BREAKING: Federal Court Arraignment for Attacker

arranged in federal court today.

“Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Secular.”

We want to hear from you, share and post your comments, or call 1-800-684-311-0. At now your host, Logan, Secular, look at the Secular, of course we are going to be talking about what ended up being the not White House correspondent dinner, of course, a lot of us were watching live as the event unfolded. Of course, the final situation ended with the attacker, the alleged potential shooter

being detained.

And now we're going to have some big updates today, as today he will have his first time

in court. Following this really closely, there's a lot of details that are just coming out this morning. Obviously this all happened over the weekend, but even because it happened over the weekend, it means a lot of the information is just starting to come together today.

The White House is about to have a briefing very soon. We're going to make sure we're following that if that happens while we're on the air, we can break in live to it just in case. So, no, if you're sticking around for that, we can go to it if we feel that it is necessary. I want to hear from you after the events of this weekend, 1-800-684-31-10, of course,

people are saying the third attempt on President Trump's life.

And look, I would have to say, this is the third assassination attempt that got this far. But we are this aware of.

“You have to be really understanding that this is probably a events that happen, a thwarted”

versions of this, probably happened daily in the current tone of America and probably look historically, probably as well. But now, give a situation where, for the third time, someone has gotten very close to President Trump. And if this one, the entire, I mean, almost the entire administration.

That's right, and when you look at really how close they were able to get, there's a lot of questions rising about the security of the event, more questions about the secret service, as we've seen this, and really Logan, people say the third attempt, but remember, there's been a lot of others, even that did make the news. Even back in February, someone that broke into Mara Logo had a shotgun, had a gas can, was

taken out by security at Mara Logo. But this is a constant threat. It's not like anything we've seen this public before,

where there is always threats against a president that are taking care of, but it not

to this magnitude and to this public, we're going to get into some of the, the background on this, as well as what we expect today, that this individual Cole Allen will be arranged in federal court on two preliminary charges. That will be using a firearm during a crime of violence and assault on a federal officer using a dangerous weapon. These charges are just preliminary, though, expect the, the charges to be read, that there will be, I assume, the government

will ask for no bail in this case. And then we expect also that there will be more charges that flow from this as this investigation, uh, continues on federal law enforcement obviously Saturday night, the investigation began. We are just at Monday morning, uh, anything that could have happened and that goes towards motive that could bring different charges, those will be forthcoming and could be a lot more severe, especially when you read this manifesto.

“Yeah, and now when you read this manifesto and you see honestly, how oddly clear headed, this person”

is clearly deranged and visual, but this is not just the ravings of, you know, where a lot times you'll get these and they're almost incomprehensible. You can't follow what the person is saying, someone who's having a clearly a mental breakdown. That is not what this one stated. And now look, you may be like me, were you opened up your social media feeding, immediately there were jokes. Immediately, there was most people, I feel like in my feed, questioning

whether this even happened, whether it was real. That is the society we live in right now and we have to learn how to deal with it. On the same incident you have, uh, you know, Bruce Springsteen, the East Street band out on their no-king store, having to come out and start to show or even in the show, praying for the president and for the safety of all of the administration saying no political violence. These are the weird moments where again, maybe

we have to look back at ourselves and hopefully have some sort of self-reflection. Wasn't like Fox News was the only one in the room there. A lot of people were, phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110 when you saw that come across your feed. What are your thoughts? 1-800-684-3110. We also have a very special ACLJ week, this week, the faith, under fire, double the difference challenge. We're going to talk about that a lot more. Come on up in the next segment.

that, no louder, you're taking in all this information that we are providing, look at

“if now announced that it will be at 1-45 Eastern time. You will have the suspect do in court today.”

We'll be following that. Of course, we'll cover it as well tomorrow. They probably won't be a lot of information that comes from that. This is not, you know, this is when they really just lay out the charges. They lay out the charges. They ask the individual, do you understand the charges being brought against you, et cetera? There probably will be a discussion about whether or not there is bail. I expect the government to request bail be denied in this case.

I don't, there hasn't been really any information if this individual has hired an attorney or

if this individual will be getting a court appointed attorney. We will understand that more as

the day goes on. But what you will see, I would assume is if the defense puts up some sort of defense for bail, I do not expect the court here to go along with that, especially in light of

“how big of news this is. One, I think also for maybe the safety of that individual who is”

alleged to have carried this out. But I think it also says a lot about where we're at. He mentioned that the manifesto that was sent to the individual's family members, about 10 minutes before he attempted this attack. One, there's reports that the family members got it and immediately started calling law enforcement, trying to let them know something is going to happen. On top of that, you also, as you mentioned, read it, it was so not, not clearheaded in the sentence. There's

jokes. There's, you know, it's not unlike, and this is going to sound horrible. It's not like someone who knew their life was likely coming to an end. Even said, like, I may be, I told people I was leaving for a family emergency, which it may be because I may be in the emergency room later this could make a joke. Those type of things, but also at the core of it, is what the likes of

“the, especially members of the House of Representatives that are on the left have been pushing.”

And you're seeing everywhere in the cesspool that is the leftists on Twitter, if they still exist, blue sky, things of this where they're pushing this narrative that not only is President Trump was he aware of everything that Jeffrey Epstein was doing, but that he was a part of it in this sinister global domination kind of way utilizing this as a form of exerting and getting to power, accusing the worst of the worst, the things you could be doing. Right. And you're seeing that

being so non-shalantly used on social media, the accusations against the president, but also hearing it from members of Congress. You saw that was part of what Eric Swallwell was trying to make a name for himself of. Before he was disgraced for crimes against women, it is what will, and likely there's an investigation that he could even be charged in that, that they were so lacks in the way that they would use this and throw around accusations against the sitting president,

that it became normalized within these leftist communities to believe that that is legitimately what Donald Trump is. And therefore, they are almost, in this case, it is incumbent upon them to take action because no one else will. Yes. He wanted to change the world. He wanted these crimes to be off his hands, that he thinks the president is doing. It is insanity, but it has become so normalized. Yeah. This is not a one-off. The rhetoric that is used in this is something that

like, as Will said, has become very normal. And it's coming, by the way, also in your institutions, like I've done about your schools, your colleges, it's very regular, tapping in your churches. Very regularly, probably not the churches you attend, but a lot of churches are doing this. We know he was very involved in his church. We know he's very involved in academia. Clearly, a intelligent guy. But when you start putting this kind of pressure

on people, and you start using this rhetoric that is indefensible and you start treating people, you know, not unlike Hitler, but even worse. I mean, you start throwing things around in terms of genocide. You start talking about abusing children. You start saying these things, the wrong person gets the information. And this is what happens. And sadly, I don't know if

there's a way back when the first reactions I saw were this was fake. And let's all laugh at

Erica Kirk for crying and leaving. That was my entire social media feed. Let's say 15 minutes after it happened. After the initial reaction was, was we are now going to troll that this event allegedly was with fake. So he could get a ballroom, which by the way, I mean, I don't think this fake is in the ballroom. I just think this adds some credibility to what he was saying,

one of the few countries that doesn't have some sort of situation like this,

“this secret service, you know, would much rather have 24/7 access to an event space instead of”

having to secure this, you know, something you can rent out for your wedding. And then, of course, we could talk about their main mental access security things may have happened. And then on top of that, you had someone who husband was within the last year, assassinated also,

reliving this and the first reaction isn't to go, oh man, and that's just horrible. She had to deal

with this. It's to find the video clips someone took and to just make fun of her. We are living in some dark, dark times when that is the case. When that's your initial reaction. You can disagree with everything President Trump has to say. You can disagree with everything turning point USA has to be a part of. I understand that. We all have very different political points of view. You could be completely against the war. You could be completely against everything.

And still not making fun of people. Still not, not same President Trump doesn't, you know, do that himself. Not belittling people, not hurting people. Specifically those who are maybe the ones who are the most sensitive to something like this. We had a lot of friends in that room. Many people that have been on this show, whether they've been on this show as guests or been on

the show as contributors, many of them were in that room. Of course, our minds all went to them.

“As well. And we heard from quite a few of them later on. But what happened when you heard about this?”

Is that where your mind jumped? Did you see the same thing on social media? I do want to hear from you at 1-800-6-8-4-31-10. And the ACLJ this week, we've been talking about, you know, we're starting it today. And originally it was called Faith Under Fire. We thought this morning. Should we change that title? I said, you know what? I actually think, due to the circumstance that no, you know, lives were lost or anything like that. It actually couldn't be more timely. Because it's true.

It's not just our faith. It's just a basic freedoms that we've had here. But in this special week here at the ACLJ, we are talking about some of the work the ACLJ has been doing specifically for, whether it's Christian pastors or public sidewalk preachers or pro-life activists,

people who have been treating, who don't peacefully protesting, those kind of things because

we are all in favor of that. It's when it gets to this level of hate that people become blind and like it like Wilson and like I said earlier, when you read the manifesto, if you will, which is

“really just a long letter, to his friends and family, you don't read it like I have many of the”

others where you read this person who is completely mentally deranged and is said stuff that's, you know, they're not following their own train of thought or maybe they think there's some sort of God, you know, we've had a lot of those kind of people. No, it's someone who says this is specifically the reason. This is the reason that the news has laid out for me. This is what my school has laid out for me. This is what the church has laid out for me and therefore I have no choice.

Like Hassan Piker and those people coming out they're saying, well someone's going to do it. Who's going to do it? When you start saying those kind of things, you get to someone that's just on the edge and this is what happens. And a lot of people have asked about security and hotels. I said, what is that going to look like now? Is that going to change? Is that going to change the way we now travel? Just like 9/11, change the way we fly. Does this change the way hotels are being

done? Where they will need to check your bags. They will need to go through things. We had the shooting and Las Vegas that happened so many years ago and nothing really ever changed from that. I don't know if there's should or shouldn't, but we can have that discussion. Look, I recently stayed in Chicago and they had me do a background check to stay in a hotel. I'm not talking about like, you know, show your ID. I'm talking about submitting to they were going to go through my social

media. They were going to go through those things. And I questioned whether I was going to stay there. The apartment goes, you know what? This is because there are clearly some security threats that are happening in this city that need to be addressed. And I have nothing to hide. So fine, whatever, go, go, go after it. But it did make me question it. And now when I see an event like this happen, you go, oh no, this is why. Because some of these major hotel chains probably started to feel

a pressure that there were some vulnerabilities. Now, should that have happened the day the entire cabinet was at the hotel? Maybe next time the administration could just pull out the hotel or say, you know what, for this night, no one except for our invite to guests are staying here. We'll pay a premium or you build the ballroom. Phone lines are open for you. I want to hear from you. We got a few lines still open at 1-800-684-31-10. In the next segment, we are going to talk a little bit

more about the ACLJ's work. We're going to talk a bit more about a big victory that came in. So we're not just going to only stick to this. We do know there's a press conference coming. We do know that the man will be a reigned later on today. We're going to keep all that coverage going if it does need to be broken into live. We will believe it will be a little bit later in the day, but we will see what happens here. But again, the ACLJ worked this section the last week,

under fire week. And again, we're going to change that title. I said, no, we shouldn't.

“As we're fighting to defend you, as your faith has come under attack. And really, your basic”

American values. We're going to talk about whether it's Christians who, you see what happened to this. We have Christians being handcuffed in the streets to detain just for being a street preacher, things that have been very commonplace in America since our existence. We're going to discuss that more at length because our deadlines in three days and we can't do this without you. This is the last time you're going to hear from me for quite a while this month,

where we can offer this kind of opportunity, where you can make your gift go twice as far. Go to aclj.org/faith.

Welcome back to secular phone lines. We're open for you at 1-800-6-8-4-31-10. They're starting

to fill up right now 1-800-6-8-431-10. Immediately after our broadcast, it looks like the White House

“will brief America, but also the press about the shooting that happened or the attempted”

shooting that happened at the White House correspondent's dinner. We will discuss that again. And when that happens, we'll get more information. That'll be happening. It looks like, likely after we are off the air. So just an update on there. Phone lines again are open for you at 1-800-6-8-4-31-10-10-4-1-800-6-8-4-31-10. Have your voice heard today, but I did want to pivot just a little bit during this segment and talk about the work of the aclj. You know, this is

again the last few days of our double the difference drive. This is where your donations go twice as far because there are other aclj members, which have to anyone who donates an aclj champions those people that give on a monthly basis. If you make a donation today, it unlocks their pledge. And they're ready to unlock. We have you know, I'm not going to make it as much

“as we can to where right now pretty much any donation can be doubled with the amount of people”

ready to pledge. So this is our faith under fireweek and we said that because the aclj's work it feels like more than ever really. I'd say in the last 30 years this work has it quieted down for quite some time. We still were working on it. We still would have issues bubble up. But it's been the last year even. It feels like so many of these cases have come about whether that street preachers or pro-life pregnancy centers or protesters. Things that we were talking about in the

80s and 90s are now just as prevalent today. And maybe it's just because time helps people forget what the rules are. But here's where we are. And there was actually a victory. And this is sort of the, maybe it's a problem with the American way of thinking as well. You need a fundraising team. I'll be honest with you. We have a team put together. What's it going to look like? What are we going to do? How are we going to keep this all going? And one of the things when you take

sort of the heart out of it, they go, you know what, Logan, I just want to celebrate when we have

these big victories or when a victory happens. Even if they're small, if they're big, they always

have global ramifications. They go, Logan victories don't really work for us when we talk about our victories, which we have many of. You know, they don't fundraise. People like the fight, but they don't really care when you win. I don't think that's fundamentally true. It may just be in the way things are worth it. And maybe the way you react because you want to get in the fight. You don't want to just celebrate a fight. Understand, when we celebrate one of these,

it is so we can celebrate and fund the next one and keep it going. That frees up the funds to then move on to the next case. So we'll have a few minutes in this segment. I do want to play a special video presentation, but maybe you could set this up for us. That's right. We've talked about this case and we'll explain the victory after we play the video. This video, we were prepared to play today already. We were looking forward to talking about this because it's a fight that

is ongoing. But this is a client of the ACLJ's Jason Cantrell who has been preaching outside of abortion clinics in Georgia and doing everything that he is told he's supposed to of getting a permit to use amplification, use a microphone. And the city had it on the constitutional provision that said, if anyone complains, your permit is null and void. That's called a heckler's veto. It's unconstitutional. And so someone complained, he was null and void and law enforcement came

to deal with it. Let's play this video and then we'll explain the victory afterwards. Go ahead and roll it. Jason, he is a passionate evangelist who works near an abortion clinic. When the moms are coming in the driveway right here, we try to hand them information, which is a gospel track and pregnancy info. So it has information for a pregnancy center where they can go and get free

designed to protect. Both his religious practice and his free speech he wants to get out there

“and change hearts and minds. Our pregnancy center in Atlanta it actually helps the moms for”

two years. For two years they can get free diapers, wipes and clothes. So we are offering the tangent will help but we also went off from the spiritual help and through sharing the gospel with them. Now the city force park is instituted to permitting scheme. That's completely fine. They're allowed to do that. And Jason in effort to follow the law and got one of those permits. And those permits originally said he was allowed to use amplification at a particular place

in that a particular time. And he always do tofully obeyed those limitations on his permit.

We were just out here preaching one day. Like I've been doing it for years and all the sudden and officer came out and said we got a complaint. We needed to turn it down. And I said well multiple supervisors have been out here before and they sent my volumes fine. The city of forest park Georgia essentially put a hecklers veto into the permit. Said if anyone complains about this permit it's revoked. Well of course the abortion clinic

“complained. They tried to hold him criminally liable. The ACLJ stepped in right away to make sure”

that that didn't happen. They don't measure the sound out here. They don't use decibel readers. They don't measure the sound none of that. It's just all revolves around a complaint. It cannot be the case that speech which a fence can be regulated and silenced more so than speech that is popular. For two months I had my sound permit revoked. I wasn't able to be heard out here. And as we know when we went to court

just recently the charges were dismissed. So I feel like my free speech was violated. But the city still insisted on putting this illegal and unconstitutional restriction on his sound permits. So we are taking this to a federal law so that we are going to vindicate Jason's rights in federal court. We're going to do whatever it takes. The process is the punishment. You know we're going to charge you. We're going to cite you.

We're going to drag you into court. And then hey we'll just dismissed the charges and you know just called people a lot of time and a lot of money. He has the right to speak out against abortion and the ACLJ is going to stand with him to make sure that that message gets out. Those of us who are street preachers we want to come out and preach the gospel. preach the word of God and we want to see God convict their hearts and change their hearts,

change their lives and we see children saved. You know I see maybe saved almost every week. As Christians we've got to do what we're called to do. We're in a spiritual battle and we need to be out here preaching the gospel and being a voice for the voices. So as we see there that not only do we have a victory of getting the charges dropped against him which is ridiculous. He did everything he was supposed to someone complained.

And then he gets charges against him. However now we have the city of forest park has agreed by formal stipulation filed in federal court that he will get a new permit with no complaint

“restriction whatsoever Logan. Yeah that's right and that's what the ACLJ fights for each and every”

day. Our team is actively involved again. You may see this and go this is in forest park and this in Georgia. What does it matter to me because even these winds which may in theory seem little those little winds all compile. So when people like you want to do something similar we have president we can stand on and say listen not only is this settled rule of court but look here's where we've challenged this before you don't want to go down this route. Sometimes

these can all be handled with just a letter saying here's what the ACLJ is doing here's what we've

done and here's what we're going to do if you don't and you know what that's often enough. Sometimes it's not that when you got to go to court which you know for our team sometimes the most fun part you know always want to you know sometimes a letter goes through and you're like oh man we want to take it to court but you know what the ACLJ has been so at this for so many years 40 years almost that that's not uncommon that we can handle things very quickly very aggressively. That's

right and we're also not done we want an even further victory gear where we push for a final permanent judgment that strikes down the complaint restriction for everyone not just Jason. That's right hey phone lines are open for you as we head into the second half hour if you don't get us on your local station get us wherever you get your podcasts we are live every day by the way 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time you can find that on YouTube on rumble on aclj.org or the aclj app or the

sale of news channel and beyond that of course on your some of your local market series sex

them all that but if you don't watch us or listen to us live the whole hour of the show is always

available each and every day at aclj.org or however you get your podcasts donate today at aclj.org keeping you informed and in game now more than ever this is secular and now your host Logan secular welcome back to secular phone lines are open for you 1-800-6-A4-31-10 it is the last few days of the double the difference drive and our faith under fire week

very much under attack and we thought about changing the title after the events of this week

“and I said no it's even more important than ever that we discussed this and look a lot of you”

have questions I understand when you have this you know what would be the third fourth I mean

it's almost endless amounts of assassination attempts on president trump's life this is one of the closer ones again stopped at this White House correspondent's dinner after everyone was already seated the event was about to begin a lot of us were watching it live chaos ensued and of course we've all seen the footage now where essentially the the a potential shooter had just ran what it felt like just busted his way through security when security maybe had their guard

down just a little bit as most people were already in the building seems like they had already kind of cleared that room it been safe and this happens and of course he was taken down fairly quickly president trump and the administration a lot of them were removed within seconds you know again maybe a few too many seconds you can have that whole debate of her what happens here and of course everyone is in shock everyone is having a sort of a chaotic response we do a call

I want to take really quick from Jerry and Ella knowing hopefully if you listen to Jerry I want to call in as well we got some lines open 1-800-6-8-431-10 Jerry go ahead yeah thanks for taking my call guys I don't know if I can repeat the beta that I said to your screen or button this is my thoughts on this this assassination attempt first of all you know if it was legitimate and it had nothing to do with acquiring a ballroom I like I said to your guy

I'm on a church security team and every Sunday we sweep the entire building we locked on areas that have absolutely I'm going to have absolutely no use to anybody during the time of the church service and I'll tell you what if this was legitimate then my security team from church could a came in and did a far better job of what occurred there because given the level of leadership that was present at that event and who was present at the time this should have just

absolutely never happened this mansion have never been able to penetrate this wall of security

with live ammo and guns and attempted to do what he should have done Jerry I could have stopped it by no no I got to finish it no no I didn't get to finish it I really got two minutes I was actually going to say I from the most part other than the you as it stages and not stages because I don't believe this is a stage event I do believe that you're not wrong in the sense of you look at just the bare bones facts of it how did someone get in like this that is something

that needs to be taken care of when you look at who needs to be in that room you know this is not the state of the union but you actually have more people a more vulnerable location hotel ballroom and more government officials I mean you're talking about almost everyone in that room in that line of session so look Jerry I don't disagree with you and saying that that a lot of church security seems like they're doing a better job at it now look your church is probably not under

the consistent everyday threat I mean yes we all are dealing with that a lot in today's society but it is a little different however I understand looking at that footage and watching someone just barricade them you know go through just smash through the barricade on foot now that being said they were taken out very quickly right I mean the secret service does say it shows our layers of protection worked right however yes it is unsettling I do think that the as Jerry was saying the

“fact that they got that close very shocking for many people as well as I think we've been saying”

there seems to be something wrong with the security of the secret service for quite some time now but I also think we should dig into a little bit more how normalized a this is a false flag has become an art as Jerry in fact that you brought that up three or four times in that conversation just there in a few minutes if this is real this wasn't just about ballroom I know you're also doing security for your local church again that show me that this rhetoric is working its way

three out society this is not just only far left this is not whatever if your church has full time security likely you know this is not where it should be but I appreciate your call look I don't disagree with a lot of your statements but that is interesting that that has become such a normalized statement we'll be right back with Rick right now

“welcome back to secular we do have some phone lines open if you want to call on the next segment”

1-800-6-8-4-31-10 go ahead and get in line right now we are joined by Rick right now Rick of course

we want to first start this by sharing our prayers and condolences to you and your family

constant light and someone we've talked about so much so on this broadcast is someone who was very excited for all the work you've done and of course has been one of the shining lights for

Jesus for so many years it's always been great to hear stories of her so I just we want to

start that we know our team sends our prayers to you you know perpetually I know that it's been

“a interesting few weeks our few days for you yeah thank you so much I think you know it's been”

a devastating week my mom survived cancer four times and we thought we just really had her through all these issues and then she had another separate unrelated issue just come up and so we lost her pretty quickly it was devastating but you know I do have to say that my mom in in the midst of decision time was so adamant that she was ready to see Jesus she would she was so calm she was so focused about getting her reward and just was a calming presence for the rest of us

that we're losing it and she she never wavered and there's a lot of comfort in that even though it's

it's obviously something that people deal with every single day but for me it's my first time yeah absolutely and of course again our our prayers with you your whole family it feels like part of our family so I understand here I know for a lot of our viewers we're seeing the same thing but with that Rick so we don't just spend time here we got to talk about what happened this week and I know you've been pretty actively discussing it as well and not just a stage coach and all

some of the stuff I saw looked like pretty good time but also this moment happened we've all been talking about it of course this alleged or this attempted assassination attempt once again

I'm not just the president we're talking about the pretty much the entire cabinet that was there

but then this conversation that all surrounds the entire your weight the weight that comes after where my social media thread became this was fake it became look at Erica Kirk let's make fun of her it became a caller who just called it who's doing security for his church who said

“you know I think our security's doing better but I don't even know if I think this is real and here's why”

we know sort of what spurs this rhetoric we can see it you have people back peddling already and then you people going further you have a Jimmy Kimmel going further and then you have Bruce Springsteen going on stage saying you know that's not really what I'm in I mean we got pray for the president there can't be this you know kind of political violence of course he is an entire tour that essentially is as much as you know you can be a fan of his music has

you've been inspiring people against the president of the United States we live in a very strange time where all of this is far too accepted look I have to say that that I think it's pretty clear what the left and what the media have done to president Trump they don't like him coming to Washington they believe it's their Washington they believe that they've got their rules and president

“Trump comes in and completely upends the place doesn't play by their rules reforms the place”

fires people this is what we need in Washington but the Washington types feel like this is a threat to their existence and so they have rhetoric that's outrageous what do you expect when you call someone a Nazi that when the mentally unstable are gonna hear those words and they're going to react because they think it's a good thing if you're calling this person a Nazi if you're calling this person a threat to democracy if you're calling this person pedophile in a rapist which is what

the Democrats and the media constantly do you cannot be surprised that mentally unstable people are gonna hear those words and think that they have to take action don't be surprised that there are consequences to your words and I'm not saying that I'm not for free speech but I am saying that there are consequences to free speech and so you get to put yourself into that category of charging people up who are mentally unstable and when you see what happened with Nora O'Donnell

where the president after this went on CBS normally news organization historically say we will not publish the manifesto we will not say the name to to glorify someone that tried to do these types of things when you have trumped arrangement syndrome you find a celebrated journalist like Nora O'Donnell willing to read a line and then in the most disingenuous response ever after reading the line to the president that you just referenced Rick then when he says this is ridiculous I am not that

in that to what the Democrats have called me she was oh oh you thought it was it why do you think

journalism that's a liar political hack going after using the opportunity to use your

“journalistic platform to to further the rhetoric that gets you in these situations and as”

lo and I were talking you read what was in the manifesto and it didn't it's obviously a crazy person that would go and do this but it didn't read as someone who was just out there coming up with these like hallucinations about the world they were just doing what they were told by Democrats in Congress what do you think they've been doing this this is the rhetoric and you know the faux reaction of Nora like oh I'm surprised that you think that this is about you it's also

phony it's also washington they've turned the president into something that he is not and that's what really makes me angry because I know this guy let me just give you a little taste five hours after my mom passed away literally five hours I get a phone call from president Trump in the midst of him dealing with the Iran issue I see it on TV they're they're talking about Iran I'm actually happy

that I missed this one phone call from the president because he left an amazing voicemail that my

whole family got to hear and it was a great condolences for my entire family extremely heartfelt but then fast forward after the White House correspondence dinner late night on Saturday night very late the president called me again to just check in to say how are you doing I know it's been a couple of days and I know how close you are the president met my mom in the Oval Office a couple of times and he just is this person who cares that happened literally a couple of hours after this

White House correspondence dinner attempted assassination this is the president that people do not see

“well and when I think is such a concern going forward is that we are at this this moment in time”

where people are becoming numb to this and where you're seeing a person put out a manifesto be captured not actually be taken out so there will be a day in court we will find out more about kind of what radicalize to this level but it is normalized also for people to write out publicly minutes afterwards make clearly this was a fake staged false flag to get a ballroom I just don't know where we go from here look I think you know first of all we're a society that allows

free speech so we're never going to take that away we need to say that all the time but there

we need to make sure that there are consequences I think it's good to mock people who have crazy speech I think we take you know acts and we take shows like this and others to highlight the crazy speech and let them know there are consequences of societal mocking and maybe people don't care about their reputation but we need to be able to show radical people in these moments as saying this was fake I mean come on it's just if you're I guess if you're not there and you're sitting

on your couch somewhere in another city and you just are seeing snippets you don't understand the consequences of what you're saying and then it goes viral because everybody retweets your crazy comments but of course it wasn't staged you know you could see the fear on Melania Trump's face when they when she heard the shots you could see it yeah Rick I'm really disturbed by a lot of it I'll be honest I was disturbed by one of our collars who had some legitimate questions about

security surrounding the president so security surrounding the administration I understand those saying look you know how the person get here how to get that far those are all questions we can ask

“I think that's that's fine to ask those questions it's when you start with almost the assumption”

that your first thought in in the assumption is it's very rational to think that of course the

government would do this of course they would stage this situation of course this is normal and we live a minute left I do think as much as there will there will be a brief call to of course let's call everyone to to calm down the rhetoric and those kind of things we know how quickly this turns right back around and even on the Jimmy Kimmel that happened within hours I mean they may have been pre-taped before but of course it still you know went to air yeah you look at

Barack Obama kind of saying we don't even know the motives and by the way Noro Donald read some of those most it was unbelievable but you know we need to be able to have faith in our in our government and we don't have faith in our government because of the past mistakes in the past

so much for joining us and again our good doll this is to you and to your family as you're going

“through all of this but no we so appreciate your time that you spend with us in the ACLJ audience”

we're kind you can hop on here today I do want to hear from everyone who is calling in you calling right now we do a few lines open 1-800-6-8-4-31 tan of course support the work of the ACLJ ACLJ.org during our faith under fire week last segment of the day I want you to be part of

the ACLJ if you can use your Rick Renell always great to hear from him it is our special faith

under fire week it is the last few days of our double the difference drive and looking and you probably been like looking me saying that for eight weeks it feels like you're right have and now we are wrapping it up it's gonna be a while till there's this opportunity presents itself once again where we have enough funds and resources pledged that we can offer these kind of big moments where you can make your gift go twice as far so I'm going to ask you today if you see the QR code on your screen

or if you're listening just go to ACLJ.org and have your donation doubled we are close to meeting budget for this month little bit behind we need your help ACLJ.org if you like this show you like our legal work either way it all goes to the same place it's all being funded again

this because and look at this team here in credible team on our video team credible team running

our social media accounts of course our legal team be a part of it as well none of it happens without you that's at 1-800-6-8-431-10 we're continuing the conversation of course about the White House correspondent standard that did not happen due to the awarded assassination template not just president trump by the way president trump in really the whole cabinet when you read the manifesto that was written by the gunman the alleged gunman later on you know there were

jokes that were flying there were commentary flying the calls were coming in even in this show where they questioned whether it was real that is the the sad reality we're living in right now

“with that I want to take one of your phone calls and I'm going to keep it going so if you want to”

call in great time to do it you got about five minutes probably left to call in maybe less than that

I'd say call in the next two minutes if not you may not be able to make it on the show today it's going to marry an in Texas online one yeah how are you doing today I just wanted to say that a lot of people are gonna understand what I was about to say but I was I was glad that nobody got hurt but I was glad that the guy did shoot the police in the chest because had he not shot far to shot it anybody and thank goodness he got he didn't get injured they would have started

coming up with well he didn't really have intentions to hurt anybody look he didn't shoot anybody yeah he had knives what are you going to do with knives and stuff so I'm glad that he did get shot so that they can go through with that and they're going to go ahead and be able to process go after him for the full extent of the law maybe another is some conversation surrounding that we're going to find out a lot more probably here in the next couple hours the press conference

of what that happened we do know there were a lot of weapons well he was right he regardless of what who got shot how they got shot or of course the attack this was someone who had very clear motives and was there with multiple uh high-powered weapon that's well he had a shotgun he had a pistol a 38 caliber uh pistol as well as uh knives multiple knives and to that point the with that coupled with the manifesto that was sent to family members that is talking about wanting to carry

this out plus traveling by train from California going through Chicago to Washington DC it for the investigators and the prosecutors that shows the intent it shows that he had intent to avoid airports to get firearms into the district of Columbia uh to carry these things that were armed he he had intent so even without the member of secret service that was hit in the plate carrier and they were saying is is doing fine was actually the combination of his plate carrier and his

“phone stopped a bullet um i think even without that they have more than enough to go forward with uh”

they're talking about they have these two preliminary charges but that more will follow even a assassination uh codes that could lend life in prisons so right this individual is not just getting hit for this uh assault against a police officer with a deadly weapon charge that is just so they can be detaining him right now i'm not going to be surprised when he becomes some sort of weird hero of uh this far far extremist like a Luigi situation where you have him lauded as this uh

you know political icon if you will it feels like it's all headed that well and you're going to see a weird uh hypocrisy because the same people are saying clearly it's a hoax they're going to be praising him as being uh some sort of vigilante hero uh because that is how the mindset of these

it was real right let's go ahead and take another call let's go to Lynette in New York Lynette

“go ahead thank you guys bless you i just wanted to say out well thank you to everything that all”

of you're doing and got bless you but i just wanted to say that uh for all of us who uh appreciate and even um really love and respect um Donald Trump and who loves America and who um appreciate free speech this needs to be an opportunity for us to be ready to take um fire and take aim but not with bullets but with positive speech here's a list here uh of all the reasons that i and glad about President Trump being our president here's here's all the positive things that i've seen

here's the ways the reasons that i appreciate and all of us need to speak up and not be silent

and not be shocked or whatever else but we need to fire back with positive free speech

“Lynette i agree with you i'm only cutting off for time and i appreciate so much by the”

ear and acl j champion and you get it but not unlike the conversation i had earlier what i was doing the fundraising pitch is that you know like i said when victory is a lot of times that my fundraising team will say you can't talk too much about victories because people want to know about the action currently happening they don't really care once you've done it they it's a lot hard easier to make bad news uh the news to make good news it's a lot easier to get clicks on

something salacious than it is to get clicks on something positive there are plenty of good things president has done look to try plenty bad things the administration has done true for every administration probably in the history of time it's it by the way it's the truth for every human being in the history of time other than uh you know Jesus Christ take that aside all of us have had good and bad days all of us have made big mistakes and all of us have had some big successes

hopefully but it's a lot easier to dwell on the mistakes it's a lot easier to dwell on the negative a lot easier to dwell on because the president trump doesn't do this also as well it's become a bit of sadly America and probably the world by the way in 2026 well and that's one thing I did want to say as well we had a caller that got it was up but uh didn't hang on the line it was Julie from California I don't know if it's the long-time caller in support of ACL but Julie but said this the the summary

that I saw in our in our screener here it was that it said trump's rhetoric is is a primary problem of this as well and I I don't disagree to some level that the rhetoric is out of control but I would also say I think that the what the president's rhetoric is also is a symptom of where the American division was headed even before his election that it had been become so people on the right had felt so marginalized during the Obama years that it was refreshing to hear a brawler

out there someone that would just say what they wanted to hear about how the left treated but people of faith conservatives and just say I'm gonna fight back at this establishment it is completely different calling fake news you are fake news and saying this person is literally Hitler over and over and then ratcheting it up even more saying he is a part of some

“global network that people feel like the only thing they can do is what this individual felt”

like they could do those are two very different hands with that that's gonna wrap up our show for today for this Monday we'll be back tomorrow and of course we are following all of this if anything needs to break we will make sure that you subscribe to our YouTube channel a rumble channel follow us on our social media platforms if you didn't catch the full show you can find it archived later on immediately following at aclj.org or having you to podcast we are there again

it is faith under fire week during the final days of our double the difference drive

be a part of it today have your gift go twice as far right now we'll be back tomorrow on second