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“Yeah, I'm going to start this one by telling a quick little story”
of last year I got in my Instagram feed for a little while these choirs, these choral singing groups that were-- it's kind of a thing now where it's not like, "Oh, we go to the church and it's an official choir." But like, hey, my friend has a warehouse space
and we can put a piano in it and just put out a call to see people want to show up and sing together. Like, "humanist choirs?" Is that what it's called? That's what I'm calling it.
Oh, okay, yeah, oh, just 'cause, yeah, humanists have said, "I got you." Yeah, exactly that. And, you know, they're doing like a cool radio head song or something like that, like, or whatever.
You know, Christmas music around the holidays. And, I was like, "You know what, man? I sang in a choir growing up in my church." And Emily and I both sang, she sang in Chocquire. And, like, we both got a lot out of those experiences.
And I haven't done it since I was a teenager and I was like, "Man, we got a piano." And I bet you, we could get a group together to come around and do this kind of thing. And I was, I still might do it this year,
but I never got around to it,
but it was something that was really kind of on my list. - So are you going to do it though, you think? - Well, I really want to do it. Okay, we'll do it. - Yeah, I do want to 'cause I think,
you know, I would be the facilitator, but I would get someone who's like, somebody's got to lead the show 'cause I can't do that, but I'll sing. And I'll put, you know, I'll provide the space
in the piano. - Okay, there you go. I think that's a good start. - I think it would be fun, like a neighborhood deal. And long way of sort of getting around to this idea
that they've kind of learned that singing is good for you and specifically singing together, like in a choir. - Right, yeah, that's a big thing. And Chuck, if you did get a choral group together, you guys would be the 250,000 and first chorus group
“in the United States, 'cause that's how many are in there.”
- Yeah, something like almost 29 million people
regularly sing in a choral group. And in the United States, and it's the most popular of all arts-related participatory activities. - Yeah.
- It's more popular than cross-country painting and charades leads combined. (laughs) - You know, interestingly, I saw a study the other day where they found one participatory activity
that helps stay off dementia more than any other and it was dance. - Oh, I believe that. - Yeah, 'cause the movement and all the benefits of doing a participatory activity
plus the benefits of the exercise and everything, but it was something about dance that and it was like kind of off the charts and like how good it was for you to do as you age. - Sure.
- Good troubles, come on, get happy. (laughs) - All right, so let's talk about singing, though, because like if you get together with a choir, obviously everyone there is probably going
'cause they like to sing and they're probably pretty good at singing, but you can just go to your local karaoke bar as evidence that like people love to sing who can't sing at all sometimes
and they will do that in front of people and people will like still watch that and be interested. - For sure, yeah, people will watch other people who can't sing, sing. - Yeah.
- And then people who can't sing will sing in front of other people and still good about it. Like Cherioki is a great example of the fact that this exists, there's something about singing, including singing in front of other people
that actually does give you a positive vibe. - Yeah. - So you said something, though. I mean, like you can sing at home in the shower, you can sing at home on the couch.
You can sing at home in the kitchen.
- Sing in the car, for sure.
- Sing in the car. You could sing in the laundry room. (laughs)
“Like you can sing basically anywhere by yourself.”
- And yes, there are benefits as we'll see, but because there's something about singing in the group as we'll kind of unpack, it just provides greater benefits. But if you do sing in your laundry room, you're still going to get some benefits from it.
But if you've got a group of people to sing with you in your laundry room, you would be doing really good. - For sure, good time for break. - Yeah.
- All right, we're gonna talk about what those benefits are 'cause they seem kind of mysterious, right after this. ♪ If you wanna know then you're in luck ♪ ♪ Just listen up ♪ ♪ To touch and talk ♪
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♪ Stuff you should know ♪ - All right, so like you mentioned before, the break, all types of singing is good for you, we found.
It releases endorphins, which is always great.
If you're singing in front of people, it's gonna, you know, build your confidence. Like, I've seen some not very good singers at karaoke, just like, still kind of kill it and walk out of there, like, clearly kind of brimming
with confidence, which is gonna have a great effect on your life and well-being. - For sure, but like I said, singing with a group, choral singing has the most dramatic effects and there's actually some studies that have shown this.
Apparently in Australian 2008, a study looked at choral singers and said, "Hey, how satisfied are you with your life?" And they said, "Really satisfied?" So satisfied that if you compare to us to the average person from the general public,
we're more satisfied with our life. They're like, "Well, wait a minute, "what if we control for all these differences "and the only difference is these people sing "and the rest of the people don't,
"well, that's still hold true? "Yes, it will." - That's right, that's Australia. They said, "Yes, and not narrow." - And I mean, Australians are generally happy
on a whole compared to other groups. - No, I totally agree that we're doing it. - So like Australian choral singers, through the roof happy, they can't stop smiling. - Yeah, and in fact, I'm gonna start saying that,
I'm gonna say, "Man, they were as happy "as an Australian choral singer." - That's agree. - That's agree. (laughs) - In 1998, there was another study
that found after nursing home residents were active in a singing program for a month. There were big time decreases in both anxiety and depression levels. And a study in England, 600 British choral singers
found that singing plays a central role in their psychological health. Like people get a lot out of it. - Right, and that would have included Ireland and Wales. That's right, actually, that didn't look too deeply
into that one, but yeah, if it's had British, then for sure. - Sure. So some of the physical effects, though, it actually does like, we've been talking mostly
about well-being and we'll talk a little more about that, but physically speaking, singing has a great effect on your body. It's essentially an aerobic exercise because of the way you're breathing.
- Yeah. - You're getting more oxygen in your blood that improves your circulation. Good circulation makes you happy. I've seen that it's prescribed.
Singing is prescribed to people who are
going through long rehab for some sort of lung issue.
“And there's also like, you need to breathe deeply.”
So you're spending an hour or so like a week breathing deeply. That's essentially one of the main parts of meditation and relaxation techniques is deep, you know, controlled breathing, singing in a choir requires you to do that. - Yeah, for sure.
I remember talking, oh, when was that? I guess it was some time light last year, when, or I guess early last year, when I was very upset a lot about politics,
not like I am now, which is like just super stoked all the time. - Right. - But I remember talking about sing therapy and that's what I did for a little while.
I would put on my piano as a little player piano
so I would put that on and I would sing as hard as I could sing and it really, really felt good and made a big difference in how I felt. - What were you singing? - Whatever, a lot of Billy Joel.
- Oh, that's great. - No, like I was singing whatever you could really belt out, you know. - Okay, I think that's wonderful that you did that for yourself, man. - Yeah, it was fun.
- So one of the things that you could have also done since you probably know every word to every Billy Joel song, you could have learned some new songs, right? - Sure.
- And had you done that? - I've been singing your brain, which is another benefit of singing, especially in the group. You have to learn new stuff every week. - Yeah, for sure.
And if you're learning things and if you're concentrating, like, all right, I got to work out my alto part on this thing, I'm a tenor actually. Work on your tenor part and then when you get together with your little choir or a big choir and, you know, like,
all right, I got to remember my part here where I come in, like, that's what you're thinking of. That's what's on your mind. You're not thinking of the stress at work or the stress at home or the stress
in your life or your health stress. Like, it's your chance to park that stuff and really dwell on something else for a while. - Right.
And then we finally arrive at one of the big reasons why,
probably the biggest reason why singing and a choir actually has the most benefits of any kind of singing is because you are becoming part of a group. Like, if you've ever been a member of any kind of choir, like, that's a fairly tight group.
Everybody knows one another. You're required to rely on one another. Like, you are needed at by this group. Your voice is needed, your part is needed. Like, there's a sense of belonging
and inclusion that comes from being a member of a choir. And then on top of that, adding in all of the benefits of singing, again, like, this is, it's just really good for you. - Yeah, it's amazing.
“When we were, I think I told you this backstage,”
but when we were in Madison, I went a day early and I woke up the next morning and I was, my hotel was kind of right on the water. So I had the windows open and because I could hear the water gently laughing
and it sounded really nice. But I heard singing and I was like, like, group singing. And I was like, where is that coming from? And I went and looked out of my window and it turns out that in the hotel,
there was a choral festival going on. So there were a bunch of choir staying there and there was a group of young people. Like, probably 20 of them on a dock on a pier singing radio head song and it was the most lovely thing
I had ever heard. You can't imagine a better way to sort of start your morning than just by hearing that. - In reality, though, backstage everybody, he told me that he shouted, "Pipe down!"
- Right. - It was windows shut up, kids. - That's cool, man. - It was great. It was so, so lovely.
- Great. Well, I think since we ended that on a high note from when it chucks good memories, good recent memories from our visit to Madison, it means short stuff is out. (upbeat music)
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