Spittin' Chiclets Episode 626: Featuring Darren Dreger & Matt Duchene

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You know what I'm talking about, is you know exactly what I'm talking about. Oh yeah, guys, it is Thursday, currently 12, 27 p.m. We got some news to talk about. We have a big trade from the St. Louis Blues

and the Buffalo Sabers that isn't even officially a trade. We got a lot. It's, it's one of the most bizarre situations that I can remember. We'll get into it in a minute.

But I just do want to mention. If you're listening, today Friday morning, hopefully. The game notes trade special extravaganza. One to three Eastern today. Hopefully you guys tuned into that.

Hopefully we've a bunch of action coming down to the end. As you remember last year, Grinnelly poured water on himself when Martian went to the Boston Bruins.

“I think it ended up turning to a first round pick”

for the bees, probably worked out pretty good for them. And the Panthers won the Stanley Cup and Brad Martian dominated. So that was the storyline from last year's deadline. Will we have a major move this year? I don't know.

But as of right now, guys, I saw, that would be the biggest blue ball kind of like the Parenco deal if we don't get something major. Like everybody seems like they're in play right now. If nothing ends up going down

and then we get the correct Parenco cock block situation, this will be the biggest let down deadline of all time. Yeah, sunk deadline. So yesterday when it broke, Parenco to the Sabers right away,

our group chat started firing off and it was like, wow, what a can decore they have. Okay. Like this is awful. He's an absolute horse.

He's great defensively. He skates pretty well for his size. He's just exactly what they needed. They already got Samus and Dolan's been a Norris trophy type level player this season.

It's like they are coming together by room and own power. And then all of a sudden it's like, well, he hasn't no trade clause. And the way that it came out to me, I was like, oh, done deal.

He waived and then it's coming in like, no, he actually hasn't.

“Now this was about, I think close to 24 hours ago.”

He hasn't waived and it brings up a conversation of these no move clauses.

And it's incredible when players get them.

I'm very happy that players get them. They have the right to use it and to, you know, be able to say, no, I'm not going there. But the way the GMs have looked at it and I get it from the business side. It's like, well, I want to trade you and I'm going to put it

out there that we have traded you. And then it's all on you. So it's created this like very uncomfortable atmosphere for certain guys, right? Like, because now Parik and the insiders and the insiders

because they're breaking trades. And we have Darren Drager on. We just interviewed him. We go over a list of names and what could happen? What has happened?

And he said, this whole situation is taking years off as professional career because you hear, all right, this deal is done. I've heard from one source that he will wave. And then I've seen way more today,

including from Patty Maroon, like no chance. Why would he? So as a player, Keith and Biz, like, I find it so hard to not wave based on the fact that they've told you, like, we don't want you anymore.

And how do you walk back into the room? - Do you think it has anything to do with Duggy Armstrong not going to be there next year? He's like, "Fuck it, I'm going to-- - No, thanks, so." - No, no, no, no, I, a couple things.

I think that just like the eating half a player's contract when you send them out, you get three bullets for it. I think there should be a certain cap and amount of players on your active roster that you, as an organization,

have handed a no move clause to. I think there are no trade lists. No, I think, I don't think there's a cap on how many, if a guy's like, hey, I want to sign this contract and I want a 12 team, no trade list.

I don't think that you could have seven, eight, like, look, I, I think that if you look at some teams, they have like eight or nine guys with certain, or, or partial, no move clauses.

on the amount of players that you can do that for. And like you said, guys, there's no player, like it goes back to the true but incident and when Pasha was fucking bitching about him, if you have that and you can go straight to that,

“you should exercise that to the 10th degree.”

Now, in Colton, Parenko's situation. If he's happy and St. Louis is, I'm pretty sure would, is he married with kids? - He has a group on Patty said that that's from St. Louis, like he does a lot with the community.

- Lot with the community and he doesn't want to leave there, that's his right, but I just look at the fact that if there's a chance at Robert Thomas is gonna go,

maybe Bennington goes and they're basically

in partial if not full rebuild mode. And you have the hopper tourney to go to the Buffalo Sabers where we just talked about this back end. Like with him there, there would be literally no holes. That cessering guy's there.

And then I don't think outside a bullbire room, they don't have a defenseman. That's like under sixth. - Right, and monsters. - There are monsters, there's a bullbile.

And this is a team now that I think all of us can agree, they're gonna be a top three team in the east for at least the next four or five years with what they got and where they're headed. So, to me, I'm a little surprised in a guy

that's played for Team Canada who's a natural winner. He wanted there when they wanted what was it? 19 or maybe 17. - That's amazing. - In 19, I guess I'm just a little surprised

that he wouldn't wanna go enjoy the second part

of his career on a team that is gonna win the lot of hockey games. The fan base is re-agnited. But I mean, you guys have seen with the Tage Thompson at the other night with Vegas coming to town, that felt like it was the fucking eastern,

and he's their conference finalized. - When was the last time you saw towels for the fans at a regular season game? And people were on them for that. It's like fuck off, buddy.

- Fuck you. - There's 26-year-olds that don't remember, I'll play off games. - Yeah. - Yeah.

So, going back to Parenko and the fact that it didn't all go down, I'm shocked and maybe it comes out today that he ends up finally saying, you know what? This is the right move for me and my family, but it's hard 'cause he's probably got a lot of decisions to make.

I'm sure he wants to talk to Steener and Armstrong and say, "Hey, where exactly do you think this team is going?" And at least let me get as much information before I make this life altering change. So, a lot going on, but I definitely feel like,

as we've progressed and we've seen these like CBAs where people are able to expose them in certain ways, you see these different rules added in order to change things up to change the, I guess essentially the game at hand,

“I think that the limiting of the no move,”

no trade teamless thing needs the fucking change. - I would almost say that, and, buddy,

I don't wanna, I would never wanna screw over a player

in a contract, but like, just don't even have no moves. Now, that players want that. They sign a seven-year deal a six-year deal. They'd like to know if, if I got 15 teams that want me, I'm gonna pick one and then know that I'm gonna be there.

The point is now though, they don't even matter. They matter in a sense that Pareco could say, "No, I'm not going," but then it's like, personally, I just, I would never wanna be on a team that has traded me, even with what I had,

the language in my contract, they're still out there like, "No, we're trading it." It's like, "I would have a hard time going back to that." And I don't think it's personal, right? This is all business, but, buddy, I sign this deal with you.

I want to, excuse me, I want to be here. And you're not honoring anything that was in the deal. Like, and listen, players do this at the same breath. Like, "Hey, cut a goat there, I'm not signing with you, trade me." Like, players have a lot more power than they did.

And the GMs are kind of just saying, "Hey, sorry, it's business, you gotta know move, but we're trying to get ready to you." And I don't-- - Give the third cutter, quick shout out there. 31 goals on the season, that's unbelievable.

- He's unbelievable. - He's unbelievable. - Right now, he needs a double barrel right now, he deserves it. - These no move claws, they're out there, but it's like, "Oh, he hasn't no move, I don't really care." - This is also Yans Army, like, he's gonna be hand in the reins over,

so he's able to look like the bad guy doing this. - Yeah. - I think he's essentially eating the bullet for Steener. - And if he has a new GM can have, like, a clean slate, you're rebuilding, this is on you now. But if Paraco, if Paraco, if he's one of those guys,

he's like, "Hey, listen, at the end of the day, "I just, I don't wanna live in Buffalo." I don't wanna live in where I've said, Carolina, or any place like he has that right, so.

“- Yeah, I think having that right, you should exercise.”

I did it in Florida, they wanted to, they wanted to trade me and I said, "No, I'm not, I'm not waving it." Like, we can wait this out. - Okay, I know that, so you were fine with knowing that they were trying to trade you, going back into the room,

'cause it's not the players trading you. It's not the coach, it's not the people you're around day to day.

- How did they handle it with you? Like, how was it delivered to you? - Well, it was a little messy if you remember.

It was like Zito's first year, he came in.

Obviously, he had a plan in Saturn. Obviously, it's worked out whatever he's done. And it was like, "Hey, listen, we wanna trade you." And I said, "I have a no move. "You're gonna have to wait it out."

And you can buy me out in the summertime,

“like, basically, and that's what happened.”

- You said, were you in the office when you said that, though? - Yeah, in his office, sitting there, yeah, me, him and Q. - Was it off work? - I can actually, yeah, you could, you could try to trade me. Anyone, I ain't going anywhere.

- Yeah, I could, yeah. - That's when they then said, "Okay, we're scratching you "and end in the street." And that's when Biz then said I'm gonna shit on Zito's windshield. - Yes, that was the story.

- I said I'd take a skydump on his car window over the overpass. - And then Rick Petino came in, remember? - Yeah, he came in with a tweet all the sudden. - Let's call it basketball coach defending

he can't go online. - Yeah, it's had you talk to your agent before going into that meeting, or did they just call you in and then hit you with it raw without reaching out to your agent? - No, he called, I think I was on the way.

It was during like pre-season. And I was on the way to the rank in, and he was like, dude, there's some crazy shit about to happen, and I was like, all right, and we kind of just dealt with it.

And it took like a couple, it might've been the COVID year, or something like it was a weird training camp anyways. I can't remember exactly, but it was kind of like, I wasn't even skating with the team. I was skating with like the black aces and shit,

and like, they're really trying to bully me out here. - Yeah, they tried to bully me, and I was like, I was like, that's not gonna happen. And then I used my, you know, the leverage I had for having a no more, but it was a little different.

I had a family, my kids were in school. I didn't want him to move, and you know, like you said, "Wed, I signed that contract there. "I expected to be here," and I was like, "Hey, listen,

“"you can buy me out in the summertime if that's what it is,”

"but I'm not waving my no more." - I do wonder if there is a time frame. Like, when does Puerto Rico have to answer them, right? Like, is it like, do you have four? - Well, did I like tomorrow at four?

- He tells him at four o'clock on today. It's like, "Yeah, yeah, sorry, I'm not gonna do that." - 'Cause Buffalo right now, they're sitting there, like, we need an answer, like, we wanna do something, which I love that the sabers are getting aggressive.

And Dragon mentions that Buffalo is looking at a D and a Ford.

All right, well, we got our D all hold on a second here.

- The second part, you kind of answer your own question with, like, yes, it's more about Buffalo being, like, well, this is what we're prepared to move off of to get this. Now we get that package, we got to bring it somewhere else and address that need if that's the case.

And going back to St. Louis in Parenk, we go like, the treatment of Truba and when he wasn't doing it, if you're a fan or an organization and that's the treatment, that's complete fucking bullshit.

That should not be happening. But if you are St. Louis and he says, no, I don't want to. He's still a very good defenseman and it's not like it's a horrible contract, either. - Right. - You end up keeping a measum go anywhere.

That to me is not the end of the world. Like, that is a guy that's like, okay, well, he's a leader. He's got unbelievable experience, Stanley Cup playoff. Just keep him, you eat it, and you don't get to get the future assets that you wanted,

but not the worst situation. - Then he sits down with steam in the summertime, like, they played together, right?

“And then maybe-- - I think his spot you're saying,”

right? - Yeah. - If you want to move him still. - Yeah. - 'Cause he could come back and say, hey, I'm open to moving, here's my two teams. Here's my five teams, but I don't want to go to Buffalo.

Now, the trade, if it does go down, Radam, Martyrka, I hope I'm saying that, right? But he's ninth overall pick, six, six defensemen. So it's like, all right, Buffalo's almost getting a guy that they think he'll be in five years for right now,

or maybe four years, three years, and a first round pick.

So for St. Louis, it's like, we're getting a younger peraco in our minds, we're getting another first rounder, and we're getting off a guy who's aging, and even though you said his contract isn't bad, but it's still, at this point in the blues organization,

it's like, okay, I'd rather restart with a very similar type player along with the draft pick. So I don't know, it's crazy, and it's just just interesting that now these trades get broken, like, they're official, and different tweets are written,

where people are like, oh, what a, what a get for Buffalo, and they're like, there's favors, fans are like, we got peraco, and then like, at the bar, the buddies, it's not done yet. Some guys like crippled in Buffalo,

once again, what do you mean, it's not done? - Elliot Freeman, I retweeted the clip, like he had to address it as well, because obviously he was reporting it too, where he basically broke down this whole situation,

and the fact that he's an actual insider, and he's got to kind of be the bad guy in all that. So difficult for really everybody at hand, and this, this no move, no trade, no trade list situation has really put people in a weird spot.

Now, one guy who did end up waving,

I'll throw it over to you to break it down, and we can go over it. - Yes, Mackenzie Weeger, he goes to Utah. Now, all we've been hearing is Utah, and they're aggressiveness, and the fan base out there,

it looks exciting, they got a good team, but they're looking to add. And Mackenzie Weeger, man, he is signed. Let me say the trade first. He went to Utah for Olimata,

forward prospect Jonathan Castagna, I hope I'm saying that correct, and 326 second round picks. Now, the second rounders were originally owned by Utah, the New York Rangers, and the Ottawa Senators.

Weeger agreed to wave the no trade. He's 32, he signed through 20, 30, 20, 30,

won, he's got a $6.25 million capit.

Keith, I know you played with weeks. This year's been kind of a tough goal for him now. It's Calgary, they've had a tough season. The year before that, he was excellent. - Of course. - For that year, 20 goals.

He's a big game player. What I've noticed a lot coming out of Calgary is like, they loved him, and it's not just the teammates, the reporters, and you don't see that that often where they're saying like this in this guy would sit down

and talk with us, if he was the worst player on the ice, he would address the media, he kind of faced us head on, and he's a guy that also is being given a lot of credit for getting the new arena going.

“I don't know if you remember that press conference he gave”

or he's like, "Yeah, we need a new rank." Now, if that, I don't think that's what put it over the finish line, but what do you think of the deal and is that something that's good for Utah and just getting a puck mover? - On the record, though, I loved playing at the style, though.

- Me too, I loved playing at the style, though. - Great style. - Yeah, I mean, I love playing with Wiggs, one of my favorite teammates of all time. The guy, you know, he's earned everything.

He's one of those guys. I don't even think he was drafted, or if he was, it was a late round pick, you know, he's one of those guys just loves to come to the rank every day. He's, you know, smiles, he brings good attitude, you know,

he's definitely gonna be a shining late night lockerum, but, you know, more importantly, on ice, like the guy's a stud, he can play power play,

he can play PK, he can play in the first minute of a period,

last minute of a period, but what I like most about him, he can play the left or the right side on the, on the, on the decor, and I remember in Florida, he was a guy who played with Eckblad, but he played his off side, and he was unbelievable at it.

And, you know, it's a tough thing to do is a demon, picking up rims on your backhand and the offensive zone, getting to the middle, but he was so good at it, worked at it all the time, and, you know, got him to where he is now signing that nice deal,

“and I think Utah is gonna be very, very happy with him,”

not only as a player, but as a person in the community, guy in the walk room, and I think it's a huge home run for Utah. - And, and for a guy who's pretty good offensively, like he does at all, like he'll block shots, he'll help kill penalties, and I think also for a group,

like Utah, like I know they got kills, they got small teeth, I don't think it would hurt them to have a little bit more leadership in that lock room. They don't have a lot of guys with playoff experience, and just really that veteran presence,

so I feel like it's a good foundational ad, and you get them for this extended period of time. I don't think the cap hits too aggressive, and I think they have solid goal-tending, and that really bolsters their back end,

and now I expect them to go moot and make a move for a guy up front, and to me, I think that that's, at least a wild card team. I think that that's a team that can,

for the first time at a long time, make playoffs.

They can really make a punch in established themselves in Utah after being there last year, having the great start and then fizzling off. I feel like there'll be a need there for some playoff hockey to really get the fans to hardcore interest in the state

of Utah. So, very cool, very happy to see that he now gets to go play for a better team, and not, I guess, not have his services go to waste, essentially. That's such a good point.

There's of getting the fans involved with playoff hockey, even if, you know, you hope it's more than one round, but to get playoff hockey for a new franchise is fucking huge. Just to get them a rally around the city, get guys to wanna be there and all that.

- And their second rounder is boys. Their second rounder is like, they have a stock pile of draft picks, yeah. Bill Armstrong has been selling off. They've been retaining all these salaries.

We joked about it with Dregger, about how you got, you know, they got that suit, pronger,

“Shay Weber, I think they got a carry prep.”

They got every fucking Hall of Fame or coming up on the on the... - Rancier. - Yeah, great. (laughing)

- Exactly, exactly. So, I think it's a good move and once again, not crazy on the books. - I like their D, like you got surrogach have say, like just list in the six, you got surrogach have now,

you got weaker there. John Marino really underrated player. Nate Schmidt, you saw what he can do in the playoffs. You got Ian Cole, he's getting older, but he's a warrior.

So it's like, you're adding a guy that just moves the puck and Olimata hit, he only played 22 games this year.

and you're not losing anything from the roster, right?

Like you're just adding there. And the draft picks are the draft picks party. You wanna get good, like enough with the draft picks, they've had plenty over the years. They do have some really nice prospects.

So I don't know what else they do because apparently they're not done, that's what everyone's saying. Like if every insider is like Utah, Utah, Utah, Utah, it's like, all right, well, they're cooking there.

Just what else can they do? - We got some breaking news. This is via Elliott Friedman officially. Colton Paraco has declined his wave to wave. He made his no great loss to go to Buffalo

as his contractual right. We will see where this goes from here. - Wow, good for him, good for him. - Good for him. - As asked, with Johnny Lazarus, Colby Cohen

and Army was on with them. They had him on. He's like, you think you'll wave and Patty literally sitting back and he goes no chance.

Like, he's like, why would he? He's a big part of the community. Wanna cup there, his girlfriends from there, and his girlfriend's family is like, pizza kings of St. Louis, too.

They own all the pizza shops. - Don't argue. - Eliol, Elios, the pizza king. - Yeah, yeah, but he's Boston. He's Boston.

- Always in Boston, eh? - Yeah, Eliol. - Oh fuck, I thought he lived in St. Louis. - No, no, no, he just rode the blues for a couple years. Wow, man, this hits Buffalo hard.

- Yeah, I honestly think if I'm a Buffalo fan, I don't think you can take this out on him. I think it's one of the things he's exercising his right to do that. It's nothing against your team.

Your team's in a great spot right now. It's honestly, it's a business decision at the end of the day. He doesn't wanna, I'm sure he's had a host there for every he doesn't wanna sell a host. He probably stays there in the summer who knows.

This guy, you don't know what's going on in these guys head of the behind the scenes stuff. - I kind of don't mind that it broke after Reed already talked about it because I get our organic feelings as before,

but it actually goes down, but wow, this is wild.

“But here's the thing though, for Buffalo,”

I'm not, for the fans, especially I'm not overly rattled because I don't feel like it's an area that they can't go address. And they probably maybe don't have to give up as much now to go address that.

'Cause like based on their D right now, like he's probably slots in as your number four there, right? So now tell you a little for sure. - He's playing big minutes there if he ended up there. He's not gonna be playing big minutes there anymore.

- Now you hope that kid that they were gonna trade, it turns out the six, six D-mails. - Well it's like now it's like they're dangling him for something else maybe, although with the term on Paraco and his size, you know, I don't think they're willing

to move him if it's less your defenseman. But when you hear all of our actman Larsson with Detroit and Boston, like that party, they got Dali in there, all of a sudden you bring in another big suite of one to stand, like up,

maybe that's the guy that they're now in the mix for. - I feel like it's a miss though that they didn't get Tyler Myers, like Dallas. - That's one that they're probably rattled about now. - So much cheaper.

- I was shocked to see how cheap he was compared to what Paraco would have cost. - rookie in the year. - The year in Buffalo years ago. - He's making absolutely peanuts.

I might be making 2 million bucks moving forward.

“Maybe a million and a half, I believe next year”

he's on the books for. So, he just didn't believe that. - Vancouver dealt Myers to Dallas. It was a second round picking 27 and a fourth round or a 2029, and Vancouver's eating 50%,

which is 3 million, right? So, that's through next season as well. And Dallas boys, they've won 10 games in a row, and they are like, "Well, the fact that Minnesota and Dallas are gonna be playing in the first round,

it's just wild that one of those teams are going home." So, it's like, "What else are they gonna do?" Now, you got the obviously we talked about Sagan's money's off, right? So, you got to figure that they're not done.

The end Minnesota, they go out and they get Macaron, all right? So, that's a guy who, I think people were a little surprised and biz, we go into a drag or the return for him. But Billy Garen's like, "I don't care.

Obviously the return at this point is like, "I want certain people in here needs that we have. They are smaller I would say, "and they get a big giant guy. "Now, he's a fourth line player,

"but if he can make a difference, "it's like, I don't think that they worry about what they had "to give back to Nashville." - Yeah, so a couple of things. He doesn't make much.

I want to say he makes a million and a half,

and the reason I know that number is 'cause that's where they were trying to keep he for sure would under when they ended up trading him off

“to Vancouver, or I believe they just didn't sign him.”

And wouldn't, wouldn't figure that out 'cause they viewed him such a big piece of their group. Now, everybody will show you his underlying numbers and being like, you're giving up that much for this guy. Like, nobody really even talks about him anymore.

But sometimes when you play on a team

your numbers aren't going to look that shiny, especially as a fourth line repair man who's killing penalties and not putting up many points. So, when he moves to a better team, and now that he is, I see him being way more of a factor

and way more of a presence than he was on Nashville. So, I guess I could understand the value in which he gave up, and it's clear that Billy G and his staff have scouted him. They probably love him as a lock-room guy and a guy who could just quickly fit in there

and then patch that hole up, if in fact, they're not able to go get trodcheck as we know that they are. So, it's kind of that safety valve. I think we could all agree though. I don't think that you can go deep and do that much damage

with just Eric Sinak, Hartman, and McCarran as your three-center man.

“- I think Billy G too, you see it at the Olympics,”

like how much he values guys that can kill penalties when face off McCarran's 52% I think in the face off circle, a big body. So, maybe it's a guy like you bring him in. It's like, listen, this is your role.

Do not worry about getting any points. You're gonna kill penalties. You're gonna run guys through the end wall and play some tough minutes down the stretch. And, you know, like you said, like if they have to play Minnesota

first, first, sorry, Dallas first, first round. It's like, listen, we're building this to beat this team first round just to try to get by. So, you gotta have big bodies playing against all those teams out west. So, I like the trade, yeah, second rounder is the second rounder,

but to bring in a big body, a guy that's physical that no one likes playing against, I think it definitely helps you out. - I would like to know how many years McCarran has left or is he in the last year of his deal.

He's making, and I believe he's making only a million

and a half and less he's re-opted.

“- Mike McCarran is in the final year of a two-year contract”

where his cap hit is $900,000. - Okay, so he's under a million, wow. - Jesus. - So, keep for sure would ended up getting a million and a half in Vancouver and they weren't willing to go more than McCarran

to keep him in Nashville. What's as crazy and if you guys want to hop it about one, it's sure we're gonna give you any of his money that he just signed. - Buddy, he deserves all the five.

Buddy, he deserves all the praise that he got in Vancouver. He's physical, he four checks like a bad man. He could probably get you 20 to 25 goals and now he goes over to San Jose. There was rumblings that they were not aligned on the money

and the term and that they were potentially gonna remove him before the deadline. Sometimes that is used as a little bit of a threat and then obviously they end up walking in him at,

at what was it, five years, just $106 million?

- Five, seven, five a year for five years, dude. - Fucking hell, man. - God wasn't drafted, like, the way he's gone about his career and coming in and grinding it out in the AHL and playing physical down there and being like, just give me a chance on the fourth line,

gets his chance, the NIHL is running around, leading the league in hits and he starts scoring a little bit. It's like, nothing was handed to him and you get your chance to get a big payday like, Buddy, imagine telling him fucking nine years ago,

you're gonna sign a deal just under 30 million in the NIHL. Like that is a story that, as a former player, you just love seeing that. - Yeah, that's true. - So happy for that guy, I don't even know him.

So yeah, that's a great deal. Now Dallas bringing in Myers, I love that move. We mentioned that one quick, just a big defenseman, right? Like that, that decor, that's gonna be hard for Minnesota to play against, right?

Like, you know, boldies a big guy, but if Hartman's still there and Capri's still there and Zuko Rhello, you get some big demon, you get that visual, he's a monster, you got Myers, Esselandelle's really hard to play against,

then Heskins, the water bug, they can play 30 minutes, but he's not like that, they're building,

“I think you're right, Keith, you have to look at it”

like for those two teams, like,

we just gotta get out of the first round.

So we're almost making deals to beat Dallas, or beat Minnesota, vice versa, and then we're just assuming, are we just assuming Colorado's winning that division? - Why did I, I am, let's see right now, that the Tyler Myers deal kind of reminds me of the

mecha with deal, like a long body gets in, like, big disruptor guy that, you know, he's been around forever, he's played, played a lot of games in this league, he knows what it takes, like, I, I'd love that trade for them,

like he's a minute eater and he's gonna play tough minutes, take away a little bit for, for Heskin and, and, like, if you can bring in a guy who's, what's he, six, six, seven to play, yeah. - I mean, so this, Colorado has a six point lead on Dallas

and a nine point lead on Minnesota, they got a game in hand on Dallas, two on Minnesota, six points with a game in hand with 20 left, like, I, I think Colorado gets at the division. It's not over yet, but that's kind of what I'm looking at.

- Yeah, that's not, that's 0.0, just lock in Dallas for winning the central guys. And, and we can go out, before we get to the news that kind of broke what we were talking to, Greg about Nicholas, wah, going over to Colorado.

I, I got to bring up Edmonton. So Edmonton makes a deal, right? They, they trade for Connor Murphy. I really like that trade, okay? They then trade for Jason Dickinson and Colton Dock.

Now, the return, which I tweeted originally,

we traded a first rounder for Jake.

“Jason Dickinson is this what I'm reading, is this correct?”

It hadn't been announced it was Colton Dock yet, not that that's like a game-changing name. We're all of a sudden, okay, I get the first rounder. I got a call from Stoff in seven seconds. And Stoff and I talked, and he explained it to me

a little bit more. Now, the one tweet that's gone pretty viral. Let me pull this one up his standbowlman, and the oilers this season. He's traded away a 27 first, a 27 third, a 28 second,

a 29 second, Stewart Skinner, Brett Koolock, and Andrew Manjeeopani, he's added Spencer Stasney, Tristan Jari Samuel Poole and Connor Murphy, Jake, Jason Dickinson, Colton Dock. That is probably something that doesn't look great, right?

It's not right there. It's like, okay, if I'm going to list the mistakes,

the order is the Skinner trade first,

and the second is the signing of Manjeeopani. This trade is not about a first rounder for Dickinson and Colton Dock. The first rounder is to get rid of Manjeeopani, okay? That is the ultimate, like, that signing did not work.

He's five, what? Nine, he's playing on the fourth line. They just did this with Ardvitsen. Yeah, no, and there's going to come up here. They brought it.

But I'll say this dude, like, the oilers looking at them, it's like, they need a third line center, they need a big right shot defense with. They got both, they got both. And they're both solid.

And Dickinson's offense isn't there. But dude, you look at Pasha style under the hood numbers. He plays against elite competition. I think it's like McDavid and Leon around 38% of their shifts are against the number one lines, the number one D pair.

It's 50, 55% of the time for Dickinson. And he has nice numbers on a dog shit team. So you're getting in a guy, and there's also a clip

“if you want to check it out of, who is he fighting in that clip?”

He's fighting Barclay Goodrow on San Jose. The Dickinson's tough, too. So now you have a third line check in center. So you look at that team. It's McDavid at number one C, McDavid number two,

Dickinson number three. I like that. All right, then you got Henryk, maybe centering the fourth line. And then, all right, if nurses playing well, Bouchard's Norse trifes style season, you got Echoem.

Then you got Connor Murphy. It's like, I like the moves, the first rounder, and how it looks and how it looked to me right away. Oh my God, you're like, are you kidding me? What the hell is the first round pick matter at this point?

They got, it doesn't matter. Like, it's win now, it's win now or forever. What is the prayer? Forever hold your piece, forever say goodbye to Connor. You got to win now, you got to party.

There's been mismanagement.

“The Manjipani signing sucked, the trade of Skinner,”

which was basically, it was almost like a bully job by the entire fan base. I get it, but now you're like, holy fuck, this didn't work. We got, we got a goalie who's the exact same

if not worse since he's come over, making double the money. Like, not ideal. I don't know, can they go out and get a goalie? I have no idea if they can. I don't think they're done.

I hope they're not done, but they, they added. I don't know about you, but my issue isn't the roster. It's the juge you're going in the playoffs after here and that specter has blocked Ryan Whitney on Twitter. This fucking fan base in this media group

is in shambles right now going into the deadline. Let me tell you something, if you've made a career out of, and hey, all reporters out there, it is not an easy job to ask questions. Hard questions have to be asked, no doubt.

I would never question that.

There is a way to ask hard questions. Buddy, we all answered them. I answered them repeatedly in Edmonton. There is a way to ask hard questions without being a prick. Mark Specter asks questions in a certain way

in an exact tone that comes off as I'm a prick. Okay, I'm trying to rattle you. I want to annoy you. I'm asking you a question that I have to ask. I get it, but I seem to enjoy asking you this question.

Okay, if you're going to be that guy, hey, no problem, buddy, that guy's done it forever. If you're there again, then you're going to go to Twitter and block and let me tell you something, guys. Since I went to Specter, Twitter, everyone reads spec.

The amount of people I'm going to say thousands

because you go through the men's. He's blocked everyone. If you question spec, everyone reads spec, you're blocked. Now, if you're going to be a guy who's asking questions in the tone that you ask questions,

you cannot be blocking people on Twitter, boys. That is the most hypocritical thing I've ever seen. You cannot block people who sometimes I block people, but I just put them on a timeout. Like I did that Alex Jones guy

from the Buffalo Saber Sand fan base. And when I saw you, your hashtag leader tweet where when you were playing there in Edmonton, when people would chirp you, get a little bit sensitive and block them at that time.

So I blocked while playing. I saw that tweet. That's fair. And I went and unblocked Alex Jones.

So I might actually even go through my full block list.

Like I was doing when I played, kind of like you with an unblocked just everyone in order to give everyone a clean slate. But I have not been blocked by spec. I begged him via DM to come on the podcast.

Now, he hasn't answered me in 24 hours. And I would even go as far as saying this.

“I think that the players of the Edmonton or other”

in order to get the jujube back on, they need to go on a spec strike. A spit and check with spec strike, where if he's not going to come on the podcast and answer some hard questions that we have for him,

the players need to stop answering his. They need to say, Mark, respect what you've done your whole career. Sank, I'm not answering questions till you go on the spit and check with podcast.

So I ask all of the Edmonton Oilers

if you could do that on our behalf.

Do you think that they would do that with? Do you think that you could pass the message with that? But what I would pay the amount of money and the enjoyment I would get if he's going at Leon and just asking a question in a way

where if you were allowed in this world to just straight up sucker punch a reporter, the players would, if one of them could ever say, listen, spec, I've looked into this and you've blocked. Countless, countless Edmonton Oilers fans

who question how you ask questions and how rude you can be while asking the question, so I'm going to do this, you're blocked. And just for if they could verbally block him back, that'd be a story line for me that would,

it would make this entire career I've chosen after playing, just seems so worth it. If I could get quantumic David to say, listen, spec, you're blocked.

“I think I might retire, that could be it for me.”

Now these guys, they're professionals. I don't think we're going to see this happen, but you could not ask questions and look, look for a way to make a player so upset, while also answering your question

and then block people who question you on Twitter. That does not seem to be like, who Mark Spector is as a reporter, right? You got to live with how you ask questions. - Yeah, is he the guy who asks the questions

where everyone gives like the look, like, yeah, so he's the one behind all the, you can't be blocking people if you're the guy asking these questions and the story, he's got to reveal his block list,

where is that public on? - Well, you can't see it, it's part of his. Now, as, listen, I'm not innocent either, and I have a little bit of a soft spot for him, because I've asked some pretty stupid questions

from time to time, too, even on YouTube. - Stupid, different than, stupid, different than, looking to piss off, it's not gonna seem. - Well, I asked Larkin about his contract to go shooting while he was going through it

when he was in Detroit right before a game. Now, I would like to take, I would like to... - That's one hour. - I would like to take credit in the fact that I got that over the finish line,

I still have yet to see any percentage of Larkin's deal, and the fact that that got done shortly after I did ask that and push it over the finish line, but I digress, spec, you better come on, spit and check let's buddy,

'cause you got some questions to answer. - And it's back, join us, we have to be as one as this playoff goes, now mind you, Tuesday night, the oilers, they go down four, two to auto light. It's like, are you kidding me?

“They're gonna lose, I think it would have been,”

they're six to seventh game and three or four in a row at home, it's like, what is going on? And I treat it out, oh, oilers got to get five goals minimum again to win a hockey game. And I think, now I'm blocked,

so I didn't see it, so you can, everybody reached back, except for me, he tweet out the exact same thing, so we are almost as we are one, but we are not one. You understand what I'm saying here? - Wait, did he have to copy your tweet?

- No. - No, it's just great minds think alike. And the love triangle right now between spec and staff. And now are you allowed to divulge a little bit of the conversation that you had with staff?

Like, where does he sit, is he still as confident as he was that they're gonna win a Stanley Cup with Connor McDavid and Leandry. So are they gonna figure this out? Are they gonna write the ship with?

- And what did staff think about spec, a blocking?

'cause I know staff knows spec, I'm not gonna stick people

in the middle of that.

“- Okay, that's a common battle, that's a common battle.”

- I'm not looking, now granted, did I send out a tweet calling him? It's, it's by the way, it's Sharman's back. It's Sharman's off spec, so it's Sharman's back. If even if a player could say,

hey, Sharman's back, what's going on? What do you got for me today? That would make my day, but listen, staffs is confident as ever. I think, like I said, they got three centers,

I like their D, can they play better defensive hockey? Can they play more mature hockey as a team? Can they figure out, there's just certain plays and mistakes you can't make? Like, buddy, they're gonna be top three in the Pacific,

'cause it's one of the worst divisions we've ever seen. Like I said, Anna Hi-Fant.

You're saying we're gonna wax this,

Anna Hi-Fant's, I'm sorry, you guys are at the beginning. I actually picked you when I stopped standing the cup before the devil's, I like Anna. I like watching, we're gonna wax you. That's a, that is a wit guarantee.

Will this end up being used on cold boards and end up looking, making me look stupid, possibly? That's happened many times, it will again. We're gonna wax them and we can take care of Vegas. And then all of a sudden we're conference final.

So I believe, I truly believe. Can they do they get a goal, I don't know. - The spec strikes gonna just get these guys to loosen up their grip a little bit.

“Like I bet, you know, knowing you have to answer”

spec's question, they grip in their sticks a little bit tighter. With the spec strike, you're gonna see these oilers go on a fucking heater. - Charmets back, Charmets back, is there any potential fine breaking news, we got broken news?

- Frank Sarah Valley saying, I'm told right now St. Louis Blues, Carl Colton Paraco is still open to a trade to a different destination in America. - Now Buffalo fans can hate him. - Oh wow, but not Buffalo and outcome,

not all that different from Tyler Myers with Detroit. That was the tweet from Frank Sarah Valley. - Anyway, how it was reported that Detroit was reported that Detroit was gonna get Tyler Myers and it didn't, but that wasn't because he had a no move, right?

- Not sure that's true in Frank's tweet. - TV wise, just like this. - Oh yeah, he's just looking at his chops. - Wow. - The last question I had and then we'll move on

from spec, even though I'm obsessed with the storyline now. It's all I wanna talk about. Is there, if they deny his questions, is there any type of fine implication, can they deal with any bullshit from the league?

- I'll pay it. - I'll pay it. - I don't think there's, I think you, like reporters have to be allowed in the room. That is a league thing, but if nobody will say anything to you,

what if they go like this, they go, you know what, spec, pinkies up, buddy, pinkies up. I'm not gonna free pink with me for every guy. - I don't know if that's gonna move the needle for you. - I don't think, I don't think it.

- I don't think Connor drinks. - Yeah, I don't, I don't have any friends on the other. I don't, I only know new Japanese bokeh to him in 10 years. So I don't, I don't think we're gonna get a pinkies up in Sharman's spec's face, but that would be a store line.

I don't know if they necessarily want the smoke in the noise of, like, you wouldn't sit in the corner of friend. - I've met Connor on the Boston San Jose, what was he with us for 20 minutes? Like, I don't think that Connor McDavid considers me a friend.

I think he knows that I'm basically the one,

actually, I shouldn't say the one guy considering everyone says this, but the man that has spoken about the enjoyment I get in watching him play hockey is like nothing I've ever seen.

“That's why I really hopped on back to the others”

'cause getting to watch him play hockey is a treat in itself. But am I gonna expect him to give a strike to Sharman's spec because of me? No, I won't. I won't.

I think that'd be a little ridiculous. - Can you prop? Can you promise whoever goes on the Sharman's spec's strike that they can be in the next pinkies up commercial at least? - Hunter percent, take it, okay.

- All right, buddy, we got to dangle a carry. - We gotta buy him a set of golf clubs out of it. Whatever they want, whatever they want, whatever they want. - We kind of maybe didn't dive into what stuff devolged. Did he devolge anything to you that gave you more hope?

- Just speaking to stuff gives me hope. And I'm not talking just about the others. I'm talking about life and death. - Life, okay. - So you want to know a man who is loved and respected

by the Edmonton and all this community? That's Bob Stoffin. Read the comments, read the comments under my tweet. So many stuff mentioned, stuff's the one man we love, the one man we believe, the one man who gives us hope.

And stuff knows Pock, okay. And he asked me to take in Colton Doc, can run around and he could throw his body around, plan the fourth line, be a big impact player that Jason Dickinson could play against any team's top line

and shut them down that Connor Murphy can be hell of a player on the P.K. and be physical and be respected in the locker room and that the team's defense can turn it all around and that we can raise Lord Stanley this year.

So laugh all you want, everyone. We got Connor, we've been on dry title.

Do we have a goalie right now? That's the goalie. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to fucking run and jump on the caboose the last one and nobody's going to know on there. I'm getting free fair. I'm jumping on.

“But that's what happened with the blue jays, but and that no.”

That's our, but it's our only chance to bring back the Stanley cup to Canada. I have to hurry up, hurry up. Buddy, come on, not right now. Our legitimate shot this year and if they don't, let's say they fizzle off, they meet Colorado

in the conference finals and they get beat. Do you think that Stoff should be handed the reins as General Manager of the Edmonton others? Stoff could easily be a GM. I'm not even kidding either.

Not kidding. If Martin St. Louis, yes, he's a whole fan player, can coach fucking 13 you triple a hockey and hop into the Montreal Canadians locker room and just dominate as a coach over the past few seasons, the Bob Starfic of B.H.G.M.

And I speak for every oiler's fan who's listening. And hearing you say, I'm hopping on the bandwagon of the Edmonton others and going, no, it's time for Darren Dragon. We're joined now by T.S. and inside of it doing this a long time Darren Drecker Drex, what's going on, buddy?

It is Thursday 1147 Eastern. We might actually have a Friday crazy deadline for the

first time in a long time, huh?

Yeah, I think that's right. And there's been some chirping on social media, which isn't unusual as you guys can appreciate and live through, but many general managers going into the week described it as a buyer's market. And the definition of a

buyer's market is the flood of players, the number of players that are actually in play. So maybe you don't jump at the first second, even the third opportunity if you're in that buying mode, you know, you sit tight, you make sure that you've got a full understanding of what the market is all about.

And that's the way it is. It is frustrating for the sellers Trust me, you know, there are a number of teams that would really love to get involved and start moving on some pieces and some bigger pieces as you guys have read and we've speculated on, but that's where we're at, but there's there's

plenty of time. There's a lot that can get done on Friday. No offense to Maccarin, but in a buyer's market, you would assume

“that maybe he wouldn't go for a second round or so. I think a lot of”

people might have been thrown off by that. So I guess to throw it back at you, what do you make of that and could that raise the level of for the price of everything else? Yeah, so that's interesting because that was my reaction to it as well. But then as I poked around a little bit, you know, just again, trying to

establish, all right, well, is that now the benchmark for what that, what what that sort of package is going to be? And if you're a player that's better than Maccarin with all due respect, are you talking about first round draft picks now being part of the equation? And some of the message I got back from other clubs was Maccarin has improved his

game to a point where they're like, you know, it's high, but it's not outlandish. It's not outrageously high. And, you know, I mean, obviously, the Minnesota wild felt like they had the need for that level of present size of player, the game that he brings and they they pulled the trigger, but you know, not that I mean, it compared him to to Vinny

Trochek. That's not us a fair comparison. But now I'm reading, you know, some of the speculation that Minnesota could be out on on Trochek. So you

always look for a plan C, a plan D, and then you get into plan B, and then

“there's plan A. So that's what the gun slingers like Billy Garin are all about at”

this time of the year. Now, a lot of these, a lot of these deals that we're hearing about more seem like summertime deals with that Robbie Thomas is even, you know, the peracos, the Vinny Trochek's like, why this year do you think that there's more of the big dogs on the chopping block? Right. Well, I mean, if you look at New York, we all know where the New York

Rangers are and they're headed. We don't need another letter to tell us the direction that this team is going in. So, you know, that that makes sense. St. Louis isn't dissimilar, right? I mean, the St. Louis Blues are absolutely in a rebuild mode. I'll tell you what, fellas, as much as you're right, you know, you look at Robert Thomas, he tried to do the math on this,

try and make sense of it. This kid is in year three, even eight year contract extension, you know, why would the blues be doing this? Well, I don't get it. I'm strong. He's sport-fishing. That's what he's doing. You know, I mean, the deal that was on the table for the Buffalo Sabers

included two top prospects, a first-ground draft pick, and I believe Josh Norris was the other

who, you know, knock on wood, you know, that kid needs to stay healthy, but we

“weaken ourselves up the middle of the ice with all the respect to Robert Thomas,”

who's, you know, real rock solid two C. So, unless Army gets what he wants and needs in his demanding year-right hands, I think that drifts into the summer, but keep an eye fellows on the Utah team. You know, they made an ice add by bringing in Mackenzie, Wiggar Billy Armstrong is in Don yet. And when you look at the prospect pool and the pieces that the mammoth have that they could potentially part with, I mean, they're not loading and

filling the pockets of dug Armstrong in St. Louis. That's, that's not what Utah is all about, but they can bring a bring in a piece like Robbie Thomas, they're going to do everything between now and the three Eastern deadline to try and get that done, because the market will open up lighter in the summer for Robert Thomas, and a team like Utah doesn't want that. But don't,

“don't you run the risk of pissing these guys off, right? So, I mean, eventually you have to trade”

them, right? If a guy like Robert Thomas's name's getting thrown around that you have to do it, whether it's right now or in the summer time. Agreed. And you guys are players and the game has changed, you know, since you guys stepped off the ice. In, in that respect, the business side of the game is more cut throat now than it's ever been. And you will get hockey operations people that say, now, we care about the players. Of course, they care about the players, but if they can figure

out a way to make their team better by utilizing that piece, regardless of the trade protection,

doesn't matter. You know, I always say, I feel bad this time of year, because I don't like

identifying players in trade speculation. And so, you know, look, I mean, Colton Paraco continues to consider his option. Now, does he stay in St. Louis? Is there something else that comes along? Does he wave to go to Buffalo? Based on the deal that's on the table for a prospect in a first and something else? Well, that's up to the player. But the player probably wasn't part of that process until it becomes, you know, becomes public. I'm the guy that makes it public. You know,

so you're sitting there going, all right. Well, you know, that's my business. And I guess I can appreciate the business side from the club's perspective too. But there's a human element to this, that you guys can appreciate more than me. And that's, that's where things have changed over time. You mentioned a drastic ask for Robert Thomas from St. Louis was on power, ever a name that was also thrown in there as opposed to Norris. Uh, not to my knowledge biz, not to my

knowledge. But that's not to say again, you know, when I tweeted the other day that things were heating up between the sabers and and the say it was blues with Robbie Thomas being the principal piece, I had a pretty good feel and understanding what that package looked like. But that was maybe where they were getting towards the end of closing on it. You know, how do you know what was included initially that, you know, kind of sparked that sort of back and forth in the negotiations that took place.

It could have been because I'll tell you this, you know, the one thing that that I wonder about that maybe shoots that down is Yarmel Kick a line in has been in the market for a forward

and a defenseman basically since the moment he took over his general manager of the sabers.

So he used Owen Power as a part of the bigger package, potentially if you're getting both peraco and Robbie, that that would make sense to me. But that's just speculating based on on your question. I did not hear Owen Power's name involved at any point as I was following this. I mentioned last episode we had that with Florida gone, this is Carolina's year. Like it has to be. And I don't know what you've heard. I've mentioned like cadre on that team, like thinking of

cadre against Tampa Bay in the playoffs, like they need some bite. Now, is it true Calgary has no interest in eating any of that deal? At the moment, that's the way it stands. Yeah, and okay. So here's a bit more inside information. And I'm fairly certain, so it isn't speculation.

“I think that there were scenarios that were more or less presented to Calgary and Carolina might have”

been one of them. He has some level of trade protection. He doesn't have the full no move, right? And I did hear that Carolina might have been one of those teams on his no fly, so. And you know, maybe he would prefer to stay in the West. I mean, the Colorado angle has been there for a long, long time. I know Colorado has interest, but to your point with, I mean, Colorado, Montreal, pretty much any team is looking at the Calgary flames and going, okay, you got to take a piece back.

Some would argue that, you know, two a degree it already has. So we'll see how it plays out.

But I'll tell you, Calgary is interesting for a lot of different reasons. I thought they did okay with the the wager trade to Utah. Blake almost got a ton of interest yet. It's like 46 he gets dealt and sack white cloud. And you guys know this, you know, he's tremendous teammate. And he's a hell of a mentor for the young D that the Calgary flames have and they're going to have moving forward. So Craig Conroy is sitting there going, yeah, I got 20 teams that want to crack.

It's like, was that white cloud? Okay, blow me away. Because otherwise, I'm not doing it. I don't have any reason to do it at this. We've got to, you had to keep some players, right? And the last, just to touch on that about the not wanting to retain if cadre does get moved. Every team gets three, yes, three, three bullet spacey where the hand retain salary. How many has Calgary already used? Because I don't believe they retain anything on wager, correct? No, no,

I'd have to look back at that. I mean, it's all throughout my head here. I don't know. And I don't know that this is also an issue with, with ownership. I think the owner Murray Edwards, I mean, every NHL owner is heavily involved. He's involved, like he's deeply in on these, these trades. And it's not necessarily about the money. It's more about being sensitive, especially in a Canadian market and you're, you know, you're building a new building and there's a lot of positive

stuff. You know, can you roll out a team next year that really isn't going to be competitive? And the answer to that is no, you can't. So, you know, Edwards is sitting there going, well, I like NAS, why are we trying to trade a player? That's under contract.

“But I like anybody, but everybody knows that in order to get good again, you have to go to the bottom.”

Agreed. Because it's, it's, it's just. Calgary's never had high pay. It's crazy.

And I just look, Dregs, it's busy. So they're retaining on Mark Schumman, they're retaining on Rasmus Anderson. So they go, there you go. One more bullet. That's dangerous in terms of like not wanting to give the final one out. Yeah, Dregs. I talked about this earlier on this episode. The lead deciding to get rid of double retention. It sucks. It sucks for fans. Yeah. Can, can you explain the reason behind that? Because that's, that's really what making trades

is making trades so difficult at this point. It is. And I, I guess the national hockey that just felt like there was too much shenanigans going on behind the scenes. But that doesn't necessarily compute, would be either. I mean, isn't that what central registry? You know, the heart beat of the national hockey that you use all about? I mean, if a trade doesn't pass the sniff test, then it gets vetoed. It's pretty, why do we care if, if, if, if teams are retaining here

and then you're shipping that piece off. And there's another piece that's, I, it's one of the many things that frustrates me as old school as a national hockey that continues to be. We see all the

“stuff that goes on in the, the NFL in the NBA that drives the buzz around. The traffic, right?”

And, you know, if you've got aggressive general managers with supportive owners, you know, I automatically think of Kelly McCrement in the Vegas Golden Knights. Oh, yeah. They're in it to win at every damn year, every single year. And, and again, this year, that's because you'll bill fully the owner when he first, you know, got into the national hockey. They said, I want to win the Stanley Cup, but I want to do it multiple times before I'm done. I think he said he wanted

to do it in the first five years and then they hit it right at the fire. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, if you've got supportive ownership and you've got an aggressive and smart hockey operator, operations group, that's good for business for me across the board. I don't mind what they did, you know, with the injury cap and the cap and the playoffs. Because again, I'm one of those

that always push back. You think you're cuter off and the time that he was off and then he

comes off back magically. Mark Stone and Vegas and and all of those things. But I do think that it does create a more balanced environment in the playoffs to make those smart hockey men use those smarts and make sure that you're managing your roster in a efficient way. But the double retention

“and why that was taken out. I still want to have a sound. I think they took it out because the”

coyotes are gone now. They were the kings of the Elliott Nation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to be too pronger. Yeah. Everyone. Gary Price, everybody was doing that. That's right. Yeah. That's great. I'm going to beat the wheels off the Robert Thomas stuff. But I want to commend the eyes or plan and how patient it's been. But I feel like that's the type of player that could put them over the edge, especially in the east with it being wide open. And you also look at a

he wants to go win and they're going to be in the midst of a rebuild. They have two unbelievable goalie prospects and they also have been floating the idea of Casper moving and or do you maybe throw over if it's not Casper, maybe a guy like Fini like to to lock in and have Robert Thomas

and Dylan Lark and making under nine million as your one two center to me that for a extended period

of time here. To me, that's the move right now. Is there been any tires being kicked on that? Well, I'm sure they're out. I mean, there wouldn't be a general manager in a position like guys who've been where you're still part of an up and coming group that isn't making a call like that. I mean, you're talking about 26 year old guy here, right? Like, and when you're getting players like that on a long term contract is no messing around. You've got him locked in

“for the next five years. I mean, it's virtually an old brand. The only thing best that I push”

back at and this mess is doing that I've gotten consistently out of Detroit over the last couple of months anyway is that they're very mindful of where they're at and they don't want to blow young assets because they don't feel that they're quite ready. Now, I'm talking about, you know, they're not going to do that on rental players, you know, they missed out on Tyler Myers, they're going to land a right shot. Do you know, is it just in folk? Is it some, like,

there's no doubt, Isaacman. He's going to bolster his balloon. But what you're saying is is bang on. So I'm confident in saying, I get yes, for sure. But go back to the ask again. Like the pieces that Buffalo was willing to give up, I've already described. They're significant. I look, I heard with Utah, they want to Utah's three best prospects. They being saying Lewis. So but as you guys also mentioned earlier, leverage can change a little bit and you do as a club,

risk piss it off the player. Like do you think Robert Thomas enjoys being dragged through this process? No chance. Like he'd no chance. So, you know, what does that look like if the deal doesn't get done? Wherever it is, the deal doesn't get done. They Robby Thomas is going to be happy for the remainder of this regular season and going into it. And I would extend that to to category and to some of these other guys as well. So I'd be very surprised. The advisement was an in there,

especially because a piece like Thomas would fit their, their move as they try and get better. But the assets are tremendous. Maybe he's not willing to do that. Guys, we got a little breaking news here. The Toronto Maple Leafs have traded Nicholas Roy to the Colorado

Avalanche for a 2027 conditional first round pick in a 2026 conditional fifth round pick.

So he got a car revoter and boys, we talked about the market. He set the market there and got a cup experience. You got size and then he has to play fourth line center. So with Nelson already in Colorado, you could put her for pottery stuff to bed. I think it could call it, I don't know. 100%. Yeah. And that's interesting. I mean, frankly, I just got a text at the same time or now it's like a first to the fifth. No, we beat you. Yeah. So that's, I think that's tremendous

value for Nicholas Roy. Yeah. Come on. And I do know, you know, Brad Trillard was taking a few punches based on on the return that Edmonton got as part of the Montgiopani, Jason Dickinson, that trade where a first round pick was included and all that. Well, you don't think that Trillard

“was in the conversation with Stan Ballman of Horsey was, right? Here's the thing. Edmonton had Jason”

Dickinson higher on their list than what? Okay. That's a hockey decision. All the other pieces come into play. Right? I mean, that's, that's the bragative in the view of of Stan Ballman. That's fine. And now that we see Nick Roy going to Colorado, wow, I mean, he's, he's younger and he fits the need. I mean, Cadbury would have been their number three because of the year that Brock Nelson is having. So, and this is, this is what is going to frustrate Craig Conrad. We're messing around.

We're messing around here. You know, Colorado has been consistently interested in cadre. Montreal consistent, but as we talked about earlier, okay, we're not willing to retain on that. Okay. Well, there's, there's one more big piece that Craig Conrad, he doesn't have to work with in the Colorado avalanche. So yeah, where you're saying, like, I, I'm trying to tell the owner here, like, almost let me do my job. Like, retention is part of us. I mean, the list, the number of

draft picks Calgary has this summer moving forward is incredible. Like, you're rebuilding. Let us

“retend a little. We're going to get even more back. Boys, here's a crazy one. I think I think”

cadre might end up in Vegas if William Carlson's not coming back. That's, we always, they always

they're always in. Yeah, they've got hurt all that one year. I was like, what the, it was a

three old three p, p, p, p, p, p, m, but yeah. So like two trades ago now, because they just acquired nicked out, um, and then it was cool Smith prior to both those deals, an excellent Vegas source said to me, nah, you know, we're going to be quiet. I don't think we're going to do a whole lot of like, oh, yeah, here's Pinocchio. I want to commend Nashville and what they did from the start to get back in the mix, but we had this discussion about like, what do you do? And Stampcoes' name

is so interesting to me. Like, the year he's had, yeah, I also wondered about Ryan O'Reilly. Now, I want to ask your opinion because I don't, it's been said before by trucks like Ryan O'Reilly doesn't have a no movement, but I'm treating it as he does. It'll be up to him. The side I don't get is like,

man, if you're trying to rebuild and get this thing going again, like, what, I get the respect

for him, but why have it? Like, you got to make hard decisions here, and you could almost like, say, sorry, Ryan, I know you don't want to go anywhere, but like, we're trying to get this

“thing going again. Like, what do you think about those names and, and going on in Nashville?”

Yeah, on Stampcoes, too, right? And the issue that I have and we in the media have continued to pound away at that possibility. I mean, our O'Reilly's name's been out there for several weeks now, and there's a high level of respect. Barry Trots has an, and Ryan O'Reilly is earned that because, hey, the other thing is, how active do you think an influential O'Reilly was in getting Stampcoes to sign? Come on, of course he was, right? You might say the same thing of Jonathan Marsh,

so O'Reilly is pretty sensitive to all of that, but I know O'Reilly and Stampcoes are just flat out waiting for the phone ring. You know, and if Trots comes to them, okay, in Stampcoes, he can manage that process. He's going back and saying, all right, here are the two, three, maybe four teams that I'm willing to consider. But we're running out of runway here, fellas. You know, we're having this conversation on Thursday. All of a sudden that Friday deadline hits

like a ton of wrecks, or when you're trying to navigate a process, including a future hall of favor, like Stephen Stampcoes, Friday morning of the trade deadline, I mean, it gets pretty

“complicated. I think today, I think today, tonight on Thursday is pivotal with all these big guys.”

Yeah. Thomas Stampcoes, O'Reilly, I mean, Parecos still sit. They're trying to figure his stuff out. I mean, all of that, all of that. I think he's going to shake down today. I also believe that the McCarrant trade, and then it was Smith who also got Dell. I think it, it upset the group a little bit. It seemed like it also caught off guard. That was kind of like, oh, yeah, you could tell. So that could baby potentially be the, like the straw that broke the camels back and then

being like, I fuck this. Let's just get the fuck out of here and, and, and, and reshuffle the deck. Um, I had one just to go back to Detroit and Biz mentioned having the two golly prospects. And my mind went back to when Florida had Levi in, in Spencer night. And, you know, they get Ryan Hart in that trade to Buffalo for Levi. And then they get, um, Jones, like two pivotal guys to help them win two different cops. You think Detroit's sitting on that? Like, okay, we can either

wait a few years to trade these guys, let it kind of marinate or they're ready to trade one of

“them now. Yeah, I think they're right. I do, but now we're going back again into the Robber Thomas”

world. And the type of deal, the type of of of piece that your piece is that you're getting back because they see, they see big value in those, those kids that are developing that position. And when you look around the national hockey, I mean, how many times do we look at so-called contender teams and go there, gold, and he's not good enough. But there's about four

right now. Yeah. So, yeah, the problem is that, you know, those kids that you've talked about

games, I mean, they're not kind of materialized or develop overnight. You've got to be patient in that process. But I will tell you they're highly regarded. They're not being shopped in any way shape or form. But are they assets that eyes have been is going to use? If not now, we're potentially in the summer, 100%. I mean, I'm looking right now in the McMahon situation interesting to me because all of a sudden it's like, hey, if we don't trade them, we can

resign them. But where Toronto's at? I'm like, I don't know. I mean, look at sure what's deal. It's going to be similar, right? So it's like, this guy's, this guy's values is highs, it's ever been like being a oilist fan. That guy is like a dream come true for a playoff run, I think. But what are you hearing on that? Do you see the side of like signing them if you don't get what you want? Yeah. It's being considered for sure. It'll be interesting to see if

the Nick Wattsrade influences that situation scenario at all. I had a long talk with Toronto

There was interest as tire kicking, but there weren't any legitimate offers that he could work. I love you see that change, right? Bobby McMahon, he's one of those guys. I'm not going to compare him directly to Zach Hyman, but I will use the market as the comparison. Because when Hyman left and then found his way very quickly in Edmonton, Leafs Nation just went, oh my god,

“like, oh good. What if he looked with Matthews and all that? We wouldn't pay him. What are we doing?”

Yeah. So you're talking about Toronto doesn't have the appetite to go to five million a year

on Bobby McMahon. The key for sure would deal with the Saddles A sharks. Doesn't change the appetite of Vancouver or Toronto, but what it does is solidify the position of Bobby McMahon and his agents, the Bartlett's, right? They're looking to go, okay, well, as much as this kid wants to stay, you know, in Toronto, he's not a 25-year-old. Like he's this chance. Yeah. This is chance. We're looking for him to keep for sure when it's San Jose. He's earned the opportunity based on

his level of play and Toronto, I think, would get to four and a half, maybe slightly above that. I mean, I know it's dollar in dollar out when you're capping, but you're split in Harris here.

And that's a guy that keeps you a competitive. And they're not trying to renovate a rebuild in Toronto.

They're trying to flip a switch and bring in good players. So they can be real competitive again. Next season. Not two years or three years from now. And players like Bobby McMahon, as soon as they're gone, man, you regret it because you keep looking for the same type of player down the road. You look at the quotes in Boston, between geeky and the media and then Dawn Swenie and the media and, you know, geeky as a player and we all know, like you put yourself in a position

and make the playoffs, the big dog Florida, they're kind of done right now. You look at it as like this is our chance, right? And geeky's like, oh, yeah, hopefully we're, we're proved to Dawn that we can go out and get some guys and then Dawn kind of didn't seem like he was on the same page. Wow, Dawn is a bit of a lone wolf. You know, obviously deals on a daily basis of the cam, the alien and the headhunteres of the Boston Bruins. I got lots of time for Swenie because of

history. You know, that guy can have a deadline. He figures it out and finds a way. I mean, we thought the Bruins were essentially dead and buried after last year. They moved Martian at the deadline, Brandon Carlo to the Toronto Maple Leafs. All right, they're, they're using one of the R words here. We go in Boston. It's going to get stale for a couple of years and then they're competitive. Look, they're, they're, they're in the market for defensemen. They've been kicking

tires and wrist the line and for a good amount of time. I'm starting to see the old, the all of Reckton Larson stuff. So I, I can't imagine Dawn Swenie doesn't find a way to take the bad office shoulder between now and the deadline. So they're going to get help. Whatever that

“help looks like, it seems like it would be on the back end. I believe they'd like to add a”

winner in Boston as well. And they've, they've got some pieces that they can throw in play. Right. They've got some prospect players that have caught the attention of, of other teams around the NHL. So I'd be shocked if Swenie doesn't add a standbowlman in his time and

Edmonton's so far. There was a list that came out of basically what's gone out this year and then

what's came in. And I feel like it's been a bit of a failure in a sense of lost assets based on what's been returned. What's your opinion on that? And I mean, do you think that there's any possibility that he's able to flip the switch and make something relevant happen before the end of the deadline? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's pretty obvious that, you know, the, the Edmonton orders go as deep as their superstars will carry them. Right. And I don't, you know, it's not my job.

You guys can analyze. I don't pile on people because, you know, I just put the pieces the puzzle in play here. But when I look at the pieces of the puzzle in Edmonton, what I see is a hockey

“operations group that is trying to fix past mistakes. That's, that's what I see. Moves that”

haven't worked out that now that they're realizing that they got to fix otherwise this, this team isn't going anywhere near a Stanley Cup final again this year or next year, maybe then you even, and if you don't this year, and then you get into the year, now you're into having some real tough conversations about Connor McDavid and others. Right. So I will give the Bowman a benefit of the doubt. Every general manager makes mistakes and lots of them make multiple mistakes. You

can't dwell on it. You can't curl up in the fetal position. You've got to find a way to fix it. And, you know, if they go deep again or who it owes, they continue to add here. I think like

good pieces, right? And I feel like he's touched two areas that absolutely needed it. Now they need

their goal-titting to be better. I mean, that's, that's crystal clear. And, and they need some some other players to find a way to figure out. You know, Darnell and Urs, I mean, go down the list of all the guys that need to be better who have accepted the challenge of being better. And I don't think Bowman is done yet. I, I still think they want to add another forward because you look at last year. All right, who don't play out? They don't have Corey Perry.

“A vanner cane was a nice, he was a nice player for the lawyers in the playoffs, right?”

Yeah, I'll tell you, he's hurt. And Connor Brown. And, and they, and now those players this year. And you have our hurt now for a while. Yeah, yeah. Don't, don't you run the ricks, though, of, you know, pissing off your big dogs, like Leon and, and Connor, where, like, Connor signed, you know, a three-year extension, not a eight-year when he could last summer. It's like, it's almost like, hey, listen, guys, you got four years of me to win this, like, they should be

great. It was a two-year extension. It was even less. Yeah. So it's like, these guys, in my opinion, if I was there, GM, I'd be selling everything that I own to get this guy at Jampion Chip, so maybe he'll stay longer. Yeah. And I do the same thing in Toronto, and I do the same thing. You'll most of the other top five, top seven superstars are insulated by good, good players, and they're good teams, and they're, they're top contending teams. Can't say that about,

“but about Toronto, and that's why it's fair in the media for us to look and go, okay,”

well, you know, what if those guys take the Queen Hughes approach in Vancouver? Where there are two years out, and they go, yeah, there's a pretty good chance. I'm not going to extend, you know, I'm just being honest here. Let's see how the season goes, and then the season doesn't go great, and Vancouver cuts bait and gets a hell of a deal from the Minnesota. Well, you know, what if, let's just play that, what if Austin Matthews has that same conversation with

you know, the Maple Leafs through his agent, Judd Maldave? This hoffs, he's, I don't think it's gonna happen with Connor McDavid, this hoff season. I think there'd have to be a collapse, a colossal failure for that to happen, but to your point, you know, that's the territory that you get into when these guys are on short-term deals. Like, Connor didn't have to extend. He said, "No, you know what? We've been back to back Stanley Cup finals. I get a game seven. It's a

flip-off of a coin. Curtis, Yoda, we didn't, but I'm gonna wait it out. I'm gonna see all this season goes. I'm gonna see what we've done to add to make a future here or something that I can deeply invest in, but I'm gonna wait till the end of the year." He didn't do that because he didn't want to be a distraction, but that doesn't mean that he can't come forward in the near future and say, "Yeah, this, this isn't direction I'm going." I got a name, Elias Peterson.

I was just gonna bring 'em up. It seems like they don't want to retain salary and if that's

the case, you'd probably basically have to give 'em away for very minimal. It just feels like

it's not the same player. Who's kicking tires on him and what's the answer? Yeah. Well, kick-and-tires is the right way to describe it. I'm not even sure that people are kicking tires anymore. They were just prior to the Olympics. I think they were a discussion or two during the Olympic break and now it's relatively quiet around that. If you're not willing to retain, how do you move that contract? You know, because even though you'd have to take

“back a bad contract or contracts, but teams view Elias Peterson as a 70 point guy. That's what”

they view for me and what do I know? I'm not chastising, Patrick Alvin or Jamie Rutherford. You get off that contract? I think it's a win. I think you see way possible through it. Yeah. You know,

somebody gives you a first round draft pick for Elias Peterson and you don't have to retain salary.

Don't you take it? I took it. It have to maybe give a first round to get rid of it. Wow. Yeah, one-and-be-one. Yeah. The sad part is, you know, you talk to Adam foot and before that, you talk to Rick talk it. He's a good kid. He's a good kid. When he's on his game, he can be an effective player. It doesn't look like he's going to be that 100 point guy again. But that doesn't mean he can't fit with another team where he's surrounded by good players and his ice is managed. His situations

are all of those things. Well, that's not going to be in Vancouver. He's not going to age well there and they don't, they can't lean on him moving forward. So I'd be surprised if he, he, it feels like got more of a summer thing. I think Carolina was probably one of or the team that that kicked

retention I wouldn't think. Well, it's going to be hopefully a wild day today as this drops on Friday. We appreciate we know your buzz and busy right now. So thanks for hopping on and filling us in on some different names and teams. And was it my pleasure boys? Was there any one or any trade

“potentially that you wanted to bring up that we didn't ask you about? Was there anything else?”

I don't think so. I mean, I can tell you what, man. I'm getting closer to retirement. I don't know when. Maybe I got five more years in me. I think this whole Robbie Thomas Colton, Barack O' thing with the St. Louis Blues, maybe shaved a good year off my, okay. My professional life expectancy. Okay. I will, I will tell you this just a quick shameless plug. You guys got to see what James Dutley is putting store for. You guys would have cold open his

and TV right? I already saw a quick clip of the beginning in the car with the masks. Yeah, like how they got me and others to participate. I mean, we try and entertain a good team. We have a good teammate. It's I just saw the cut version this morning. It's all rages. So that's all one for you quick before. Yeah. If we can just the islanders, like they've kind of put themselves in a good position, the obviously with the young studs shape or if they're not really

a team at the deadline that goes out and does stuff. But with Darshan, you think they could make a splash or they'll hold serve for a bit. Yeah. No, I don't know that they're going to hold serve. And I don't know that they're ready or wanting to make a splash. I'm sure he's participating and lots of stuff. I've heard you bound off, name out there. I mean, that's not something that really moves the needle unless he's packaged in in something along those lines. But yeah, I mean, any team

that that feels like they're not right there. But ready to give their group a bit more experience. And go as deep as they can in the playoffs is definitely in the market to add. But guys, I'll we'll end it the way we started. The number of players in play is borderline unprecedented. Borderline. So if Darshan's kick the Darshan, I'm sure he is, there's got to be opportunity for him out there to do something that's going to upgrade. Awesome. All right, Tricks.

Tricks, like you so much, part. Yeah. Get some sleep. No. All right, fellows. Thank you very much, Darren. Dregger trying to set us up on what may go down. And Dregs, I mean, God, we didn't know that I would love to get his live reaction when we found out Pareco did say I'm not. There's a lot going to be put in. And it is just a non-existent trade. Now, but thank you to Darren Dregger. Gee, I got to ask you, Maryville University is going to

D1. I think they're transitioning next year. Full D1 the following year. I've never heard

of Maryville University. Where is it? St. Louis. So it's, you know, kind of joining Lindenwood St.

“Louis's growing college hockey. That's why they did the, they did the frozen for their last year.”

So I, they're going to become a team. I believe 27, 28 will be their first season. They're going to play a hybrid year, 26, 27. Awesome for the St. Louis area. I think you got, we've seen it over the years. There's been so many NHL players that have come from that area. They deserve college hockey. So I think it's great to see if they don't hire a patty maroon. I'll never watch a game of Mary. Maryville. Maryville. Hey, that's a genius idea. If you ask you Robinson, if August

Santa can be right now in the NCAA tournament, I think anyone can do it. No shot at August

Santa. I'd never heard of them. Now we have Maryville. Maybe Maryville's winning the frozen

for in like 10 years. Who knows? As I've said, there should be no bad NCAA division. One teams with the CHL rule. So Maryville, hopefully they go out and they become a dominant program and it just adds another team that kids can go play D1 for if they're that good and able to their

“ACH in two right now. So I think it's pretty cool for all the alumni. There's kids 10, 15 years”

ago that were played on a club hockey team that, you know, they're going to be telling their kids they played for division one-hawks. Yeah, I think there's a lot of guys who played Penn State Club Arizona State Club. Yeah, I played a Penn State and they might leave out the fact that when they played there, it wasn't D1. But hey, you're telling me, I don't leave. I leave out that club word all. Oh, yeah, I played up at Plum Estate. You did. Okay. Well, club. Yeah, but you just

thrown it after. Okay. Well, I respect that. Capri saw boys. It hasn't taken very long and he's got the most goals for the Minnesota Wild. Crazy. Their franchise history goal leader is now Capri real Capri saw. He starts making what does he make next year? Seventeen shoots. You're good for him. He has 220 goals now. So I love watching the wild. That was in the game. They beat Tampa Bay 5-1. It was an empty netter backhander from center ice first 30 fifth of the season. So he

plans up with over 40 goals. Again, close to 100 points if he doesn't get there. It's an incredible

wild fans knew we need to sign him whatever he wants. They did. And he's now, I just can't believe like I don't feel he's been there that long. What is it, Biz? You think, what's season is it for him in Minnesota? Would you guess for Corel? Say that five. I would say sixth. This is his sixth

NHL season. And he's never played 82 games. He had 55 games, 81, 67, 75, 41 only last year

and 62 this year. One player he is. Not a great number for highest amount of goals in a franchise. It's been around that long. How long's Minnesota been back there? 35 years? Yeah. No, more than that because they were playing, was it 2,026 years maybe 99 right around that. They came in. Yeah. Not great. It could end up at 500 with this guy. Right. Right. Right. I mean, what is the Leafs leading goal? It's going. I don't think it's 500. Austin Matthews just under 500 and it's going to

get there soon. Biz, uh, wait. I don't know if you know the answer, but who do you think he'd be to bring the breaker had to be Gabrick? Gabrick, he did a video form. I saw a, an old New York

“Rangers dinner. I believe it was, um, yes. It's in or, uh, who else was there? A, the brinkie. Gabrick,”

the Benzki, uh, haggling. Uh, I was all like, uh, look like a hell of a crew. Now, they'll

sort of, was there a bunch of good looking cats, too. That's a, that's a good looking lineup. Hell of a dinner that must have been. They had some great teams those years, but, um, all right, boys. We haven't talked to him in a while. Let's bring him in. Our race world. Here we go. The alien. All right. Hello, everybody. Welcome to our race world. Here in these spit and check this podcast,

what's going on, boys? We're gonna piggyback on your, uh, hurl Capriz off that day. Imagine he beat Gabrick's record with, in a hundred and twenty one fuel games. That's insane to break that off. That, like, that through a games, his god goes per game, 0.577 for, uh, hurl. Gavrick was 0.436. But I saw that number jump right up the street find, but, and that same game, too. I don't if you saw Tampa Scott Saber. He got a 10-minute misconduct for some sort of chirping. And I

poked around asking if you guys were on the league. And I guess the officiating calls, things a lot tighter. And I'll keep you, you've been the most recent NHL among the squad here. Did you notice, like, uh, a change, maybe trending with raps like they'd be calling shit that they wouldn't be for a big time. Yeah, it's more of like the younger guard coming in. Like, you've seen in the last, like, five or six years, the older guys getting pushed out, which I wasn't a big fan of. I

loved the old school guys. You could give it to them. They'd give it back to you. And then you'd go crack a beer with them after. But I think the new newer generation of the ref does a little bit softer than, you know, the old guys. I mean, you still get your, uh, the West McCallies, the Kelly's, the Czecharoonies, those guys are, you know, the pros pros. They're not going to tee you up. Probably as easily as a younger guy, but I do feel that the younger, uh, raps in the league nowadays are a

little bit softer and quicker to give you a 10. So it wasn't, it wasn't something he said to a player on the opposite team. It was something he said to the ref. Well, they did specify me, but he, he got right and curls there and they tossed them out. I mean, it, I mean, the video. Yeah, so I feel like it's more

“that's what's crazy. I mean, if it was over something you said, that isn't like racial, obviously,”

or something, then it's like, wait, what are we doing? Like, yeah, I think sometimes they do that to just de-escalate the situation. Yeah. That's to kind of like getting the guy out of the game, getting the guys out of the game. Think if there's under 10 minutes to play, they just give them the tens to send them to a locker room for a quick shower to calm down. Like, there was an incident, uh, when, you know, a goal had been pulled for an extra attack. And then, you know, the late, late game

shenanigans are going on and the ref gave everybody a 10, including the guy who came on the ice as the extra attack, who had nothing to do with anything. He could mind, you know, hoping to score goal and then get an attempt in this context, because the ref didn't want to get more of that bullshit. So that was interesting to see we had to say about that key trade deadline. Kind of, I don't know, let me say it dodged. It's a little, it's a little bit low up biz. I think, but the capital in

“up, I think eight to half million next year, do you think maybe that does what teams that can maybe”

retain what play is next year, so they're like, maybe hold onto some guys? Yeah, I think that definitely that's going to help things out. And I just think it's just one of those year where there's so many, like especially in the east, there's so many teams that could end up coming out of it, that that just makes more people want to add. And then in the sense of all the other teams are willing to sell because of the market's high. So I guess I don't really have an answer for you other than, yeah,

the, I think next year it'll be a little easier. And this is our first year without double

retention, like we talked to Drager about it's, it's a brutal, brutal rule for like activity around the deadline and things happen and, you know, story lines that maybe would not be there, like the

team in the mix that eats up in the money and boom, we have a trade without that there, it could

always be, you know, more quiet than we, than we hope. It seems like more teams want to get guys

with term, like back in the day, it seems like if you were going to trade to go on a run, you, like

“I think in the quadru, the quadru year, like he had one, he was a UFA that summer, like now these”

teams, it seems like they want more term, you know, when they are making a big trade. Yeah, not sure if I'd missed the first part of Drager, but yeah, that needs to be 75 regular season days between trades. If a salary's going to retain really. Yeah, and then the rule, obviously, kind of to throw them, doing a close to the deadline. But a couple of the boys on the Chickless family have been a pot of some big trades, Colby Armstrong, Quest was the barrier

and hosted a trade back. See, March 26th, oh, eight, huge trade there when he went from Atlanta,

the Pittsburgh, and our own with Doug, with, I don't know if you saw Mike Camino put the

odds, we don't the other day. It was a free 409, the with Doug to Anaheim for Coonison, Tangrad, you obviously, we talked about this a bunch. But that was a week, that was a week before the deadline. I was traded on deadline day from Anaheim to Edmonton, that I was called 20 minutes after three

“o'clock. Two, I thought I was safe there. I was not safe. I'll never forget finding out. That was the first”

big trade in my career when Armie got dealt. And Armie was such a big part of our team. He was locker room guy. He played so well with Sid, especially the year before when they were on the same line. And all of a sudden, you're like, wow, Armie's gone. We were in Long Island. It was crazy. Just finding that out. And then it's like, whoa, we got a host of though. And it's been mentioned before, like players really appreciate when they have a good year. We talked about geeky and boss

and saying, yeah, I hope we've proved to add somebody. And the feeling you get of losing a teammate that you love and like, I'd been with Armie and the miners too. And then the crushing feeling of that compared to like Holy Ship, Marion Hoses on our team. It's like, it's just like crazy emotions on both ends of the spectrum. And Hose came in. Unfortunately, he got kind of hurt right away. They keep my daughter hurt. It's MCL and missed like the first 10 games after we got him. But then

once he was playing, it was like Holy Ship. And it ended up being Eric Christians in Army and they

Angela Esposito who never paned out was a big time prospect at the time. And then maybe another

first rounder. And you look at the return. It's like, wow, Atlanta got a lot. It's like, but no, offense to Armie. Like Marion Hoses like crushes all that combined. So it's just weird how it went down.

“I'll never forget that. And yeah, you were a part of a big deal as well. Like did you know,”

no, it was going to be going down. How much did insight did you have before it happened? You were telling us this story, recently. Yeah. So no, it was actually I talked to Don Maloney, probably like two days before the trade deadline. And they had talked to Donner as well. They told me I wasn't going to get traded that I was going to be there. Because that was the era was the McDavid and Michael sweepstakes. So they were trying to, you know, eventually ended up trying

to tank to try to get one of those guys didn't work out. But yeah, I was I didn't even think about it. Really, I was at Z's kids birthday party and didn't have service in there and came out and had like three missed calls from Don. And he was like, you got traded. And I, I literally didn't think it was going to happen. And yeah, I was off to the, off to New York the next day, PJ from Don. Thank you. He actually sent it out for you. PJ. And then when I landed helicopter to the to the stadium.

Wow, a load were you buy yourself in the chop and the in the plane? No, James Shepherd was in San Jose. They traded for him. And they said, you can either fly from San Jose to New York or you can fly to Phoenix and jump on the plane. And when I got on the plane, he was sitting there. He was like, you're nuts if you thought I was flying in New York and not a chance to what I got to. I fly to Alberta, just the fucking get on a PJ. No, a couple of trades jumped out to it. Like, how good they

were at them for the teams at a quiet, like going to Jeff Carter when the King's got him back February, 27, 2012. He ended up playing for the Kings for 10 seasons after that put up 38 points in 46 playoff games won the two cups. That was an outstanding trade for the Kings. Obviously, he didn't want to go to Columbus. And then another one that jumped out to when the caps got traded for Philip for his brick to Nashville for Martin, E. Ratt and Michael Latter, E. Ratt only played

like two more years. He was Brisbane getting a thumb for Nashville for the last shoe. But I want to ask you biz, what do you think? Obviously, Grettsky trade. We don't that's a well exempt out from this. What do you think is the biggest trade ever, a most stunning trade like close to the deadline that you remember? I just kind of look at how ridiculous the Joe Thornton one was looking back and what the return was and the fact that he ends up winning the MVP in that same season. I don't think that

will ever happen again. And yeah, I was just kind of, yeah, I guess blown away by that one. You have somebody zooming in and out? Yeah, what is going on? No, no, it's a certain, when you log in, if you don't have a certain button, it's going to keep adjusting to the movement. And we

sit still. No. Don't even try. Don't even try. What, what, what, obviously, not the one we're like, Grettsky would trade jumps to you with the most NHL history. I don't know, but the fact that

Pittsburgh traded for Chris Kuhnets and I was the guy going the other way, like Kuhnets was incredible

there. He was incredible. He, he, he, he, he, one Stanley cops. He was Sid's line mate. Like, they don't, they don't, I don't know if they win those cops without Chris Kuhnets. He played that much. So do you remember the hit he threw on chemo team in the year that they played Philly in the playoffs when they won their first cut. Like, he was he was killing people. He was scoring big goals. He ended up being there for all of them. It was just, it was a trade looking back as a penguins fan,

like, that guy is forever remembered as a key part of those three cup teams. And you got rid of me for him. It's like, what a trade. Ray Cheryl, restaurant piece Ray, what a deal. I know it's, it's, it's like been like only what a year now since it happened. But looking back at the martial one and the fact that the year prior to that, they won the president's trophy, he gets knocked out by Bennett. You got Kachuk chirping them. I was just on like this Kachuk's podcast.

And I didn't realize that Matthew Kachuk was was when Marsha tried to come back in that

game seven that he was like, he called him a Quitter. He's like, I've never seen that in Quitter

and his team like that, which hit Marsha pretty deep. In the fact that I know it's turned, it went from a second router to it was a conditional first that they got past a certain round. So now it's a first router. But for the impact that Marsha made for just the late round first pick,

“I think that that is probably going to go down is one of the one of the craziest deals at the”

deadline to like essentially a rival who knocked you out the year before and for him at the time get traded for a second router to then have, did he have what 12 goals in last year's cup run? That he was on a six year deal a lot of it. Yeah. Yeah. I was going back to, I mentioned before. The SPZO trade, anytime you have three hall of future hall of fame is in the same trade in saying SPZO and Calvad, they went to the ranges for Brad Pock, Jean-Retel and Joe's and Lucy who played

I think a couple of hours. It was also crazy that I mean, Chris Pronger got Delta Edmonton, they go to games seven cup finals, right? He goes to Anaheim, they win this stand, they cup. He goes to Philly, they get to the cup finals against the black box, it does in tennis. That was a guy. It was like trade form and you're going and Corey Perry's same thing. It's been so unfortunate all the cup finals in a rowey loss, but you grab him until this year in L.A. it was

like, well, you're making a run. There's just so many players that have been moved different times in every time made an impact and it shows like their worth is not just a player, but obviously them as a teammate, there's something there that helps this team or their team go on different runs. Mine was Ray Bork. That was kind of in that era too, of guys staying on teams, they're whole career and as a kid, I thought Ray Bork would be a brune as whole career. I know the trade was

almost like a thank you to him to try to get him a standly cup, but just what it meant in history and then Joe Sack had given him the cup to raise before him. I just think of that trade as being probably my favorite just because I got to see Ray win the cup and you know, all the Boston

“fans were happy for him as well. And it's crazy that I think most people think that when he got”

dealt, they won it, but they didn't do that. No, right? They did not get it done and then the next year they give up raw Blake, then they got it done. So it was that full season Ray had there with the cup. G through this one in their Taylor Hall Adam Larson one for one. That was a pretty wild one. Let's go try to win the empty. Yeah, this is like journalism nerd stuff, but Park Empire, they've been keeping stats on who's been breaking all the trade stories. Right now Elliot Friedman

I tell Elliot, he's broken four of their trade so far, Darren Drager are the buddy. He's got two Michael Russo one, Chris Jones, the one David Pack got a one in the NHL team release, got one of them. So I like, yeah, I know it's like journalism nerdship, but I had to keep track on that, you know,

always nice to get a notch when you're, prize weeks he hasn't, and he hasn't cracked too many when he

does his weird videos from like brings locations. He's been cracking. I'm pretty good. How about this players who got traded at the deadline and the last season the Sabes made the playoffs, just some random names, Jason Arnold, Dustin Pena, Sergey Samson off, Frederick Boudin, Corey Stillman, Alex Cole the Yaco route to, but wait, the Sabes are different, they're not going to blow this,

“right? They're going to be in the playoffs, yeah. Yeah, I believe so. They could”

win their division and they're not slowing down. The break didn't hurt them. Now, we thought they had peraco, they don't, but they'll still go out and do something else and do it. It's magical. And what's cool is that tech alignants, well aware that they may not be able to come to terms with

it happening, and I just think that like the fans, I'm just I'm very, very happy for Sabres fan,

like what they've been through, dude. They've seen nothing but failure. Since I was 29 years old, like I'm fucking 43 or like it's just it's been so long and it's such a hockey market,

“and I can't wait for the first round in that building. They shouldn't, the only thing they should be”

worried about and I know biz, well, and is close to Buffalo, and you hopping on that bandwagon. There's been a lot of tweets about like keep him away from our team. I've seen several. Yeah, but that was the team. You went to more games in Buffalo, grown up as you did. Colonel, right? I've said that for the beginning. We used to, it was easier at the odd. We, the bank, I used to go to days to say, hey, we got season tickets, nobody's taken them for

tonight. You guys want to go, and I would ask my dad, hey, can we go, and he'd take me, and

obviously the Toronto was the big smoke, and that was where it was expensive to get tickets. So I didn't see as many games there until I actually, I've been a wide, wide gap, and then I've got recruited by a new agent, Mark Guy, and new port sports, and they brought me down. Our up to Toronto, excuse me, go brought me out for dinner. I got to go see the Toronto Maple Leafs against the L.A.

“Kings, and now I grew up a Toronto fan, but it was hard, man. It was expensive, as it still is.”

So he's like, "Bes, I see in your future you being an ambassador." I don't know Toronto Maple Leafs ambassador, and you're just like, "No way." And then, like, you're not even going to play form, and you're just like, "Wait, what? That doesn't make sense, Mark. I just just trust me." Listen, I'm not listening to you guys. I'm going to hop on any wagon I want to jump on. Like, that's my own right, as a hockey fan. There's no rules as

the how many teams you can have. You can get scrutinized by the fan base, and they can say, "No, no, no. They're avoiding me like the plague." Fuck you. I'm going to hop on any wagon I want to. I just haven't picked which one I'm going to hop on yet, because chances are, unless the native Leafs go 18 and 2, their last 20 end of the season, they make them play off. So, I'm jumping on a fucking wagon. I don't care what you guys say. Who are your five? Who are

your top five to get on right now? Montoya Hall would probably be one of them. Edmonton, obviously, Canadian teams for sure. Both of us. Buffalo will be one of them. I'm going to, I'm going to drive it. Ryan and Dallas must be homing. I'm going to, I'm just going to give you those three. I'm just going to give you those three for right now. Those are the high contenders, and I might have a sleeper that's in there.

And it's probably going to be like the one year where I tried to hop on all these different trains, and it was like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, where the, what's the guy with the, the big thing, the hood on his thing? The crypt keeper? Doctor? No, the crypt keeper or the, the, the, the guy who, they see it's like when he shows up when you're in a die. Oh, the grim Reaper, the grim Reaper, walking on the doors. That's going to be the meme of me just ruining everybody. But listen,

you know what, you know what, maybe I will jump on the star's bandwagon, but it's only going to be after one thing after this guest that we have coming on right now tells me why I should hop on the star's bandwagon. Bring them in Matt, do Shane, ladies and gentlemen, we had to bring a guy all

“Dr. Wood's up, buddy. Not much voice. Just got, uh, just got home. What's going on with you guys?”

You guys are humming right now, huh? Yeah, you know, we're playing well. Um, yeah, we're both entered. I, an absolute gauntlet of great teams here. Um, obviously there's no easy nights, but, uh, we have, off schedule coming up a big one tomorrow. So we're, uh, yeah, just taking a day by day, you know, it goes this time of year when you're, uh, kind of gearing up for that. You're just waiting, buddy. You're just getting excited. Like, yeah, yeah, you know what's coming. You know what's coming. So it's, uh,

especially in an art division right now. So you look like Riley Duckman right now. Does anyone know ever told you that? Who's that? Riley Duckman is it, Riley Duckman's country star that every, every ride, Riley Green. I definitely do not look like him, but, uh, I'll take it like a duckman. I thought his name on an Instagram was, was duckman or something. He's got like, I don't know, maybe I'm fucking at all up. And that, that's his handle, I think. Yeah, I follow him. He's actually one of my favorite,

favorite artists, but, uh, yeah, I definitely, uh, I'm like a Walmart version of him. Yeah, yeah, I'm so, I'm so excited. Yeah, a Costco brand. Costco's actually too good. Dutchy, we would just, we would just talking about the Pareco, um, you know, deal, not going through in him saying, no to it. Like, as a guy playing right now, like, what are your thoughts

on him? Just, you know, exercising his rights to not, to not go to Buffalo. It's first I'm here

with a team for however many years and you get a, you get to know move and there's a reason we all want it, right? And it's, there's reasons we sign where we do and reasons we want to be where we are.

“And, you know, I think, you know, obviously there's certain guys that would have jumped out that”

opportunity. He was, and he, you know, didn't want to go there. I mean, he can't hold any of that against, you know, anyone. It's their, it's their right with their contract, right? And we all play, we all play hard for, for that right? And he's a hell of a player, obviously. So that's kind of my take on that. I don't, you know, I'm pretty, uh, neutral on, you know, uh, his decision, obviously. But at the same time, it's his right. And, um, obviously, if he's, he locked in the St. Louis

for as long as he did because he wanted to be there, right? So I'm sure he's, I'm sure he's kind of like, okay, if I'm going to go, I want to be somewhere that I really, really want to be, I guess. Dr. You've been on with us before, great interview, uh, last year on things you've been through and, and the Nashville and what happened there and, and then this season, buddy, you battled a lot, right? Like, I imagine it was hard for you and, and your family probably played a big role in

staying positive throughout trying to get back. Yeah, um, that was tough. I mean, I, I'm sure you guys

have all been through the concussion stuff and, um, you know, the first two years here, I missed two

games and, um, it was, uh, you know, I've, I've been pretty healthy. I've, I've been, I've had to play through a little bit of stuff in the playoffs, but other than that, you know, I've been really healthy and, and then all of a sudden, you get, you know, hit like that and, um, just going through it. It was a pretty nasty concussion. I had an unreal doctor that I went out and saw on San Francisco, um, there's a Sergio Isolino and, uh, like, I know Sid's been able to see him and a

couple of other guys, um, that different points and I spent, you know, parts of two weeks out there and he got me, he got me right. I had, like, one of those, like, the similar concussions were you're, like, um, your eyes are way off and, um, just, yeah, it was nasty. Um, every time something would get better and I would think, okay, I'm right there, um, something else would pop up. Um, so, yeah, when I got back, the hardest thing about coming back was, you know, I hadn't really

played any games for our new coach and, um, you know, he was, so it took about, you know, 20 games to get comfortable and for him to get comfortable with me and kind of know where to put me and, um, you know,

our power play, our first unit was clicking out of crazy rate and they were playing almost full

two minutes so you come back and you're used to playing, you know, at least a minute of, you know, power play time, whether you're on the first second unit and all of a sudden you're not getting any of those touches and that really helps you get back into, um, you know, the swing of things and it was, it wasn't anything I was upset about. It was just because of the success they were having.

“Um, but it took a little bit and I think, uh, you know, probably took, I have a, you know,”

the first 20 games I come, I play a really good game, I feel good, you know, maybe not get on the board, you know, not quite get that confidence that you're looking for as an offensive guy and then the next game would be, um, you know, not as good or you'd be, you'd be trying to find your way a little bit and we weren't playing particularly well through that stretch either as a team and, um, so yeah, it took me a minute, but, um, you know, I think for you guys that of families, I think

through your point and your question, you know, I got to spend a lot of time at home during that time, which I obviously didn't want to be at home, but being around, getting to be around the kids and, and my wife, you know, it, you realize that, um, this is something we do. It's not who we are and our family is more about who we are and, and, and I think that kind of resonated with me. So on those hard days, they definitely made a lot easier. Dalits and new coach, like what's the

vibes with him in the lock room? Obviously, you said it took a little bit to figure things out, but 10 in a row now and how are the guys vibing with him and the fact that he's the new bench boss?

He's been great. I think from day one, we really enjoyed. First of all, he's, he's, uh, I mean,

he's a smart hockey guy. He came in. He didn't want to reinvent the wheel because we've been right there, right, and our, our past coaching staff did such a great job and, um, lying such a strong foundation, and I think, at the, at the, at the beginning, I think we might have even made a few too many adjustments and we've, I've actually, and I talked about it where we maybe try to take some, like, you didn't want to reinvent the wheel, but then we kind of started playing a little bit

different, losing some of what made us great last few years at, you know, peat and those guys had, I'd kind of laid a foundation for and, um, we got back to some of those things and then found that kind of balance between, try to improve upon the things that we felt we needed to,

“but also keeping our foundation and I think that's been a key, I think the other thing is we've,”

we've, we've tried to become more of a physical team and, um, he, he preached that coming in

got to play in the playoffs and, um, it's something we bought into big time and we're obviously a talented deep team, but I think the biggest jump in our game has been, and it's super cliche, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's true is the, the little things, you know, forechecking, tracking, finishing checks, just a little things like that. I think our D zone has been really effective this year. We changed that system and, um, you know, I think he's done a really good

job and he's been, he's communicated really well and, um, I definitely at this, my first got back, I was trying to feel him out a little bit of what he wanted for me and what, you know, kind of how he saw things and I, we had a few conversations through that and I'm grateful for kind of those struggles now because I got a chance to sit down with them and we, we should down for, we sat down a couple of times for like 30 minutes to just kind of shot the shit and just

talk through everything and it felt like I was talking to, you know, a family member or a friend

“who that's the comfort level that it was at and I think that's really important when you're kind”

of going through that stuff and, um, you're trying to find your way and it's a really hard injury to come back from and I had no sample size before to kind of fall back on the season. So, I think we had one conversation after, uh, we played Tampa. We had a game at home. We didn't play well. I didn't play well and we talked that next day and I think that was a big turning point I know for me for sure. Obviously, Miss and Sagan, uh, for the rest of the years, the tough blow for

you guys, but even speaking on Gallatin, I saw a quote that he's, he still wants to have him around,

which I never understood why they never wanted injury guys around. Usually when guys are hurt,

they're in the morning and then gone by by the time the guys get there. But what does that mean to your group? Just to have your coach come on and say, hey, we want this guy around. He's been there. He's done it. Be like, we want a guy like him in the locker room being around. Yeah, you know, he hasn't, he's kind of been on, uh, around on and off. He came on a road trip recently

“and then we haven't seen him a ton lately. But, um, I think it's, you know, more than anything. I”

think it's great for the player. I think, you know, a little bit when I was hurt, he would grab me and shout with me and ask me what I'm seeing and stuff like that. And I just keep shooting gauge and keep shooting, being part of it. And Sagan's had such a tough goal the last couple of years was with these injuries and surgeries. And when he got hurt this time around, I don't know if I've ever been as heartbroken for a guy just because of how it's gone for him the last couple of years

in terms of his health. And he's played so well when he's been in it. It was, uh, I felt just so bad for him. So I'm sure for him, it's great to be able to stay engaged with, you know, coach asking you what you see and things like that. So I think it's, I think it's, you know, um, by Goli, I think I think it's just like a he has a really good awareness with that. I think and I think that's probably why he wants to keep him included. I watch you guys and like, you know, everyone talks

about Rontan and for good reason, but like what why it Johnson's Don is incredible. And to have a player of that caliber, like there's so many things that go into it, whether it's shot, like his

skill level, but his compete seems crazy to me. Like he's just a guy that's like he never stops

coming. And I imagine you see the same thing, just kind of like honey Badger and and skilled, but also will grind it out the way like a fourth line or wood. And that's probably why he scores so many

“goals around the crease. And do you see that as well? Yeah, you know, I think he battles it like he's”

not a big, he's taller than you think he is, but he's he's pretty slight. And he's just a, he's, he doesn't maybe battle and grind like a fourth line guy would, but he wins battles like a fourth line guy would. I guess if we're going to use that analogy, right? Where he goes in, he's just really good with this stick he'll get he'll he'll be like, it'll be like a 70 30 bottle at center race where a guy might be jumping by him for a two-an-one and he'll find a way to, you know, he just did it the other

night where he just gets on the right side and and wins that bottle and you're like, okay, like that went from a very dangerous situation to nothing, right? And I mean, he's got great hands around the net. He's a very, he's not allowed player. He's not super dynamic, but he's extremely dependable consistent, especially for a young guy. I mean, young guys usually are a little bit more

inconsistent and he's just never, he's just kind of his bad games. You don't even notice that they're bad.

I can, I don't even, I came and think of a game where I was like, ooh, Johnny's in one and I, you know, like he's, he's always just like consistent and and yeah, he's, yeah, I mean, he's having that success because he's so steady and he's a very, he's quiet, he's laid back, he's just very even keel and that, that kind of disposition, I think allows him to play the way he has and he's obviously been an absolute killer on the power play this year. I think he's got 21 or 20

he's in the 20s for power play goals and I think he's so pretty, pretty wild. Duchy, I got, I got one more for me and we thank you for hopping on with such short notice,

after you guys go on a 10 game heater, we're going to be hearing it from the fans. My last one is

“is it was kind of a weird ending to last year with the Ottenger in the Borough situation.”

Where does the trust lie in in Ottenger and moving forward and how do you think that he's kind of recovered from that whole weird scenario? Yeah, it was, it was unfortunate because I'm a big fan of both people involved in that situation of Pete and Otter and when you're in, it's kind of, I think when something like that happens, you want to kind of take aside one way or the other and I think it was just an unfortunate, I was sitting there going, geez, I hate this. I hate the way

this feels and it was unfortunate for sure and you know, I don't think you'd have to ask all of it, but I don't like it stuck with them. I think he knew he had all of our confidence and support through the whole thing and he's been great this year and you know, he's on that team USA team for a reason right without good the goal-tending was on that team. He's right there. He's backing up in a gold medal game. You know, I think they still could have won with him. Obviously,

he's in that and said, it's good as hellbuck played. I think Otter could have given that

“performance as well as I've seen it. That's how good he is and you know, the amazing,”

the really great thing that people don't talk about enough is if when he's not in, we got another number one goalie in Casey to Smith and he doesn't get near enough credit for that. And I think that allows Otter to, you know, I think it probably pushed him a little bit and I also think it's a great, you know, compliment for him. And so we're really lucky to have have those guys back there and we know every single night that, you know, those guys can steal a game for us and

we can win any game with those guys back there. Duchy, thank you very much, buddy. It's been incredible

hockey to watch and you guys are getting fired up for the playoff. So thanks for hopping on and good luck. I'm glad you're healthy again. So stars go. Appreciate it guys. Stay care. Keep busy away from you guys. Guys, we're going to take a minute and talk about Prime Monday, Nighthockey. Huge match. This, my dude. Ottawa, Vancouver biz, Monday, March 9th, 9 p.m. Eastern, Barn Burning. Can Ottawa get in, biz? Can they do it? Can they beat the lowly

connox on Prime Monday, Nighthockey? They're going to have to spank them. They're going to have to pay the statement and continue to march towards that wild card position. And if there's one team to do it against, it's the Vancouver connox because they are not looking too great right now. It's been a

tough season. You know, a few years ago removed from that second round matchup game seven loss

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“Bring our way back in. What would you have asked that you if you had the chance?”

You know what? I actually, I was going to ask them about playoff format. I know a lot of people haven't liked the last few years. I don't know the divisions, but I was going to bring up back in the early 80s, who knows what's going on back then. They actually went one through 16 back in the day. They've seen a bunch of 16. And I think I was going to ask them if like would play as want that because I like I think the possibility of any two teams meeting in the Stanley Cup final

would be unbelievable. Like because that, that could happen when it was one through 16. I know what like the divisions might matter as much. You keep the divisions, but I mean, the idea of like the broads of the Canadians in the Stanley Cup final, like LA versus Anaheim, to be unbelievable. So I was going to pick his brain on that. But I think that that's more ridiculous than the format than they have now. Really? Just because you're not playing against the other

conference, we're like, for instance, this year, if it's so much more difficult, like if you're a great team in the east, you would have the opportunity to get so much more ahead of teams in the west, we have to battle against each other. So for me, it's more about the focus in the conference that then you see one through eight in the conference. That to me is the play. You guys just mentioned LA and Anaheim, and we do have a little update on Colton Pareco. So Kevin Weeks is now reporting

update on St. Louis D. Colton Pareco. I'm told his preference as of now is to stay in the west and he's open to the LA kings and Anaheim ducks among potential landing spots. Wow, imagine him and

not necessarily lie, but like, I did. I know people like, whether it's the other that it's

quite a like probably a kind of stupid ship, but I thought they pulled it off perfect. The way they bring on Quinn and Jacket and then brought the ladies and aftos. I don't know, it was good stuff. It was, I think it put a bow on everything too. It was like, okay, I think we can all move on now, you know. And then she dropped the pocket at Toronto jersey the other night too. I'll tell you when one of the best things, I love the Dutch all the US athletes had with the pocket hats and

“like parachute pants, but I'll tell you the best thing I love was the sneakiest all the guys”

had on. They're like the Nike Quotes has like give the George Castanza's like the blue with the white stripe, but they'll blue with the red stripe. I don't know if you've seen him, he did. Yeah, good. You catch them and all that. I didn't even notice those. Yeah, yeah, pretty pretty. Well, they had like fell bottoms on the whole time. You could barely see them, but when you got a view of them, they were nice. I could see you rocking those, all right. Oh, yeah. All right, the Ocas dance is,

I got them probably somewhere in my closet over here. Quotes is a big and Charleston. Oh, absolutely man, the gazelle's too. I got I got a piece of those to write. Couple of notes before I wrap up here. My pick tonight, San Jose is in St. Louis, San Jose very much alive for the playoffs, but playing great hockey, St. Louis, got the fourth seal signing out right now. I think that maybe demoralize the team. Don't know the line yet, obviously, or a little a little ways out, but San Jose over St. Louis Friday night.

My classic recommendation this week is the TV show, Veep. Julio Luis right first. She went six

enemies, nominated seven times, brilliant show. He'd he'd never hear of it. No, it's funny. HBO,

“so god damn funny. It like shop funny. I think they did seven seasons, 65, absolutely hilarious.”

Just legit one of the funny shows. Yeah, yeah. She went like said, nominated seven times, one six enemies, then this role is awesome. I mean, I better, better in this than she was inside, I'll do completely different roles. So if you haven't watched Veep put it on, it's like, yeah, it's a set in a political world, but it's not a political show. It's just nonstop polarity. Give that a world. And one last one here, a buddy, fight over it. He wanted to reach out to the Blackstone Valley

school's hockey program. They're playing Rogers tonight. The Rhode Island playoffs and fights set to the Blackstone Valley boys go kick Rogers asshole. Let's go Blackstone Valley. No, Blackstone Valley is the team that they were on the ice when that Pateauket shooting happened a few weeks ago. So fights asked us to, you know, give some encouraging words. They're underdogs heading into a big game this weekend. So go Blackstone Valley, the boys are rooting for. Let's go Blackstone Valley.

“Mom Blackstone, baby. Let's go. Get some masks. All right. Have you seen the show industry?”

Oh, yeah. Are you watching it? Yeah. Awesome. How long? How long? Who just that? Like

four days ago? Crushed the first season. I gave it a couple weeks ago. Yeah. I started. You gave it out

on here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. That's it was, it was, I knew it was like, I didn't remember. That's what I heard it. All right. I apologize. Hell of a show. It's dynamite. And like I said, I don't nothing about like British bank and all like the politics, but it's it's awesome show. Yeah. You jump in. Yeah. Good stuff. I really recommend it. Yeah. Uh, what else? What else? Anything else, boys? What'd you do last night? All right. What even doing every night? Um, like low key, man. Just been

chilling. My backs, uh, doing a lot better. I physical therapy has been working. I feeling much like, uh, myself. I could actually put my friends. White, my ass like a man once again. Oh, nice. You got to take it to pee. Um, but yeah, I've been moving around a little bit. Just yeah. Just been chilling, man. Just watching hockey and you know, relax. And then, oh, enjoy my new life. My new life has a single band and live it alone. All right, buddy. Great seeing you.

Everyone, please. Yeah. Um, if it's Friday morning right now, one o'clock, we got the game notes trade deadline extravaganza. And if you're not, if it's later, thank you so much to everyone, we will see you on Tuesday morning to recap everything. Okay, okay. A bad habit. One break it, but it's taking time. I don't know if don't let it's gone happen. It's going to happen again.

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