06-15-26 Part One - The War, The Games & The Dutch

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This is Red Eye Radio. All across America, we are Red Eye Radio, and he is Eric Hurley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Man, there were Dutch everywhere. There's generally two kinds of people I can't stand. People who are intolerant to other people's cultures, and the Dutch.

If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much. Most from the movie My Way, actually the way, the way it's the way it was the way it was the way. Frank's story. Frank's story, Frank's story, Frank's story, Frank's story.

So I'm up early on a Sunday.

I always go shopping on a Saturday or Sunday morning, because nobody's in the store.

Yeah. And you get everything. Going in, I probably went in about 830, a little bit later than I wanted to when I was in there. They were saying, oh, Gary, you missed the Dutch buses pulled up, now the double-decker

one that's all around Texas. But a bunch of buses pulled up and said, hey, they just all love it here. The Dutch just loved Texas. Did you hear the one German tourist blown away?

“I'm like, how bad is it in Germany blown away by the Waffle House?”

We had a friend who came here from Germany, and she married an American citizen, and they were happy and he unexpectedly passed away. So she stayed with us until she came back or had to go back to Germany. I mean, she was basically, kind of, going to lose everything, but had to go back to Germany. And she just kept repeating, I just, I don't want it, it's having lived in the U.S.

For this period of time, and I don't remember if it was one or two years or what it was, I just don't know how I'll re-assimilate. And her mother, oh my, came over, cooked this schnitzel actually by hand in our own kitchen, and the whole thing. And I just remember her being so sad having to go back to Germany, because she said the

way of life is just so different. I, you know, we get spoiled. I guess having lived here all of our lives, my sister lived in Germany for a few years, but my brother-in-law, her husband, was in the Air Force at the time, and she lived, I think it was, I don't know if it's her time, where it was, but she, you know, didn't

really have, I don't know, to, I don't remember too many comments, probably because she

knew she was always going to be coming back to the U.S.

But being impressed, now look, the Waffle House is impressive, because it's open, well, you would have to go to the White House to get a better fight.

“So, if, you know, if you want to, if you want to, if you want to, if you want to, like,”

230 AM, just say these waffles suck. Just shout it out. Yeah, yeah. Have you better than any UFC fighter? Oh.

Yeah. And Kid Rock will probably, at some point, be there, magically, drawing a punch. And so, uh, I go into the supermarket and they're like, Gary, you missed him. The, the Dutch were here. They came in a couple of buses.

Yeah. And they wanted beer. Well, of course they did. Yeah. They don't sell beer until 10 AM.

They had to tell him. They were so disappointed. He goes, we disappointed the Dutch. They walked away. It was like, no, no.

No, beer. Yeah. Beer by law at 7 AM. Yeah. They don't sell it.

That's right. They don't, that's their policy. They don't sell it to 10 AM. Why? I haven't tried to buy beer and I don't know how long.

Well, at 7 AM. I did have, I actually watched the USA game on Friday. You did. I watched. I watched.

You were the match. You have to say match. Oh, the match. Yeah. Okay.

Say a soccer match.

Again, it's the, really, the third soccer game I've watched in 40 years.

Because all the people who had I've watched, I'm not interested in soccer before Friday. Right. You want it. I watched. I watched Paleo in 77.

Exactly.

“I watched the USA, you know, with the, what's known as the sports bra game, the, you”

Brandy Chastain and USA against China back in 1999. Right.

And then this is the third full game.

Unless you kind of did watch, I said the one time when I was visiting my buddy Jerry and all of his friends from Great Britain were there and Liverpool was playing in something. I don't, I don't think, I, I don't think, I don't think they were the whole game, though. That was actually fun though because they were, they were so crazy and insane.

It was very entertaining watching them. But I really view this as the third one that I've actually watched, but it was really exciting. I, I turned my surround sound speakers. I got a great surround sound system, just great.

And you can adjust the back speakers exactly the way that you want. So I made it into a stadium sound and turned it loud. And then had a, a adult beverage light beer 2.6 grams of carbs. All right, I'm more worried about the carbs in that beer than the alcohol. Yeah.

“But it was, it was actually really, it was actually really fun to watch and interesting.”

I mean, I'm dying laughing that there, all of a sudden, the camera pans, you know, they were panning to different people that were in the, the audience, you know, for example, you know, they were, they showed time crews, you know, he was there. And then they, they paned at the southern person. I went, not can't be, that can't be Justin Trudeau, it can't be.

He told Canadians, don't vacation, don't go to the USA, that can't be Justin Trudeau, former Prime Minister of Canada, it was Justin Trudeau. And there he is standing and clapping for an American goal. And Canada was playing the same day. He didn't go to the Canadian game.

Yeah. Oh, my God, we're Canadians furious about this. You're the one that told us, don't vacation in the USA. And there you are, cheering for, it was, oh, my gosh, it was, it was so much fun. Wild, Trump was president, while Trump was president and his, his excuse was, well, my, my

girlfriend, Katy Perry. So, yeah. Well, by the way, I have to, I want to, I have to use proper English here. Since we have so many Europeans in town, wild, Trump was president, wow, I have to say, I've got to watch my English, but it was actually, I mean, and I came away saying to myself,

either Paraguay really stinks or the United States has a heck of a team because it wasn't even close. Four to one, I know I know Germany won seven to one, Germany winning seven to one, forgot where they played. And I just saw the score because every good Germany won all over social media.

Yeah. You know, and a partner was cheering them on. Yeah. That was worth. That was worth.

But expected. I do. Well, he was, he must have, he must have sure for the old Germany. All right. No.

Eric, you're wrong. He's just East Germany doesn't exist anymore. He's hoping he'll come back, he's hoping they'll make a comeback, you know, what the way Putin's going. Well, winning seven to one is like a football team, you know, an American, I'm not going

to do this, football, which is what we play, that's like the Dallas Cowboys winning 500 to three. Yeah. The scoring set and even the United States scoring four goals, four to one, and they scored

three, then they scored with like one second left in the game that was just, it was actually

pretty interesting. But they're really, really good. I mean, they're really good. They're very, you know, whatever they do with their feet, do the ball forward and bad.

I just can't believe it. I can't believe there's so lazy they don't just pick the ball up and run with. So, I mean, they do all that running, they might as well just pick it up and run with it, but that was just, that was just so funny and, and just watching Canadians go crazy about it and go, Karney says he hates United States, but all of his investments are

in the United States and look at Justin Trudeau. He told us not to vacation there and, and there he is clapping with, with, with his American girlfriend. Is she American? Katy Perry.

I'm against him. I don't know. I have no idea. I don't know. I have no idea.

“It's, you know, the only thing I know Katy Perry from, I know she's popular.”

I probably never listen to any of her songs, but I remember she did the acne commercial for the,

for the acne professional. Yeah, she's American. Okay. It's, but they were cheering and he's up. He's standing.

Trudeau's up there standing, sharing clapping. Oh, go, go, you was. I got one. We know who, I guess we know who wears the pants in the family.

What I really wanted to see is when they started cheering USA, USA, USA, USA, and they cheered

it quite a bit. Yeah.

“I wanted to see the camera pan up to Justin Trudeau and have him clapping and saying,”

you were cheering USA. I was, oh, I was like, please, please. I must admit, and this might have been, I don't know, maybe this is against some religious opinions. I was almost praying going, please, let me just have this for entertainment purposes.

Just want to just this one moment for me only, and then I had to, then I had to appreciate what God did give me, which was Justin Trudeau standing and, yeah, that's the truth. No, that was it. And then in the of itself was, was, I don't know, if it's a, if it's a, if it's a full blessing, but it definitely, yeah, at a major day.

And it really, really did, I was like, yeah, so I watched, on, I watched on Friday night, a YouTube video on how to fix a refrigerator. It was riveting. I thought the guy had been defeated and then he came back and got it fixed. I hadn't planned on watching, it was just, you know, I was so busy Friday.

And I just, you know, by the time it got to be ready to clock, I just just crashed on the couch. Yeah.

“And I didn't even, it was like, all right, should I get to the refrigerator?”

Man, and, uh, all right, do I have a beer? Wow, I've got one of the 2.6 grams of Garb's beer in the super, super light beer. Yeah, right. It's like, all right, let me just check out the game for, for, I mean, the pre-game shows are so long.

I mean, the for everything now, I hate pre-game and pre-game shows post game, you know, the reaction to players is great, but just sitting there listening to the, the, the people talk about the game coming up in their predictions, I mean, and that goes on for hours. Just like, I, no interest, just show me the game. And so, uh, so it was, like I said, it was, it was fun, it was fun to watch.

And, uh, I know the next time the USA place is next Friday at 3 p.m. So we'll see whether that, uh, interferes with the signing of the peace deal.

Yeah, listen, here's the thing.

We were wrong because we have heard our sources say that President Trump insisted Iran put in the words pinky promise. And, and, and that gave me the confidence that I needed that, that put me over the top on that one. Look, there's a, I've seen what, uh, paying attention to Mark Levin going, why don't they

release the, the text, why don't they release the text?

“No, that's what I was looking for all day.”

Show me something. Show me the text. Show me something. Because what it seems like here, it's, it does seem like what we have here is the art of the Custanza deal.

Yeah. And that's if you know the George Custanza negotiating for their pilot, where he went backwards. Right. Because, uh, if, if it's true, you know, post reported, other media reported it, what's going to happen is we, uh, we stop the blockade.

The Straits of Hormuz, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, is open, uh, and we give them 25 billion dollars.

We release 25 billion dollars to them, which is the art of the Custanza deal because the Straits of Hormuz was open before the war. And we had, uh, you know, we had sanctions, uh, you know, that, uh, you know, we're going on at that time. So, in essence, and, and, and, and we weren't allowing them to get their money beforehand,

now we're allowing them and opening that up for them to get money for something that we already had before the war began, which is negotiating backwards. It's that, that the initial deal. The rest of it, the nukes, missiles, proxies, uh, none of that has yet to be negotiated from what we're told. Everything is okay. This is the, what do they call it, the memorandum

of understanding, which is just a stall for Iran. You cannot negotiate with Iran, you cannot negotiate with, with, with these radical Islamists that run it, you have, you know, you have, and I want to know what we've talked about last week. We're even the president mentioned it.

Oh, yeah, you know, we're trying to get weapons to the people, but, uh, the, uh, oh, I've got who, I can't think of it, uh, who took it.

blanket.

“Well, remember, you know, but the, he was basically, he made the point they're making”

a sucker out of me, yeah, you know, and I thought to myself, well, yeah, that's exactly

what they're doing. And you're letting them do that. And don't be shocked if Iran commits some kind of attack or one of their products. The Kurds. Yes.

The, uh, the entire thing here is nothing, it's, it's nothing, it means nothing. It doesn't matter what the language says. I'm curious to read it, but it's only my curiosity. It means deadly and squat, because Iran is not going to abide by any agreement. Everyone knows this.

So nothing happened over the weekend, and nothing will happen, whatever it's signed, whoever signs it. I see, let Tim Walsign it, because it means nothing. This is, this is zero point zero. Some cheap attempt to get this off the table for the markets and energy prices until November

3rd. If November 4th, he goes in, takes out the regime, and takes all of their uranium. Again, I'll say, well, played. I don't expect that to happen. And all of it will be, you know, every little bit will be based on every little thing will

be based on, okay, open up for more money, open up for more money.

“Yep, but the fact is, if they get 25 billion, it's the fact that we are negotiating for”

something that we already had before the war. Right. And this is how we start it. And anybody is confident that this is going to be a deal that the Iranians will abide by.

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Good morning and then when you look at it over the weekend, just to preamble to the announcement of this memorandum of understanding, which is not a deal, and the part of the deal to begin with is, you know, the art of the Castanza deal, because from what it seems

in here, post another reporting, we're releasing from the sanctions about 25 billion

to them to open up the straight of or moves, and we are lifting the blockade then immediately. Yeah, right, which ensures they get more money for what we already had before the war began. And then him going after Israel, for defending themselves, now this president is chastizing Israel when they are attacked. Well, and and my question is, after the signing, if Israel's attacked, do they sit and

“do nothing? And is he going to go after the map for the signing? What do you do then?”

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1776 just call 800 for relief, 800 the number four relief, or go to relieffactor.com. So over the weekend, the administration, I was reading a national review of Jeffrey, a blur talking about Trump has become comical and I want to social. The back and forth. They're playing us for suckers. It's like, well, no, they're playing you for a sucker. You're the one, I mean, the buck stops with you.

Here, the commander-in-chief, it's your people that are negotiating and doing this. And then going after Israel, as you had a few times when they've been attacked. And then saying, well, it wasn't much nobody died. Well, you didn't say that with the helicopter attack. Right.

You went right back in again. Right. And so we've gone to the point of the president defending Israel and even saying in the true social. I mean, this is what's comical about it. Israel has arrived to defend itself, but not if it's insignificant. It's like, you're shooting missiles.

When you shoot missiles, your intent is to kill people. If you don't, it doesn't mean you sit there and go, no, we're going to wait until you get us.

“I mean, this is, this is absolutely, you, you've got so many of the president's loyal supporters that are just going, what the hell is this about?”

Well, because it's the Alvin Braga approach. Well, you know, if you don't harm anybody during the robbery, we'll go wide on you. I mean, it's, it's, it's mind-boggling.

And like I said, the first thing I, if this is all true, and they haven't denied it.

And, and, and the fact is, as most Trump supporters who are saying what the hell's going on here, have said, give us the text. Yeah. Let us see what's in it. Yeah.

Because you had a headset out there yesterday saying, you know, we'll know. They have, they've, they're, they're going to get rid of their, they're nuclear weapons. They've agreed. What does that mean? They've agreed.

I don't care whether they've agreed. What is your verification process? Well, that, that's all going to be negotiated in the future.

Once we get the straight of our moves open, you remove our blockade and release 25 billion

has been reported. It could be more could be less, you know, to the Iranians. Yeah. Well, then you're negotiating backwards because the straight of our moves were open before this. Right.

So you're negotiating backwards on this and you're attacking Israel and then when I saw this on on on was this early Sunday or was it, it was meet the press. I saw this from JD events. You just went. Wow, they're lost.

JD events. All right. Kristen, this is how war is ultimately get settled. If you go back to World War Two, if you go back to World War One, if you go back to every major conflict in human history, they all end with some kind of negotiation.

Where? And you had Trump supporters that have backed him initially on the goals of the war going. What the hell is, Jay? Either JD events is completely ignorant.

“If you don't know that about World War Two, how that ended?”

You're either lying or you're completely totally ignorant. And if you plan to be president, you probably should know how World War Two ended.

You know, you, and, and in defending this, the problem is,

especially defending it with those particular words, you're doing more damage. You, you start bringing up conjuring the question from everybody. And right now, more importantly, your base is part of that everybody asking, what are you doing? Who's running this show?

Who's doing this and believing this is a good idea? We started strong. We killed the Iotola who had been at the head of the regime for the longest time. We taken out and reportedly wounded his son, and then all of a sudden, were on our knees?

What the hell? I don't get it at all. Again, if November 4th, we get, and you'll know because the president will come out after we actually do the deed like he did that time. And don't make a speech.

This is what we did because they didn't abide by the agreement or whatever. Then I'll look at it and go, okay, I don't know if I can say well played because nobody's buying it. The play would be try and settle things in the market. So politically, you're not doing any harm.

“But if you're giving them any upper hand here, which I believe you are,”

because there's no telling what they'll do through their proxies,

now that they're getting 25 billion.

When are they getting the 25 billion? That's I have a lot of money. That's, I mean, the rains were saying it was 300 billion. So it's, yeah, it's apparently somewhere in, in, in between. But the fact is, you know, really here from, just every blur in the national review,

by our hands on understanding has been publicly at war with the United States, since the founding of the Islamic Republic. The regime slogan is quite literally death to America, and people have convinced themselves that it's mere performative rhetoric, perhaps because to admit otherwise would be to admit that we lack persuasive options

when we face the religious realities of the Middle East. Anyway, you cannot deal with these people. They are ideologically harmful to everything America and American foreign policy, what we stand for far beyond Israel. Remember, in the political cosmology of the Iranian regime,

America is the great Satan. Israel is the little Satan. A mere cat's paw of the true evil, as Donald Trump himself, with almost perverse historical irony once noted during a different administration,

the Iranians never want to war, but they never lost an negotiation.

Which is precisely why I said from the start of the Iran war, it was going to be a titanic error. Nobody wanted or was prepared for a regime-change war. And what that would have entailed in terms of American military commitment abroad,

“and that's the only way you solve this problem.”

By the way, we said this from the very beginning, if it's intent was, because that's what he put out in that eight-minute speech. And as we said over and over again, what you do is you don't make a deal, you just keep hitting and killing everybody in whatever regime takes over. Well, then with the weekend he's complimenting this version of the regime,

saying this group is actually much better to deal with, saying that the group that Obama dealt with, you know, they were, you know, whatever, and this group is much better to deal with, and I'm thinking to myself, what happened to unconditional surrender?

Well, in just the day before he was saying he was being played for a sucker by the Iranians. Well, I mean, he's all over the whole place.

to the people of Iran, then you wanted regime-change,

“and then this weekend, hey, they're the best people to deal with.”

And what kind of cluster happened there? I don't know. I don't know. Because the thing is, you're not going to have your handing arms to the citizens of Iran, who have been killed on the streets by the regime.

Many of their family members have. And you want them to hear you go, go get them. How in the world is that supposed to work? The regime has thoroughly murdered and imprisoned many domestic dissidents were called. It was the IRGC massacres in the streets of Terran,

that first drove Trump to publicly promise Iranian people that help was on the way.

It had survived the assassination of nearly the entire original leadership cadre, yet maintained political and ideological continuity. Only revolution or civil war is going to remove the regime now, and they will be hankering for revenge against us. We want, as well, to speak the hard truth.

And ill-considered war of choice looks likely to leave America as well as the global economy in a worse position than it was when it began. I'm tired of withholding my judgment. That's one reason, both Trump and the Iranians prefer extended negotiations, so they can delay the verdict and claim the jury is still out.

Yeah. It's an incredibly bitter pill to swallow, and I won't force it down anyone else's throat, but however, along this circus of talks and terms, continues the indescapable fact is that America is negotiating the particulars

of our resignation in a war. Donald Trump started without a plan to finish it. Well, to me, the plan to finish it was keep taking out the regime. You just, you don't make a deal. You keep taking out the regime.

You keep everything in place. You keep taking out the regime every time they build up.

“You take it out because that's what you have to do.”

It's like an election.

You always enter an election as if you're 20 points down.

You never walk into any war. Well, we're going to have this thing done in four or five weeks. And everything will be moved. And then our hope is that the Iranian people will then be able to get out there and take over their own country.

And then they were saying they weren't talking about regime change. Of course they were, but that's the point. Don't gaslight people. Right. Don't tell people stuff that they know was false. Well, because eventually when you're at war,

if you take away their nuclear ability by getting all of their, uranium in, in, in our possession, you still haven't taken their ability to fund their proxies. And back through a deal like that and through this deal, you've given them the ability.

They still have the uranium as far as we know. I don't know if any, you know, we haven't seen the text of the deal. They're going to hand it over. Are the Pakistanis going to go in and take it? Where does it go?

Because two things have to happen. And again, let's say that's part of the deal. You're still going to have them as part of the game in terms of having funding for their proxies. They're still a threat. And as long as the regime is in power,

you're not going to win this. You're not politically. This is going to look like a bungled operation from beginning to end.

And I didn't think I never would have said the night after we bombed their new sites.

And then following that, we took out the Iatola. I never would have thought it would be here. Just months later. My gosh. What the hell?

I know.

“I mean, what the Iranian people, I think they were expecting American boots on the ground.”

I think they were expecting, oh, they're going to come in and take out the regime, so we're no longer under threat. I think they were hoping that if they weren't thinking that, they were certainly hoping that. That's not going to happen. You're not going to do that a few months. We're less than 150 days from election time. You're not going to do that.

And now they know you're not going to do that because you've got to deal. Right.

And yeah, they don't believe you're going to do it. So you have no leverage. None. We are run. I radio.

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The other thing is, too, if they would have signed it electronically or whatever,

“that'd be one thing, but are they going to have a ceremony in Switzerland on Friday?”

Are United States representatives going to be taking pictures with members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard?

They're going to be shaking hands? Yeah. With the Iranians? I mean, it's just you. Mr. Trump, you've blown the mind.

Just go on social media. Look at all the totally credible conservatives and supporters of the president. Go on. I hope this is a please. Just give us the text of this whole thing.

Because what we hear right now and you're not denying it does not sound good at all. No. In fact, you're negotiating backwards. Yep. [ Music ]

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Welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America, we are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley and I'm Gary McNamara. Welcome and good morning. Hi. You know, on all the issues out there, you know, I saw CNN and Fox, you know, discussing about the UFC.

I could give a damn. I don't care.

“And I think part of what you saw the Republican or the administrations influence over the weekend.”

Let's talk about all the fluff stuff that really doesn't matter and get into discussions. There really doesn't matter whether it is UFC fight, whatever, you know, whether the reflecting pool is clear or not clear. Then it was again, all these little things I could care less about. I could care less. I care about the big things that matter.

The war, inflation. These are the things I care about. If everybody wants them CNN wants to pititdle about. Bo, should you hear the UFC? I don't give a damn.

I don't care. Don't care. I think they should have had it in the oval office. Just have them just bring the ring inside the oval office, set it up and go. No, listen.

I look at it. And by the way, I don't know if the UFC is. I don't know if that's the correct term ultimate. Well, if they're both living after the case, if they both survive the fight, then that's not ultimate. I'm not saying someone should die.

I'm just saying maybe they reconsider the name because it's not ultimate if they're both still living. But it doesn't appeal to me. It doesn't appeal to most Americans. You know, it's not something that, you know, it really is a niche group. I know a lot of people talk about it, you know, especially if they've got to get up to speed on and if they're going to appear on Joe Rogan Show.

Because he knows a lot about it. Obviously. And good for them, that's great. It's like soccer. Okay, if that's your thing.

Good for you. I'm glad you enjoy it. And you get something out of it. And they can do the analysis of did you see what he did and then did and then this happened. And then, okay, I, you know, that's fine.

And most Americans, it's again, not a needle move. You're talking about entertainment.

“It's, it's the equivalence of movie night.”

You know, it's movie night at the White House, or maybe a live play on the lawn at the White House. You know what I mean? A live concert on the, on the White House lawn, which is fine. You want to do that? I don't, fine.

But it doesn't interest me to the point. It's not important. It is not on my list of priorities. National defense is my list of priorities. And my, I can't explain to you what I felt when we took out

Iran's nooks and then later when we took out the Iotola. I cannot tell you the nuclear material. Yes. And I cannot tell you, yeah, they don't actually have the nooks or do they. And the taking out the Iotola.

You know, because the bombing of the nooks sites, we're bombing Iran. We're going to bomb Iran. We just bombed Iran. That was all unicorn territory as far as I was concerned after 47 years.

I thought it would never happen.

“It was all, okay, Hollywood made a movie, what if we bombed Iran?”

And it happened. So I can't tell you how that changed. And impacted me after going after living through all of that. From the hostage crisis on from the Jimmy Carter years on. And the Shah of Iran was in a hospital in Texas for a while.

And so was my mom. And we couldn't see her for a few weeks. I mean, it had that impact. But there were so many things in my little, I guess, I don't know if there were little or big, but moments in my life from that age on.

And it's just in the back of my mind.

Iran has always been a clear and present danger.

And now, because they included the words, Pinky Promise were not actually sure if they did that. But this is what this feels like some kind of bizarre. Oh, no, no. They said Pinky Promise.

And we did the Pinky thing at the end of the signing. Are they, you know, you brought up a good point earlier. We're going to see them shaking hands with Iran. Yeah. You know, I saw this was from an Israeli American who wrote this never in the history of the modern world.

Have you had a leader who is a few inches from total victory. And then decides to retreat and help the enemy who was on their knees and give them a lifeline. So that they can survive. This is Trump's legacy. He made it.

And he owns. And this is it. And the only reversal of that is post election taking the regime out and taking their, their all of their nuclear material or material. And I don't think that's going to happen.

I don't have confidence. That's going to happen. You know, we had, we had said this. I'm, by the way, not surprised by this because this is what we looked at the different options out there. And this was our top option.

He's, you know, going to make a week deal. But just get it out of the way.

And then you know, the first thing that we said from the very beginning, even when the ceasefire first started,

you have seriously destroyed a significant part of Iran's ability to get to the end of the war. And then the first thing that we did was to get to the end of the war. And then the first thing that we did was to get to the end of the war. And then the first thing that we did was to get to the end of the war. And then the first thing that we did was to get to the end of the war.

And then the first thing that we did was to get to the end of the war. And then the first thing that we did was to get to the end of the war. The significant part of Iran's ability over the next decade to move forward. But what you haven't done is now you've given a you've given incentive for possibly the heartliders. And more hardliners in Iran to say, wow, we can, you know, we can get more money, the blockade is lifted.

We can continue to slaughter people on the streets. We we get some sanctions. Yeah. I'm sorry, subjects, not citizens. Right.

“I think it was Andrew McCarthy that made that point though.”

The, the subjects now aren't going to want to revolt because they know the United States. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, it's just.

“And we thought this, this was at the top when we gave the, the scenarios.”

You know, last week, this is the one that we thought was most likely exactly what you're seeing.

You know, right now you put together some type of framework deal. And you just keep stretching it out as we've been doing for 47 years. Right. And now. And but the one thing you can say is we have degraded them for the next decade.

And in terms of what actually has been done in a positive way. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And, but you haven't degraded at all.

Their ability to act through their process. Well, to cause hell in the Middle East and to continually attack US interests. Right. And again, they're on citizens. All those things remain in play very much.

Yeah. They, it's and we regime is still alive. But we said from the very beginning, if you're relying on something that you're not in control of. Which is the people there revolting.

“And that's how you get your regime change.”

If if if that's what you're relying on.

You never rely in war on anything except what you are in control of.

And that's the one point that we brought up at the beginning of this. Because it can come back and blow up. And that's exactly what it seems to be doing right now. We'll see. But you go online.

You look at it. You go to acts. And these are all supporters of Trump saying why won't you release the text. Release the text of it. So we can analyze it.

You say it's great. But you've been saying all sorts of things the last month. Then ended up not being true. Let us see the actual text of it. Are they are.

Are we going to see the text after it's signed? Yeah. I'm guessing they're they will. Well, the signing, you know, as, as Lindsey Graham said. You know, this isn't really a deal.

This isn't the nuclear. The nuclear deal would have to be approved by Congress as Lindsey Graham pointed out. On on acts. So right. You know, this is, this is just the, you know, whatever the first part of it is that they've agreed to.

But if the first part is what they're saying.

Now I've seen 12 billion, 25 billion, 300 billion.

Whatever it is, if the beginning of it is. Or moves opens, straights open. The blockade is gone. And we give them a lot of them to have, well, the blockade's gone is going to put money in. To Iran to begin with.

And if we give them remove part of the sanctions to give them any billions of dollars. To open up or moves, which are already had before the war. You've just said. Iran hasn't lost no, it's all for not right. It's all for not nothing is changed.

In fact, you're relieving sanctions and allowing money to go in for what you already had before the war began. Right.

“I guess that's why I keep saying the art of the castan's a deal if this is true.”

Yeah. But as everybody's saying, well, you don't know, well, that we're least it. If you've done the deal, release the damn tax. It tells me they're not done. And or they're not proud of it because the deal, the text of the deal has to be released at some point.

Well, when you had on Sunday morning when you had vans talking about the fact that every war war two was negotiated. I mean, my god, yeah, I went, oh my god, this is not going to be good. When vans said that, either is completely ignorant of world history or he was lying one of the other because they were they're desperate to come up with something. So yeah, it was to go, well, the unconditional surrender. Yeah, but we didn't, we didn't execute the emperor.

We a lot, we have it that was because. With the pushing of MacArthur, yeah, they wanted to ensure that they could have a peaceful transition. Right. True it. And because they got the emperor to say, okay, laid on your arms, you know, if that's what you call negotiation.

It's far from this type of negotiation. It is. And I don't. I want to see the text. Certainly they have to release it after the sun.

One would think. But if it comes with a bunch of contingencies or ambiguous language. Well, even when the president came again, look, a ran wants to get rid of their nuclear weapons. He said it again on true social. A ran one, no, they don't.

No, stop it. What do you think this is all for? You know they don't. Jeffrey.

It's almost like he's shaking his fist in the air as he bellows. You better shape up Jack or else. Yeah, saying he's becoming like Biden. No, nobody will buy it anymore. This whole deal is Biden-esque.

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I was just going through and it was advice to people from Great Britain coming over here to watch the English play. Oh, yeah. In the world cup and it's like you're in different parts of the country. There aren't uniform rules when it comes to alcohol or marijuana.

“And you need to know that if you're coming over from Great Britain.”

No, that's true. I'm talking about even within, you know, the Metroplex. There's different rules with alcohol. I mean, the state rules apply, of course. But with alcohol, that's to where you can buy it.

Well, yeah, but this thing's like open container laws. Oh, yeah. Like you can't walk around with the bar on the street and apparently in parts of Great Britain. They're saying you can. Oh, yeah.

You can't walk from bar to bar with an open beer. Right. And it's like, you know, it depends where you are, but with the, the games are all over the, the country. I mean, the USA played in LA and they're going to play in Seattle and, you know, next next Friday. Right.

But I did, I did, I'm Friday. I looked at the list of when the games are in Arlington in case I'm driving anywhere in those days. And so far, I'm safe. Yeah. There isn't one day that I'm traveling.

Right.

“The, I'm going to the, the rush showing for worth a week from Friday.”

And there are no, there is no game in Dallas on that day on that Friday. And I'm like, thank goodness. Yeah. I might not be able to get an Uber. Yeah.

I rarely travel over there now. I mean, we used to work over there. You know, years ago. Yeah. Right.

Right across the, yeah. Right across the other side of I 30 just a couple miles down the road. Yeah. And that could have been nightmarish. Yeah.

I know. Still being there. But yeah. No.

It's, I don't, if all of my traveling now has been north from my house north basically.

So I don't, I don't get over there very often at all. So yeah. I don't, you know, it's interesting because there were so many local stories on it. I mean, every news organization globally was doing stories on it. But, but here locally, it just was.

It was the thing over the weekend. I was busy doing other things. So I didn't really pay attention to it. But there was a lot of that. Here's where the traffic will be.

Yeah. I would have appreciated that certainly if I had, you know, had to go in that area. Uh, that certainly would have been useful. Well, I'm near 360 that goes from the airport all the way, you know. Right.

Straight down through Arlington. Yeah. Down through South Arlington, Mansfield, Grand Prairie all the way now. 360 with the toll goes all the way down almost to, um, middle of you. Hmm.

Yeah. And, uh, and so, but most of the time, I'll take the toll away.

Yeah. I'm taking the toll away everywhere because there's a lot less traffic. But you know it, but you don't really got me over the weekend. And we'll talk about coming up behind the bottom of the hour. You know, really got me besides, I mean, the talk yesterday on the Memorandum of Understanding.

Yeah. Uh, which is being called a peace deal. Uh, a peace deal without the details. Yeah. Uh, but it was the response of the left to Elon Musk becoming a trillionaire.

Yeah, it's, you know, Bernie Sanders and, and Elizabeth Warren are already working on it.

You know, that's the problem is this all the world's trillionaire.

Because there's just one. Yeah.

“And it was, I mean, it would, if you want to, if you wanted to see jealousy, envy, and selfishness.”

Yeah. Social media on Friday and Saturday, uh, signing that. One person having all of that well, the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They have no idea how it works. No, they have no idea.

Even Mark Cuban had a come out and go, do you understand how this works? Right. Right. Do you understand when these people do this and they become this rich that it's in stock? Right.

And, and the reason that he became a trillionaire was because of people. He goes, yeah, other people. While, voluntarily, voluntarily wish to also become rich, like 60% of America. Yeah. That's in stocks.

Right.

And they always to be rich.

They're the ones that gave him the money. So they can hopefully expand their wealth. Right.

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And here's our party and I'm Gary MacMarr. We'll get to the Elon Musk stuff in just a minute. I just saw this because I'd seen it on social media. I didn't know where it was coming from. Did you see it where it was like, well,

you know, JD Vance and Kushner and Whitcoff, are for the deal and Rubio and Hague Seth were not. Yeah. And I saw that through social media. I'm like, okay, were you getting that from?

Right. So I was doing some searching here during the bottom of the hour. I finally found it. It was the Israel Ham News Service from Israel. I had it that had it out that it came out this came out.

Yeah, late yesterday afternoon, you know, after the deal was announced.

And here's what they wrote.

Trump's negotiating team, vice president, JD Vance, on voice, Jared Kushner and Steve Whitcoff, had been advocating for a deal with Iran, partly due to concerns that the regime will not collapse with any reasonable time frame and partly due to pressure from cutter.

On the other side, Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Secretary of War Pete Hague Seth recently presented an assessment that the Iranian regime is dying due to economic pressure and strengthening this pressure is the right way to achieve surrender or an overthrow of the regime.

Last week, Trump decided to pursue the deal route. The memorandum of understanding allegedly includes the suspension of all sanctions on Iran's oil sales, which could bring in 80 to 120 billion dollars a year. Treasury Secretary Scott Beson reportedly pushed against lifting sanctions on Iran

as returning to them would be problematic. Terms were changed so that the sanctions would only occur at least in part after the straight of Hormuz is fully open.

And again, do they know that?

How do they know that? How do they know what the memorandum understanding is? Is it because they're getting leaks from the Iranian, or excuse me, from the Israeli government as to what it is? And we haven't gotten it.

Because there's been no leaks, even the administration has been a lot of criticism or wondering what are you doing here? And there's no leaks saying, "Okay, I haven't seen one yet." To the Wall Street Journal, or Fox News, or anything. And this is what's included in the deal.

Based on leaks that we have from the administration.

Well, and I assumed that I was looking for leaks over the weekend,

“which is probably the only way we're going to see anything close to text.”

And it wouldn't have been text. It would have been bullet points. And I thought to myself, well, one of the possibilities is that they just don't have the deal together. The words aren't there. It's not finalized. And by that, I don't mean it.

I don't mean signed. I mean written and agreed upon in order to sign. I just have to assume the language is changing on the fly. And we're not there yet. If this thing isn't signed this week, oh my gosh.

If this thing goes full, if this one doesn't come to fruition,

I don't know what to expect from President Trump's base. I just don't. I really don't. Because I don't trust the deal. I won't trust the deal.

I don't care what the language is.

“Anything that leaves the regime in place”

means deadly and squat. They'll be acting through their practice. And they may not have the ability to send a nuke. They have the ability to attack. They have the ability to attack far outside their borders with their proxies,

which includes, by, includes, by the way, on American soil. You know, we think about, oh, kind of. We think about ISIS. We think about loan actors, you know, loan rules, the whole thing. But it comes to terrorism's, a terrorist coming across our borders.

But there is a decent chance that members of Hamas, Hezbollah, or some of their proxies from those groups are here already, waiting for orders. As long as the regime is in place, this deal means nothing. Nothing will change it around.

In fact, it actually gives the current regime and the IRGC more leverage and confidence that they can control their people. Oh, without question and if, as, you know, every news agency is reporting that there will be, you know, partial, the sanctions will be partially lifted.

The blockade will end if the straightive Hormuz would open, you know, when it opens up. And that there'd be billions in cash opened up to the Iranians for that. When then, as I said before, that's the art of the Costanza deal. You know, on Seinfeld, negotiating backwards for their deal on the pilot.

Yeah. And Jerry said, no, no, you're supposed to be negotiating up, not down George. Right. And because we already had that before,

“if that's what you've gotten out of a deal to start this out.”

The Iranians are going, yeah. What in the world? Trump, we're not, you know, because I saw Trump saying, if they don't abide by this, because there's supposed to be that negotiating period, you know,

for another 60 days and then whatever. And if all that's true, and again, that's all source base. That's why conservatives and Republicans are screaming, show us the text. Yeah.

Let us know precisely what is in it. Right. You know, because it all comes down to the regimes still going to be there.

And how are we going to get?

How are we going to get the nuclear material? How are we going to get it? Right. How are we going to verify it? Right.

Because I don't care what the promise is. The promise is, it's simply what is our verification process and how are we going to get it? Yeah. Right. Yeah.

“It's, and that's what it comes down to is that there has to be, you know,”

if you look at this entire thing, we cannot have, we just simply cannot have anything that leaves the regime in place, and that apparently is what's happening. And it's frustrating. It's a mad thing.

But I forget was it Blair that wrote, this is his legacy.

If this, if we don't know, that was the, that was the Iranian, that was the, the Israeli-American. Yeah. Okay. We said that.

Yeah. So, but, bringing Daniel Glocken from, he was from National, if you still write, we set back the nuclear program pretty far by military action in 2025 and 2026. We can possibly deter them further by 2027-2028.

That would be the president going back in again. But an agreement on paper adds nothing to that.

“But the only possible for good solution is toppling the regime.”

Well, again, you know, if we get to a point at any point beyond the election, and Trump makes the case, they violated their agreement.

We're going in and he takes out the regime.

And he takes out all of their uranium. I'll look at it and say, all right. I don't know if I can say well played because it depends on the impact of the election and the impact on the economy between now and then, because that's the only move here. The only move here right now is to settle the economy.

Energy prices is the move. That's what you're worried about. And you do this telling the world, hey, okay. All right, we're done. And then you can put that under lock and key,

and then you can just keep saying, no. Instead of repeating, we're working on a deal. We're close to a deal. You can now say, we have a deal in place. Everything's fine until election day.

And then if they continue to attack their neighbors, if they continue to kill their own people in their streets, if they continue to attack Israel, because that's the other thing I asked earlier, but it's an important question, and it bears repeating here.

“What if the attack Israel directly between now and November 3rd?”

Are you going to say, they don't have the right Israel has no right? They can only be proportional, their response? Yeah, because that's not going to fly. And that's the whole thing. Then when they hit our helicopter and they proportional response,

we said, my God, you look so damn weak. Yeah. You know, what in the hell happened? You, all you have to do by the way. We know what happened.

It's the economy. It's energy prices. Right. And the President denied it. We know he's not telling the truth.

Well, there is no other reason. What's the other reason for doing a bad deal? By the way, all you had to do in that case on the helicopter thing, on a retaliation for the helicopter downing. As you go in, you let the Pentagon do the presser.

We assess the situation to give us intel on what they had available to them. Whether it was drones or missiles, and we had to take those sights out. And that's what we did. And you just be precise about it. You don't come in and say, well, they threw one, so we're going to throw one.

And that's all we're doing. Forget the markets. And just say, at the end of that press conference, that part of this entire mission is over because we completed our objectives. And that's all you have to do.

That's it. You have headset up there. And he leads the press conference and you make it very short. And that's it. And the president doesn't have to say, hey, we learned some new things.

And we took out some sights. The presence on true social everyday in a way, saying, I don't like this part. I don't like with this part of the war. I don't like this part. That's what I mean.

It's all of this. All of this is, it's a whole point. He's all of this is hand can, could be handled very differently.

He has killed his credibility.

Yeah. On being forced. Well, they signed this with his face. If they signed this deal. And nothing happens post election.

That is his legacy. Yeah.

“And I thought to myself, and we said this multiple times after taking out their new sites,”

after taking out the, the Iotola.

This is going to be his legacy.

And this could be, could be the turning point in the Middle East. And yeah, you kicked the can for 10 years. But what does it look like a decade from now? A decade's a short period of time compared that to 47 years. Well, you see, the criticism now coming out from conservative outlets on the Board of Peace for Gaza.

Yeah. Going, this is a complete cluster. Right. Because now Hamas is going to be certainly because that's the number one play here that you got to be concerned about. You set them back for 10 years on weapons.

“You did not set them back at all on proxies.”

In fact, you've, you've re-upped their ability on proxies to attack US interests, which is why, you know, 150 over the last 18 months, right? Well, and then attack directly to and continue attacks on Israel. Oh, you're right. And then what are you going to do? You're going to tell Israel that can't. We are right. I radio.

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