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It's you know, you know, the joke. I mean, you don't miss that much. I work 24/7. You work 24 days a year. You're not stern. Seven months.
“That's what I need to say. We all like to get that schedule. Isn't that what we call retiring?”
Anyway. But you just, you made me think of something we could go ahead after I've got something after you're just. I was just saying update on dad because first of all,
you and I have to keep in mind our listeners are always very sweet. Any time we talk about our
parents, family members or anything going on in our personal lives, they reach out to us with prayers and and great thoughts and and and and and we definitely feel the love. I remember being here when you're when your mother passed being on the air and it was overwhelming. I was feeling and I was I was I wasn't personally know your mom, but I feel like I did. You know, but it was a loss for our radio family. And so from my dad and who was in the hospital recently
“and he's been battling and incurable blood cancer today or now yesterday on Wednesday. I went”
back down. I've been going down there every day. Thursday, I have the day off because we have professional caretakers at the household day and we'll prep and you have the day off for dad. Not not from the show. I'm thinking about thinking about leaving here in a few minutes. Yeah. But I'm thinking about leaving. No, but it's it was so I this was a follow-up with his primary care is general physician and that that happens when you you're going to the doctor.
If you go into the hospital and you have as many issues as my 93-year-old father has, then they have to get everything straight and my dad is very good, you know, so far on cognitive issues, my mother is not. And so it's a balance and they're both living in the home right now with
“great professional care. Again, I can't say enough. I can't say enough about, I can't say nothing”
about those professional caretakers. I can't say enough about those professional caretakers.
It's they're just amazing people. But we went to the went to the doctor. I drove after we got
off the air. Helps with some things in the morning. It was kind of a light day, relatively speaking with what we've been through with his hospitalization. But we we get there and everything was really really smooth. He sits in the lobby for not even two minutes. They call him, you know, you know, the nurses assistant or whoever it is comes out and calls your name. All right. And bring him back and then he's done in 10 minutes. I was answering email. Didn't have time to
answer all my email, actually. Work email and the lobby. And so on the way home, he told me, "Hey, can you come down and take me if I have to go to the hospital or any doctor's visit for any reason?" Because when I took him last week, we were on vacation. So it actually worked out that way. He had a nurse with him. And he wasn't at a point where he required an ambulance, but it was getting worse. And I was only, I wasn't that far away. So I went and he really wanted
me to be there anyway. I had to be there anyway. And when we got him there, they got him right in.
And this isn't always the case. And there was no preferential treatment or anything like that.
It's just a 93-year-old comes in with all of the symptoms and condition he was in. And they took him in. They had a chest X-ray within minutes. They had a CT scan almost immediately following. They had a treatment plan right away. It happened so quick. And then yesterday, his follow-up. And by the way, when he hop back in the car, so I drove, I drive up and we get him out right
There at the door.
when I go to drive through to pick him up. I say, "Okay, you're going to set your appointment at the front desk, your next appointment. I'll go get the car and bring it around." So he comes out and he
“gets in the car and he goes, "Hey, I think I got my C legs back." My dad was Navy starting at the”
age of 18, served on the USS Samuel and Moore in the Korean War. And so C legs are something he
knows about. But he always says that. You know, if he's feeling better and he did, he looked
happier. And it was so, it was answered prayers. And I want to thank everyone who sent me anything. And even those who I know were praying and didn't reach out to me. But because I know our audience, I certainly said my share of prayers for my family members and anyone I know that's going through something you and I have been through that for a while. But when he says, "Hey, you know, could you, you know, jokingly, can you come down and take me to the hospital or any
out there?" Because I get right in and everything is run so smoothly this week. I said,
"Dad, it's the aviators. I wear aviators shades." Because of a condition with my right eye,
I have to have really dark shades and they really need to cover my eyes. And so I wear Biden aviators shades. And so I told my sister that and she goes, "Well, I'm not sure that helps in Texas and I said, "I said, don't my dad," I said, "Maybe I look official coming in with you."
“You know, one of the reasons I think that because I, you had mentioned my mom and the response”
that we get is because so many of our listeners were just relating to them the stuff that they've gone through or they believe they're going to go through with their parents or sometimes they've gone through, they've gone through an arrest yet, or multiple times and I keep that in mind all the time. And so, you know, it's something that isn't, it isn't talked about a lot and we just find it
naturally easy to talk about anything. You know, it's a way we've always been. We just, we, we
will confront reality in any way, but you know, with compassion and kindness across the board. I mean, that's just the way that we were raised. But I will tell you this, I have people ask, you know, what is the, what is the thing that has gotten you more response? You know, what's the issue that has gotten you more response than anything else ever as a radio talk show host? You know, the budget, you know, dad would go, "No, not even close." I said, "By far, number one." And
and I'm talking about like a USA basketball, the women's team winning five gold medals or whatever it is in championships and a row and they just dominate and it's my parents talking about my parents that has gotten more response than anything else because I believe it's so relatable. It's so relatable to everybody and it is also, it's interesting in fascinating how you go through all of these things, how you deal with things like, you know, like real life. I know that I got
a lot of response when, because I hate the term, you know, your, your politician go, it's the new normal and it drives me crazy. Yeah. But when I, for example, talk about my dad with his dementia and like I said, probably 99% of the time he's not there, you know, he's in his own delusions. But going, we're going through that with my, with my mother. Yeah. And so you,
“it becomes a new normal because it has to, you have to push aside the reality of, you know,”
every single day saying, you know, especially in the very beginning because his came pretty quick. Yeah. And it really did. It was shocking when it happened and you almost as a collective and I mean, the family all together saying, we just got to deal, we've, we've, we've got to deal with it and make the happy moments, the happy moments you can't, you have to make it a new normal. Yes. And not just focus on it, day in and day out and going into a massive depression yourself. Right.
And that's where I look at my family and my, my siblings, especially in my brother-in-law's part of all of it. Yeah. And even my, you know, my nephew, my, my nieces and nephews. My, my nephew's a niece. Yeah. And, and, and it's just, you know, everybody has just, you know, made that decision. And, and part of it's, you can make that decision because we would know what our father would say. Yes. Don't you sit there and go into depression over me. Right. You go live your life.
If you do what you have to do.
do the job now. But, you know, you, you've got, because it is, it's the responsibility in life. And I said that to my father. I said, I said, dad, my wife and I have talked about this from the beginning of our marriage. The better part of four decades now that we've been together.
And we've always talked about this is what you do. And to, to the extent that you can,
“like with my mother-in-law, she requires full-time residential treatment. And you, you have to know”
that that's the best place for them, even though that's the hardest place to leave them after every visit. My parents aren't there yet, but my dad has had that conversation with me in recent months, you know, it, it, it made come to that point. But, yeah, you, you look at that and that's it. It's, it really is about, you know, this is what, this is what you do. And, you know, I think about, I was, in the lobby of the doctor's office today, waiting on dad, they had a report on young people
going into traits. We've talked about this, but this new study that came out and, and showed
a survey how many young people are going into traits. They're learning to become,
they're doing hands-on jobs, they're learning to become electricians and, you know, plumbers and, and everything else, and they're moving away from the college education, or maybe they're doing
“a combination of both a hybrid of both. And, and, and I think to myself, because I talked to my,”
my dad's neighbor, dovi about, he's very strong about, you know, he kind of talks a lot like we do in that, do people know how things work. In fact, I had a conversation with him just yesterday, when I pulled up to take dad, and I said, you know, dovi, we talk about that a lot, because he knows what I do, and I said, we talk about that a lot about, do they understand how we got here as a nation, how freedom is earned and preserved, because he served in Vietnam, like my father,
and he, you know, and he's, one of these guys, he served early on, by the way, he told me yesterday, I didn't know that, but it was very early on in Vietnam. But these are the things that we, as I'm looking at that television story in the lobby, watching that television story about young people going into trades, I'm thinking to myself, this is not bad news. It didn't feel like the, it was being presented that way, I don't know what channel it was actually,
I'm not sure what they had it on, but it may have been local news, I don't remember, but it caught my ear. Yeah, there's been a number of stories over the last couple of weeks about how this happened. Yeah, and I think, you know, okay, this is a good thing, because we should understand, you know, AI's going to, I think AI's going to have a lot of positives, and, you know, if you negative is here and there, that's the way technology works, I don't have a fear of AI, I think
it's been, there's been this big fear building of AI, and I think the left fears AI, because they don't want people learning more things. Well, when you talk about, you know, everything here, everything here, it's really what we've been talking about this week, where we talk about the ignorance of people who say this country sucks, and they have no idea what the constitution is. You can't even tell you, you know, why it is the way that it is, and we expanded it, you know,
this week to just the history of technology in this country, and where we were just 100 years ago,
“and people walking around saying, my life is so tough. Yeah, if you actually know the history”
of technology and governments, yeah, and you understand the constitution and you understand where we were as a society, and how hard life was compared to now. Yeah, because everything's relative. Right. And when you look back at it, and these people, it's not tough. It's not tough at all. It's not tough. It's not even close to being tough the way that it used to be. Yeah. And we've got a bunch of winters and complainers. Yes. Who, yeah. And part of it is complete
ignorance, say, of no idea, and I was telling you this the other day, the whole thing, well,
one person used to be able to work, one job, and my father always said,
"Where the hell did that come from? I was working three jobs in the early 50s." Yeah. But if you look at it, except for the very short time of a world war, where, you know, so you go 1946, to maybe the, you know, maybe the mid 60s, at 20-year period, where you had a baby boom, and you had, you know, you came out of a depression and then a war, and then the
Economic engine boom where people got a lot more material things than they ev...
you, you think about it before that. That was a very short period of time, and then as always things
change, and there's creative destruction and technology moves on to something else. Right. It was RTM's killed a lot of jobs. Oh, remember when Barack Obama said it, it had it. That means it must be true. But if you look at it, if you say, okay, we had a burst of a short period of time where the economy might have been, you know, a lot better at that point. Maybe it was for a few people. But for the majority of people, they still had a work like my crazy, my father, as he said,
and my father was, you know, my father was not a blue collar worker. Right. He was an engineer. Right. And so, but he was an engineer. He was, he was an engineer. One company, a machinist at the other, doing something else. He was working one full-time job in two part-time jobs.
“Well, that's why my mother was home. Right. You know, and because they wanted to have kids,”
and that's what it required in order to live in, you know, and this would have they got married and I think in 51. Yeah. Yeah, 51. So, you know, and so that was all the way through into the 60s before I remember him just working one job. Right. You know, I mean, that's for me. I remember my dad would moonlight, as a, as a undercover security guard at a, at a store. He would walk around with a cart full of things and look for shop collectors. And also, he went to night school to finish
to get his master's degree. But we didn't have close to the material things that people have today. Right. You know, who was, it was a stocyl that did the things about what people have that are in the poverty level in the United States. Right. And it was mind-boggling what they have.
“If you show me somebody without a phone these days, show me a five-year-old without a phone.”
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done of stuff. Number one, we got we have to touch on it. Bernie Sanders 32 hour work week.
Yeah, we talked. I joked about it yesterday. We never really got to. We never really covered
the actual issue. So we will get to that coming up here on the show and just I thought I should bring this up because one of the things we've often talked about is when there's a big health care bill or something in Congress or whatever we said, well people talk about they of course they care about health care but most people are in the system. They're not in the system. The vast majority of people are not sick at one time. So they're not immediately affected by
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You're listening to Red Eye Radio from the Ray Lee Factory Studios. We're Red Eye Radio. He is here, Carly and I'm Gary McNamara. Welcome and a good morning. Stuff coming up in just a minute. How we done? We've got time. We can put it in now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to take a minute off work because I've worked almost 30 minutes now with no time on. But I wanted just to cover this because we were talking about your
dad, the hospital and everything else. Yeah. We've spent a ton of time over the decades talking about health care in the United States, different health care systems, whatever would actually work. And one of the things about what we said is most people don't experience the health care system. Right. You just don't. You know, we talk about a lot in in Canada about waiting times.
“Even for necessary, you know, surgery. And when you have to see, you know, a specialist,”
how long it will take. And this is when it can be critical. Right. And every year, I think it's
a freezer institute puts out the wait time and for specialists, you know, it can be, in some cases, it can be a year before you see a specialist. And if it isn't urgent, you know, it can be months and months and months and months and months and even if urgent, it could be a month before you could see a specialist for something. Right. So just to recently, my, my primary doctor, my former primary doctor, and he's around my age, the office closed. Yeah. Okay. And they said he was going to continue.
He hasn't continued. And then this was like in June, we were told they were going to, you know, close. And my next, my next appointment was like next week. And so I said, okay, I need to find myself. I need to find, I need to wait to see where he goes because I called the office. I said, no, he's going to continue at another place. So far, nothing. And so you've got to make decisions. And it's stressful. Oh, yeah. I mean, you've been with your doctor for a while. Oh, yeah, over 10
years. Yeah. So I see I've been with my same clinic for almost 30 years. And we've had a long-term
doctor's, you know, and there's been this, I'm on my third one in that clinic now. But it's very
stressful. They, they had thought our insurance actually wasn't going to cover that clinic at one
“point. I remember that stress of just thinking about, oh my gosh, what am I going to do? I got to find”
a doctor. And I know, look, they're very good about adapting to new patients and hey, we've got your records. And let's get you up to speed. Let's have a conversation. That's great. But there's this comfort. And, and I think it goes to morale, but also stress levels in knowing that your doctor knows what's going on and is familiar with your case. Right. And, and like so, I trusted my my former primary doctor. So, what happened was, you know, I just, I had a bunch of different things going on with,
you know, with dad and another friend of mine who was in the hospital didn't even notice I had a prescription that was like a week away had to be refilled. And it's interesting when you know for primary doctor, what do you do? Well, I had to go to an urgent care clinic. And the urgent care clinic will give you one one time for 30 days. And so, the pressures on, you got to find yourself
“a primary doctor. Yeah. And the receptionist at the place I went to said, you need to go to my”
old doctor, you know, he just couldn't retire. He's around your age. He couldn't retire. He's just, so he's back. And, and here's where his offices and his offices right across the street from my favorite breakfast restaurant here in Texas. Right across the street. I mean, 200 feet away and I go, I think this is some kind of karma. All right. So, I go and just so people know, I've got, I'm, I'm a type to diabetic under control. Right. It means my A1C and people are from is not a
seven. You know, it's way below. Most of the time it's in the fives. Still the upper upper five. So I'm fine. Yeah. You know, that's under control. You're not really doing damage to your, your, your organs. And it's something that I've had for 10 years and, and over 10 years now. And I watch it, you know, all the time. I eat right, I exercise. I do all that. It's not death that I'm, I mean, we all wonder about
Death.
If you have type two diabetes, what can happen? Right. My whole goal is never to get close to the
“point of having to get toes cut off. Yeah. Right. You know, we're having a, you know, bad, you know,”
nerve pain or stuff like that. Because you know, I mean, they read me the riot act when I first got it. Yeah. And so, but really, the last 10 years, I've never been in a hospital overnight since I got my tonsils out at like age five or six. Never been in a hospital overnight. So I've been very, very healthy. So my health care the last 10 years has been, you know, and when I first got diabetes, when I first got it, I had to go every three months, then every four months, and then twice a year.
Once they realized I was on the pay because they wanted to monitor, do blood work, everything,
the first couple of years. And, but it was the same doctor that I, that I went to. And so,
that was it the last 10 years. Every six months, I would go and it was very simple. Right. Well, when I found my new primary doctor in there, they're in a health care system, you know, they're a big health care system. Right. Right. In, in the, the state of Texas, you know, with the, on hospital and you know, specialist and everything else. And so I go to the new primary doctor. And of course, they want to start from the very beginning. Sure. And they want to start from
the very beginning because, for example, with, when I say, I've got type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome. And what comes with that is high blood, and it's all genetic. High blood pressure, high cholesterol,
and, and, you know, high blood sugar, you know, from, from the type 2 diabetes. Never had any
problem with cholesterol. It was never really over, either cholesterol wasn't a problem. The high blood pressure was, and so was the, you know, the blood, the blood, the blood sugar couldn't be appropriate and could have been a worse problem. And I also have white coat syndrome. It's totally subconscious. I'm not nervous when I go to the doctor. Yeah. But my blood pressure just goes through the roof. So of course, I didn't know that, by the way, that it was totally
subconscious until I developed it. I was getting a treatment where it required them to, to, to stick a needle literally in my eye once a month in that process. I didn't know it was making me nervous. You know, you don't feel it. You don't feel like your blood pressure is going up at that moment, but I developed it then. And, and what it is is very simple. It's, it's simply your body's defense system. Right. And, you know, something's going on drop of adrenaline in your bloodstream.
“That's what causes it. And then boom, everything just skyrocket. Right. Your body is,”
your body is reacting the way it's supposed to react when it sees a threat even subconsciously. Right. And, and so, of course, I document everything. I mean, I document my blood sugar and what I was doing. I document my blood pressure and tell you what I'm doing because I just don't take my blood pressure when I rest. When I work out real heavily, like I do a 15 mile bike ride. I'll sprint the last mile. As soon as I get home, I leave the bike outside. I walk in the door within 20 seconds.
I'm taking my blood pressure. Yeah. And I set a pattern from, you know, my doctor to see whenever I go in. And I did the same for my primary doctor. It's like, okay, fine, fine, fine. I also have a, so I went to my primary doctor and, and it all went really good. And, his recommendation was to go to see a cardiologist. I think what he heard is something that I've had for decades upon decades, which is what I call PVC, PVC, premature, ventricular contractions,
which if you're a healthy person doesn't affect you at all. It's a little extra heartbeat and mine comes from the bottom of the heart. So, of course, when the new primary doctor sees that, you've got to go to the specialist's cardiologist. So, my point is not to go through because everything's fine. But, you know, the health care system that I've experienced here over the last month, really. No problem getting the new primary doctor. There were a bunch of primary doctors
that I could have got. But I got one recommended by this receptionist. It was able to get an appointment within, now, my doctor, he's, he's, some are retired. So, he only works like Monday and Tuesday. But I was able to get in me. Yeah. I was able to get in the next week. Yeah. Like the next Monday or Tuesday, I was able to get in. Right. So, then he, you know, he sees me and first and then, okay, I need to get my, my, a blood work. He goes, oh, you can do that right
now and I said, I haven't fasted. Okay. Come into tomorrow. Yeah. The blood work. So, it was the next
“day. I got the, the blood work. Meanwhile, he had set up and said, you need to see it, you know,”
I recommend you go see the cardiologist, you know, just because you, everything that you've got,
Whatever, have you ever gotten.
All right. So, that's me with the cardiologist. It was an appointment five days away. Nothing
“is urgent here. And I had to because I was on vacation on a town. I had to make it the next week,”
which was Tuesday of, of this week. So, I go in Tuesday of, of that week. I get in at, my appointments at 10. I get there at 9.35. Soon as 9.35, I go to hit the bathroom. I come out. They're waiting for me. It's five or like 10 to 10. And then nurse comes in and, and she takes the EKG and does all that stuff. I mean, everything she goes, the doctors on the way in here. And, you know, and, and I go, she goes, we are, we apologize. I so much, so much. I look, I go,
it's 9.53. My appointment doesn't begin for another seven minutes. I'm okay. And so, he came in like about seven minutes after 10. A apologizing profusely for being, you know, for being late. He goes, no, I don't like wasting other people. I don't like people wasting my time.
“I don't like wasting other people's time. So, we went over that and everything else. And then, you know,”
again, and he, you know, sees that I've got that extra beat and and says, look, I just recommend it just for a general screening that you go get a, and there are two different procedures really, which is the a cat scan of your heart and and a, and a, and a ultrasound with the calcium test that they take because I suggest you do it. I'm like, I'm okay. Because I want to make sure it's okay, you know, and, and I know it is. Yeah. You know, because I know what my cholesterol level is and
everything else. I know everything, fact, they're not worried. It's just, no, this is basic screening. We want to have a base of where you are right now. And I'm okay with that. Well, they could have done it Monday, but I couldn't do it Monday. And then, well, they had to have a too far apart at the
“same hospital, the two procedures, and they could have done it Tuesday, but I have my regular primary”
doctor's appointment to check up on everything that has been done already, so I'm going in Wednesday. I've gotten, I've gotten at like three different surveys from the hospital system on my primary doctor and the cardiologist and just general, you know, a general survey on my entire experience so far.
And I'm like, wow, competition works. Yeah. That was the first thought I had. Yeah. Competition
works, knowing what the waiting times are in Canada, and there was no emergency here, and everything can be taken care of in a couple of weeks to make sure that I know that everything in my heart, everything is going great. And, you know, my metabolic syndrome type two diabetes and make sure that the plan is in effect. Everybody's in agreement, everybody communicates. Oh, and then on the app, everything, you know, I went in for my blood work. Yeah. Got my blood work done at nine o'clock
by two in the afternoon, the results are coming in and it's on the app. You get to see it. You know, and it's, it's just, it's raw. Yeah. You know, the doctor has him commented on it. Yeah, you get to see it. And then cardiologist, I went in on, it's Thursday. Yeah, Tuesday, I went in, wake up yesterday morning, all of his notes right there on the app. Yeah. Every, every bit of information and very clearly stated, it wasn't done in, you know, medical talk. Yeah. And it had
everything that I had said. Patients said this, Patients said this, said white coat syndrome, but the patient keeps a log of his blood pressure and what he has done and the blood pressure is fine. In fact, you know, it's extremely fine when he doesn't have the, we went to this with my dad and, and he has the app. And he said, he said, let's, uh, because he had his phone, obviously, with him in the hospital. Um, and obviously, but he had his phone with him. And he said, hey,
let's log on to my app and let's look, look at the record. So I want you to help me kind of sort things out. Let's look at the history of where my numbers have been. So he's got everything from his oncologist, his cardiologist, and his primary care physician right there. And also, his current hospital stays updated as they do tests. It's amazing. And he got in as he joked, hey, I need you to bring me every time because he got right in. And there was no wait for him.
And that's not the case in Canada. Well, we always talk about the healthcare system. That is my
experience. Really, the most I've been in the healthcare system in my life, just the last month. Yeah. We are right, I radio. We are right. I radio. He's our crudion. I'm hearing McNamara. Now, the most interesting
Thing though of my whole, you know, being in the medical system here the last...
and just analyzing it and giving you my opinion on how it's been for me so far with the quality of
“care and the timeliness of the care is that the doctor just said to me, he's just said, because”
part of my condition can be affected by coffee. He said, how many cups of coffee a day? And I said, like two when I went, why? You're not going to make, you're not going to take me off coffee, are you? I said, come on. Massive alcohol and drugs. Yeah. Okay. I can handle that being taken off that. You can't touch my coffee. You just burst out laughing. You go, no, no, I just wondered, remember when Letterman had the big heart surgery and he came back and he goes, they put me on
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Welcome in good morning. Thanks so much for being here. Hi. How's everybody doing? They're saying the heat. Is it a dome? Are we under dome? We're in a heat dome. Yes. All right. Did they make a TV show the dome where they put it? That's such a stupid idea. A biosphere with a polyshore. Well, that one was funny. I mean, at least it was being silly, but there was a TV show called the dome. It put the dome over an entire town.
It was weird. I don't think it went, but like a couple of seasons. Cut under the dome. Under the dome, that was it. Copy rock made more sense than that. If you don't know what that is in your two young, just google it. It did exist. It was a musical. It was a musical cop TV show. What are you talking about? Just don't do that.
“Don't, that's a bad idea. Stop doing that. I remember that I was told that when”
cop rock was on, what was that? The '90s? The late '80s? Yeah. Yeah. That a guy I knew had a
cameo in it. So I watched it. He never appeared in the cameo. I never saw it. And I'm like,
you got to be kidding me. This is really bad. I felt like I was like you were twisting my arm to watch that. It was like, God, it was a bad show. But let's get to the big thing here. Bernie Sanders and his 32 hour workweek act. Now what would it do? He's already introduced it into the Senate. It would have Eric working a lot more. The threshold from for a standard workweek would drop gradually over four years. Non-exempt employees would qualify for time and a half
over time pay for any hours after four years, work beyond 32 hours a week. It also mandates time and a half for workdays for eight hours and double pay for workdays exceeding 12 hours. Employees would be legally protected from reducing overall weekly pay rates and employee benefits to make up for the shorter hours. Wage control. Yeah. That's right. Exactly. We're they're going supporters like Bernie Sanders
reintroduces the bill and argues that automation, artificial intelligence and massive surges and worker productivity over recent decades should benefit working families rather than just corporate profits. Well, that would have been automatically.
Yeah, right. But you're it's what we've always said. You can't change economics. No.
If the government forces companies because this would go way beyond AI and th...
companies where no, AI is not going to affect them. Well, it's because here's what happens in the
“same way. And just and just off the top of my head, one of the very basic moves that would happen”
is all right. This would be a non-exempt employee, some employees or there is a salary actually level at which if they make that or above, then and they are salaryed, then they are exempt from overtime. For me, I get under time. They take money back because I don't show up every day. But the the thing with the overtime is what they can do for the employee. The employers can say, okay, here's what we'll do. We're going to just where our salaries are for certain roles and stay
within the exemption range. If this is one of the options. And then we're going to have we're going to assign more duties to those individuals. Along with that, what you bring up.
AI has been around automations been around for generations. And there had been, it's always this,
oh, it's going to kill the jobs. We've been joking about the ATM comment from Obama years ago that it was, it was responsible for the loss of so many jobs. But if you think about it, companies have adjusted. And since abilities change during those adjustments by the consumer who patronizes those businesses, one great example is fast food. Because some of the move in some states and areas, we're going to, well, we're going to, and the unions, we're behind
this. But we're going to raise in liberals or behind, raising both fast food workers $15 an hour,
it's $20 an hour, which by the way, sounds archaic, why not $100 an hour. And then so you go in
and there is a McDonald's between here and my parents house, which is the halfway point in the
“two-hour road trip. And I stop in there frequently and I'll never forget the day I walked in there”
and they had a lot more kiosks unless seating in there. And so people will come in and they'll order on the kiosk. Also, what I've noticed is at drive through isn't, you know, when you do road trips and I've done a few in the past week, you have to pull through and they're using AI to take your order completely. The AI and it gets everything right and, you know, on the screen, you got to check it, double check it, you know, is everything right and it responds. And then the crew can work.
Someone told me, and I don't know what the number is, but they had like a dozen people would be running any one shift at a fast food place. It's nowhere near that anymore. Yeah, there are some exceptions in and out burger. It seems like they have hundreds of employees,
“but it's a full army. But, and that's why they're going to take off Sunday.”
Exactly. They're tired. But of course, they also recognize people have faith still today. And, and they honor that. But you think about this. You think about the, what, what is it that company says you mentioned as we've talked about for years? The government lawmakers cannot come in and change and force the market to do something without the market going, okay, we have an answer and response to that. Right. It's like minimum when you, when you raise the
minimum wage, when you see the drastic raises of minimum wage, you see fewer workers. Right. I mean, it's just the reality of it. We all know that it happens. Democrats used to pretend it doesn't happen. You can manipulate an economy. You can government can manipulate an economy. They can do certain things, you know, when we talk about tariffs in general. Right. I see that manufacturing
employment's up a little bit here. We're still down overall from when Trump took over, but it's gone up since January of this year. And you look at where it's gone up in manufacturing. It's all steel and aluminum related, which is protecting the American, you know, which is protecting American manufacturing of steel and aluminum products. Right.
The cost of those products is way up, which affects every American company,
not related to that that uses those products to build, you know, to build their things. So
“you can't get away from it. You're still rewarding some and punishing others. Right.”
And in this particular case, you're doing the exact same thing. You're saying, well, if you've got the job now, we'll protect you. Sorry if you're somebody who comes in after that person. You're going to be at 32 hours a week and you're going to have to work 232 hour a week jobs in order to survive. An interesting thing that relates to all of this, well, street journal looking at the the latest census numbers. And we told you the other day that real wages,
you know, what you make per hour have not kept up with inflation over the last year. And all of a sudden, you look at it and they're talking about the census bureau, which says, well, yeah, but median income is up even at inflation adjusted. But you know, why? Why is medium income up? And as they point out here, here you go. One reason Americans are working
longer. The number of men working full-time grew by 1.3 million and 800,000 for women,
however, the total number of workers increased by just 230,000 for men and 130,000 for women. So the vast majority of those are people that are, you know, that are working more hours. That's why they're overall wages are beating inflation. They're getting new second jobs. They're getting
“my right. They're getting second jobs. They're working longer hours. That's why the pay is up.”
That's just the reality of of of of economics. But if you believe that long-term working 32 hours instead of 40 is going to benefit you where it counts long-term in the pocket book, it may for some, but you're going to have a ton of others where it does not. And you're going to have a lot of people working to 32 hour jobs or 32 hour job at another 16 hour job to make it because you cannot cut. You know, you may have productivity in AI. It doesn't mean that companies
will ignore the productivity of human labor. Right. And if you take human labor and you say, we're going to make it less productive because we're taking away eight hours a week. When you
“think about it, you're taking a day off. Yeah, you're doing your making it basically a four-day”
work week from a five, not because the company wishes to do it, but because government has mandated it, which means you will lose 20% of that productivity of the human labor. Yeah, there are going to be consequences because of that because companies are going to look, they're not going to sit there and say, hey, you know, AI is making it so we're more productive here. Therefore, let's become less productive over here. Well, that, you know, economics doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way.
And they, you know, with that exemption level, there was some fluctuation, they were looking out there. They were going to come in and change where that exemption level was going to be,
basically, of how much you could pay or how little you could pay a person in terms of a salary
where they would not be qualified for overtime. And you look at that and go, okay, but the person, right, if companies then come in and say, all right, what we'll do is as we hire on new people that they, if we were to go with this Bernie plan, we're going to have them take on more roles and we'll keep them at the bottom level of that just above the exemption level. But there won't be, you know, if we have to get, if we're productive in that way and have to get
competitive, we can start raising that pay. But they'll make that adjustment. Now, people will do what they have to do and their personal lives and either stay at that job or go work another job on the side or get a new job altogether. There's the, the, it will, there will be the shifts. But there is not this magic wand communist wand that Bernie can wave. This is Bernie trying to be
Relevant again.
Yeah, the wand in sickle exactly. That's what's on the flag, the Bernie flag. But if you, if you look at it,
this is not the first time they've tried to do this. Well, we need to get the government needs to
basically determine what the value of any labor role is. The government can't do that. Only the free market can do it. Minimum wage should be zero. Zero. Now, no one's going to work for zero. I mean, the revolving volunteers. I've, I've volunteered. You volunteer. People volunteer for nonprofits or causes. But we're not going to do that for living because it's not a living. So, I should be able to bid on a job. I should be able to,
if I'm applying for a job, hey, give me a two week try out and then let's determine what I'm worth. And then if you offer me something, I can live with great. If not, I'll move on. When, when the government comes in and sets these, well, it's got minimum wage. Minimum wage.
“Minimum, it's, it's, it's wrong to pay them anything less than that. But what are you talking about?”
Nothing is a living wage. A living wage. A hundred thousand a year. You're going to pay somebody a hundred thousand a year. You know, looking at these big cities. Look out and L.A. in San Francisco. You're going to live on, you're going to have to have eight roommates. Yeah. When you, when you look at the cost of living in California, the minimum wage should be a hundred dollars an hour. If exact Democrats really cared about people, right? If you make it a living wage, right?
Make a living wage. It sounded, it sounded, it now it sounds archaic when they say, minimum wage should be fifteen dollars per fifteen. Who's working? By the way, my four oldest granddaughters all working. All of them make far above fifteen dollars an hour. Well, and I'm
“jealous. And remember, minimum wage is what? Seven thirty five. Yeah. Right. In tech. Minimum wage doesn't matter.”
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At the same time, the number of workers with the college degree or higher last year increased by
1.8 million while their median earnings declined 1.1%. Wow. By contrast, earnings for high-school
“grads increased 5.5%. Remember, inflation 3.4. Yeah, right. So, if you had a college degree, you”
got killed. Yeah. If you're a high school grad, increased 5.5%, this seems to be more evidence that too many young people are still going to college and not enough are training for trades
That pay well.
so that's why we're not 5.5%, beating inflation in a year by 2.1, that's huge. You don't see that,
“you don't see that happening too much and so, but it all, you know, evens out. So, it's really”
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and in essence is what she has said. And then the numbers came out, the ratings for 60 minutes, and everybody was on it. Drop 21 percent. Last year's premier, 10 million. This year's only
8 million, roughly. I'm running it off. Right. And it shows the incredible failure. You know,
“that's, I mean, the analysis. Right. Right. I think those numbers are great.”
That's true. Don't know. Day one, I think those numbers are, and this isn't, this isn't propaganda. I have said all along. I don't know what she's going to do, because you're going to lose anybody on the left, a significant portion of people on the right just have not watched 60 minutes. Right. Right. And my point always has been that, are they going to go back to CBS? Are they going to sit there and say, well, you know, I haven't watched 60 minutes in 10 years,
Are 20 years.
I don't, but I'm sleeping. And unless it's a special interview that I'll watch later on, you know, that I can, that I can find online, because it relates to the show, then, then I'll watch it. But I've not watched 60 minutes. Oh, my gosh. Since the 90s, even without our schedule being the way it is, I wouldn't be watching it today. Well, that goes again with with two exceptions. The 90s goes way before I started this show.
And so I, I look at it and say, I didn't know where the, their audience was going to be. And the, and the point is, it's much like if you have a, a, a, you know, a radio station that changes format, they, they were, they were country for the longest time. And then decided to go soft AC, all Michael Bolton all the time. Well, you're going to see a significant loss.
But on the first week, or the first couple of weeks, or the first month, if you see,
oh my gosh, we only have at a 20% loss. And, you know, we've got this base of an audience to start from. I would view that as being a success in rebuilding. I mean, think about how teams rebuilding and sports. What, the Cowboys, I mean, you're very familiar with the rebuilding.
“It's, it's taken 30 years. It's 30, it's over 30 years now. But you need to remember.”
It's a slow process. Remember the bills, just to, you know, throw the arrows my way. Yeah. The bills didn't make the playoffs for 17 years. By the way, Dad said today, as I was, as I was leaving, he said, hey, listen, when all this is over and we transition back to, you know, a normal, whatever, normal. He says, tell you what, we're not going to talk about doctors, medical charts, medications, and I said, or the Cowboys. And it goes, or the Cowboys.
Yeah. But we're building a show like 60 minutes. I mean, and trying to get a wider audience, you're going to have to get them. You're going to have to earn them back. You're going to have to, who not back. You're going to have to earn them all over again, because if you think about it,
“a generation is passed of, especially, I think, maybe moderate and right-landing, or just anyone”
who wants actual journalism, we said this about, as you mentioned, Barry Weiss, what a Everest of a mountain that she has to build here or rebuild. And we don't know how you populate a newsroom in today's world with actual real journalists, because there aren't many. She's, she's one of very few that we know of. But in that process, you're going to have to earn that audience. You're going to have to get them back and, or, or, or new viewers, however, you're going
to do that, but that's going to take time. Well, there was, there was a couple of stories over the last month or so that hit on the Trump administration. It was like, yeah, people are shocked, that Barry Weiss actually, that she allowed the Trump administration to be attacked. She's not a Trump supporter. No. No. Even though she said where the Democrats have gone,
“she might vote for Trump. Remember that she had that? I remember she wrote that with one piece,”
you know, Trump was right. I got it wrong and Trump was right on, I forget it on, right,
but what it was. But her point was never to be a, and that the Democrats were trying to, you know,
that's what they were trying to promote. This is going to be a network that supports Trump. Yeah. That was never the case of what she was promoting. She was promoting. We're going to be a news. We're, you know, we're going to criticize people when they need to be criticized. And we'll write stories, you know, that both sides aren't the times going to like, but there is should be no, I'm not shocked at anything that she has done when I view that she has, that they have
done an unfair story. Just like anyone, you know, we'll point it out. If Fox, we believe Fox did a terrible job. We'll point it out. We'll point out if Newsmax does a terrible job on something. We'll point out any news organization, if they do a bad job yesterday, we had Fox, what do we had Fox for? Oh, the, what was the story? Oh, on the woman with the knife trying to sneak out. Oh, yeah,
yeah, we had fun with that one. Yeah. But, you know, she was never going to be, there was never
going to be. She wasn't changing CBS into a newsmax. No. And anybody who thought that was
Never going to be the case.
know if the audience is there when you're promoting, we're, look, we're going to be criticizing both sides here. You know, if they deserve being criticized and but we're not going to be political activists, we are going to do news. And my point is bringing, you know, Republicans in, Republicans made the switch such a long time ago where they're set with what they're doing on a Sunday night. Yeah. If they're going to watch politics, it's going to be Fox, it's going to be newsmax,
it's going to be whatever, you know, whatever they're looking at online, whatever podcast they're watching, if on Sunday night, politics in that time is what they have gone to since, you know, 60 minutes, as we believe, became a much more of a political activist show, not a new show. Right.
“And our thing was, can she bring them back? And remember, she's not a conservative.”
Right. She's basically still a liberal who believes in it. Go, you know, we, I, I would
know where to tell her where to go. So the fact that they've got 80% of their audience may not be an audience, if it's a new audience, that's the whole point you'd have to find out with your market research. Yeah. Is it new audience? Is it, you know, are the numbers going to be this good? And I view those numbers as good just for a month or two, because people are curious. You know, is it? Well, that even is there an audience for it overall? Right. You know,
we talked about this when John Malone from the discovery group, he's an executive, he's a big executive and owns, he's been in, he's been a medium-old for a long time. But when they talked about taking over CNN and they were about to make that deal or close that deal. And, and he said,
“you know, look, I think CNN should go back to the headline news and you and I, John,”
and said, "Barring." Because that's not what people want. I, I'm, I know what he was trying to say that there should be real news. But the fact is, is that many people have been, I don't, I don't know, retrain whatever you want to say, but their sensibilities have changed to the extent that they want some kind of brand that leans either right or left on their news. Now, real journalism,
I've said it for years, plays a critical role in a free society. And I would hope that if this
is going to be done right, that it would earn a very large audience for that reason. And it should be. It doesn't matter who's in office. It doesn't matter who these individuals vote for. It doesn't matter who Eric and Gary vote for. If we don't like what they're doing, we will tell you. And if you don't know that, it means you haven't been listening to this show for very long.
“And this is, we're not journalists. We're opinion givers. We're, that's what we do. But in”
journalism, it should be the truth. There should be, it should be getting the truth to the American people. And I don't know what that looks like and how you do that. I don't know how Barry Wiser anybody else does that in 2026 or beyond. Well, when you look at, for example, what CNN did, and CNN, you know, bringing out Scott Jennings bringing on, uh, Sher Michael Singleton and, and we'll, they'll bring on, you know, Republicans and conservatives
to have the arguing back and forth. Right. America doesn't want to hear that. Yeah. Because they haven't responded to that. Now, Scott Jennings, I haven't seen a lot of him lately. There have been a lot of viral clips from him. He's still there. It's CNN. But I just haven't seen the clips in a week's, uh, you know, great clip from him that that's being promoted on, on, on social media. Now, the clips on YouTube do great or on X, you know, when those clips are there,
but the overall, you know, the show itself ratings, that really. Now, you know, you haven't really seen it. My point is, and, and I'll, I'll even say this about the whole 60 minutes thing, is it as simple as the fact that as long as you have the NFL introducing you and you've got
18 to 20 million people watching that Sunday afternoon game, no matter what, there's going to be
enough people to watch 60 minutes and keep it going and have people be at least inquisitive as to what's happening because you have such a massive lead in, and that's where it comes to real
Estate.
always tuning into your network, does that in itself mean you can put anything on after the NFL,
and you're going to do decently, whether it has a liberal spin, a little bit of a, uh, more conservative
“spin, or a, you know, straight, new show, are you still going to be healthy in some kind of audience?”
I guess we'll see over the next six months as to where their ratings go on it, but when you have the NFL, lead in as you will till February, and so far, I think the Wednesday game didn't
perform as well as last year's Thursday's game, but I think the Sunday night game was through the
roof. Yeah, they didn't say the, didn't they say the college, the giant scan. Yeah, that was, that was through the roof because, and that that's because the Dallas Cowboys are hopeless and America, that's their mood right now. Yes, they want to watch America's team suffer because they just like watching suffering. This is so, this is so much fun being a ghost fan right now. All right, we are right, I radio coming up more with Gary McNamara and Eric Carley. It's right, I radio.
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“my son, my daughter, I think I don't know both of my daughters went or all three of my daughters went.”
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