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your day. Welcome to the show from the Relief Factor Studios. This is Red Eye Radio. All across America. We are Red Eye Radio. He is Eric Hurley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Again, the show interfering with my reading. What are you reading? Well, I was actually reading a Trade Magazine. But I said, I wonder if this applies to me. Yeah, and you would mention it, and I was actually reading the article, you mentioned Barrett Media, and a great trade magazine
for a radio, and I just happen to see this column talk radio burnout when it's time to walk away. For for the individual? Yeah, the talk for the talk. Not for the listener.
And I've never done a time to walk away for the listener. To be clear, how do you reconnect with
that first moment of love? If that love has changed, is it time to walk away on your own terms and
“divorce the industry? You know, you still love radio. Yeah. Do you still have that spark?”
I don't know of a time in my career that I've been more enthusiastic. I know. And gotten greater satisfaction from what I do. You and I talked about this off here. We often talk about it off the air. That we really do love doing this. I'm very grateful for the fact that people choose to seek us out. They don't have to. There's so many things you can listen to. Yeah, whatever podcast, you know, anything and everything. And they also choose us. And that to me is
so humbling. I know. Of course, I know why. It's because we're excellent. But it's but it's to me that's that's since I was 18. When I could say something and somebody would respond
“to it. Like a caller, we'd call in, you know, respond. It was music radio, you know, and they call”
and, you know, or I go we go to do a live remote somewhere. This is when I was doing a, you know, a local show and people would show up. You'd promote it. You'd say, hey, we're going to be here. Come see us and people will come out. In fact, Sam from San Antonio went to Bristol where we had Shell wrote that'll super rigs this year and wanted to shake my hand. He lives in San Antonio. And he came up and just wanted to say hi, listens every morning. And I love that because,
you know, San Antonio del Rio, my old stomping grounds. I'm not sure how much stomping I did. But it was, it was so great to see that. And you and I have seen that before where, you know,
we've been at events and people come up and, and that's, you know, just amazing. But I can't imagine.
In fact, vacation and it's, I'm, I'm very serious about this. The vacation is difficult. I don't mind having more time with my lovely bright. I really don't. She might have a different opinion about that. But I love spending time with her. And I, you know, that's great. She did not have the, the week off. In fact, she worked in a penance day. She worked through that weekend and everything. She's working a lot of overtime here lately. But having this,
having this here, every night and coming back to this, the, the recent death of my brother, you know, it, it wasn't that this was, that, that work was a distraction or getting back to normal. It was that I felt like I was coming back into my other family, my work family here. You guys here in the, in the studio that I work with, but the listener family and it was, and still is therapeutic in that we can sit and talk about. And I, you know, not every talk show host
does this, but I think you and I have really been clear about, we'll, we'll talk, we're not going
To be on the tribal thing.
person, we're going to express our convictions. And there is something they're a huge about being able to do it. I, I, I don't get that same therapy, you know, that same satisfaction
from social media. I never have because, you know, it just kind of falls into the void. There's too
many distractions. Yeah, exactly. Very good, very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. This is very good. That's a lot of that. The fact that the barmed-est computer-built focus mani chip finance chip such the
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blow it. The Jim Rome show podcast. You've been warned. If I would listen on your favorite platform. There's too many. You know, I was thinking about this actually when I was reading an article about about Lindsey Graham, how much he loved the job, how he was addicted to the job, how he wanted to. And you know, you saw the, you know, of course, a political criticism is there. Yeah, but but he didn't support Trump. Then he did support Trump. Yeah, but that's the politics of it. He knew
he could have influenced by standing by Trump on a variety of different issues. Even at times,
“you said, eh, Lindsey, do you really believe this? Yeah. Are you kissing a little butt there?”
Right. But you can understand that the whole goal was to get what he wanted and what he wanted,
what he really focused on. And as we said yesterday was the fact that Lindsey Graham was one of those people forget about anything domestic policy that you disagreed with. On the level of protecting America from our enemies and recognizing our enemies, whether it's Putin, G, Islamic Jihad, you know, Sharia supremacy. He was absolutely adamant. And however, he could do that to promote that, which I believe is absolutely necessary because there's not a lot of people. You know,
it's there's, you know, you've got the whole Democratic party. Well, there's really no difference between Sharia supremacy and the mega churches in Texas. You see, no, I'm trying to make the right equivalent. I just use that. I just came up with that in my head right there. It could be Catholicism, it could be whatever. That there's really, of course, there's a difference. Yes. It's like saying there's no difference between Sharia supremacy and our democracy here. Right. That that we have.
And I know we're a constitutional Republican under the umbrella, the general umbrella of a democracy, just for the knit pickers out there. And, but it was his passion and love and his joy to go anywhere.
“And I went, wow, that's how I, that's how I feel about this job. I thought about that yesterday.”
So when I saw that article, I went, wow, that's really interesting. I have way more passion and fun now than I've ever had in my radio career, because for so much of the career, you're trying to figure what to do and how to present it and hot, hot, hot a present it. Yeah. And when you're in that time of trying to find yourself, management, who is probably more clueless than you are, except our management. Well, they're, they're, they're like,
talking away, way, way, way, way back when. Yeah. But they were younger. Yeah. The management, they were early in your career. Early in my career, the management, they, they were all in their 20s and 30s. They didn't know. Yeah. And so you're dealing with a bunch of people who don't know. And so you just go do what you do every day, but that that pressure is there every day, trying to please yourself, please the audience, and please the management. And it is a tough thing
to get through that stress. That's all gone now. Right. It's gone. They're because they're on our if you love doing it, then you're going to be thoughtful about that presentation. Well, along with everybody has grown. Yeah. Management is older. The talent, you know, everybody has got to a certain point. Right. And when, okay, now that I've been in this business as long as I have, I realize that we still know nothing, go do what you do and have fun and be yourself. Yeah. Well, you know,
and I kind of feel like, again, you know, I made the joke earlier about, I start, I restart the
Clock on my career every night at, you know, the show comes on.
about, and you and I've talked about this before. We feel like we need to show up and earn it all over again for the audience because, you know, we may get compliments on them, and the show you did today or yesterday or whatever, today's podcast was, man, it was awesome. You know, blah, blah, blah, blah.
That can't go to my head. It never does. I'm not able to, to let that feed any ego because
I realize, yeah, but I could screw it up, Roy. Well, we're in the immediacy news entertainment sector, which is, you know, you're current, you're current today. It's not like we put out, uh, Elton John's good by Yellowberg Road, you can sit back ahead of the century. Right now, everybody thinks that's a great, that's a lesson to what it's all about. What, what, what, what a great album. Oh my gosh, looking back, but then again, and you know, the other thing that
dry, that I look at, when you look at musicians or when you look at sports people who keep,
“and I know a couple that keep reflecting their whole life is still reflecting back”
to 30 years ago, 40 years ago, 50 years ago. Their whole mindset is what they had done.
I'm so glad I'm not there. They may be comfortable in it. I couldn't become, and I'm not, it's not a criticism. It's that I couldn't do that. Yeah. I just can't look, I can't look back. I can't, and a lot in those professions, you know, because your career, normally for most musicians, probably, is two or three great albums, and then everything is playing the hits, and nobody, we know it's well-known in the music industry. We don't care about
your new song. Yeah. Now, the great bands are the ones where people do care about their new music. Well, I don't remember the, the, the hairband warrant talked about walking into their record label one time, and they're, they're album, a huge wall-sized poster of their album cover was on, you know, the, the wall, as you walk into the reception area. And then they walked in the next time it wasn't just a few months later, and it was Alice in chains. And it was like, oh, things that
changed. Well, a bit. And I understand that this is a business where, you know, you'll, because it's current event. It's current for today. But once we're gone, you know, in a few years, everybody forgets and moves on to the next thing. That's just the reality of the business. But it's also the beauty of the business is that you get to do it. You get to live in it. You get to live in it every single day and everything that you do is is fresh.
“And that's not the appreciation comes from, I think. Yeah. It's, you know, because it's,”
it's like, yeah, I get to talk about because if, if I'm, you know, at some point all have to retire. I'm thinking probably 95. God willing, I live that long. I'm thinking 95. I'll probably hang it up. But if, you know, if I look at this situation as long as I'm of this mindset and it keeps growing every day, I'm, I'm a little more excited, um, encouraged. And I guess in love with, married to, you know, the job as they put it, you know, in the, in the article, you know, it's,
it may be a sign to break up with your, your career if you don't enjoy it. Which isn't, by the way, bad advice, if you don't enjoy it. But it's a, it's a foreign thought to me. And, and I think
it comes from having the creative ability that we have here on this show that you don't always have.
You're, you know, we don't have the bosses and down the hallway right now, you know, and they do let us do our thing. And we also understand there's a responsibility in staying on top of things, um, you know, and then, you know, breaking news and everything that comes along with what you're doing. So, but all of that to me is enjoyable. When we get into serious breaking news while I don't like the nature of the story, you know, quite possibly, there's an adrenaline rush. Well, there,
there is, I, I, I take great pride in wanting to get it right for the audience. Like we've said, we don't care about being first. We just want to get what we know at report, what we know where we tell the audience where we're getting it from. And then being able to report that breaking news, I take great pride in doing it and taking a thoughtful approach to it. You know, the, the, the,
“the best thing is when you look at, you know, the, uh, being in the media in any particular way,”
you know, whether, you know, musician or, uh, with actor, for example, you, everybody's looking back at the things you've done in the past. I just love being in something where, you know,
The career's now, what 45 years and 46 years, whatever it is now.
every day. Yeah. To me, that I, I'm so appreciative of that because it doesn't exist. I couldn't
imagine being in music and people going, could you play that hit, Gary, that you had 1977? Yeah, the first song I ever played on the air at this small country station where I started,
“was Emeril, by morning. George straight. And, you know, I think of it, that song is,”
you know, it seems ancient. It's a great song. Uh, it's actually his version of it. There was another version of it before that. But I think about that. I think about all the, I, uh, young Reba McIntyre, the judge's when they were first starting out and all this. And it's just
amazing to think about, you know, and, and I, if I were an, if I were an art, if I were doing
music presentation as a DJ, you know, on the air, I wouldn't feel like I was serving an audience. Now, the music serves the audience. Yeah. Um, I couldn't do music. But yeah, it's, I just don't, it would be, it would be, it would be so boring. And we, we both did it. I don't remember the first song I played on commercial radio, but I do know the first song I ever played in front of a
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We are Red Eye Radio and these are currently an I'm Gary McNamara. You know the funniest thing the last two days that I've seen and a lot of the you know substance has been happening made it so we didn't cover this one yet but the CNBC survey. That has been mocked tremendously because it ranked all red states as the worst places to live in the country. Of course.
Of course. And Tennessee was first and Texas was second. What they did was they took all liberal issues.
All liberal issues. What liberals want. And the red states were ranked low on all these liberal issues. They're four. They're the worst states to live in. And it's like wow all these people are moving to these states though in the top 10 from blue states apparently these people don't know
“what's important to them. Wow. What's interesting is that I believe it's actually part of an”
effort of you know warning any of the people that have not left the blue states yet of oh you don't want to live in these states there there is that and in here in Texas a couple of newspapers the San Antonio Express I think was one of them and the Austin states been the Houston Chronicle maybe the Dallas morning news a few of them have done stories like well some people are moving out of Texas well of course they are. I know as if you know as if nobody's
moving out of Texas and everybody's moving to Texas. I know somebody who's listening to our show great person yeah their families in California they move back yeah so they're both sort of
You know family and friends are all there and so that happens all the time ri...
so you've been people moving from every state all the time it's where though the net result is
“right and why and why why why not that migration is happening right the reason why it's happening”
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know said see I told you it's all the red states yeah they're bad and and I like this one
this is represent of lands good and of Texas if you hate not paying income taxes law and order
“parental rights smaller government school choice the second amendment and criminal illegal”
immigrants being arrested here's another garbage list from the mainstream media and I love this one oh you know one Texas resident conservative activist robby starbuck at Texas resident said actually I noticed something the list is BS that it has nothing to do with quality of life
for sane people because what reasons a tendency was number one as the worst place to live
was because of the bathroom law yeah because because Tennessee has has the law that says men must use male restrooms and females that's a horrible place to live oh my god
“but I'll hear about the humanity what a horrible place to live oh my gosh”
and and that was the the the the number one reason the number two reason was country music obviously well some of the days country music yeah there is that debate is it country music well you know when they put start putting the snaps and it the snap beats and country music I had a couple of I won't say who they were there a duo and they're done pretty well but as songwriters they've done really well and we were having this long conversation about
a gun I don't know how that started where it just this in the the little snap beats you know in the background it's like that's not I don't know no no no no I you know I don't need steel guitar and fiddle and every song I would prefer it but I understand you're not going to do that and every song and especially today you know I mean that's you know I love older country music it's what I grew up on so but yeah I was kidding yeah I know it actually I don't
think it actually did make the the the the list what about the death penalty did that oh it has to oh yeah that's got to be part of it yes yeah yeah well there is no quality of life if you're dead right there against the death penalty but pro abortion well that's another thing if you access to abortion if you're reproductive rights you're a better place to to to to live except you'll be dead right if you're Jaywalk it's not true we don't have the death penalty for
Jaywalk now if you're littering while you're Jaywalking it's definitely the death penalty well as we know I mean the the stereotype of Texas is true because what we do every day we jump into our pickup trucks with our gun rack and our empty beer cans in the back and we all had out in order to cheer the latest execution in Huntsville dude are you stalking me that's exactly what I do a beer cans in the back meanwhile in other topics the daylight saving time build
clears house rules committee vote yeah we go again six to four and we'd let states lock in year-round daylight saving time I guess it would still be states choice or what it would allow
States to enact daylight saving time year-round yeah there we can't you do th...
no it's I forget what the qualification for is why in Arizona most of Arizona right doesn't subscribe to it right so and honestly this is a debate where I don't care it doesn't matter
“too it really it doesn't affect me really well so the the only thing I keep thinking of is”
if it doesn't get light in some states until 839 o'clock in the morning you're going to have people complaining about kids going to school that would be the complaint I would see
yeah look I live in a school zone I'm four houses down basically from the elementary school where
three of my four children attended one of my grand children is attending that school right now and there's a six-lane road you have to cross and it's you know it's 20 miles an hour it's schools on so they're driving slowly but it's a lot of cars in that zone and as a parent that'd be a concern you know I mean there's no doubt now that I'm not a parent of small children
“I don't care but no no it's there's going to be concerns one way or the other which is why”
I don't think they'll ever get it done I just don't think they'll ever get it done you know I
read one art of the revotes because this story makes it sound like they have the vote it it it the committee vote was six to four no there was a wider there was a wider committee that was like something like 48 to one I gotta go back and and find the article I don't even know if I bookmarked it because I because I'm not confident it's going to happen here it is the legislation momentum comes from a house energy and commerce committee overwhelmingly past the measure
48 to one in May yeah okay yeah so then where does it go in the Senate and and you know what cases are going to be made you're going to have you know lobbyists up there oh we can't do this we can't do that we gotta have this we gotta have that and you know all all making I'm sure solid points for their interest but I don't think it's going to change well for me how will I know when to change my nine
vote battery and my smoke detectors when it starts beeping which of course when does it happen
does it ever happen no we do no always when I'm asleep well I like the I like the new ones
that have the basically the batteries closed and it's like ten years like okay I like that yeah
“yeah you don't it but I think those are the the one I have is a combination I've got two I've got”
you know one uh carbon monoxide detector yeah in my bedroom right and then one then I have one a double one smoke detector and carbon monoxide detector in my kitchen yeah I have them all in all the bedrooms hallway oh then I smoke detectors like four more around the house yeah and then in kitchen and and they're all combo now carbon monoxide and and and smoke detectors um they you know the hmm I just don't think they're gonna get it done if they get it done it's gonna be weird
and it's gonna be odd I when they moved it though when they moved it back to earlier in the year and then later in the fall you know that was like what are you doing you know I mean I know what you're attempting to do but you get so much sunlight and and again it's about as you mentioned yeah but when we operate in the sunlight versus the dark and everything else you know is a big deal I don't know what stats show on car accidents like in the morning we talk about kids going school but
are there more car accidents in the morning you know at the sun's not up yet I mean really traffic an area starts at 5 a.m. the heavy traffic I mean it starts zooming at 5 a.m. but you know so I don't know you know that I don't have an opinion on it I would rather not change the clocks based on the health aspect of it because that's measurable I mean we're less productive after
The clock change that's a nation we're just less productive some people you k...
affect as bad as others but I don't you know at at my age it's like well you know the incredible
thing is the the difference depending on where you live for example when I was in the Buffalo couple of weeks ago in the hotel and I was facing the east right and the windows of my hotel room were open yeah or they're not the windows but the the blinds were we're up the shades were up and I had said it early you know to be over at my dad's house next thing I know the sun's in my eyes it's coming up right there and it's shining right in my face I wake up in a panic
it's 540 in the morning yeah right right now right there the the the sun will rise in in Dallas
today at 630 right it rises in Buffalo New York at 550 a.m. right we're closer to the equator exactly
yeah and so you you know when you when you look at that I mean it's like uh here I'm still comfortable with it you know it's like you the the sun coming up at 630 well that's that's that's good enough for me but I can't imagine it because there will be places where the sun it's still going to be dark between 830 and 9 o'clock cloudy days you know it's going to be really dark and well they talk about Alaska is going to put some parts of northern Alaska it's like you might not see any
daylight was that the movie 28 days after or whatever it's like you might not see any daylight for
time of the vampire yeah the zombie vampire thing whatever it was yeah and so it's you know
there there was there's a few articles over the weekend once said there was conversation about removing the eastern time zone and I said what what what I remember they moved remember they moved the clocks you that when you changed them they changed when we're
“going to do it in order to save electricity and never worked yeah that's what I was saying earlier”
when you know now we change them earlier in the spring and later in the fall you know and it's not doing what it's and you know what that was intended to do and I just don't again I don't see it I don't see it happening they talk about it um this year seems to have more momentum but the moment you do it you know once it's implemented it happens then it's just going to be you know people on Capitol Hill change your back change your back change your back change your back
you know for a long time you can do it it gives it gives states the ability it's not going to be a nationwide log if states the ability to do it my question is why can part why can people do it already I don't I don't understand the enforcement authority of this I yeah I forget why those those two states have that exemption I don't I I read it over the weekend and I I can't remember why that exemption is in place in Arizona the Navajo nation does not do with the rest of the
state does and so for part of the year they're on they're on different time by an hour so
“in Texas I think the only mountain I think the only mountain time zone is El Paso”
right is that right I think that's right so Arizona along with Hawaii is exempt from daylight saving time because the state legislature officially opted out in 1968 okay yeah so they're ran while and so they already had the ability to do it right that's my point does this well or is that can they no longer opt out is that exemption gone and was that grandfather dead okay it's a good point you know I don't know so and again the Navajo nation does not do with the rest of the state does
in Arizona so for part of the year they're on a different time zone and in Arizona you want it to stay dark as long as well you you want less sunlight for sure for sure
“I think they take less sunlight you know a lot of people live there for the warmth but yeah”
this time of year I probably take a little less sunlight yeah every time I think it's hot here and we'll get somebody from Arizona hold my beer guys yeah yeah yeah that and Las Vegas yeah
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“we are when I radio these are crummy and I'm Gary McNamara interesting you know the the main”
Senate race versus now the South Carolina Senate race yeah the interesting to me that that
comparison is going to be made how they're going to have an open primary and how they're going to elect it in Maine there's going to be a big comparison between the two states on that yeah
“I mean the Republicans are going to you're not going to have Democrats promoting it but you're”
going to have Republicans probably look you know we're about democracy they're not right yep
it will be interesting to see the Lieutenant Governor's been talked about about jumping in Nancy Mace you know the Betty nods on CNN yeah 4% for her for Nancy Mace yeah
the Betty nods that's where the money is yeah yeah it's uh not a not a strong bet
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