08-27-26 Part Two - Remembering Tim Curry

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“first thing I think of is Home Alone 2. And it's like, "Well, what about the Rocky”

Horror Picture Show?" When I went, "Are you kidding me? I was never into that at all."

First of all, I'm not a fan of musicals, and people want to go and they want to do the cosplay and sing along, and that's great. Whatever. That's fine. For me, it was, and it was a TV movie. Actually, it was a mini-series. It, Stephen King. Oh, yeah, yeah. And, yeah, thanks. And that makeup was perfect. It was, oh my gosh, scary. And I thought, that's one of the cave, right? Yeah, it's a cave. And it starts with, you know, him hiding in the sewer

drain. Yeah, okay. The whole thing, and then the balloons, and all of that. But his face

in that clown makeup. I never had, you know, some people will tell you, "Oh, man, I got

a fear of clowns. I never had a fear of clowns until then." And it was just, I mean,

“it was just all day, scary. And Richard Thomas was in that movie, it was, you know?”

Yes. And it was, it was, I'm not, I'm not the biggest Stephen King fan. I just take it, you know, movie by movie book by book, whatever. It's, you know, there are some that I like, and some that I like. And that one, though. And that's tough for you since you agree with this politics. Oh, I'm such a big fan of his politics. I, 100% agree. It's a big tent here at Red Eyewitness. It's not that big of a tent. And it wouldn't be a

circus tent with clowns, I'll tell you that right now. But it's, no, but it, it was, I, for me, I don't know, maybe it's growing up with those TV movies that came out. I think of

“Kurt Russell as Elvis. I think of all these great movies that were T made for TV movies.”

And this was the Stephen King miniseries, basically. And it was, man, it was, Tim Curry in that makeup. I didn't know that he had suffered a stroke a few years ago. And he had basically been trying to recover sense. And I saw an interview with him. This goes back several months. And I, I, I, I had no idea. I had no idea. You know, when, when Dolly pardon passed, we didn't really know of her cancer. There was something going on. We knew

when her sister put out the message saying, we need you to pray for Dolly. And then Dolly came out and said, hey, there's nothing wrong. She's, you know, I'm fine. God bless my sister, but I'm going to be around for a long time. And that kind of thing. But when artists kind of keep that to themselves. And I think I thought immediately of Norma Donald, who

never, he was battling cancer. They say for over 10 years. Yep. Never once brought it up. And

you know, his last stand-up bed he did on Letterman, which was his last appearance on Letterman like in Letterman's last week on CBS. He cried at the end because Letterman gave him so much airtime over the years. And, but I had to wonder, you know, after he had passed, how much of that was, you know, he knew that this was, you know, it was just that it was the end of an era, but also at that time he was battling his illness. So there's a lot of stuff

that you don't see by these, these famous people. And it is actually by design. The word is Norma Donald didn't want people to think of him in that way. They wanted him to think of him because of his comedy. And you could probably, I don't know this. You could probably apply that to Dalai Parton. She's somebody who was a dork. She did probably didn't want to burden people

I don't know about Jim Curry because he did eventually talk about his stroke. But dying at the age

“of 80 because he said during the interview, you know, every day is a challenge he had been recovering”

for quite some time of this stroke. And every day was a challenge. And again, this goes back several months is one, several months ago is what I saw it. And I don't know exactly what I can't remember when that stroke happened. But he said he had been fighting to recover from that stroke and had limited mobility sense. You know, because you think about it when you're a celebrity and you have a very, very sad story, you know, a sickness, for example, Christina Appalachate. Yeah,

yeah, from married with children. Yeah, who battles MS? Yeah. And she was in the hospital for a while there. Yeah. She just got out of what a couple of weeks ago again. Right. And she talks publicly, you know, about it. Now, she doesn't have, you know, for example, she's not active really. Right. You know, she, she wasn't a couple of things. But, you know, it's extremely sad. I don't mind it if they do that. It doesn't bother me at all. Yeah. I still. If they talk about it.

“If they talk about the realness. Oh, no, I think it's, I think, I think the other intent is to”

help people and say, hey, you know, for those going through it, a progressive MS is is is very, very, very, and a tough. And it makes me appreciate because, you know, as remember when married with children was controversial, now you see, well, it would be today for the for the woke, it would be. Yeah. But if it could like on YouTube, all the clips are there. I mean, because I just let it run and all of a sudden there's a bunch of married with children.

By the way, the greatest populist speech ever in the history of Hollywood was Al Bundy and the

beer tax, the best ever best ever populist speech that's ever been done. Jady Vance will never

come close to that. But Al Bundy did, but she had such an incredible, I mean, her, her timing, her comedic timing was some of the best I've ever seen from a young actor ever. I mean, she was just and the drummer she was, the better she could pull it off. And I don't think it's appreciated because married with children was just viewed by some as sort of a, a B comedy kind of throw away. It's throw away and it wasn't. I mean, it was, it was well written, well, extremely,

and with age, it's like a fine wine. Yeah. You know, because just of the the topics that they,

that they, that they cover and that, you know, basically, they're the Babylon B, nothing is sacred

at all. It's sort of like a mad magazine, whatever, on everything. And everybody's in on the joke and everybody is is laughing, but her sense of comedic timing to me is some of the best I've ever seen on TV. It's all. I mean, it's that she was, she was that good at it and, um, and was so young in, in doing it. But the U.S. soccer podcast, I'm your host Megan Klingerberg and after interviewing so many dudes during this men's world cup, I'm so happy to be back with my U.S. one zash team players.

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“I never forget when I work at a radio station one time and everybody except me. Maybe a couple”

of other people. They were all into the Rocky Horror Picture Show and it got to be Halloween. Somebody got to come on, Gary, you got to, I don't want to go. No. So I went, I was in the other room. I just watched like three seconds. I was like, oh, not into it, guys. It's not my thing. Yeah, I just, you know what they said to me? We sat and watched your Buffalo Bills lose another Super Bowl with you. That was, so as if I owed them then, I owed them to watch the Rocky Horror Pictures Show.

And I was like, I just, I just, I just, done doing anything for me. I would just, but you know, it's, uh, Tim Curry had a great comedy timing. You know, he, he, he was, I'd very good. Oh, and, and, and home alone, too. Yeah. He was fantastic. Yeah. Absolutely fantastic. Yeah.

But I'll never look, I'll never look at clowns at the same because of him. You know, because you can

That didn't happen in that movie with him. It actually accentuated. And I think it's great. Maybe the

“makeup artists who were responsible for that would have knew that. And the casting agents and”

everyone knew that it actually brought out his facial features that made him look scary. And that is tough to do. That was a great observation. You know, it's, it wasn't, you could have put, I guess, a number of people actors in that makeup. But Tim Curry's eyes, his big eyes, and then his, his mouth and because the clown had fangs, his mouth with the things, you can't duplicate that with, I would be hard to duplicate that. That, that's his facial

features coming through that makeup. And that was the monster part. The clown isn't the monster. He became, he made the clown the monster. And that's, that was actually pretty scary to me.

“I mean, it was just well done. I, you know, I didn't, I don't freak out over horror movies,”

but that was well done. Well done. And, you know, you, you look at performers. And, and it's, you know, you, you see, thinking of Tim Curry at the age of 80. The thinking of Dolly part and at the age of 80. And that's because, well, the thanks to an, and she'll, she would have said this, she said it many times, thanks to surgery. Most of her body wasn't 80. Yeah. No, but that's a great point. There's some people that are that are ageless. I can't

imagine an 80-year-old Tim Curry, can't imagine an 80-year-old Dolly part. Well, Dolly's, mindset, the, the, the, the, the stereotype of it, the stereotype of an, of an 80-year-old, what you would expect from the average person who was slowed down. Yeah. A little bit, you know,

a little bit hunched over. Right. You could never imagine Tim Curry like that.

Could never imagine Dolly part like that. No, she, she, and, and every time she went out, she was, she presented herself exactly in the same manner, energy-wise, smile, sense of humor, and, of course, the makeup and the hair and the outfit. All of it, she knew. This is what my audience, this is what the public expects of me, and this is who I am as a person. So, that's who I'm going to be. You know, you think about it, the makeup and the hair,

and everything else yet yet, she related to the common person. Unlike, I don't know. She just had, she crossed all cultural boundaries. Well, all political boundaries, cultural boundaries, music boundaries, whatever. She just crossed everything. It didn't matter that she had the big hair, the makeup, the glittery, not of that matter. Nobody, everybody got who she was. There was, she was viewed as genuine. Yes. And with, with, I was about to say,

artificial stuff is no one that has been more genuine. While on the outside presenting, let's just face it, not very genuine. You know, think about that. I know, because it would be easy, you know, to just say, well, she's all hair and makeup. She's all hair and makeup, and also what was on the inside as a person was extremely genuine. I don't think anybody has ever, ever, except for Gene Simmons at his, warned that much

makeup, that big hair heals that high, and then come off as a mostly grounded person as well. Yeah. Yeah. But maybe those two people, the only ones ever, but she was. And she was,

once you never saw Gene Simmons in his heyday, you know, because he was always in the makeup,

right, you didn't see a lot of interviews. Right. She was who she was with the makeup. They won. They won. That would be the difference. I was. And she, and again, she quit a successful show, leaving the Porto Wagner show went on her own, and knew she had more, you know, and to offer as an artist,

“and her work speaks for itself. I mean, if you want to talk about global respect that cross-genres.”

Yeah. I mean, when when she was nominated, you know, in the whole rock and roll hall of fame,

and also, again, you think about the trend center that that she was in terms of her work,

what she created as a music, as a songwriter and performer, you know, and probably maybe with her and makeup, too. You know, she encouraged people, some women out there, but, but it was really about her as a person, you know. So, yeah, sat to hear about Tim Curry. I hate that anybody would have to suffer for, for any amount of time after a stroke or whatever illness. And certainly still, really, you know, from from the death of Dolly Pardon, Adele.

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“Do you remember just a couple of weeks ago when AOC was doing that interview and she was saying”

while that woke one, you know, that was, you know, that was, that was old stuff, you know, we've gone from that. We've gone and we went, what are you talking about? You haven't moved on at all and then she said, well, are you a member of the, you're, you're not a member of the DSA? No, no, no, no, will you remember the New York? Oh, yeah, the local one, but not the national. And we went, she's trying to separate herself from the DSA. That's not going to work.

No, the national DSA is going to say, what are you talking about? Are you trying to say, you're not a part of us? Because the whole thing where she talked about woke one, oh, that was just a silly thing that happened because of the times or whatever. Yeah, what are you talking about? woke two is worse and woke one. Yes. Well, AOC rejoins the DSA after membership labs of seven years.

Yeah, of course she had to, I'm sure she heard from the DSA. Don't you dare try to separate yourself from us? Well, no, that's, look, you can't. The, the radicals lead and you cannot try and there's no way. You can't, you can't get out of it. You're not, I've been predicting this stuff for years. You know, at some point, you become the oppressor if you're not going to be as radical or more radical than the, than, than the most radical of the left, then you're out.

And they'll come after you. And it's really interesting. The DSA said, it decided to disclose AOC's membership details amid reports that she could run for president in the next election cycle. I'm telling you, it came from that interview where she tried to distance herself from the DSA. Oh, yeah, I'm a part of the DSA, local chapter of New York, but not the national. Oh, no, not the national. And they just let it go. And you and I both said at the

time we went, I wonder if the national DSA is going to allow her to get away with it. No, no,

“you cannot try it. And that's what she was the whole concept of that interview. She was trying”

to set herself up as a moderate. Yeah. Oh, what happened then? That was because of 2020. But, I mean, yeah, that's why I forgot the word she used. Right. But she tried to poo poo with it. That's a big deal. Oh, no, no, I'm not a part of the national DSA just the local in New York. Uh-huh. Sorry, AOC. Can't get away with that.

We are Red Eye Radio. He is there, Crowley, and I'm Gary McNamara. Oh, my gosh. What? What? You

got it. What do you have? What? What's happening? What was it? Uh-huh. Mark Kelly. He was on with peppermint patty on MS now. Yeah. That's Jen Socky for people who don't know. Right. Listen to this, all right. You and I have not talked about this off here. Okay. Yeah. On Wednesday's broadcast of MSN, what time is it? The briefing with peppermint patty, Senator Mark Kelly said Secretary of War, Pete Heggsets attitude that the U.S. military is all about killing people is not healthy.

“He said, I think the Secretary of Defense has done the members of the military of big”

disservice. By the way, he's been conducting himself on the job, getting on stage, talking about

the, you know, about focusing on the military being lethal. You know, that attitude from the top, it's not healthy for members of the military to hear this. I mean, just to stop, he was saying today. So you could see why officers who have attended service academies, imagine if you went to West Point and every day you were walking by a plaque where it says when the lawn orders are in conflict, you follow the law. And then you think about that. And you

think about some of the things the military is being asked to do. And then you have a Secretary

Defense that's talked about setting records, 10,000 targets struck in this period of time. And

“now we set a new record 12,000. What an idiot. Yeah. That's what the military is about.”

We live at a society. You know, it was the same thing. You know, you saw how many people were deported from Washington. Yeah. You saw that last week or last week and thousands. Yeah. Not a peep. Americans want things done. They don't want to know how the sausage is made. And that's what that's what Mark Kelly is doing there. That's the reason that the military exists. Military exists to defend the United States of America and to protect our national interests.

How do you do that? How does the military do that? You kill people. Yeah. You have to defend the U.S. and how do you defend the U.S. You kill people. You kill the enemy. There's nothing immoral about saying that. And this is where Mark Kelly drew. You know, he sort of goes along. It's interesting because he is out in space a lot. Remember he talked when he was talking

to that that one, uh, I don't know, blogger, liberal blogger on the steps of somewhere. And she said, we really don't need billionaires. You know, you're right. We really don't need billionaires. Do you have a mind of your owner? You're out in space somewhere, sir. Well, no, I mean, it's like for the longest time. He'd remember he stayed quiet on issues. He wouldn't say. He wouldn't answer questions. And now you're right. He just seems to follow wherever the radicals are going. If

and I don't agree with everything, headset has done. But I do agree with his focus on ensuring that the military is not a woke organization whose job is to make everybody happy. It's about defeating the enemy into defeat the enemy. You got to kill people. Yep.

“And so when he talks about setting a record for targets, when you say that, what does that do?”

When you're the secretary of defense secretary of war? Whatever. When you're in charge of the military. Yeah. And you're out there saying, we just set a record by targeting 14,000 instead of 12,000. What does that tell your enemy? We're better at getting you. What do I do? That's a, you say that because it's a deterrent. Yep. You know, for somebody being an astronaut, he really seems like he has no clue on so many different issues.

No, I mean, that's he has been completely close. Yeah. But we're learning his convictions, the military killing people. That shouldn't be a thing. Well, then what, what would they do? Take their weapons away? Have them become no offense to mall cops, mall cops, stop,

You're, you're just absolutely, but, but he does, but he does hit a nerve with a significant

portion of the population that doesn't want to know what you actually have to do. Well, but this, and I think the immigration thing was perfect. Yeah. We're still doing the same thing. It's just they're not publicized in it. The American public is fine with it. Well, and you're, here's another thing, too. What is he doing here? He's, I'm sorry, my immigration, no, I'm just right. I'm just using the immigration. Sure. But what is he doing here? Overall,

we don't need the military. That's right, off the DSA. That's part of their goal. They're so he's jumping on to it by saying it differently, but it's the same idea. And that's it. Immigration? Same thing. Open borders. And he's absolutely close. You've got to look, if you're going to be radical, you've got to lead Senator Kelly. You can't

just go out there and go, oh, yeah. And we should be, and then soft walk, basically the same

“ideas. Nope. But it is, again, there is what's significant is he realizes, and that's why”

use immigration as an example, that the American public knows what these organizations do, they want them to do it, but don't talk about what you actually do. No. Yeah, don't. He, he, he, he, he, he, don't. Don't, don't let us know. You know, it's like the public on the national debt. They don't care. No. You, you take the polling. Look at the polling when you take the polling on the debt. We need to do something about it. We need to do something about it.

And then you ask them, should we spend more money in order to take care of everybody? What's

more important? Spending more money or the debt? Spending more money wins every time. Or it's the same thing where the public says, we got to do something about the debt. We got to do something about the debt. We got, how do we do it? Well, you get rid of wasteful spending and you get rid of foreign aid. And that solves the problem. All right, where would you cut the budget? Right. Does the budget need to be cut? Absolutely. Where would you cut it? And those are

the only two things. And it doesn't get you to where you need. And everything else, the public wishes to increase public spending on, but doesn't want to pay any more taxes. Right. So a lot of what happens here, the reason that the Democrats can do what they do when the reason the Republicans can move more left on economics is because the people of the United States and a growing number of the people of the United States, what is a percentage? I don't know,

polls don't ask these kind of questions. Say one thing, but when you ask them to explain it, when they explain it, it's the exact opposite of what they claim they want. Yeah. Or they just don't want to talk about it. Don't tell us how the sausage is made. Right. We don't want to be a part of that. That's somebody else. No, that's your responsibility as a citizen

“to know what's going on. You need to know what the military's about. You need to pay attention”

as a citizen and know what they're doing. You don't sit there and just go, well, that's what they do. I'm in support of it, but I don't want to think about it. That's the reality of the real world. Yep. And so I credit Hague set and I've criticized Hague set and so if you, we've no problem doing it. Right. But not on this case. No. Because number one, when he does that, that's the reality of what the military is about. Well, and it's, and it's also about the

fact of he's promoting how the military is getting better when it comes to targeting, we shouldn't be talking about the fact that we can target more, that we can target more particular areas than we could ever before and that we're a much more efficient military than we were before

“because that entails killing people and we can't promote that. Of course we can't. That's what”

determines the enemy. Yes. We're coming after you. We'll find you. Yeah. We will, we will hunt you down and we will take you out. Mark Kelly tried to promote himself as a moderate. He's anything

real conviction. He's a whimper. He's just a whim. And this is the problem Senator Kelly in space.

“No one can hear you cry. Maybe that's why he stayed up there so long.”

Just, I mean, but you know something Eric, it's childish. It's a Senator for God's sake. It's childish. It is. You know, we know you go on with peppermint patty and she's clueless. Yeah. And you go on with peppermint panting in and she views you as Chuck. Oh, Chuck. Oh, Chuck. I love you Chuck. I love you Chuck. Yeah. And you, and whatever. And so you believe you can say whatever

without again, this is another case where the Democrats cannot handle cross examination of

their opinion. Right. Because that's the reality about the military. That's why they exist to destroy things and kill people. And that's what he said he shouldn't be promoting that. Because that's what he exact's been promoting targets and being lethal. Yep. Killing the enemy. Well, you can't say what the military's actually there to do. We can't do that. That's so unprofessional. No, it's not. It's realistic. This is again, you know, he just wants the soft walk this through because it really is right out of

the DSA playbook. And then he made the case. And then the Tomahawk Mystical goes into that school

and was at ours and did it kill those children. There's no relation between the two. Right. Being lethal and targeting the military, the US military is not targeting the children and innocence. And that's the point. That's the perverted point he's trying to make. That's the lie he's attempting to promote. Exactly. He's trying to get there in the long race saying that if you talk about a military

“that's lethal and more efficient that that means you're going to target children. That's what he's”

trying to say. Yeah. Yes. God. I mean, he's he's clueless and he's a liar. Yeah. Or he's very clueless and doesn't know the purpose of the military. And I think he does. I think he does. We are right. I radio. Coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Hartley. It's right. I radio. We are what I radio. He's our cronion. I'm Gary McNamara. All right. I'm sorry. I just I just go crazy. When when when it just gets to be to the to the Empire State Building of stupidity

and the last one's Mark Kelly going headset. That's terrible. He's talking about how efficient and lethal our military is and that's wrong to do that. He shouldn't be doing that and talking about our military that way. It's an insult to the military. Shut up. Yeah. Yeah. It's. I mean, it's

“childish. Well, you know, such a bad argument. And here's the thing. Again, he's a liar, but he's also”

ignorant. He doesn't know how to express himself at all. That's good. I like that. That's true. He doesn't because you can be both at the same time. He's lying. He knows the purpose of the military, but he doesn't know how to express his own convictions. That's what makes him a weak radical. And I don't base it just on that. You know, one of the things that really you and I went, whoa, when he started talking was the interview he did with that blogger. And she was like, you know,

a ditch. I'm sorry. She was a ditch. He was a ditch. She was a ditch. Oh, I don't think there should be billionaires. Do you agree with me? Oh, yeah. I can see your point. There really shouldn't be billionaires. Shut up. Yeah. Yeah. God. I mean, we're dealing with people with kindergarten mentality. No, that's that's it. I've heard a lot of that by the way. I've seen a lot of that on some podcast that just pop up randomly on on YouTube and I'm like, okay, I'll bite, you know, and I really shouldn't

because I know what's coming. You know, and it's like, well, they're all trying to control us and they're all trying to do this and they're all trying to do that and the big corporations are in on it. And so it's a bit more blah blah blah. And so the solution should be the ultimate monopoly

to anybody anymore. Right. And by the way, these are individuals that two of these individuals

“are making, I know, millions of dollars a year themselves and I'm thinking, wow, you're just”

throwing everything out, baby and bathwater all of it. You know, I just wait to go populace. You know,

it's just maddening sometimes.

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