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Everybody, what's going on?
Rob, sister, you know, back with you to talk about House of Villains using three episode seven. Where's Akiva? Oh my god, season three episode seven. Okay, put your super beds together and get your nutsack's ready.
And your 60-nining puppets, 'cause it's time for another week of House of Villains, and now you're with us to talk about it. It's Chappelle, Chappelle, how are you? I'm feeling villainous, I'm feeling good. Or bad, I don't know, I guess it's feeling villainous good.
I guess in this sense, it is. Yeah, but I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying this roller coaster. I'm a little annoyed, a little annoyed by the end of this episode, but other than that, we're having a good time here. Yeah, I know, what are you going to do?
“And here with us to talk about it all, it's Jenny, autumn, Jenny, how are you?”
I'm good, Rob. I'm a little disappointed that my squirrel costume was at the dry cleaner, so I couldn't wear it tonight. It was really feeling inspired by the costumes. Would you believe that I had a squirrel?
I'm so glad when you bring your nutsack. Yeah, it's really important, that's the way. Yeah, I keep it over here. Where are you, Mom? Mom?
Yes. Yes. I think. All right. We're going to talk about everything from just week where it was Kate's world,
and everybody was living in it, where what a run that Kate is on, as she's really dominated this middle portion of the game. As a stand, I could not be happier. I just, I'm so used to giving, and now it's time for me to receive. Jenny will tell you of all the nervousness we had during the preseason interviews.
I was like, I don't know Jenny, I don't know how we're going to talk to Paul. I really don't know how we're going to talk to Tyson. I'm afraid of Rita, but Kate, I felt like we connected. I feel like that's my person. She is my person.
I am her person. We get each other. And so to see her in her challengebees era, but also in her strategic era as well. If she wins this season, I'm going to be unbearable.
You're never going to hear me shut up about it.
I love this one so much. It's, it's crazy to see like people that we love warring with each other. But at, like, you know, obviously we have some rooting interests here and there, but it's really fun getting to see Kate dominate. And just really plays such a unique villain game where she is being a villain.
And she's also gaming. She's kind of playing a well-rounded villain game. I feel like because being a villain on the show can mean different things. And I feel like Kate might be the most well-rounded actual villain that this show has seen three seasons in.
Maybe too soon to say that, I don't know, I just feel like she's kind of bringing it from every angle. This is it. This is what we're looking for. Rob, this lady is such a villain that she got Tyson shook, Tyson is hiding from Kate throughout
this episode. It's so good.
“Well, she's so atypical in terms of how she approaches things where I think that most”
villains, they want it worse than the other person. There, you know, when we talk about villains and other TV shows and movies, it's like, they are willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish their goals. And sometimes they even have goals that are admirable, but they're willing to do things to accomplish what they want that nobody else is willing to do.
Kate is not that. Kate does not even seemingly want to be on the show. Any reason that she has to continue on with the show is just to spite the other contestants that she doesn't like. Is that not the best villainous motivation of all time is just like, I'm here because
I don't like y'all and I want to make it life worse for y'all. I don't even necessarily want to win, but I'm driven by vengeance at this point. To me, that is a true villain, right? It's not about winning the game. It's not about other.
I mean, it's how do I make everybody else's life more miserable?
And this isn't the first time we've seen Kate like this.
Look, that guy Kate's time on the traders, right?
“They're like, please, can we get rid of this woman?”
She's like, please get rid of me. But while I'm here, I'm going to be such a brat about this day and to y'all are going to hate me. Again, I love this woman so much. I think that although she's saying she doesn't want to win, I can't really quibble with
a lot of her strategic choices. I don't know what she's going to do after this episode, but right now, she's locked in.
She's not being snowed by these more seasoned game players, like Tyson.
And there's a few things that have happened that she's been really dialed in on it. She's making really good connections, and so all she is driven by spite and revenge and pettyness, the outcomes are our outweighing all of that because she's doing really well in the game. So I felt like that Kate really gave you the complete, like, ethos of Kate as a character
in the scene where she's with Paul and Paul is trying to talk to, she's like, get to it. Just tell me. And then he's talking and then she basically cuts him off to say, like, listen, you're with me until you piss me off, that's it. It's not simple.
That's simple. Yeah, I feel like she has something that I thought kind of worked for New York, strategically in previous seasons where like, people are also kind of afraid of her, so she gets allies by just being like, I don't want to poke the bear. And please know that this, this means a lot coming from me because I adore Miss New York,
but Kate is kind of taking it to, but Kate is kind of taking it to the next level because she is keeping people on her side out of fear and also winning, getting herself in a position to make moves and is actually doing, like, able to do something with that fear of her.
It's very, very powerful.
Like wanting to win just so that other people that you hate can't win is so funny. It's really what is driving Kate here.
“And yeah, like, I think that the only person in this house that really isn't like a”
afraid of her or like somewhat intimidated by her is Drieda, she might be a little front of her. But Drieda, like, I feel like, I mean, she's mentioning, she's like, she's gangster. Like, back to that woman's gangster. And so it's like, I think it's maybe more of like a respect than a fear, but it's also
just like a slightly fearful respect. Where's like, everyone else is also just like, I don't know what to do with you. You are terrifying. Because there's just no BS, like, she's like cut the crap Paul, like, just tell me, like, yeah, we're good.
Like, she is not paying lip service to anyone. However, I do think that from, you know, a gameplay standpoint, there is something that she might have missed.
“You know, it's all funny games when people are pissing you off, right?”
Like, okay, now I have a reason to put you up, but I was going to talk about this last week with three nominees having to go up on the block. You only have so many enemies right now. She has a ton of allies and that third spot has to be filled by somebody. She told Paul, point blank, I'm not putting you up.
So if that is the truth, we're looking at either New York, Drita, or Christine to go up on the block here. And those are not only her allies, but these are people who are willing to work with her and that maybe like her a lot and kind of respect her. I think that kind of, that is the thing that you will look at people and say, all right,
well, maybe I don't trust you as much, right? Because I think Christine says, we're all together New York and Kate are roommate. And you know, you put New York up, uh, I don't know.
I don't, I don't, I don't, God bless you, and then of course, and then she would never put
up Drita, right, because God bless you. So I, yeah, I'm very concerned with her after this, but to this point, Kate has been so fun to watch and watching her learn the game on the fly has been fun to. Do you think that maybe if we're going to start to explore who she could put up on the block, uh, do you think that maybe Paul ultimately does end up being the third person
in that she could say to him, like, hey, we need somebody that's going to stop Tyson from
“winning the, what, what do they call the challenge to get back in?”
Redemption. Redemption challenge, which, uh, Tyson, uh, as one, the edge of extinction challenge, uh, to get back to him. So I like who are you going to put into the challenge that's going to beat Tyson?
Here's, okay. Here's what I think. This is, this is just what I, because we're all, we
obviously get a cliffhanger at the end of the episode. The, we don't know who the third nominee is going to be. I think that, if Kate was following that rationale, uh, rob them, yes, that is the, the good choice is to, is to put up Paul and just be like, the target is Tyson. He's already won one redemption challenge, but you are, uh, a really good competitor, and I need to put someone there that has a chance to beat him so we can finally
get him out. Sure. However, she did literally already tell him that he wasn't going up, and I do think
That to an extent, Kate is a woman, like, a woman of her word.
she's going to go back on it. I actually think that Kate has done an excellent job
by talking a lot about how the third nominee is unnecessary. It's just out of process.
She doesn't even like that she has to do it. That she's really hammered home ahead of time that whoever is the third nominee don't take it personally. It means nothing one of
“these two are going home. And I think my feeling is, is that she's going to, to pick the”
person that I think is going to be the most in constant question, in consequential to her game by putting them up, and I think it's going to be Christine. And I think I think it's a good move because I think what she says is, I am putting up someone that I know will not go home next to one of these guys. You compliment her by being like, everyone else
here is going to vote to keep you over Tyson or Tom. I didn't want to put up another person
and risk something crazy going on and perhaps someone taking them out. Christine, you are there by process only. And I actually think that that's the best move because you're right. You do not want to piss off Trida or New York here. And you did promise Paul. So I think that that's
“probably the right move. And I do, I do really feel like that's what Kate's going to do here.”
Is Tyson her target or is Tom her target? Tyson is definitely the target. He's definitely target. She likes Tom. But she's just like, if we can get rid of Tyson, we can pull Tom over to our side, even tighter. Where is he going to go? Is he going to go work a pop? I mean, even if he does, what are they going to do? Just the two of them? We don't think that Tom has any real alliance with Trida or with Christine. So yeah, leaving Tom in the game is great for Kate. She has a good
work in relationship with Tom. And if anything, the wedge between her and Tom is Tyson. And it's very clear that if Tyson wasn't there, she would have aligned with Tom even earlier. Yeah, I don't think that she's going to necessarily want to pull Tom back in. It might depend. Like if I think she wants Tyson gone and I think that she feels like Tyson is like about influence on Tom and that, you know, you're a bad influence on Tom's sand of all on Tom's sand of all. This is nice guy.
Only one, only one spoken four man in this house has locked lips with another lady here. And it's not Tom's sand of all. All right. It's a loyal guy. He's a loyal guy. He's the bad influence.
“So yeah, I think that it's really clear that that's what Kate wants to happen. And I think that she's”
kind of like close the book on Tom and has decided like you chose, you chose this path and you've let this guy, you know, do things against me. So you're no good to me anymore. I think that Tom's sand of all is probably dead to her. All right. Let's go back through everything from this hour of house villains and really so much drama over the letter that Joel dropped off at the end of the episode when he came by and put this booby trap out there. The cursed letter which really was going to
determine who was going to end up on the shopping block on the hit list. It was ultimately
Tyson who finds it first. And then I wonder, was it worse for people who got the letter after Tyson that they were on the hit list or that Tyson had the letter in his ass? Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. He did tuck that away where for a safe keeping. Yeah, um, well, this isn't unlettered. This isn't unlocked Tyson. You know, he's definitely stuff things in his crotch, you know, because you wouldn't be able to tell if there was a bullet tonight.
You wouldn't be able to know. So if Tyson got a little ass on him, no one's going to really look at that letter and think, okay, um, I think he has something. I think that it's a choice. I definitely wouldn't want to open it, but they didn't know. They tried. They didn't know. Tom probably wouldn't even mind in a weird way. I think him and Tyson are just bonded like that. Now, or at least I did when Tyson gave Tom the letter to open up. Well, Tom didn't seem to mind
that he was going to go on the hit list. I feel like that Tyson was trying to explain to him like what's going to happen to you if you open the letter. He's like, I'll be the judge of that. Yeah. Now we'll be in this together. Now we're officially back because now we put we shared this curse. It's interesting. It's interesting. You know, in the moment it was like he was bestowing it
Apart like two to bequee thing, if you will, to Tom, to basically be like, th...
you if you open it. I'm going to give it to you. You can decide what you want to do with it.
“I don't even think Tyson said you should open it. He basically told him this is what happens”
if you open it, but we need to pass it on to somebody else and have them be like, I need to see it. Yeah. I mean, he couldn't help himself. Tom is just a curious little kitten. Well, do you blame Tom? He hasn't reasoned not to trust Tyson. And so Tyson is saying, hey, transparent, this is definitely something you don't need to open. If I'm Tom's thinking, okay, I could trust him in this moment, but should I? Should I really take his word for it?
Or is Tyson trying to double bluff me? If Tyson's saying like, oh, definitely don't open this thing. I promise you it is not good for you. So I'll check it out. And then if it is bad for me, if I do an opponent list, at least Tyson and I are in this together, like the brothers that we are, you know, we see them as a very compromising positions in this episode. And I don't think they would want to any different. He was so happy. He's given it to us. Yeah. What is going on?
I don't think as much as I am enjoying, you know, budding, gamer, squirrel, Tom, sand of all. I don't believe that he was, I need to look at this to make sure that Tyson isn't lying to me. He is like, I see thing I need to see thing. Like, I don't want to,
like shiny toy. Like he can't help himself. So I like, I think ultimately he does trust Tyson at this
point. And it was just about the fact like, well, I want to read it for myself. I'm going to get rid of it. I'm going to give it to somebody else. You know, he's an impulsive person, I would say. And so as soon as he knew that there was a thing to open, all of us were off. He was going to open it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So they, uh, I thought the letter was itself was everyone. It's like,
“congratulations. You opened it in the envelope. That's what it sounded. It's a death sentence. Yeah.”
A sentence that puts you on a hit list. A literal death sentence. Yeah. Okay. So then they try to figure out what to do next. And so they end up with that Kate is, uh, the person that Tyson wants to read it,
but Tom wants to warrant Kate. Not to read it. Mm-hmm. And they put the envelope down
and put in plain sight. And then said, okay, well, now let me go find Kate and make sure that she doesn't want to read it. That she doesn't read it. She beats them to it. And of course, because of the way they're acting, she's like, I knew it. I knew I couldn't trust Tom's end of all and Tyson. I don't think it. Oh, Tom. He's trying so hard to be loyal and all this other stuff. And it's just backfire in on him. Was he really trying? I think if he wasn't, the show is
pretty honest about giving us flashbacks and, you know, the shots of the, I think if he wasn't, this show would definitely be like, Tom is like, you know, but this made it look like he was checking room to room, room to room. And he just didn't get there in time. He's saying pretty
“sincere about liking Kate. Yeah. No, I truly believe that he was not like, he was not looking”
to screw Kate here. Like, in Tom's mind, it's like, he's got these friends. And he just is trying to get all of his friends together. He sincerely was kind of like, okay, let's get Kate in on this and decide who we're going to get to, to open this. Um, and like, how big is this house? Like, how is it so hard to find somebody? It was, we could even see that I think maybe she's in a bathroom or something because like on the screen, it like pointed to where Kate was as
in this connection. He just gives up so easily. Like, oh, well, I guess she's gone forever. Do you think that Tom felt like, well, maybe once she opens the letter, then now we're all in this together. Now, like, we'll work together to figure who we're going to get the letters to next. No, I don't, I don't think so. I don't think that's an awful idea. If you can help somebody get that off the back and, and have no claim to it, you know, but because they don't get to take Kate
and time. And it does look like they're very invested in her opening it or at least they'll not opening it. Um, yeah, I think she very clearly saw through them that they had something to do with it. And they, again, they weren't doing each, each other in any favors. There's a moment when Kate's downstairs with the envelope, and they're peeking over the rail. She, did she opening it? Are they going to, did you not open it? Anybody open it? So, hey, I don't really know what's going
on, but I know you two are involved. And good on Christine, Christine, almost picked it up. She says, Tyson has grabbed literally every other thing in this house that existed. And now all of a sudden, Tyson doesn't want to touch the letter, shenanigans. And she walks off, gone. Yeah. That was the best game read Christine has had pretty good. The entire game. She is spitting truth there, so. Yeah.
Then it ends up what falling off the balcony.
I don't know who to give it to. So I'm just going to throw this thing on Kate, please. Please.
And that game, I thought Dreadu was going to pick it up. Well, this is where I think that if Tom and Tyson, more so Tom, because I think in Tyson's mind, like, he needs to let Tom do what he wants to do, because he's in the business of keeping Tom happy now. And so if Tom wants to get
“Kate on his side, like, that's what he's going to let him do. But Tyson's also kind of like,”
if, hey, if Kate ends up on the hit list, that wouldn't be too bad. But if they, if Tom, more so was really concerned about trying to actually warn Kate, you, you wait. You make sure you get her and then you say, okay, now we've all opened it. We need to strategically decide who we want to end up with it, because the more people that find out about it, they're going to warn other people.
So we need to keep this between the three of us and figure out ultimately who we want to end up with
the with this. And Tom just said, oh, well, well, like, that was what needed to happen. But on the other hand, Kate kind of does the same thing where she's like, well, there's no point in trying to get anyone else to open this right now. Like, she said, New York is sleeping, who knows where Paul is? I don't know, maybe go try to find Paul. Like, you know that this, this is someone who will open it.
“Yeah. Like, that's what she was warning him. Oh, yeah. But not, yeah. He hasn't did that point.”
You go warn him. Yeah. But even then, what did she supposed to do walk outside with the envelope and go, Paul, you should open this. He's on the phone with his mom. Yeah, she didn't care that. Yeah, she throws it. Dreader, Dreader, Rob, to your point. I don't, I love Dreader as a character. And I, and I haven't figured out if she's leaning into this, my wife's character, or is she just a my wife's character? Because she said, yeah, I wasn't
opening that envelope because that's male fraud. And I, and I, I ain't crazy. You know how they're like, wait, what is, is she really, it sounds like a joke. Yes. But also knowing her background, there's also another moment where she says something like, yeah, this must be karma from all the people I beat up in my dad. I was like, it's a joke or a deep dead ass area's like, Dreader cracking skulls. And so when she gets to envelope, she says, yeah, I prefer believer. You see
“something like that. You might your own business. You stay out of it. Oh, okay. Well, I believe her.”
And she was locked into. She saw them watching her. So there was no reason for her to open it. She just felt like if, if they weren't watching her so closely, if they weren't so invested in her opening it, she probably, she could have, but her mobster ties have taught her differently. I'd like to talk about Dreader. Might have like the best strategy. There is for House of Villains. And I'd love to see if you two can poke the hole in it where Dreader's strategy seems to be,
well, I went to the start of the drama. But she's going to at least not win super villain. She's somehow managed to stay up the hit list. And then she's going to vote for whoever is going home. And she has somehow maybe hacked the game where the jury's going to come back.
And the one person that they're always going to like is Dreader.
Especially because that's been kind of, you know, one of the, you could say issues with the show is that like, oh, it's about being a villain and then ultimately people end up voting for who they like the most. And like this strategy literally gets talked about in, you know, like Meta style in this, in this episode. It's, it's actually a thing though. It's like it's the sort of thing where I, here's, here's a thing. It is a strategy. It is a good strategy. Obviously in most social
strategy games that involve a jury format. Being a liked person nine times out of ten is just better in terms of like, that is a better shot to win than like having the best moves or whatever. Like we've seen at time time again. And it seems that house of villains is no different. So having a lot of friends that look at you and aren't like feeling like that person screwed me is is a helpful thing. However, in Dreadas explanation about, you know, voting to keep Johnny voting to keep playing
Jane voting to keep Jackie. Those were all valid things too. Like where it's like she's not necessarily bullshitting. They're like, she did like all of those people and did have a good relationship
With those people.
with the house. So it's like, I think that she is being authentic to her, but it also is working out really well for her. Yeah, it's working out right now. She just needs the majority of the votes, right? We've seen this on survivor. We've seen this on Big Brother. Just because your alliance gets decimated. And as long as they don't blame you, they're saying, okay, let me vote for my friend. She was playing hard. And she stayed loyal to me. And so I'm going to repay her by being on the
same type of alliance that I was the same time that I was on. Now, it's easy right now when you have these house targets, essentially, you know, with Johnny, nobody really love Johnny playing. Okay, fine. You know, but when you get down to, okay, what happens when it's Kate, you know, on the chopping block. And, you know, she votes. She votes out the other direction instead of voting Kate. Really right? Does she lose Kate to vote right there? Tyson obviously sees through this. Does he respect
it if she's not completely, if she's always doing the same exact move, Tom and Tyson are kind of
tied together. So, this Tom going to go with the flow that Tyson goes with, you know, we don't
“know how Christine's going to vote. So, if they see that, you know, she's not loyal. And I think that's”
the biggest issue here. Because Drew, we'll get to the end and say, I was loyal. But if you never stood for anything the whole time where you loyal, and I don't know if she can articulate that like a seasoned gameplay around, like I think some people could do it about. Well, I think that may be coming from the mob lives background where she's sort of like, you know, in my family, we're loyal, you know, I think she could really play that up of like, hey, I was loyal to the people.
I ain't no rat. I ain't going to flip. No snitching. Yeah, I'm not wearing a wire.
We would never have to worry about Drew to snitching, right? That's just one thing that you don't,
but at the same time, you know, at one point or another, New York is going to end up on the block. Christine is going to end up on the block. Kate's going to end up on the block. And they're all in her alliance, you know, right now, I think the Charlie's Angels alliance of Drew to Kate and Christine are doing well, but you got to pick somebody eventually. And that means you can, you can I be loyal to everybody in this game. You got to have to burn somewhere at some point or another.
And the people might lose respect for it. But right now, she seems like she's unstoppable. They can't figure out a way to throw her off because she's just going to do what she wants to do. I also think there's like an element of feeling like in order to gain the respect of the people that are
“voting, you need to have at least seen some sort of adversity. And so the fact that if she can get to”
the end without getting put on the hillist and I'm trying to think mathematically if that's possible, I'm like blanking on how we how we get to the end because we're running short of numbers. And if we
have to put three people up all the time. But like if she's never in a position of power and she's
also just like never really at risk, our people just being like, yeah, it was easy to be beloved by people because you were never in a position where you had to like screw anyone. And you were never, you were pretty safe the entire time. So other people that had to fight, you know, their way off of the hit list or they had to like, you know, piss people off might be like, I'm not rewarding that. Like we all had to like be villains and get our hands dirty. Like I could
see a scenario where that is someone someone's rationale against Rita. But also it is as simple as like she could be next to two people that they just don't want to reward because they're like,
“you you think you should win. So I don't want you to win. Like it's not simple.”
Rob, Rob, it's very Dr. Will. You know, just like, uh, I'm, you know, I'm just going to make friends with the people and I'm going to talk my shit and I'm never going to win. And so you can never blame me for anything. You also got each other and I mean, Dr. Will and then Dr. Edo. What did it about? Was it worth it? Rob, who was it worth it? It made me think for us. I can't tell you what. Yeah. Yeah. So you made my brain cells rub together
for a moment. Yeah. And look, uh, there's proof of concept here anyway because in season one, Tanisha wins and she never is supervillain at at any point throughout the game. I'm pretty just a farie was supervillain at one point or another and season two, but but he was also sitting next to West, which is, uh, you know, I'm pretty much at position to be in. Yeah, matter of fact, so far it was the first supervillain. So maybe, you know, he goes so far without burning a lot of people.
Sure. Um, he got what Larissa kicked out of the game, but, you know, getting a little Larissa kicked out of the game is not going to make a ton of enemies. So yeah, maybe winning supervillain is just not the strategy of winning house of, uh, house of villains ironically enough.
You don't want to be a supervillain.
Because every time you end, you have to put up three people, uh, New Yorker one because the game is flawed. Yeah. Uh, she was so close tonight. She was so close. She was so close. She was so close. She was so bad. And honestly, I'm so upset. We should talk about the challenge of course, but like, I, I literally felt like this was made for her because she's, she was talking about how she talks to the birds, she talks to the squirrels. And I really thought that this was going to
be her challenge. Yeah. Well, let's get into the challenge. And we, uh, see everybody getting ready for the challenge. And I did think that, um, New York said that, hey, another tip for house of villains is go to bed early because when you go to bed early, then you're sleeping and you can't be
“part of the, uh, if you, yeah, you are why, uh, full, full carry. Yeah. That's how you stand at the”
end of the fray. Yeah. We brought the Japanese word for car. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. No, she's not wrong. I mean, we've seen people and of course you haven't, but, um, in the past, the whole story lines have been developed over people waking people up. Um, you know, what's an issue in her pots and pans, uh, Bobby lights just be being Bobby lights. And she just met a fact that was New York. He was tertiary. But yes, she, she lives here. She's very comfortable.
And so she's okay with kind of staying out of the way. She's not making any enemies here. Okay. Let. And that's been a strategy for her. Like, that is, that has been working. But she's getting to the point where, like, she wants, she wants some power. She wants things. Yeah. Okay. Should we talk about our challenge? And what was the name of this challenge? Not job. Not job. Okay. And we're going to talk about our nuts and our sex.
Hello. It's blowing our love. Yeah. Yeah. Joel was just like, he was packin' into the
menu and on this one. Like, you know, this show is always a little, uh, you know,
pushing the envelope that you find in the pantry to open later. But this, I feel like was the most concentrated, like, yeah, we're just, we're just going for it here. And Joel was committed. Like, he wasn't, he wasn't cracking a smile. He was just delivering everything like it was facts. Yeah. Don't blow your load too much, like too early. It's great. I felt like the slap. Yeah. Do you need those episodes? Well, it's the three of us on the
slap. And Rob just kind of nods his hands like, do your thing. It's like, okay. We're going to talk about it. Let's do it. I got my balls today. Let's get into it. Yeah. Honestly, it, like, this challenge
“felt like it was written by Shapala and I. And that's why we love this show so much.”
I know me so well. What if it's like, it's like, it's a good strategic, like math challenge, but also balls. Lots of nut sack puns. And also, they're just like squirrels. And Joel is a park ranger. And you don't want to blow your load. Like, it does feel like just Shapala and I riffing off of each other. It took me a minute, a couple of rounds to figure out exactly how this game worked. But you had to divvy up your nuts and then have enough to keep moving on.
Basically, yeah, but you can't have the least. If you have the least amount of nuts, you're
eliminated, even if you tie with somebody else. And so you have to have enough of enough nuts to get to the next round. So that you still leave yourself enough nuts to continue until the final round, in which case whoever has the most at that point will win the game. Yeah. You need stamina because it's like, you, there are multiple rounds. And you don't get to refill your nuts. It's not a break. Not only charge period. Not at all. Yeah, like, the, this is not a renewable
resource here. And so you truly have to think about what's enough to get the job done. But what's not too much that I can't keep the job going, you know? And that was what was truly important here. And, you know, we see some good, like strategic game players here. Maybe do two little. Like, this is one of the things where you're like, okay, you're looking, you're looking at Tyson and Paul who have played a lot of challenges like this in, in their time on reality television.
“And you think like, they're going to know the best way to do this. And I think maybe, in another”
scenario, how they perform in the first round might have worked. But you've got people here
being like, I don't know, Drieda dropped 17 nuts in the first round. So he's 30. Crazy. That crazy.
That, that'll kill you.
and Paul were too focused on a net retention. And I really should have just been divvied out
more evenly or, you know, and not being so conservative with their nets. Yeah, they had too close to the, or not, not vastly. Yeah, not close enough. Maybe they did the, yeah, they would be like, so could you have put nuts in other people's sacks? I don't think so. No, I don't think so.
“You have to put them in your own sack because like, I just want to like make sure,”
like, what if you're like, I don't have enough nuts to win this game. I just want to help. Yeah, my friend. Yeah, I think that there was a scenario where say, like, you got down to the last three and the last three was what it was New York and, uh, and Drieda. And say, the, uh, hey, I just, uh, well, then you would knock yourself out at that point, uh, if you, so yeah, but there's a real merit to you knocking yourself. Unless you just don't want to win,
you want to help somebody else. Maybe it's like, I don't want to be supervillain and so I want New York, I want them to be supervillain, right? Or if you just know, like, okay, so if Tyson, if Tyson wants to strategize with Tom, make sure, and like we see this early early in the challenge where he comes out and flashes to Tom that he put four in his, in his, uh, basket. Like, if you want to work together and you're like, okay, I don't think I have enough left to win the game, um,
but Tom does. I want to help him win. So instead, instead of using my nuts on myself, I'm going to, like, let him save some nuts here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the later rounds where I need him to beat these other people and I'm going to gift him nuts into his back from my. Yeah, yeah, you know, like, you know, like, like, it must not have been allowed because no, I just think that
“that is a good way if you want to collude with someone. This is not a show where things are not allowed.”
I think that, like, if Tom and Tyson want to work together. Yeah, they went, and it was like, hey, I like, like, hey, Tom, I really want you to be supervillain of the week this week. Like, when I'll go in there and I'll put you, like, save your nuts. I'll put my nuts in your bag, and you'll go for, I think they wouldn't let them do that. And I don't know, if you'd be fair, maybe Tyson would have gotten there if the situation presented itself. However,
him and Paul are eliminated immediately. Yeah, we'll never know. Okay. All right. So we had a moment
where it looked like that New York was going to potentially be her the first ever, so supervillain for the first ever time, and then ultimately for Lucy and Ethel, it was a showdown in the final two. Incredible. You know, Kate saying, I really want to be a supervillain, because I want to come off the hit list. And New York been like, okay, girl, I only got three nuts. And we found out New York really wants to be supervillain of the sudden. And we've never seen this
energy from her, where she is looking to get power for herself, probably because she knows that Tyson's on the ropes and Tyson is her number one ally. So she knows if Kate wins, Tyson's probably going up. I was really rooting for New York because in a way, in a way, I don't want, of course, I don't want Tyson to go home. But I also knew that New York would leave Kate up there, but she would very much be trying to get out somebody she doesn't like or somebody she's not working with,
and she likes Kate. So I thought New York winning this was the best case scenario for me and my life. Oh, but yeah, um, she, Kate's in her challenge, but she did it again. She did it again. She said these supervillain challenges are impossible. She didn't even think that she could win. Even though she won the last one. And then she is, and she's back supervillain.
Yeah, I do love that, like New York was was lying and was basically like, yeah, girl, I'm
going to, I'm going to let you in. And like, she's a gamer. She's like, no, I want this for myself. Like, this is, and it wasn't even just about like, I want to keep myself safe. I want to keep my, like, friends safe. She's like, I want to win my first thing. Like, she cares about the pride of it all. Um, but I do think that, you know, Sheppel, to what you were saying about, uh,
“in New York being the best case scenario. I think that New York probably puts”
Dreada and Christine or Dreada and Paul, maybe, yeah, probably Paul, um, up against Kate. And there's like, there's a chance that Kate goes. Like, there's a chance that Tyson is like, she put me on the hit list, convinces Tom that they have to get rid of her. So like,
It, you know, it did feel kind of like a must win for Kate here.
you know, you get this envelope and you end up on the hit list and you're the one person that wins.
Like, we have to give Kate her flowers. She is, she is running shit. Okay. Well, Tom and Tyson, they know they're in trouble. Kate is off the hit list. She has to pick who gets to go on the reward with her. She's going to pick New York and Paul.
“Oh, my dream. I'm so happy. Like, Jenny, is this, is this it? Is this heaven? Is this what it looks like?”
Like, I just want to hang out with those three for an afternoon. I mean, I don't know if I want to do the like, Cirque school that they can sign me up. You would like that. I think it looks fun,
but I think that'll be sore after. Like, like Paul, I too am a clown. And so I finally felt like,
okay, I found my people, okay, amongst the carnities, no, not at all, they're positive, uh, put me on the swing. You know, I think I'm okay on the swing, but the, the, the ropes and stuff like that. I give me my red nose and my big old clown shoes and my clown wig and I'll be alright. So, there was a tense conversation between Kate and Tom in the kitchen. We had the running good counter for how much does it work? Good. Got mentioned.
That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good. That's good.
That's good. That's good. You know, clearly, that's not just each other anymore. Yeah, they're out. They're out.
Yeah. Like, imagine not knowing if, if Kate, like, like, two or three, it's just so, like, straight to the point. Like, I can't imagine the stress and terror when you know you've pissed Kate off. Yeah. And she's doing that good. Oh, good. I'm glad that I'm glad you're feeling good. Good. Like, that's terrifying. And she is the queen of customer service. She, she's from below deck. She was the head stewardest, right? That was her thing. She was chief stew. Since she's known for
people liking her and being inviting, but that's for work. She turns it off and you're just like,
“I think she wants to be dead. You know, so this, this would stress me out. I would not like to be in this”
position. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's, I find it very familiar. I feel like, oh, yeah, I feel like you've had an introduction in the kidman life. Have you ever seen this? Yeah. Yeah. This is, I feel yeah. Really good. He's a good. Yeah. Yeah. The more specific. But he, well, why are you like this right now? You know, it's like, oh, you don't know. Okay. You know, but we get that great scene that I was talking about before with Kate and Paul, where Paul is a little bit unsure where he is. He's
he's talking to Dreada, but he goes to Kate and should Paul just get to it. You're with me and see, piss me off. That's it. Okay. These people are so annoyed by Paul. Like, we have seen two full seasons of Big Brother, where Paul is nothing but talking game 24/7. Like, just bullshitting people around the clock and just talking through everything. And as a fellow freaking yapper, like, it, you know, I truly understand and get it. This is not the group for
this, especially where we're at now. Jenny and he was below the, it was Big Brother houses. Yes. Exactly. But Raven, drink is cool. Yeah, Kate would not go near his hood. Like Kate would, Kate would have nothing to do with his cool aid. You know, there is a difference between Raven and Walter and Kate Chastin. We are Raven on the podcast to break down Paul's game so far. Yeah. I do want to know how Paul has implemented things that he learned from Raven's
“game in the house of Bill. The true master. I think. Yeah. That's amazing. I don't know. What did,”
yeah, what did, what did he learn from Raven's game that became a really part, like a big part of this strategy here. But that, that's a thing is like, Paul is so used to playing a game like this, where again, Big Brother, you also have nothing else to do. These people do get their phones. And also, a lot of them are like older and want to go to bed at a reasonable out. So like, what the fuck else am I doing? Like I'm going to talk to my kids and I'm going to go to sleep. So,
but Paul is just like, all right, like, let's, oh, I think I can talk about this. I can take, like, take this angle with somebody and like everyone sees through and they're like, cut the ship,
Paul, like, yeah, you're fine.
so funny. It's so funny. I love him. I love him. So Kate and Tyson, there's no love loss there.
It feels like that when Kate feels like she has like something that she can wound you with, she's going to twist the knife. It seems like that she feels like she has this with Tyson and Pickleball.
“And I feel like that she really wants to open up like, hey, why do you play tennis like a grown-up?”
It's hard to know if she really feels that way or if she's saying it because it's Tyson. There's a world where Kate literally does not respect Pickleball, right? And this is like, it just happens to be the thing that Tyson loves to do. So, you know, but because Tyson is the victim of her I right now, it does feel like she's kind of picking on him. And he says it, Tyson is a villain because of the way he played survivor token chains. Right. He was a bully back then. He was
making fun of people at their expense. And then he ended up on here on this villain because of that game. This man who was known for being a villain is like, yeah, I think I'm going to go sit over there because Kate is mean. It's like, oh my god, Kate is a mean. It's what you said you were on a tribe of Russell hands with Boston Rob, poverty, like Kate is mean. You know his bad when Tyson is running from you. That's sort of thing I'm like trying to think about like has Tyson really encountered
anyone like Kate though. And in all of the games that he's played, like I just think that she's such a unique type of reality TV personality and just personality in general that like I don't know that Tyson knows how to spar with someone or he just like is at the age where he's like I don't want to. Like if there's no point anything I say is just fueling her more. Like he does have her clocked in that, you know, she is driven by revenge and and retaliation. So like what is the point in even saying
anything back? It's just going to be her more. But I will say her criticism of pickleball by saying like, why don't you just play tennis like a real adult? Is that something that Tyson is really going to feel insulted by? Like, I do think that Tyson really looks at himself and is like, I care about being seen as a real adult and like a high brow person. Like I and I say this with the utmost amount of love as as a person of approaching age and does not see themselves as a real adult.
So I I just really think that like that's not something that Tyson cares about. To be fair,
“her exact words were you should play tennis because it's more chic. It's what she said and I really don't”
think Tyson cares about being chic. I disagree. I think Tyson would like to be chic. Tyson loves to be chic. I'm not bad. I don't know him as well as you do. He's chic in his own way. Like I don't think that he cares about being chic in the way that he thinks is chic. I don't know. I'm kind of leaning to a rob now because Jenny by the end of this episode, we will see Tyson in a suit with a ballero
tie. I have never seen this man just like this. He wants a vibrant one of those t-shirts that
looks like a tuxedo. She said you're not chic. Tyson was like, "Damn, I need to dress up. I need to put my suit on." He will dress up in some sort of like, you know, he lives in Arizona. He does have like sort of like a new Mexico side of like his wardrobe where he will wear, you know, cowboy boots. He will wear like a 10 gallon hat sometimes in a bowl of tie. So he does have that look that he will
“go to sometimes. I don't know if it was really good. I think it's a good look for him too because”
it's like it's style, it's fancy, but it's like not like a stiff suit. Like, I don't know. I just think that that actually was such a great style for him. But like, everyone's shocked. They were like, "Okay." She caught his bluff. She said, "You're not chic." And he said, "I'll show you chic."
"I'll show you." You know, so you're chic. I've never seen him dress like this. But again, he won a million
dollars on a lot finale of survivors sitting up there in a T-shirt. This man is Kate said he wasn't chic and he's like, "I'll be damned." Yeah, if he made fun of me, lady, he was freaking out my chic and stuff. But my chic and stuff. You know, how you could tell that the why don't you play tennis like an adult didn't bother him is because he then pivots from this to go make a super bed with Tom. He's jumping in the bed. Yeah. They were like, it's a super bed. I was like, "Oh,
it's just like, you know, like a king size bed." But they they pushed it together just so they can jump in it. I thought they were going to make a fort or something cool. It is like, "Yeah, they just jumping
In a bed a little bit.
male friendship where, you know, and we get we get so much of it. Like, the childish joyful nature between Tyson and Tom in that like, "Oh, yeah, I'm not a real adult. I'm pushing my bed together with my best friend and we're jumping on the bed together." And then we're going to put our puppets in a compromising position and like, you know, throw a bunch of nuts on us. Like, like, this is not a man that cares about being like Sena's refined and liking like a high
brows for like tennis over pickle. Tyson is unserious, ultimately. Okay. We have a rebranded pizza party.
Pizza got a bad rap at the House of Villain's House, but that Dreada is going to bring pizza back. Yeah, she's trying to reclaim it. I don't want to move too far ahead because I have to point out that New York telling Tyson and Tom to rub the lotion on each other's back because it was a
“roddock and saying that she needed some nilla wafers. I think she should be in jail. Why would you”
say that? Oh, I'll shit. Bring me some nilla wafers for this banana split. I was done. I'm done. I'm done. It's good. No, she's watching. She's watching this bromance in a different way. Like,
I'm like, oh, I love when when men are vulnerable with each other and they have like really
wholesome friendships and she's like, now kiss. No, she's probably called it last night. You know, her so well that you felt like that. Maybe that something is going on with New York right now. She's going through. She's going. Yeah. She's going nuts, baby. Yeah. She's, she missed an boo dad probably. You know, she's in, she's engaged. She put it on him. He proposed and now she's stuck in a house with all these men and, you know, I think she's into it. I think she likes what she sees.
Now, I don't think it's going to go anywhere after this because she is a loyal woman and a strong woman. But she can have fantasies. She can think about certain things. I don't, I don't blame her for her going there. Right. She just, she just wants to watch. That's all. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Okay.
“Do you want to talk about anybody who's old jobs at the pizza party?”
Yeah. Christine work and get Taco Bill and Sonic is crazy. That's actually insane. That's actually, that's actually the wildest thing I've ever heard of my life. Yeah. Like what? That's the sales pipeline. You start with Sonic and Taco Bell and then all of a sudden your, your realtor on selling sunset. You think she's worried about having a slayest look when she was skating around at Sonic driving? I bet she freaking served as like, I'm not talking about the food. Not the food. The food
you waited on. Yeah. Yeah. But she had a good lunch for sure. She was a Sonic batty for sure. We didn't end up talking about what happened to the letter at some point where Tyson put it under
the chair and then so Kate would be stuck being on the hit list. But ultimately, Paul is going to
really relay this information back to Kate, which I mean, Tyson did go until Paul, not to open the letter. This was some way to thank him, Paul. Paul has been dying to play the game. Like Jimmy said, this is the Paul that I know is, you know, you can't trust this man. And so he, yeah, he went out of his way to throw Tyson under the bus. You know, and I think that Tyson wasn't necessarily trying to stick Kate with the letter. But he was trying to protect Paul from having the letter. He
talked about it at the beginning of the episode where he was like, I'm running out of allies here, and I think Paul will be willing to work with me. So I don't want Paul on the hit list. So now it is coming back to bite him a little bit. Paul, for him to be working so hard. People normally not really paying too much attention to his strategic moves. I do think this is really good because it does solidify that anything that Tom and Tyson are trying to say about Kate about how
this was an accident and all those stuff. This is the nail in the coffin for them as far as the both of them going on the block will it keep Paul off the block? We are yet to see. But I thought it was
“a really good move for him. Here's the thing is like Tyson was trying to have everything he wanted”
here. And so, you know, whereas before he would have been happy to see Paul go, he now recognizes that like this is a free agent and the Kate and Dreada and Christine side of things is a problem for him and what's important is to get that broken up and it would be way too easy for that group
To just make sure that Paul is the easy person to just get the to open the la...
envelope glass. And that's not good for Tyson. Tyson is now like, I don't need to get out the person that has no allies. I need to make that person my ally. But Paul, this is where Paul is actually a good game player and is like correctly reading the floater position that he's now in, where it's
“just like, okay, well, I'm not really the top priority for either of these sides. The best thing”
I can do is just use information to my advantage. And, you know, if you're Paul, you're never going
to be Tyson's top ally as long as Tom is in the house. So he's not going to, he's not going to bend over backwards for Tyson. So why not say like, oh yeah, Tyson came and told me not to open this envelope. You already have the information at this point. You're not going to open the envelope. What's the harm in sharing that? So I actually do love this like from Paul. I actually think that this is a great position to be speaking of bending over backwards. Should we talk about the
surf school? I thought it was fun. Jim, you wouldn't like this? I would, I would be happy to be there. I think it would be fun. I'm just thinking about like, I would be sore after I think that because like I'm just not used to like all the bending. I don't know. I'd like I would embarrass myself maybe. But maybe I would surprise myself and be really graceful. I don't know. It's hard to say. Well, yeah, well, what about you? I don't think this is for me.
Why didn't Paul have like a, like, why, where did the costume come from when they got back? Paul had a clown costume and like a wallop. And like, even New York did not have any sort of garb. Shepel, I feel like that maybe, are you, are you more familiar with Cirque de Soleil? I feel like that did they have like acrobatps, but they're also clowns, isn't it? But maybe we just saw the acrobatps stuff? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm sure, yeah. I'm sure these people had clowns there. You know, it's a UK.
Say, this is a circus type vibe and not have at least a clown outfit. You probably don't use it in the same way. But I think even Cirque de Soleil has clowns. They're just not your typical bit Afrored knows, you know, um, the fancy clowns. Yeah, a fancy clowns. But like, people like me and Paul, you didn't hear a clown and you look up and say, huh? What? And so, I, I have not shocked at all that he made sure he had that outfit on. I would have had it on too. Yeah. You know, I don't like
games, but this is not a game. This is not a competition. This is, this is shenanigans. And I love
shenanigans. I've never heard you have a desire to dress up like a clown before. I don't have a desire
to dress up a clown, but if you tell me, would you like to bowl or dress up like a clown? I'm picking the clown outfit. I don't want to, I don't want to compete. There's no competition in this. I've been pretty open about my lack of competitive edge. Can you? Sure. You can compete
“to have the most fun. Oh, no. See, that's not a lot to you. That's how they get you, Jenny. That's”
what competitive people say. And you are competitive person. So I know not to trust it. No way. Jenny stopped. Jenny stopped. One of the things I thought was fun in this meet-up was, so New York is kind of like a double agent here, where that she is tied with Kate. She just certainly doesn't want to go up on the hit list. This is her roommate, but she's with Tyson and Tom. And she's trying to play it off like
she's not, but Kate's onto her. Yeah, she knows. New York looks so good. And when she put on this new wig, hey, hey, I see you girl. I was so distracted by how beautiful she looked. Kate was not thought. She saw straight through this. At the at the circus trainer training game, I don't know. She's seeing like, it's her school. Yeah, it's her school. She seemed like she was trying to be subtle. When she gets back to the house, she pulls them to the side. Like, hey,
just so you know, they're coming for you. And people keep walking in. So you see New York doing the big brother's track. You know, the big brother game where you're like, okay, I think such is such a, hey girl, what's going on? You see you over there. No seriously, they're coming for
“y'all. They made somebody else leave the room. She's like, Tom, you need to make sure you go talk”
to like New York is at the center of the strategy. She's leading this alliance, Jenny. We've made it. We've made it. And we were one not away from our New York. It's not HOH, but you know what I mean?
It feels like. It's a wish to me, Dammit. Well, it could have been an HOH. Yeah, here's the thing, though,
because Kate is clocking that New York is with Tyson because Tyson in that redemption challenge looks and says, okay, New York. You want to kiss? You want to kiss? And like, that's, that is, you know, information to be like, she cared that much to help Tyson get off of the hit. List. That means something here. And I'm sure that you're, you know, you're probably also observing
How people are in the house.
about birds and squirrels together. And you're also, if you've, if you've done your homework and you've watched the previous seasons of House of Villains, you are anticipating that Tyson is the kind of player that New York is going to work with. Like, you don't watch seasons two and see New York and West working together and think like, you know what? I bet you New York hates Tyson a possible. Like, when you see that in the house that they're actually get along, you're like,
they're working together. Like, this is, this is a very clear thing. And this is not to say, like,
okay, isn't incredible. Like, but it's also just like, it makes a lot of sense here.
But yeah, like, this, this is where it becomes a dangerous situation for New York where there's needs to be a third nominee. And it's Tom and Tyson. And if they're talking that you are a friend of, of TNT, then boom. Kind of like. Yeah, I like to call them Thompson. That's my light name for the top. So I thought at one point Tyson was going to throw New York under the boss because I thought that Kate came in the room. I thought he said, like, hey, should we, should we all talk
about it? Like, he would like, like, did, I felt like he said something around about like the, he was almost like, I thought, thought blowing up her spot, but it didn't seem like it went that way.
Mm-hmm. No, he still knows he has a chance to win the redemption challenge. There's no
point in throwing New York under the buzz right now. Yeah. Because if he sits next to New York, he goes home anyway. Right. So he needs all the allies he can get. Yeah. Okay. And then you
“have to stop New York. Like, you should not be pissing off New York. Yeah. No reason. Like, what,”
unless it's like the last stop, like, on your journey. You know what I mean? And even then, you really should not do that. All right. So Tyson and Kate talk and Kate is pissed about the letter. Why do you hide the letter under the chair? It's just valid questions, right? And Tyson really doesn't have a real answer for it. I just kind of guess I just wanted you to keep it. You know, she, she has all the power. She knows that she has lever. She has, she knows what the body's about. And so now she's
just playing with her food, really. You know, and this is again, why Kate is so scary because she's such a straight shooter that Tyson knows he's getting nowhere with him. She's not even trying to sell him. Like, oh, no, it's perfectly fine. You know, no, we're good. We're good together. She's just like, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. She's giving him nothing. And so for a plan like Tyson, who's looking for an angle, looking to get in, looking to reagreciate
himself with the with the majority. It's very off putting, right? He knows he's talking to a brick wall. And then we see Kate talk to Tom and Tom is trying to apologize. And she's not having that either. She has some of his Tyson, your boss. She runs the house like the Navy. Well, because because Tom is trying to say, like, well, I didn't tell him to do that. Like, I didn't do anything. I didn't do that. And Kate's just like, those Tyson, your boss. You just have to do everything that he said.
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. We have a super bed. Okay. Okay. You can't break that bond. That lady is in charge of the house. Okay. We saw Christine waking her up. First thing in the morning like Kate, would you like some coffee, please? She's like, yeah, cream and sugar, please. It's just, it's just
“just like, yes, okay, please. Thank you, Scott. Thank you. She says, and she doesn't say, I think Kate's”
going to put me up on the block. She says, she's going to say something to you and see why about me. And I don't want to hear that. Okay. It's so cutting that these people who are known for being villains are running scared. They're afraid. That's not saying. It's like it's like it's it's she's hitting them from every angle. Like, people are working with her out of fear, but also like
a respect, you know, for a respectful fear. They're like, you are very powerful. And I don't know
I want to feel your wrath, even if it's not even about the game. Please don't yell at me. So we're finally to get to our nomination ceremony inside the bookcase. And Kate is going to pick out who goes on the hit list. And here comes Tyson looking very chic. I might add I would cool. Coincidence or because Kate said, you know, stepping up. Yeah, he puts Tyson on the block. He has no words in response. He's just like, oh, okay, cool. Joel, okay. Obviously, being like, come on, man, you know, where we saw you are for the show.
“You have to say it's crazy. Oh, and then um, does something very odd. He basically says, if you don't”
if you, if you didn't put me up, I was willing to go and help promote your social media page by commenting on everything. He thinks he's on the cast of the Trader still. Oh, Tom, Tom, this, but Tom did
Here.
thing. We're like, you have the little graphic and the corner of like Instagram. I just like loved this monologue of of true like reality influencer. Respect is like, I, I thought we were so good that I was going to interact with your sponsored posts to ramp up engagement. I want to tell you that you could put somebody though, Jenny. I'm literally, I am literally saying that is like the biggest sign of respect of the influencer world. Like, okay, I am going to engage with your sponsored post,
get that bag friend. Like, so I, I loved this from Tom because I just thought it was like, yeah, he did, he met and he meant every word because he knows how important that is. It's important.
“It is. Yeah. And he's not going to do it now. No, she blew it. So, you have to rely on somebody else to”
comment on those white strips and. Okay. Do you like playing Jane and Johnny were a commenting on the post as well? Um, and then we get a fricked in cliffhanger. Boo. Yeah,
boom, cliffhanger for the least important position here. Like, here's the thing. I love this show.
And I love the show. I love, I love what they do. And if they have to make a cliffhanger at the end of that, so sure, fine. But there, there is not a lot of suspense on who this third nominee is here because ultimately it's in consequential. When you're looking at the board, you look, you see who's going to be voting in a lot of scenarios. One of Tom or Tyson is going to go here. Yeah. The bromance is going to be split up. Well, just to add to your point about the third nominee,
“Jenny, that I think it probably is a nothing burger. And that's why they cliffhanger it here,”
where that it's like, yeah, I think that like, way, if it's this New York, she would pop off. If it's Christina, it's like, oh, Christina, like, it's really, I don't want you to go home and she's like, it's cool girl. I'll get you coffee later. Like, that's kind of a soft note to end the episode on, so maybe if you do the cliffhanger, then it's like, it's like, oh, it's actually there's more suspense than it's going to be New York. Is it going to be Paul? Yeah. And I really think that that's
another reason why it all leads to just being Christine because I think that I can imagine the
other three kind of showing up to like, say a little something. But ultimately, like, the third
spot is like, in this scenario is not someone that is really feeling like a target. So it doesn't even make a lot of sense for them to pop off. That doesn't mean like, I'd still see New York flipping the F out if she gets put up in the third spot here, which is why I don't think that that
“it's her. But yeah, I think that of all of these people, Christine is the person that's like,”
listen, you had to pick someone, and especially if Kate says exactly what I said, it was like, I need to pick someone who is definitely staying next to one of these people. So it's fine. Well, how does Christine take it? Right. She, she, she reasonable enough to say, hey, I understand why you did that. And it's okay with me. Or does she look around and say, that means I'm expendable to you. And I should probably flip inside. We really have to look at what happens
down at Kate has to potentially make an enemy. You know, if Kate's staying true to her word, then she's not going to put a paw, which would be the least amount of blood she can get on her hands. But by putting up Christine, New York or, um, Adriita, she's going against the Charlie Zancho's alliance or her roommate, New York. And I think that's bad all around. You know, Kate, although she has one, two supervillain challenges in a row, nobody is one, three in the history of the show. And so
if she was to win three in a row, that would keep her safe. But then at that point, she's still crack and skull is a little bit. She's got to put people on the block. She's got to start making enemies. This game is not designed for you to make it all the way to the end without pissing somebody off.
Yeah, this should wake up Christine if she is the third nominee here. And this, this is where she,
you know, if she is really coming to play, needs to enact the strategy she spoke about in the last episode where she said she was going to make Paul her bitch and say, okay, I'm clearly not a high priority for the Kate and Dreadas of the world here. Tom and Tyson have their own thing. York kind of seems like she's on that side with them and no one's putting up New York. I need to start working with Paul here and and be the person that's like, it's you and me. Like
I need to find someone who's going to pick me first and that could be Paul.
what you have to do and wake up to if you're Christine and you're getting, you know, picked
“us the third nominee here. Can we talk about the next time on House of Villains?”
Of course. Oh, we get a lot of visitors. It looks like people from these people's past from past shows because we did see Josh Martinez. We know it's time to Paul in the history of Big Brother, but I also saw a chance from I love New York and as someone who is currently talking about I love New York, my mouth fell on the floor, my tongue got out and rolled down the street because why is he back on television? I don't know who else that was in that preview. Oh,
Candy Muse, of course, which I don't know, Candy is just the vehicle for this or Candy is
coming in as almost like New York's former, you know, another New York friend. But it looks like
Candy is showing up with some people from these people's past. Yeah. And I don't know. I wonder who else is going to pop up? And I could have sworn. I thought I spotted Jarvis Peterson in the background. Oh, yes, I mean, yes, there's someone connected to someone. There needs to be someone for Tyson. And yeah, I didn't spot an obvious Tyson connection. But now I'm needed to go back and watch this and see if I spot this as well. Wow. So happy. I'm so happy. It's just, you know,
this is so good. It was deep in the back. I thought I saw them. No, you probably saw you probably saw if you think it's not there. You might have seen him. Yeah, you might have seen them. Oh, that's so cool.
I wonder if they're going to come together or how this is going to all going to work.
It's got to be. Is it, is it part of the redemption challenge or, because it, yeah, there was another, there was another still. And I actually was like, oh, is this like the, the final four. Because we saw Candy Muse talking to Kate, Drita Paul in New York. But that could just be the four that aren't participating in the redemption challenge if it's Tyson, Tom and Christine. So it could be, they could be there for something to do
with the, the redemption challenge. But then I'm like, why would there be people connected to people that aren't in the redemption challenge there? Like, that's where I'm trying to be like, what's, what's the catch here? Because Josh is there for Paul, Paul's not playing. I don't know. It's a party. Maybe it's a party party, which is, which is great. I support and support this completely.
Yeah, who has come in for a Tom Sandevol is the real question. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, they're bringing people back. I don't know. That could be messy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. More of this, more of this, tend to stuff like this. And are we going to get green of versus Christine?
“That's what the edit made us like think. I don't know. Okay. We shall see.”
And then Tyson versus Paul, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Just saying. All right. We'll see when the only three episodes left of House of Villains is that right? If so. So seven. I believe so. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. We're in the home stretch here that we want to let the listeners know that they can chat about every episode of House of Villains in the House of Villains group chat over on chat BCC.
Check it out. I don't know where your phone number. One number on this dream. If I five five five five five five five five. I did not know. I didn't know there was a chat because now you got to put all these people that we're getting on the next episode. I know for the below that fan. I saw crazy chef Ben. And so yeah. I mean, you've already been on me. Yeah. Put me in, put me in the the the the chat BCC group.
“I want to be a host. I got some questions. Okay. Yeah. Can we get me to be a host?”
Yeah. Put us down. We're going to take some cards. We're like, we don't know who you are. Yeah. But yeah. Who we are. Stop playing with the hatch is going to be like, and we we love House Villains. We were the foremost experts on this show, Jenny. Please, we're created. We're not forget we have signed up to create the Wikipedia page. I mean to update it. Yeah. We're diving deep into this show. Yeah. So here's in the chat BCC. It's our candy muse, Safari,
Plain Jane. Tyson, Richard. Oh, real. Oh, real. Camilla. Real. Jessie.
Quick.
And let's see. So yeah. We got it. We got to get Larsa pippin' in there. We got to get Larsa in there.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a few. There's a few stragglers that we don't quite see. Like, where's Aunt Thisa? Where we need to write. It's Bobby Lights in there. I got it. Okay. We got to recruit.
“Yeah. Where is Tommy? Tommy Sandevol? Yeah. And Vanessa is talking to you. And then there is what?”
Well, no. No. Okay. West Roblin. I'll pop up. It was not the greatest time. No. Yeah. Check out the Rob's website. I come slash the IP chat to go ahead and join. Yeah. That's fine. That's so fun. See if they'll the villains are getting along. Okay. They shouldn't be. We signed up for building me. All right. Jenny. What's going on? What's going on for you? Rob, I am covering, uh, jury duty presents colon company retreat. Yes. Uh, with my bloom.
And it's so, oh, if you had a chance to watch it, yeah. I have no. I'm so I'm very far behind. Oh my god. You're really busy. But when you have a chance, please watch this because I know
“we had so much fun covering the first season of jury duty. Was that two summers I go now?”
Um, I think it was 2023. Is that three? Oh, Jesus Christ. The time is falling over here. Oh my god.
And I can't do math. I've never been able to. Um, yeah. So, uh, on the the we know reality, uh,
feed my bloom and I are, uh, we'll be back to cover episode four and five of eight total episodes. So, uh, our second week of three weeks of coverage, um, check that out. Having a really good time talking about this insane show, uh, with my bloom. Um, and that's pretty much it right now. Okay. Should tell what's coming up for you. Well, if you want more duty, we cover it. I'm covering it too. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh, oh my god. We're talking about it. Yeah.
“We're talking about it. Wow. Check out Jenny's and check out my, you know,”
Jenny, you show me yours. I show you mine. Check it out. It's a fun time. It's yeah. It's a fun time. We'll see those pods bigger. Put it on the table. Let it hang. Um, now, yeah, we're doing that. Obviously, yeah, it's like, yeah, look, we mean, Jenny are both long with it. So that's the that's a different type of contest. Okay. Hey, she got my bloom though. She got my bloom then. I'm, I'm fucked up. So anyway, uh, talking about I love New York. Currently, talking about I love New York
with a chantail. A lot on YouTube every Sunday right now. Something to change because we got some other things to talk about after that. Um, Marie and I just finished talking about, uh, cross with Jason Reed. We have Matt Scott coming to talk about beauty and black next week. Abby Elementary still going on until G and I are covering it. And Rob, you and I are talking about paradise. Uh, it's been so good. And I was watching some paradise YouTube videos today, Shappelle getting ready for the big season
finale coming up on Monday. So very pumped up for us paradise fan. Go back. Go back three
the first week. And then it's just like boom, boom, yeah. You're giving him a fan, um, paradise
is ending and extracted is ending as well. Uh, we're looking at the finale with me and Mary. And so, uh, yeah, so much content right now, Rob. All right. Thank you so much for joining us, everybody. We'll be back next time. Take care. Good one. Bye. But what I want to say, you don't want to get a lot of students. You're a master by Taglab, Toppücher, Soft, Handy, Internet. Hey, so master, I'm really tired.
I'm just saying, you can do the same thing. You're a master, right? But you don't want to. Egal, it's just a challenge. Make it a lot of work. Make it a lot of work. And when you then work, it's a chain. That's right. Save. How much work? Hold your money back. Now it costs just out for me.


