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“This is something we've talked about. This is something we've seen even frustration of why can't we get there?”

Why can't we see real accountability?

We know the evidence that's been laid out about this.

But what we're finding out now is that the investigation is no longer just happening in Florida. There was a grand jury impound in South Florida where they were hearing evidence about namely John Brennan, the former CIA director, which we know, pushed forward this Russian narrative even when other individuals in the CIA were telling him this, this is not credible. This does not live up to our standards as the CIA, and he said, "Well, doesn't it just ring true?" But we're also finding out it is expanding to Washington, DC, that a grand jury is impandelled there as well

and that there are cooperating witnesses that are going before that grand jury giving testimony. So we know now that former senior intelligence and FBI officials are cooperating with the DOJ on this Jordan. Yeah, I mean, I think when you look at this and you realize again that these investigations, you got top individuals here like former CIA directors. You've got to have a serious team on it and obviously what happened when the acting attorney general came in, he saw that this career prosecutor had been on this, but there wasn't someone who had come from the outside or maybe a specialist

to going after individuals that high ranking, and that's not your average just CIA agent that you're investigating for crime. This is your CIA director, and if you truly believe that the criminal investigation is warranted,

“the speed at which this one has gone is been very slow, and I feel like you'd either find, you should know what you're looking for,”

when it comes to criminal acts, and either you find the evidence that is going to be strong enough to bring to a court, to a jury, to a grand jury, or you're going to have to come out and say, listen, there were things that we think were wrong along the way that's different than building a court case actually sitting somewhere to jail. That was what the questions I had, is what is the endgame of all of this, when you have this so many years later and we're dealing with situations that feel at this point,

based on everything we've gone through almost like ancient history, I know it's not, but what's the endgame of these investigations? Well, and I think once you look at also what Tulsi Gabbard released, even last week, the ongoing issue of this conspiracy, how it even tied in with that impeachment over the Ukraine phone call, was really perpetrated by the same people that pushed this hoax on the American people. The endgame is accountability. The endgame is for the DOJ is obviously to try and bring about a prosecution.

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And have your gift doubled, haven't go twice as far at aclj.org. Welcome back to Secular. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-6-8-4-31-10. I had just noticed that a lot of you have just popped on and are joining us on all our different platforms.

Whether that is on YouTube or Rumble or any of the platforms we're on. But I think we need to reset what's going on because there is obviously confusion. We start talking about these investigations that start stemming back a decade. With the amount of time that has elapsed. The amount of things that have happened. This is still important and it's good. Look, I think it's important to know that your DOJ cares to still be following up on these things and not to sweep them under the rug. Well, and I think that is part of the frustration is that almost many of these people think if we can just extend this out long enough or we can win enough elections.

I'll never be held accountable. What you see here is specifically related to a deposition that John Brennan gave to Congress in 2023 where it was the judiciary committee was Jim Jordan also asking questions about this doing congressional oversight investigations and still pushing the lies that we now know were lies. We have the evidence from the intelligence community themselves that was released by the director of national intelligence tells he gathered that show that they knew what they were saying wasn't true and they were still pushing this Russia hoax on the American people for one reason one reason only and that is to bring down a sitting president.

It was an internal coup this was the deep state in conjunction with former people in those offices still pushing a narrative that's why President Obama said you have to do a new intelligence community assessment ICA as quick as you can now that he's won the election. They didn't expect it to happen they thought they'd done enough damage but when President Trump won they had to change the entire script and they knew the things they were basing it on were false or erroneous or not up to the standards of the CIA and our intelligence community.

“And so Jordan when the oversight continued even into 2023 because of the makeup of Congress and then the presidency changing hands to after the COVID era.”

What we see is that they were still trying to get at the truth even though we know that the it appears to the intelligence committee had all the documentation.

I mean here we also know Jim Jordan said that back to in 2023 that it's clear to him now and this is his opinion in view that John Brandon when he was under oath and testifying before the just shared committee and sometimes those are done behind closed doors. That when he said the CIA had nothing to do with it they had evidence to show that that was a true and it would have been at the levels of a John Britain type would have been at low level officials that John Britain wouldn't oversee if they were helping to write and then distribute the steel dossier which they used to say.

So the president Trump was not qualified to even run for president United States or be the president United States and even after he was president you know in Mueller impeachment impeachment nonstop and and I think even still to this day the Russia Ukraine war people questions you really on the right side while we're we've been supplying the number world number one supplier of weapons to Ukraine in the world has been the United States of America.

“And Trump has been doing that and yet still he has to deal with every day all he's a puppet of Putin somehow the question is it to me is like almost not any more about like how this how much the CIA was involved it's wasn't at what level.”

Were they logging to Congress and then can you connect those crimes there yeah what were the crimes that we're bringing wasn't writing the steel dossier with Christopher steel there's a lot of people that would have to be involved in a conspiracy like this and then if you go into a conspiracy to take down a president of the United States after they were elected as well so they didn't stop it say oh you know what he beat us. We're going to leave this behind they kept it going to go and then they did it in peace. I guess if they keep going then might as well we might as well keep going against the other sides what the DOJ is thinking.

And I think what's also important to point out here is that while we look at these things and we think oh man that now this has been going on 10 years will anyone ever get held accountable there are a lot of big stories in in our news cycle that are wanting accountability for things that have happened a long time ago.

And realizing that just because something started 10 years ago and clearly the conspiracy continued on.

“It doesn't mean that there should get a free pass and that we should not think this is important remember they were trying to take down this is the party of democracy of of saving democracy someone that was elected by the people.”

Trying to get out of office not by waiting four years in running a clean campaign and trying to win at the ballot box by trying to find ways to tarnish the reputation and bring it down internally.

And maybe the audience can tell me this is something though that win that election happened in 2020. I'm sorry 2024 and it was a fairly what you consider a modern landslide for President Trump winning the electoral and the vote. I thought did does that it doesn't end the corruption but is that the answer to the corruption do you care after that I'm curious if you care like look I understand why it's important I understand why they should be doing this it's does the American people find it to be worth their time to invest in this story when as you said so much has happened in the meantime.

And look a lot of you are asking about Virginia we're going to get to that in the next second here so if you tuned in also wondering about the redistricting situation going on in Virginia don't worry if you want to call in on that you can at one eight hundred six eight four thirty one ten it's going to be a topic we hit coming up.

“Well I think personally this all ties back to even stuff we talked about yesterday when we talked about the mayor of New York and and pushing his agenda and we brought up that speech by Clarence Thomas the that was given at University of Texas about.”

Well the foundational documents a declaration of independence and how the the progressivism that we are seeing that he referenced you know started with Woodrow Wilson and has permeated it has.

easily coexisted with American founding documents but it is not something that can live forever co exist forever and when you look at even this battle. Not it's not just about president Trump it's not just about the deep state or these bad actors that were within it. It is really a clash between foundational constitutional republic and our founding documents and everything we're based on.

In the way that the deep state is trying to completely subvert our American system of government and try to.

“The only thing that matters and that tilts the scales in elections in policy and everything I think that they don't like that under the Trump administration while the CIA plays a very critical role in our national security.”

They're not put for it is like. People to go on TV every weekend they sometimes do but every weekend to push a political narrative and that's what the Obama intelligence world was kind of weaponized into doing right. They weaponized it into just another part of the political machine I think they did a very good job of doing that in the sense of saying listen you can't question the president. I'm the head of the CIA so if he's telling you this and I'm telling you this and I gave him the information and we're the CIA but when you realize how politically active they all were.

“Realized Donald Trump may actually win this election what could we do to make him ineffective we've got to tie him to Russia directly so first we're going to say that we think Russia wants Donald Trump to win.”

Okay, that's that's already again. Look at the situation now and decide whether or not you want to Donald Trump to win if you're the situation involving Russia and what we've done to one of their biggest allies to keep things cheap in Russia Iran. Okay, so in China did you really think they wanted to deal with Donald Trump again really. The second part I would say to that is then they had to craft this dossier. Go out put their names on it and say it was completely true thinking that because it was Donald Trump.

No one would ever scratch the surface and think you know what this sounds a little ridiculous and over the top and then you realize it all crumbled.

And I'll crumbled and they had to move to a phone call about Ukrainian prosecutors and Joe Biden saying if you don't fire someone we will give you a billion dollars.

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“We asked for Virginia callers and they lit up the phone lines so stay on hold right now Virginia.”

We're going to get to as many of you as we can throughout the next few segments so stay on hold we do need to give though for those who don't know or maybe haven't been falling very closely.

Really what is going on in the state of Virginia and what I'm seeing because again it's always a game of politics people who I respect or have respected before saying you know what.

I'm always against this. I'm always against the jerrymandering and the redistricting and all this but. Since it's essentially against republicans now.

“And Trump is the leader of the party and sell on its sell on all spare.”

And that is the state of America of which we live in which your convictions are only tied to whoever is in the White House and making sure that they are stopped that your political opponents go above even your own convictions. Full lines are open for you at 1 800 6 8 4 31 10 but will let's set up what's happening Virginia right now Virginians are going to the polls they've also had a early voting period where to 1.4 million Virginians have already voted today is the final day they are going to the polls today.

They close at 7 p.m. Eastern time what are they voting on a redistricting plan and this is one of the more bizarre plans that I've seen come out of any of these states because.

There is no even thought that this looks fair it's just this is where the state already the people of Virginia had voted on an independent commission and all of that that went into that yielded a map. That had six representatives that are Democrats and five representatives that are Republicans now obviously those could be competitive in some areas but as of right now. Six to five split in favor of Democrats. This is in the state that Kamala Harris won by 52 percent. So you look at the congressional representation and you look at the presidential race looks like it's pretty on par a little bit more in favor of Democrats.

This new plan will remake the congressional map to be 10 Democrats to one Republican member of Congress Jordan that is one of the wildest Jerry Mandarin scenarios I have seen.

And Virginia I mean for a big portion of Virginia is highly populated area is northern Virginia this is basically it is a suburb of DC and maybe even not a suburb of DC almost part of DC when you start looking at not just the people who live there, but also the major companies that are headquartered as you go out to Dallas airport you see only way to work and all the biggest companies from herd of have got towers there in Washington DC whether they're the the aerospace weather it's the tech companies everyone is everyone is there and so for these voters again and we talk about the bureaucracy being you know 90 percent Democrat and it shows you if you draw the lines right and you've got a lot of federal workers in the state.

especially bureaucrats and Virginia does so people go into Washington DC if they actually do show up at the office anymore and the president Trump's put some emphasis on that again.

“Is that you know what these are these are Democrat voters that's why you already saw.”

They most of the time they're leading the state occasionally we get a Glenn young can a click occasionally get a governor and they get their five year term but it doesn't really lead to long term Republican dominance in their legislative branch or the next election as we saw with the with Abigail Spamman a guy to see easy. She was she blew up her way right. I think we should take a call I want to go to Peter and Virginia who is an ACLJ champion look we know we have a lot of support in Virginia. Where the ACLJ was home to one point across from Washington DC so our legal headquarters aren't now but of course Virginia plays a big history.

We're not just a founding of this country but even with this organization so Peter go ahead. Yeah hey guys I'm a ACLJ champion but I am driving home right now from the pole I just went and voted. I am in the more southwest section Lynchburg a big Christian area so there's a you know there's a turnout there I'll tell you what though I really fear what's going to come of this it's been so. I mean they run commercials like crazy including Obama and others we got to make elections fair things are so unfair and every now and then they'll flat out say we got to stop Trump but most is we got to make elections fair fair fair fair fair fair.

It's it's outrageous and it's the lying that gets me like say straight up we're going to make it from 65 to 10 to one who's in favor because there's a lot of independent.

It's a state that has shown the Republicans can win that the former governor. Clinton young can as a Republican and again the congressional seats under the current map were about split democratic hat a little advantage.

“Six to five you know and if I think it was like redrawn and it was maybe like seven four you would look at something that you say okay maybe that's not as controversial when you shift it and say.”

You know what we're going to make 10 of these Democrat and one push all the Republicans into one seat and effectively nullify the Republicans left in these other 10 districts to make it impossible for them to ever put forward a candidate that could win.

You you are trying to turn a purple state a state that is truly kind of very independent and who they may vote for for governor.

The presidential elections and if you're sitting and you're saying you're trying to say Democrats not worth your time here not worth spending your money here because just by numbers alone you can't you don't have a chance against us. The president of the 11 Cs and that 11 C will give that to you well and here's the other problem as well that people aren't really bringing up just last week so this was on April 14th. The governor the new governor Abigail Spanberger signed into bill signed into law a bill.

“The ads Virginia to the national popular vote compact that is something we talked about years ago it kind of lost some momentum but this is a group of states that is trying to pledge together.”

That if they can reach 270 votes combined by the states that sign on then it completely redoes the way that our elections are decided. It gets rid of the electoral college its circumvince the constitution these states say that hey if we get to 270 we control the election. If we get to 270 we won't care what our state votes so a purple state like Virginia no longer could be a purple state they will only assign their electoral college votes based on the national popular vote they're disenfranchising their voters consistently in Virginia.

This is happening last week signing a bill in the law national popular vote compact this week they're trying to get rid of any conservative voices in their congressional delegation this is really scary stuff. Hey phone lines are still open we have a couple more calls Virginia I'm going to get to Scott next not yet we're going to get them in the next segment stay on hold Scott because you've a really important question a lot of people are asking about this of anything that can be done.

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Jordan studio will in studio Mike Pompeo is going to be joining us in the next segment we got a lot of calls coming in about the Virginia redistricting vote that's happening today and of course. It will change the entire landscape of Virginia if it passes which right now it feels like it is a very good chance that a well which will take it from what is historically a very purple state very split state.

Sure this is from the current minority leader in the House of Representatives that came Jeffries he told reporters last night it's going to be close because Virginia is a purple state.

So they want this strategy and he's admitting it's going to be close because it's a purple state it's basically 50 50 could go either way.

Meanwhile what it will do if they win is completely erase it being a purple state it will turn it into a congressional delegation of ten to one instead of six to five. I want to go ahead and take a call about this Scott's calling from Virginia a lot of you calling from Virginia keep calling one hundred six eight four thirty one ten Scott go ahead. Scott you there. Go ahead. It's going to have I'll read the question for me said I haven't seen enough information on this redistricting from Republicans and this is go well will be disputed the Supreme Court of the United States.

“I think a lot of people are asking what is is there any kind of legal ramification when it comes to a vote.”

Even if it was unfair we feel like it's unfair you know they're protected classes then the voting rights act used to do this and and most of that has been nullified up because we said okay we dealt with that long enough.

And courts overseeing but yes courts do look at redistricting you in this way I mean it would almost be that it was done to favor one political class over another.

So one is one political view over another so viewpoint discrimination and making it impossible for what used to be at least almost an even split in Virginia. And where Democrats okay to get out one seat lead that's a fair fight in a purple state that makes sense it's sometimes Republicans win the top level government positions. Right right and so there are ways to look at it it's different in the past which have been more successful for the left is to try to use race. And the other protected lines of class that are even more protected by Supreme Court president but usually when you take if it's if it's as kind of absurd as this one sounds where you're literally going six five to 10 to one.

It does raise the question of court intervention being appropriate even though they usually don't like getting involved when people have had a chance to vote. And I think the next call is about the confusing language we should take that because I would read it for everybody and it's pretty confusing let's go to Tom and Virginia time you're on the air. Oh yes thank you very much. My question they were quickly I voted this morning and I don't know hearing this a long time of course a lot of. But the way the thing was learned it I'm fully concerned because the way it was learned it it would lead people to this understand and so yes.

“And I think we've all been there Tom we've all been there in the ballot box for a second.”

It's only I think it's just even about a minute it's about a it's one sentence as a long sentence. Should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the general assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections while ensuring Virginia standard redistricting. Process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census that's usually when states do redistricting is every decade when we do a new census based on where the voters are in their state.

And it's even bias language saying to make it fairness the store fair. Right temporarily restore fairness. But a few elections cycles including a presidential race in there. Yeah just a few years with that. Hey Mike Papay was going to be joining us in the next segment but after that we want to hear from you 1 800 6 8 4 31 10 and pretty cool that happened yesterday.

We're going to discuss that coming up again.

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Make your donation today. It's ready to be doubled unlocked that match right now at aclj.org. [Music] On the back to secular secretary of my complaint was joining us right now. And what a day it was secretary of Pompeo for yesterday.

So I've got to start that. It's unveiled your portrait. It was very cool to see the photos from this event. So I've got to get your reaction. It feels pretty special.

It's up on the screen right now for those who are saying it. You with the current secretary.

Pretty amazing to see the history being made in real time there.

Yeah, I say it was pretty special for me and for my family.

He's a long time friend for him to take time out of his busy schedule.

To be with us was pretty remarkable. And you're right. You know, my son and I joke. You know, Jefferson Adams Webster Pompeo. I don't think so, you know.

And it was really something a lot of state department folks who worked with me on behalf of President Trump or there. And it was a pretty fun day. Yeah, it looked amazing. Well, I want to shift topics away from the fun stuff. Logan gets to take the fun question.

I'll go to this. I think it was portrait too. It was a very good portrait. The center from Connecticut, Chris Murphy, put out a post on acts. Logan would criticize him for saying Twitter in post.

He put out a post in response to what turned out to be Iranian propaganda. Wasn't even a true story about ships getting through the blockade that we're Iranian. And he responded with awesome. Now, he further has gone and tried to correct and say what people can't be sarcastic. Like, it's appropriate for a sitting senator to be sarcastic about a serious matter like war.

But I just wanted to get your take on this. This is a sitting US senator.

Someone who's been very critical of the war.

And in his decision to go forward is just be sarcastic and call it awesome that a fake Iranian propaganda story broke through. And he believed. Well, I can't tell if he was actually being sarcastic or not, but that's not the way anyone read it.

“It was read exactly as written, which was to say, isn't that great that these ships made it through?”

When it turns out it wasn't true and be had up in true it would have been awful. Offer for the Americans security for the region security. Now, Senator Murphy has behaved throughout this as if he wasn't putting America's interest ahead of others interest. He has literally made this political when it should be about American national security and to see that. To see that he was fooled as a senior United States senator and be that he would engage in this well.

We've got American soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines in harm's way is truly indecent. I think what's so concerning even beyond all of that is how those that are opposed to this conflict. This this mission from our military against Iran. How how lightly they're taking it. They would consider sarcasm, whether it is sarcasm or not or at worst case in arrow outright cheering for the success of our enemies.

They they tell us that this is going to put us in World War III. This is going to destabilize the economy, it's hurting everyone at home. But yet their actions in their words seem to not take it very seriously at all when they do this. I'm having a hard time figuring out if they really do think this is that serious or if they are so comfortable in DC playing politics. They don't think it's very serious at all.

Yes, sadly, I think it's the latter.

“I think they're making this very political.”

They are trying to win an election and midterm elections by talking about high gas prices and what a calamity this is. One in fact, this was created by President Obama and Secretary Kerry who set up the conditions to allow Iran to have a clear pathway to a nuclear weapon. And some president was going to have to do this. And President Trump boldly decided this was the moment that will only get harder from here and took it on. It's not it's not easy task, it's not a riskless task.

We've already had Americans killed. But this was necessary, this was not a war of choice by any means. The Iranians have been trying to wipe Israel from the map for decades. They want to destroy the United States of America. And they were getting closer to having the ability to do that. And so for a center to take it this lightly and politicize this in this way.

Not only puts our military folks at risk, but undermines the central thesis that is America is going to deter our adversaries through the use of power in a way that protects Americans. And so I'm troubled by that. I'm troubled by the way, the media has covered it as well. We have made enormous progress more work remains. But I'm confident President Trump will achieve the ultimate end objective. Well, I think we want to talk about that.

Look, for those who want to see that clip, we'll play it in the next segment. So you can see specifically from Senator Murphy. But I did want to talk about Vice President Vance headed back to Pakistan. Like, if it caught me skeptical at this point, it just feels like when you have a now second bite of the apple, if you will, for these peace plants and negotiations,

“Can we be taking these seriously at this point when I feel like we have already had so many, if you want to say false deals or false starts where the straight is open.”

It's closed. It's open. It's closed. Never going to close again.

And then we have these conversations that feel like there are a bit loop and we're taking people by the word. But you have clearly very serious Vice President Vance making these trips, but should we be taking it seriously as this war progresses? No, I'm probably even more skeptical than you are if it's false.

Yeah. By the way, I don't fault the President for trying to exhaust the Democratic Party's fair enough.

But the Iranian regime now, I don't know that there's anybody that can actually speak on behalf of them. I don't know who's going to sit across the table from him. Nor who it is that could actually speak on behalf. You've seen them be across purposes between their foreign ministry and IRGC and the active military. These folks have decided, I think, to take this all the way through. And I think that means that the United States is going to have to do what President Trump talked about is continue to put pressure on the regime.

The blockade is absolutely doing that. They will, we're all totally soon, miss payroll and continue to put that pressure on until there's something that is akin to surrender.

I think we can get there. I think we can do so with a absorbable risk.

“And I think that's what President Trump's going to be stuck with because I don't see anybody showing up there in Islamabad to say,”

"Yeah, we're happy to get rid of our nuclear material. Happy to stop our proxy fighting. Those don't stick likely." That seems to be the sort of like I said, rinse and repeat moment where this is happening over and over again. I do want to hear from the people who are calling in. We're going to take calls to the next segment, so 1-800-6-8-4-3-1-1-1-0. Go ahead and get on hold right now. We'll take your calls to the next segment. Well, one thing I wanted to follow up on because as we talked about, the politics that people are playing over this entire conflict,

you're seeing it kind of manifest in bizarre and unsettling ways in the politics of the country. And I think it goes back to there was a speech that got shared widely by Justice Thomas over the weekend, talking about the principles of America, it was at a celebration of the Declaration of Independence at University of Texas. And he talked about the principles that come out of progressivism. It's not possible for the two to coexist forever with the principles of the Declaration of Independence.

And when you're starting to see candidates for high offices in the United States, like this primary candidate for Senate and Michigan, that was expressing that the reason for terrorism is largely to blame the pain that Americans have put on people. It's completely flipping the script of what America represents, what our founding principles are. And whether it be Senator Murphy who's going to mock the United States through a tweet that happens to be based off false propaganda from the Iranians, or it be someone who's running for office and is trying to blame the United States for terrorism,

it seems like we are at kind of a crossroads politically as Justice Thomas reference between progressivism, and allowing forward and our core principles that we should be reminded of almost daily in this 250-year celebration that we're about to have in July.

“I think Justice Thomas now that the progressiv extremism we're seeing on the radical left today is inconsistent with America's founding and tradition.”

Period full stop. That's the reality of it. When it comes to foreign policy, they do blame America first. They think we're decadent. They think we're in decent. They think we're the problem.

In fact, all we've done for 250 years is our level best to make sure we put America first, but to defend freedom, religious freedom, property rights, human rights, all around the world for decades in a way that is noble and decent, like no other nation ever has. I think this progressivism will ultimately have to write its moment, but the tide will turn because I think Americans understand that that's inconsistent with who we are, the most fundamental values that we hold dear as we celebrate 250 years of America.

Mr. Secretary, thanks for joining us. One thing you said, they do put America first on their blame list. So really, it is a division between America first as we honor our principles and stand on them, or if you are on the other side who you're blaming first. I'd like your turn to phrase there. Thank you. Have a good day. All right. With that, we got one more segment coming up, and I want to hear from you at 1-800-6-8-4-3-1-1-0.

That's 1-800-6-8-4-31-10. We've covered a lot of ground here today. Okay, we started off talking about the expanded probe into John Brennan, the situation happening there. We moved on. We discussed the Virginia redistricting. We moved to Iran.

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Welcome back to Secular Final Segment of the Broadcast here in Jordan.

Right before we went to break, we saw some breaking news happen about the vice president going to Pakistan. Secretary of State Pompeo, former Secretary of State, who's part of our team here on Secular. A new report that JD events, like to Pakistan, has been taken -- did not take off his scheduled. He's actually going to be at White House policy meetings today. And there is not travel to Islamabad on a new schedule yet.

And it's currently unclear if there will be a trip by advance at all. That's what sources have told. So, the vice president is currently now not on the way to Pakistan for a new round of talks with Iran. And has not rescheduled. It's not a scheduling issue. It doesn't look like. And appears that there are some high-level meetings going on, which they are all the time.

But the JD events needed to be at the White House. So, you've got that happening in just the last few minutes. And again, it just shows you, because we were talking about it with Secretary Pompeo.

“Well, the fact is that you can go to the negotiating table as much as you want.”

But if you don't have people that you're negotiating with, that one even have the authority to say, "Okay, we'll concede on this. We'll concede on this." If you don't have that clear line of command, you don't really know who you're negotiating with, or if what they're even telling you is true. So, even if one part of the Iranian delegation said, "Okay, we will take back to our leaders.

The money that you're offering to unfreeze for the containment by the United States of our enriched uranium." And so, we'll take that back. But then another side of it says, "Never." That's not even -- it can never be on the table.

So, if the enriched uranium is never on the table, the 20 billion is never on the table,

those have been the only two things we've talked about as possibly maybe peeking the Iranian interest at this moment. And we were concerned that the money would go before the uranium will now. Now, it's no talks at all.

“And you have to wonder, is that because even in the lead-ups to this, what have been a second round of talks,”

there have just been no motion by those who claim to represent Iran to get any closer to really coming to any concessions when it comes to enriched uranium. And, of course, the situation was it worth sending our vice president yet again halfway across the world to sit down with Iranian government officials and military officials. None of which were sure if they could actually make a decision together or on their own. That's right. We still don't know, no one can point to a person like the Secretary of State Pompeo said and say, "That person really does have the authority to make the decision."

And it would be respected by all those different branches within the Islamic Republic of Iran. I don't think that person exists right now. And that's why it makes the negotiating so difficult. And it's going to continue to be -- the U.S. has got to continue to be tough on Iran. Try to keep the Strait of the Moon open as best as possible. If Iran is going to fire on vessels even out of India,

they're flagged by the Indian flag, then we need to engage other countries in realizing how out of control this regime is, that even some countries that do financial work with Iran are being shot at as they try to cross the Strait of the Moon.

“That's right. And remember, the ceasefire deadline expires tonight. So it's a very interesting day if they have decided not to go and have negotiations what happens.”

I would imagine the U.S. is preparing a major -- with the ceasefire falls. And obviously this was a kind of last chance.

President's phone is always available. If there is someone in Iran who could make a deal, we still don't know if there is, but his phone will be available until that last moment.

But I have a feeling that the U.S. military, the Israeli military, is going to be ready to respond. The moment that ceasefire ends. And let me tell you on the flip side. I don't know how much Iran has left. They claim things. They have usual weapons that we didn't know. They were -- they had that were actually operational yet. So we -- but we don't know how much is left. But I have a feeling they are too preparing for what to do at the moment that a ceasefire does, in fact, if it's not extended again through some kind of deal.

And the way things look is that maybe this meeting and in Pakistan could have done that. Well, maybe that's something that could have gotten as extended ceasefire to continue the talks and maybe figure out a way to keep the Strait of the Moon safely open. And you could make that a short wind, but it looks like, as of right now, the ceasefire is going to fold.

That's right. All right. Let's go ahead and take a phone call.

“This is back on the Virginia issue as Governor State of Virginia Commonwealth of Virginia votes today on this redistricting plan.”

Let's go to line three, Tamra, Iran's secular. Hello, so I heard another program where an elected official in Virginia was talking on this very subject of whether there would be a legal challenge. And he said that they had years ago a constitutional amendment regarding redistricting and that there were certain procedures that had to be followed. And this effort had not followed those. So they pretty much have their legal challenge ready to go. So should this measure pass today.

Tamra, here's the, here's the complication with it. And one hundred percent someone is going to file legal challenge.

But here is the problem is that this is another amendment. They actually are doing it the the more safe way to not get something overturned.

They are putting an amendment to the people and what is this amendment say, that's where it's clever. This isn't having the people vote on the new map. Having the people vote on whether or not the law will be suspended that they have voted on for such a period of time to allow the assembly in Virginia to make a new map until 2030. So it's very clever. It doesn't say, do you approve this map?

It lets the Democrats in the assembly make a new map. And that's why we know what the map is. It's a two step process. It's that they will allow this to go forward. And then the assembly can quickly redraw this until 2031.

“So I think Jordan, yes, there will be legal challenges.”

It's not a shoe in though because at least. Well, we disagree and the people of Virginia probably disagree to at least 50%. They are doing it a clever way to minimize the risk of a court overturning. So they're stateless, this is not forever. This is just to kind of get things right.

We think that is more correct for right now. We think that we're much more blue state, even though they did, yes, just like the Democrat governor. They had five years of American service, Republican governor who won. I mean, so these are states that Republicans win for president. The Democrats win for president as well.

So I mean, you've got a basically, I'd say it's a 55% 60 at most.

But Republicans have shown they can win statewide there. They can win, they can win all the way up to governor. And the presidential candidates, I still can win Republican presidential candidates. So this, like Wilson doesn't should tell you in the text that we ran out. That before we get to do this again into after the 2030 census, which would not be redrawn until 2031 for the 2032 elections,

is that they have figured out a way to take their 11 districts and turn 10 of them into safe, Democrat seats. And then throw one district to the Republicans. And right now, it's divided kind of the way you would think, 6040s, six Democrats, five Republicans in the 11 districts. And that one district that will go to Republicans, it's the district that borders West Virginia, Tennessee and North Carolina to the South.

So yeah, it's very much where you'd expect them, you know, okay, they can have that. Many of these Democrats would probably rather break up into middle Virginia and leave that part of the state behind as well. So, you know, we do a lot of that through ACLJ action as well. But well, this is why when you get to these amendments, turnout's going to be huge. We'll see what happened today.

“I think the greatest chance could serve to have winning today against this move by the left is turn out.”

And we will see if the millions of dollars to fight a left get people to turn out to vote on a referendum on redistricting. Folks, we're up in the final days of our double the difference drive here in April. Go ahead and support the ACLJ at ACLJ.org.