382: Kohberger’s Back, More Dirty Duggar Details & Quad Amputee Charged with Murder

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“You should have been listening a long time.”

We've got no I'm just kidding. But Mondays, we do our deep dives where I go into a singular case. Go down the rabbit hole, bring you all the facts, the speculation, the theories. What people are saying on Reddit, you know, they're social media history. Every little thing you could possibly want to know, you will find out about in those Mondays deep dives.

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“Is it? I think so. I feel like shit. Why? Well, you know why? Well, yeah.”

That time in the month. I know. I know. It's not fun. We're so in sync. Well, you were actually, we get ahead of me, and I kind of blame you for why I jump started. We can talk about that later. Wow. Okay, so I want to start with footage that look. It's not funny. It's not funny. But the comment section. I lived for when I first saw this, and it's about Brian Coberger, and new footage has been released about him going to the DMV to swap his state plates as he was evading police after he committed the quadruple homicide.

But it's one, it's an update with Brian Coberger that has really been circulating everywhere. You may have already seen it. If you are on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, you've probably seen at least a clip of it. I actually received a text message yesterday from Nancy Grace's team. They're like, can you come on? Can you talk about this? I can't write now, but I do want to talk about it. So here I am. Like I said, it's newly released DMV surveillance footage of Brian piece of shit Coberger.

And just to be clear, the footage itself isn't new in terms of when it happened. It actually dates back to November 18th, 2022, so five days after the four university of Idaho students were brutally murdered. But now this footage is just becoming public or has just become public, I don't know, I'm not the grammar police.

“But that's why it suddenly is now blowing up online. Because the video, it shows Brian inside a DMV in Pullman, Washington.”

And he's there to change his license plates on his white Hyundai, Alantra. Something that, of course, later would become a really important detail in this investigation. But honestly, what stands out most in this footage is how completely routine the interaction looks aside from him wearing gloves. But if you're watching the video version of this, I'm going to play it for you, but I'm going to describe it for those of you listening.

He basically walks in. He's super calm. He's polite. He approaches the desk and tells her that he wants to switch out his plates and he starts making small talk with this DMV employee.

And they're chatting about very normal everyday things. They talk about where they're both from, what kind of car he has. I mean, just small chatter at the DMV. Nothing about it on the surface looked unusual and certainly, if I were the DMV employee in that moment, I definitely wouldn't be looking across the desk saying, oh my gosh, this person looks like he just killed four young college students. Yeah, he has his weird BDIs, but like nothing on the surface looked unusual. But then there's a moment that people have really now zeroed in on.

It was literally just a few days after it had happened. So it was still extremely shocking to everybody who lives in these small towns and neighboring cities and towns.

“So they start talking about how she moved from the Bay Area and she says that she likes the pulmon Moscow area better.”

And she says, I like how small quiet it is. And I would feel safe, but the whole Moscow thing makes it feel a little less safe right now. But Brian, when he hears that, doesn't really engage with it. He kind of just says, oh yeah, and brushes it off and waits for her to say the next thing. But again, I'm going to play this for you for those of you watching and also you can hear the exchange for those listening. But you watch it for, or are you? I am. I am originally from the Bay Area. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, I like that enough here much better. I don't know, it's already better.

You happen to have the person orders or when you want it. Yeah, he's different. Yeah, he's different, right? Yeah, I would like to tell you, I like how we're considering why it is going to be safe, but the whole thing kind of makes it a little less safe right now. And I'm still a good family to come up with. Well, because I do need that. I do wish it was for a great one.

And I'm very, very, very grateful because they're really right here. Yeah, so obviously it's very subtle. It's not like it's this crazy smoking gun. But like we say here a lot, hindsight is 2020 and knowing what we know now, it is definitely one of those moments that stands out. And imagine being that DMV worker and not realizing that you're the one who interacted with him that day and came face to face with him. It's just so eerie. There are also a couple other details in this footage that people are pointing out.

As I mentioned, a little bit briefly in the beginning, he's wearing gloves the entire time, which we also know from other footage that we've seen in the days after the murders.

What did you have him at Costco Walmart? He's also wearing gloves basically everywhere he went.

Then there are also moments where he appears to be like looking around at the DMV kind of scanning the room. Maybe trying to see if he's being recognized, see if there's cameras, see if other people are talking about the murders. I mean, who knows, but it does feel a little bit eerie. So the visit itself lasts for about 20 minutes. And then he leaves with his new Washington plates after previously having Pennsylvania plates on his vehicle.

And timing wise, I will say that that's something that the investigators have obviously looked at very closely given how central that car became to the case. Now, one thing that I do have to address because this was what I was referring to earlier where it's like not meant to be funny, but the comments section was super funny. Because when I first saw this footage get released last week, and I was watching it, one of the most surprising parts of the entire thing wasn't the comments actually being like, you know, F Brian, he looks creepy or analyzing his every move.

“Sure, there were comments like that, but if you remember back to like the Costco footage where people were just hyper analyzing everything, that's not what was the primary point of discussion here.”

The majority of the comments were actually focusing on things completely unrelated, saying things like, wow, that DMV worker is so nice. Usually when I go to the DMV, they're complete a whole or troll to me, or that's the fastest DMV experience that I've ever had, or this DMV also, if you see the clip, it's very small. It looks more, it doesn't look like a traditional DMV, at least not the ones we have here in California. It looks kind of just like, I don't know, like a AAA office if you've ever been in one or like a small dentist office, it's like there's a couple desks, and somebody greets you right away.

You walk in the door and go up to a desk, there's no pulling a number, no waiting for hours on end. It's just very non chaotic. So other comments, you know, being like, I wish my DMV was like this or I'm moving to Washington just for the DMV, and like that, I just thought that was funny because I don't know. I live for the comments section on posts, I feel like they are more joyful to me than the post itself.

“So then afterwards, he gets the license plate, he leaves as I said, but I think that the reason that people are reacting so strongly to this footage, either on the side of, you know,”

well, that's creepy or talking about how nice the DMV lady is, is just because of how normal the entire thing looks. There's no big moment, no obvious red flags, nothing that is outwardly alarming, just a regular interaction. Until, of course, you realize who you are watching and when this actually took place. So I don't know. I saw you guys tagging me in the footage, as I mentioned, Nancy Grace just wanted me to jump on and talk gratitude.

I think everybody's trying to not, I don't want to say makes sense because obviously there's nothing to make sense of, but like, it's just weird when you again see part of his strategy and his cover up with the switching the plates come to life.

I think people are fascinated by that, I mean, I know I am.

So I don't know. The more and more that comes out about this guy, the less surprised I am that he did it, he just seems like a total creep and I'm sure this isn't going to be the last footage that we see of Brian Coberger. I hope it is, but I don't think it is. So anytime there's more information that comes out about like his strategy and how much he planned this whole thing. It's like, you really fumbled.

For what you thought, yeah, I mean, I hate this guy.

“I hate this guy, I like can't believe he's still alive, honestly.”

I wish that we went to trial, I wish that the firing squad was coming for his ass, but we're just going to have to sit patiently while he gets taunted by the prison inmates and that's enough for me right now. Oh, that's enough. You're tumblr. I'm just trying to say hi to Amy. I don't know about you, but Diet Coke's really bad for you, and it's very impure in that you drink lots of water.

But those are coming back. Shut up. Okay, so this next case has been shocking people everywhere. We're talking about a woman from Indiana who is now accused of killing three people in Illinois. On March 21st, police were called out to a home in Crete, Township, Illinois for a welfare check around 2 a.m.

After receiving a call from a woman's sister, who had said she had just called and admitted to killing three people. And when the police got there, what they found was a full blown crime scene. As they moved towards the house, they found two victims inside right near the front door.

And later, a third, inside of a vehicle and a cold assac, inside the same neighborhood.

All three had been shot. Those victims were later identified as 32-year-old Jacob Lamber, along with his mom Stacy and stepfather Patrick Ford. And pretty quickly, investigators said this didn't look random. It looked targeted and likely domestic and nature. So they're trying to figure it out.

What exactly happened here? Because you have three people all from the same family who were killed in what appears to be a very tight timeline. Because looking at the scene, there were no signs of forced entry. And two of the victims, like I said, were found right near the front door, which suggests this wasn't a break-in. That the victims may have known the person at the door and willingly opened the door for them.

And so as investigators started working back those timelines to find out who could have done that,

“that's when they learned something very important.”

Jacob hadn't just been home that night. He had been out with someone earlier, someone he knew, someone that he had a history with. And interestingly, that last person known to be with Jacob is also someone connected to the entire family. That person was 30-year-old Jenna Struble. Jacob's on and off again girlfriend and the mother of his two children. So after pinning Jenna as a suspect, investigators began to track her whereabouts.

And when they did find her hours later, she was all the way back at her house in Indiana.

She was immediately taken into custody and charged with nine counts of first-degree murder.

Now, as this moves from investigation into the legal process, more details have been coming out. And this is where the case becomes a lot more unsettling. Because according to prosecutors, Jenna had picked up Jacob that night and spent time driving around with him. At one point, even letting him know that she had a surprise for him and offered to give him a massage. She had him reclined back in the sea, take off his shirt, lionest stomach, while she used a massage gun on his back.

Prosecutors say this went on for about 20 minutes. Then while Jacob was lying there, completely vulnerable, investigators say she pulled out the gun. And according to court documents, she allegedly held the gun to the back of his head for several minutes, going back and forth on whether she was actually going to pull the trigger before ultimately shooting him. And from there, prosecutors say Jenna drove the car to his parents' home with his body still in the passenger seat while smoking a cigarette.

“And when she got to the house, she initially tried using Jacob's key to open the door.”

And that's when Patrick, Jacob's stepfather, heard the noise, came to open the door and Jenna immediately opened fire, killing Patrick. One inside where Stacy Ford was also shot and killed. Investigators say that Jenna later made incriminating statements during questioning and that a firearm recovered after her arrest matched the weapon that was used in the murders. And Jenna didn't provide much of a motive other than not liking the way Jake spoke to the children or felt that his parents were a little too overbearing.

The court documents read, quote, "She didn't like the fact that Jacob shoured with a toddler that people took naps with children.

Apparently, Jenna didn't want her own parents having custody of her children either, and also admitted to investigators that she had even considered killing her own parents as well.

“She has since been extradited to Illinois and is now being held in custody as the case moves forward with court proceedings just beginning.”

But even if this stage, this like level of detail that's coming out, especially about how this allegedly all unfolded, is what's making this case stand out. It's definitely one we're going to be keeping a close eye on and hopefully we'll get some answers through these questions as to more of the motive. What drove her to do that that night as the police said this was targeted so there was a plan in place, but so sad for those kids. You see, I wonder if there was like postpartum psychosis or something like if she didn't want anybody watching the kids except her, like not the in laws, not her parents, not the father, like for not like, and for the statement about she didn't like that they shoured together, not together, how they took care of the kids.

I wonder if there was something imbalance, maybe not postpartum psychosis, but something to where she felt like she could only parent them the correct way.

That doesn't excuse it, but apparently the sister said when she called part of that call was not only to admit to it, but then to also ask her to take care of the children and that apparently there was some past history of self-harm ideation, but that that had turned into them homicide ideation and so maybe it just kind of spiraled into this and escalated to something. I wonder what the backstory is to with the parents and her like upbringing and all that like maybe that's where the fear is coming from maybe there's stuff we don't know about and again not to like excuse it or justify it, I just wonder yeah as more details come out.

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“Okay so now let's move into the dirty dugger of it all and I got to just say guys.”

I saw your comments last week because we talked about this in depth last week and we talked about the charges against Kendra and I was kind of confused as to what was her involvement was she covering for her what happened. And then when the episode released at that point so much information had been released or was like you don't even do your research. Okay at the time of this recording here is what we know. So I'm going to just do that right now because it seems like information is dropping daily.

At the time of this recording this is what we know. Okay and let me give a quick recap just to ground us. But Joseph Dugger from 19 kids in counting is now facing felony charges out of Florida involving a minor. This is tied to an alleged incident from 2020. And at the same time his wife Kendra was also arrested in Arkansas on separate charges involving children.

More specifically in dangering the welfare of a minor and false imprisonment. So just to circle back to Kendra's charges from last week where everybody was on YouTube.

You know commenting like this happened this happened first of all. Thank you for letting me know, but also yes, I recorded the episode before that information was released.

So here's where we're going. So basically reports say that Kendra's charges allegedly stemmed from having locks on the outside of her kids bedroom doors. That when the investigators came to check their home after Joseph was arrested, that's when they noticed these locks. And I'm just going to say this. It's going to be a controversial take, but I'm going to say it anyway. I think it's one thing to have a lock on the outside of the door to lock your child in and to reprimand them. But I do know a lot of people when they have had toddlers or babies where they put that little safety lock on the outside of the door knob outside.

So that if the toddler learns how to crawl out of their crib and you know open the door so they don't fall down the stairs in the middle of the night. It's not meant to keep them in trapped in there. It's just meant as like the safety measures so they can't get out and hurt themselves when they are that young.

“Her children are obviously older and I don't think that that's why they had locks.”

But I just want to you know throw all of the information out there and play doubles advocate for a quick side. And I don't even play doubles advocate. That's the wrong term. But just throw out more possibilities. Although I don't think that's why of why there could have been an outside door lock. So anyway, right out of the gate, this was already extremely messy because there were two different cases, two different states and tons of speculation. However, what's now come out over the past few days is where things start to take a turn.

The biggest development being a recorded jail call between Joseph and Kendra. So audio surface of this recorded call on March 20th, which was two days after Joseph was arrested and just a few hours after Kendra had been arrested and then bailed out of jail. And there's one moment in this call that really stands out. Kendra tells him that she hired an attorney. But then immediately says, "It's not for you. It's only for me."

And at first you hear that and think, "Okay, that's a clear separation."

That's her saying, "You know, I'm handling my situation on my own. Also sometimes attorneys don't want to represent spouses. It's advice that you get your own attorney." But when you find out who she hired, that's where things get a little bit more complicated. Because according to reports Kendra hired an attorney by the name of Travis Story. And the reason that that name is particularly raising eyebrows is because of his track record in cases involving the Dougher family,

And if the name sounds familiar to you, it's because he previously represented Josh Dougher, the brother,

and his federal child exploitation case, which don't even make me get started on that guy again. I feel like I won off the rails last week, but he's like the dirtiest of dirt. Now, as you probably know, not only did that trial fall absolutely flat on its face, but the defense faced insane criticism and backlash. I mean, obviously this guy was disgusting. I even told you last week he had one of the worst possible files of CSAM material that exist on his device,

which just shows you what kind of sick twisted shit he was into.

So now this creep, who represented him and I get it, everybody's entitled to defense. Defense attorneys have to make a living some way, but now she's enlisting him to be her attorney. So fast forward to this situation. You have Kendra, who is also facing charges involving minors, choosing an attorney who is already closely associated with defending another dirty Dougher in a high profile case involving children.

“So that's why people are really starting to side eye this right now.”

And it also shows that whatever strategy she's building, she's doing it with someone who's passed involvement in cases like this already has been very widely talked about. Then in that same phone call, Kendra tells him that she's staying somewhere private with the kids, but she doesn't tell him where. Which it sounds to me like they're avoiding saying too much because obviously the calls are recorded and they don't want that information getting out. But at the same time she still is facing charges of four counts of endangering the welfare of a minor and four counts of false imprisonment.

And I have to say to going back to what I said before with like the locks on the door and I forget what company it's like 3M. It's very mainstream. It's not like you go and get a padlock at home, deepo. It's these like, I don't even know how you got like a swivel thing that goes across the door knob and or goes on the circular door knob and baby company sell them. Like it's it's not it's controversial yes, but it's something that is mainstream. However, if she is being charged with four counts of endangering the welfare of a minor and four counts of false imprisonment, I can't imagine in what world.

We we talk about all the time how people won't file charges or prosecute unless they are confident that they will win and that they have enough evidence. I don't know in what world if say a cop walked into my house right now and I had that lock on Emmys door and Emmys was not in the room. Where they would have false imprisonment charges or endangering the welfare of a child, which leads me to believe and this is just my speculation entirely. But for them to move forward with charges, it's my belief that when they enter the house, the children were in fact locked in those rooms.

And maybe at the time of this recording that information isn't out there and maybe once you hear this, you're like a duh Annie that was already released.

“But as of right now, it has not been released, but that's what makes me think that they filed these charges.”

Not that she was one of the few who puts the thing on the door for their safety, but that they were being held in those bedrooms. And I could totally be wrong, but I don't know, reading between lines, that's where I think this might be going. So while now she's in a private location with the kids, the bigger context is that the authorities have already accused her of these horrible actions involving these same children. Now, as of Tuesday of this week, online records show that Joseph Dugger was booked into the Bay County jail on March 31. He also appeared in court later that morning. And in court, Joseph, disgusting ass Dugger, played a not guilty to one charge of loot and lascivious conduct and one charge of loot and lascivious molestation of a victim less than 12 years old. This is according to court documents.

His bond was set at $600,000 on both charges and a court date was set for April 20th, 2026. He was also ordered not to have any contact with the victim and not to have any unsupervised contact with any minors, which, hello, I think that should be the glaring light above him like, yeah, you are not allowed to be around any minors because even though he's not convicted yet.

First of all, it's like your kind of guilty by association based on what your brother did, but even if we're not going that way and we're like innocent and told proven guilty.

When there's children involved, err on the side of caution, err on the side of caution. So the fact that he was ordered not to have any contact with the victim and not to have any unsupervised contact with any minors, I say, amen.

“Here we are again, the dugers, the gift that will not stop giving. What do they say? Like, what is the thing like?”

No, I'm like, I saw where you're going to stop, please. What's the thing? Like, not the gift that won't stop giving or it's the gift that keeps on giving. But what's the one where it's like, so herpes one. I don't know herpes saying, no, where it's like, you can't get rid of it. Something like that.

Would you rather if you could expunge Brian Cobrager from your vocabulary or the dirty duger, which would you rather get rid of and never have to speak of again?

Cobrager only because he wants the attention and the notoriety. So I think when people speak about him, he gets off on it. I remember actually early on him in his YouTube history, he not me, but maybe, but he used to watch case coverage. So I think that him starving him of that attention. But if I could like get both of them out of prison and who would you rather have faced a firing squad, time atch, I don't even know, I don't even know. So now we have, like I said, another duger, a dirty duger, another case involving a child, another situation where, if you're like me, you're left asking how this keeps happening with the same freaking family.

And I mentioned that also last week, I think that they are in a cult. And you know what? A lot of people actually commented to for me to watch shiny happy people. I don't watch that.

Have you? No. But they said it follows the, because I can't think of the top of my head. It's like the ILBP or something that they follow the value system, which it is like a freaking cult.

“And so people like watch shiny happy people, it covers that, it covers that. And I was like, yeah, they obviously dressed like they're in a cult with the hair and the dresses. So that's why it keeps happening in the same family, right?”

Anyway. So last week, we were trying to understand what was happening. Now it seems like we're starting to see it all unfold. And something tells me that we are in nowhere near the end of this story.

And I also had asked at the end of last week, please let me know if you want the deep dive. Please say no. Many of you said yes. But I will say, you know what? To my pleasant surprise, a lot of you said, we don't need the deep diving any like you're good. We got you. But a lot of you said yes. So I'm going to ask one more time. Do you really want it? Do you want the deep dive?

“Well, I was wondering, I thought was sinking two things. Like the Jody Hildebrandt, like just a stream parenting with the discipline, or when you were saying like what would have led to like evidence wise to them hot coming up with those charges.”

And I was thinking not only could maybe the children have been present, but maybe there was a lot of evidence of them trying to escape or get out. And that's just heartbreaking to even think about. But, or even if they're minors, I mean, who knows, maybe when they were questioned, they said, yeah, we'd be locked in there for hours as punishment or something like that. So I hate this family. I hate this fucking family. And it's so sad because, I mean, obviously there's no parent in the world that wants their kids around that family.

“So it's like those poor children are then like ostracized. It's awful. I know. It's it's really sad. Well, moving into the next case. No, I know. So many people have been asking what the hell is going on with this case.”

Well, that's because the headline is crazy and it almost makes you feel like it's impossible. So rationalize with us, break it down for us. What is going on? Amy. So here's the headline, a quadruple amputee now charged with murder. And this is quickly becoming a case that's raising a lot of questions about what exactly happened because nobody sure how this all unfolded. So we're going to get into it. This one is about Dayton James Weber, a 27 year old from Maryland and up until now, a lot of people knew him for something completely different.

He had become pretty well known in the cornhole world, which for those of you that aren't familiar, it's usually this casual backyard game where opponents stand on opposite sides of the backyard or of of a space where there's two raised boards and they toss bean bags back and forth and the point of the game is to try to get the bean bag in the hole and there's a whole scoring system. But nevertheless, it's become a sport. People can actually go pro and it's a big deal to a lot of people down. And so Dayton was competing at a high school level being featured in the media is someone who had really overcome extreme circumstances.

Because when he was a baby, he had contracted a severe bacterial infection that led him to losing all four of his limbs. So growing up and even into adulthood, his story was often framed as inspirational. Someone who adapted, pushed through, and built a name for himself despite all of these challenges in his way. But now he's facing first degree murder charges in the death of his friend, 27 year old Braderick Michael Wells and what investigators say happened here is honestly a lot.

And that's when everything escalated. Investigators say that during that argument Dayton pulled out a gun and shot Braderick multiple times including at least one shot to the head and all of this allegedly happened while they were still inside the vehicle.

“I'm sorry, what? Like, because obviously even just hearing this, you immediately start wondering how this all physically played out. And that's one of the biggest points of discussion in this story.”

First of all, I'm sure it's all possible. But how is Dayton driving without any arms or legs and then while driving, how did he then pull out that gun? Even pulling out that gun while driving, how was he able to hold it stable enough to able to shoot someone multiple times. But according to authorities after the shooting, Dayton pulled the car over and that's where things get even more disturbing. Police say he asked the two people in the back seat to help him move Braderick's body, which they told him absolutely not got out of the car ran and eventually called the police and told them what had just happened.

And not long after that, Braderick's body was found in a yard in Maryland. So I think, honestly, that's the part where that leaves a lot of questions too because if Dayton needed help getting that body out of the car and had asked those two people in the back seat. How did he then pull over to the side of the road get out and leave the body in a yard all by himself? Because at this point now you have a shooting inside of a vehicle witnesses fleeing and a body being dumped. But the one problem was that Dayton was gone.

Investigators say he was later found in Virginia at a hospital more than a hundred miles away from where this all happened. And as of right now, he's facing multiple charges, including first degree murder, second degree murder, assault and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. He has since agreed to be extradited back to Maryland where this case is going to move forward in court. Now one of the biggest things people can't stop talking about in this case is the logistics of it all because again, Dayton is a quadruple amputee.

An authorities have said that despite that, he was still able to handle and fire a weapon. And what's interesting is that he actually posted videos showing himself shooting firearms, so which we're going to play those videos for you for those of you watching the video version.

“So this isn't something investigators are suggesting was impossible for him to do. It's clearly something he was capable of, but still it's one of those details that just has made a lot of people kind of stop and think how how did this happen?”

And then there's also the question of motive, because right now there isn't a clear confirmed explanation why this happened.

Police have said it started with an argument inside the car, but what that argument was about how it escalated to that level and what the relationship dynamic was between Dayton and Braderick, that still hasn't been fully laid out yet.

“There's been at least one person from Dayton's past, however, a past ex girlfriend who has come forward claiming that he had a controlling or volatile side.”

So we're still very much in the stage of having a lot of questions wondering what actually really happened. And honestly, one of the biggest themes in the case so far is that major contrast. On the one hand, you have this public image, someone who people saw as resilient, inspirational, overcoming something that most of us could never even imagine.

And then on the other hand, now you see these very serious allegations of violence and murder.

So this is definitely one. We'll be keeping a close eye on as well and bringing you any updates because I have a feeling there's going to be a lot more to come on this one. It is wild. I understand everybody's confusion to have like, how could something like this physically happen? And I know that quadriplegics and anybody who's an amputee has like those mechanics and their car and things that help them, you know, shift and drive and pedal. But when you think of everything combined with one another, him driving the vehicle, being able to load a gun, fire, aim, all of those things. Yeah, it is, especially when you have two people in the back seat who clearly weren't complicit, they got out of the car, they weren't going to help them.

I wonder what the history is with his temper. Yeah, I'm sure we'll find out. Oh, what a sad case. Okay guys, so that is it for headline highlights today, but quick little announcement.

Merch is coming back. I've seen a lot of you guys asking wins emerge coming wins emerge coming because it's been gosh, I don't know seven or eight months now. It is coming back. All I can say, I'm not going to give you the exact date, but you're going to be wanting to check the website over the next week.

“And for all of you Patreon viewers and listeners, you will have early access before it goes live to the public so that you can scoop up things before they sell out.”

So if you've been on the fence about joining Patreon, now is the time to do it because you not only will get early access to the spring merch, but you also get more behind the scenes, you get bonus episodes, you get giveaways, you get our group chat that we're talking in every single day about all these cases. And so you can do that at patreon.com/AnnieElease and you'll get a discount for merch and you will get a discount for merch. You are correct and are we giving away any merch this we are. We are. So you might get free merch on top of that.

That's where we're at.

All right, so I hope you are all having a great start to April. It's a new month. It's a new dawn. It's a new day.

I knew a song was about to break out. We got to leave on a high now. I mean, this was a great literally. Yeah, so we got to.

“All right, I don't even know what's good time. I don't know. I got to pack a pack of alcohol.”

That's not how it goes. Okay, let the rain come down and wake my dreams as a house. Let it wash away my sanity because I want to hear the thunder. I want a screen screen. Let the rain fall down. I'm coming clean. I'm coming clean. Okay, love you guys. Be nice. Don't kill people. Don't join any cults and I'll be back soon on Monday.

Bye. Hey, that's a music for your ears.

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