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>> So I was right the first time when yesterday when I said McNamara.
>> McNamara, the rapper who is now off the Sharon Tour, as his all of his openers are now the rest, I don't know how many openers there were, I know there was one or two. So they've all going to quit the tour because if you're not going to be anti-Semitic on that tour, they don't want you.
β>> Yeah, wow, and Sharon said that I did see where he said he does not bring politicsβ
into his show, it's about the music. And then the interview, and I talked about this yesterday, because you and I watched a ton of Rick Biotto's podcast, and all of a sudden, because I watched it over vacation, all
of a sudden, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is becoming something you and I've talked about,
the interviews, the great interviews that he does, and the interview with Johnny Resnick from the Google Dows, formerly the Sex Mackets, the two story story, a new story. Johnny Resnick from the Google Dows just said he goes, look and he goes, I've got listeners, I got friends from every political band, and he said he goes, you know music, he goes, have you music, because the starting point, music's a starting point, you know, that can
you not as we're on one place together, we're all enjoying the music, you go back, you all feel good about yourself. >> Well, it's kind of like sports, right, we've talked about that, you know, you come together
for the home team, except here in Dallas, and we, or if you're, or if you're music fan,
you come together for the artists or the group, except in the Nickelback, it's, you know, it's everybody who enjoys the fans, right, or enjoys the music, yeah, I was, I was at a place, and they were playing in the air tonight by Phil Collins, and two of the servers were standing there, and it came up to the drum fill, the, probably one of the greatest drum fills of all time, and as a drummer, it's a very, and I've been playing drum since
I was 10, it's a, it's a very simple, but most effective drum fill, and so we're sitting there, and we're all kind of, and you know, and I'm looking down, you know, at the receipt, and they're kind of standing there, and then the drum fill comes in, and they're both like, you know, banging their heads to that drum fill, and I'm tapping it on the table in real time, and I said, okay, we all wanted to play air drums in that moment. I said, I'm a drummer,
and I could, you know, how hard it was for me to restrain, but, you know, it's, you know, come together with music. I hear that song. And for sports, yeah, you know, and I think it when I hear that song? What's that? Miami, Miami, vice. Oh, they, the, and when it was playing, yeah, and the car was just, oh my gosh, it tubs and crocket in the car just speeding through. That was Michael Man, right? Yeah, you need direct that. Yeah, yeah, Michael Man
direct that. And it's all, and it's all, you don't, you don't hear really anything except you see the car just speeding through. You might hear some car sound in it, but it's just all the lights. And remember, the distinctive lighting, yes, that was, that was in there,
βand that's what I think of every time I see that song, I don't even think about Phil Collinsβ
with the song, right? Immediately, the Miami vice image was there. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. But, yeah, so, you know, it's, you know, if, look, we know where a lot of these artists stand. We know the anti-Semitism that exists in Hollywood, in music, in pop culture, in general, and it's on the left. This anti-Semitism, I'm not saying there aren't anti-Semitics on the right, but the right, the majority of the right is very quick to denounce those individuals
and separate them and carve them out from the herd, if you will, because they are not welcome. In my opinion, ever, anti-Semitism, I don't care who you are or who you vote for. There's no place in this world for anti-Semitism, but leave is where football lives, from
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the game, they leave and network, follow and listen on your favorite platform. But with the left, it's normal. They've known. I'm waiting for the 28 convention, because apparently they weren't going to have a 26 summer convention themselves, but they're 28 convention, who knows? And I'm assuming, I mean, this was back a while, I'm assuming the Johnny Resek from the Google Dolls' Liberal. How do I know? I remember when he played
for a Dennis Kusinich rally. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That goes back a while, but I remember when that happened, I'm like, okay, he's probably liberal, but I don't want to look these days. It's amazing last week, because I was just did a bunch of stuff last week, so both in Texas and in Florida, and every single person that I met, and I met probably 15 new people that I did know, and we just started generally talking, and so when they ask you
what you do, you're like, okay, this is going to end real quick. Yeah, someone asked me yesterday, yeah, yeah, here we go. Yeah. And every single one of the people voted for
Trump, not all were conservative. Yeah. I talked to a few that had always voted Democrat
but voted, but when I talked to them on the issues, actually the issues, they were all conservative. Yeah. You know, we've talked about that many times before that if you look at the country, and I think I've seen a couple of articles over the last couple of weeks,
βwe still live in a conservative country. Yeah, but you're voting, you're, you have toβ
country. You're giving power. Right. You're giving power to the people that you claim that you don't agree with on the, on the, on the issues. And like I said, we, we have described, I don't have to say it like what you've disagreements with Republicans really, you're kidding. You know, but, you heard the show, but Democrats, I mean, they're bad soup. Crazy on these issues. I mean, when you look at, we played it earlier in the show,
when you look at that woman who was testifying before Congress yesterday, a lifelong Democrat crying, talking about, I've been a Democrat. How can the Democrats betray me? How can they not care about American citizens at all with sanctuary cities? How can they sit there? So cold harded? How can they be upset and perturbed? You know, at the fact that, you know, we're testifying that our children have been killed by illegal immigrants who you're allowing in this country,
and you wish to allow illegal immigrants that are here illegally and have committed other crimes, including violent crimes, you're protecting them and want them to stay in the country. How can you justify this? Have you no conscience? Have you no soul? I mean, when you look at something like that, when you look at the radical transgender movement, and I know Laura Ingraham said, the swing voter doesn't care about that swing voter only cares about the economy. That's the one issue that
hits them, everything else is sort of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I understand that because I do meet people that are completely clueless. I didn't last week, but in my travels, I told you
the people that I meet that are clueless. I'll never go back to the couple that I met at the hotel
βthat I stay at in Buffalo when I go see my dad. I'll never forget it. And we started talking inβ
everything else, and the one guy was talking because I explained, I don't know, that's not what's happening. Here's what happened here. Oh, then they moved to the next topic. They didn't say, okay, I was wrong, they just moved to the next topic. Finally, the guy says, well, you know what upsets me is the hypocrisy of conservatives. They claim they're patriotic and they can't clearly claim they care about the flag, but though they were a flag and they break the flag coat all the time. They
were flag shirts and flag, what the hell are you talking about? But that's not a flag. That's not a flag by the definition of the flag cold. You want me to pull off the flag coat. I'll show you. We can go, I don't believe anything that I read. That was his answer. And so you actually have a significant number of people that are like that. I don't know what's going on. I don't want to know what's going on. I heard this. I heard this. I can't even tell you where I heard it, but I liked it,
I don't want it fact checked.
what the hell do you do? When you deal with people who sit there and say, no police, yeah, no military, no president, no house of representatives, no Supreme Court, no electoral
βcollege. When you actually, and you go, can you explain the Constitution? Do you understand it?β
Do you understand the separation of powers and the three branch of government? And they're completely clueless on the Constitution yet they want to get rid of it. That's to me. That's the most frustrating thing. The people that I met last week aren't as frustrating to me because at least they tell me what they believe on the issues and can explain to me and connect the dots with it. The problem we have in this country are the people that are just pure rage and emotion,
no logic, no critical thinking. Don't question anything. Don't question anything that they
believe. Right. And then you ask how they came to their beliefs and they can't even tell you and when they tell you it's something absurd like, well, because conservatives don't follow the flag code and you say we'll explain that. They were t-shirts and they were things with flag emblems on it. And I saw a guy with a half a flag. It wasn't even the 50 stars. He actually said that. I go out. That's not a flag. You know, by the flag code, it's a, let me get you out. Let me get the flag code.
Let's look it up my phone right now. No, because I don't believe anything that I don't believe anything. I don't believe anything in the news at all. You know what's interesting. How do you my dad in the hospital in the hospital? This was a Saturday evening.
I always say my dad and I when we get together, we have our own little talk show.
And this one was very brief because apparently he was in the hospital. No, but he was obviously, he was feeling better by that time. He was stable. And he turned the TV on and
βand there was a, I think it was the Texas tech game. I think he was watching it. And butβ
he didn't have the sound off. He just wanted to, I think, to check the score or something. He said to me basically what you and I have said. Why aren't people asking questions? Why, why, why do they not question things? Why do they not, they, they just say it as a matter of fact. And then, of course, the media is not going to question them. There's no real debate. You know, there's, there's the
lobbying of the ball back and forth. You know what it is? It's a game of pong. That didn't say this, but that's the point he was making. There was real, there's no real debate. There's no one questioning things. You know, an investigator, my dad questioned everything. That was his job. Your dad during his job, during his career. He's an engineer. Well,
βis that going to work? How does it work? Well, it better work. Or we can't do it. Well, that's whyβ
when I was a little bit 14 year old, I was thinking myself, is my dad just this arrogant or cocky, when he said, what you need to do in business is you need to be right 100% of the time. And I said, dad, you, you know, but he can be right 100% of the time. He goes, well, then shut the hell up. Don't say if you can't. Don't know if you don't know if you're right on these things, because because in engineering, you can't be wrong. So you better be 100% right in everything that
you do. And if you're not, and if you're not sure, then go and find it out. Right. And, you know, that's, that's how I was. And so for the people that I know, the people that I hang around with,
all of my family, they may not be involved in what they have to do critical thinking, but critical
thinking is the core of their belief, the question thing, the question things, the curious things, they connect the dots, curiosity. We've talked about the lack of curiosity that exists out there, because I would want to not sound like an idiot. What, what are the biggest fears that I had? I didn't want to be a talk radio host. Right. I still, Sue, thank you. God, rest her soul. Was it one who apparently saw something in me and said, "Well, you're going to do the
talk show." And I said, "I can." She said, "You know, I said, I can't. I won't." She goes, "Oh, you don't have a choice." And she didn't give me a raise to do it. She piled extra work and didn't give me a raise. I used to hit her on that as my defense, when every time I talked to her, she said, "Okay, I'm ready." And I'd have to say, "Thank you for making me do talk radio." And why? Well, because there's a 50, 55-year-old, this is really, you know, 60-year-old. I think she died about five
Years ago, six years ago.
Lady Gaga or Macklemore or whatever." Unless it had something to do with, as we know. Now, anti-Semitism, but I was scared to death of being wrong. Yeah. Yeah. And a listener calling me up or somebody going or a guest going, "You don't know what the hell you're talking about?" That's scared
that hell out of me. Why? Because it'd be incredible shame that how dare I went on a public forum
and sounded like I was a complete, you know, clueless jerk. Right. And now you're just a jerk.
βNo, I'm just a jerk. You know things, but you're a jerk. Yeah. I think I know that.β
No, I'm not. We question all the time. No, you know. Because, and we tell her, I think we said to our listeners for years, and maybe recently we, you know, we haven't said it as much. "Question anything you hear on our program." Do your own homework. When Elon Musk said, "You are the media." His point is, you have access to the information. You can go out and find that information. You can be what a journalist actually should be. It may take work, but with today's
technology, it's right there in your hand. And you can do wonders in terms of finding out for yourself,
the truth. Not everything is true, of course, on the internet. But people know the truth when they see it and when there's evidence to back it up, history to back it up, you know it's true. You know, you can count on it. You can ask my great nephew, or my great nephew, or his father, my nephew. Both, like, sons to me. Yes. And I told them both because they knew early on what I did. Right. And I told them, I said, and Sunnyman, great nephew, just off to college this week.
I said, "Question everything." Right. Just because the professors there, remember what grandfather's great grandfather said to you, that just because you got a title does not mean you got an incident of fusion of brains. Just because they're a professor doesn't mean they know what they're talking about. Right. I said, as I told you all the time about me, don't agree with me because you'd love me, and you believe I'm your great uncle, and I'm in talk radio and on a national form. So I know what I'm
βtalking about. Right. Question anything that I tell you. Right. You need to be autonomous in your thoughtβ
process. Right. You need to be a critical thinker of your own. So you make me prove my point.
And if you're not happy with my answer, question me more. Right. That's the only way I know how to live. I've been there for 37 years. I tell my wife, question everything except for anything I say. I thought it was just here. And that. No. Same difference. Well, out loud, I say yes to you. Okay. In my brain, I'm saying the other thing. We are right. I radio. Brought to you by FPPF, fuel power max independence with carrier authority should be mindful than negotiations strength
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βit's so easy. And I got a lot of people when I was there to go, you know, how do we find you?β
Well, you're not going to find us but you'll find our show. Right. I go very, very quickly. And I told him I'd download the app and somewhere listening right there. Oh, I want to restron. Nice. Listening on their phones right there and I'm like, well, you don't have to listen right now when I'm here. I don't want to get into a fight if you disagree with me. They were lying to me. One of my dad's professional caretakers actually,
a young Ryan who is studying to become a registered nurse and eventually wants to become a doctor. And I told him I said, you know, because he got into asking me about, because I wanted to make it all about me while I was sitting there in the hospital with my dad. And so he said, but somehow we got in the conversation while we were waiting on dad and one of his procedures and I told him, and I said, here, you can Google the, and I said, we have our own app and he goes,
oh, there's the app and he downloaded right there. So Ryan, if you're listening, thank you to all the professional caretakers that are listening. Thank you for listening. Yeah, that's
βgreat. Thank you for what you do. I think I made the day of my nurse today when I went to theβ
cardiologist by the way, just sort of an e-nose by not disrobing and just norming around on. No, I had no, my EKG. So I had to take my top off. Uh-huh. Oh, you did. Yeah. So I'm there and laying on the bed and got my, you know, I've got my top off and put in all the, you know, whatever the tape is before the electrodes would, whatever. Yeah. And, you know, she keeps, you know, touching my chest. She goes, I'm sorry if my hands are cold. I'm sorry if my hands are cold. Are you okay? Are you okay?
And I said, I'm an old man. I have my top off and a young woman is touching my chest. I'm okay. And she burst out laughing. Hey, just burst out laughing. And then ask for somebody else to take over. No, she knew what's going on. That's fine. She's just, people understand my sense of humor very quickly. Yeah. Well, it's, you know, when you go, it becomes, the more visit you have and check ups you have and test you have. It becomes more intimate. By the way, when I was in the hospital
for days and my dad, by the way, uh, I brought his go bag, but, you know, up there with him, he asked, do I have to put on a count? And they said, well, no, you know, because of the situation, you don't have to. If you've got to lose T-shirt, you know, and, and whatever you would like to wear,
and he brought to job us. So he'd never had to wear a gown. Um, then that was just based on what,
but he was going through. When I was in the hospital in 2019, I told my dad that, sorry. I said, I actually stayed in my jeans. I kept the gown on. I put a gown on, so the gown was my shirt. But I kept my jeans on. I wouldn't, except for when I took a shower. I was like, no, I'm keeping my jeans on. I won't get into the details, but this goes back a couple of years ago, when I had to go to the proctologist. Yeah. Not a colonoscopy, some of your jeans on there.
Something else there. That's, that's a jeans off place. And as that one procedure,
βpulling back, we're not going to expand in the procedure. Right. And he said, are you okay with this?β
Not uncomfortable? And I started laughing. He goes, why are you laughing? I said, as soon as I come into a doctor's office, everything is chemistry and biological in my mind. Don't worry. I'm fine with all of it. Then I asked him afterwards. I said, do you like your job? Yeah. Because I, you know, as you say, when you go, right, when you get older, right, and you know, like, for, for example,
I realize now why I no longer like sports. Because sports is always about, you know, playing the
numbers, some percentages. And, you know, can they win? What's this? What's that? You know, what, what's his percentage? And I've simply changed my numbers from that to, oh, my blood sugar is this over this? Okay. What is my, oh, look at this. So 1, 23, over 7, 6 with a 54 pulse. A little bit. Well, the health center, everybody. Gary, say 1c is what we'll talk about. And what's at PSA number there? I've just switched my numbers to something else. The only thing was, I like the old numbers better because they weren't life in death. Well, A1c does sound like a college sports league.
Or, or a politician from New York. The A1c West. You know, what's your A1c? I hate her. That's, but I was done. I said, do you like your job to the proctor? I was just good. Do you really? He goes, I love my job. And I said, why said, because people are so extremely uncomfortable to come in and get some, you know, to get something done if they have a problem.
Right.
And everything else besides that. This is professionally to help you be healthy. And he said, I get great joy out of that. And I go, that's awesome. It really is.
Yeah. Because you need all these doctors that do things that you go. That may not be minimally invasive. Yeah. Well, when I, when I showed up for my last colonoscopy, I have another one coming up on our next vacation because, oh,
βI think that's the great thing to do on your vacation. I do my non vacations every couple of years, every three to five years. So, so next month, I have that to look forward to.β
Anyway, the last one, they come in and they say, okay, you're going to have to, you know, fully disrobe. And you can put this on. And I said, I'm sorry. I'm here for the teeth cleaning. You know, that, you know, how you know your old, this is how you know your old and concerned about your health all the time, that the last time I had my last colonoscopy was December of 24. And, and I remember the, my, my, my, my doctor telling me, this is my primary doctor before I went in. He said, you know, if you're clear, you'll never have to get a colonoscopy again. He goes, because it would be 10 years.
And they don't give one after 80. And I said to help with that. So, if I'm clear, I want another one. He goes insurance might not cover it. I go, I don't care. I'm not way, I said, I've had polyps in the past and I'm not, I'm not waiting. When you're sitting there telling your doctor that, no way, I'm not going to get a colonoscopy. I want a colonoscopy. When you're at that point in your life, and that's your mindset, you know your old.
Yeah, definitely. Please, I want the colonoscopy, but I wanted to make sure we get to this because I thought it was interesting as we were talking about critical thinking skills and politics.
There are two, two different issues out there. One, we talked about yesterday when you weren't here. And it was AOC and also, uh, uh, uh, Ariana Presley talking about, you know, the lynchings, know the 10 black lynchings that happened. Right. Right. And talking about the fact that we need to stop this, you know, the epidemic of racial lynching in the United States. And they say those things and nobody questions them. They never get question. Right. My god, there's been 10 national review went through every single one.
There's no indication of any evidence at all at all of any type of lynching whatsoever. Wow. And they're from what they know, no white people involved in it at all. Not one looking at it. And they went through every single one and every investigation of every single one. And I got it. I got a text going. Yeah, but that's unusual. So they should investigate it. I go, what do you mean it's unusual. You investigate each one of them.
βThat's what you do. Yeah. And that's what they've done. They've investigated each and every one of them.β
Unusual things happen all the time. Unusual things happening does not automatically mean that I'm going to guess what the cause is without any evidence whatsoever.
But it's or apply the cause. Basically.
But that's right. What the cause right is. And then have people trying to convince them that's what it is. Because it's projecting because they weren't saying allegedly or it could be this. Right. That's a possibility. They said, it is this. It is lynching. Right. And you have a press that does not sit there and go, that's reprehensible and evil that you did something like that. Why? Because what what you're doing is you're trying to create racial hatred by lying.
βYou're trying to get one race to hate another race by lying. Well, how do you solve that? You solved that by saying, what's the truth of this all?β
But the left has no interest in the truth at all. And it's simply this happened. So it must be this, even though there's a complete lack of evidence in any of those cases that what you have said, which is a lynching, which is a mob, by the way. Yes, lynching is a mob that comes after you. Right. There's zero evidence. But again, you didn't question it. The other one is a whole AI thing.
And when you were gone yesterday, I was talking about the whole AI thing. I said, you know what the problem is, you know, people make instant assumptions. Well, the CEO's, they see no CEO ever wants regulation and they're saying that they want regulation, so there must be something wrong. And I'm sure you and I both know, no CEO's, especially liberal CEOs, when they know that the public opinion is going in one way, always talk about the fact that what we'd like some government intervention here in week and help.
Because they want to help create their own regulations and influence it with government. Right. So we all know that already happens, but it's assumed nobody questions it.
We've always said, you question everything.
I look at one of the biggest problems is in this whole AI thing is specifically tell me what the doomsday scenario is, because remember, it first was water and electricity. Right. But not talking about that anymore. And then it was, you know, even her haven't heard that in a month and a half. Right. Right. And then it was, then it then it was, um, uh, what was the next. Oh, all the jobs are going to be killed. And all the sudden there were more of that started a few like a few weeks ago that the jobs would just, so they would spend all this money and building these centers.
And then all of a sudden boom, you know, I mean jobs would just go away. That all these jobs go and would not be replaced. Right. Well, that argument's been going on for years on AI, you know, and technology in general. Yeah. That jobs would be lost automation.
βAnd we've said, but nothing in history has ever shown that. Why are you making that assumption?β
And why am I wrong for looking at history and saying, well, I, I don't know if that's true or not. Why am I automatically demonized when I say history has shown that massive. Because you look at the, the change. As we've talked about from the agriculture, to the industrial society, happened in less than a hundred years. And really, there was a 98% of the jobs changed.
Yeah. Yeah. Completely changed in less than a hundred years. Right.
And we, the society handled it. We'll society have to change, of course, because my father told me, the job market's never going to adapt to you.
You have to adapt to the job market. Yeah. Right. Once you know that, you go, well, then it's my job to be prepared. But on the whole Doomsday scenario, and Jim Garrett, he got into an international review because one of the CEOs was talking about about chemical warfare. Yeah. You know, an AI.
Right.
βBut the concern was terrorists getting into the AI to figure out how to do chemical warfare faster.β
It wasn't that AI was getting not a control and would create any type of Doomsday scenario. So none of that was a part of it. It wasn't that AI will go wild. It's will the wrong parties be able to get into places that they shouldn't be able to get into, that they can get into now. Yes.
Because always hacking has always been a problem.
Well, is that the Doomsday scenario that we should stop AI? What is he doing? And we have such a reactionary society that makes an absolute opinion based on what is going to happen. Based on ignorance, that's a huge problem that we have. And to my disappointment, it's now coming over to the right.
Yeah. Yeah. Where you say, well, I want to question this. Well, then you must be the other side. Then you're the evil person over there.
βWell, you have to know that you have to take an absolute.β
Which means you have to assume that what you believe were the side that you're on. Is going to be absolutely correct. We, we saw it with, okay, they didn't tell us the truth on the COVID vaccine. Right. To the point of a significant portion of people in this country, all vaccines are bad.
Yeah. Right. Where the hell did that come from? What are you talking about? History will blow that out of the water.
Smallpox, polio, we can go on and on and on and on. And so, but it's this instant thing that once the political narrative is hit, you're either a board or you're demonized, and you must be against everything that that little political insulated ball believes. Right.
Exactly. Which, of course, is ridiculous. And the moment you question it, even. Yeah. You're, again, you're separated from the group.
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So, I really think that, you know, one of the biggest problems we have is is not that we don't have the right answers, but we don't have the right questions and people don't question it. That's it. It's so funny that you say that because my dad in the hospital said that the other night.
That was the extent of our little talk show we always have,
you know, based on our limitations, you know, at the time. But he brought up that point and it really hit home, because you and I have been talking about this recently, most recently, and dad's picking up on it. Everybody knows this.
You should always, I think you hit it right there.
You, it's not the answers.
It's the questions. Yeah. Right.
βIt's intelligence, by the way, isn't measured by what you already know or think you know.β
It's your ability and and also drive to find out the truth,
to find the answer. Somebody working with my father and said your father is the smartest guy in the room all the time.
And I said, what do you mean?
Because he asked the most questions. There you go. This is Riddai, radio on Westwood One.
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