe

“their rights, that they are the, they are the protectors of democracy. Yes. That's what that's”

what they believe. They believe and, and they believe you're wrong. You know, if Scott Pellie ends up

them they need a cart. It's, it's just the most insane childish arrogance. And it's over and

over every time he speaks. Man, yeah, I was trying to think, oh, what else could he do for a living? I guess he could be an actor if you need a snob. Hey, we need someone who can be a butler. Well, Scott Pellie, you know, the thing is we've, and we've done it throughout the years and we

“did it again last week. We tore apart some of the big stories where the only way that you could say”

what he was saying is based on Bias because the natural curiosity as it did with us, for example, with Russia collusion because we focused in on that. We sat there and went, we were allegation isn't enough. Right. Where's your evidence? Right. Where's your proof? Right. You know, he's sitting there saying, well, Barry Weiss came in and said, why do you think people think we're biased? We don't, we don't think anybody thinks we're biased. There was no metrics in, are you kidding me? If anything has been

studied with with with polling and research over the last 30 years, it's been the bias in the media? I would like to see some metrics. By the way, Scott, nobody talks that way. That's my God. That's time I heard someone say metrics. They were mispronouncing the name of a Keanu Reeves' movie. I mean, it's just, it really is, it's just laughable, the way that he's

just whining. Why? Never. We never had this before because you had liberal activists as executive

producer and as the head of CBS News. They were patting on the back, telling you to run for us, run. That's why. Yeah, I thought it came off. Again, I'm sure the left has sympathy for him because they agree that there's no bias in the media. We know there is every single poll shows people believe there's bias in the media. For him to say what metric we don't, we certainly don't. My God, I was listing that. I'm thinking to myself, this is, and remember, Bernard Goldberg wrote the book

“bias, and I think it was arrogance. That's what I mean. When he was talking and talking about”

how he believes, I'm like, my God, it's exactly what Bernard Goldberg wrote in his book. Yeah, remember, Bernard Goldberg worked for Dan Rather. Right. And Bernard Goldberg, really, I don't think he's ever been a Republican. Right. Yeah. You know, he claims he's a fiscal conservative. They all do, though. Yeah. Exactly. Kamala Harris said she's a fiscal conservative. Yeah. One time. Right. But it was just,

it was amazing. My mouth was open, listing this going, my God. Bernard Goldberg called it

perfectly, because Scott Pellie is the perfect example. And it said they sit there in their high positions, and they actually believe they are the arbiters of what is right for our society. And they are the protectors of our society. You know, people asked me, you know, what do you think about what you do? And I went, well, we try to get the truth out there. That's, we're trying to get the truth out there and we give you our opinion. That's basically it. We're,

“right. We're in nice little national show. We built up a nice little audience. And that's what”

I found. I have fought for you. Yeah. Right. And in fact, the opposite has happened. You know, when we have, when I've had in the past, soldiers come up and go, well, what you do is just as important. I'm like, no, it's not. And they do. Yes. I understand where they're coming from, when they say it, well, because what they're saying is you're projecting my opinion out there. And I believe that's a very important thing to do. But everybody has an opinion,

not everybody is built to do what the military does. No, they're not. And I've heard that too. I've had people comment to me, my dad, two time more veteran. And he said something

you know, he didn't make the direct comparison that it's just as important. The conversation itself and freedom of speech is what we do is part of that conversation. And that's, but it can't happen without the military, without our federal government defending freedom through the military.

And, and that's just, that's just the fact. So, you know, it's, um, it's always greatly

appreciated when, when people think that my job is important. But it's so funny because they asked, why do you think people believe you're biased? And his point was like, we've never thought that way. Right. We've, we've, he's what we've said, you know, we've, we've, they don't think they're biased. No, they don't, and that's exactly what our goberg said. They don't believe their bias. They don't believe their left or right. They just believe their right. There's a certain amount of

arrogance that goes along with it. And I remember when, when Bernard goberg said that, I was like,

really, they don't know, you know, that, you know, and again, a lot has happened in the last 25

“years to the point where the political activism in the media is so great. I believe many of them”

know that their political activism is not journalist. Yet I do believe that you go to the old school people. And they do believe that they just have a higher level of intelligence and are able to analyze it better than anybody else. And they're not left or right. They're just correct on the issue. Yeah, no matter what. Right. And there's a certain level of arrogance that comes with that because you see it right there. His blind spot does even know what he did there.

When he said, you know, you know, you know, what are the metrics? We don't know when he metrics a show that the media is biased. Where are you getting this from? Because certainly we don't think that way. You don't think that people think you're biased. We know you don't think you're biased. You don't think there are you are you in such a bubble where you don't know. And if you're in such a bubble, we got a problem here. Well, I, I, again, with that level of arrogance that he has,

yeah, he's in the bubble. I think you can only maintain that level of arrogance for that amount of time by staying in the bubble, which by the way, I don't believe that he doesn't know. I believe he wants people to think that he just believes he's doing the right thing.

“That's what he's trying to portray. He live, but you live in the bubble and shut yourself out”

and you don't. And it's like people say when they're on, you know, if they're social media, or, you know, if they're an influencer or whatever, you know, Rogan is set it. Don't read the comments, though he's not reading. He's not paying attention to the polls. He knows they exist. He knows there are metrics. By the way, this whole thing that, you know, the Trump is directing it. Trump is not directing this. No. And, and it's like, you know, it's, it's like every, look,

Trump comes on all the time and attacks conservative media when they speak against him all the time.

He basically said, don't listen to Fox anymore. Don't watch Fox anymore. Donald Trump Jr.

is said, don't watch Fox. Right. Republicans still continue to watch Fox. Yeah. You know, so he'll pick out conservatives all the time and, and, and, and say, these, you know, these people just don't have it right or he'll insult them. He'll do whatever. Yeah. So to sit there and say that Trump said to the new owners of CBS, put a liberal in there

“who believes in journalism. I don't believe that's what happened. Yeah. Right. You know,”

we've seen it with whether his new companies come in going, my God, the bias is so obvious. And the bias is so incredibly obvious with with CBS. And we pointed out over and over and over again, we just, we spent an hour, over an hour and a half last week, just on his lack of curiosity, which he just accepted what was being said by Andrew McCabe on Russia collusion and Andrew McCabe, either had it wrong or was lying 100%. Yeah. He was either one, he was either 100% wrong or he was

and they were completely wrong on the story. There was no Russia collusion. Trump did not

collude with the Russians to hack the election. It was the Democrats. It was Hillary Clinton

“that set him up as we all know. There is no debate on that. We know that. That's why Mueller couldn't”

come up with anything and the Mueller report. Right. Because they knew they couldn't go down that

road to say, okay, let's go to the Pfizer warrant, because the Pfizer warrant would have the best information as to why Trump might be a Russian asset. Why don't we go down there because it leads

right back to Hillary. Yes. You can't, you can't open, you can't look behind the curtain.

You know, as somebody pointed out the other day, there's a bridge home. The producers want all these

“shows. Yeah. Right. How big of a plastic person is he? Well, I think we're learning.”

We are Red Eye Radio. We'll be right back with more Red Eye Radio with every currently in Gary McNamara. We're in the radio. He's our protein. I'm very macro. You know, the thing is when Scott Peli said, well, Barry White says, why do you think the country

“thinks you're biased? And he said, he wouldn't even go, so why do you think so? Do you have a poll?”

Is there market research? What are you talking about? What is a metric? Because we certainly don't believe that. And it was funny, because you just instantaneously picked up a couple of polls. One of the Pew research and something else, you know, it's one said 77%. Right. Believe it's biased. Whatever. He didn't answer and say, well, the country may think that way, but I believe they're wrong. Right. He could say, look, I know there are various polls, but I believe they're wrong.

And we pride ourselves in doing good journalism, which would be laughable, but that idea better answer than what he gave. What he said was, no, we don't believe that there's no evidence in America believes that we're biased. Right. That's just flat up. That's gaslighting. Yes. At that point. This is Ridae Radio. On Westwood One.