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Keep talking to the hand— it’s our friend Ike Barinholtz. Hustling, trivia, college, bottle-service, true mirrors, and a Southwest flight home. “Hey guys, where did you go?” It’s an all-new SmartLess....

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- Hello, this is Captain JB, up here in Skycopter 4. And there's a little bit of a congestion over there. - JB, you lost your license. - Yeah. - Bring me a chopper back.

You lost your, you're not supposed to, what's gonna switch to other programming here? Welcome to Smart Lens. - Smart. (upbeat music)

(upbeat music) - Doesn't Jason kind of look like he just woke up, and he just woke up. He just woke up, he's gonna have a bullet cereal and watch cartoons.

- I've had cereal, I've had my granola, my sugar-free gluten-free granola, with my unsweetened almond milk. - I want to just blow my brains out. - That sounds like she's just half way describing it.

- It's terrible.

- You're finally getting it, you're finally getting it.

- Which is your suffering. - You're a mate, fuck you. - I look like you're in. - It's not worth it, right? Well, didn't you say I was gonna,

I was gonna die without a whole lot of water retention, but it'll all be young.

- And remember, in the whole idea is that I was gonna be

your bedside eating a Sunday with 30 years to go. - All right, and me and my wooden teeth, it'll be sitting in a casket. (laughing) - Um, I, - Maybe you got like a really,

like you got like a sort of sexy like post-sex look, did you just say I'm saying? - Right? - Do all does the hand count? - Oh, no.

- No, I don't do that. - Talk to the hand, keep talking to the hand, keep talking to the hand. (laughing)

- I just, I'm just, I was telling Sean,

I just did some reading, that's all. This is just me in reading, reading, this is reading for the, for the movie you're doing, yeah? - For maybe what might follow, you know? We, you know, we're hustlers, you know?

- We are hustlers. - We're constantly getting hired and fired, and you gotta try to build a bridge to the next check. - That's right. - Always.

- Yup. - I know. - How do we just stop, how about we just stop? - I know. - Let's just stop.

- No, because you know what, I hear from you if we stopped. - Let's just chat. We'll just chat once a week, you know? And we don't, we don't have to do any reading, and we don't have to do any, you know?

- Yeah, it's something crazy hours, and being away from our families. - Oh, my God, you're, where's the kind of word way? - I'm here and lonely in New York. - I know, I'm here, I'm here.

- Wait, do you there soon, JB and for the first couple weeks,

I'm gonna be across the street for you until I move in to my place. - Yeah? - I'm gonna be right there, so I'm gonna come in, I'll come and spoon you a night. - I'm there in June, late June.

- Yeah, we're good. - We're gonna be gone. - So, yeah, JB, but I'm gonna, - I knew that was coming.

- That's what's that's what's generous about.

Us three weeks, take turns, it's setting each other up to the right. - We're going to hurt our own feelings. - Now, JB, do you like being isolated like that by yourself there and all that stuff?

- I do, you know, I was thinking the other day that I have lived in a number of these temporary situations because of work and various places around. - Yeah. - And I was actually was thinking,

well, I'm kind of surprised that I've made a friend of that and I'm kind of comfortable with that, 'cause you know, you know me, I am so, I'm so locked and committed, comfortable in my cave at home. Like, I don't, I don't leave.

- But you create a cave, you create a cave everywhere you go. - It's true. - Like, good about, like, immediately, just like when you get into rental. - I remember in Atlanta when I was living

that building underneath the knee to you had your cave there with your couch and your thing, right? - Yeah. - The couch has got to be in a situation where I can be laying down and looking,

yes, so that I'm looking across my body, over my feet, right to the TV. - The couch's at that. - Yeah, perpendicular to the television. - Yeah.

- And then if I got down, I'm comfy.

- Remember on tour, every hotel, immediately couch

right in the corner, and then the TV will be right in the corner. - And you come up to Long Island, you get to my house, everybody's outside in JB's on the couch. - I know, but that'd be your. - But then, unfortunately, that's usually the hosts spot.

That's your spot. - No, no, because remember I had those two, you do the corner. - I had those two, yeah. - Yeah, you do the other, why do you do that?

- Well, but everything, yeah, and every single time you come over here, Jay, you got your spot on the couch exactly how you just described. - Yeah, and I feel bad that this must be, this is the prime spot.

Sean, I'm sorry, I mean, your spot will, I'm sorry, I mean, your spot, and you're not done. - You don't care. You got that's yours, but I do the same like last summer, somebody came in and we were watching the soccer in

Bradley and I were in that same configuration and we were both asleep and my brother came in and we were both on the couch

What's your brother's name quick?

Okay good good good. Wait a jay but jay's not. Juck her in quick shout out to Chuck her in a jay. I just need to know that you don't get so after a while of being isolated don't you miss people and and the opposite of that? I would if if if in those situations when I'm isolated by myself in a foreign city, I'm not spending 12 hours during the day with hundreds of right right right and my new family and I need to write so it's it's again that black white situation. There's no we are we now able to are we allowed to talk about your new family because I didn't know if the public knew about this or

This is exciting news that we're going to do it

We just you carb love him C.M. Z. This was three children. Yeah, it's amazing

I'll tell you what's amazing Our surprise guest he pull up a chair one of the greats when it comes to comedy. Uh-huh. He got his start on Matt TV Yeah, he's been in over a hundred episodes He's been in so many things that we love these days He's in a show that he created with Mindy Kaling that's coming back for season two called running point

But he's also lately been known as one of the breakout amazing hilarious stars of Apple TV's the studio guys It's our our friend. It's I period Oh First kind of shut up shut up shut our net real quick. Is that a jack horse. Chuckie My God. Oh, I

This is great. This is this now. This is a guest. Well. Yeah, I know. Oh, is this a guest is one of the guys I'm so glad you hear I you're one I was thinking about this morning

I was I'm showing myself a coffee this morning and I said to myself I said great fill us in. What did you?

You know, turn it to me. No, Stivia. Well, if I'm being real true via and then some Ripple half and a half Because it's real good. He's so good. He will be very He did You talk about cheap liquor. Yeah, so at it's pee based I You and I met you and you and I met I don't know it is pee based it's made in Canada by the way

Don't you know a what is that right? Hey, hey, but I got some piece here. Should we make the map and I Letter Ripple Giver I can give her a bud. Who's there? Where are you so I just want to say before we find out where you are I we've known each other for about 20 years

I was thinking and I was thinking I guess one of those guys you're always happy to see

A person come on on the screen doing stuff. It's a rare note. You're one of the rare ones Is there something darker there that you've kept his Yeah First time my dad beat the hell out of me. Yep. Oh, wow Hey guys, I said first I'm a huge fan of this show

I'm a massive fan. I've listened to I think every episode right of a really this is what this is my plan is to really

What's your favorite what's your least favorite now of the three Live we can't name you can't name him last time I saw I can person I surprised him when I'm morning He would stay in Amy's apartment in New York and I was coming to pick up a jacket or something Can we stop there? Yeah. Yeah. No, and there's not breaking news. There's not breaking news They're not to Amy and I could not together anymore

She let me hear a apartment law. I was doing a Broadway show. He was doing a Broadway show This thing ever. Yeah, my God, so So I was doing I was doing this play or in Broadway Yes, and you were kind of right in the middle were you just starting it forget we were we were right in the middle when I saw what what what what was it? Yeah, I was Chicago. I was playing Roxy Hart

I got blasted by the critics and rightfully so quickly They didn't like it. They didn't like my take on it because I played it just as like a bro. Yeah, you followed Cheetah Rivera Yeah, they didn't catch you. You didn't try to do anything feminine at all with it You just now told me to rotate. Yeah, no, like yeah, I reached for the gun Now I give you done a bunch of theater was that just the one the one pop there

I started with you know improv in Chicago back in the day, but that was my first time doing the great white way

Yes, I say that Did people come back stage and visit you after the show? Oh, no, we're not sure that was shot

We're creating a consensus here. Did people come and say about how do you have to the show?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did you enjoy that. I did. Yeah, I think your friends come back stage But then you do the stage door The stage door, which is crazy. You call it that's called act three Act three you go out and you you're you're smooth and you sign autographs and take selfies and that really touched me I thought and you give it to other people because you do it for them because it's not all about you, right?

I go ahead It's not all about we're pulled Sean why wouldn't we call that act four outside are we talking about a typical

Yeah, these things aren't two acts.

There's two acts. I got to get you the internet. What is this because of the the what you may call the halftime there

Is there a show during halftime? Hang on. I'm going to do everybody fit Jason about to do your favorite today's guests

It's Ike Baron holes Quick at it point No, you like started you like people coming back because this Jason's right that we are trying to figure out This is a long-term study that we're doing over here at smartness. I hear that you are support if you are somewhat famous Oh my god, here we go are somewhat obligated to go backstage afterwards regardless of whether you know anyone in the cast

You know, you know Say hi to them and tell them what you thought about the show and I've just I've just thought that that it would be presumptuous and also would delay those actors getting home and resting I thought I It really depends on the Celebrity like for instance Jason if you were there and you came backstage

It would be so exciting. We would take pictures Everyone would be excited, but if like I don't know a careful rob Schneider show to I don't just use a name I'm throwing out their shots fired, but like you know in a meal or someone who was like Oh, we got to stay behind for a person x y or z right. Yeah, yeah, so so that it can it can be but it goes both ways How fun would it be? I give you a backstage and also Jason came back and he just actually said it on the name just said

Hey, I'm famous Where should we sit because I've got notes? You want to just go back into your dressing room is it a lot just famous guy to famous guy, you know I know what you were going for, but let me tell you what's reading Well, you can go ahead and take the wink out of it. That would be the thought

Now, I was sitting about mid house and it wasn't feeling They're in the third act. You're mid house. Hey, my name is Jason. I hate famous Jason

Wait the fact that you have at the ready I know what you were going for, but here's what's reading

Like you that's you have that in your head ready to go. I'm getting ready to direct over here He's in prep. I saw I saw a video of JB in in their buddy Sam Rockwell at the next game It was footage of MSG. They're walking and Jason's talked to him. It looked like he was giving him notes on the way to their seat We haven't started shooting yet. Yeah, sure. And if I'm Rockwell, I'm like, "Hey, man, I just came to watch the fucking guest here I know what you're planning on doing. Let me tell you how that's probably gonna be

And saying he's so nice. He probably just took it, but God what exhausting Shout out. It's good. Before we're done. You're shout out to the nice folks over there at MSG for accommodating They're the man there for Rosanna. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, and the group over there It's just and those nicks. They brought it home that night. They're classy

I don't know when this is hearing, but it's they're looking good. They look pretty good. That's what Sean's been

Sean's been saying this all season. Yeah, so just on a loop a fucking loop of that. Are you guys talking about next? Yeah, oh here we go. I spell it. I spell it Sean spell it with K and and what's it short for? Nicaragua, Nicarbalkers is Nicaragua. Oh, is it really Nicarbucker? Yeah, it is. Yeah. Higher. Higher. Hey, no, it's a really Nicarbucker. I'm just a dash more gay. Okay. I'm still rolling. Okay. Oh my god. Wait, what? Well, welcome to the show. It's like barren holds another cut point. Wow.

Hey, now listen, I was going to have a different intro for Sean, but I was going to open with because Sean, because I because I like your from Chicago and I'm just in the question is I'm from Glenn Allen. I have been a Glenn Allen. I've been to Glenn Allen. I've been to all the glens.

A lot of glens. Oh, here we go. Glenn. We never go to have you ever been to hotels. I've been to

hotels many times in my friend. Chocolate cake shake that you have. By the way, the way, the shake where they dump a big slice of cake. Jason said in Ozark, chocolate cake shake from hotels and he does. Oh my god. Catherine, home, by the way, is watching Ozark now the best. Oh my god,

she just sent me a text yesterday. As a matter of fact, it must that's where you must be working with her.

Yeah. So, yeah, she sent me a text. She said, hey, I'm really embarrassingly late on this, but you're great in Ozark or something like that. I was like Catherine, the greatest love of my life. And I said, I was just so excited. She's seeing it for the first time. I was just like, oh yeah, I was so tempted to say, what's your favorite part? Yeah, she would come to that and she's like,

Ozark is amazing.

she must have, she must have tapped everything else out. All her subscriptions had had

mashed out. And she found an old iPad that belonged to a neighbor and was loaded. Han told me a story. She had Laura Dern's phone number and she would text Laura Dern sometimes and had like a little bit of a texting relationship with her. And then when David Lynch passed away, Han reached out and was like, I'm so sorry about your collaborator. I know how much he met to you. And the person said, I don't think this is who you think it is. And it was, um, the worst.

Tina Fey's standin from this is where I leave you. And this years of text 10 years ago. She thought it was Laura Dern. Just staying in loose casual

contact with over the years. I got it. Wait a minute. Where are you? Are you in New York right now?

I'm in London night. How are you? How are you? I'm in London. Look, the bottle lid doesn't come off. I know how annoying was that. On all the plastic bottles, they don't come off. They just hang the truth. That's not a bad design. It's kind of smart actually. But it's hard to screw it back on. And then you do sometimes like, oh, yeah. You got your mic jacked on your rolling luggage. Yeah, that is no video. That on your luggage is the mic. Rob is like, you got some books,

right? I was like, now this hotel room doesn't have any books, so I haven't had my roller back. I love you. Say, wait, wait, it's no video, right? It's no video. It is a great composition there with your little frame, that's one little wheel, bottom left. Are you shooting, are you shooting the studio over there right now? Is that what we are? We are actually here for, we're here for the Baptist mate. Oh, we've got nominated for a bloody bath.

Oh, that's great. Congratulations. It's very cool. It's weird though. It's that we're best foreign show. So all the other shows are nominated. Some of them I've heard of, but a lot of them are like BBC one shows that are like, are you quite through now? So, you know what I mean? We're here with your shows that you don't know, in the States. Well, that's fun. Congrats on the thing. So, so, dude, you've done so much stuff. We mentioned, so let's talk, you did start in Chicago, we're talking about, did you

go up in Chicago? Yes, I grew up in uptown, exactly one mile away from Ridleyfield. Oh, wow, in the city right now. Hard of the city right there. Yeah, in the city. That's some bullshit 80 miles away, you know, from with nothing but Chicago, but fucking tire tread marks all over the road.

No, I used to, well Ridley, Ridley is, is Boystown, I used to, and I basically honestly kind of

grow up in Boystown. Yeah, all the games everywhere. We would go to the gay parade. It's super gay around Ridleyfield. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll be right back. And now, back to the show. So, you grew up in the city, and I know that you're, so you're, you're sort of, second city, and all that. Yeah, it was improv. You kind of, you started an improv on stage. Big improv guy. I saw, yeah, I, college didn't really work, and then I went to the improv

Olympics, like 10 year anniversary show, and I saw Amy Poler, I saw Adam McKay, Tim Meadows, in particular, was so, so funny that I was like, I'm going to sign up for improv classes, and I really

just immerse myself in that whole. That's amazing. The trifecta, the trifecta. Where there are people

who were kind of in your year back then, who you still are, work with or tight with, like who else?

Oh, yeah. Let me, Jack McBrayers, a very dear friend. No, we don't consider him. You don't

can lead all the Jack McBrayers. No, we jack is an persona like Rada. Yeah, he's not, he's not that great. Um, but like Seth Meyers was kind of my generation sedakess, was around there, John, lots like that crew was around there, lots, one of the all time. One of the all time great. Love, love, love, love. I mean, what, what, between second city, uh, uh, UCB and ground things. I mean, if there was like, uh, a little Olympics going, how do you think those, those three

would, would, well, there's so much, there's so much crossover. Right. Yeah, there's a lot of crossover now. I mean, groundlings is more like, UCB doesn't go back that far, right? Ground, what, what, which is the oldest? Yeah, like in like 90, five or so, Amy and, and the, the guys kind of left shut up. And Matt and Matt and Ian. Right. So Dell close, he knows this, Dell close was with the guy

and Prof. Olympic and they'll study with him. He was your dream. Was, was groundlings or, or second

city, the oldest. The second city is the oldest. Second city was like, 1962, like head asner was in the original. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was that, that goes way back. Groundlings,

I think, is more like mid 70s, uh, hippies.

you, did you go to Amsterdam? Sorry, Sean, we're recording something. So wait, one second. Look at this is, uh, Favro. This is that, uh, second city, Favro. Nice. That's me right there. That's Jack McBray, right next to me. Wait, were you at a touring company? No, that was, we just went back for like, and, and Raymas, Harold Raymas right there. Oh. And then we just went back for like a anniversary. But the fact that you said Jack McBray or second city, that's crazy. All those

people that came out there, including yourself from that whole troop and all those things in Chicago,

it's just, it doesn't happen anymore. It feels like, the mid 90s improv scene was, was, why?

It was really fun. I would work at second city as like a bus boy. And I would see, like a Latino when she first started, like Scott Addsett, Brian Stack, a lot of, you know,

kinds of guys, Jerry Miner, just amazing killer. Stack, one of the all-time grades. One of the,

yeah, one of the all-time. You know, Willie, at any time anybody brings up these, these, these folks, you, you know them all, um, but, uh, did you ever do any time at one of these, um, improv groups? No, I was too dumb. Like I was living in New York and there wasn't that same thing and I wish I had, I didn't know about it. Yeah, but you were going to a lot of them and you were hanging out with them a lot. This is even before Amy, right? It's probably how you met Amy. So when Amy, Amy first came to New York with

with Matt and Matt and Ian as UCB, they did the, they did Bucket of Truth and when they did the West Bank downstairs and my then, one of my then agents, a man by the name of Peter Pritzapoto. Uh, my current manager. His current, my current manager said to me, you've got to go and see this group that I represent, these were, I'm doing this thing called Bucket of Truth. So I went there and that was 1996. They just moved in January of '96. I know all this. They moved in January of '96

to New York. I went saw Bucket of Truth with my, uh, buddy, our buddy, Duff, in my then girlfriend,

Miss EA. I know Duff. Yeah. But anyway, I remember seeing those guys be like, holy shit. Like,

and this is what was going on in Chicago. What all you guys were, we're doing, uh, wasn't in New York and they brought it to New York. UCB, Amy in those guys. But it didn't exist. I wish I had done it. I was too dumb. And then I got to know everybody, obviously, because I was around all those. Well, do you remember in like 2000, maybe two or three together, we did a reading of Jerry Lewis's The Day of the Clown Cry. Yes. You mean Cross. Yeah.

Blaze, John Glazer. John Glazer, uh, kind of Rob, and for my sister, my sister, the Day of the Clown Cry is about a clown that visits the kids in the Holocaust. Yes. And it's a movie that famously

was never released, right? Yeah. It was Jerry Lewis plays a Jewish clown who entertains the children.

Is there about to be murdered? And for some reason, they never released it. Yeah. But was it, was it Jerry Lewis that killed it? Did he like try to bury it or was it was at the finance here? No, he.

I think Jerry Lewis himself was like, no, no, no, we can't. We can't show anyone this.

But the rumor is, the rumor is that Harry Sheer has a copy of it. Like, there are some clips on YouTube. There's some clips on YouTube. You could type it in. See like, like, little small moments. Oh, really? The whole thing isn't out there yet. Whoa. Yeah, we did that. I forgot about it. And there was a crate that was so much fun and everybody, uh, and that, not just everybody on the stage, but everybody even the audience. It was so much people of that era. Uh, it was the

first time I felt cool on stage or comedy. Like, there was cool people around and I felt very cool for the first time. Now, let's go back. I heard, I heard you say something like college did not work out for you or something like that. Wait, it was a bit of a breeze over there. Let's couple back to that. And let's talk about, um, so from day one loves pain, right? He loves hitting pain points. So you show up. You got your suitcases and go from there. I, I, I want, I went into

Boston University hoping I would be a politician. And really? Really? Yeah. Yeah. Are you still interested in politics? Um, I, I'm disgusted by it. Right. Yeah. But I, I do. Yes. That's a you. I'm perverted. I know a lot about it. I, we don't have to talk about politics, but I'm just just curious. Um, so you, yeah. But I studied poly sigh at Boston use. You're not a dummy.

I was going to. And then right away, I went crazy where I was like, oh my god, if I'd never

smoke potter done mushrooms before, that started happening quite a bit. Oh, you started to have some bad news. And then I was just, the freedom of not having to do anything, took me over. And I kind of went crazy for a couple weeks, um, and watch movies over and over again. Yeah. And like I watched 2001 like seven or eight times. And yeah. And so good. I kind of halfway through the semester was like, this isn't. I'm not. I need more structure. Right. Yeah. And I just

wasn't enjoying that. And so I, I, I, I couldn't handle the freedom. I couldn't handle the freedom. I felt bad for my parents. So I told them everything was status quo and it was going great. And, um, when I came home and finished the year, my dad is a, as a reward, took me to Las Vegas

LA on a vacation, because I finished my first year of college.

airport, my mom called him was like, I just got a letter from BU. They're kicking him out. And, that was problematic, and still on, right? Trips. So the trip was literally, we were done and flying back home. And like, we sat on a southwest flight in my dad for like three hours. It was like, how could you do this, Charles? And I was like, I'm really sorry. So they are now they're very happy and they're everything. Of course it should be. So, but so then so then you stay in Chicago and you

just start some odd jobs and go into the comedy clubs. And at what point did you go all in on,

having a conversation with your parents about, I'm going to pursue entertainment?

They knew that I was really enjoying improv and everything. And at that time, your kind of goal

is to be on the second city main stage and then eventually, SNL. That's the ultimate trajectory.

And after a few years, I auditioned for this theater group in Amsterdam called Boom Chicago, you know, a lot of our friends have gone through. And that is where you are, your job is acting. You don't have to have another day job, you just have to do shows at night. And I got hired by them and my parents, I told them, hey, this is it. I'm leaving. I'm doing this now, I'm an actor. And they have been, they're like the most supportive parent. My dad became an actor. Like, you know what I mean?

It's like, it's crazy. They are, they are very, very cool. And I'm now remembering the reason I brought him, I think the first time we met was like 2001 or maybe two, and you, and Josh, my her sister, brother, he came back from Amsterdam and came to Amin, our old old apartment.

Yes, do you remember that? Yeah, do you ever old was there? Yes, it was right after she got hired

by SNL. Yes, yeah, it was that first season because Seth got hired at the same time. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. It's crazy. Crazy. No, you a long time. Well, I was 25 years ago, dude. Yeah, it's nuts. Wow. Okay, it's crazy. All right. So you, so you tips, then they go, okay, great. You're going to do it. You're going to, you're going to be in their supportive. Very supportive. And, and Joe brothers and sisters, younger brother, and then he decided he wanted to be an actor too, and I was like, dude, don't do it. But he now, he works. He was on Superstore

for years and didn't create shows and stuff. So we're like, we're showbiz family now. We're like, we're like, we're like, we're like the arcets. So mom is the only one without a sad card at this point. Mom is the only one we're trying to tap to heartly her and come on to like be on something. Yeah. But she she she she she she'll be tough, but we'll get her there. We'll get

you. So, but how did you get dialed into that whole crew of all the comedy? How did you get it?

What what was your first foray into that world? Well, well, well, it came moved to LA with Seth Myers and Josh Myers and my buddy Dave and and for like a year and a half was like a bus boy and just trying to break into stuff. But it was mad TV was my first gig right? I heard with Josh Myers and we I did five years on mad TV. Wow. Which I watched a lot of those. I used to love you and Josh on that truly. It was it was you know, it was one of those shows. I love doing it until I

didn't. It was tough at the time because SNL, I think that's the best SNL cast ever that like 2002 to 2008 is you know what I mean that that was just like polar and

will and wig and and and Fred and it was just wild and we would always get compared to them

and it was just tough because sometimes you wanted mad to be a little bit better. You wanted it to kind of not have kind of like guests and stuff but it was it was a great job. Didn't you guys have like a half hour jump start before did you guys come on at 11? We did. We came on at 11 so we had a little bit of a head start and it was I was that it was very fun. My first TV show I'm still friends with those guys like Jordan was on there Jordan Peel is like one of my best friends and

yeah it was very fun but towards the end I was getting restless and I was like I need to be on a different show I want to be on a sitcom and then I left mad TV and like literally did not work for like three and that's which was that is the curse of a series right? Yeah. Start to be on like all the things you're not being able to do and then you leave and it's like oh there's a lot of crickets out of it. Who was the guy who famously did that? What was the guy he was on that show? He was a bit of my

people who gave a carousel baby. The carousel. Yeah. Yeah. Well in fairness to him there's a there's a long list of folks that think he had enough having a very long career in the end of the show after that too he was awesome. Yeah he did do so. But then you did and correct me if I'm wrong so then after that you do that and you have a you do a couple things here and there but it was then the Mindy project right was yeah that was the next but he basically I did get Danny McBride did cast me on he's spawning down

at a time. I just was not working and that was like a big deal for me. Yes that show. That show that that group what they're the best. They are the best I just saw him. I love and they're so cool they're so original and that was the first time I went onto a show that I was a die hard fan of.

Was it was it was it a little nerve-racking at the beginning then was it was ...

it was going to be as if just as a viewer. I was nervous enough just like I hope I'm as funny

as these guys but I also had to be a baseball player and to be like the best picture in the world

and you don't have a lot of baseball talent. I have a little bit of baseball. I'm like a solid five but it was that was a little bit of pressure. You don't look like you're throwing with your left hand. I don't look like no no no. I've seen like bad like Robert Redford's son in the natural like when he throws it it looks so bad. It looks so bad. I'm not that bad. But I do suck up in the natural the other day and Robert Redford you know when he strikes out that guy

and when the train pulls over. Joe Dom Baker yeah and it's and Redford had a pretty good

release. He was a good athlete. You could tell he was a good athlete. Yes. Who's not? It's pretty clear

what you want Joe. But yeah there was pressure but it was like so much fun and I love those guys and from there. Would you consider yourself the Redford of he's better down? Oh for sure. Yeah yeah yeah the Redford and the Newman quite fine. And the Newman of course yeah what are ready. Both of them. So you do he's better down with those guys but then the Mindy project you do for a few years you guys did like a lot of the seasons man. Yeah six seasons. Wow it's crazy now. We can plan about

10 episode shows and it's like we used to do 22 episodes. It was a year every year. Yeah yeah it was not. And through that process you and Mindy get closer because you've ended up collaborating

since then and you guys have written together you guys created running point I think I mentioned that.

Yeah and the old days. With Dave Stass and my writing partner and Beth's friend who is true show runner but the three of us we love him. I mean look we're not here to talk about Dave. Okay can we just talk about him for this? No I mean we're here to talk about you. Okay Chuck or Nat but we're not here to talk about Dave okay. I don't know Jason remembers this but in like 2019 I sat next to Jason at the end. He's my wife and I'm not reviewing your wife.

He doesn't know. Right I think they do. Right at the time. I'm gonna come back. The some horrible like abortion ban hit at Georgia. Yeah and and we're talking about it and and I was like yeah I actually do a lot of work with the ACLU and Jason goes have they filed a lawsuit yet and I go you know what I don't know he goes well you really have your talking points in order and there lucky to have you as an ambassador. Like locked and loaded ready to go

I didn't open that well. That is really we skip a few dates and I just get right to hurtful. Sorry I I must have been nervous at night. No it was very funny. You were too busy winning multiple Emmys at there. No I didn't. I was like when some some I mean I was like

a lot. Maybe that was what was that when I won for directing maybe. Yeah I think I was here we go.

If you sag awards he acts like this. No I'm sorry that's my huge. Oh you won for directing? No no guys is trim this part or just a way you think why are you saying trim it but you're shaking your head now. Wait my camera on. So but but I get wanted to get like so you what's awesome is is that you that you do all these shows this up and now you're kind of you've expanded and you're you're you're writing and creating shows with Dave you're writing part of her and and

you guys are and you're you've got a kind of a very robust career going in a lot of different ways and you're doing you're creating running point you're on that you're doing the studio with with Seth and Evan those guys which is awesome you're you're you're so good on that show. Real busty right now. Yeah you are so good on that show dude. It's really nice you guys it's really fun we're like we got about three weeks left to shooting season two and it's it's it's been long but

really fun and really yeah I love it to Venice for two weeks we shot for two weeks in Venice. I saw that yeah with Madonna in the show. Yeah. Yeah. I like the fret Norris of this. Yeah you fret by the way. Okay. I'm just doing old I would love to. What are you saying? I would love to. Shut up. Set up. You idiot don't touch me you idiot. I told you not to be stupid you moron. Wait so I like you. When you do you. Sorry Sean what were you yeah. Yeah Sean.

What were you saying Sean do you want to say something go for Sean.

Wait is that on your third button on your phone so it's always there. It's ready to go. It's so fun. I'm

having a lot of fun right now. I'm so jacked up at coffee. I hear I like the fun. I'm in a Europe of Montes wet. Yeah okay so Sean you had some idea. So I had a question about how do

You balance fam?

like in Venice and you're doing this you're like 18 shows at the same time and then you but you

have how many kids do you have? I have three daughters come on girl girl. And I'm not home as much as I

like but my wife's boyfriend is a great guy. And we it was kind of rocky at first between me and

him for obviously but now it's gone. He's like really good and he's really good with my kids and you're not so yeah we're just kind of letting that rise. He's still doing the MMA stuff as he's still in the middle of the day. Yeah. Well you guys know Andrew Tate. You've heard of him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's actually not as bad. Yeah. And how did your daughters get along with his four pit bulls? They're like good or? Now. Yes. Now they have the mouth starts. Sure.

It can't. Yeah the muscles. They can't fight now but but it was a little touching go from it. Oh my god. And we will be right back.

And back to the show. How old are the little angels? The little angels. Hello little angels.

They are eight, ten and soon to be 13. Wow. Right in the right in the snow. Oh nice. You know it's fun. I watch the interview with Bob Odin Kirk and Mike particularly asked me he's like who are you jealous of? And he meant like professionally. Yeah. And Bob goes oh anyone that still has little kids at home. And I was like yeah I'm with him. So I got a 14 year old son in the house and I just like to keep her in a box and stop right there. And does and you do.

Punch little holes in the top of this. Yeah it is true. It is true. It is the best part is keeping them young. Yeah. So good. Don't. I get a little sick. My guy's about to turn six. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm going to do form. Hold on like we're doing a party at a place called. No you just said the name of the place. I just want to like it. It's just gonna I'd like it because it's got ninja in the name but it doesn't matter. Well it's a little bit more break. Now you're looking

for a break on the first line. By the way, they're crushing me on the price for this thing for kids. You want it on the weekend, right? You do it during the week. You get a real deal. Fucking Brooklyn. All right. Anyway, so I so I so you're the life work. Work life balance. The challenge is so desperate to know about it's fun. You figure it out. You're working. Everybody knows dads on their. Yes. And by the way, like we we talk about it all the time.

We go away. But everybody has busy. My dad was an actor but he would busy a lot. He was off

working and he actually was like I got to provide for the family. So he's always doing his show.

He's driving down to the mullson and he's checking the taps and then he's coming home. You know, still fresh boys. Why and off somewhere? He was on the road a lot. Right, you know that. Yeah. Yeah. What's a knickerbucker? Well, this is this is an old phrase from New York City.

Metro Pollots and fellow. Maybe where I believe it is. Yes. I could let's go with that. I believe

it is. No, I don't think it's necessarily a dancing man. But will you are you searching it? I don't know search it. That's good or next question. Hey, Siri. What's a knickerbucker? Oh, you're going to send it to the original Dutch settlers. Or knickers in the United States or form of baggy knee breaches. No, it's a person to send it from the original Dutch settlers of New York or more broadly of native or resident of New York City. Do you guys like trivia? Are you guys

are any or are there any of you trivia heads? No. I'm a little bit. I want you to jeopardy. Because, so I was going to mention this, I just got a trivia podcast that he's doing now that we're going to play a game. Oh, for real? It's going to be a fun call for you ask. So, well, well, was going to do it. And he texted me. Oh, I can't do it. And I thought it was going to

be like that. I didn't sound like that exactly this by the way, but I couldn't. That's how I

read your text. And I thought it was going to be like, it works and came up or a kid thing. And he's like, I, I can't, uh, Bateman really wants to go golfing. You how dare you. I told you, I saw you out, you go, because Jason, well, it was here. I did tell you that. That was at that thing a couple weeks ago. It's the last time he played, yeah, it was the last time he was playing before he was leaving to the for New York. So, Bateman says, I'll do it. And so,

Bateman texted me, "Well, why don't you just reschedule? I don't wish you that on time." How do you just reschedule with I? You can do it on a later day. It's going to be on the golf course above. I don't want to sell, like, Holland. All right, so it is. That's who you sound like. I've been trying to place it. Um, now, but did he do it? So I had to be honest. I wanted to be honest with I truly appreciate that because if he would have been like, uh, it's, I have a work thing. And then

I went golfing and saw him there.

I did. He's out of town and I'm waiting for him to get back and I'm going to do it. We're

actually going to do it right after we finish this pot. Yeah, we're going to do it. Well, you got some questions. I, I do have some questions for you. Yeah, I started the trivia podcast because I love trivia, right? I do. I've got to have sex with trivia. I've, I've gone on. Have you been on Jeopardy? I won celebrity, Jeopardy, Mr. Bateman. Yeah, wait. Whoa, wow. Yeah, no one celebrity, Jeopardy. He's one who wants to be a millionaire. Whoa,

I want celebrity who wants to be a millionaire. What's the game in the bars? Um, the, in the bars. Oh, pub trivia? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've done that before. That's very fun. That's very fun. But I want to do a podcast where I interview friends of mine who are like funnier, cool and then ask them trivia questions about subjects that they kind of love to read for. Well, you're, we, we are out to your people. I'm sure you guys want a couple of questions. I wrote,

yeah, some questions. Yeah, obviously obviously obviously. Okay, let's go. Let's go. You can just call the answer if you know it. Okay. There's no buzzer. No, just say your name for the buzzer. Okay. Okay, but, but, but when the battle of the haste, this was, we got, sorry, 19. The battle of the hastings,

this Norman King was the conqueror. We'll have the conqueror. Okay, I believe that question.

Ready? Here we go. This American car, by the way, 1066. Yes, 10666. This American car company sees production in 2004. This American, this, this American car company sees production in 2004,

but was part of GM. Yeah, I know what it is. Jason, Oldsmobile. Yes, Jason. Oh, wow. How do you know

that? Name another Mark's brother besides Groucho or Harpo. Yeah. Oh, Sean. Groucho, Harpo. And, you were in the fucking movie. Richard. No, that was the three doaches. Oh, no, wait, it starts with a P, right? Does it start with a P? Uh, it starts with a C, a C, a G, and a Z. Good. Yeah, uh, Zepo. Zepo. Zepo, Zepo. That's right. That's very good for Chico, Gomo or Zepo. Yeah, the Eastern region of Canada. What's that? Eastern region of Canada, consists of three

provinces, and is known as what? Uh, is known as the, um, the Commonwealth. No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm in the, in the, in the mayor times. Yes, uh, who was the 10th US president? Oh, God. Jason. Yes. Lincoln. McKinley. No. John Tyler. This actress has won more Emmys than any other actor. Jason. Yes. - Is it chili or a dry face? - It is chili or a dry face.

Isaac Newton, Charles Dickens, and Oliver Cromwell are buried in what London landmark. - Jason, it is the big church. The big castles, the big houses. - Wait a minute.

- Boom. - Two more.

This man is the NHL's all-time leading score.

- Sean, I don't know. - Wait, Chris. - Jason Winkers. - Wait, Chris. - No, it's a veg kid.

- What do you call that score?

No score of goals. Score, I was including points. - Oh, okay. - Sorry. - I knew it was a best shot last goal, sorry.

- Last one, infant insects are called Nymphs or Small Bugs. - Jason. (laughing) (laughing) - infant insects are called Small Bugs.

- Small Bugs are larvae, I don't know. - larvae is correct. Nice job, guys. You guys got to the majority of those right. - God, that's so cool that three of us

could get 20% of the brats. (laughing) - Welcome to Smartlist. (laughing) - Well, what's the name of that?

What's the name of that podcast there? - That podcast, Jason, thank you for asking us called "Funny You Ask." - How funny was that? - Well, that seems like a tune in.

- And you just had our friend, you just had our mutual friend Adam Palay on there who hosts a podcast for us, which I love with him and you give us. - Yeah.

- Well, it's that one called Crossblog, "Cross Playing a Life." - Crossblog, "Staying a Life." - So, it's a smart, less media podcast. Check it wherever you get your podcast.

- Yeah. - He's a Gabriel's an Anipali. - Anipali is so fucking funny. - He is the funniest dude. - He is so fucking funny that dude, is he? - He said I was asking him what would you give,

what would you do if the next could win the championship?

- And I named a bunch of things, like would you change your middle name to Stalin? He was like, "Yes." - Yes, I was like, "Would you, every time you turn on the TV "if the rest of your life, it's only Kill Tony."

He's like, "Yes." And one thing he said he wouldn't do is give up chicken parm. - Yes, I can't give up chicken parm, I'm sure you asked you. - Now, do you have a co-host on your show? - No, it's all me, man.

It's so low. - Wow. - It's once a week. - It's once a week, and I write our questions for my guests. It's one hour. - You do all your own questions.

- I write the questions for the guests, and I really love doing that. It's like, it's a fun way to kind of like get into there, head a little bit, and then my producer Anipel writes

The questions that the guests ask me,

because I also want to do a podcast where I answer questions.

- Well, that's still like a lot of work that you're doing.

- You're doing all the shit that you're doing. - Yes, yeah. - You're writing writing point, you're E-Ping that show, you're doing the studio, you're doing this podcast, you're running around and doing all this like,

how the fuck are you got an adder all addiction? - Yeah, well, I have a minor speed addiction that we're trying to kick right now. - You're gonna cut this. - You know, let's get the guys kind of the trend point,

and I'm gonna get a number point. With the podcast and the movies and the being a father and everything else, when do you slow down, what do you do to slow down? - Yoga.

- When Jason was saying I like to watch TV, that's like my favorite thing to do, it's like a trend of the day is to watch like, and what's your favorite? - Is it reality TV?

- Something dumb? - The only reality I'm read out of TV not too much. We just finished beef season two. - Sure. - I like watching good TV shows.

- So you'll get your climate, and the we is, is that the girlfriend or the wife? - That's the wife, the girlfriend is not like TV, the girlfriend wants to go out to the night sky and all. - Yeah, she wants you to go out to night club,

she likes bottle service.

- I don't know why we're talking like that.

- She actually is works at the club and does the bottle service. - Of course, that makes a lot of sense. - I don't know if you guys had this with your wife or my wife does want to go to bed early or new.

- Yeah, she works for a while. - And so there's some nice where it's like eight, 52, and she's like, should we just go to bed? And it's like this, it's like a push and pull. We're like, no, we have to watch like 46 minutes

of a TV show right now. - But what about, why can't you, but you're not watching the TV shows in bed? - We did not put a TV in our bed. - That's smart, that's terrible, seriously.

- Shut up, like you were in there. - You were supposed to keep in the sex alive. - No, yeah, TV in there, this is bullshit. - But so you're watching, by the way, that beef season two, I, can I just shout out,

obviously Chuck earned it, but Carrie Mulligan. (laughing) - The great Carrie Mulligan, the great Carrie Mulligan. - The great Carrie Mulligan. - Carrie Mulligan is,

the most underrated actor of our generation. - She's really good. - She is Carrie's great. - Yeah. - I fucking love.

- I will say, though, that always sounds like a bad,

like, that always sounds like a bad kind of compliment. I will say, those who know what they're talking about, she is not underrated, they're talking plainly. - No, I know, I just mean, I just mean, I just mean, she should be lauded,

there should just be permanent billboards up for, not even promoting a movie, just because she's agree with you. - I, I, I guess you should take, you should buy some, take them out. - I will.

- I don't know if Marcus will, her husband'll love it. He might think that, you know what I mean? - I'm sorry, it's a little much. - Anyway. - Hey, yeah, we are at hour one.

- I know we're at hour one and we're at hour one. - Let's get to our first question. - I love, I love fucking, I just love hanging out with Mike. I was so excited. I said to Sean before we were faced,

I mean, before, you know, the core part of smart us were faced, I mean, before he just shunned in me. And we were, and I was saying, he was saying as your guest, good.

I said, oh, our guest is so good. We just want to hang out and laugh and we'll do that, like that's exactly right. - Do you have any questions, Will? - No, fuck no, I do, I think.

- I had a bunch, like what's a note that you've gotten, there's an actor or a writer that really changed how you put your work, you've collaborated with a lot of comedic voices, what do you think makes you collaborated with?

- Budget cares. - Oh, there are. - This is the no-one, this is it, this is the show. - Did you jay-o today? (laughter)

- I'm religious, I'm in a hotel room by myself. - I'm not sad. (laughter)

- I went to the first show,

when I see the next video come out, 'cause I can't wait.

- That's not, that's gonna come out next March, I believe.

- Fuck off, March 22, wow. - Fixing that long to cut it together? - Fuck you. - It's up with Rogan and fucking Evan, what are they doing? - Man, they're smoking dubies, man.

- I know, there's guys who smoke in the grass. - I bought one of, I told, I bought one of Seth's, his standing-ass dress, no, I bought two of them, and I sent him a pick, and I said, I am supporting the cause, you know.

- As an investor, I say, thank you. - Oh, no shit. - Yeah, a little bit, fuck it. Well, you guys want to cut me a deal, I fucking read 'til on the fucking website, dude.

- I only invested in my friend's companies. We had a no money in the market, no mutual funds, no Roth IRA, I just invested in my friend's small ones. - That is, that's it. - That's right.

- What's your email? I'm gonna send you a perspective on something. - Yeah. - It's an old email, it's dumbass, I could, AOL. (laughter)

- Yeah, I gotta show it for a myriad reasons. Your form and it's over will. - I know, I know, I just want to say, I love, I love having you, I love that you, I love that the rest of the world

appreciates what a fucking great, funny dude you are, increasingly, and I've loved watching the success you've had with the studio,

I'm just fucking always rooting for you

as you reach these crazy heights, and everybody with the studio came out at earlier. I light up every time I see you. - 100% you always have a great vibe, and then now you've taken to the next level,

and like everybody's like, have you, people are like, have you seen Ike Baronhood on the fucking studio, he's so fucking funny, you're so fucking good. - And aside from all that, you get hired over and over

because you're normal and easy and kind,

A good person.

- You are talented. - You are. - That's a side from all the talent.

- It is true, if you're, if you're listening out there

to our listener, and you've got to script, if you've got to script, Ike is the guy that's sent it to. - Yep, even one more time, you'll put his name on it. - Don't ask like it, AOL. - I might not be the best actor of the funniest actor,

but I'm on time, and I'm respectful. - Yeah, and that is all that matters. - You are truly, for our list, so I will say truly, you're one of the fucking great good dudes out there, and that, and I really mean that.

- This is a bucket list thing for me, guys. - Fuck up, I'm dying. - What I got, this guy, taken another bow. (upbeat music) - Don't want it only.

- Thank you, Ike, for joining us, my friend. - Give her love to everybody over there on your cast that you guys are doing. The Baptist was, tell them we say hi. We love you guys, and they love you.

- Amazing, love you. - Hurry home. - Thank you, bye, everybody. - Bye. - Bye. - I love that, Tune.

I love that, Tune.

- That's one of those fellas that I have not yet worked with,

and I'm not happy about it, you know? And, you know, who else, like Seth, Evan,

shut up at town, like, I've never been,

never been included in that group. - Yeah, that's all right, never, you know, said, "Hey, won't you come on over and..." - Okay, now stop, stop for a second, take a beat. Let's look at ourselves, Jason.

Let's look at ourselves for a second. - What's my part in it? - What is your role in what is my part in it? - What is my part in it? - I think I'm gonna get a mirror.

- Let me get the mirror. - Don't get one of those true mirrors. Don't get one of those true mirrors. - Look at true mirror. - Have you ever seen those?

It's not even just a reflects, like, it kind of sees, like what the world sees of you, it's inverted. - It's a very, it's Gary AF. - Wait, really? It's different that you just, your face is flipped.

- Yeah, you look, yes, have you never done it?

- I think the iPhone, if you reverse the camera,

is, that's the way people see you. - I don't remember. - No, you just see the room you're in. - I don't remember. - Yeah, but I mean, that's the perspective

of people looking at you. - Oh, you're in luck and my team just called, they have an opening. (laughing) - Like what I'm looking at right now on this Zoom,

I'm assuming that is the perspective that you would have if you were sitting across from me. - Right? - 'Cause it's camera's in front of you. - Yeah, yeah, I guess so.

- I'm not sure, but when we get Tyson now, Neil's best Tyson on the floor, please. - This is so depressing. - Wait, Sean's got the Harry Comps question. I'm just gonna see his eye.

- Oh, here it is. - He's got a DM, okay. - Just DM him, a little biothera. - No, no, let me see. - Yeah, that's him.

- Oh, good. - Okay. - I'm looking up something else. Nothing to do with. - Oh, I'm scrolling scroll.

- Do you remember the, - Oh, so hey, do you guys see how this is? - It's a weird thing I was just thinking about. (laughing) - Do you remember that Beatles song

or Paul McCartney song where you're seeing about a bird or something?

- Oh, oh, oh, wait a second.

- Blackbird? - Yeah, I was gonna... - I was about to talk about it. - I'm out of left, fuck. - Yeah, that's what I filmed.

- That's where I filmed it. - That's where I filmed it. - And when the ball goes out of a wriggly field, you say, "What to it?" You say, "Bi-Bi-Ball."

"Bi-Bi-Blackbird." - Hey, you guys, where did you go? - Blackbird, bye. - Hey, bye. (laughing)

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