09-01-26 Part One - GOP And Life After Trump

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“out of my head, but I believe it or not. George is in dead home. Every time I hear the whole ballroom”

thing in the Supreme Court in the ballroom, so I can think of his that episode of Seinfeld. By the way, somebody wrote me the other day and just said, they complimented me, they was about me and he says, Gary, you somehow have found a way on everything in the show to somehow relate it to a Seinfeld episode. Well, it's you have related yourself to Seinfeld completely. I'm like, well, I think I show. Our show is demonstrates the brilliance.

If you and I wanted to teach one of those weird college classes, you know, like the science or the psychology of Seinfeldism or whatever, you know, whatever, do you mean one of those courses that have really destroyed helped destroy college. Exactly. The type of course that stands behind the reason as to why. Right. No one wants to go to college, but still I would have fun teaching because you go back to all those episodes and then I would have to include certain episodes

in comedians getting in cars getting coffee because and I said that yesterday there were a couple of things, you know, and we were talking about the CBC and you know, didn't want to call the 9/11

“terrorists and the whole thing. And I remember the episode with Bill Mark, we're toward the end,”

he was kind of ramping on, you know, we're walking on eggshells with these extremists with these

terrorists and I don't know why we're afraid to say to call it what it is, basically I'm paraphrasing

and he, you know, had that rant and then the episode kind of faded out. And and there are other conversations where like Zach Gallifonakis, we talked about, you know, well, when I after I did the hangover because some, they were in a coffee shop. Someone took a picture standing over in the corner of them with their own phone and he was like, oh, I don't feel comfortable with that, blah, blah, blah, you know, my privacy and chair is like, what you're sitting in a coffee shop, but he goes,

yeah, but after we, you know, it really ramped up after I did the movie The Hangover because come on, it goes, we're, we're doing this and then there was, you know, he's like, you know,

get over it basically and then Larry David, they're sitting there eating pancakes and Larry David

goes, you know, I really like this writer from Larry David, people don't know one of the other creators and writers of Sintel, the Siri, the comedy series that you have sick on. But he says, you know, this, this writer at the New York Times and, you know, I have so much respect for him, Jerry's like, why? Why? What do you, you know, why, why do you just hand them this credibility? And I just thought, you know, there are so many things and it, you know, which by the way makes sense

because that's kind of the basis for Sintel the series was his comedy, but also his approach to observation, you know, the one thing you said, where, you know, basically it's the Hollywood people talking about, you know, having to be a therapist and how it is and handling success and everything else. That's another world for me. Yeah, you know, it's, it's funny because people said, you know, you seem to have some success in this business, how do you handle it? I go, I, I, I don't,

what I learned to handle was failure. Failure was tough. Success has been no problems. Well, you know,

“you've got this saying, well, you have to learn how to say, no, you can't do everything. You have to”

pace yourself just like everything else, but the reason that those things come, those are basically when, in my opinion, this is how I view life. When you get to a certain level and there's so many of these demands, that's a first world problem. Yeah, right. You know, it's like, okay, no, you got to learn to handle it. I had been, I had been, I've said this before. My greatest motivator was fear. Yeah, fear not being able to do what I want to do and it wasn't, I watched a couple of documentaries

over the weekend about some, you know, a few rock stars that committed suicide and it, you know, they couldn't become the rock star that they wanted to become and they had this whole imagery

and I'm watching it going, okay, you had some mental problems because I never viewed anything except

I love the process of what I'm doing. I like doing this. Anything else doesn't really matter.

just being able to talk in front of a microphone and just, you know, create and, and do a show. Anything else that comes with it? People know you, it's, it's fine. Can it be a hassle?

Well, yeah, there's a million hassles I have. There's a hassle of the idiot that, that, you know,

is going 63 miles an hour and I go to pass him in the left-hand lane coming into work and he speeds up along with me and you keep speeding up and he keeps speeding up and it's like, stop it! Now,

“that's something that, but I'm able to handle that. That's why I bought a fast truck. I made,”

good luck. I made, I mean, if I'm able to handle that, anything else that comes from, you know, minor success that I have had in, you know, in whatever I've chosen to do, anything that comes along because of that is really, really minor. It's like, oh, it's just so tough. People, people, new primary doctor, he knew who I was. You know, it's like, I can't believe this. I'm going to

have to deal with this now. I'm going to have a, I mean, I'm kidding. I mean, right, I could care,

I could care less, you know, because questions about, and it's, my doctor, and what I love is people that ask the questions that are really cool, which are like, how do you do this and how do you do this and how do you prepare and how do you do it every day? And those are the questions I really like.

“I mean, those are the questions I would ask anybody that is in any type of business. It's those”

probing questions and how do you do that? When this happens, and that's it. It's not necessarily, it's not like the fame thing. It's the, it's the, what you do thing. It's the, oh, okay, well, and yeah, I had this great experience and people aren't going to believe this, but it was on Facebook

marketplace because most experience is a Facebook marketplace. Actually, I had to, and they were both

fine, but I don't, I don't do that usually. I had a couple things, you know, we're, we're trying to pare down what we have in the house, make, make a little room. My wife doesn't know, I'm making room for another guitar. So I sold one of my guitars. I ended up selling it to a working musician who we've had contacts and, and, and common friends for the better part of 40 years, it turned out.

“And we had an hour-long conversation when he came to the house to, you know, try the guitar”

play it and pick it up. And he, you know, he was in a band in the 90s that sold over 500,000 records and he's just very knowledgeable. And that's where I wanted that guitar as one of my special guitars. I didn't play enough, but I wanted it. I was really hoping it would end up somewhere where it belonged and it did. And Kirk is just a great guy, but we got into talking about, you know, the political thing and how the political thing got on the music because he had

worked with a number of musicians, a billboard from Black Sabbath. He's worked with, you know, a number of musicians over the years that are recognizable at least in the genre that I was in. And he, you know, talked about the politics of the music industry, right? And how, you know, and it's the same kind of thing. It's the control. It's the power. It's, you know, everything. And he said, I'm happy playing where I'm playing now. He goes, I had that one run, you know, that

taught me that I, I wasn't in control. And he said, it was, you know, that's the kind of thing that you see in DC, where you think, you know, you're going to go into power, you're going to, you know, rise to power. And then I'll suddenly realize you're not in control at all. And, you know, and it was a great conversation. And it was just, I mean, we couldn't stop talking is, this girlfriend was hoping we would wind it up, but we were standing there for an hour in my kitchen

to talk, talking all of this stuff, which, and it's kind of the similar thing, you know, there, it's, you know, I, I was intrigued by what he did because I knew so many people that he played with and, and he was intrigued by what I did. Well, but, but what you, what you brought up is what you deal with when you're in that business or, and you've been in both businesses or this business, which is your individual goals and what you think will make you a success versus the people

that you may have signed a contract with as your management or your record company or your management in any type of media. Oh, do they, do they see it the same way? And how do you get that autonomy to be able to create? And that's, that's it. And I was talking to my doctor about that, you know, about that, you know, today and said, yeah, really, I got to the show and, you know, and when we

that we're with now Westwood one, even before that, though, even before it, that was where we started getting, it's where they just said, just go do what you do, go do what you do, go do what you do, you know what you're doing, go do what you do, and I said, and so that's one of the reasons I don't want to quit. It wasn't the celebrity stuff at all. It was like, how did the creative control? How do you get the creative control? How do you do that? Curt went that up about music.

“And that's what I mean, yeah, and that was part of the thing that's not meant to be sort of,”

you know, they had these great things and the record companies would come in and try to change them in this way. And then that album was in a success. I'm like, well, I've been, not in the same way,

but think about that your music, but then I'll always sudden it's your opinion. Luckily,

I only had one manager ever. There might have been a little bit of pressure, but it never really, they never said, you know, only one person ever said, I don't like your opinion on something, and it was a single owner. It wasn't a liberal company. And we've been, you know, we work for Disney, you know, Disney really led us, Disney led us alone. Right. And Disney was was, I don't know if they are still what they have the situation is, but they were as liberals who can get. And they let us

alone. And so we used to get that all the time. I mean, the audience even recognizes that as do probably listeners to rock bands ago, why did you go in this direction? Okay, they're going the corporate router, whatever. And we used to get, well, do you guys get your talking points and does the company tell you what to do? And when you tell them, no, we actually do what we want to do. You know, nobody approves what you do? No, nobody approves what we do. Come on, you work for a major

corporation. Look, I'm as shocked as you are that they come to us and say, guys, Gary and Eric,

“go say what you want on the radio. We think we can make money on it. What are you out of your mind?”

Well, back in the day when Kirk and I both, you know, I guess maybe you could say we're in our heyday as musicians or I didn't have a heyday. I had a day. But you didn't show in a barn. So that's right. So so there was, you know, this, this, but back during that era, you know, you had a bunch of older guys that basically said, I see all the kids coming to the clubs for this band, let's sign this band. You know, I, I looked at the band. I heard something, you know, Rick Rubin, the producer.

He's not an engineer. He never touches a board. He's not a musician. He doesn't play anything.

Blaze on a couch. He lays on a couch. He's barefoot. He looks like a guru. They call him a guru. All he does is he listens. He knows what he hears. You know, yeah, he convinced really had to convince Johnny Cash to do the nine, nine inch nail song hurt. I mean, he had to call him over and over again and finally do put together a demo as to kind of the pace of the song, the cadence of the song, of what it would be for Johnny's version. And then Johnny finally did it.

And it was masterpiece. It was, it, it, it stole that song from Trent Resner and nine inch nails. But the point is is that, you know, you get all, if you've got the right said back then when you had the right situation to let an artist be creative. And I think, by the way, it's more important now for any of spoken word content that's out there, whether it's podcasts or radio, I think it's

“more important now that you have to find the creative people. But you also have to let them be creative”

because if you're going to just rain them in, and kind of, you know, degrade that creativity, you're not going to get the best out of them. And it's, it's pretty, it's the most competition we've ever been in in our industry right now because of everything, streaming to all of it. So you and I are super grateful every day that our audience seeks us out. I mean, that's, we're in a, we're in a great place and very fortunate to be here. And this all started because I

was singing the George distanza song because of the Supreme Court and the ballroom decision. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we've been, uh, George isn't at home. And so we'll get to that because we took yesterday about to Kimberly Strossel's column in the Wall Street Journal where she was saying the media is the one that's promoting this law fair, the media knows that, you know, they, they, they probably do understand. I don't know if they do. But she was saying they probably

do understand, you know, the legalities in this, but they never talk about the legalities. They set a

false promise of the liberal politicians will set. Yeah. Because if you look at this Supreme Court decision on the ballroom, believe it or not, I mean, it's really simple. Yeah. And if you understand standing, you know why it didn't go anywhere. And the concern is not the five, the concern would be Roberts joining the three liberal justices again. It doesn't, there was no standing here. You could even get, they never got to the, uh, minutia of the legalities because they said

they're and said, well, a person walking by if they work for some particular institution, if they

to the specifics of whether he could legally do it or not because the people find filing suits

“didn't, or the woman filing suit basically said, I walk by and I don't like how it looks. So I'm”

filing a federal suit. Anybody who understands the federal government. This is what's, you know, the five four, that should have been one of the nine zips. Yeah. Right. And, and for, you know, Roberts to sit there and, and say, well, this destroys the separation of powers. But the

hell you're talking about, you first got to get it to court. We're first got to have a legal case

that that has standing. You can't sit there and say, we're just going to throw standing out to window for this particular case. Right. And, and go to the merits of it, we're, we're going to just reject what the federal courts actually are supposed to look at and have looked at. And the president had looked at for the longest time and just say, well, he's Trump. We don't like it. He

“can't do it. When others have done the exact same thing. Right. Exactly. That was just, I just found”

that, you know, I just, just shook my head on that because it was just, it's, it's so stupid. But so simple. You know, really, there was, there was, you didn't have standing. You can't do it. And if you

pay attention to, but if you have a population that doesn't even understand the three branches of

government, yeah, people believe people, they don't, they don't, they don't read, you know, we go through these cases. We actually tell you what the legalities are of it. We've sat there and said, and I've sat there and said, these are the legalities of it. This is the president. And I'll even say, I disagree with the president. And here's why, but we'll point out why, in case, you know, whether, whether to actually fit the president or not, even if it's different than our own opinions. Right. We are right, I

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and I'm Gary McNamara. Really interesting. I just was reading this from Dan McLaughlin from National Review on the whole ballroom this Supreme Court decision on it. It said it looks like the right decision that was made. The DC court found that the plaintiff, the National Trust for Historic Preservation in the United States, had standing to sue based upon aesthetic injury to one of its members. As the court describes that injury, the trust relies on the declaration

from a single one of its members, Allison Hoaglin. Hoaglin says that she lives in Washington, DC and expects to visit the neighborhood around the White House about once a month. She asserts that having to view the finished ballroom, the government is constructing would cause her to suffer injuries to her aesthetic, cultural, and historical interest because she finds the scale height and massing of the government's design distasteful. Then he writes, if you're familiar

only with only in a general sense of how the law of standing works and it roots in common law,

doctrines of injury, your first instinct as a normal sane person would probably be,

this is a preposterous basis to file a federal lawsuit in the immortal words of the dude in the Big Lebowski. That's just like Europeanian man. , Big Time is overrated nights are where it's at, with Gary and Eric on Red Eye Radio. And he is our crony and I'm Gary Mack, Amara. Hmm, maybe the dumbest saying a lawyer's ever said

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I was like, oh, wow, that's right. The trial was going on. The murder trial of

Topox Shakur. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. In 1996, uh, uh, Dwayne Davis found guilty of first degree murder,

24 prosecution witnesses three defense witnesses. The, some of the, the, the, the, the, the, the major testimony against him was him. He has constantly said he was in the car. His defense

“attorney said, I said, they're saying when you need to shut up for appeal. His defense attorney”

argued that no evidence beyond his own statements placed him in Las Vegas or in the car. Well, your own statements are pretty huge. That's a tough thing to say. You know, other than the admission that he did it, there's no evidence that he did it. You know, I mean, it wasn't, it's lawyer wasn't

claiming like false confession. That's not what he was saying. It's, it's, it's, it's first of all,

it's, it's, it's weird. It's kind of bizarre after all these years, you know, for this to finally get to this point of the trial. I mean, because I'm thinking to myself, well, I'm most young people don't don't really know. I mean, they know they don't likely know the, you know, if they're into hip-hop or whatever, or even not, if they're into anything, anything pop culture, they're aware of two-pock, but they don't really remember when this thing went down. Well, you,

“all you have to do is simply put it this way. In 1973, if there was a trial for a murder from”

1943, everybody, whatever. Yeah, it's right. We've got a jury wearing bellbombs. You know what I mean? It's so. In 1943, well, that didn't even know what bellbombs were. No, no, that's, that's it. It's so much time has gone on. You know, and, and I think that's, I'm just curious about the process itself. Obviously, you know, new information brings about new evidence, you know, quite often.

Some of the things, in fact, I had a friend whose sister was killed. The murder was profile on the discovery channel years ago, and when they finally found her killer. And in fact, that's

“how I knew that's how I learned they had found her killer. But they talked about the DNA”

evidence now that, you know, that they could use. They could take the evidence and through the technology with DNA, they, they really narrowed it down and, and they finally found the killer.

But they're not always cases aren't always that simple. And back then, there were so many

players in terms of, uh, gangs and, and what was going on surrounding the murder of two poxicure, that it was, it was really hard to know. Plus, quite frankly, you're not going to get a lot of people to talk. But just the way it is. You know, and or you just don't have a lot of witnesses. And the way it went down,

And they got to have a bunch of witnesses. It's just got to be a ton of evidence here.

“And it took this long to get to this point.”

Yeah, I just thought it was interesting though, with the lawyer said it was like, wow. All right. Yeah. You're ready. All right. Let's hit all the stuff. All right. All right. No matter what you think about the president's oil deal with Venezuela, whether the Pentagon or the United States should be taking Penny Warren's equity into a foreign company. And it was interesting because you didn't hear a lot of Republicans and Congress talk about it yesterday. No, you didn't hear a lot of Republicans

jumping on on on board because there is a certain uncomfortable feeling in with Republicans.

When you start talking about the Pentagon is going to control the distribution of oil from from Venezuela. And we'll be the actual department that has equity. And a lot of lot of legal people are saying we have no idea whether this is even legal or not.

“But the fact is it's not going to have the immediate impact.”

It's not going to fill the the oil reserve in Trump's term. No, no. It may not, it may not fill have the oil to fill it for 10 years. Right. This is all about potential. It's not oil that's

ready to go. So the president was out there saying, if he's trying to promote the fact that

we're going to fill these strategic reserve when this oil is ready, we have a problem with defense in this country because that thing needs to be filled up ASAP. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's lowest level since 1980. There's no reason to have it with the money. You know, when you see that there's a legit question here. And it's not because because I agree that national defense is the number one responsibility of the federal government. Number two,

even though you look at how big our national defense bill is, it's still smaller compared to the overall budget that it's been probably since World War II. Yeah. And it keeps going down as a percentage. We still spent a lot, but it's in entitlements. Oh, and I had to do it again over the weekend. They got to stop this. They keep saying that social security is an entitlement. It's not an entitlement. This comes up. I've been talking about this one for two, two decades, three decades.

I may be since the two parks you're currently murder because it still comes up on social media and all the people respond going, you're right. It's not an entitlement. It's not an entitlement. You paid and therefore you're entitled to it. So it's not an entitlement. Yeah. It's not an entitlement because I'm entitled to get it. And this is where you say people don't even think anymore. They don't even think. Yeah. And I had to explain to the person,

no, no, it's an entitlement because you put into it. When they call welfare an entitlement program, it should not be called an entitlement program. That's where the mistake is. Yeah. And they also well ended it in with the idea of the entitlement mentality. Right. It's built for years. And we've been talking about this for decades. That it's a difference. If you pay into it, then you are entitled to the benefits of it. Right. And that's the

entire concept of it. But when, but the entitlement programs are just, you know,

“dwarfing everything else in the federal, in the federal budget. So yeah, we, I believe they need to”

do more. But when, you know, you look at the fact that he's asking for one and a half trillion, and not going to get that amount. And all likelihood. But he's asking for that. And then you just say, what are we doing with all of them? But how are we allocating the money? How come you would, you would think, frankly, a lot of people were surprised. You know, when they start talking about, you know, you hear the leaks that are coming down that, you know, we're not prepared for a long war in a

ran. Why not with the money that we spend? What are we spending it on? And can you get serious people in Congress actually to look at the Pentagon and say, if your current procurement process is screwed up, where we're focusing is screwed up. We shouldn't be doing this. We shouldn't be doing that. Because you have such a reactionary, a political table right now. Yeah. Everything is reactionary,

including people in Congress. And that's to me, the scary part. Where are the people that are

“actually in the government trying to get things actually done? Yeah. Well, it's been this slow roll.”

And this is part of the great concern of the Republicans becoming less conservative and moving further left, that over the years, you know, there's been this whittling away of the National Defense Budget, you know, and there has to be a priority. It's the number one roll of the federal government. There has to be a priority here. And if we got into the situation in Iran, again, and there is a concern on inventory, defense inventory at this point, you know,

saw something from Politico, and it's Politico. But basically, the Republicans have become

“really disenchanted with Trump's, I think they used the word blunder on Iran.”

You know, and my concern, my overall concern would be, and we talked about the messaging, have one message. We are, we are doing everything every day to keep them from getting nuclear weapons. We have accomplished a lot. We're going to stay on that mission. That's going to be our mission. We're not going further than that on a day-to-day. We're not going to fill you in on

day-to-day missions and what's going on. We're doing that, that will be our goal until we believe

we've reached it and you believe it or that. But aside from that, you know, there is the concern

“for, again, what we have available to us. So if, you know, the, if you have Republican rank and”

file and Republicans in power on Capitol Hill that are becoming disenchanted with this whole thing, you know, my concern would be, all right, we go back to Bush and Afghanistan or Iraq or whatever, the exit strategy. Well, it's not, in this case, wasn't necessarily exit strategy. It was regime change has to be a part of this, and you know it, and they've said from the beginning, oh, this isn't about regime change. Well, you killed the eye, it's all up.

You're started by killing the eye at all and different levels in a significant portion of the level. Yeah, and so government. And so, yeah, it's about regime change. But it's also about the messaging. And, and then you get the story that comes out that says, all right, work on to run in short. How do you get from beginning that mission to, if that was accurate and true, to being short on defense mechanisms and and equipment, I, again, I hope that's

not the case. I hope that's not true. But it either way, if you're not accomplishing the mission, if you don't accomplish this mission, it is going to be seen by history as a wonder. And it could have an impact here in a couple of months, two months and a few days for the midterms. That's not good. We are Red Eye Radio. We are Red Eye Radio, and he is our Crony and I'm hearing McNamara. So it was really

interesting because there wasn't really a lot. I mean, after all the, the, the, the hype of the Venezuela deal, sort of died yesterday. Yeah, it wasn't even much analysis. Because there's not much to analyze because you don't know, you know, I saw in the Wall Street Journal, the one story where one analyst was saying, hey, look, this, this could be on, you know, on an SPR level, this could be huge, especially with the, you know, the, the big shale boom of what we have here in the states.

But there, but what you don't know is what we said yesterday, who's going to be in control of Venezuela, but a time this thing gets to the market? Yeah, but for the SPR, you're talking at least

that the oil you would need. Yeah, that's where that's where it was going. That's that's the second part of

“what I just said. And that is, who's going to be in control then? What are the market prices going to be?”

And how do you get it from the ground? I wasn't into the SPR. I wasn't hitting what you were saying, I was hitting what he was saying. Right, right, right. Yeah, and that's yeah, yeah, we were making the same point, basically. Yes. Out to the our news is drunk you by how product is it? How products.com? This is Ridae Radio on Westwood One. Now, it's Ridae Radio, Gary McNamara, and Eric Hurley talk about everything from

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All the cross America, we are Ridae Radio. He is Ridae and I'm Gary McNamara. Well, come in good morning. Thanks so much for being here this morning. All right, we talk a lot about, you know, the Democrats and where they're going in in November. And it's pretty easy. I mean, because they've told you what they're about and it's insanity. But insanity in the polls, if the polls are correct, insanity is doing a lot better than people would think they're doing.

So what are the Republicans thinking right now? You mentioned the article in Politico. This one was in the hill.com. All right, GOP soul searching for life after Trump is ramping up. Republicans say their party will need to do a lot of soul searching to find its direction before President Trump leaves office in 2029, something that is coming into sharp or focus with the approaching midterm election and the realization that Trump will soon become a lame duck.

“GOP strategist and political experts. And that's what what they're saying is he's going to”

lose one of the houses. Right. Yeah. GOP strategists and political experts say the discussion about what comes next would begin to ramp up considerably after the November election. It's a discussion likely to be impacting and I can't then it stops there. It didn't print. There will be serious debate about the policy and about the direction of what the party is said then Weber, a GOP strategist and former member of the House GOP leadership. The debate will

center on whether the Trump revolution on a host of issues such as trade will live on with the GOP. Weber said Republicans have embraced tariffs in recent years because they quote respect Donald Trump as an negotiator, not because even brace the concept of tariffs generally. By the way, that's BS. They have not embraced tariffs because they respect Donald Trump as an negotiator. They embraced tariffs because it would have been politically damaging because Trump controlled

the narrative on that. Right. He just controlled it on it, especially in the beginning. When it all came and we had warned, we had warned the administration about it. We had talked about prices over and over again to the Republicans and Republicans seem even now to have no concern about prices whatsoever. In fact, Trump's been out there saying, you know, we aren't too willing to pay a little bit more to take out a ran or whatever. Might have been able to sell that

at another time. You can't sell that now. No. Can't sell that to independence. You've got to get

“independence. You're trying to, I think, you know, keep your base going, but your base doesn't matter.”

It's what independence want. House Republicans, he said House Republicans, excuse me. He said Republicans embrace Trump as a bold fighter who won't back down, but he said not everybody in the party is thrilled about some of the Trump's policy positions, including tariffs and federal meddling in the private sector. Uh-huh. It's something that we have said. You cannot stand up there. You cannot be JD vans and President Trump and stand up there and say we're against socialism

and we're against communism and then promote the federal government having equity and ownership in businesses. Yeah. No. And to point that out, people get angry at us. Sorry. Be angry at the people that are saying one thing and promoting the same thing. Well, they're criticizing one thing and promoting the exact same thing. As they point out in the in the Wall Street Journal,

basically the agreement announced Friday evening would transform the U.S. government from a broker

Yeah. We phrased it differently, but same thing. And that's the problem is, and then when you talk

about ownership and AI, I have an asterisk that I'm willing to put up on the AI thing. And the reason is is because AI is going to play a massive role in national defense. My concern there is how AI, when the government, you know, is using it for national defense, how it's going to be used in terms of monitoring the American people and privacy concerns and everything else that, you know, if AI decides it's going to break out of a sandbox and

start doing its own surveillance, that kind of thing. There's a lot of concerns there, but that's kind of the, you know, I won't say down the road. It's almost a different topic in that regard.

“But I'm willing to listen, you have to make the case. No one's made the case so far.”

But the people need to know exactly how AI is going to be used. I mean, there's,

so there's a lot of things, but ownership of government ownership of the business is not. No, it's not necessary. It's only contracts. Yeah. That's got nothing to do with what you're talking. It's, it's only contracts. But I'm willing to put an asterisk, asterisk there for someone to explain to me why ownership is better than a contract. Because I don't know that there's a power there or regulation. Yeah. Well, regulation, but what I mean is you're going to, you're going to,

they're going to use AI, the federal government is going to use AI as a part of national defense. The question is will it be a government proprietary AI or will it be one from the private sector?

“Will likely be one from the private sector? So we're talking about ownership.”

If you're saying we're going to fold us into national defense, well, why do you need ownership as opposed to a contract? When you have, in my, this is again, the GOP strategist. This is somebody that the GOP hires to tell them strategy, man, Weber. In my view, much of the appeal of Trump to the Republican Party is that he was able to rise the faithful against the movement to the radical left that we've experienced under Barack Obama, a senior Senate GOP aid

or requested anonymity to discuss the behind-the-scenes discussion about what comes after Trump's and the president will leave a massive void when he leaves the White House. Anybody that says

it's going to be a conversation is right. Donald Trump is Donald Trump. There will never be

another president like him, the aid said. I don't think the party knows what it wants yet. It's really hard for a lot of people to think about that. Donald Trump has been the leader of the Republican Party for a decade and that's a long time in politics. Some Republicans are baffled by Trump's escalation of the trade war with Canada. Again, the whole ownership thing, equity in companies, equity in foreign companies. We don't even know whether that's legal yet.

I haven't seen any type of legal briefs on that here. Are the Venezuela thing? Venezuela thing at the moment, but when you are, to give you an example, the whole thing on Lake America, Lake Ontario. The response, you didn't see a lot of response from members of Congress on it. What you saw was the influencers on social media and other political conservative, well, Republican pundits talk about the fact of

seeing how we got them, see how we got them, see how angry they are, see how they all jumped up and you know, and they named stuff. So we can name stuff. This is what the Republican Party. This is what they view when you think about the last six months. You tell me one thing that has been promoted by the, at the same time, laughed at and promoted as we got the left on this one. We got the left. We're showing them now and it's completely and totally meaningless.

Well, and that's it. It doesn't move a needle. It's not a motivator. It's not a motivator.

“Not a motivator to get independence. And it's a social media war. That's what it was. It's”

a social media war. Next present is going to come in. It'll be back to Lake Ontario again. What about the Gulf of, what are we call it? What was the Gulf of the Gulf of the Merrill? That's what I call it. Oh, I really amarrow. Yeah. Yeah. Gulf of the Merrill. Right. I think we should just call it Trump Gulf. Yeah, the Gulf of Trump. Yeah, because you know,

And it's like, well, beyond the Trump years, they're going to continue to call them, you know,

Trump RX and on prescriptions and prescription drugs. And are they going to continue to

“call it Trump savings? I mean, well, that's what it's called. It's still Obamacare. You guys may not”

want to call it. I did see this by the way in the response. And again, this is all just social media back and forward. It's not a needle mover for November or beyond. Well, but I saw this response and it was, or the story that said, the downloads for map quests have surge because they refuse to change the name of Lake Ontario. I'm like, really? Really? Well, when you're, when you're down to, we showed them, look at their response, you know, they're angry about it. Therefore, we've won.

When that's your political messaging in the second term of this president and that's what you're

looking at as a victory, you've got major problems. And it's not going to take it's not going to take independence away. And if I was a political consultant, this is what I would do. I voted for

“Trump three times. I wanted him to, I want him to succeed. I wanted him to succeed. I want him to”

succeed. I want the Republican Party to succeed. You know, well, you're, you're talking about the lesser of two evils. Maybe, but the, the big evil is Dr. Evil. Yes. It's really, really evil. I mean, it's actually evil. You may disagree on economic concepts with the Republicans or Trump, but the other side is bad soup crazy. Yeah. And so I don't want them to win. And so when Republicans and the president ignore prices, as if it doesn't matter, especially following what Biden did on that,

it's almost unforgivable politically. Well, and, but then, along with that, is the salt in the wound that are all of these little bandits, we're going to exempt over 200 food products. We're going to bring in for 90 days imported beef. Yeah. You know, I, I, we had

“some, we went and met some of my in laws for lunch and central taxes over the weekend. And”

they were telling us, they're all buying beef like directly, they're, they'll buy a half cow, have it processed and the whole thing comes out to about $5 a pound. I thought, well, $5 is about, oh, wait, you are saving money, because I was looking at Walmart prices like a pound of ground beef, $7 in 50 cents. So, you know, I thought to myself, you know, people kind of find their own way to, or make sacrifices with a lot of families. And if you're, if you're doing these band aids,

it's like, yeah, but you're, you're not helping, because it's, it's akin to what they did with the, the COVID stuff. Oh, well, we'll send you a money. We'll send you money. Now, there were some people, and we talked about them then that we're getting more money to stay home than they were and their job. But the, a lot of people that were getting money were going, well, you know,

if this doesn't do the trick, or the farmers, when we had tariffs, and the first term of Trump,

that we're saying, we don't want the government checks. What we want is the re-established trade routes. But we want the trade to get back to where it was. And, and so the thing is, when you throw in these band aids on top of not, you know, working on pricing, focusing on pricing and continuing with more tariffs, I mean, I don't know if we're going to have a trade partner in Canada, you know, for the rest of Trump's term. I don't know, I don't know where it's going. But this is,

you know, again, this is all part of people looking at this, because we look at it from outside walkville, right? We're not, you know, our listeners are very involved. They're very up to speed on everything that's going on. The average person comes home and says, oh, my gosh, you know, they've been working all day and they're looking at this going, you know, this is what we're doing. We're going, we're doing the back and forth. We're doing the, I don't like this guy. He doesn't

like me. And they don't care about the truth. They don't care about the details of it. They only care about what they're, I was going to say checkbook. Nobody has a checkbook anymore. But they're bank account actually shows. And what they have to spend at the store, what's left when it's spent. When the consultants for the Republican party and this article are saying that the Republican party is lost. They don't know where to go. That's because they have ignored the

conservatives of the party. Yeah. That's why. And the conservatives feel like they have no place to go.

liberal economics on tariffs. Yeah. That if you make things more expensive, you'll make a better

economy. Anybody who's gone through the debate on minimum wage, taxes, or anything knows that's not true. Any conservative knows it's not true. Now, you may do tariffs because somebody's involved the non fair trading practices. But with Trump, it got to be, I didn't like the conversation I had with

“her, remember that one. No, you know, you get a 10% more tariff. Right. We don't like your”

thing on this. We're going to use it here. And that's why the Supreme Court shut them down. I'm probably will shut them down again. If it ever gets to the point on the, you know, on the, on the new tariffs because Congress is the one that taxes and tariffs are taxes. When the president said it

really hurt him. When the president said that foreign countries pay it. Remember the blowback

we got from our listeners when we said, no, they don't. The consumer companies in the consumer in the United States pays the vast majority of the tariffs. And Secretary, that's not setting the same thing. He did what we were saying is own treasury secretary was saying you can't lie to conservatives about economics. You can't, and that's what that that's what the president did. You can't

“change the math. You can't change the dynamics of how an economy works because now what are we seeing?”

Well, they're writing checks to these importers because the importer paid the tax and, and then best of themselves even has to go further now and make excuses. But then at the same time as we know, okay, we're cutting, we're going to cut the 200 last December, 200 grocery products. So your prices will be cheaper because you care about having lower prices. So we're going to give you lower prices that we raised. So you admitted then that was the admission then with the beef. You admitted the

same thing there. We're going to make a deal to allow foreign beef to come in to lower prices to to lower prices, which will hurt the American jobs and the American beef manufacturers because they went nuts. And then on oil, he says we're going to go and we're going to become part owner of a foreign oil company in a foreign country. We're going to get that oil at below market prices.

“Why aren't you boosting the American oil? What do you actually believe in economics? That's why”

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So, when you look at this article on the hill.com about where the Republican party is going, I think probably the most significant thing is economic. That's where you've split with conservatives here. Everything from J.D. Vance and the President promoting equity and corporations and ownership and corporations covering every side of tariffs, no consistency at all on that. Promising more than you can deliver and then the

member I'm of understanding just killed him with his base. Yeah, yeah, Iran. He's more in the right

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and some of the challenges they face, I look at the, again, at the whole Lake Ontario, Lake America thing. And, you know, I don't know how many times I saw on social media. Isn't this what you voted for? This is what I voted for. You voted for the symbolic changing of an era-coi Indian name that has absolutely nothing to do with Canada before Canada even existed. It was called Ontario. And because somebody has a response, you say, we've won because that person responded

in a negative way to that, you're a Republican. The party that we thought was of conservative

substance and you feel that that is an incredible victory. Oh, I remember the poll. I remember

the poll. It showed the concerns of Republicans and conservatives. Number one, the border, close second, the economy. Number three, Lake Ontario. Yeah. I mean, it just, it got, what it was and, and you had some Republicans, come on and say, it's just stupid. It's just stupid. But what I saw and I think it was even on Newsmax are like, well, look at all the things that the Democrats changed the names of, which we thought was stupid. Yeah. Yeah, which we thought was wrong. All right,

so we hate like them. But, but to sit there and claim that the major victory that you've received over the last few months is that the president threw an executive order, not through legislation, not through convincing people that what he wishes to do is right. But through an executive order, symbolically changes a name that has nothing to do with the country that he is insulting. Right. And you view that as a victory shows you where a significant portion of the Republican party is today.

Yeah, that that was such a victory. But I was, I was laughing the whole weekend. You see, I voted for this. Isn't this what? This is exactly what I voted for. Wow. Yeah. How the Republican party has fallen from a party of conservative substance in economics and in the credibility of how economics works. If you would told me in the months

after the 24 election and into the first few months of president Trump's second term that we'd be

here by the midterm, I would have told you you're smoking weed. Well, it's the same thing we said about the memorandum of understanding. If the president had said we're going to go to war and the memorandum

“of understand, that's why that was such a horrible thing. And thank God that one away. And thank God”

they seem to be more on the track of economic pressure because that was that that killed the president's credibility with the significant portion of his base. They'd still vote from like I would over the

matter whether the Republican party has me or you because the the the other choice is completely totally unacceptable. Independence will vote for that other choice. And you're seeing it, you know, I look at one of the projects with the Republican party. Once you chose, look at the state of

“Texas, once you chose Paxton, you should be supporting him. Right. Well, he's lazy. Well, I don't care.”

It's what the party wants. You support him with money. You saw a Kennedy. Now we're not going to give

many money. Yeah. Well, the president may he's got 350 million dollars or whatever it is for himself,

which he doesn't need. He can spend it, you know, he can give it to now that's not going to happen probably because even though he endorses him, he's not going to spend money on him because it's his money. If that's in any reality true, well, then you ought to be defeated. Well, it's, are you in it to win it or not? And I'm not a huge fan of Paxton. Yeah, if again, I'm not a huge fan at all. Well, and so, and I don't think he's the best candidate, but that's who your party chose. And, and you

look at Corne. You know, Slapie Corne was becoming more and more the new Susan Collins. Even though 95% of the time he was voting for Trump, the hesitation and the lack of conviction was growing. And I didn't want that to, I didn't want that to be the future. Well, of my representation. I guess my point on all this is it's not a party of ideology anymore.

“And I believe so. It is in part. There's still that part of that belief. But it's not as much of a”

party as ideology and belief and core values. It's turning into tribal. It's turning into tribal and little symbolic victories. Oh, look at the response we got from this person in Canada who says, "We're going to call it Lake Ontario. We win. We win. We win. We win. My God. That's where the Republican Party is now that the president with, you know, can just, you know, executive order. He can change a name in the maps after, you know, the United States government has to abide by that.

They view that as this incredible victory that, you know, this shows that America now

is supreme and the Republican part. My God, what the hell happened to the Republican party? Yeah. What the hell happened? Well, it's been, you know, it's been slowly moving. That direction. We, you know, you know, over the years. And I guess it was inevitable. I was hoping it would happen after I retired 20 years from now. 30 years from now. That we get to that. I won't, I don't know if it's a threshold or not,

because I don't know how much further left they can go. It might be a lot more further left. Yeah. It could be, you know, but I don't see, you know, I, I look out there and, and you say, who is the conservative leader when you look at for, for president out there? Certainly with JD Vance's and the problems he has, which is also the belief. Oh, my gosh. You know, again in government involvement in the economy, where he, you know, where he agrees

with Trump on the equity and in AI and everything else and large corporations. When you see the populism, you know, the liberal populism of a, like a, a, a, a Josh Hawley. You know,

“I think the only thing that kept that member, because Trump endorsed it for a short time,”

the 10% on credit card rates, right? Why didn't Trump go along with that? Why didn't that? Why didn't Republicans jump on it? Because people are using their credit, they've been using their credit to keep the economy going. If you make it 10%, you're going to have credit card companies cancel

20 million credit cards. Yeah. They're afraid it'll hurt the economy. Right. But they're out there

saying price controls are good for credit. Yeah. Unless it affects people purchasing, which, of course, it will. Why? Because you can't control, you can manipulate an economy. You cannot control economics, which is how people respond to incentive. And for some reason, the room, and we dealt with this in 2016, where people said we don't understand, Trump is a business person, he can run the economy. No, he can't stop it. Well, he can't. No,

there's not any person, one person who can manage the U.S. economy to success. Unless you talk about

which the president has done in the past with regulations. And he is solely responsible. It shows he does understand economics. Why he doesn't have other areas. I don't know

because you can never get a president to tell you what they believe in economics. You couldn't

get Obama to do it. You couldn't get Bush to do it. You certainly can't get Trump to do it. As some will tell me, how do you think the whole thing works? You know more about how we believe how economics works than any president in my lifetime. Yeah. And even Reagan.

“Because remember, it was Reagan. It was very hesitant about lowering taxes the way he did. It was”

Jack Camp. That really was the one who pushed him over. And he was very wary of that. Right. Yeah. And so, you know, you look at it and it's like, wow. You know, that the Republican party is

lost according to this article and the people inside, they don't know where to go. I understand why.

When you abandon the things, the values that you have held and the reality of economics. When you say to hell with it, we're just going to pretend other things work. This is what's going to happen to your party. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. This is where it goes. We're going to be involved like Democrat. Let's do. Hey, pretend economics is working for them. Let's do pretend economics ourselves. Well, and that's the thing, you know, it gets back to the populace, what the populace of

“and saying for decades, really. And that is, well, the two parties, there's no difference.”

More and more, I mean, there, there are, you break it down. There are real differences. Well, because the Democrat party has moved way further left than the Republican party. I don't know, the Republican party from where they were, okay, not Democrats have moved further left because they've gone. They moved further left. You can't get more left there. They're sanity. The Republicans have a few more steps to go to meet the DSA level. Well, you know, something, the Democrats have actually

moved so far left. They've now viewed to what was viewed as the far right anti-Semitism, racism of identity politics, misogyny. Yeah. So the stereotype of what the far right is is what the far left has now become. Yes. They've embraced the insane left and the insane right at the same time. Yes. Yeah. And it's, you know, it is a, it's, it's not a conundrum because it's easy to figure out. This is not a situation where you don't know what to do. True conservatives know what to do

is, is there the political will to do so? Well, and the political will and how many Republicans who are running for and eventually get into office are actually true conservatives. It wasn't too long ago. We did the head count. We got up to three quarters of one in the, you know, we were breaking it down based on issues. But if the party's going that direction, you know, you can have your freedom caucus all day long. But what's actually getting done in the end.

Well, they're going to update it. It's going to be the semi-freedom caucus. Yeah. The, the enous, and some freedoms caucus freedoms at times, cars. You know, because again, as you, as you move further and further left, you start entertaining the idea of, all right, we're going to, we're going to change this. You know, the president with this health initiative

on basically setting up a government prescription thing, the Trump RX, and that kind of thing,

and other initiatives. Those are, you know, it's, if you're saying, all right, we're going to pay direct. We're not going to pay the middleman. We're not going to pay, you know, these, all these pharmacy kickback industries. We're not going to pay any of that. We're going to pay direct basically so that the consumer gets, if you're going to spend government money, the consumer gets the benefit of that. Okay. You get people's ears with something like that, but it really didn't make

a lot of noise yesterday. Fox News was the only one that had it. It doesn't make noise until it affects

“people in their daily. That's, that's the thing. I don't know. Well, and you have to be at the point”

of truly rolling it out. Yeah. Yep. So until you're at that point, you don't get the benefit.

Gary McNamara.

We are in our video. He's our currently and I'm Gary McNamara. Listen, I wrote a

“issue, guys, keep saying that you don't know what happened to the Republican party. I believe the”

future as a Republican party is JD events or Ramaswami. They're both friends, both businessmen,

so it might be both of them. We never said we did not know what happened to the Republican party.

“In fact, if I talked about how we've been talking about them going left for years or 20 years,”

yeah, exactly. That's actually the whole point that we've been making. And Ramaswami disagrees

with what JD fans I'm concerned to tell you right now, what he's been talking about equity and ownership and companies, Ramaswami does not believe that. Right. This is Ridae Radio on Westwood One.