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09-15-26 Part Two - The Data Center Dilemma

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In part two of Red Eye Radio with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley, data center hysteria is our latest group chat gone wild. Love them or hate them, if you want AI they are here to stay (wherever that ma...

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All right.

You know, we never got to the story the other day to just see it.

Longest time ever. Well since I've been taking records, which is 60 years, no form to hurricanes in the Atlantic. That'll on B was great on that. Showed all these protesters holding signs. No hurricanes in the Atlantic, no hurricanes in the Atlantic, global warming is causing no

hurricanes in the Atlantic. And when I saw that, and yesterday, just pondering is, I do quite a bit. What can I ponder a lot? Yes. We don't grapple like Obama did.

We ponder.

He grappled with everything.

He was unsure. We ponder just the reality of everything that we observe. And the last, really, 36 hours a whole AI thing blew up, you had two of the guys. I'm not getting into this 70 details of their names.

β€œI think I'll spend two of the major AI CEOs say, "Well, we're willing to be right”

regulated." And the funniest thing that I saw was when someone said, "Well, there must be a problem with AI. Going to be a terrible problem because no company ever wishes to get regulated. Sure they do."

When they see where the winds are blowing, companies do it all the time. Let's get in there and say, "Well, let's help regulate it and we'll regulate it to our advantage because we're the big guys and help move on competition." But the whole AI thing and let me first because I'm sorry, sometimes Mark listens. I know, late at night, but I just was laughing when I saw Mark Levin's comments.

Let's see, regarding AI and data centers, first, the lies about water and energy usage, then the lies about destroying jobs, then the claim AI can destroy the world. Next, the big guys want to crush the competition that gets into where they wish to be regulated. And the latest they want government subsidies now are in the future.

What's most disgusting is this crap is bipartisan.

The first three industrial revolutions would never have happened if this week in pathetic

ruling class existed back then. The same ruling class had created a $40 trillion debt, Islamic mass migration, and sits on its collective ass as so security and Medicare goes broke. They want to ban or freeze or heavily regulate the next industrial revolution, what could possibly go wrong.

And then he wrote another one after that that said, "Hello, stupid people everywhere." And including those who may not realize they're stupid, you're about to hand the most

β€œimportant capitalistic innovation in modern times over to the federal government and”

the politicians and bureaucrats who are salivating to control it, control it, wake the hell up like it's he has exclamation marks, I can hear marks screaming. There's a reason the Democrats want government control over this industry and our spreading lies and fear monitoring, and they know once the door is open they will exploit and run wild, notice Obama is now all in.

Once the business is explained to the public, they support it. It's a too complicated for our elected Republicans and their mouthpieces to explain what to win fall this is for local communities, states, and more importantly the workers middle class everywhere, maybe so. And when you see the panic in AI, as we have definitely seen, people here AI and they just

go crazy, the points that he brought out, that markedly them brought out number one, you notice they're not talking water g and energy usage anymore. That was even a month ago, and it started coming out, well what are they doing for water usage? Oh, they can recirculate it.

Oh, okay. Well, you can put them in particular areas, well, we actually use more for golf courses and

Other industries, you know, use more and you can regulate that, you can, you ...

it comes to the grid, they can have their own power plants, you know, we can do this. This is all solvable.

β€œAs we said a couple of weeks ago when Trump said, well look, these things can be solved.”

Trump is right on this.

The problem is that the thing that's right, the Trump is right on his populist, the populist

portion of the Republican party is completely against it. But I look at this a lot like the whole global warming thing. So I'm looking to see, you know, the people that are actually doing just like the whole thing on the, on the, the, the lynchings, you know, the glove would just scream lynchings, just like they scream climate change, climate change for years.

The hundreds of billions of trillions that have been spent on climate change, with, again, no result whatsoever as we all know. All, all, not one, and we said this a long time ago when every single one of the doomsday scenarios that the left has come up with never came true, when do you start doubting it?

β€œAnd when you see the way that people argue, and when you see the first thing was, we're”

going to have no water, there isn't the energy, the grid's going to die and it's like, well, no, a lot of these places are building their own power plants and they're recycling the water. There's a bunch of different things that they can do. Well, they're noisy.

Well, good God, industries noisy. I remember when I was young, going to visit my grandmother and grandfather in Lakawana, and you'd go buy Bethlehem's steel, the huge plant miles upon miles upon miles of industry. And the question was asked, I forgot who asked the question a couple of weeks ago. Would we have ever built industry in this country if the same standards were held?

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follow and listen on your favorite platform. I was reading a story. It's like, there's noise coming from this one data center. Well, okay, don't put it in a zoning. We have a thing called zoning, you know, all these things can be solved.

But we know because they're not arguing the water and energy anymore. The whole thing, you don't hear this as much anymore. They've moved on. It's going to destroy jobs. All jobs would be destroyed, you know, now will there be people losing?

If you look at some of the latest job numbers, yeah, in certain areas, jobs are being lost. It's like they were lost, I mean, look at history going back to how we started the last two shows, you know, looking at how technology has changed so much. There was a huge concern when refrigeration came in. It destroyed the ice business, which was huge worldwide.

And that was where they used to basically chop ice, you know, from the lakes and, you know,

a pros and lakes up north all around the world and ship it everywhere. And they found out how to insulate it was saw it does and everything else and it was expensive. But it was a huge business to keep things cool. That was destroyed. Blacksmith cars.

The Industrial Revolution, a country that was once, you know, 91, 98 percent, 97, 98 percent farming, not's reversed. See you have in capitalism, which is called creative destruction, which is, again, things happen, technology comes in. We have challenges in this country.

We're going to need to highly more, more highly educated workforce.

But I've always said when they, when they were sent to go, wait a minute, what is the evidence

when you look at history and you say every great technological advancement actually created more jobs than it destroyed way more jobs. But when your politicians remember when Obama, the smartest man in the world, right, what

An idiot.

Yeah, what's the, you can see it, problem is ATM's, yeah, what ingenious he is.

β€œOh, the smartest president, let's build a thing like room.”

Let's all go to Grand Park hundreds of thousands of us. Obama, Obama, he was an idiot, like so many of them are good God. If there was ever an example of what my father said, you give somebody a title and they get an instant infusion of brains, he was number one, the guy was clueless, somebody pointed up the other day, I forgot who said it, he was a community organizer, but the community

he was tempted to organize is no better off than when he was organizing it. So he didn't even succeed there. And still, you know, the country views him is incredibly great president, wasn't. But we've seen it with climate change, we've seen it, the doomsday scenarios, we've seen it here with, you know, again with, with, with they either doomsday scenarios, I was reading

today, uh, uh, uh, was an, uh, I was an interim, I was interim a car theater, I did was Jim Garrity wrote it. And it was about, you know, what they're talking about inside of AI with the, you know, one of the executives was talking about and he was talking about, uh, you know, chemical warfare.

But when he was talking about it, he was talking about, well, basically, the hacking into AI

from foreign entities, well, that's a problem anywhere. If you look at it, it wasn't about AI taking over or AI thinking for itself, which is a doomsday scenarios that we're getting now, none of that, what we were told is what they were talking about. It was contraris get, you know, contraris get access to some of the things that AI could do

to speed up the development of chemical weapons. But it wasn't where AI was thinking for itself.

β€œYou know, I think the biggest problem with AI is, if you're looking at what we all noticed”

from AI is garbage in garbage out, uh, just, it's hilarious because as I told you, I have to go to the cardiologist tomorrow, there's nothing wrong with me, it's just routine.

I hadn't had an EKG in 10 years and I got a new primary doctor and it was like, okay,

we're going to, you know, putch it through everything. It's like, okay, that's, you know, that's all fine and dandy. But I lost my primary doctor, all of the offices of the regional group that he was with, all of them closed, all of them. And he said it was going to continue, I can't find him anywhere.

Even though I have a new primary doctor, I still look to see where he's gone. And every day, I go in and go, did my doctor find a new place into AI. Yes, he has a new place, and I'm like, okay, where's he, where's he evidence? Where's the source?

β€œAnd then I asked the question where you can ask the question in AI, Google AI, I said,”

I can't find the source from where you state that he's at this new office at this place. Where's the source? And immediately answers back to me, oh, we are so sorry. He does not, he's not at that new place. We have no source.

And I've done it repeatedly. I've done it, I mean, this doesn't happen once. It's not an over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. So when I look at the whole AI thing, number one, I'm suspicious, I was seeing today. Just like climate change was about taxation, follow the money, look at now, everybody wants

to tax AI. We want to tax these companies, we're going to tax them, we're going to tax them, we're going to tax them. Will you tax them? You first demonize it.

You demonize the oil companies, or for we should tax them. You demonize the billionaires, or for we should tax them. You demonize AI, therefore we should tax them. If we not seen this story before and again, what I want is I want the real world scenario of why you're talking about, I want the real, I want the real simple explanation that

you could do. In regular words to show me why we should not consider AI, especially when just in the past two months, you stopped with the, oh, they'll be no water, they'll be no energy, they'll be on the grid. Well, then it all came out, they can solve that and they're solving those situations

now. Okay, where do we go next week? It's going to destroy all the jobs, going to destroy all the jobs.

Well, hasn't destroyed, you know, jobs are still doing okay right now.

And all technology has made way more jobs than jobs that have been lost to create a destruction

as they call it. Why would this be different? Nobody's answering that question. Nobody ever did.

β€œWell, remember, Obama said that the jobs would be taken by an ATM.”

Yeah, but we're not paying attention to what idiots say. And so it's like, you got to explain this to me, explain to me if you're making the case, it's going to be doomsday explained to me in the real world how it's going to be doomsday. But I laugh when they said, well, no, when you find out the CEOs of these AI companies,

they want to be regulated by the government, they must view it serious or they just view

as, you know, because that never happens, it always happens.

We can fight this through government, that's where public opinion is, let's get ahead of it. We're regulated, and we want to help you regulate it.

β€œBut we're not a public that searches for evidence.”

We love drama. We love drama. We don't ask, look, you can need to provide me evidence and specific evidence and make it simple and clear, because I can understand it. Don't use big words, explain it so the public understands it.

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One's open for your goals, 866-90-Red Eye on Red Eye Radio, and we are Red Eye Radio. These are Carly, and I'm Gary McNamara, Eric has the morning off today, hopefully we will see him back here tomorrow, so yeah, just really interesting because it seemed to blow up here, and it's because the two CEOs were talking about the fact of yes, we're willing to be regulated by governments, even one of them said we'd be willing to be taken over

by the right governments out there, oh for God's sake, stop it.

Sheesh, like I said, explain it to me, I've already been as of first week of October 37

years doing this in '89, really at the beginning of the modern phase of talk radio in this country that rushed started in '88. I didn't want to do this, I got forced to do it as I've told you the story before. Thank you sir, Sue up in heaven, thank you Sue, she's the one that forced me to do it. But I've seen the hype, I've seen the drama, I've seen the drama Kings and Queens, over

the last 37 years on every issue, I've seen panic, I've seen doomsday scenarios, I've seen everything and none of them have come true, not one, except the government monopoly creating a debt and government regulation that helps the movement of a progressive society and progressive does not mean liberal.

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β€œAbsolutely, alright, more stuff, a few stories here that caught my eye, Tom Holman, White”

House boarders are Tom Holman confirmed to Fox News that the Department of Homeland Security

is looking into allegations involving representative Alano Mar, but would not disclose details about what he described as an ongoing criminal investigation, pressed on whether the federal government has evidence that Omar committed immigration or naturalization fraud, Holman declined to comment, I know things are going on, but I can't give specifics of what is happening. If someone committed an immigration violation, if someone committed marriage fraud, this is

a whole married her brother thing, that should be pretty, that should be pretty simple to prove in a court of law, should it not? If someone committed marriage fraud or anything like that, regardless if they are a congressman

β€œor not, no one is above the law, so I'll leave it at that.”

We'll let Homeland Security investigations continue the investigation.

One thing, Holman has his credibility. I watch a lot of people out there, a lot of bureaucrats out there and from the very beginning, so Holman can justifiably get on his high horse and from a position on that high horse of high authority, and from what I can tell, not that I've seen everything that he's ever said, but when I've seen him speak, he tells the truth.

So, interesting to see if they're where that investigation leads, and the statement that he said, this is the thing when he said, if someone committed an immigration violation, if someone committed marriage fraud or anything like that, regardless of if they're a congressman

β€œor not, no one is above the law, so I'll leave it at that.”

That's pretty strong coming from Holman.

We'll see where that goes. Also Gavin News says he won't, did I do this yet? I don't think I did. I don't do the Gavin News something, I don't think I did it. Oh, the Gavin News says he won't run for president in 2028, if Pamela Harris runs, or did

I just promote that I was going to talk about. I promoted and I was going to tell him, okay, good. Hey, as Eric would say, oh, Gary's an old man, he forgot what he did five minutes ago. Yeah, Gavin News says he won't run for president in 2028 if Pamela Harris runs. I don't know if she runs, but we'll see, but I would not run if she ran.

If she runs, you will not set a surprise Jake Tapper. Of course not, why would I? I wouldn't do that to her. I wouldn't do that to you. I wouldn't waste every one's time.

Who needs that? I'm trying to think what the Democrats speak of that is. Democrats speak. I can't run against her. I'm a white man.

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saying that the billionaire rallied other stadium owners to refuse to allow him to perform at their venues. In his response, Crap said he would welcome the opportunity to sit down with him and discuss the facts, there seemed to be some confusion in Crap's office regarding the statement as it nearly took an hour to confirm its authenticity to Variety, Macklemore and Sheeran

Did not immediately respond to Crap's comment.

Sheeran has remained quiet about the incident since it initially took place.

I wouldn't touch it either.

β€œWell, here's the reality of it. If you want to go and you want to say whatever you want”

as a rock and roll star, yeah, but the owner of that venue can say, no, not at my venue. If they own the place or they have authority to run the place, they get their rights to. It's that simple. Now, the interesting thing is, you see that, you see, you know, for example, Springstein

and now he alienated bunch of people and the whole Macklemore thing got a bunch of, I saw that on social media before where people were furious. The first time it happened going, what the hell is this? It was interesting because Fox News, I saw Fox News had it. The Google dials, Johnny Resnic draws a line on politics and concerts.

I'm not going to lecture you as I told you all my vacation, one of the things I did was a lot of recreational reading. Whenever I recreational read or when I read or do anything, show prep, if I'm sitting on the recliner, which is really good to do show prep on the recliner

with my laptop or phone, YouTube's always on.

And I may be in something in politics, I'll watch, but then the algorithms take it and put it in shuffle and go or whatever. And I watched it last week that whole interview that he did with Rick Biotto. Now, Eric and I have talked about Rick Biotto before, just a great show. Things musicians in and talks about how they get their sound, you know, just they talk,

talks the business of it and it was a great interview with Johnny Resnic. Really what? Now, Resnic from South Buffalo, from where I grew up.

β€œI remember when he was in a, basically, a trash band playing at the Continental.”

I remember when he was the janitor cleaning the dance floor upstairs of the Continental. I remember when the Google dolls were not the Google dolls, but the sex maggots that was actually their original name. And they picked the Google dolls because they had some show. And the promoter said, "You cannot use that name and play it my place," so they were

looking at some kind of comic book and there was a thing called a Google doll, so they picked it out. And he told Rick Biotto, he goes, "Just like, just like the food fighters." He said, "Yeah, if I could have picked another name I would have, but it is what it is." Now, he goes, "We just did it that one night and boom."

But he is a great pop songwriter. Johnny Resnic has become a great pop songwriter and they talked about everything. And they, you know, we had a mind and was talking about, you know, the song "Irerson" like it's had more plays and it was like one of the top couple of songs or I forgot what it is, but it was number one in the number of plays that had been on Spotify and everything

else just through the roof. And, but Resnic said, "I got people, fans, friends, and friends from every walk of life, every political stripe, everything."

And I always stress, we got one thing in common because we're living in weird times, we've

got one thing in common and that we're all here to see a show and I'm not going to lecture people about anything. And it was really good. And then they go on to talk about, you know, the entertainment commentators. Well, I can be an entertainment commentator, no, you're a political commentator.

I want to be an entertainment commentator. And I want to be a sports commentator too and I want to be a sports commentator. I can be whatever I want. By the way, who's handing out those official titles? And if do I have to abide by what my dad said, if I got a title, do I instantly get

a infusion of brains on that particular topic? But he was really, really good. I mean, he was great. I mean, talking about, if you don't think about Resnic and his guitar plane, it's how he tunes his guitars and gets that sound that nobody gets out of a guitar.

And so they were really going into that. But it was really interesting where he was just like, no, you know, not just not going to do it, it's, you know, he's, he's into playing a song.

β€œAnd so that's what I, if I was a musician, I'd be able to be playing my music.”

I wouldn't want to detract, be honest with you with from a business point of view. Number one, I mean, I'm paid to do this. If I was paid to do music, oh, Gary, you write music, and you play it very well.

I'd want the focus.

I'd want to be marketing that 100%.

And if I had a closed audience of people that paid to see me, and I want that repetition back, I want them to be there the next time that I come in town, I'm not going to cut off at my audience. That's just smart not to do that. And you're really not going to change anybody's mind.

If you're a rock star movie star, you love what they do. You can love it. They, you know, and when I see somebody who I disagree with, trying to think of what actor, Vincent Denafrio from Law and Order Criminal Intent, I saw him in an interview lately, he didn't talk politics at all.

β€œBut back, I think it was during Bush, remember he was going crazy.”

And I really hadn't watched much, I think I had seen, oh, what is it, men in black, where he was the alien, but I had not seen Law and Order Criminal Intent. I did not start watching that until a couple of years ago on repeats. Some of the best acting I've ever seen on TV. And he's one of them.

Even though I disagreed with the political opinions that he had, you know, I separate it. And I'm not going to because he's a great actor, you know, be convincing, oh, he's a great actor. What kind of insanity is he throwing out there?

Oh, when I believe as fascism, well, it isn't by definition, but since he said it and I respect him so much as an actor, well, then I'm a fascist. And I didn't know it. And I'm a Nazi too. So yeah.

But if you, I'm, everyone, YouTube, Rick Biotto's just a great, a great watch. And like I said, I didn't think I started watching it and I want to see entire thing. I was over an hour, but Rick Biotto's just so good. It really delving into, you know, the questions of music, record companies, everything else. And I'm telling you this from a, and I read a couple of books from musicians that I love

over the weekend.

And I'm like, I've never, I'm so glad I was never gotten in that business, so glad.

My God. Because the one thing that you want, you want your own autonomy, you create something, you want that to be promoted. Same thing here. I mean, it's in a different way, but you create your own autonomy.

β€œAnd that's what you want to be promoted.”

And there's always, when there's a pushback against that all the time. And like I said, in this business of always one, otherwise I wouldn't do it. And when I read so many of these musicians, they didn't win. And what the record companies wanted, failed them.

And they never got, they made a successful record and did what they wanted to do.

Then the record companies said, do this, do that, do this, do that. And they did it. And it didn't work. And then they get to blame and they're gone. That's got to be tough.

Because if I know the passion I have towards the autonomy, and I know Eric has it too, the autonomy of what we wish to do, how important that is to us, I can't imagine if I wrote music, you know, that was about the experiences I had. And the record company said, no, no, no, no, do this Taylor Swift song. By the way, I heard she was at the Kansas City Game last night, had to get that in.

We are right, I radio. Coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Carley, it's Red Eye Radio. He is our Carley and I'm Gary McNamara, you know, we're talking about the whole thing about rock artists and doing their politics on stage, especially now, I mean, the anger. What was it, remember was a couple of years ago?

β€œWas it John Mellon Camp, who was just like screaming at his audience?”

And it was like, come on, I mean, that's a kind of attitude that you walk on, you know, with to to stage and you think people are really going to pay money and you think about the price of concert tickets today. And I know that would hit me every single time I went out because you know that for the most part, if you're an established artist and lish, you have this reputation or producing

Great albums one after another, most people come to see your hits.

That's what they want to hear.

β€œAnd I would feel knowing that, knowing what the culture of my band is or, you know, what”

I'm putting out, I would feel this incredible obligation to make sure that they all

went home happy. If they're paying $150 or $200, got, got Lee, sorry, I'm being so 20 years ago. If they're paying $500 for a ticket, I'd better damn well be on my game for every single show.

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