Snapped: Women Who Murder
Snapped: Women Who Murder

Lillie Mae Eubank

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After returning from several tours of duty abroad, a soldier is found beaten to death on his own army base in Hinesville, Ga.Season 33 Episode 24Originally aired: Sun, Jun 30, 2024Watch full episodes...

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A soldier's brutal murder shocks a Georgia military base.

We had a deceased service member and the circumstances around his death were a note.

He'd been so badly beaten that he actually had brain matter exuding from his skull.

Witness accounts point to a suspect close to the victim. He wanted to go animal tracking. My uncle and my setfather both went into the woods, only one came out. She said he looked praised in his eyes. But as the investigation unfolds, detectives sort through lies and misdirection to catch

a ruthless killer driven by greed.

Everything she said was a lie.

Every emotion she displayed was fake. He went from finding the woods just to come home and die, like "That makes us lose those hits to me." November 30, 2013 It's the Saturday after Thanksgiving, and soldiers at Georgia's Fort Stewart Army Base are enjoying a sunny afternoon with their families. Fort Stewart is quite large, and it's home to about 20,000 soldiers.

But around 5pm, a shocking discovery at a park located on Fort Stewart's military base interrupts the community's weekend plans. The 911 call came into the Fort Stewart 911 dispatch center, reporting a body, a male, found just about 10 feet into the wood line. The victim was not conscious, but was alive and was struggling to breathe.

The gentleman who called reported that he and other military members were rendering aid. He had been so badly beaten that he actually had brain matter exuding from his skull. There was no identification on this victim. He had like army boots on, and so that led us to the thought that this was possibly a soldier. Police and paramedics arrive on scene, and quickly transport the victim to nearby win army

hospital. The victim did not survive the attack very long. He was pronounced dead. His skull was badly fractured in a number of places. He had a number of lacerations.

The injuries were indicative of a homicide, and that's how we treated the case going

forward. Because this was very apparently a purposeful assault.

First responders notify the army's criminal investigative division.

The TID or criminal investigation division are what I would call the FBI of the military. They will investigate anything from fellow news to misdemeanors. By the following morning, the entire base is working with investigators to identify the victim found in the woods. Every commander was instructed to perform a full accountability of his or her unit.

The only soldier on the base that had not been accounted for was specialist John Ubeck. His soldiers from specialist Ubeck's unit went to win army hospital to attempt to identify the victim. I was able to identify John when they kicked the sheet back. His injuries were very severe, but I could still tell that was John.

But last time I seen his man, he was healthy, full of life, and to be reduced to land on the steel slab.

Be down like that, that's how to deal with it.

Like who would do this to him? John Ubeck was born on December 15th, 1983, in the remote Alaskan town of Mountain Village. John's family were Ubeck Alaskan natives, and his indigenous heritage was a central

Part of his identity.

John was definitely a big on his culture being an Native American.

He was always a big on family and taking care of his family and always looking off of

him as best he could.

John was never scared to show that he loved his family.

He would talk about his family and how they would do everything together. Growing up in a town of less than 1,000 people, made John eager to see the world. So a few weeks before his 20th birthday, he enlisted in the Army. I'd serve with John for two deployments. He was a goofball, and no matter what kind of mood you were in, he would always put us

my laundry face. After basic training, John was deployed to Iraq in 2004, where he served as a heavy vehicle driver. We were part of the same team. We provided transportation security.

The thing that started to meet the most about John on the planet, he tried his best to keep

it cool and calm. He dealt with pretty much everything that you can imagine being shot at with. Because John was from Alaska, we gave him the nickname of the Alaska-Assassin. Between 2004 and 2008, John served two deployments in Iraq. As much as he loved the service, he began dreaming of having someone to come home to.

John was looking for someone that loved him as much as he would love them. But when it came to dating, the brave soldier was an unfamiliar territory. He wasn't given really a lot of opportunities to date, and John wasn't the biggest social butterfly. To help overcome his shyness, John tried online dating while deployed.

He soon hit it off with 34-year-old single mother, Lily May Wells. After a string of bad relationships and moving around, Lily was looking for another chance at love. John explained to me that Lily's background for what she told him was a little rough, I guess she was abused. Lily would do a lot of pet rescue.

She would nurse him back to hell for, get them back up to par, and find them good homes. And that was something that she was very passionate about. After the duration of the deployment, they would right back and forth, talk on the phone together, he couldn't wait to meet her when he got back.

In the winter of 2008, John and Lily finally met in person when he returned home to Fort Stewart.

She had came from Florida. Lily had told me that he was extremely happy about it, Lily was just a way that she was online as in person. After months of a long distance relationship, the couple couldn't wait to spend every moment together.

He moved into unpost-housing, and it wasn't long before they got married. It was like it happened overnight. It was how everybody this was his wife, and he was ecstatic to have somebody. John was equally excited by the idea of becoming a stepfather to Lily's children.

When I first met him, I was not happy about it.

I thought it was him tooth and nail, but I warmed up so I'm pretty fast, I think.

That time John came into my life, I was already in my teens. He was about 10 years younger than Mom. He was young, and he was still trying to learn what it meant to be a stepdad. I can understand now what I look back at it, that he was just trying to figure out where he fit in the puzzle.

I didn't make these really funny faces, and there's no way you could not laugh. Over the next five years, John continued to work his way up the military ranks, but his hopes for the future centered on his family. John was hopeful to have his own children, but on the same hand, he loved those children,

They were his own children.

But tragically, that future never came to be.

After surviving multiple tours in combat zones, John has met an unimaginable fate near

the military base he calls home. We had a deceased service member, and the circumstances around his death were unknown. So it was our job to figure out how John you think was killed. Army CID initially processed the scene, they found some brain matter, they found teeth, but became clear to the investigators that this was the site of the actual assault.

The crime scene provides few leads, but when investigators can visit the area, they learn that the killer made of made one costly mistake. One of the persons who was helping the victim told investigators she had seen a white or gray pickup truck in that area, and that the pickup truck was rolling very slowly and

occasionally stopping as if it was waiting for something or hesitant to leave.

Very shortly before that pickup truck left the area, a man came out from the woodline. She had provided a physical description of a white male with long-ish maybe shoulder-length hair, average build, who was wearing jeans and a long sleeves top. That could be the last person who had seen him alive, and we even needed to find out who this person was.

A grieving widow and her daughter share a disturbing first hand account.

I told them everything that I knew I didn't hold back anything. And investigators zero in on a person of interest. He had a very extensive criminal history, he threatened to kill her, choked her, and

held her against her work, he was a ticking time bomb.

The day after finding soldier John Ubank's body, military police are investigating their first lead after a witness reported seeing suspicious activity moments before his body was found. She had actually witnessed a man come out from the woodline, walk around the back of the truck, and get in just before it departed. Unfortunately, the witness did not see a license plate number for the vehicle, so identifying

the suspect will take more legwork. At that point, staff sergeants, in specialist John Ubank's unit, decided to call his dependent spouse, and that was Lily Ubank. Lily answered the phone and told them that she was actually about to call the MPs, because she stated her husband specialist Ubank had not come home that night, and that she had not

seen him since the previous afternoon. The sergeant asked whether she had filed a missing person's report, and she said she had not because she believed she had to wait 24 hours before she could do that. Rather than deliver news of John's death over the phone, military police sent a car to bring Lily in.

The casually assistance officer informed Lily that her husband's specialist John Ubank was deceased. She simply said over and over again who would do this to him, who would do something like this to him.

Lily Ubank's response was puzzling and very suspicious in that she never asked what happened,

because nobody had informed her of the cause or manner of death. Despite her grief, Lily does her best to answer investigators' questions. Lily May Ubank reported that she had last seen her husband on November 30, around 430 at the Holbrook Pond Recreation Area. He wanted to go animal tracking, so she and her daughter Angel Wells had dropped him off to

go off into the woods. He had told her to just go on ahead home that he would walk home himself. John's body was found at 5 p.m. just 30 minutes later. Lily described her marriage with John as a good marriage.

She loved him very much.

He provided for their family, and he was the father figure to her two daughters.

She was telling me about how she was texting back and forth with John, and he was saying,

you know, things like, oh yeah, we're having a good time, which caused the suspicion of who's we. She explained that he was he was referring to him being with the deer. So these messages between her and John really gave me interest in what was on her cell phone. When I asked Lily to be able to search her cell phone, she seemed really open to the idea and not reluctant to share that with me.

While CID waits for the analysis, they let Lily go home and continue gathering information

from friends and service members. We found a team over to their neighborhood, to canvas their neighbors, and ask them what they've seen.

When officers pass the U-Bank home, they notice something surprising in their driveway.

It was interesting for agents to see a silver pick-up truck because I witnesses at Hubert Cond had seen a white or a silver and color pick-up truck, slowly rolling past the location where John U-Bank was found. When speaking with neighbors, they confirmed that Lily drives the truck, and also share another piece of information, Lily left out of her statement. Some neighbors reported that on the evening of John U-Bank's murder, which was November 30th,

they saw a person they knew to be Lily U-Bank's brother Carl Swain, departing the residence.

In her timeline, she never once mentioned that her brother had been in town visiting.

My uncle Carl was a little off the wall. I asked her why my uncle Carl even came here,

and she had told me that my uncle Carl wanted to try to rebuild their relationship.

Nobody really had a relationship with him because he's literally been out of prison my entire life. When investigators confront Lily, she says that Carl was in town for Thanksgiving, but she took him to the bus station that evening. He didn't live there, and so she took him to the bus station to send him back home. Agent Zasero demands to know why Lily U-Bank wouldn't have mentioned that her brother has been in town.

Lily responds that she was actually just trying to protect her brother Carl. She had purchased his ticket to travel from Alabama to Savannah and back. And the explanation that Lily gave was he had some sort of criminal history that would prevent him from traveling outside of the state. Investigators ask Lily to give her full statement again.

When asked to now tell a truthful statement, Lily said that she was not truthful when she said she dropped John U-Bank off at Holbrook Pond to go animal tracking by himself. She said that in reality she and her daughter Angel had driven John U-Bank and Carl Swain to Holbrook Pond. And had dropped them both off that afternoon to supposedly go animal tracking. The John U-Bank had gotten out of the truck and departed with a slingshot,

and that Carl Swain had a wooden baseball bat. Lily says the men took the weapons to fend off any wild hogs they might run into, so she didn't think anything of it at the time. She and her daughter ran some errands, then returned a few hours later to pick them up. Lily and Angel come back and as they pull around they see Carl up in the woodline with the

baseball bat, hitting something repeatedly. Shortly thereafter Carl comes down from the woodline and gets in the vehicle with them. He is exasperated, has blood on him in the baseball bat, had blood on it. Lily inquired to Carl, hey what happened? And Carl said that they were scared or spooked by a hog and he was up there beating the hog in John ran off like a little bit. My uncle and my son father both went into the woods, only one came out.

She said he looked crazed in his eyes and still a little amped up.

Lily claims she took Carl's explanation at face value when it happened, but investigators are

quick to challenge her story. As I continue to interview Lily, I kind of lay out all the facts to

her of, okay? Your husband went missing yesterday. You saw your brother beating quote unquote a pig in the woods, your husband is deceased. Common sense would tell you that the likelihood that it was Carl who killed your husband is high and she continued to

claim ignorance. She believes that she simply a sort of victim in all of this and that she never

knew that was going to happen. Investigators keep pressing. The agents didn't believe her. They

pressed her on that story and ultimately Lily admitted that she had seen Swain was beating something

and that wasn't a hog that it was actually the body of John eBay. Lily may you bank has just confessed to seeing her brother Carl Swain beat her husband to death.

We knew she was involved but we didn't know the extent of how she was involved at this point in

investigation. But now Lily is willing to work with investigators to help build a case against John's killer. She agreed to make a sureptitious recorded phone call to Carl Swain

that CID would listen in on. We asked her to ask Carl about what happened to the bat to try to

get Carl to make some sort of admission. So of course Carl's very suspicious when he gets a call from Lily he puts together the fact that he's probably being overheard on the phone. He told her I don't know what you're talking about and that was about the extent of the conversation. Lily is not apprehended at this point but was very clearly a person of interest. With Carl thwarting the attempt at self-incrimination, investigators work with the FBI to try a

different route. Lily you banked place her daughter Angel Wells at the crime scene. We then had to interview Angel to verify not only her mom's story but also try and put the pieces together what actually happened that day. During her interview Angel corroborates everything her mother told police when we were coming back the pick of mom. I saw Carl swinging back towards the ground then he stopped and then came out the woods and then got over the truck. He had blood splattered

on her face as if he would if he took spaghetti sauce on a spoon and splattered it on a wall. He said that he had hit the wild board in the head one hit and busted his head open. I did not believe Carl. I asked Carl to see the back and did it to me that was hand still in the back splattered in the wood. Angel says she felt like she knew what really happened but like her mother she was afraid Carl might kill her too. And no idea why my uncle would do that.

My granny said that he was a ticking time bomb and he had angry issues. When investigators checked Carl's police record, it confirms Lily and Angel had good reason to fear him. He had a very extensive criminal history. The most blaring was an assault against a former wife where he threatened to kill her choked her and held her against her wife.

They wanted to make sure they got him into custody as soon as possible.

With Lily's help, authorities are able to track Carl to an address in Alabama on December 6.

They took swing into custody really without any incident.

The agents then went into the warehouse where Carl was living and they looked for any items of interest that might tie him to the murder of John. In the furthest reaches of the crawlspace, they found John Ubank's military sea bag. And when they opened it, they found a pair of blue jeans and a pair of cowboy boots that they submitted to the lab. Carl denies having anything to do with John's death but results of the

forensic tests show otherwise. It was determined that the jeans contained the DNA of both Carl

Swain and John Ubank. Carl is charged with first-degree murder and extradited to Georgia to face trial.

Three weeks after the arrest on December 27, John Ubank's loved ones gather for a memorial service.

It was tough. When I had to hand his mother that flagged at the funeral and that was something I ever did in my life. But when John's fellow service members learn how he died, they're immediately suspicious. Nobody had ever heard of him going how cunning before. We kind of had a good feeling that something just did seem right. After the funeral, John's comrades sure they're concerns with Army CID.

They said that John was very good about managing his money before he met Mary Lily.

But that after he married her, he always was needing to borrow money.

We were concerned because of the financial struggle because of the way he was

not associating with us the same way as he did before he got married. There's a culture in the military that you don't show weakness. Number one, you don't go around airing your problems to everybody. John's friends say they were confused by the sudden change until they discovered the reason for it. Lily took over his finances when they got together.

There were a lot of times where she would write out checks that were back. She had no control when I came to money. Mama seemed to be really bossy and if she didn't get a response back from him, really quite she seemed to get really upset. And as fellow soldiers say, John finally decided to do something about it during his last deployment.

He was bound to determine to get the divorce when he came back home because he had had enough. All John Ubank wanted with somebody to be nice to him and to care about him and when he

came to the realization that Lily Ubank was never going to do that and that all she wanted him for

was his money and a roof over her head. He was bold enough finally to broach the topic of divorce. But once he did that, he was worth more debt than alive. Coming up, phone records reveal the details of a murder for higher. Each day involved a new type of plan to kill John Ubank. But can detectives prove who was behind it?

She seemed relieved almost that she finally was done with hiding all the facts. Six days after John Ubank's body was discovered, bloodgened to death on Fort Stewart Army Base, investigators have arrested Carl Swain for his murder. But they suspect John's wife Lily was involved as well. There were too many red flags, such as Carl not being included and her story from the beginning.

We're starting to believe that Lily is a subject in this case versus a grievi...

To help investigators prove Lily is responsible,

John's friend Tamisa records several conversations with her, hoping she'll slip up.

I didn't care if I needed to use my cell phone or wear a wire or recording device. I was going to find out what had happened. So, when she was new, at that moment, what he was doing, I don't know. So, we can stop it. It's not the main fear of saying. I had to thanks strategically because I really wanted to make sure that I didn't do anything to

alarm her. She tells Tamisa that she and her daughter live in fear of Carl, despite the fact that he's been arrested.

It'll come out to be an angel. I know it will.

Why would he go after you guys? Because it's a witness, it's a witness, this is how they could testify against it. The tapes are turned over to the FBI, but there's nothing incriminating enough to make an arrest.

When agents confront Lily for the third time, she admits there's more to the story,

but says it's not what they think. Lily's story is that she was experiencing marital difficulties, claiming that he had physically assaulted her and that he was verbally and emotionally abusive. Lily claims she turned to her brother for help. Lily, you bank told me that she asked her brother Carl to rough up her husband.

To scare John into acting appropriately to her. Swain was only supposed to beat John up with his fists and instead he went wild and out of control

and murdered him with his baseball bat.

But with all the lies leading up to this, investigators are no longer inclined to believe her. At this point, Lily, you bank has changed her story three times. We couldn't find that there was actually abuse happening. The investigators that I was working with in myself all found this very problematic. It's clear Lily isn't going to tell them the truth and so far Carl has remained silent as well.

But while he's in jail, awaiting trial, Carl makes a crucial mistake.

He told two detainees in the Chatham County jail what he had done that he had beaten John you banked to death. Swain had confided in them that he had done this at the behest of his sister, Lily you banked because she was going to get $500,000 after the murder as the greeting widow and that he was going to be owed $160,000 for his part in the murder. Service members are covered by something called the servicemen's group life insurance policy,

SGLI. Lily you banked was the beneficiary of those life insurance benefits. Every emotion Lily you banked displayed was fake. Lily you bank cared about nothing other than Lily you banked. When investigators received the analysis for Lily's phone records, they find further evidence of a murder plot.

Special agent Freiman found a string of tax messages between Lily you bank and Carl Swain. From the tax messages from investigators were able to discern that Lily you banked had been planning to an attempting to kill John you banked from much longer than was initially suspected. Back in April of 2013, she had a conversation with one of her daughters about John wanting a divorce. We can tell from Lily you banked internet search history. That's when she started planning his murder.

Lily's content for searches conducted on her phone, included how to drown somebody in a bathtub, as well as poisons that will not be identified on an autopsy. In September of 2013, Lily texted, I baked him a strawberry vanilla bean cake.

Special agent Freiman was able to uncover that vanilla bean was actually sort...

for a castor bean which can be used to make rice and poison. She thought that by baking

castor beans into a cake she had created rice and was going to effectively poison him to death.

The attempt to poison John failed, but text show Lily kept looking for solutions. One of the things that came up in discussion was a trip to Tybee Island. There was mention of John not being a good swimmer and then so potential attempts at maybe a drowning. That plan didn't work out. The next day was Thanksgiving and the day after sitting at John

Yubank's Thanksgiving table, Carl Swain then invited John Yubank out for that walk. John never once,

probably knew it was coming because he assumed this is something that John and Carl were doing to

maybe bond to like get to know one another. After putting together the text messages,

search history and motive, we were able to have enough to charge Lily in the murder of John Yubank as well. On February 26, detectives confront Lily with the evidence and this time she has a different reaction.

She seemed relieved almost that she finally was done with hiding all the facts.

Lily Yubank confessed that in reality she had not asked Carl Swain to beat up John Yubank as retaliation for some sort of abuse. It was simply an expectation of a $500,000 death

activity. At this point Lily was arrested and charged with murder, conspiracy to commit murder

and murder for higher. I was like what the do you mean she's been arrested for what like and didn't click effort? We were fortunate in that we had an excellent investigation that had

produced overwhelming evidence, but a prosecutor still never walks into a jury trial thinking

it's a sure thing. But defend it really has nothing to lose. After a three-month investigation, Lily May Yubank and her brother Carl Swain have both been charged for the murder of John Yubank. But as prosecutors prepare the case for trial, Lily tries to lay the blame entirely on Carl. Lily Yubank maintained that Carl Swain had demanded the money from her and essentially had twisted Lily's arm to participate in this plan.

Like her other claims, the evidence doesn't support it. Lily told us she purchased the bat a couple weeks prior to the murder with John for protection and their vehicle in the event it broke down. Investigators went to Walmart to pull surveillance footage and sure enough they found footage at the self-checkout where John Yubank was actually purchasing the bat that was ultimately used in his murder. It just showed how just heartless she was.

A part of me wants to believe in my mom, but there's just so much other evidence that says otherwise. Lily Yubank was incredibly cold and calculating throughout this murder plot all the while pretending to be John Yubank's loving wife. Lily wouldn't have deleted Carl Swain's impoverished situation to entice him to come to Hinesville and murder her husband. Carl was homeless and living on the edge. 160,000 dollars would be a great

motivated to anyone in his situation. Not even jail stops Lily from continuing her manipulation tactics. She didn't like being in the local jail so she would make herself seriously ill such that she would

Have to be transported to a hospital facility.

pretended to be absolutely catatonic. The defense attorney for Lily tried to bring a defense

of mental capacity. The ploy gets Lily what she wants, a psychiatric evaluation,

but her plan backfires. The court found that she was stable enough to not only be charged,

but go to trial if she chose to. She chose not to and took a plea agreement to

conspiracy to commit murder. Lily is sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

In March 2015, more than a year after John's murder, Lily's brother Carl goes on trial.

The evidence was just so overwhelming. I don't think there was much the defense could do here.

Carl was found guilty on all three charges. Murder conspiracy to commit murder and murder for higher. Each of those charges brings a mandatory minimum sentence of life in prison. So Carl received three life sentences and he will remain there without any opportunity to be released.

I think justice was served because they would never have the opportunity to be outside those walls again.

Neither one of them deserve to have a life outside of prison. John should be remembered as a hero, a friend, and for just who he was to each and everyone. My dad did not deserve to die like that. He went from fight awards just to come home and die like that makes absolutely no sense to me. Carl's Wayne is serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole at USP Terrahot. Although Lily wasn't incarcerated in a Georgia women's prison,

she secured a transfer to the federal medical center.

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