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How are you doing? I'm doing fine, how are you doing? I'm good, good, fine. How was your weekend? Uh, weekend was really nice.

We celebrated Robby's birthday. Yeah, the birthday boy. How was your weekend? It was good, we, um, I had like big intentions to not do anything, 'cause I've been socialized out, um, but

Haley somehow got me to like rearrange two of the rooms in the house, and move things, and in one of the moves, we were trying to make one of our rooms, like a gem with all the equipment in there and stuff. And, um, we were moving this mirror, and Haley's not. She's very mentally tough, but physically strength-wise, nimble.

Not nimble, delicate, delicate flower. And so we were trying to move this mirror, and it was very top heavy. So I had that side, and we were carrying it sideways. And I was trying to lift it up in her side, like, slid down or something. I don't really know what happened, but my instinct was to not let it hit the floor,

'cause it was like, "We're really heavy." So I squeezed, I like tried to catch it with my legs,

so I put my legs together, and so the mirror, like, basically hit both of my inner thighs,

and then still went through them because it was so heavy and hit the ground. So two bad things happened. I have the craziest bruises on both of my legs right now. Yeah, they look pretty gnarly. That was like Googling, like, wind to be concerned about a bruise.

But yeah, I don't know, yeah. Um, so I haven't slept because any move I make is absolute pain. Yeah, um, we're going to the homies this week, and I look like I've been like punched and beat.

“I have bruises because I played basketball or inner thighs, right?”

You mean, like, you can't see them? Well, yeah, I mean, like, what are you gonna do? They're like, like, spread eagle at the beach. They're not full in her, they're more like, quad, yes, uh, inner quad. Yeah, I read above the knee.

And I have bruises from basketball last week, so I look like I've been through it, but it's okay. Everything's fine. Everything's fine. I have bruises too.

So what are your bruises from skiing, falling? Well, like two weeks ago. I know I still have a look. No, I need one. That's very discouraging for me right now.

It's getting better, much better. But yeah, I did last. Yeah, I've been like looking into Chicago to acupuncture,

I don't know.

“Anyway, so we did that, and it's so funny because we have this honestly stunning”

gym room with all this equipment in there. And we just keep going to look at it to admire how clean it is, but no one's gotten in there doing anything active. Yeah. I'd like to come over and use it.

Yeah, yeah, we're doing $10 membership, so. Honestly, $10 a month? Yeah. Heck yeah. And you can use the pull-out side.

Wow. Jacuzzi, full spa. Yeah, I have a sauna blanket. Wow. Yeah.

Well, you could rent your sauna out. Yeah. So we could do it. We had like a gym in our garage. I mean, when I say gym, like we have like weights,

and then like those little like whatever the thing that you lay on to do the weights. A bench? A bench. So we had like a couple of things in there, and then like now it's just been so we did all of our storage.

All of our Christmas decorations are in there. It's just become like total storage, so the area to work out has become very slim in there. But you saw the sauna. Yeah. So we could do a trade.

Yeah. I'll give you a trade for the $10 or $5 discount. Deal. What did you all do for Robby's birthday? I actually did something really cute.

And I basically planned out the entire weekend for him.

But I made it. I made like two different cards. So like it was like said Saturday morning, Saturday morning, and then it would be like option one option two. Okay.

And he'd have to pick a card and then whichever one he picked. That's what we would do. Oh, like what were the, what were they? Well, I made them the exact same option. So I basically planned out the whole weekend without like thinking.

He thinking that he would like randomly decide what his fate was. But like whichever envelope he picked. Do you know what the same thing? Each one was the same. Each activity was the same.

Right. So option one option two were the exact same thing. But he didn't ever know. So he would like pull one out and he would say, oh, this is where we're going and I would rip up the other one.

Oh, so he never knew. No. Well, he kind of caught on when I like booked him a massage.

“And he was like, how are they known to be here at 11 a.m. tomorrow?”

And I was like, uh, you're like, I just took a chance. Yeah, it was like, well, there could have been one o'clock too. Like I was just trying to let go of mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was really cute.

And he's like, you don't have to do this. You know, you spoiled me so much. Like, it was really cute. Yeah, that's so fun. It was fun.

Even the element of surprise even though there was no surprise. Yeah, I've done that before. And then hey, like, we got to the dessert portion and hey, like, chose one and two, like, what's the other option? And she liked it better.

Yeah. That's what I didn't want to happen. I was like, well, yeah, when you have a massage plan. But if you were doing like restaurants or something, yeah, you could have made two reservations.

And then there was breakfast one morning. It was two different spots. And I was just like whichever one we don't need a reservation. You should go. The eight hour wait one.

No, no, he's never going there again.

Yeah, that was cute. Um, yesterday we went to meet one of our friends. Had a baby in early January or actually December 31. So we went and met her for the first time. Gabby, her baby, she's perfect.

Like, every time she sent photos and like, I can all wait to meet her. So we got to go meet her. We got to hang out with them for a little bit. And then we went over to Haley's sisters and saw her niece and nephew. And so it was a day full of the children.

Yeah. We were exhausted. I was going to say how did it make you feel tired. Yeah, very tired. It makes me realize like parents really are just the real ones.

Because it is, it is just a mentally, you don't even realize you're doing, uh, like put an effort into something, yeah. Yeah, um, and that would like, we're just going to be the fun, ants who come over. You know, we're not even really having to do the parenting.

We're in that phase of life for like, every, like, I got invited. I'm invited to two baby showers on the exact same day. Ooh. It's the exact same time.

But they're always like a range, you know, it's always like 12 to four something.

They're one to three. And ones like in L.A. proper and the other ones in Calabassas. So how are you doing? I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

Robby's invited to one.

“So I think I'm going to have him go to the one that we're both invited to.”

And then pull down the four and then I'll go to the other one and leave early and then meet him. I see, I see. That's kind of how I know. We're definitely in that phase of like showers and babies and birthdays and all the things.

Yeah. It's fun. It is fun. But yeah, so we had a pretty chill weekend on Saturday night though. We did, um, after we claimed and organized, um, Marla and Taylor came over and we played games.

And it was so fun. And we were like, wow, you know, you really got to take advantage of these moments. Because they're, we are entering this new season of life or like you never know if someone's you can have a baby or, you know, like, just these moments of being able to garden and, and order

You know, goes quick. It does go quick.

So trying to just embrace those moments of their friends of the friends who want the children.

We started sleeping without, um, without white and ways. Why? Because it's like bad. Like interrupts your REM cycle. Oh my gosh.

“And honestly, I think we're sleeping better.”

The silence interrupts my REM cycle. And what we, uh, turn the team, we put the TV on a timer. So we're like, okay, we're ready to go to bed. We put the TV on for 30 minutes. So we have that to fall asleep and then it turns off.

And then we just have silence the rest of the night. Whoa. Yeah. We have her, um, what's it called?

Our air purifier makes noise.

Oh. But I also have a white noise machine on. Yeah. We have like the full white noise. It's like louder than, at a alarm clock. But if people have slept with a fan on or like air conditioning on their whole life,

it's just, it just goes so low. Interrupting their REM sleep? Yeah. It's like my six minutes or something. It does.

I don't know. Where did you just saw that on the Instagram room? No, it was a morning hack on the morning show. Yeah. And there's been morning hacks to debunked all through life.

I'm telling you, I'm living proof of it.

I actually think we're sleeping better.

But you think you're sleeping better every time you try something new. That's true. That is true. You think you slept, you sleep better with Maltape. But I sleep more of Maltape with Maltape.

No, you're not. You didn't give it to a camera. It's not forever. It's temporary. You put it on and it opens up your nostrils.

“How do you sit not stretch it into being making your nose bigger?”

If you're doing that every single night, you're not at every single night. This is nose getting bigger. No. I would start documenting that. How if you stretch for eight hours, if you do something for eight hours, it's not like

it's opening it so much wider. It's like a little bit. A little bit too much in terms of making my nose bigger. I don't think people would use them if it made their nose bigger. There's no studies on it yet.

That I cannot, I cannot confirm or deny. I think I sleep, I breathe through my nose. So I don't feel like I'm not getting restful sleep because I'm not breathing, right? That's my mouth as close. You sleep with your mouth open.

Why don't you? So this is your mouth tape is a game danger being changing. But for me, I don't. I have clear pathways.

“Yeah, well, this is a big change like sleeping in silence is like so crazy.”

I hear Sunny and her crate every like if she gets up to shake a little bit and then that doesn't enter after rums cycle. It's hard to say. It's a given take. That feels like a morning hack. No, we're liking it, we're liking it, we're liking it. You're telling me that sleeping through the night with white noise is more disruptive than hearing

Sunny shaking her crate. Because I don't hear her every time, I'm saying there's the occasional night where I will hear her or all hear him like go to the bathroom. But like I'd say nine times out of ten, I'm sleeping through the whole, like I'm I'm getting REM from start to finish.

When did you start this? Probably last. What's today? Monday, probably Tuesday, last week. Okay, Tuesday, Wednesday. Let's check in in three weeks.

Check in on me, baby. Me doing a check in on me. Something really devastating happened last week. And we lost Eric Dane to his battle with ALS. And I, I just can't, it happened so fast.

And it was probably not fast for him. And I keep thinking about that because people keep saying it happened so fast. Because he, I guess announced his diagnosis less, it was like less than a year ago. And I keep thinking about how like we watched this person who is this like strong, like character on Gray's anatomy.

And then, you know, he was just this like almost like a great God, you know. And watching him go through that, I was just devastating. And I just, I watching all the Gray's anatomy, seeing all the posts. All the memes. It's so crazy when you think about like even with, um, uh,

Catherine O'Hara, like they had these such iconic roles that like they will live forever in these roles. You know, yeah, it's so crazy to think about. But it's also, it is crazy to think about, but it's also such a gift. I was thinking about that for like his, his loved ones and his friends. That they, if they miss him, they can like go back.

I, I, I know he's a new for you, but I don't think his character was like a good guy.

“So, but I was thinking about like Gray's anatomy.”

Mark Sloan had this like character arc and he came in and everyone was like, who is this and by the end you loved him. And it's so special. It's also with Catherine O'Hara. These iconic roles in getting to like go back and watch him be so alive.

Yeah. Is really, really cool gift. But rest in peace, Eric Dane, we had that one hit that between that and punch the monkey this weekend. I found myself being just like, very emotional. I also think I might be getting my period soon, but I was very emotional all weekend.

Punch the monkey hit me so hard. I was watching the video and then I was telling Haley about it. And she didn't know anything about it so I was showing her videos.

And then she kept saying, I just feel so sorry for him because he knows he's like an outcast.

She kept making like a comment like that and it made me cry and I did it three nights in a row. She said, can he, she could, she kept reaffirming it. And he knows that he's being rejected and I was like, baby, stop. I could not stop watching these videos. And I'm telling you, I've probably seen the same videos five hundred times.

And yet like when I watch him cuttle, like the close up videos of him cutling the stuffy, send me down such like a spiral. I guess he's found a monkey that loves his name and his protecting him. Yeah. And all the comments were like, yeah, only because he's famous now.

And I like, you know, they were, they were really smart animals. I do wonder if they can sit there. They're still way, that he knows he's like slowly getting global. Someone said they were giving Cynthia and Ariana, the new monkey's like overly protective

and like guarding everything.

But I'm just, I need, I hope he's a good friend or she's a good friend to punch because he needs that. It's been hard start for him. The video of him grabbing the arm. No, this stuffy took him literally makes me cry every time I see it. Like, I'm like, I don't know what emotional state I'm in right now.

We're watching these videos over and over and over again. Like, they bring me such sadness, but they bring me such comfort at the same time. Like, what does that say about me? I don't know because I can only watch so much before I have to like let my brain rest from the start. Day on Saturday, I didn't stop.

My entire feed was punch the monkey. It's devastating.

“I'm also seeing what I think is AI stuff now.”

So now I can't really tell them to influence what's AI or what's real. But it's all really sad. Robin, I were like, how do we get him his own like cage to be in? Where he like has his own freedom and his own space, which is like him and his stuffy. But I guess that interrupts him learning to be like you.

Some people just don't learn how to acclimate. Yeah, I don't know how it works with people, but I'm talking animals. I think that they need him to be able to socialize and be around other monkeys. But did you see the zookeeper that comes in and he runs jump around and jumps on? I can't.

It's so sad. It just relates to people more, I think. And I understand. That's an outsider. Oh my god, how are you an outsider?

How do you consider yourself an outsider? I don't know, I do. Mark said to be to my own drum. Yeah, you do do that. Like punch.

Did you watch traders? We'll get to that later. Have you been watching Love Is Blind? I did start Love Is Blind, but I'm at the part now where everyone's still decent. I know you still take it down, Hill.

No, I'm in Mexico. Okay.

“I think the last, the last like Mexico episode is going on.”

Okay. But I know things go dark. I'm not there yet either. I just thought back, I just got into like the real world. What do you think about everyone?

I have lots of thoughts. I don't know a lot of them by name. I know me neither, so it's going to be tough to recap. But I also need to understand why there is one couple that went to Malibu and all the other couples went to Mexico.

So I was thinking maybe I had to do something with getting a passport or something, like maybe I didn't have a passport. So I checked you and it said that it was not a passport issue because I had the same thought. That production only had budget to send six couples to Mexico and there was seven that got engaged. This season and I'm like, I just didn't seem right.

I do feel like the couple that went to Malibu though, they were more serious. And I feel like maybe they were just like, let's not put them in the drama. Everything because they have an actual chance of staying together. So let's give them their own little getaways. Yeah, it kind of felt that way.

I'm like hello Nick Vanessa can someone explain to me why this couples in Malibu and everybody

also in Mexico?

“I'd like to my theory more about the passport.”

I feel weird that it's budget. They have like every, they have all these songs that they're paying for on the show. They don't buy it. I don't know if anybody out there works for love is blind. Please let us know because it was really bothering me.

Okay, I wanted to talk about an update from the Valentine's Day post of last week. We have an update, but we're going to take a break and we'll talk about that. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the burden of guilt season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families.

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So we had a little discussion last week about one of our scrubbers who had posted in the Facebook group that she didn't get anything from her significant other up two years.

Didn't get, basically, didn't get acknowledged with any gifts or anything on Valentine's Day.

So Tania and I had opposite takes and stances on it, but we got an update from the scrubber herself.

So what was the take like I like?

So basically the bottom line is like net net net net net net.

She did not get anything on Valentine's Day. She got him a basket, she made him, or they made dinner together. But she bought all the ingredients. He didn't give her a card, he didn't give her flowers or really acknowledged the day. What were the angles you Becca and Easton had?

Becca and Easton were aligned. They said it's absolutely bare minimum to ask for just like a card or acknowledgement on Valentine's Day.

“I said, you need to communicate your needs to your partner and if he's showing up for you”

in your regular everyday life, guys are dumb and sometimes Valentine's Day goes over their head and maybe he's very embarrassed that he didn't do anything on Valentine's Day. The bare minimum is showing up for your partner every other day of the year. So that's like, I was like, oh wait. So you don't get a card because someone shows up for you every other day of the year.

I also didn't know they were together for two years. So that did, I said, I said, you said, I didn't know in the beginning. And so that threw me a little bit because after one mistake of one Valentine's Day you would think he would pick up on that. And a lot of the scrubbers advice on the Facebook posts were like, you need to communicate

because you're just setting him up for failure if you don't communicate. And I'm like, I get that if she had expectations of wanting to go to a specific restaurant

“or I want to be welcome up with breakfast and bed, that's something you have to communicate.”

Communicating that you need acknowledgement on a holiday that's so in our face that there's no way can go over your head because I know that like guys are done. We got it. We got to set the bar higher. I'm just even telling you we have to. I think bare minimum, when he's doing, if you can't do the bare minimum for Valentine's Day when you're dating, what's going to happen for your birthdays, your adversaries, like I feel like

it's a, I think it's a problem. I think it's a concern. I'll say that. It's a concern. Not unfixable. I was just trying to have our girls back. No, no, no, no, no, no. I got a lot of heat. I think you're having the guys back. I don't think you're having the girl back. No, I wanted her to not feel so bad. I feel like she felt so bad and I just wanted her to know like, don't feel so bad.

This isn't the end all be all. Like there's hope. I wanted to give her some hope. Well, my thought process was like, okay, this is a conversation they need to have. And she now she can communicate like, hey, I don't think I've ever communicated, but I'd like to be null. I didn't know I needed to communicate this, but I'd like to be acknowledge on holidays. They were where do we stand? So the follow-up is that

she says the first year we were together. We didn't do anything. And last year I was the one who made

the dinner reservations at the restaurant. He shows up for me in so many other ways. So I was very confused about this holiday. My birthday was two weeks ago and he got me flowers the Monday of my birthday week to kick off the week and took me to dinner and got me a gift, which for me it's totally not about the money part of it. I just wanted to be thought about, especially when it feels like everyone else in the world, even the ones with crappy boyfriends and husbands are being

spoiled. That's the thing. Some of the worst of the worst of all stuff. This is it's an interesting point because she's seeing everything on Instagram. And that again, comparison is a thief of joy. I'm genuine. He spoils me at Christmas, but he did not grow up coming from a lot. Holidays and birthdays weren't a big deal at all in his childhood home, but since spinning Christmas

“and birthdays with my family, he's seen how important those are for me. We did have a conversation”

about it after I posted because I felt empowered and he said it didn't cross his mind in that he will do better next year. Don't get me wrong. That's a what? It's okay. Come on. Don't get me wrong. He was with me all weekend. verbally told me happy Valentine's Day and cooked dinner with me, but I was expecting more. Although I communicated expectations lead to disappointment, which is what happened. So I'm hopeful that next year will be on the same page.

Thank you for reaching out to me. I'm literally freaking out. My sister and I are obsessed with the podcast. It's gotten us through a lot of hard stuff the past few years. We love you guys. And then she said more info after listening. She listened to the other stuff. She said,

"I feel validated by Becca. The bars shouldn't be on the ground. It's our third Valentine's

Day together. Second officially dating. I don't think he felt bad or embarrassed when he got his gift. He was definitely appreciative, but wasn't outwardly embarrassed. He hasn't made up for it yet." My bad. I'll stand on it. I don't even know what this means. Charge it. So yeah. It's a good update. I'm glad she felt empowered. We're going to say where she felt empowered from. I'm glad that she said something because at this point, now she can see like

he knows. Let's see how he doesn't. He can't say, "Oh, I didn't know that anymore." I just think, like, what do they say? Disappointment comes from unexpressed expectations.

high. I mean, my expectations were, you know, insanely high. And I would never communicate them

to him. And he's like, babe, I can't read your mind. Like, I have no idea. I wasn't Valentine's Day, but it was other things. And I was like, you know what you're right. So now I'm just super proactive about communicating my expectations. Right. And like I said, I think when you have very specific

“expectations as you did, those are things you have to communicate because you don't have to read”

someone's mind. But you don't have to read someone's mind to want to be. And I'd be like, what do you mean? I don't expect this. I write you a note every single day of my life. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, get on my level. He thinks that you just want to do that. Right. Which I do. Which I do, but I'm like, you know, this is the level I wish I operate. No, it's a high level. It's a high level. Meet me there. Nice up here. Did you watch the winter

Olympics? Have you been keeping up at all? Um, so we have a... Okay, no. A little bit of a trade-off. If it's unseen bits for Leviland, I'll let him watch the Olympics. Wow. And on his birthday, I let him watch the Olympics. He is generous, folks. I'm nothing if not generous. Well, we've, we've been watching a lot of things, but we watch the ice skating, which was really exciting. Do you know who won a list of Lú? Yes, yes, yes.

“She's so lucky. I did like the ice skating. I love... So I think it's Lú.”

Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, a list of Lú. Well, has everyone been saying it wrong or am I just hearing it wrong? I have already ever sang it herself. So Lú is Lú. Yes. She's so cute. And I love her mentality,

because when I first watch her, the Terralopenski and Johnny, where we're talking about how she

just has no expectation. She just was like there to skate. She just loves skating. What? I have a side note. Do not let me forget. Terralopenski. Okay. Continue. So we, watching her, I was like, she looks... I felt like I was watching everyone skating. You could see the stress on their face. They were thinking about if they were going to hit their next jump, whatever her face was so relaxed. And just seemed like she was having the best time. And I also

love that she was kind of like, I'm not going to starve myself to be a specific body. Like, I'm just... I'm just doing what I love and I'm not going to like change myself to fit into this mold. And she won. And she won. And I feel like it's such a testament of like something that women specifically need, because there's this like box, especially in Olympic sports. I feel like you're supposed to fit into this mold and look a certain way and act a certain way. And she was just

like, I'm just doing something I love. And if I win, amazing, if I don't win, amazing. That reminds me of um, shoot. Her name is escaping me now. The woman that won the gold in, um, shoot. Hold on. I texted it to myself. Elena Myers. Yes. Back up. Yes. What did she win the golden? She won in the Bob sledding. Wow. Thank you. So after she won, she thanked like her family, opposition to her kids and her husband. And then she thanked her nannies. And I was like,

it's so interesting to me that women feel like they need to like, they, they want to thank the people that are helping them take care of their kids so that they can spend the time training and

doing all these things. Like, there are many men that also have managed to have never once ever,

ever, ever thanked them in any sort of capacity. And like you were saying, Halsey did the same thing during like one of her shows, thanked her, sitter her nanny. And it just like really, it like, it was an interesting thing because Robbie actually picked up on it. He was like, wow, like thanking her nannies because she wouldn't be able to be as good and do this without having help. And the fact that she like acknowledges that, you know, it's such a thing. Like women take it

apart, even though it's, she has a husband and shared responsibility. But women take it on themselves. I mean, mm-hmm. She's also the oldest one to Olympian to win gold and an individual event at 41 years old. Break in the mold. Break in the mold. We love to be. We love to be. We love to see it.

“Actually we're doing, we're watching ice getting one night and Robbie was like, I think we could do this.”

It was like, because you have very strong legs. It's like, I think you can do this. Holy crap. It was like you're joking. I need y'all to go to an ice ring. We've ice-cated before. We're pretty good. Like, you know, Haley's mom is ice-cating choreographer. Yeah. Maybe she couldn't, oh my god. We could just do like a YouTube video of her y'all learning a pair skating routine. I was like, you're crazy. If you think out there, there's, and I'm like,

also the way that they just toss these blades in the air. I'm like, you got to kick and I have

Yeah. It's dangerous. I was asking Haley's mom. I was like, you know, when the

the pair skaters, when the woman will stand on the man's legs with her blades. Yeah. I was like, how was that padding? They don't. She said it's just where it's the

“specific location where they freeze. I'm like, what am I holding their blades? Is it when they're like, doing those bands?”

And I'm like, are they wearing gloves? Like, what? Are they not getting slit their hands? Like, this is crazy. Safe to say, Tonya, and I will not be entering the winter Olympics any time soon. Well, okay. So because of traders, I have like, tear-lip and ski and is it Johnny wear wire? We're near. We're. I see their videos all the time. Yeah. And so I was like, clicking around just like, see their profiles because I watch traders. And guess who follows me on Instagram.

There a terror. That's crazy. And the Olympic gold medal skater follows me on Instagram. Like, what? I wonder if you could see when she followed you. I don't know, but I saw it said follow back. And then I was like, oh my gosh, like, I was with Debbie. And we were both freaking out because we watched the traders. I was like, oh my gosh, like, he's not following her back. Not like our Olympian like run, but like we watched the traders. He was like, follow her back.

I was like, okay, follow back. So now I'm following her too. Oh, okay. So now I'm like, like, I can do the bottom internet friendship with Tara Lipinsky. She'd be a great podcast. She'd be a great podcast. She'd be a great podcast guest. Neither were internet friends. We got so into this gating that we were going back and watching Tara Lipinsky's Olympian performances. She was like 16. She was just a baby. She was 15. She was so tiny.

It was crazy watching. Really excellent skater. Really horrible at traders. But still in the game.

“Yeah, because I think she's so bad. They're like, they're like tricking us. You got to keep them”

them in the game to like, you know what I mean? People who don't know what's going on. It's good. What did you think about trader? Where are you at? I think they're on to Rob. I think Rob might go. I think that I think the faithfuls might win. So I read this theory because I was just like, Mara Higgins is so obsessed with Rob. Like the fact that she doesn't even sniff him out at all is like so crazy. Mm-hmm. But then I read this theory that says Mara knows Rob as a trader.

She's keeping him close so that they can get to the end. And then she's going to like, sort of vanish him. Yeah, and win the whole thing. I hope so. Thank you. And then she's been so dignitized. It's crazy. Yeah, that's going to be, I'm going to be really sad. Like when they

were, when they finally started going, oh, why did Candice say his name? I'm like,

finally, yes, somebody. Oh, that was Tara. Yeah, she's a way. Why would Candice have said his name twice? I'm like, okay, you're too big of a go. Yeah, it's been a fun season though. It's in a very fun season. And I felt bad for Natalie because they totally just like screwed. I feel sad for Natalie. When she said like, I'm usually like an outcast and I don't get a like, she said something about like how she doesn't really get along with people or something and that she really like let her

guard down to like open up to them and then she got screwed. I would like got really emotional. I know that's the thing about this show is that it is a game and it's like you're, you're, the whole point is you're supposed to trust anybody or let your guard down. If you ever get to go on there,

“you have to remember you can not let your guard down. No, like this whole housewives don't turn on”

each other thing is the dumbest rule because of like, why would you just trust a housewife because she's a housewife? I know. What do you get thoughts on the possibility of Rob our being the next bachelor? Oh my gosh, I would love it. The girls would be so, it'd be bad. It'd be very, it would be like carnage. Yeah. It would be very bad. It would be the best season maybe of all time, but like devastating because the girls would just be traumatized. It would be very bad.

I could see him just not ending up with someone, just being like, I don't like any of y'all. I like snakes. Yeah. I think he is a girlfriend, though. He does. He was seen with a girl. I do more, but I don't think that's his girlfriend or he's hanging out with someone. I'm sure the bachelor opportunity came. He would take it. That would be, and if the bachelor knew what was right, they would go after him. I mean, these rumors are out there. They come from somewhere, right?

That would be an amazing thing. That one in Robert or when is the other when I hear a lot?

I could be good in its own way. The more sweet. Innocent. Delicate. Delicate. Yeah. Not as ruthless. Yeah.

give me Robert. Yeah. Oh, Robert or Rob. Wow. Very awkward. Let's Robert or one tidings something. Hillary Dough. Oh. Yeah. Sorry. I was just like still on the, the whole traitors thing. Oh, please. So do you think let's just predict because the finale is this week? Yeah.

“Faithfuls or traitors. I think the, I think it's going to be the traitors.”

If not Mark and Eric. It'll be Rob. Oh, it's his game to lose in my opinion. I think it's the faithfuls. Really. Yeah, because I'm specifically. How does that work? So like how many people go home before

someone wins at this point? So basically now whoever gets banished, they're not going to say if

they're a traitor or faithful. So that is like done. That part of the game is over. So now, basically what's going to happen is they're going to, what we saw the previews, they're going to kill one more person tonight, remember the person that goes into the thing. And then basically how it works when I think there's like five left is they kind of go round and they throw the red and the green things into the flame. Red means you're done banishing green means you want to banish again.

And I think they have to throw until everybody throws red. So there's usually two people left. Oh, yeah. It's between two people that could be a faithful or traitor. It could be a faithful or

it could be two faithfuls. It could be two traitors. I don't think I've ever seen two traitors,

but I don't think I've seen more than three people win it. Think that more I might be the one

“who gets killed. Because I think Rob would do it to make them think like we'll will,”

moral was Rob's like ally if it was. So it's an interesting thought. However, I think they have to break up Terra and Johnny because that's two votes. They're going to vote the same no matter what. So you kind of outnumbered unless you kill one of them. So one of them has got to go. I think Terra. No, I think Johnny might go. I think Johnny's going to go. Okay. Love you, Terra. Lepinsky, my new friend, but she's just so off.

Like we need the chaos. Okay. So Johnny goes. Okay. And then I think Terra and Mora might win. You think? I'd like to see it. You'd like to see it. I'd like to think that Mora's known this whole time and it's just keeping her enemies close. Sir? That would be epic. If Mora did that, I'd be very happy. However, I think it's Rob's game to lose. Okay. All right. It's very hard to win as a trader. There's only been like a couple. So read and then the one guy from the UK. I loved his

see. Yeah. Yeah. So it's really hard to win as a trader because once you get a little bit of scent on you, I did not like that. And that in the microphone. Yeah. Once the faithful did a little scent. I know they're on you. They're on you. Yeah. So we shall see. We shall see the finale. The finale. The embarrassment to bridges of television this week is like between this finale, beast games, finale is this week and survivor 50 starts this week. Are you watching Love Story,

the Kerala and Beset? And it's on my list. Love Story and the Tyra Banks, the America's next-time model documentary. That was just like hard to watch honestly. You watched it.

I watched the first episode. And it's just best of the episodes. Yeah. I don't know. I would

like to see one that Tyra Banks doesn't produce. Like I want to see the role. Did you ever watch America's next-time model? Yeah. Oh my gosh, I was obsessed with it.

“And it's crazy because as they're introducing people, you remember them?”

Haley and I were like, oh my gosh, I remember these people. And then I was like, did I watch every single season? I did. I was obsessed with that show. Um, I do want to talk about Hillary Dough's new album. Okay. Because I have my thoughts, but we'll do it when we come back. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the burden of guilt season two podcast. This is a story

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second. We're back. So, you know, Hillary Dubrow had two singles that came up before the album.

I was a little, I was like, I liked them, but I didn't. I wasn't all in. Yeah. So when hearing about her album, I was excited to listen, but not like all in. You were like, I was like, I'm obsessed. It's all I've listened to since you came up listening to it a lot too. I specifically, two songs have been on repeat for me. Don't tell me. Okay. I'm going to see if they're the ones say ones that I like as well. By the way, you've been shared with me his for this song as well.

You know, I have discussed ours as well. Well, I'm, okay. Only two, because I have three. Well, there's two that I just go back and I've listened to the whole album multiple times, but there's two that like, I'll play on repeat. Like, you do with songs. Okay. We don't talk and growing up. Yes. Those two. Yes. It's where? Yes. Okay. So those are my two favorite and then my next favorite is whether for tennis and then holiday party. I like whether for tennis too rounds at my top floor.

Okay. Um, we don't talk is so catchy. So catchy. It sounds similar to the dochi song and the

“somebody that we used to know, which I think is just a really catchy hook. So you know, her husband”

Matthew Koma is like, yeah. Um, I might have to do a little research on this, but I'm pretty sure he did Carly Red Japsons call me maybe. Oh, okay. Let me ask Chatchee. So he knows a little thing about catchy. He knows a little thing about catchy. So I love, we don't talk so much. I sing it all day. If I'm not listening to it, I'm humming it. I'm singing it. It's very good. Haley loves it. Haley's name. No, Matthew Koma did not produce homemade meat. He's so spoiler alert. I was wrong.

But he did work with Carly Red Japson on other songs like this kiss. Okay. But had no production credit on call me maybe. So forget I said that. Yeah. But it was a good thought.

So that makes sense. I love, I'm with you. I want to go to her tour when she comes to LA. I really

wanted her this last time. She was in LA. I know she comes back to LA on this tour or it's a long time.

“We have time to get together. Yeah. I think she's touring like all of”

but the year. So I think he's been shared the same top two. Yeah, same top two and then he added in one other one. Do you know what that was? You from the honeymoon. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Those are his three favorite. Okay. Well, growing up is is it an interpolation or is it a sample? I think it's an interpolation because it's the same exact words. But it's a different, it's a different arrangement. But it's from the Blink 182 song, damn it. Yeah. There's that this is

growing. Yeah. Yeah. I went to listen to it and it was jarring the from her voice and there's like Blink 182's like really punk, you know. I even realized it was in her I was like why do I know the words of this song? But I'm obsessed. I love both of those specifically. But one of my favorite things was what Matthew comma wrote about her album coming out and the he wrote like a long did you read it? No. His post about her and he was just saying like her whole career. She's done like

what other people wanted her to do and this is the first time that she just wanted to write an

album that was like her truth and like what she had been going through and like what it was. So I read this story that was about her and she was like I wanted to talk about the real stuff about like she's like I'm a mom and I have kids. I didn't want this album to be like I'm so stressed picking up my kids from school and making them dinner and like that part of like the motherhood. She was like I wanted to talk about like all the other like layers to it and stuff

which is like the one I call it a party where her husband's like cheating on her and like those insecurities and like all you know to me and I was like that's so deep that she's like sharing that.

“But I just love it because he was basically like she I think it's so cool that of course everyone's”

always loved Hillary stuff like there's never been a moment even when she she's our unproblematic

queen. Every yeah even when she wasn't really doing anything that was in the spotlight people still wanted more from her since she was on Lizzy McGuire like that's been her whole life and she's really interesting in that way because a lot of people have had that fame and that that attention and then once they stopped doing something people kind of forgot about them. Yeah and no one's ever forgotten about Hillary stuff. Yeah I wonder why that is but with music

because she hasn't released music and so long. I'm sure there was so much fear or like thought process of like what am I doing? No one's gonna care about me. I haven't released music and so long. What if people don't show up and I just love that everything has sold out to the degree where it's like we're announcing a world tour. We're doing it all you know. Yeah no people are showing up for her. She is she really is like the unproblematic queen. Yeah the only time I've like heard

any scuttle around her was this like toxic mom drama. Right and it seems like that kind of just like went away. Yeah well just like everything on the internet it comes and it goes comes and it goes. Also I have a little bone to pick with somebody Kristen Bell. Girl needs to stop taking my jobs. What else did you date? Um the show nobody wants this. I could have played her character. I'm living it. You're not an actress. Whatever to made her tomato. It's very close to action.

I actually think you're Erin Foster. Yeah Erin Foster's life. Yes. She's really taking she's taking your life. Yes. Yes that is. Kristen Bell's simply a vessel. But now Kristen Bell

“has taken my role in sonic the hedgehog for as Amy Rose. And I think it was probably between”

y'all two at the end and they and Cristiano edge up. Yeah you know can we hear just a line another one bites the dust can we hear a line and your Amy Rose voice just just come on Sonic let's go up. I mean the kept kept the coast clear. I don't know to say give me a line. That's not it. That's different than you. You did before. Yeah that's very high and I almost felt like I couldn't hear what you're saying because it was so high. Let me get a like a actual line. Sonic you're a good friend. Anything else? That's all gave me

I'll say more please. I get here we go. If I had to choose between the world and sonic I would choose Sonic. It's good. It needs some Sonic wait for me. It needs some like cleaning up.

girl. That's scary. I sent you a couple of more sample lines from Amy via text here so I feel like it was

it had more I don't know there's more character to it right now you're just doing your cellar. Wow tails you did it but yeah it's not hitting. You're just doing tiny high pitch this had more of a character to it. Yeah wow tails you did it but what are you doing here on this island? You didn't do that with your lips. I didn't know. I think that felt stronger. I think it was a step in the right direction. I feel as though the fact that I can't do the same voice every time.

“I know problematic. That's what was going to hinder you. They had to go with someone who had”

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“I think we give it up till we find the one wrong. We shouldn't be like workshopping so much”

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