09-02-26 Part Two - Cruz and Capitalism

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Welcome. Will you point it at me? Just a minute. Yeah. I was just having a little point party here, just pointing, I just don't know.

Oh, by the way, we had played Ted Cruz last hour about socialism. Yeah. He also said no. He has no interest in being a Supreme Court justice. Oh, yeah.

He said, not just no, but hell no, look, he would make a great Supreme Court justice, but I think he can be used elsewhere.

“I think that's, and I don't -- here's my question.”

I don't think in terms of the law itself in the Constitution, it would ever be boring. So it would probably be boring sometimes. You know, there would be the cases would be intriguing all day long, right? You go back and forth, you have the hearings, and everything else, but I think probably coming from where he comes from, a Texas Senator former presidential candidate, you know, possible

to future presidential candidate, it's a different -- it's a totally different pace. Yeah. I would have no interest ever in being a Supreme Court justice. Because I just wouldn't want to write the opinion, I'd want to go on and promote the opinion.

Well, you can't do that. Well, you know, that's it. It's kind of -- that's where I think the boring part comes in. I could sit right the opinion, and mind would all start with, "Now listen, y'all." So it wouldn't be as smartly written as, "Look, some others."

And I know Supreme Court justice go out, and they do interviews, and they'll say, "Well, this is how I think and whatever."

But no, I'm used to doing it every day, and so I would have never when I -- well, I don't

have a legal degree, and so they'd never consider me. But I look at that, and I just -- I would have no interest in -- I would have no interest in being a politician, though. I didn't know. I didn't know.

I did buy the robe, just in case. I own a robe. Just in case they call me up. I have no college degree, forget -- forget legal degree. I'm not licensed to practice law, I never passed the bar.

I passed a couple of bars on the way to the house, but I don't pass the bar that you need to pass. And I don't know which one that is.

“But you have to have the robe, really not the same kind of thing.”

It is. It is. It's a robe. Wishing the women were around you. Oh, they are.

They just happen to all be related to me, and they're the ones giving me the orders. Yeah. So the whole thing, and I think such a great opportunity, Ted Cruz talking about socialism and going after the president in the nicest way, not the same, but the same, but by the definition of what he's doing, and then you had that other GOP strategist come out and

say he's the first socialist president, because he's taking equity and everybody in the Republican side is quiet, but that's why we brought it up yesterday. We said, "That's the issue for the presidency in 2028." It might not have anything to do right now with the midterms, but that's going to be it. That's why Cruz wants to run.

“That's why probably if DeSantis runs, he would want to run.”

If they want to swami one, they don't agree. And I really wonder whether it was JD Vance set it off. Right. I really wonder when he talked about the Milton Friedman thing and everything else, "Wow, we've gone past the Milton Friedman thing," and we said, "All Milton Friedman, I've

never talked about," that capitalism is actually the natural order of things.

It's how people relate to each other on a voluntary basis in the transaction of bartering, which came around Adam Smith said the same thing, which Milton Friedman was a student of, and we said it's where everything's done voluntarily. Socialism and Communism is an ideology about how people should organize an economy, a government should organize an economy, and force people to act in a certain way.

I just, I found this, I've never listened to his podcast before, but this is a gentleman

by the name of Camel Foster, it's Cameller, Camel Lee, whatever Foster, and he was on with Camel Hill, I mean, this is on CNN, and talking about the whole thing of the Talarico coming out and saying that capitalism and white supremacy and all that crap, and it's interesting, just saying, "You know, he's black," and he's talking about the fact that white supremacy thing is pure garbage when it comes to what capitalism is about.

Here we go. This one thing to not think capitalism isn't working ideally, it's another thing entirely to insist that it is oppressive, that it is bound up with white supremacy. I've always preferred, I've always preferred Adam Smith's description of capitalism as the natural system of liberty, the idea that people can own property, that they can exchange

it freely with one another for profit, that they can find ways to put their resources to good use those private property, and profit in a way that is actually beneficial to everyone else, that there can be gains from trade, that are mutually beneficial. These are foundational ideas that have created more wealth than any other system in human history.

That is what capitalism is about. That is not quite so promising. Work that way. Has, I've just described the action always where I've actually just described the basic facts that we have.

Yes, the basic facts that we have. That's always where we are. Like, bring us an institution that is older than writing, it predates capitalism. The notion that white supremacy and all these other things are bound up with capitalism

“and intrinsic and fundamental weight is so absurd and laughable, how is it absurd?”

Barely needs to be defended. What do you mean, apparently?

Barely needs to be defended.

You actually have to articulate what the connection is, how are these two things the same? So here I'm talking about private property, the right to exchange and sell it, because what do you want? What does that have to do with white supremacy? What does that have to do with white supremacy?

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He does what is called the fifth column podcast. It is Kimel Foster. It is true. It is true. It is natural form of people buttering.

Well, when way, way back, to cavemen, I've got this, I've got that trade, let's trade, let's, let's, let's, let's barter, we both benefit. And on, on the Republican side, you know, Trump said at the other day when he's talking about Canada, can't have been ripping a soft because they, you know, you know, 68 billion dollars a year, whatever it is, which is ridiculous because it's Trump that was telling Canada just what a year and a half ago. Get this oil over here. Well, the reason we have a trade imbalance.

The reason they have a trade surplus is strictly the oil, which Trump wants. So, Trump wants the product from their, you know, from the country, but the biggest fallacy of how he views trade is he believes that you must have a good surplus.

“Yeah, you must, you must, you must, that that goes out, that getting the currency is more important than getting the product, because when you trade, that's what you're trading.”

Yeah, you know, and when you talk about, for example, remember when we talked about Mexico when they talked about trade back and forth, that a product will go back and forth. What was it like seven times? Six or seven times? Six or seven times to different manufacturing products before it comes back, you know, excuse me, manufacturing processes before it comes back to the United States. But in the final, in, in the final sale point, if we buy, if I buy a car from Japan, I get the car. They get electronic currency. Yeah. Why do they win? Right. I would think that because you and I've talked about whether it's whether, you know, this president or Biden or Obama or Bush or whoever, nobody, no president ever has to explain economically what their beliefs are.

They don't have to sit down and go, here's how I believe economics runs. Isn't that amazing that there is no, there's no requirement to demand from the public to say, how do you actually think an economy runs? What makes an economy run? What is economics? What's more amazing is that there hasn't been this effort to, and if you think about it, the Milton Friedman approach to for a president, if a president, think about doing the simple things Milton Friedman used to do, the economy of a pencil I think is beautiful.

And break it down and say, this is, this is how that works. You know, we go back to the Alan Grayson thing with the, you know, the great coupon look, look, it was the extending the tax cuts for the rich and look what they can do with all their tax savings and everything else. And we broke down the one, you know, we used the model was Milton Friedman economy of, Milton Friedman's economy of a pencil, we did the economy of a jar of great coupon, including the paint that goes on the jar, the metal that you make the lid with the contents that have to be formed all of the equipment that has to go into the mining and the farming, and then the transportation ultimately to the store shelves.

I'm not in a lettuce. Yeah, I am. I don't buy great coupon. I've never, I've never tasted great coupon. I actually have, I have. It was at a hotel. It was, it was purely, I guess, incidental. It was not, I didn't order it. It was that it was just actually came on the, it was on the table.

“I think the other example, and it's funny because this is how I know I'm, oh, because to me, this is like the fresh example, and it's over 30 years old.”

Yeah, remember when Clinton went into office and the Democrats did the yacht tax. Oh, yeah.

I forgot exactly what it was like a 10% surcharge, and anybody that buys a, you know, a yacht, you know, basically built in America would be put on the yacht manufacturers, and everybody stopped buying yachts in American bottom from overseas, and they had a rescind it. Yeah, and then those people that built the yachts were out of jobs. Yeah. So the yacht builders, the people that actually build the yachts were out of business, and the business went overseas, and they had a quickly go, how can't you see that coming?

I mean, because again, that's economics, which is how do people respond to incentive and/or disincentives. Right. That's all. That's all economics is. Right. And you can take that and trade, you know, as reading about the whole bond markets, you know, about how, you know, the interest rates are going up. Through the Wall Street Journal, they go on. There's a little bit of panic. It was actually it shouldn't be panic. It's actually not yet. It could be said, but it's actually the correction that economics makes when you have irresponsible, you know, borrowing based on artificial low interest rates.

“It's eventually going to correct itself. Why? Because of the risk factor, you know, which is again incentive and/or disincentive. Everything is about that.”

And so it's a great opportunity, and somebody should be out there doing it. I mean, I don't know, maybe there's a ton of podcasts. I don't know, maybe, came out. Foster should be out there promoting it, because he seems like he did a pretty good job.

That was a very good job. Very good job, and I'll do it.

Yeah, I'll go on, Donna, you. I want presidents to, I want conservative presidents to do it. Exactly. Yeah. Great. Remember Reagan doing the, uh, Reagan, the records. Yeah. That should about the last time we really saw it in a big way. We are right. I radio brought to you by FPPF fuel power max surviving and thriving as an owner operator has just as much to do with managing costs as it does with generating revenue, understanding basic principles of operating costs can see the thousands of dollars.

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On capitalism, white supremacy and climate change, here we go. Yeah, and I'm so thankful that you asked this question and also thankful that young activists have really drawn the link between climate change and white supremacy and capitalism in our country.

“And I think only ending the ways that all three of those oppressive systems work together, are we going to be able to begin the process of dismantling them?”

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And he is here, Carlion, I'm Gary McNamara, download our Rotella Radio app today and you can listen when and where you choose. Yes, audio is coming out as we knew it would from the radicals running on the Democrats. Well, excuse me, the Democrats, the Democrat radicals running. Yeah, or we just can start calling them Democrats assume that they're real. I'll do L. Sayed. This was an unearthed video that came out the other day on the American dream. Are you ready? Okay, okay, here, here we go. All right.

See, contrary to what we're taught that we are the land of opportunity where anyone with a dollar and a dream can make it.

“In fact, two few people have that first dollar economic data shows us that if you want to achieve the American dream, well, you should move to Canada.”

There you go. By the way, don't read. He's reading that. Yeah, that's not unless he sounds like that. But first off, a dollar and a dream, I believe that's a lottery advertisement. Yeah, it sounds like it. And you were saying that during the break and I'm like, no, you're right. I think it's a lottery advert to a dollar and a dream.

And if that's your American dream, because I love these, I love the polls that don't define that don't define. For example, what is the American dream? Because there's a poll that was taken here in, I think we talked about it around 4th of July. It was a America 250 poll. Yeah, about only a third of the public field, the American dream. The belief that if you work hard, you'll get ahead.

We'll still still holds true today.

Have say that while the American dream once held true, which is not anymore, few only 15% say the American dream has never been true.

These findings are consistent with previous Wall Street Journal, NORC polls in which 31% of adults in 2025 and 34% in 2024 said the American dream still holds true. If you work hard, you'll get ahead. Well, you will. That actually is just a very basic principle on how it works. If you work, if you work hard, yeah. Now, it's a, what's the definition of work hard?

You know, because, you know, you see it all that, you're seeing it even more frequently now, Democrats coming out and saying, Well, our parents, all they had to do was work one job. That was home at 505 every day.

“Right, and yeah, it's like my father, I never forget. He's goes, what the hell are they talking about the good old days?”

Yeah. He goes, please, I was living in the good old days. I was working three jobs to support a family. Yeah, my dad, my dad always worked with me. He worked with me.

And this is in the 1950s when things were booming. They got married. My parents got married in the early 50s, which was one of the biggest boom time ever. But they wanted a family built, and the house, you know, while he was working at times,

who was always almost working the first 10, 15 years, like two jobs.

At times he was working three jobs, one full time and two part time jobs. Yeah. And, and at the same time when he was doing that at night, very late at night, helped build the foundation of our first house, which I don't think contractors would allow today. Or, or probably the city inspections wouldn't allow that.

Right. I'm going to build the basement and foundation and really help to do that. And then you guys can build the rest of it. Doesn't work the same way these days. No, no, it does not.

My wife's stepfather got arrested. So Curtis, back in 1979, worked as eight to five job as he was rebuilding his house after it was wiped out after a tour from a tornado. Yeah. He, he, he said he needed help on a couple of things. I think it was electrical.

“I think he helped, he got some help with plumbing.”

And then he got, he told me he got some help with lifting the materials up for the roofing, but he did the roofing himself.

And as boss was telling him, you can take six months off.

“We'll find something, you know, a way to get you, you know, to help you.”

It takes some time off to start egos now. I'll do it in the evening. The, the tornado happened on April 10th. This is 1979. And he worked throughout the summer to get this house built and did it mostly himself.

And, you know, the, you asked, that's the, that's the reason I chuckled when you asked. What's the definition of working hard? It really for a lot, for a lot of people, I don't know that it's even generational anymore. But for a lot of people, it's a way to minute. I can't work remotely.

Well, that's hard. I have to get dressed and get in my car. I have to brush my hair. I can't work in my pajamas. What?

Yes.

I have to go in to a place of employment.

I have to get there. You know, so I mean, the, the, the number one, that's not my definition of an American dream. The belief if you work hard, you'll get ahead.

“No, I mean, I believe that I would, but it's not just working hard.”

It's understanding where the opportunities are. It's the measuring all opportunities. Right. And, and then, you know, for, for what your skill set desire or, what your definition of successes, you know, when you talk about, you know,

when we talk about American dream or or success or anything else, success can be different levels. My brother before he passed had his house paid for. He retired at 62. How does house paid for?

How does the equal paid for? Had a lot of money in the bank? And that was his level of success. But that's not my American dream. My American dream nothing had to do with professional success.

No. It was. No. The, the, the American dream was to continue to be in a land where I'm free. No.

“It's, it's, it's, it's measuring all the opportunities.”

Right. That's that, that are out there. And also, it would be if, if you're going to have a dream, it would be maximizing those opportunities to whatever level of success.

And, and I, however, you've got to go to the level before, it's simply freedom. And what I do with that freedom is up to me to do that. But it's, we'll make in the same point. Yeah.

It's, exactly. I've just moving one step one step beyond, before that. Right. Which is, if you don't have to really going further in my American dream than you are. Yeah.

Yeah. If you don't have freedom, then it's tough to maximize all the opportunities that that you, that you, that you have. But with the freedom also comes the property rights. But if you decide that you are going to try to get a job and you're going to work

like crazy to work in, uh, uh, uh, you know, uh, D-E-I, uh, gender classification, basket weaving. You can work as hard as you want. You're probably not going to succeed or make a lot of money in that. Yeah.

But, so the, the point is it's freedom and what you decide to do with it. But it's, it's the freedom and I know it's like, it's like the stupid ones, you know, well, uh, let's find out who's who's happier. That's not what I, that's not how I judge. I don't judge happiness the same way you do.

Well, the people that are happier, the people that could take in care of completely. Well, that's not my definition of happy. My definition of happy is freedom. And I know, because I know that freedom will give me long-term happiness, even though I understand there will be periods of unhappiness and challenges in between.

I have a question. Yes. If weaving were a sport, it just, the best. Hear me out. The women's basket weaving association.

I should have said winter water with underwater. That's good weaving association. Would they eventually have to allow men? Well, I weren't men better basket weavers because of the dexterity of their fingers. I've know I'm making this crap up as I go along.

Yeah. I've never known any. We're trying to argue like summer pressure. Dennis Weaver was a pretty good male weaver. Yes.

That's all I got, but that's the whole point to when I go, what's the belief if you work hard? Because that's pretty subjective, isn't it? Is it my father's working hard? Right.

I'll tell you this. As much as I have a good work ethic,

it never approached my father's.

Well, I'll say, no, I'll say this.

And I worked a lot, but it'd be anybody.

“He, I tried to find jobs that I'd light and thank goodness.”

I'm not every job, but I tried to find jobs that I found tolerable. My father would do things that I just would not believe. We're tolerable. And he just worked his butt off doing it. Everywhere, not just in his profession.

Yeah. And his personal life, the things that he took care of. He could take care of at home the car that he wrinkled engines. Yeah. I mean, he would, well, the plumbing's gone.

I'm going to put a new line in.

He did things that I would never think of doing.

So his working hard was not just working at something. It was the ideas on the knowledge he had in his head. That was so expansive. He, no doubt was going to be a success because he could do almost anything. He wanted to do the first house that they bought.

My parents bought was in San Antonio for our friends in San Antonio over in the Adam's Hill area. And Rainbow Hills area. And so he decided the porch, the back porch was back patio was too small. So he was going to add on to it. And it was like, I'm like, you're doing one.

Why are you doing that? And then the other day, here I am, my indoor tool closet. I decided to organize it a little bit. It took me all of probably 45 minutes. Maybe, and half of that was me standing there thinking.

And then I came out of the closet. And I went down the hall and I was wondering why my family didn't celebrate my achievement. My, all I did is move a few things around it. And for a couple hours, I'm going, well, it's got to be coming. They're throwing me a surprise party because I did a lot of work on this, you know,

a little closet where I've just moved a few things around. Oh, my gosh, it looks great. And I stood there looking at it. I went back and opened the door and looked at it again.

And I'm wondering why my family isn't celebrating.

And then I'm thinking of all my dad's accomplishments that I went and laid down. Yeah, well, I talked about my dad.

“I'll always remember my dad being furious.”

My grandfather. My grandfather. He was, he had to be in his 80s, early 80s. Yeah. And he had just gotten surgery.

And we pull up into his driveway. It's January or February. It's a snowstorm. There's a hood of his car opened. He just got out of the hospital the day before.

My father gets a good dead. What the hell you're doing? Because I got proud of the carburetor. He goes, get in the house. You just got out of the hospital yesterday.

Yeah. He had, and my grandfather worked as a machinist. And then realized he could compete. Remember I told you my grandfather was a Democrat. But he looked at the union in the shop.

He was at and said, I could undersell these guys because of the inefficiencies of the union. He went build his own machine shop in the garage in the backyard. And that became his business. And he actually took away a down a business from those companies that were inefficient. That was my grandfather.

Right. Because he could get more done. One person. One person. The union.

That's a group.

“In the small company that he was at, it wasn't a large manufacturer.”

But he built his own company. I mean, that kind of work ethic. So what is working hard? That's a pretty relative phrase. Now compared to my grandfather or my father.

Yeah. And the work ethic that they had. Right. That's so many had. And they were so talented.

It's so many different things here. Yeah. They could do cars, plumbing, woodwork. You know why? Anything they could do.

Because they had to. They had to. Yep. You could have a guy. You could call or an app.

You could just click the button. Yeah. You know. And then have people calling you left and right that wanted to help you. Right.

And for me on the on the job. For me. I feel helpless today. I've got the pool guy coming over because I got a small leak in a pipe. I don't want it to affect the vacuum.

And it's like, you got to make sure you make it today. Because I've got to make it today because I'm out of town. I go. I'm going to be out of town too. And I can't go out of town unless this is fixed.

Right. So I'm dependent on someone else. My father would simply go. I mean, go and get all this stuff. I'm like, I'm not going to touch this.

I can't do this with the valves. And the ceiling of the whole pool system. I mean, it's the vacuum that makes the whole thing run.

I'm like, I've never done this before.

And they can do it in 45 minutes and be gone. Mm-hmm. I'd be out there for three weeks. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

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“The problem is you're also putting yourself on record at a time when your party is taking”

ownership in companies because you did foreign entities. You didn't say we're against socialism. You said any form of socialism. Oh, man. I mean, that's a pretty big mountain that you've created.

And I liked it. They did it though. That's great. I'm happy they did it.

“Will they hold themselves to that in any form?”

They were looking to put Democrats on record. We're putting them on record. The real business idea is there. App, website or digital tool.