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08-19-26 Part Two - Fake Pollster Shuts Down

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In part two of Red Eye Radio with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley, polling firm closes down after it faked polling on Los Angeles Mayor Bass and former Wisconsin gubernatorial candidate Francesca H...

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β€œWe talked about the polling for the Wisconsin primary Democratic primary.”

You saw that story yesterday.

A polling outfit that admitted surveys it released on the Los Angeles Mayors race and the Democratic gubernatorial primary in Wisconsin were fake and is now out of business. Were they in? If it was fake and they sold the poll to anybody, then they've committed fraud. Median strategies, a company that released polls indicating Democratic Mayor Karen Bass

of Los Angeles and Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial candidate Francis Gahong, leading their rivals by wide margins, and ounces week that the surveys were a hoax and then as closed its doors, the fabricated polls by media strategies entered the political information ecosystem and were reported on social media by some local TV newscast and by online reporting outlets. Media strategies was created as a short term social experience to examine how purported

polling information could enter and spread throughout the political information ecosystem without independent verification. The company posted on its website, media strategies has concluded it's polling project that was not a polling project and will not publish additional polls. The company told Fox News, the organization was not affiliated with any candidate, political

action committee, or party media strategies first released a poll showing Bass with the

12-point lead over the Los Angeles City Council Member Raman, a rival in the June Merrill primary in a Democrat socialist of America member, the polls cited the responses of 560 people from Los Angeles and a 4.1 margin of error was completely bogus. Well, Bass ended up edging Raman by five points in the primary with Republican Spencer Pratt, who was running as an independent in the Democratic-dominated city coming in

third. So, there you go, looking at the, what is this here, in Wisconsin, a media strategies survey indicated, a state representative in a DSA member leading Milwaukee County executive David Crowley by 20 points ahead of last week's primary. It was largely in line with a couple of other public opinion polls that hung with, that

hung had a large lead. I don't think we ever saw that one or looked at that one, even in the last five polls that we read. I did some research. I couldn't, I couldn't find it, I can't go back, I can't go back on my ex account and

find it. I don't. Yeah, maybe I can. Because I can still look at it, I just can't post on it. My compromise, my hacked ex account, by the way.

Right. Crowley ended up defeating Hong by a razor-thin margin, but their legitimate polls out there

β€œthat had, what, 23, 29, remember that, well, there were polls, I'm sorry, I said the”

legitimate. Well, there were other polls, so-called pollsters out there, but at least we know one. Because one of the questions we're asking is we were looking for, for example, Trafalgar or whatever, to look at it and say, you know, you were really close on the South Carolina. Right.

Local elections. What did they do wrong here? So we know one poll, what they did wrong, it was completely made up.

They have here a purported polling firm that released Milwaukee Journal Senti...

polling firm that released results in the final days of the Democratic primary for Wisconsin

Governor has now revealed that its survey was faked and created as a social experiment. But unlike in the Los Angeles mayoral rates, the poll does not appear to have been reported widely if at all in Wisconsin or cited by any campaigns here, a firm called Median

β€œStrategies released a poll, you know, red eye polling, that sounds good, doesn't it?”

Like, right eye, a new red eye poll, a new red eye poll says says the Democratic Socialist of America are bad soup crazy. 100% of respondents, Eric, which includes only two people. Allen, you in on this. Yeah. Okay.

Sarah Allen also. Now, we've just increased our number of respondents by 50%. It's right. That's right. Not a third.

It's 50%. That's right. It's great point.

We're growing as a pollster by the second, still a small sample, still a small sample.

But you cannot, you cannot deny it is 100%. In response to questions from the Los Angeles Times, Median acknowledged, on August 17th, it was a fake operation, Median Strategies website was down for much of the morning of August 18th, and all of its social media posts have been deleted. But our Kyvelings show the website displayed a message explaining the polls for fake.

Yeah. All previous published polling releases have been withdrawn and should not be cited or treated as genuine polling data, Median Strategies was created as a short term social experiment, examining how purported polling information.

I love this, how purported polling information could enter and spread through the political

information ecosystem without independent verification. Now, the thing they should have done is said, Crowley was up by 20. Because if you're in line with all the other well-known pollsters that have been out there for a while, I said, well, no one may be not accurate. Yeah.

β€œThen you want to make it look like, right, there's a need to get out, right?”

Yep. As spokesman for Bass's campaign told California Base News Media that the poll was supported by multiple news outlets, and any bad faith attempts to influence election should be investigated and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. By the way, this, you know, social experiment, it was done as a social experiment.

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This, look, so-called legitimate pollsters, there's, we've been asking the question. If you're off, if you've been doing it for so long, and they're off by double digits on a regular basis, then there is something wrong with the methodology or you're deliberately skewing the numbers. If you keep repeating the mistakes, then they're not mistakes.

You're doing it deliberately. It want to be accurate, so you change your methodology from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel instead results from state navigate.

β€œI remember we read those sponsored by a liberal leaning group, a news outlet, or the long”

standing market university law school poll, both of which share their methodology's online.

We're often referenced in forecast of the Democratic primary for governor, Ch...

who directs a market poll, so the median poll strategy never crossed his radar or showed

up on polling aggregates he follows. He's unsure if the public will ever figure out who's behind the project, if it's someone trying to influence betting markets, who or even a misguided social scientist, betting markets, no news outlets and Wisconsin appear to report or cite the bogus poll. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel also did not receive a news release about the poll, which

pollsters typically send to media.

The New York Times and Rio Clear polling also did not seem to include the fake poll. And that's where we got the majority of our polling.

β€œI do remember, again, there was a, there was a, some excite that, that I can't remember”

who I don't remember who it was that had the five last polling. Polls that were done right before I don't know if median strategies was in that one. The fake measures, here's the whole point though. The fake median strategies result were not far off from the other polls in the race. Several polls showed hung with about 40% of the vote total, which he achieved, but did

not provide evidence that large numbers of undecided voters would break forοΏ½οΏ½e pushing him just ahead of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of Hong, Anthony, Trigoski, a political science professor at the University of Wisconsin lacrosse noted the fake poll might not have broken through because it was consistent with other polls. Yeah.

β€œI mean, what's the social experiment if you agree with the legit polls?”

Right. The social experiment would be disagree with those pollsters, because I don't know if we're just trying to figure out what's the social, social experiment here. That's a great point though was the goal to affect the betting markets on this. Well, I'd love to know. I'd love to know. There's a lot of that going on these days. I mean, the thing is you could go to the other posters. The posters that I've been around for a long, long time.

And you know, you could sit there and say, see, we were completely fake. And we were just as close as the other poles that were completely wrong.

Okay. So here would be an interesting social, if this were a social, I don't believe, I don't buy for a second. It was a social experiment.

My version of a social experiment, in this case, would have been put two fake names up.

β€œRight. The Republican Mike Wilson, against the Democrat, Janet McNamara, who would you support, right?”

And see, the social experiment is to see how knowledgeable people are on the election, right? The question would be, are people up to date? Are they aware of who's running? And we used completely made up names of people who aren't in the race. And yet we had most response. And so if you, if it came back that 80% said neither, because I don't recognize those names, well, then that would be a positive response or positive outcome in the social experiment. And at least 80% I'd still want to talk to the 20%. But 80% were saying, no, those are the people running. And they're at least aware of who's running. That would be a social experiment.

Yeah, I don't understand. I mean, explain the social experiment. Yeah, hard of it. Everybody seems to be confused about it. But I do think one of the great accusations are, did they do that to affect the betting markets and did it? I don't think it did because all the, you know, long lasting posters out there even made, you know, were further off than the fake poll.

Right.

Yeah, I don't know what the social, again, if you're looking for the reaction, would you, if you had put out, if you would put out that Crowley was going to win.

Yeah. And you, you know, and, and nobody questioned you on it, or they did question you on it. I still don't know what the social experiment is. Yes. Yeah. I still, I want to know why.

I'm going to my mind there. I can't help you there. Right. What were you trying to find out an experiment? You're looking to find something out. You're looking to learn something.

β€œWhat were you looking to learn with this social experiment?”

I don't get it. No. You're going to do what? I don't buy it. Makes no sense at all. Right.

Again, it would be very obvious if you used two fake names. Candidates that actually don't exist, and then you got a overwhelming response. You know, by people who are clearly clueless. You have the majority of people actually answered the question. And, and, and, and only 20% said no, those aren't the people running.

That, but at least in your case, you would have done a poll. Yeah, what have done a poll, right? What the question is bogus, but you would have done a poll. Right. You didn't even do a poll.

Right.

They just said, okay, here's what we believe it's going to be.

Right. You're just throwing it out. That's not a social experiment. That's fraud. Yeah, I agree.

That's fraud. I mean, you're, you're, it's, it legally may not. I don't know what the laws are.

β€œIt, again, was there some participation in polling markets, right?”

The betting, the odds, the whole thing, and money involved. I guess you would have to investigate that. It's technically not fraud. Unless I'm missing some, uh, some laws somewhere where you could qualify it as fraud. But to me, it's fraudulent.

Certainly fraudulent nature. Yeah. You're, you're lying. It's not a real poll. You didn't do a poll.

Right. By the way, that's the cheapest way to go. Yeah, you don't get any trouble if you ask a false question. Right. Do a legit poll.

Right. And then come on.

β€œSaid the social experiment was, uh, and then you state the goal.”

You're, experiment. Right. We were trying to find out how, how many people knew who was running. Yeah. Doesn't seem to be an academic.

No. Experiment. No. No. Interesting.

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I haven't even taken a look at the polls for the races in Florida. We will get to that. I just thought about that. Let's examine them and how close they were, especially on the summer. Well, on the Democrat primaries, I just want to see how close they were.

We just haven't paid them as much attention to that because Florida is more of a reliable Red State.

It will be interesting to see.

I saw that this was again a hypothetical matchup that Donald's was ahead of Jolly by an average of five in Florida.

β€œAnd again, he's going to attempt, we don't buy it.”

We don't buy that because when he was asked about, oh, I can't think I just popped out of my mind. The name of the DSA candidate for Senate that he's campaigned with her and finds her to be energetic and active yet he rejects it completely. You don't reject socialism communism and then campaign with people in your party to promote it. Right, exactly. You can't do that. You're not going to get away with a big tent argument to know. Powered by windmills and silver panels, red by radio.

We are on our radio. He's here crawling and I'm hearing McNamara download our Red Eye Radio app today. Why? Because you can listen to us right after our show is over. And by the way, did that over the weekend, too? What's that?

Uh, met some people and they downloaded immediately. Oh, yeah, immediately. Good.

Over the weekend. They tell you that I tell you about how I love going into my hotel. Uh, I'm a meta woman there. And she's actually moving from Texas to Buffalo. Uh, she Texas her life, whatever, really doesn't like the heat. Uh, I had a ton of things in her life and everything else. So her and her news husband wanted to get away and they chose Buffalo. All right, to go and uh, to go and live.

Here I am meeting a person. She put the granite countertops in my house.

β€œWow. What are the odds? I know. It's like, what are the odds?”

It's like, what? She put there. She worked for the builder, the built my house and put the granite countertops in my house. That's crazy. You know, it's like one of my mom's nurses in her that come to come to her home.

They got to talking when she first started and she told my mom asked her where to come from.

She told her, this small town, you probably wouldn't know it. She told her my mom says, well, yeah, I lived there as a child. And she says, well, you know, what did you do there? I mean, there's not much, there's not a hospital there. So she goes, no, I was taking care of a man and he passed away of Enfizima CLPD. She goes, well, my brother had that my twin brother. She said, yeah, and then later I took care of his widow.

Wow. And she had cancer. She died of cancer. She was, well, my sister-in-law was where their names and she gave them the name, yes, this nurse lived and lived right across the street from the house that my, because my uncle, my mom's twin brother bought my grandmother's house when she passed. And totally, he was a great, great builder home builder.

And totally renovated it in the whole thing, and that's where they lived until, until they passed. And she, as a nurse, took care of them. And then randomly moves about an hour and a half away. And is the one taking care of my mom? It's just insane.

One of those small world or fate kind of things. For that, I mean, we're talking Texas to Buffalo. And then you just bump into each other, you know, and I'll tell the lobby, it was the lobby bar where I'm limited. I limit myself one glass of wine. Yeah, that's it.

One glass of wine. Now it's an 80 ounce glass, but no one is like no one's counting. I can sip, oh, see, and why a wine?

β€œYeah, because of beer, you want to drink it while it's cold, right?”

So you're going to drink it, wine you can sip on for, you can nurse it for three hours. Yeah. So yeah, they call that nursing it. Exactly. Right.

Speaking of nursing. Yeah. You just, because you said that, I had to go with this. Okay. To mark national breastfeeding month, observed every August,

the main state breastfeeding coalition posted an image, celebrating trans lactation, two spirit and chest feeding.

The image was posted to the coalition's Instagram page earlier in August.

However, the account appears to have since been deleted.

The image featured a large trans identified male hooked up to a breast pump. The male is seen holding a mug that reads milk makes families. They says this is a biological female. Trans male. I'm not sure.

Because if it's a biological male. That baby is going to be very hungry. Yes. Now, it says the male is seen. And this is written by the post millennial and the post millennial would not use the pronoun.

The male is seen holding a mug that reads milk makes families. The caption reads national breastfeeding month is for every family, a company by a trans flag emoji. We're proud to celebrate an uplift trans lactation, chest feeding, and two spirit families during the national breastfeeding month.

β€œNow, I did look up two spirits because remember we had talked about the two spirits before.”

And two spirits actually fits the definition of rice white. Rice white said he's a female for basketball. It describes individuals who embody both masculine and feminine spirits. Well, there you go.

The term combined sexual gender and spiritual identities representing traditional third gender or alternative social roles recognized in many indigenous cultures before European colonization.

Are you listening to WNBA? Yes. That's why you can't argue with it. And the two spirit comes from when we first saw the term comes from also Native American. The Indian Health Services has two spirit.

They comes from, you know, it's second here. I'm having, is widely, two spirit identity is widely believed to be the result of supernatural intervention in the form of visions or dreams. The visions or dreams sanctioned by tribal mythology, where you are both genders. So basically the spirit and the floating gender is what Royce White claims he is. It's used by that, but the term also combines sexual gender, you know, for regular people to spirit.

You know, if you're, I mean, if you're not Native American, right?

Not that you're not a regular person if you're Native American, you are. Yes.

β€œBut yes, so that's what it's, so that fits Royce White perfectly.”

Who said, nope, I'm a female for basketball. You're allowed to have two spirits. And they can't say no, no, they can't say no. Which is why they're screaming, don't talk about it anymore. Just stop, talk, it's not important, stop talking about it.

We just wanted, we just wanted to wear the t-shirt and look like a hero. We just wanted to say things and pretend we were advocates. Yes, exactly, you're not. No, you're not. Now you're intentions for your gender matter, apparently.

But they can't matter, your intentions can't matter, which is why this is an important. Why they're making a big deal of it. Nobody's talking about it. It's not that big of a deal, you brought it up. He's responding.

Yeah. And you don't get to make the rules. So the one thing when I was up in New York, I think the high was 81. At night it went down into the 50s.

Yeah, come back here. Oh, man. We're not getting below 81 at night. I know.

β€œI think we're, I think we made 108 in my town yesterday.”

Yeah. And this will be like 109, could be 109, 110 this weekend. Funny thing is, when it was as hot as yesterday, I jumped in the pool very quickly. Yeah.

Just swam a couple of laps again. It was like four o'clock, so the sun isn't right down on it. But I'm not attempting to, I want to make it clear.

I didn't go in the pool in the sun.

My goal is not to assimilate to the tanning culture.

Hmm. I simply wanted to swim a couple of laps. I was not like Francis Gohan. I was not trying to assimilate to somebody else's skin color, even a skin color that might be mine if I'm out on the sun longer.

Yeah, well.

β€œBut it brought up how important air conditioning is because I thought about this.”

People ask what's your definition of rich. And I knew what it was when I was younger when I was a teenager. When I had no money at all, no money at all.

And it was one thing basically, initially.

Now it's two things. The first one is I can do any repair on my car and not go into debt. No, yeah, right. And number two, I can ensure that every mayor June, I get a complete work over or maintenance done on the air conditioner and check everything.

β€œSo I can have full confidence and no worries at all that the air conditioning will work in August.”

And why is that important? And by the way, thank you Willis Carrier from Buffalo, New York, for inventing air conditioning. And I have two of his units. But the reason I bring this up, Wall Street Journal editorial. The economic case for European air conditioning productivity plumets when workers without AC suffer from heat stress.

I did not know this. Listen to this. Europe is sweltering again through one heat wave after another this summer. And as I say, the the rejection of air conditioning comes at an economic cost. Productivity suffers along with the workforce.

Many European offices and apartment buildings were designed to retain heat. And air conditioning penetration averages. Nineteen percent compared with some ninety percent in the United States, according to report this year by Alliance research and arm of the insurance company. One result, even indoor workers are not insulated from the misery. The economic consequences extend beyond discomfort.

Heat stress hurts workers sleep cognitive function decision making and performance the report says. Alliance estimates workers hourly output declines by a dollar and 30 cents for every degree between 30 and 35 Celsius 85 and 95 degrees Fahrenheit. That makes European businesses less profitable and less competitive. Alliance examined productivity during unusually hot years.

And it concludes at heat waves cost between 0.3 and 0.5 percent of European GDP overall.

And more than 1 percent of GDP in heat prone southern regions. This translates to lower tax revenue to that's especially bad news for France, where heat stress could worsen and already high expected fiscal deficit the report warns. Yeah, Europe will face economic cost related to warming even if ambitious climate migration goals are met says a report last year from assessing climate change risks in Europe, a European Union funded research effort. But the continent can reduce the harm by better adapting the study found that broader AC adoption could have huge economic benefits of 46 to 69 billion by 2050.

And important co-benefit would be fewer heat related fatalities. So there you go. Yeah, I mean it really is about health especially you talk about if you lived in the south long enough you understand it during this time of year. See all types of reports of all right and on the news you'll see it a check on your elderly neighbors quite often because if you're on a fixed income. You may not be able to afford air conditioning.

If you live in an older house your air conditioning may not work if if you have it may not work as well as it needs to. You want to check on people and then of course there's the right here are the cooling centers that are open during the day.

β€œIf you need to go to a place with air conditioning it's about health.”

It's it's not just about comfort.

You know, for me I had to learn to work on my aces for a couple of reasons.

I'm an on again off again landlord but beyond that I wanted to be able to do that if it happened and I couldn't get a guy out to fix my AC.

β€œThere are a couple of things I can't do but most things I can do on AC units now and I had to learn that.”

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Just really interesting yesterday. We were talking about air conditioning and I said I went and jumped in the the pool late yesterday after

noon and so I jumped in. I don't know what my water is right now but we've been up you know between like 103 and 17 or 108 the last week.

β€œYeah and so the pool temperature starts going up the the most the hottest my pools ever gotten was 101 a few years ago.”

Yeah. Yeah the pool water got to be it's only 5 feet deep 101. So it's got to be in the 90s right now. So I go on suns out probably like 178 and didn't stay out. I mean I got it's it's covered where I walk out. I just jump in the pool and it feels cool instantaneously. And then swam a couple laps got up stood up. I got the chills because the air is so dry the water's evaporating from me and I got cold. Yeah that's something how the hell can I be cold with water in the 90s and 17 outside.

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