Short Stuff: All about BPAs

Guarantee the human.

“Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, I'm Joe.”

I'm Kevin.

And I'm Nick, and guess what?

We created our own podcast. Oh, hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our people to do podcasts.

We used to ask other people questions, because we're sick and tired of being an ask questions. Well, sick and tired of just a strong way to put it, but you know, tired and sick, tired and sick. Listen to hey, Jonas, on the "I Heart Radio App,"

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen, we don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, "Light Night Comedy Guy," not quite on humor me with Robert's "Michael" and "Friends." Me and hilarious guests from Bob Oden Creek

to David Letterman help make you funnier this week, my guess.

SNL's "Miky Day" and "Head Riders" street or side L helped

“an Occupella band with their "Between Songs" banter.”

Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Wasn't a humor me with Robert's "Michael" and "Friends" on the "I Heart Radio App," Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. [music playing] Hey, and welcome to the short stuff I'm Josh, and there's Chuck and Jerry sitting in for a day. So this is short stuff about the "Boware" of the "Boot P.A.'s.

That's right, we're talking about B.P.A.'s, specifically, well, B.P.A. which is, "How do you pronounce that Josh?" I'm going with B.P.N. all, or B.P.N. all. Hey, B.P.N. all, hey, there are other B.P.N. all, apparently, which I didn't know, and apparently, you know,

none of these are good for you, even though the FDA is like,

it's fine in the amounts that you're getting it. Stop being so uptight, everybody. Yeah, they're used in all sorts of plastics, polycarbonate, and particular, but that stuff shows up everywhere. It can be in the stuff that lines tinkans, it can be in your dental work,

it can be in contact lens storage containers, baby bottles used to be, I don't think it is anymore, but it was everywhere. It's also now still today the greatest exposure that people get on average is from holding receipts,

thermal paper receipts. Interesting. Those are coded with B.P.A. So just be aware of that, I saw a study that said just holding one for 10 seconds, expose you to unsafe levels of B.P.A. You know, many years ago when we lived in Los Angeles,

and it's a joke, Emily still laughs at to this day, 'cause it's just very me, very sardonically Chuck, was we left a blockbuster video, and it was like print, print, print, and they did that thing where there was a ticker tape of like three feet of receipts. Each, you know, connected by a little tiny piece of paper.

- Right. - And he handed them to me, and I just went, "Thank you for the receipts." And Emily thought that was the funniest thing ever, and she still says it to this day. - Yeah, I could see being in the right place,

in the right frame of mind, and just finding that awesome. - Yeah, like, really stone-edit blockbuster. - Sure. Do you remember what you rented? - Oh, no, no, no, who knows. But now that I don't feel so bad, now that I know that those things are loaded with B.P.A.

Is I don't want those? Am I pocket? - No, you don't. And the reason why we're even like talking about B.P.A. is all thanks to a geneticist named Dr. Patricia Hunt, who was studying the ovaries of mice, back in the late '90s, 1998. It was her jam.

She was not looking for B.P.A. She was not studying B.P.A at all, but B.P.A. came and found her, essentially. - Yeah, she saw these chromosomal errors start popping up. They went from 2% to 40% in these mice

that she was studying in the control group. And there was miscarriage, there were birth defects, and these little baby mice, it's all very sad.

“And she ran some more tests, and she was like, you know what?”

All of these cages in water bottles, that these mice are drinking out of, have B.P.A. in them. And I think that's where it's coming from. So she swapped that stuff out with non B.P.A. stuff. Everything returned to normal, and she was like,

I think I found something really bad here, everybody. - Yeah, she did. She also really started to examine what B.P.A. did, disrupted fetal development, the eggs of the fetus that had its development disrupted. That fetus is eventual babies.

Those were also disrupted as well. So yeah, she was like, I think something is really bad here, and what she turned up is that B.P.A. acts as an endocrine disruptor, meaning it mimics a hormone in our body, which does all sorts of stuff, because our hormones are very,

very well precisely timed, and you go over here and do this, you go over here and do that, and if something shows up on mass, and is like, we're going to do all of this at once, there's all sorts of catastrophic things that can happen to the human body.

what it really does is affect estrogen,

and estrogen has a huge effect on a lot of stuff.

“I think it can affect the behavior of more than 200 genes.”

And almost every organ and tissue in the body can be affected by estrogen. So this was a big deal. At the time, there were a lot of initial reactions of like, we're not sure how bad this stuff is for you.

We're not going to do anything right now, like the evidence is like not really conclusive, because we're not mice, and so we're not necessarily going to experience the same health effects. And again, these limits are like, the amount that we're getting

shouldn't harm, like, you know, children and adults. - Right. That was wrong. It turns out that the limits that we were being exposed to, or are considered very harmful now. But something weird, just the little thing to kind of put aside, it actually turns out that low doses of B.P.A.

have worse effects than larger doses of B.P.A. - Yeah, that's weird. I didn't see anywhere that that was explained. So I came up with my own explanation. It's three stages syndrome, which is how

remember Mr. Burns had every disease, but none of them were affecting him because they were all trying to get through the same door at once.

“I think that's what happens. When you have a bunch of B.P.A.”

They all get stuck trying to get to the same door at the same time, and it doesn't affect you like a little bit does, which can make it right through the door. - All right, Dr. Clark, we're going to take a break and ponder that, and we'll be right back with more on B.P.A.s.

Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. - What's the new news? - The new news. - We created our own podcast. - Oh, hey, Jonas, we invented a podcast.

- Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

- First, people to do podcasts.

- Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts, but this one's extra special. - So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? - I honestly don't remember. - I think it was on a call about what we should call it. - Oh, we were thinking, originally calling it

one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. - Well, this is how you guys remember it going down. - Yes, I have a very different memory of this. - We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. We could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I

broke down in my little note pad. Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title. - Oh, the podcast. - But thanks for remembering that, guys. - Listen to hey Jonas on the iHeart Radio App, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen, we don't care where you hear it. - Another podcast from some SNL Late Night Comedy Guide. Not quite on humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Oden Creek

to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and Headwriters, Streeter Side L helped an Occupella band with their Between Songs Banner. - Where does your group perform?

- We do some retirement homes. - Those people are starving for banter. - Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the iHeart Radio App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

(upbeat music) - I gotta say, I'm very impressed. - Thank you, but I feel like I should say I am not a doctor and you really shouldn't listen to me with any medical stuff whatsoever.

- But I called you a doctor. - How was it? - I'm a doctor. - All right, so in the United States, the FDA, who is in charge of regulating the BPA use, and in 2010, they did a four year review of BPA studies,

which resulted in 2014, basically saying, you know what, we're upholding our previous no-observe adverse effects, level, label, as long as you don't get more than five milligrams of body weight per kilogram of body weight per day. You'll be fine.

“- Yeah, and I think that that is level there.”

That most people are never exposed to, right?

- Well, that's what they say. I mean, we should talk about some of the things, though, I know you mentioned a few things, but let me see here. Type 2 diabetes, potentially in adults, insulin resistance, and children and adults, polycystic ovary syndrome, obesity,

and hypertension, and children and adults. - Yeah, a lot of terrible stuff. And again, this is not to mention like the preterm births, developmental abnormalities, all sorts of different stuff has to do with reproduction, breast cancer tumors.

Like all of these things, like it used to be like, like you said, we're not mice, and you know, that whole settled science B.S. that, like, the merchants have doubt used to put out like just shamelessly.

and it's effect on the human body, like you said,

“that's what comes up, it's obviously you can never prove anything”

like without a shadow of a doubt that's just how science works. But it's essentially to the point where you, the individual person can feel pretty good about not wanting BPA anywhere near you. - Yeah, for sure. Europe, of course, is leading the way in front of us.

In April, just a few years ago in 2023, they're FDA, which is the European Food Safety Authority, said, all right, we've seen the research. And I think they lowered their safe level a lot. I think to point to, what is that?

To point to nanograms, which is two billions of a gram, or point two billions of a gram per day for like, you know, a human body. So that's way lower than ours is. - Well, yeah, and it's even lower than what their previous one was. Their previous one was still way lower than ours.

So ours was five milligrams per kilogram. I think it's the same still. Their old one was four micrograms per kilogram of body weight. So now, their new revised safe level is 20,000 times lower than their own previous safe level.

10 billion trillion-ish times lower than ours, our safe level in the United States. And when the European Food Safety Authority, basically decided this, there were all sorts of like, like, you know, is this true, is this right?

You know, and of course, the industry was pushing back on it.

The only paper I found that was critical of it, an academic journal paper,

that was critical of their methods of data collection, I was like, funded this. That's funded by the American Chemistry Council. So it seems pretty, like, the EFSA has over the years, or since April 2023, continued to issue defences of its decision.

And not like, we decided, so it showed up, they're like, we decided, and here's why, we decided, here's all the data we did this on. So it seems pretty legitimate that they're like, this is way worse than we have been taking it,

and especially in the United States. Yeah, well, if you go to the FDA website, today, what's the date? April 30th, 2026. It says FDA's current perspective, based on a most recent safety assessment, is that BPA is safe at the current levels,

occurring in foods, based on FDA's ongoing safety review, scientific evidence, the available information, continues to support the safety of BPA for the currently approved uses and food containers and packaging. But if you don't buy that, then I don't, I don't think Dr. Josh does.

“You need to look for a label that says BPA free.”

That will indicate that the plastic does not have bis, uh, buy, uh, cheese. Bisphenol, is that what you said? You didn't. Bisphenol A, but like I said, it could have bisphenol F or bisphenol S,

or something else, and that may be just as risky. I don't, I don't know. Here's how you remember that. It's like a bisque made of polyphenol. There you go.

Oh, I love bisque, that's a shame. Um, yeah, so if you're like, okay, BPA free, great, give it to me. Uh, it turns out like you said, there's other bisphenols, bisphenol F and S are now uses substitutes.

They're not nearly as steady as BPA has been, but, um, essentially the studies that are coming back are like, yeah, just as bad as BPA does all the same things. Um, so if essentially the focus on BPA itself should have been expanded from the outset to bisphenols, not just BPA.

And so yeah, now there's BPA and, uh, BPS all over the place. And, um, if you think that you, what you have is BPA free, it probably still has bisphenols in it. I don't think just find something else. Well, they did, it's called glass,

but the problem is glass stainless steel containers,

they often come with plastic tops and lids, and you have to be careful with that too, because, um, even if the lids metal, it may still have a plastic liner on the top of it, and that probably has at least some sort of plastic associated with it that could be getting in whatever you're drinking out of it.

“Yeah, but do you have to have a bisphenol to have plastic at all?”

I don't know. I guarantee if you really looked into it, it's like half a cent less than what it was. Something safe. And that's your answer.

You know, yeah. One day, we're going to get their Chuck. I hope we're still alive to see it. But one day, we're going to get there, where people actually take care of other people.

And we all care about one another. We all act like we're going to get there. That's right, and in the meantime, you and I and every other member of the stuff you should normally

That's right.

Also in meantime, short stuff is out.

“Stuff you should know is a production of iHeart Radio.”

For more podcasts to my heart radio, visit the iHeart Radio app.

Apple podcasts are wherever you listen to your favorite shows. [BLANK_AUDIO]