06-17-26 Part Two - Confusion in the Classroom

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"This story is mind-boggling. It really, really is." "Yeah." "I mean, this is brainwashing or what? What the hell's going on?"

"The Ivy League is having a mental health crisis." "47% of surveyed seniors at Harvard indicated the experience mental illness at some point during their college career, and 13% were unsure." According to a survey of the class of 2026 conducted by the Harvard Crimson student newspaper,

that's more than double the rate of the general U.S. population, which is a federal government

national institute of mental health estimates at 23.1%. During the mental illnesses include many different conditions at varying degree of severity ranging from mild to moderate to severe.

“At Princeton, a senior survey conducted by the Princetonian, really?”

The Princetonian student newspaper found 60.1% had mental health counseling or therapy during college. But I guess the Princeton herald would sound too small-town. With 36.3% getting help from the University, it's counseling and psychological services and 23.8% finding outside assistance.

All right. Here's a question. What? What's a definition of mental illness? Well, yeah, so you and I had that conversation just kind of throwing this around during

a break earlier. There's a lot of pressure in terms of liabilities on health care providers, the doctors of clinics, right? You mentioned it to your general physician, and at that point, they're obligated to follow-up, and to which they follow-up can vary.

They can talk to you about it right there, or they can refer you to a doctor who deals directly with mental illness, psychologists, psychiatrists, whatever it's going to be.

“There has been, I believe, a lot of self-diagnosis, and I don't want to say that people”

are saying it that they believe they have a mental illness and that they're taking matters into their own hands because if they do believe they have some issues, they certainly should talk to a doctor. I highly recommend that. There is that threshold, and I think there are a couple of things on what I think has

been that the forefront of this entire thing of diagnosing mental illness is that we don't, there are a lot of things we don't tools we don't have available to actually see it, right, the infections or something like that, and other types of illness, you can measure them by the symptoms. You can also measure mental illness by symptoms through action, you can diagnose, if someone

is bipolar, there is a diagnosis, there is a set of criteria, I'm not a doctor, don't

all should be taken seriously, the question is, in the age of taking pharmaceuticals and

“then applying them in quick fashion, I mean, I believe that most doctors are really trying”

to actually help people and save them from the extremes in terms of whatever manifestation is going to be as a result of this mental illness. Very good, very good, very good, very good, very good, very good, that's a whole lot. Cool, what does that say? A computer-based, focus-managed, finance-tip, such a thing, but that is also completed.

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But when you get to Princeton, this whole thing here, when the majority of students are saying they experience that at some point,

my question is, are we talking, my first question is curiosity here?

Correlation or causation? Because there is a difference between stress, which is in their stress-related situation anxiety, and actual mental illness that is long-term. If you are bipolar or something like that, or clinical depression,

or things like that, those are all of those things are very real.

“But stress in life is natural, and it builds our body's natural ability”

to deal with that stress. We all go through it. Job-related stress, life-related stress, certainly, if you are a student at Princeton, performance-related stress, when it comes to getting the grades,

being able to pass all the tests and everything else that's in that equation. What getting back to your original question is, I'm very curious as to the criteria, and also the criteria that you have to meet in order to go to that next step of treating the manifestation, the symptoms of whatever it might be.

That's what it comes down to for me. There are very serious mental issues with individuals that need treatment, require treatment. We know that for sure. But are we also classifying or throwing in stress-related anxiety?

OK, you just hit exactly what I was exactly, because, and I think you mentioned it, when you look at being bipolar, schizophrenia, you look at things like that, manic depression. You can look at that and say, OK, those are forms of mental illness.

But you see, in the overall general population,

as reading here, like 6.5 to 8.5 percent of adults get outpatient therapy.

So at that particular point, you're talking in college today, you're talking roughly 60 percent in the Ivy League, seeking help for mental illness, and you talked about stress. A couple of times in business, the stress was there every day, and you need to learn how to handle it,

“and it was incredible stress. I remember that I had one job.”

I mean, it was just-- the stress was just unbelievable. And every day, after work, all I did was go out and play basketball. And I remember thinking to myself, here's your choice to handle it. Either go out and play basketball, which, again, pushing and shoving, and, you know, everything that goes on, the physical contact on there,

but the time I was done, I was exhausted and went to sleep.

I always dealt with stress through physical exercise.

For me, it was running. Yeah. So when it was-- and it was-- I mean, and it was every single day, and it was like, wow, the other time, and I've talked about it, and it's quite humorous. And I think it was just-- I think it was, I would say, more being having a extremely competitive attitude

You know, having that competition of wanting to win, but not preparing. And that was with my golf game when I was in my '40s. And I'd gotten-- I'd gotten the best I'd ever gotten to be, and I couldn't get any better. Right. And I was like to say,

I mean, really wasn't, but I mean, I always say,

I had the rage of a serial killer directed at myself. But I'd finish around. I wouldn't talk to anybody. I'd be furious for hours. You know, three or four hours afterwards. I didn't want to talk to anybody. I was furious. I remember thinking to myself, all right,

“this could lead to something bad. You need to get over this.”

And I actually quit golf for a while. And went back to, you know, playing more basketball, a little bit of hockey, stuff like that. And, you know, but I remember saying to myself, I mean, it was so illogical to have that much rage.

And then, as I'm having the rage, I realize,

well, you're not preparing properly myself. Right. You know, and thinking to-- but other than that, in college, I was working two jobs and having so much fun, mental illness, nobody. I didn't know, and everybody that I-- and I probably hung around with 50 different people.

Everybody was having a great time, and was looking, you know, and here's the point that we talk about the Ivy League schools,

“because I think this is important to bring up, because we bring up stress,”

and not being able to handle stress, but is that mental illness? Right.

The other thing is, and you and I've talked about this,

woke liberalism. When you're told you're a victim every day, when you told you can't make it, when you're told that you should feel guilty because of your race, when you're being told that you need to act this way and be this way. And if you're not, you're shunned by peers.

Yeah. Is that part of it? I would have to say that has to be part of it. Well, I go back to the stats on adolescent women, and the suicide rate that had gone through the roof during COVID. And again, causation, correlation, I can't tell you. But what I can't tell you is a world was telling young women

as they were coming into, you know, that coming of age, moment or moments in their life, they were being told by the world. Everyone of authority had seemed that if you breathe on someone, you could kill them if they breathe on you, you could die. And if you equate that to the world's ending,

and the young women who were telling lawmakers, we're sitting in a classroom, and we don't understand why we're even here, because the world is going to end because of climate change. Those are very real fears. And they, and they believe it. They were raving maniacs. They were, and that's a emotional nightmare screaming

that the world's going to end and it's all, and adults are the ones is, is that a learned behavior? And that's my point. Is that a mental illness or is that brainwashing? And it's brainwashing because if you can be brainwashing, is that a form of mental illness? Well, it can drive a panic disorder, and that's the problem. If you're triggering a panic disorder, I'm just now learning about how

our hormones in our body are directly related to the brain, and how the brain is is wired, and we have a family long-time friends of ours who's daughter's going through something horrific right now. And I didn't know the relation between hormones and the brain to that extent, and she's going through a really horrible time.

And we've been praying for them, and it's about all we could do. And I did some more reading. I just did some more, I was just curious, trying to learn about what was going on. And at that age of adolescence, when a motion, you know, hormones are raging, a motion leads, and you can grab them and instill that fear with these ultimate

“fear moments or scenarios, then you should expect nothing less than that to manifest”

into some kind of panic disorder. And that's very real. And that's still a play at college age. That's still in play at that age when the mind is impressionable. It's why you want to teach them at those years. You know, we don't, we don't wait and go to elementary school starting at 50. And I'll tell you this, at 50, probably got a

impressionable minds because we know for a fact, everything language and all of it

is learned in those younger years. Well, when you're instilling fear, expect that to manifest into something bad if it's not tempered with coping skills, and also realism along the way. Look, I, I'm not a doctor. Don't pretend to be, but I know the reality of raising children and now grandchildren being a part of their lives, and I see these things every single day in the world they live in.

And if we're going to tell them that the world is ending, you know, that if we're going to tell them, you know, everything depends on this, and then we throw everything at them,

“and you have to include what's going on with edibles, what's going on with energy drinks,”

what's going on with, you know, teams were told that young people aren't drinking as much alcohol.

I guess that's certainly a good thing, but if edibles are part of the equation, what else is part of changing the chemistry of that brain? Okay, so you think that if I start a new push to drink heavily to save your mental health because they've stopped, and I can justify that if they're drinking less, that's why the mental illness is there. I probably can't sell that to the problem. Probably not. Okay, because I'm guessing that realism will kick in and

it will, you realize that the morning after creates the rebound of that. No, but, you know, speaking of that, I do remember actually having that thought, you know, it's like, I guess, you know, because you're just so stressed, you could back home from work, and it was just like, should I have a drink, and it's like, I remember making that conscious choice, yeah, either I drink, or I just, every day I come home from work the first thing I do is head to the basketball,

where are you self out? Where, and that was it, where am I self out? I went, yeah, that's

and then I'd go to sleep. Right. And that is, you know, physical exercises always help me with that,

but I don't know, does, does, does stress lead to mental illness, or does mental illness lead to not being able to handle stress? Or does stress and stress related, what they call

“situational anxiety is, is a temporary illness. Yeah. And does that qualify and belong in that category?”

Which, which, yeah, which gets me back to my original question, yeah, define mental illness. Right. Exactly. We are Red Eye Radio. Brought to you by FPPF, fuel power max. Uncompensated, detention-ed docs, frustrates drivers of all strikes. If you're an owner operator, you have at least some control over the matter. Make the subject a standard part of your rate and/or contract negotiations on the front end. You can use your own numbers to calculate an

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to help keep you are rig running with more mileage and less maintenance. Coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley, it's Red Eye Radio. Here when I ready, oh, he is here, Crowley, and I'm Gary McNamara. You know, I have a notice that you have liberals out there saying, you know, why don't conservatives like soccer? You're not rooting for the USA and all that, which is, of course, is ridiculous. We just do just because you don't like,

you know, soccer isn't your favorite sport. Doesn't mean you're not rooting for the USA to win. I don't know anyone that's, I don't know anyone that's not rooting for the USA to win. I'm not. I'll wait a minute. Only because Justin Trudeau is. Hold it. What? Wait a minute. What? Let's, let's see the two candidates that are running for New York's 13th congressional district when it comes who they want to win it all in the world cup. Okay. There we go.

stadium taking place in New Jersey, even though some people say it is technically New Yorker,

but what do you think will win it all? Who are you rooting for? I like Mexico. Mexico. There you go. There you go. There you go. Boo USA. Oh, you're rooting for Mexico set ago. Or are they saying that's who they think is going to win? He said he said shooting, right, but at the end he said at the end, she said rooting for it. Right. But who do you think's going

“to take it all? Yeah. And so, but why would you not have confidence in the USA?”

You're running for office, right? I know. Well, in the app store, red. Oh, radio. Where when I radio, he is here. Protein. I'm Gary McNamara. Welcome in a good morning. Wow, this was this this whole thing about the the plot to attack the UF UFC freedom 250 event. Yeah, I guess today. Yeah. The the FBI and its law enforcement partners disrupted and alleged

plot targeting this weekend's UFC freedom 250 event in DC five people were in custody as of Monday and investigators identified 23 people as part of a potential network of plotters. The alleged

“plan involved using explosive laden drones to hit buildings near the event for some mass evacuation”

and steer crowds toward a pre-staged sniper team official said the second wave was an

allegedly planned to storm the White House gate according to officials. The FBI first learned of the threat on June 10th and worked with partners to secure a probable cause for an arrest in Cincinnati where one suspect was taken into custody court documents identified the suspect as 19 year old Tyson proper according to criminal complaints proper allegedly spent not making this up $3,000 of his graduation money to purchase lots of ammunition guns,

extra magazines and other items for the attack authorities estimated that several boxes of ammunition that proper had allegedly acquired contained thousands of rounds. It was also alleged that proper required an AR style rifle a bullpup rifle painted with an American flag and two plate carriers with AR style magazines. His family voluntarily turned over the equipment to law enforcement, his father told officers that proper had quit his job to meet up with people he had met online

to conduct missions and recon's according to the complaint and said that proper's mother had first

alerted authorities over concerns about his recent alleged firearm purchases and communications with individuals online to others identified as Brian Omarro and Michael Allen Thomas were arrested in California for alleged involvement in the plot. Both men were charged with conspiracy to commit murder they appeared in court on Monday in Riverside, California. Daniel Eskidge of Kansas City, Missouri and Abraham Alvarez of Omaha were also arrested. Court documents

said Eskidge's wife told investigators he described himself as a recruiter for the group that had a mass tactical gear including a rifle ammunition and other equipment in recent months. She also said he built a firearms range on his property about three weeks before his arrest and that she was aware of his signal communications through messages that appeared on a tablet

“that they shared, Alvarez allegedly operated under the online monitor, shepherd and served as a key”

organizer for the plot using a signal chat to direct staging locations, sniper and drone positions, escape routes and communication protocols according to the documents prosecutors said he also discussed coordinating with other groups and urge participants to obtain explosive capable drones writing as many as deadly as we can get multiple sources told Fox News that those in custody are

How does the sound familiar? What happened just a few miles from where I live? This is the attack

“on the Texas ice facility that happened last summer and they met online according to authorities,”

those individuals that were responsible. Now you have these individuals from according to the reports meeting online and they're from all different parts of the country and they're organizing. Now think about what it takes according to these reports if these reports are accurate and true. Think about what it takes. Thank goodness the family members looked at this at least in a couple of

instances here with these people said, yeah, this doesn't look right and reported it to authorities

because they're not. Where would this have gone? Investigators later uncovered signal chats in which multiple people allegedly discuss the UFC event in an issue review of one suspect's iPhone identified at least 23 signal users discussing pre-operational activities. Some of those involved allegedly planned to travel to Fredericksburg, Virginia on June 12th or 13th to prepare for the attack. One suspect told investigators the goal was to target capitalist elites,

billionaires or politicians who received donations from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee.

“Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Now this could have been bad. I think that everyone expected that when we”

talked about the freedom 250 events that there were going to be certainly some radical activists. But this is part of the dangerous world we live in when these types of individuals decide they want to do damage. If not for the family members, I wonder how much intel there would have been and preventing I know an attack here. Yeah, I don't know about the the wife of one of them, you know, she said she had seen it, but they were talking about because they they shared the

tablets so she saw the messages. I don't know. It doesn't say she reported it, but obviously she had no problem talking to law enforcement. Yeah, at some point she gave them help. We don't know at which point. That is disturbing. That's the world we live in. Radical activists who will do anything. They will they have no value for life. None. And if given a chance they'll take it. We've seen it. Multiple attempts on the President's life, the assassination of Charlie Kirk,

we've seen this over and over and over again, how radical and dangerous these radicals are. And the goal, what was down here in Texas, which was a conspiracy to kill ice agents. Right. And border patrol agents. Right. And another attack that happened within days. Yeah, that same attack one in Dallas. Yeah. Well, there was one in Dallas. There was another one in South Texas. So it's it's it's just. Reality. It's the world we live in. And it won't stop.

I don't know what you do about security and in such massive venues where you want people to be welcome. There's protocol in terms of keeping officials secure. The President's secure. But they're looking to do damage and kill anybody and everybody that would support the president or

“any of these events. And that's what they this is what they want. Retired FBI agent Jason”

Pak told Fox News digital that the alleged scheme appeared to have moved beyond online rhetoric and into operational planning. This is a real threat describing it as organized political violence with specific targets. He said the most troubling aspect was the apparent shift from ideology to actual preparation, including recruitment across multiple state encrypted communications, logistical planning and identifying staging areas. Well, Pak questioned whether every phase of the

alleged plot would have succeeded. He said parts of it appeared to be technically feasible and would have

network, saying the investigation began after. Oh, she's just it's just my just flipped on me here.

That the appointed the role of human intelligence and disrupting the alleged networks and the

“investigation began after somebody's family member got worried and called it in. That's how this”

got stopped. So there you go. Yeah, again, if not for the family member, how far would this go? What have gone? They're not done. No. These radicals are held bent. I'm taking lives. Period.

And that's a scary thing when you can get 23 people online. Who who we assume don't know each other.

They met online. That's what the report says. They met online. That tells me they didn't know each other before. And again, they they don't appear to care if they leave an electronic trail. Now, they didn't discover them because of that.

“But the fact is the electronic trail is what ties them all together into a, you know, conspiracy”

to murder, which puts you in jail for a heck of a long time when the federal government, oh, yeah, federal government has the, has the goods on you. Right.

Conspiracy to commit murder on the federal level. Well, added an event that the president was

going to attend. Right. Now, we don't, I mean, he makes a great point. We don't know how close they could get with secret service. Yeah, not sure. You know, all around there, but would there have been fatalities, you know, could they have, and we've seen, we've seen no matter how much secret service protection you've had. Why do we have correspondence dinner? I mean, you know, when those correspondence dinner, the president, the president and multiple attempts there. Right.

By the way, we also have to include the fact that Iran still has a bounty on the president's head. We have seen nowhere where that has been lifted. We know they want to take out the president and Intel tells us that. What I wonder is, you know, it looks like they've got enough here because they probably, they've got the signal communications. Yeah. One, I, I guess my question would be in this come, and this isn't criticism. It's a question. Why didn't they wait so a bunch of them

traveled to Virginia? Because then that's the slam dunk. You're all heading there for a particular reason, and was the one guy going to jump in is where they're going to go by car? Because they wish they've weapons, the weapons are going to be in their vehicles. Yeah. All they have is just enough to constitute a plot. Probably. And if, if that's all you have, anyway, because they, they were, you know, they intervene, the authorities intervene as a result of the tip from the families.

Then you've got enough for the plot. Yeah. You just, you just wonder if it's even stronger, though, if they move to that, we're going to meet in Virginia, and they all drive to Virginia. Well, and that one's a question is, you know, you don't realize we have, remember the guy that wanted to blow up a building in Dallas and the FBI set him up completely, and I actually pushed the button. He had, he had a fake device in his hand that he thought was real. Right. So they didn't

push the button. They didn't wait to just the planning stage. Right. They waited till he thought he was

“actually doing it, and then you got it slam dunk at that point. Right. And that's why I'm wondering”

why the FBI didn't let it go a little bit further if they knew about it, because obviously they could have followed the cars or done whatever. Maybe they thought there was a chance that they didn't have every actor, every participant here in their radar and that they didn't want to take a chance at letting one of them through. I don't know. Could be. Yeah. And speculation on it, but just aggression not making a comment, and it's it's not a judgment on it. Right. Just wondering. Yeah. We are right

I radio. Get in touch with what I radio. Tol-free at 8.6. Monday. We're right I radio. He's early and I'm Gary McNamara. We're talking about mental illness earlier and how many college students in the Ivy League claim that they have suffered from mental illness like 60% 60. Either suffered

And so that maybe think of James Carvelle. He's been doing this slightly. He's trying to make a

“prediction that Trump's going to resign. Yeah. You've seen that? Yeah. Yeah. No. He's got like a timeline.”

What is I mean, I don't understand. I don't know. Is that a poly-market thing? Is he trying to

mock me? Yeah. It makes a money. Now it's Hillary's I'm by Easter of 2027. Yeah. Okay. Right. I just

number one, if here's the point, if the Democrats hypothetically come after him, the safest thing

to do is to stay as president. Yeah. I don't see him. It doesn't make any. But it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. It's not going to be interesting. Well, the Democrats are going to be coming after me. He's going to have enough. He's going to, well, no, if the Democrats come after him, he's safer as president.

“Well, here's the thing. Russian collusion. Yeah. The Russian hoax, if he didn't get out of the”

game after that, nothing will get him out of the game. But legally, as when he's president, they can't touch him. No. So why would he resign? It does it. I'm, it's like travel. Right. In fact, they would, him resigning and him no longer being president, then legally, they could try and go away. Right. So it doesn't make Carble talking about this. It's like, what? Of course,

“anything he, he says Carble says lately is. Has anybody asked Mary about him? Is he okay?”

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