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Half-Baked Ideas With Kevin Wildes. Plus: The Masters, ‘The Pitt’, Coachella, and ‘Love Story’ With Nathan Hubbard and Joanna Robinson.

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Kevin Wildes to present another set of Half-Baked Ideas (7:57). Then, Nathan Hubbard comes on to discuss the biggest story lines ahead of the Masters and Coachel...

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We are also presented by the ringer podcast network where I put up a new rewatchables on Monday. We did Eddie and the Cruisers.

It was a one for us coming off CR month.

It was me and Chris Ryan and Van Lathen. All of us are headed to San Francisco to do a live show with him, basic instinct. On Wednesday night, we'll see if Mallory could make it through without doing like whatever happened with Jim Morrison and Miami when he had offended the obscenity laws or whatever he did.

Hopefully we can get through it intact coming up on this podcast. We have, listen, it was a great order that could have gone in any direction starting with Kevin Wildes doing half-baked ideas, talking a little basketball as well. Nathan Hubbard is going to come on and talk about the masters and cachella and then I hadn't talked TV in a while, so Joanna Robinson is on, we're going to talk about the pit, which

I finally jumped into and binge watched and I have a lot of thoughts, we're going to talk

about love story and we're going to talk about a bunch of Apple shows. So that is the podcast. So we have half-baked basketball, golf, cachella, TV, it's pretty good. Pretty eclectic, a couple of basketball things from last night, really quick. Jim, I thought it was a pretty, pretty lame march madness other than that.

Yukana, the buzzer reader coming back against Duke, the woman's tournament, the most fun thing that happened in the whole woman's final four, which I really enjoy with the games, you know, we couldn't really get there with the games, but the most fun thing was Gina, for some reason, just losing his mind with Don Staley and then it seemed like Don Staley was going to kick his ass.

I love that. I think Don Staley punching Gina would have been the highlight of 2026,

sadly it didn't happen, but that was probably the highlight of that. Then the men's, it was fine, you know, the Michigan UConn game, it was threatening to

become good for a while, it never really 100% got there.

Every time I felt like Yukana was going to do the UConn thing, something they'd misalay up or Michigan would hit a three, I was very happy for my brother, J. Lam Rose, congrats to him. And then, I don't know, in 2026, you're going to look back at that tournament and probably just remember the UConn, Duke game and be like who won, oh yeah, Michigan. I know a lot of Michigan people, they're all very excited between this and what's happened

with the football this decade. Maybe it's like a small glass to settle down juice for the Michigan fans, don't turn people against you. Big picture NBA was, we had a Wemby injury last night that I assume he's going to come back and play one more game, but it did kind of break my brain for a second because if he doesn't get the 65th game, it throws a whole bunch of stuff out of whack included to fence a pair of the year, which I don't think anybody

has spent one minute thinking about. The big game that happened last night, though, was Denver versus Portland, where Denver is basically could lock down the three seed pretty much by winning because the lakers are going backwards. And Portland's up 18 on them in the fourth quarter. Portland is, I think at 1.24 for 46 from three years, they were just flames or coming out of there, but they're just making everything. And Denver's hanging around

hanging around because they're so good offensively now that Aaron Gordon's back. You kind of can't give up on a Denver game. So what happens? They come back. They force over time. They really could have won a regulation, no coach, miss like an eight footer. And then they end up winning in overtime. And it was just an awesome, awesome home when Aaron Gordon was huge. And once again, it's what we talked about on Sunday, like watch out for the

nuggets. I don't think yo kitchens MVP cases dead. I don't. Michael Pina went on Zaclo's podcast on Thursday and and then wrote a piece for the ringer on Monday saying, I'm voting for yo kidge. And I really got to look at this over the next five days because you're

supposed to treat each season individually. And the truth is, if you just look at yo kitchens

numbers and the fact that they're now up to a three seed. And I really think you have to be a

top three seed or one of the, have one of the five best records in the league to really seriously be considered front VP in less it's like 2006 when I pick Kobe that year that really wasn't a candidate. We've awesome candidates this year. But this yo kidge season, it's the most special offensive season he's ever had. It's one of the great offensive seasons. Anyone's ever had in the history of the league. They're going to be a three seed and probably win 54 55 games

wherever they land. But a lot of obstacles. Aaron Gordon missed over half the year. Christian Brown missed half the year. They when corporate and a bunch of new guys, they had really bad luck at the end of games. Like a lot of games that they just blew and should have won. And the case

For for Shay is a little different because they have the best record in the l...

Shay has been the best crunch time guy in the league. But I, even though Jalen Williams was

out and they had some other guys bouncing it out. That team is just a bunch of dragons. Like,

you know, every night they have 11 guys that can throw out there that would be the envy of almost every other team of the league. So right now on Tuesday, I still feel like I'm voting for Shay. But, you know, over the weekend I started to look at when be a little more seriously. And the minutes thing I can't get past. But from an impact standpoint, I was like fuck. It's hard to imagine more impactful guy these last two months. And Yokeage beats him on Saturday. Yokeage again yesterday

with another like ridiculous. He said five of like the nine most ridiculous games of the year. So I'm just my point is I haven't crossed him off as an MVP pick yet. And one of the things I want to look at the last five days here is really diving into stuff like if you split the two guys, which team would be better, who had an easier scenario? Who had the most memorable season? Because I think that matters too. When you think, I have the narrative about the MVP. I had the four

questions I was asked myself. And one of them is like, what are you going to remember first about this season?

I think you'd have a case for remembering when be first this season because just watching him

blossom into this generational alien and watching the spurs rip off winds like they might be the first thing you remember. But Yokeage would be probably one of the next two things and so it's GA. So it's just it's a complicated one. It's really hard. I want to make sure I get it right. But I just have not ruled out Yokeage. So I wanted to make that point. All right. We're going to take a break. We're going to bring in ProJep and then Kevin wants. The Bill Simmons podcast is brought to you by

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well, my game probably caught 1-800 game bar call 88-789-777 or visit ccpg.org/check that again. All right. My friend Kevin Wilde is here. He's been coming on since 2008-2009 range of my podcast to do half-paked ideas. You can watch him on first things first with Nick Wright, Chris Bursart, on FS1. Last time you were on, we came up with two different ideas. One involved the tower for food but then the one about playing credit card roulette and that would just be the gimmick

of an actual restaurant. Dave Chang said he would fund that right now.

Let's go. Yeah. He said credit card roulette. I'm in. Can we franchise this and then I never heard

from him again. But he was excited for for 10 minutes. So you come on. You do have baked ideas. These are not fully baked ideas. Normally we talk sports ahead of time, but I have a lot of stuff. You have a lot of stuff. I have a meal bag questions. Oh, then I get to answer. Yeah. That's my dream to have this become like a shark tank episode. I can judge. I have baked ideas. Yeah. It's too baked. It's too good. I'm like that's just an idea.

I have six of them that I can tell you as well. But why don't you go? Give us your starter. Give us a bit of fitter. It's a little bit of sports just to prime the wheels.

First off, Lucas going to Spain to get his hamstring checked out. Austin Reeves staying here.

So automatically you got to look at Austin like why aren't you going to Spain? Look, do you not do not care? I'm headed to Spain. I don't know why. It seems it's Spain is nice this time of year. I'd go to Spain. But maybe Austin, whatever he's got commitments here. I'm not 100% sure how consulates work. Where are I? I know the embassies work. If you're

in the embassy in France, you're actually in the USA, I think, in the United States embassy? Yeah.

Could there be some embassy adjacent doctor's office? Maybe exclusively for athletes who need

Timely European medical procedures domestically.

wherever that is, it's in the platelets there. Yes. Get your platelets spawn right here.

I don't need to go to Germany. Also, the answer to the FDA would say this is not how it works.

I would try to say it was eco-friendly. Save on fuel prices nowadays. It's an eco-friendly way to get global medicine. Maybe it's just an athlete carve-out thing. So you don't have to go all the way to Spain. Luca can stay here, go to the meetings, what's going on? That's the idea. I really love this. We have the Canadian embassy is kind of further away, but in my neighborhood,

but it's a big, big, big place that I've always been fascinated by. It's just huge.

I was wondering what happens there, whether like when hockey players are in town playing the kings, they just get to drop by the Canadian embassy. Yeah, have a little bats in just hang out. Just what happens is it like the masters, where they have that cool lounge, that all the masters players can play at, you're just going to have some drinks and food. Like, do they have that at the Canadian embassy? I don't know. I've never been to an embassy.

That doesn't sound like you have either. No, the other option. And again, this needs more research. This is why it's have big. There's a certain amount of distance you can get from the coastline, where you're just in international waters. So you can have more of like a floating

boat that you can go out to. If you don't want to, but again, that's pretty far. And I think

with the with the waves, it might not be good for your hamstring unless it's a huge aircraft. So you're talking about like those, like they'll have those gambling boats in the south. Yeah, you go off the coast and all of a sudden you can gamble legally once. Yeah, no one knows what the jurisdiction is. Like, yeah, we're actually doing Spanish medicine here. There's top of us. It's a nice vibe for Lucas. You're going to go all the way to Spain. That's like the

number one. I always thought that would have been a great Stephen Sigal movie in the 90s. I

wish Kyle Brown could just pop in for two minutes. He's working on one of those gambling boats in Louisiana. It's like off the coast. But meanwhile, it's about to be one of the, he's like a disgraced used to be an agreement parade. Now he's like disgraced. He's like a black jacked deal or one of those things. But they're about to ocean's 11, the big gambling boat. And thank God he's there as a black jacked deal. Because then you would also get Vegas hands

and he'd be feeling out the guys as they do the hands in the first 30 minutes of the movie. So I don't like, I don't like how these guys are communicating. So I'm going to funk you with these guys. Can I add something to it? Yeah. Do you do our yellow stone? Of course. Okay. You know where they dump the bodies at Yellowstone. Oh, yeah. There's no jersey. It's a little bit of that. So you just to call us trying to play by the rules. He calls the sheriff. You like, that's not my

jurisdiction calls the other sheriff. Hey, you're on your own, man. We don't touch that. What? There's no authorities here. I have to do it all by myself. It's over a die hard situation cops can't control it. So do you think the embassy works that way? Because I don't think it might for all we know.

I think anything go there. I mean, I think you're just under the rules of your own country.

But again, this is why it's not safe. I think if I do a certain amount of research, it just becomes really a bad idea. So I stop at one point and just keep it happy. It would be one of my favorite things that Trump could just come off the top rope and get involved with where he gets upset that our athletes are flying overseas to get medical treatment and he just decides you'll actually. I'm just seeing it laterally. Whatever is fair there is fair here. And then

all of the sudden athletic performance just sky brackets in America. Out of that idea. All right. Number two, this is a, I see that you're you're walking a lot. You're still into walking

for a whole sense COVID. Okay. Do you go anywhere? Sometimes yes, but it's always has to be some sort of

circuitous route back. Okay. Yeah. I know you don't live that you don't just, you know, run away. Well, times the couple times we've walked, it was like a special walk, but we walked all the way to the Santa Monica pair, which I would recommend. Very long walk. That's that's too far. Yeah. Okay. So last night it went to a Easter brunch. I was just going hard at the Easter brunch. Several desserts, blueberry cheesecake. I had a carrot cake. I had a lot of land with the mint jelly.

It's going hard. Come home about six o'clock. I like I should go for a run. And it's Sunday. I'm supposed to be on this running program. So I have to run about six miles. Usually I like to run two somewhere. Go get a coffee. It's like a nice little break point or, you know, I have some destination. Right. Everything's closed on Sunday. It's late Sunday and it's Easter.

I've got nowhere to run.

I had some sort of goal. I'm calling this Uber health. You call you, you call Uber or yeah,

it's just a plan. I just enter in my plan in the Uber algorithm takes care of it. Someone comes and gets either my remote control or my car keys. And it's aligned with my performance plan on Strava. And they drop it off for miles away. And like, hey, here's the pin. We dropped it off at the Santa Monica pair. If you want your car keys, you've got to go get it. And you sign up for it. So every day, oh, I don't feel like running. I'm just going to, you know,

we have to run and get your car. Yeah, you're stuck. You have, you have to be motivated to get out,

because Uber health has dropped something off for miles from me. And there's a discount because it's promoting good health. It's promoting people staying in shape and trying to better themselves. Yes, I don't know who's paying for that. Again, maybe it's a government thing. If you want to, you could, of course, call a friend, which then combats epidemic mail loneliness. So that's good too. You're just a huge epidemic right now. You have Nick Wright. You don't have to worry

about mail loneliness, because you have a best friend. I know what people are being paid to talk to me, but outside of that, I'm just, you know, mail loneliness is just an epidemic. Have you, have you hashed out the Nick Wright thing properly with Jacobi? No, I don't even know what you're talking about. Well, I think he felt like he was your buddy and now Nick Wright's your buddy and I don't know, Jacobi's grandfathered in, though. Okay, I just wanted to make sure you guys are good.

And that's a good thing for a guy. Of course. Yes. Again, and again, I really need more friends that, again, aren't being paid to spend time with me since Jacobi and I were co-workers for you, you did, I mean, dozen years. Do you think there's a fixed amount of total time you can spend with another mail friend before you basically just run out? Because I haven't run out with how well, I've spent so much time with house and I just feel like what, like we're like LeBron now,

we're LeBron's like, is it going to play 24 seasons? Why not? No, I think you, I think

I think my relationships are so succinct that, yeah, there's plenty of runway. Well,

plus you have the Irish goodbye, so people you always leave them wanting more, you're the master

of the Irish goodbye. And now it's weird. It's just we're like, added dinner. I'll just drop my credit card in my face. And Irish goodbye friend, her friend, meaks. And it's like a known thing. And she kind of like, where is it, like, as a badge of honor? Is it only in far situations? Because I, it's like, it's like gatherings. It's when they're all together. It's when the, like, somebody's birthday party. And it's kind of like a known thing now that she's going to do it. I think the whole

world would be better off if we did it. I, Irish goodbye, like, my son's basketball game is my wife and I are there. It doesn't. Hello, sir, great. Goodbyes are terrible. That's a great, goodbyes are terrible.

It's great. Hey, you, hey, but you don't need to say goodbye. Can I give you a mailback one?

Can I give you a quick thing on, hello, this is maybe a little Larry Davidish. Hello's have gone hugs and and big bounds and like, oh my God. It's like, hey, what's up? I was just just one fist bump. I'm good. A solid old school hand shape. We're way more connected than we were in like the 80s and 90s because now we have texts and FaceTime. There's all these different ways you can stay. But if people, like, now you first time, you see, oh, what's up? Like, you know,

yeah, more informative. A little bit. Can I give you a, I'm going to interspers some mailback questions between to break up your half-pakes. This is from Megan in summerville. Megan. She sent this on March 4th and wanted to wish a happy international woman stayed on our fellow female listeners. But now it's April 6th. She lives near Harvard had this half-paked idea that when LeBron retired, he should get to do some sort of back-to-school thing because

he never went to college. He went right to the pros. Could you do your career in reverse?

She said, it's not fully fleshed out. I don't know if it's reality to be documentary or a horrible scripted movie. What school would he go to? Harvard probably would allow, but Ohio State would. And then I started thinking, like, is that, is that like the Rodney Dangerfield movie? Is that the updated remake of Rodney? It's like the one of the best NBA players of all time retirees, but then goes to college for one more year, Rodney Dangerfield style. And he's rich. Yeah. There's

like Billy Madison style. Yeah, there's something here. Is he playing basketball? I don't, I think initially he's not playing, but then there's some injuries on the team. And he really likes

The coach.

a sports movie. I mean, sports movie across the back-to-school. He's got to be so old though. That's the

problem. Like he's like 44. But he's not old enough. He would not, like it works. I think a little

bit better with Carmelo and Syracuse, Jerry McNamara's the coach. Oh, and he still has the three years of eligibility left. There you go. His buddy, his buddy is can't get any recruits. It's like, and he's like, and then all of a sudden, it's like, Jerry, we need you a final game. Like, Jerry, he's got his, he's had his uniform under it. Yeah. But I think LeBron is still, he's too famous. Okay. No, not these two famous. He's too good at basketball at this point. Like LeBron would still be

me as a super obvious. But it's insane. The number one draft pick. Right here. So maybe it's,

maybe it's Chris Paul. Chris Paul's group. Chris Paul never had an end. Chris Paul went for it.

He's going back to wake for us for unfinished business. I love that idea. I feel like everybody would

come to his party, too. I'm like at the Quippers. They're like all the kids who want to go. They're

back. You're going to Chris Paul's house today and everybody's excited for it. I like that a lot. All right. What's your next happy? This one's great. This one is great. And this is almost so good. It's probably a real idea, which means it's a bad, happy idea. Here's the scene. I'll just say, I'm the main character at this point. I gather up all of the parents in town, all the sports parents, me and my team of coaches. And I say, look, you want to be involved in my program. So let's say

it's basketball. I'll tell you right now, there's zero chance your kid is going pro. And then my buddy comes out and he comes in from right from my left. He says, there's zero chance your kid's going D1. Then the other guy or D2, like they'd be lucky to go D3. And then comes back.

It comes back to me. We're here to do one thing and one thing only to turn your child into an

intermirral champion. The full train. The whole program is designed to train intermirral champions at my Easter brunch. Yeah. The family friend, son, is playing beer league hockey. He played hockey throughout his whole career. Like, yeah, this is like, arms the end game is to have a bunch of, again, male loneliness guy, friends playing beer league hockey. So it's in the, in the avenue towards beer league hockey. He's probably different than the avenue towards the NHL. The

avenue towards intermirral champion is different than trying to go to the NHL. You don't need to learn a bunch of stuff. You just need to learn stuff that's going to work to win intermirals. And guess what, if you're the intermirral champion, you don't feel as good as an NBA champion. Obviously, there's no financial rewards or not, Richard Famous. But when you're a holden, you are the champion of that day on that basketball court. There's only happiness only goes up

so high and you are there. So as part of the program, you teach the kids how to play flag football, while they're also having a couple beers. Yes. We had to compete when you're really hung over from the night before and you have an eight o'clock fast bug game. I can't. So I'm trying, I need probably a real trainer to tell me what moves you don't need. But like, I'm playing chess and there's chess openings that you can learn that if you master this chess opening,

you can get to a certain level. You can get to whatever, 1200. But after 1200, your opening is no longer that is just easily awarded. So I'm just going to teach the kids,

like, right here, this move works in intermirral. You will never work again. It won't work in

D3 College of Ascle. But intermirals, this thing is great. This spin move is great. This little, like slow Euro step is great. I don't know if the moves are. So baseball instead of teaching kids, all these kids who think they're. We're going to play Cooper's Town for Little League when I'm 12 and then I'm going to go play bet and then I'm going to play college baseball and say, no, no, no. Let me teach you how to be a softball slow pitch pitcher right now. Let's start working

on this right. Yeah. Let's start working. You can do like a thousand of these a day. You kind of spin up in the air. You're going to be like a machine. You're going to be great. And you will have a,

you will have a 30 year career, never make a dollar. But you'll be great in your town. People talk

about you. You'll 30 or sometimes it can be 40. And then if you're in Chicago, you learn how to play without the gloves. What? Right. Like in Roblo and about last night, they would play the softball,

No gloves.

I think they don't pretty sure softball gloves. And she's like, no gloves. There's no glove. I have

no clue. I know I did. It was thing. I've met plenty of people from Chicago. It's never come up.

Maybe it was the thing in the 80s and they got rid of it after too many people broke their heads. I got it. Yeah. What? Another mistake. They're played softball. No gloves. Hey,

where's Brian? Broke his thumbs. Oh, yeah. Again. What do you think about these gloves?

Yeah. It's a reason we have them. Nope. Nope. We're in Chicago. Yeah, Chicago. Better men. They're eating sausages, drinking heavy beer and playing softball. Not even a myth. No, what? No, watch the movie. First seen in the end scene, or both softball and no gloves. Not even a handball myth. Nothing. Nothing at all. No, no, no. All right. I really like that one. I like setting the expectations early and just having lived through it with both of my kids and

watching all the parents and how much time and money is spent on these travel teams and all this stuff. And happiness is being the champion and being happy is not just for the pros. Someone's got to be the intermereal champion. It'll work. All right. Can you have another one? I've got a very fast one, literally. We'll go. Give me the happy one and they'll go fast. This is a this is almost fully baked, but it's from Marcus Reed and it's about how much time he

listened to the made up NBA awards pod Zack and I did last night. And everybody loves awards. It's the premise. We love MVP. Or like Rookie of the Year, we get all this podcast content out of it. He thinks that how we have in the Oscars lead actor and supporting actor,

that there should be a supporting actor MVP, basically the Scotty Pippin Award for the best

number two of the season. And I was thinking about this. And I was like, well, that's a dumb idea. And then I was thinking, I blew the bargain about this on seven podcasts that, no, no,

it's actually stifong castle. I love this. I think it's pretty good because the whole point of

these awards is you're trying to measure blueprint. So I almost think that's two good of an idea for a half baked. That's like a fully baked just should be an idea. Yeah, is it is it name the Scotty Pippin Award? He named it the Scotty Pippin Award, which would be great because Scotty is confident seems to kind of come and go depending on whether somebody told them that they love the last dance that week. If he had his own Scotty Pippin Award, maybe he could let the last dance go.

But we have like, you know, the Cut McHale where the Scotty Pippin people like that, but then you think like this year, there would be an also funny outcome of the Celtics one that title again and it was the final MVP conversation, but then there's also the Scotty Pippin Award. And maybe the same guy could win most of the votes for both. I don't know. It just feels like there's a lot of one. Who would win yours? The only weird thing about the Scotty

Pippin Award is like I would. So I think this year, Jamal Murray would have won. Okay, but then with Aaron Gord, okay, then you might as well just go all the way, just make like a Tony Koukoch third man award. Like the Chris Bosch award. I'm sorry. Not against it. That's more carpet for us. Yeah, best third guy. If you have six, six, we'd best, it was the fourth guy. Let's keep going. I'm the best fifth guy. I was not six was was absurd.

Because I'm great. I'm the best fifth guy. So if I was a little bit worse, I mean, I know it's different. What is six man? I don't love the six because we did one of the awards we had last night was the 20 minutes a game or less award, which is the true bench guy. Oh, you're basically

coming in. You're playing 10 minutes or less each half. And you have to have an impact. So who

that? So we said it was Jenkins. I'm Detroit because he's not a lot of minutes, but then if you have to start them for 12 games, he can actually come in the Vinnie Johnson micro award. We have to take a quick break and then we're going to come back more after I like that. The Bill Simmons podcast presented by Fandel the most prestigious tournament in golf. You know, it is is returning to Augusta.

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Had to go get tires for my car. They're like the cars heavy any new tires. And like how much is that?

And how long are like we got to order the tires? Oh, I don't know. I see tires all over the place. So not here. Like no, you got to get different tires. We got to bring them in. It was like a day and a half process to get these tires. Not the biggest problem in the world. That being said, especially with phones. You can just sit in those uncomfortable chairs to interact it off. Look,

the stuff in your ass. Yeah. That being said, I then we also went to Daytona for the show.

And a lot of it is the pit stop. And in 10 seconds, a NASCAR will get four new tires and a tank of gas in 10 seconds. And I'm not saying you would do this all the time. But it would be a fun option to have a NASCAR mechanic shop just even for the experience. Oh, you need new. Oh, yeah, I need new tires and tank of gas. And you pull off and you're done in 10 seconds. But hey, five times. But whatever. But even it's a great experience. It's a great experience.

And you've got the person with the flag and they wave it. And there's enough of a runway that you can just speed out with four new tires. It's, look, it's not, you're like, well, it's going

to be too popular with 10 seconds. It's six cars. I mean, I have to get it. It's six cars a minute.

So we're doing 360 cars in an hour. How long can you possibly wait? You get, you put it on the app for the NASCAR pit stop. Oh, honey, where's my time for the car? Oh, I've got to bring it in at nine, uh, 10 and 40 seconds. What am I doing? You're there. And then speed out. Yeah, so you don't have to pay way more for the mechanics. But the flip side would be you're destroying every other tire change or place. In the time of all the business. And look, I'm not, I don't think this idea

would land on deaf ears at the NASCAR executive offices as just a marketing sponsored

code. But where you go? The NASCAR. Yeah. Well, my cousin said, how important are the tire new tires?

That's really good. Maybe, and we look, we're not getting the best of the best because obviously those guys will be at NASCAR. So it might take 14 seconds. But if it's over 18 seconds, you get your money back. You know, at the name of the places. Pits up. Well, yeah, that works. So you're going to pit stop later? Yeah, I'm going at 9 13 and 32 seconds. Oh, that's great. I'll see. Oh, I'll just miss you. I'm going at 15 seconds. I'm there. I'm there, I'm there.

Nice. Well, almost exactly the same time. All right. What's next? Let's do this one. Okay. Well, you're going to want to, you want a food one or do you want to sports one? Come on, both. Let's let's do the food one. Did the Easter egg hunt? I have a food one that I can follow up your food one with. Okay. The Easter egg hunt. We did the Easter egg hunt yesterday. Yeah. Kids are a little bit older, but it's just still fun. So they ran around. They found the eggs in the house and they're like,

all right, they were a little bit mad that kids don't like change anymore. Yeah. I was a huge fan. I thought a quarter of an egg. I was thrilled. Found a starburst in the egg. Great. We didn't, they don't want change. So I threw a silver dollar one of the eggs. That wasn't even a big hit. We didn't have any one dollar bills. We had a few starbursts. There was a handful of empty eggs and they were mad about it. So they were like, you wouldn't like find an empty eggs. I'm like,

I would. So then they hit, they hit the eggs for me and Libby and then we went around, hunt the eggs. And we had a blast. Hmm. And it was one part like they wanted to go get the eggs to find the food.

And I think it hits on some very primal hunter gatherer part of our brain. Yeah. I actually want

to go find the food, even a big shopping, a big grocery store. Oh, I got to go all the way over there. I liked, I don't need everything delivered to me. So it's a restaurant in a large park. And you get a plate like a buffet plate, but it looks like you're just in a park. And of course, there's natural things you can forward. Okay. Where there's lettuce planted and stuff like that. But there'll also be some just real dishes out there if you want, but there's only one or two of them.

Like, oh, you want the, you want the filet.

you want the Caesar salad. And it's either there's two ways to go. Survivor. Yeah. So it's,

but, and it's either, I can't tell if it's better if it's just like golfing. And we're just,

it's a buffet in, you know, central par. Oh, look at that. You want to grab that. And we're just walking around with our plates. Or it's more hungry. Holy shit. It's called the Hunger Games. Hunger Games. You did it. You walked right into it. Or we're just like, we're in three point stances. And we're screaming out of the gates to try to find the shrimp cocktail. Then you, you take it to another level. It's televised. And you also have celebrity, celebrity chefs.

Yeah. Oh my god. You can't make his slow roasted, whatever. And where's that? I got to find that. Look, you're just running around. Yeah. And if anybody's, Dave Changs and camouflage, he's in like one of those hunting blinds. Yeah. It's like a little bit of like paintball.

I think it would be fun. That's really good. I feel like people between ages 15 and 18 would go

to that as like the same way they go to escape rooms. Yeah. Oh, we're going to the Hunger Games tonight. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh, it's pizza night. Oh, he found a pizza. So good.

This is at this food one is from a listener named Brian Angel who wants basically Uber eats for

your emotional sports state. Great. Example, you're a Boston fan. You sign up for the service. The paths when the AFC championship game doorbell rings right after the clock hit zero. You open the door. City on your porch, a bottle of champagne and some cigars. Or they lose like in the Super Bowl. I don't know if you remember when we bought it in the game is over in like five minutes. Yeah. Doorbell rings on your porch is a bottle of tequila ice cream and the 2018 Patriots

championship DVD. And then during the summer, like with a shitty Red Sox season, like we have now, it's a monthly delivery. Almost like when you join a wine club, it's just more beer and booze and sadness. So anyway, half-baked is his thing. Uber is for your emotional state. I think something there. It's not bad. I think it's a solid idea. You could probably get the algorithm to start following people's Facebook feeds too and just let it open up beyond sports as well.

The problem is, well, if you're in Buffalo and Cleveland places like that that you know there's

going to be sadness. It would be ways here to stock up on the sad items when we get to like a

Josh Allen playoff game. So the caveat, the only thing I would add and as long as this is an option,

I would like to select sometimes in these Patriots, losses. Do you want to feel better or worse? I would click worse a few times. I want to just wallow in it a little bit. Yeah. So I would say, oh, Mike, if we lose to the bills, I'd like to feel worse, uh, here comes a plate of Buffalo wings fresh from the famous Buffalo wings, but you can have a good experience with Buffalo. But it opens it up and it's like, ah, you stink in like your table breaks, somehow they

I like to wallow in it a little bit more. All right, what's your next one? I don't know. Oh, this one's not bad. Did you get no OBJ had a great catch in the flag football fanatics fest with a pros loss to our USA flag team. And the same as the elderly have to retake their drivers tests, or at least they should have to. Some of the older veterans have to go to the combine to just show what actual pros look like in the combine. So I'll see not just to not just a

pro day, like not just a private workout with OBJ, but like, hey, oh, wow, this wide receiver looks good. Well, how does OBJ who is supposedly washed air quotes? How does he look? Wow, look at Fernando Mendosa. He completed 35 at 37 passes. Like, all right, but how does you know, Spencer Rattler throw the ball? How does, how does, who's I'm trying to think of uh, Kenny Pickett? Does he look like Kenny Pickett? I need some sort of baseline for veterans in the

combine, but I don't have a real twist on that. That's just a normal idea. It won't not that fun. Just better. I'm trying to figure out, well, try to figure out a twist that I can't. I don't think there's a twist to it. I think it's just a practical idea snuck in there and I don't think

It should really be there.

We went out to a restaurant and Russell says, um, the waiter comes over a great guy. He's just

very evocative and he was, and the kids loved him. And the Russell's like, man, the waiter smells great. Oh, my God, I didn't notice who's over there. You guys. He's like, yeah, I think it's his mouthwash. Like, it's definitely wasn't his mouthwash. I think it was just his colon that you're responding to. But that being said, mouthwash flavored colon. The other way around, colon flavor, they're sensing stuff via, my kids think everything is mouthwash. So mathwash that actually serves the purpose of

colon. Yes, when people are like, oh, nice, colon. You, you smell of freshly groomed. But it's actually coming out of my mouth. I had a piece of cinnamon gum. My kids might have very sensitive nasal passage. I was eating to that bad eyesight. No, is that a thing? Yeah, the worse your eyesight is,

the other senses sighting. Oh, that's why I'm good. I've good smelling good hearing because I can't see

or know that. Yeah. The, um, I was having cinnamon gum and they're like, are you wearing colon? Like, no, they don't make, they don't make cinnamon colon. This is cinnamon. I'm having the cinnamon. They got stinks. Like, if they're experiencing mouthwash. Again, I don't think you want to switch around some sort of a leather tasting colon. Yeah, I don't know how that would. It's a really good half bake because I don't know if you'd want a colon taste in your mouth.

But leaving her mouth you'd want it. That's all I'm saying. I don't want to always smell like

mint. No one's like, wow, that guy smells great smells like mint. No one likes that. Oh, wow, he smells like leather to back. I have two, I have two small half baked family related, not not from listeners from me, since you're talking family. One, do you do the thing where you take a picture of like you and your wife or your wife? You mail it to somebody and then they get mad that you didn't clear, send in the picture out with them in it first. Does

you ever do that? It may have happened to me once a decade ago, so I don't have any recent

experience with that. I know to always clear it. But that's kind of annoying, right?

Why do every time you just be like, is this okay? Can I send this to dad? I do an automatic delete on stuff that's also in the picture where I look bad in my wife looks great as, well, how about this? Can we take it out of both of your hands? Could there be a third party photo clearance? Were you just sending it to somebody and somebody gives you a immediate 10 seconds later? Like, that one's good. You both look great. And now it's like, well, we're paying the service. They told

me the photo look good and they're just constantly green stamping everything and now it's out of your hands. Because sometimes you're like, I don't like that photo and it's like, well,

I look really good in that photo and you look okay. Yes, I can't. But you're always going to like

down the photo that you don't look perfect in. So now we have a third party. Yes, like an arbitrator made photo. Yeah, photo arbitrator. That's one. Then the other one, my daughter went out for Easter lunch yesterday with my dad who drove and on the way home, my dad started driving down in one way street because he said, you know, my foot second and then realize that it had to back up. And I was thinking, we all have these stories about our parents as

they get older and soon we'll be those parents. Is there some sort of some sort of race that could happen? Like what's that? What's that race in the streets? Laman. When they're going through like Paris. Could would you watch old people race with each other? They were like heavily protected. Are they in vehicles? Yeah, they're in vehicles. It's that everybody's 78 years old that up. Just a senior tour of senior. It's really a senior tour. It's a senior tour with people like

and if you can't win, you don't get to keep your license. He wins. There's some real

mistakes. This is the race you have to win to keep your driver's license for two more years.

But the cars are heavily protected. Even if there's an accident, nobody's going to get hurt. A little bit of course, it's got a whole cage on it. Yeah, they're really in there. That's why it's a half bake. I didn't figure out the part if there's a bad accident. But there's a few one way streets near me where it's not one way, but it's like when you get on a highway and there's two, it's like a curving highway and signed screams wrong way, but facing the, it's for the

Other lane and can feel it.

really bad with that, especially at night. And then Boston will just have these one way streets out

of nowhere. No, we're going down a street and all of a sudden, it's that's it. You can't. No, you gotta put the, you gotta put those spikes up. Yeah. Those rental cars spikes so you can only go one way. All right, mothwash clones, we did casual Friday. That's a stupid idea. I don't even like, all right, this one is, that's on stupid too. I need, I need a title for this one. I'm calling it lifetime learner. So my kids are in going into, going into high school middle school. They

feel a certain amount of pressure to do well on their tests and occasionally they'll have the classic youthful breakdown of, why do I even need to know this stuff? Yeah. Like, and, you know,

every, I remember saying that and you come up with some convoluted answer like, well, if you

know if you ever want to be a businessman or then sometimes I go the other way and it's abstractly,

like, well, actually learning is part of is the definition of your brain journey. Yes, it's just, so then they'll start telling me about stuff that they're learning out of the blue. And like, this is actually fascinating what you're learning, like either either parts of American history or parts of global history that I currently am not learning. I'm sort of walked in the sports world and then I'm also just following my own interests. Yeah. But maybe I want new interests.

And I'm like, well, you can sign up for any class, but I don't know what classes I want. I'm, I'm kind of a fully formed person. I want the pressure. Right. So I want someone to come in with real states, like if, if Russell doesn't do well on a test, it's, it's not probably the

healthiest thing in the world. So we try to balance it. But he starts thinking about like, you know, my

grades and college, and we try to balance it. But I need those stakes on me. So if we're out to eat and like, hey, you want to, you know, go to the bar, I'm like, Bill, I got to go do it. I got to study about the pyramids or my tax rate goes up. My tax is going to then, you know, I'm going to lose a bunch of money. I need real stakes to force me to learn something. I'm not currently interested in, but you already have, oh, yeah, because you have those stakes doing a daily show. But you don't

want to seem like an asshole, because you did it. Now, what's going on with football? No, but I like sports. I want to learn about, I would like someone to come in and be like, you know, what, we got to learn about grasshoppers. I'm like, oh, why do we got to learn about this? And cast on graphic, better know what these things are. You better know about their mating habits. And

so like, art history, I need to, I'll never learn it. I will never learn it. I need someone,

you're like, well, sign up for a class. I won't go to the class. I need what are the stakes of the class. So what would the state, the reason is that I have picked that idea? What would the stakes actually be to get you to care? I find an actual punishment. I mean, I think physical punishment is too weird, but it's got to be, you know, the care in the physical punishment, but that's what I'm saying. It has to be a financial, has to be a financial punishment. You have to, you have to lose something that you care

about that you currently own. It's like, oh, my Tom Brady 2000 rookie football card. If I don't get to be plus in this class, I have to give that card to somebody else. It has to force me to study. Yeah. And at the end of three months, I'm like, oh, yeah, I know all about our history. I know all about

the erosion. I don't even know what I want to learn about. That's what I want to learn, but I think

I need to learn. I want to learn something. You have to sacrifice something, but then if you get like a B plus A minus or above, you actually get something. Like you, you're like, I know it's I love cards. No, I think you get a prize to a prize. Yeah. We're a prize, prize driven country right now. You're about prizes all the time. You want to do a couple of listener ones really fast. Yeah, go. Nick from Chicago is really encouraged by Nathan for you.

Nathan when he does something, he's all in rehearsing every single aspect of it. And he wants to know what would happen if Steve bomber before the playoffs. He took all the people that were going to go to the Quippers game. And they secretly rehearsed all of these different shants and things they were going to do during the game. Nobody knew it was happening. And then the spurs come in for game three. And the games about to start. And the Clipper fans are all lined doing some sort of crazy

fan thing and try to mess with the state. They've studied the spurs. They have chance for individual

Guys.

Have picked idea. I just like the idea of an owner trying to orchestrate that somehow in silence, because Nathan failed to learn how to be how to flag commercial jet in silence. It doesn't seem to be that it. He could do it with that wall thing has, but I don't feel like that could affect the game that much. Anyway, that was one. It's really more are we willing to have flares for some

reason. And this goes back to the first half baked idea about what's going on in Europe in different

rules. Yeah, big on flares. Yeah, I don't understand that. I don't. I'm too in general. Yeah, we'll look at stadium. It's like it's like a huge sparkler, I guess. As long as no one gets hurt. Jordan G wants to know why speech karaoke can't be a thing.

Instead of giving a song. Have you had this one? I've done, I think I did like stand-up comedy

cover songs, but this is close. Hey, you just like everybody goes up and they give. He's like, I'm going to give the Gettysburg address now in front of there. Yeah, you give the friends. You give the miracle on ice karaoke. I'm that I didn't like that. I like that one. He had a better one. Okay, it's an eating competition. Like we have on the 4th of July hot dog contest, but everyone's on a zempick. And they've been taking a zempick for two months. And then

that they have to eat hot dogs, but they're not all right because they're taking a zempick. No, what happens? I have to make a good day get to. I like speech. I love speech karaoke. All right, speech karaoke. And then I did this one with house. I don't know if you heard, but we we we had a listener talking about anesthesiology and anesthesiology bars, you know, whether I don't know if

you had to take on that. Well, outside of horribly dangerous, yeah, but you go totally under

and you can do it for as long as you want. So the idea was, all right, I'm going to get to the airport five hours early for my flight to get through TSA. And then I'll have three hours to kill. I'll just go to the anesthesiology bar and get not that guest. Because it's just like, it just, I mean, and then you could just do this. And house was all in it because has said that there's nothing. It's made him happier than getting knocked out

first colonoscopy. That he went into the stream like state. He loved it. And he would do it again.

Yes, that that was the other epic idea. But I don't think doing for three hours, did you want? Did you see Hail Mary? I didn't see it. Oh, it's good. Yeah. It's good. But you know, the premise like Ryan Gosling wakes up after, you know, he's been out for a while. That's it doesn't that happens in these movies. And so it comes out great for the person who wakes up.

Yeah, they always have like a long beard. That's what was on the first thing. Like, I got to get

rid of this beard. Ryan got to handsome. Any last topics? Are we done? I'll just fly. I'll just I'll go these are the three quick ones ready. Rapid fire. Rapid fire. Half picked. Yeah. Rapid fire. One casual Friday in the NBA. Look, everybody's got uniforms on casual Friday. Just wear a pair of shorts and a t-shirt. It's like casual Friday. Watch the games. Hey, you guys were just kind of lightly colored t-shirts,

where we're darker colored t-shirts. But just your own shorts, whatever you want, it feels more pick up. I think they should do that for their tanking games when the seasons over for both teams. Like, just make it a casual Friday. Just wear any t-shirts that you find. Yeah. Number two, another karaoke thing was in a, trying to listen to Bob Seager. I didn't know the words. And I wanted to really sing just like how

there's warnings on your car. The words are right there on your screen. So you can sing along

to a song that you don't know while you're in the car by yourself. Oh, finally,

well, there's more dangerous than my senior citizen. No, it's just a lot. You can say, but it's, but it's, it's in the windshield. Yeah. It's transparent. Okay. While bird mix, can I attract other animals other than just specific types of birds, hawks, coyotes, fox, I wouldn't mind that mountain lion. What do I need to put out there? Finally, this is a little bit of your sports are classic. The, you know, the, the godfather of

half-baked ideas where you just wanted to be a government official in charge of all sports. Yeah. This is a little bit of, and this is a little bit used to talk about your wife, how she would pick up on, um, you know, emotional, social cues from teams while you guys

Were watching the game.

oh, you know, what they were, I, we had talked to the medical experts. They were cleared, you know, Austin, he was clear to just a regular guy who's barely paying attention is on the staff. You're like, "No, I don't know, man, we're down 30." The VP of common sense. That's it. Get him out. Okay. If he's going to kill us, we're down 30, bro. Like, he, I saw him grab his hamstring. He heard it earlier. So, like, he shouldn't have like, and Austin, he said it was his back, but like,

nah, dude, we're down 30. Let's run and get some run. Oh, that's it. The old season, it's a billion

dollar franchise. I think, well, the doctor's cleared him too much. There's a guy when I walk,

when I walk my dog, walk around, and they have a big screen TV. Whatever that person is watching, is the number one show in America. It was football, basketball. I'm like, that, the state of the Union, like, that is the number one hit. Like, this, I don't know what the person does. They should be hired by, they should be a media executive. Just like, yeah, I like that. That'll work. I'm the common sense. That's all. That's great. How are we feeling about the paths?

The Patriots, I feel great. Okay. The red socks, I feel terrible. You can't even though we're taping this on Monday. I feel great. In Celtics, I feel great. So, I don't fall a hockey,

my new thing is been amazing. It's been amazing. It's been amazing. It's been like a gift from

the gods. I was so nervous about Tatum because I think I'm a bit of a Achilles baby, but he's just great. I'm happy for him and Jalen's playing great. So, I'm just thrilled. I'm happy for everybody. I really like watching the team. I like the coach. I like all the guys on it. It's been a home run. I give this season a plus. Yes. It's been an A plus season. They're going to win like 56, 57 games. Tatum looks like Tatum again. It's like, whatever happened at MSG almost a year ago. It's,

it's like just this ugly blurry memory that almost feels like it didn't happen now. It's great. Are you in bonus territory? I felt like I was in bonus territory with the Patriots. Yeah, because they weren't a Super Bowl team. It was amazing. They made the Super Bowl. I think all of us were like, wow, this is amazing. But you're not there with the Celtics. You're like, I think Celtics can win the title. Okay. I'm a little bit of bonus territory with the Celtics.

Like Jalen tweeted like 50 wins in a gap year or an off year or whatever. I think I'm in bonus territory. This would be a championship you steal. The thing is, I wouldn't have totally believed if it wasn't for those games in San Antonio. Okay. See that week where one of the games they didn't have Tatum. And then the other one, Jalen got thrown out. But I just thought, I felt like they handled the speed and athleticism of both of those teams in a way that,

I don't think a lot of teams can. I think really only Denver can. Maybe Minnesota. But I just felt they seemed comfortable in those games. That would also be the reason if you're next fan. You beat the spurs and you hung with okay see twice when you played them. It's like,

at least at least we seem like we belong in games like this. I think that's how you have to think.

The Celtics belong in games like that. That's right. I believe in the next. I believe in playoff Jalen Bronson. I feel like they're sleeping. I'm not as much of a believer, but no one believes them. No one believes them. They haven't really given anyone a reason though. I just believe, I think it's I think it's a little bit of a flip the switch team. Woodstank writes chief state of mind right now. Very good. Two first round ticks shore up the defense, Patrick Momes,

post some videos of him running around. He's ahead of schedule. Kelsey back. Has anyone been behind schedule after a major surgery in the last six years? Only Brandon Ayuk. He's the only one. That's he's the everyone is ahead of schedule. Everyone's like feeling great in way ahead and wow, we can't believe the progress. I think I think the medical community did with athletes did something like the airlines or like, you know what, we're tired of being late. Just say every

flight that takes five hours, six, five and a half hours. Good news. An early arrival,

you're going to get you there like we're actually 25 minutes late. We never did a master's

half bank by the way, but I guess we just forgot. Do we usually do it? No, it's just the masters are

this week. Oh, I mean, the only half bank with that is just the best part of the masters is you have to

give way your phone and I have human interactions with people and maybe that's just an event that people should just do. It's like a festival. Like instead of fanatics fast, it's just like all your phone and talk to human beings makes new friends fast. Chemicalouts, I think my favorite was the was you tapping into the embassies. I think you really cracked something with that. I want to find

Out more.

Say how to the gang for me. Great to see you, my buddy. See you. All right. As you know, I love betting golf majors on Fando, a brand-out trust, easy to build. By that, you know, you're going to get winnings instantly. And the NBA last week for my Wednesday bet we rode Victor Wemin Yamma to a massive almost nine to one same game, partly 35 plus points, 14 plus rebounds sparse to win. It hit. So this

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See if a chance to take another swing if your bet's not looking good. Fando, play your game. Nathan Hubbard is here. He hosts a fairway role in the Joe House. He also hosts every single album, a fantastic pop culture music podcast. We went to the masters three of the last four years. We didn't go this year. I didn't care that it didn't go. But now it's Tuesday and I feel sad. 92. I wish we do too. I missed the eating. I missed the not sleeping. I missed not having my phone

for three days. I missed the walking. And I missed some of the storylines. And there are some good ones this year, even though we don't have tiger. Scotty chef are people. There's no conversations left to be had. We already won the masters. So we have the biggest one. What's the

biggest story left for you? What's the biggest master story we have right now? I think it's

what you just said, which is that for since 2022 coming into the masters, we've had a dominant

player who kicked ass in the first three months of the year and walked into the masters and wanted.

In 22, it was Scotty. Then Rahm walked in in 23 and took finally, you know, the masters as a spaniard Scotty again in 24. And last year, Rory won the players. He won it pebble and came in and broke through. This year, we just don't have a dominant player. There have been classy winners. We've had more cowa. Scotty's got one. Justin Rose is one. Cam Young is one. Statistically, we have more elite players entering this tournament. But at any time since 2004. And so we

know, when you couple that with the fact that a bunch of the best guys are coming in on more rest than ever, all 11 of the last 11 masters winners have not had more than one week of rest. And there's guys coming in with two, three, even four weeks of rest. Scotty, we haven't seen since the players. He's got a new baby. So all the time he's got there. Yeah, great job. Well,

he did look at the calendar. Yeah. I think he did look at the calendar because he managed to

sneak it in with 10 days despair. But I think the story is that with no tiger and no fill for the

first time since 1994, there's a possibility that we get one of those randoms this year. We get

a Charles Schwarzel or a Danny Willett because we don't have a dominant, he's the man going to come grab the crown this year. This is a really professional answer. There's a lot of podcasts for you. I felt like I was posting sports center. But what's the sexy story that's left? Because I have an idea for one, but I don't, I want to see if you had the same idea. I, you, you tell me, I mean, there's, there's one, just give me one. Just give me that

way you think it's like the one that would get the gallery the most intrigued. It's, it's Bryson to Shambha winning. He's the most popular golfer on the planet. He's finished

two, you know, top 10s here. He's got second places at the last two PGAs, but he's secretly

really struggled in final rounds. Even that 2024 US opened that he won. That's part of the Rory McRoy narrative arc. Like Rory gave him that. Yeah. He's won the last two live events walking off that green on the last live event where he beat John Rom who statistically has been the best player over the last three months. He was in tears. Something's going on in Bryson's personal life that he doesn't want to talk about publicly, but for all of his sort of head games

and most of golf is like 90% between the years. If Bryson has something going on outside that sort of focuses him as the most popular golfer on the course and really candidly on the planet, Bryson coming in and actually getting this win. He kind of belongs in that player's dinner room doesn't he? He's more popular than Rory. Like for these next four days. I think I just think Rory's

Still, even though he won, Rory's still the most popular.

root for that over Bryson. Yeah. It's only happened three times and in fact, like in the last 20 years, like only like three guys have finished in the top 10 while defending. It's just so hard.

Rory's already on site. I think, you know, you listened to him. He's still processing last year.

It was definitely, it goes down as one of the all-time classics, right? That Tiger in 2019, Tiger in '97, Jack in '86. I think are the four biggest masters moment. Certainly of our generation. And so it's just a lot of work to defend and host and normal clothing and to go back to back to back. I put Norman in there too, even though he lost. For sure. I don't have Rory on my list. The two, I think Rory going back to back and Bryson winning are the two biggest possible outcomes

for Sunday. Yeah. Sneaky one is Fleetwood, who if you're just talking about somebody who has been

in the WWE for 15 years, but never actually got to hold the belt. He's never really had the belt.

What does he have? He is eight top 10s and majors. Even last year when he was trying to get off the hump of PJ titles, I forget what what city that was, but he finally won it. Yeah. So my he was going to choke and then in the, you know, last couple of holes rallied back and that was fun. But to me, he's like the most talented. And again, this is casual golf in bill. But the most talented guy who doesn't seem like he has one of these. So that was one. But we know he's going to

choke. So it's not that he was talking about. I mean, I know he's not going to come through. Only five guys have ever won the Masters with one or fewer PJ tour wins. He's coming in with top 10s and four of his last five starts. He's still playing well after he won the tour championship. He's, it seemed like it took him to the next level. Prom for Tommy is that his putting numbers right now are not awesome. He's 120th on tour and putting. And they're talking this week because

I mean, the last couple years you and I've been down that you remember the weather that we've had.

We've had a lot of rain. And I think that's secretly made the course a little bit easier for some

guys this year. The weather's perfect. They've had a dry winter in spring. Sounds like the green jackets are tired of nine straight years of double digit below par victories and that they might flex the muscle of the course and make it a little bit faster this year. So for putters who aren't putting

well, could be a little bit of a struggle this year. So Ludwig, second in in 2024, seventh last year,

him winning and putting himself on the map. I think would be interesting. But he seems like two sexy of a pick. Yeah. That's the one a lot of people are pointing to. He doesn't have the best odds, but he's like in the top eight for odds and it's just fun to be like it's his time. So I am a some automatic with his qualifyinger. There's no doubt that he's going to win one of these, but he's shown us some colors over the last month and even last year. So he's coming in with a T3,

a T5 and a T5. He had the players championship in his hands and he choked it on the back nine. There's just no denying it. On Sunday this past week in San Antonio, he had a real opportunity to go in and he had another mediocre Sunday. And when you rewind to last year, you sort of forget it. He was briefly tied with Rose and Rory on the back last year. He finished bogey triple bogey and ended up falling down. So there is, when we talk about a little bit of that scar tissue,

he's got quietly a little bit of that scar tissue, but you're exactly right. He's 26 years old of the generation that's just a shade below 30 tier two year old brace and 31 year old, you know, ROM 29 year old Scotty. That's the guy. And it's just a question of when not if. More a call a little bit 31 to one on Fando. But a little bit somewhere like kind of needs a moment as we've been waiting. We've been waiting. I don't trust to be there. I wouldn't bet that.

Well, you shouldn't right now because he was the consensus guy at the players. And he was he had the best iron play on tour in the first start of the year. And you know, Augusta is the, you know, the second shot golf course on tour, right? You've got to be able to hit your iron as well. He takes a practice swing on his second hole. He's got all of the handle on him at the players. Takes a practice swing on his second hole and throws out his back. He hasn't played

sense. And we've gotten some intel on the ground that he did a, he did a practice round yesterday with chef learned a couple of other guys. But he was mostly just chipping and putting. He's with

drawn from the last couple of events. He's not healthy. You should not trust more coward this week.

And Patrick Greed 43 to one hometown kid already has one. It's always fun when he's involved

because it's like you get like a little mini villain coming in. And yeah. And and coming back from

Live.

root for him. No, but I like him as like a first round leader. I mean, there's a real redemption arc with Patrick Greed coming back now. He, he left, lived, ripped off a couple of wins in a second place on the euro tour. And suddenly, like, you forget last year, he statistically was second in ball striking at the masters behind Worry McElroy. So he's actually sneaky playing very, very well. And and that dove tales into, I mean, you tell me, I, 31 first round leader. I, I,

I don't hate it in the same way that Brooks, Kepka, I bet you get better odds there. Kepka, his fellow sort of live defector was second on the PGA tour in approach play 30 until Houston. Yeah, I mean, Brooks's problem has been the putter, but he came back specifically to prep for

these events. I think when Rory won last year, it really triggered a lot of those live guys to

consider what was happening. At that point, you had sort of the undisputed best players in the world. We're Scotty and Rory, right? Scotty won two majors last year. I think for these guys who really all that's left in their 30s is to win majors. They decided that the PGA tour was the place to be. And both of those guys quietly have been playing really, really great golf.

Here's what I'm picking and betting on. Okay. He's 45 years old. Oh, my goodness. It's

his 21st masters. He's a three-time runner up. Yep. He won the 2025 US Open. He won in Tori Pines in February. Yes. He finished 13th at the players. He won the 2013 US Open. He is the most fun he didn't win the 25. I'm blanking. He won the 2013 US Open. I don't know why I wrote down Twitter, but he's fun. He's the most fun old guy story left. You need the old guy, mid 40s, 45. I can identify with this. I'm old in your old. It's like, look at this old guy, battle in these young

cups. 35 to one odds for Justin Rose. I mean, it jumped out of me. Baby doll, esteemed, esteemed age and slash manager, James Baby doll, Dixon. Also this is the one he targeted as well. And I like the 45, 46 range as like this is my last stand. If it doesn't happen now, once I hit 47, 48, 49,

the math is just against me. But 45, 46, still doable. So I think I have the tiger. I have to do it this

year. It's wide open. There's no awesome. There's no awesome golfer right now. Yep. This is a wide open field. I have some confidence. I'm in the mix with some of these things. Why not? Yeah, I think it's a great call out. I mean, he is now averaging the most strokes gained approach. More strokes gained approach than any other time in his career, more than when he won the US Open in 2013. And we've just watched him make puts so many times in so many clutch situations at the rider cup.

He was dominant at Torrey Pines this year. Now, he's missed a fair number of cuts. But I think to your point, he doesn't give a shit about the weekend, week out tournament. All he's trying to do is go win a major. And he handled the loss in the playoff last year with so much class that it does feel like he's due. It's a little bit like that. When Sergio won in 2017, right? It just

felt like it was his time and maybe he was due. So the thinking is, it's a now or never tournament

for him. Yep. We know his clutch because we see it in the rider. Absolutely. Like he has it in him. It's not, I don't have to worry about like a Tommy Fleetwood situation where I'm up three and the 12th hole and then all of a sudden something's going in the water. No. And I asked how don't who is he fearing if there's anyone out there? I like 45. That's right where like it went when Nicholas won in the Masters, 96. I think he was 56. Yeah. And that seemed ancient.

But now 45 is like 39 in 1986. I feel like that's like late 30s, 40 years ago. Yeah. And the only comparable potential old guy would be an Adam Scott, but I had him down to Adam Scott 70 to one, 45 years old and apparently second best guy with the

irons in 2026 so far. Need the irons? That Augusta. That's what you need. You know, he finished

fourth at Riviera and there's a lot of similarities between guys who win at Riviera and

guys who won at the Masters. Now, Tiger obviously never won at Riviera, but Scott showing his

stuff at Riviera made our eyebrows go up. I like him actually as a potential first round leader just because he's had those moments on this course. And it's it's it's hammer on Helicoprera,

Fresh out of fresh out of the slammer.

the beginning of the year and played decently well. So I could see VJ is a make the cut bet this year. I like that Adam Scott Justin Rose battling in the finals to old guys as the nats are just going nuts. One other one that jumped out to me just because of the ads. Harrison Bush is 100 to one.

Yeah. He's been really struggling with both his approach play and his putting this year. Where's he from?

He's from. Yeah. Okay. Fair Georgia. He had success last year. But that because he's been struggling the odds are crazy. 100 to one. But I don't know. I like

when the when the people are from Georgia, I always do feel like that's like a little bit of a

something. Like if you're ever going to get your shit together, it would be in your home state course. Yeah. Well, with with that in mind, you might you might look at Jacob Bridgman who won a golf tournament earlier this year and and is actually been at the top of the FedEx Cup standings in the beginning part of the year. He's kind of an unknown but who has just searched to a ton of success. Basically, he's the best putter on the PGA tour went to Clemson. So he's not far from Georgia

and certainly from a regional perspective understands that golf. Now, first time winners, you know,

that the last 16, we haven't had a first time winner since fuzzy seller. So these guys don't

tend to win. But you know, from a top 10, top 20 standpoint, Jacob Bridgman is just that guy right now. And we're taking a look at 80 to 1, you know, pretty good. I mean, there's a couple of other guys that you got to pay attention to and and you talked about Harris English. My concern for Harris is that he had like a Jordan Speath 2016 at the master's moment, except his was at Beth Page at the Ryder Cup where he just really, really struggled. He and Moore Cowell were appearing

that fans got down on and then play well and it sort of started the unraveling of the U.S. team. Not clear to me that he's recovered from that. But the guy who was sort of the dog at Beth Page for the U.S. was Cam Young, right? He got that break when he's the last 16th season event. He really is and and he's tied for fifth in most top 10s at Major. He's got six top 10s since 2022. That's only behind Scotty, Rory, Zander, Bryson and Rom. All of whom have won. So, you know, he's finished

T9, he's finished T7 here. He's shown that he can do it and he's done it. You know, the last time we saw him was at the players championship. In the last two years, Rory and Scotty both won the players and then won on to win the master's. Cam Young just won the players. So he's a he's a very interesting pick this week. I'm like a six on the masters this year. Real. I mean, I love the masters every year. I'm just saying that with like, no, I got really had my hopes up for Tiger.

House and I talked about it last week. Yeah. I have all the other little smoke signals that were coming out that he was going to play. I really like to the point where we were like, should we go? Should we try to rally last minute? That could be my play. The Rory thing being a year after the Rory thing. I think there's something with golf majors where when there's like a

spectacular generational tournament, it always feels like the next year sucks. Yeah. I don't know why that

is. There's a definite let down possibility here for sure whether I think it's going to be weird. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not going. Okay. We've talked ourselves out of it. Yeah, we're still a course of 15 minutes. Coachella really quick. Yeah. Still happening apparently. It is. My son is apparently going this year. Oh, boy. Would you ever go to Coachella? You just can't. The crowds are too much for you. I told you it.

It checks all the boxes I have for things I wouldn't want to do. It's a long car ride. You have to

like plan way ahead and where you're staying. It's large groups of people and all kinds of possibilities for getting COVID again. All these different things. There's kids. A lot of walking.

I never feel like I'm in the right spot. It just sounds horrible. I don't think I've been in

me. I'm so old. I have a bit of a music festival since like the K-rock hot dog, whatever the one. What was that the Winnie Bros? Yes. That was really fun. I saw one of those like in the height of like the comeback of alternative music. I don't know if I can top that. Come on, man. You got the strokes out there this year. I mean, all the drugs is pretty exciting. Yeah. All eyes I think are unjust and beaver because what's not clear is, you know, this

he's had a lot of struggles. He's maybe the tiger. Right. He has the music business. Right. And the question is, you know, is Ken, he pull off an entire show because he has not been able to tour for a long time because of a bunch of issues. And so he walked out on stage

In the Grammys in only his boxers and played what people thought was a pretty...

he walked off and left his loop machine going and then walked back on to turn it off. Right. So he had

sort of a double leave, which made people a little bit unsure, but like beaver, beaver secretly

put out a really great album. And the only question is, I think, whether he can deliver a full show.

If he does that for two weekends in a row, his careers back. And then Sabrina Carpenter, you're compromised on this Sabrina Carpenter question because of business interests. But it seems like she is the biggest star, Coachella. Correct. It's a big one. Yeah. I think she is, nobody works harder than her. And she's just, she's sort of been able to stay above all of the messiness that a bunch of these pop stars get into and just deliver it. And it's because she just,

she just, she's got a bunch of hits and she gets up there. She's got, she's cornered, you know, smart, cute, dirty lane. And yeah, she just, she's kind of more clever than anybody else. How does he corner that for us at the ringer? I guess it's just a dirty part. I think that's the other part. I was going to say that you've got the dirty. That really cute, the dirty. So, the dirty he has. So, and Taylor Swift is just, we're going to get the,

she's having a cat announcement anytime and taking two years off. Is that we're just headed that way?

We're definitely headed for a wedding. The thing that I don't know is, she just never stops

working, man. And I think even though, by the sort of streaming numbers and the statistics, this last album was technically her biggest. In terms of the way that it pierced culture or didn't pierce culture, I think it probably feels like a little bit of disappointment. And her history is not to then go away. Her history is to keep going and lean into it. So, you know, it's now been a couple of years since she wrote all these songs that there could be more coming.

Well, they issue for her as once you start skewing a little there and then younger people want their own version of you. And it's really hard to win that group when they just like, I like this person, they're closer by age and you belong to this other generation and I want one for myself. And now you're battling it's at, which is, she's 36. You've got an whole generation, it's just like, you know, in golf there's this whole new generation of

Ludwig's coming up who are sticking their own claim and who young people seem to identify with. Again, statistically, she's still crushing her fan base as massive. But it does make me wonder, you know, the love story like wedding between John Junior and Carolyn Bacet. Like we haven't had one this big for a long time. I wonder if they may just run into a cabin in Georgia, speaking of Georgia, just like they did to get this done to get it away from from where everybody's

going to, I'm the prime eyes on this thing. I don't be ridiculous. I think it's the opposite. I could almost see them like pay per viewing it. I think it's going to be a big, but I think they would want to go die in a Charles early 80s level. Yeah, I mean, it's coming out. We have no details. I think it's going to happen over the summer. So I'm waiting to hear, but if I'm them and I think they do it small and get this thing over with. The bigger question

to me is can somebody make influential awesome music when they're happy with their personal life? Correct. It's a great question. We've been trying to answer it for 70 years and you go back to all of the best albums by all of the best artists for the most part or people who were in pain upset at somebody felt betrayed felt hurt generational acts. Yeah, felt unwanted felt

misunderstood. And that's what most art comes from. And if you're just like, yeah,

this Travis Kelsey guys, great. I'm having a great time. Then what are you singing about? I think that's, I think that's the concern. We just got two EPs from U2 that we didn't need. We just did my life. I love it. I'm sure. You know, give me the young

Bono. You too, and then they came back in the 2001. It was basically they had already won. They did

everything they could possibly do. And it was like, it's a beautiful day. That was their album. They're just happy. It's like, hey, everybody. Yeah, they started forcing their albums on to where iPhones it was a mess. But yeah, I do think you're on to something which is by the way, Steve E. Next, there was like a podcast announcement. Oh, yeah, there was a fake album announcement yesterday that got quickly corrected with people magazine. But supposedly, I don't know, we still may get a

little Lindsey Stevie drama before it's all said and done. Come on. Yeah, I think there's a little buzz that perhaps there's going to be some more music together. I don't know, man. It's supposedly, there's a big documentary coming out about Fleetwood back that I visited was devastating to me because that was my all-time dream music that I'm going to ever crush you. Somebody pulled that off and got everybody to talk and, and I'm really interested to see how it plays out.

I think this guy's many times.

We've got to get you on every single album talking about rumors. That's the fifth my way in a way. Sorry. No, it's my white whale. This is it. All right. Nathan Hubbard. Anything else for we go? No, I just wish you, I mean, come to Coachella weekend, too. We'll go to the Sahara tent. You can see. You just hear the MS. The area where ever go to Coachella. It's over for you. Plus, it's during the playoffs and stuff and basketball. Like last week in a basketball. I don't

see anything. We're too old. We'll watch the live stream Coachella and we can watch the masters on the couch this weekend and see if we get a little more drama than it looks like we're going to have going in. All right. Well, thanks for coming out and blogating about the masters. It was great to see you. Nathan Hubbard. We could see on fairway rolling at every single album. Say, we'll do this segment is brought to you by the all new Audi Q3 made for the S life. We're talking

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TV podcast with Rob Honey and others and you can also hear her on the House of War podcast. But I caught up on the pit. So big thing you've been put you and Rob, a bunch of people in my life have been pushed to me and I was like I don't know and then last week my wife would just like all right I'm just going to start watching. I was working on a podcast and kind of like half watching on the couch and then now I'm like three four swatching and then by Nana Man and then we ended up watching 28 episodes

in four days. So how long do you think it took you to hook you all the way in?

Probably around episode three four range. Once you have a feel for it I don't know what took me so long. I knew it like it because I really liked the R the first five, six seasons. But the premise of it is just so smart where they're they're basically looking at ER from a

million years ago like that was the biggest show we had. Medical shows always work and then it's like

you know it also is a big show 24. That show crushed in the 2000s. What if those two shows just merged together and we had no whileing on it? I wonder if this will work and we'll put it on HBO and we'll be able to push the envelope with some of the stuff you see in the ER and I mean of course this work. This must have been the easiest pitch of all time. What do you make of the idea that initially rumor has of the initially they want to make it an actual like Dr. John Carter spin off show like

no whiley still playing John Carter just this many years later? So I don't feel like I just feel like he's no whiley with both characters. I don't even really remember John Carter enough to know what the differences are but it's basically the same guy. They tried to get this guy a little bit of a backstory but it's I still feel like it's John Carter. They're just called him Dr. Robby. Yeah it's basically the same guy. The the the story

purportedly is that the Michael Crateness date was like give me that money if you're going to

make it off of ER and they were like never mind. It's Dr. Robby he has nothing to do with John Carter.

It's completely different city. It's a completely different hospital. By the way smart decision they didn't need John Wells or any of those people for this. Why would

they have to pay that for? Yeah I mean I think that this show is an absolute smash and obviously

it's winning awards. It's hugely popular but yeah it's so addictive and there's something about there's something so old school of course about just spending all this time with characters

That you're interested in and that's what season two has really become like y...

a little bit earlier today about the differences between season one and season two and season two

is just so much more hey do you like these people or are you at very least interested in this

people that you're just going to spend time with them not do that big like mass shooting press so they didn't season one. Yeah I gave you my theory that season one felt like the kitchen sink

we have no idea if we're even going to get a second season. Let's go all in we have 15 episodes

we'll throw everything into this and we'll make this like the craziest day in the arc you'd ever have on 15 hours and then season two is like hey we want the show to go on for six, seven, eight, nine years we can't do the kitchen sink thing again let's let's take our time because I've got season one was better but I understand why they played season two the way they did. I also think season one is better just because it was so unexpected like we just didn't see the show coming at

all. Yeah absolutely swept everyone up but I I mostly agree with you but I also think it's a you know they were insecure in their first season because they're like we're not sure that people are going to emotionally latch on to these characters that they'll even be able to tell what's going on there's so many characters they're introducing in season two they the luxury of we're already invested in Frank Langdon how's he gonna come back to the ED or like you know all these other

characters we're already in the middle of their story so I feel like they don't it's a little

bit more self confident in that you don't feel like they need a big event in the second season

to get us in do you know what I mean yeah that's a good point I want to end also you're discovering

a show with season one is always going to be a more fun show it's a new world. I think one of

things I really like about it is sometimes we don't get resolution with some of the stuff that happened like in the in the first season you have that that lady comes in who's clearly probably being sex trafficked with the pregnant lady and we're there with them for maybe three episodes and then they just kind of leave like I wonder what happened and you just don't know because that's probably what it's like to work with an ER you're constantly probably asking like little questions

yourself like what's going on that family what's going on with these people. All right and they're not you know they're not trying to make a documentary they're not trying to be like extremely realistic with the show but they are trying to show you people who are in the span of the same episode right and wrong you know like there's no character on the show maybe not even milking this season

there's no character on the show who's always right and always gets it right and is always

correct in their opinions and there's no most of the cases aren't clean like that I've you know the mistakes are made things are missed you lose patience you win you win with the patience but it's

you never know how it's going to turn out inside of the pit I think the one thing you can always

rely on is that they're going to try to really challenge your expectations about something they like to show you a character and ask you to assume something assume you know who they are and then turn the tables on you at some point and so that might get tired around season three or season four I don't know but for right now that formula is really working well they asked I'll have if for for you to extend the tail of the show you can always just get rid of doctors. It's what they're

doing that they had a big announcement this week that they're getting rid of a of a main character and they got rid of one in season one as well Dr. Collins right Dr. Collins left after season one and they've got another casting out for the season so yeah you can rotate the cast in and out how are you feeling about about there's so much excitement around the night shift crew how do you feel about the night shift crew is there sort of clocking into the ED at the end of season two here

it's a new wrinkle I mean I'm a as you know I own a lot of shun had to see stock Dr. Abbott you love him I do good tennis with him but it was funny knowing him before he got the show because you know everybody out here it's like I'm trying to grab this job you grabbed that job and then you end up on this show which is like like one of the phenomenon shows of this decade so I want more of him and and just in general like I'm starting to get a little

tired as some of the people that have been on a lot and I want new people. CR and I were talking about this on the watch last week this idea of maybe in the second season they could instead of showing us a whole day shift they could show us sort of half a day shift half a night shift you know like move the night shift in even a little earlier onto the roster that could be interesting but yeah I am curious to see who they bring on who's new next season I really what did you make of the

new med students we got we got joy and ogle the season like did that did those additions work for you and so okay I don't think there's been like who's your favorite of all the side I mean everybody it's so funny I went through all the phases of this show and clearly my favorite character it was gonna be Dana like there was no question and so right and it's like well that's CR's favorite character is like of course shitty guests of course she gets punched having a cigarette which I thought was

A tough one tough one for cigarettes break cover because I was like so excite...

cigarette break I was like I couldn't love Dana more and now she's having a cigarette break and then

boom some guy's saucer but yeah I love Dana but then I probably my other favorite one is the

one who didn't have an apartment in the first season oh would occur yeah yeah and I I don't know I felt like I was like strangely invested in him yeah there's a couple I really don't like but I know I'm also not supposed to like them who don't you like that you feel like you're not supposed

to like well the one that turned in our guy always doing is trying to dip in his some pills

let me leave the mail alone let's do this job what's wrong with giving some drugs for people who need it I heard anybody I literally heard people but now I didn't know like her character I didn't say why she did but I thought in season two they have really ramped it up with her and made her like more nobody and like they're clearly trying to make her a little more villainy and it's working for me because I don't like her Dr. Santos you're out on Santos well how

do you feel about bringing landed back the way that they did this season I'm a huge frankly landed fan so I'm like glad he's back but Rob and I have been talking a lot of the pressies uh show about the fact that you know they brought him back without really seemingly to involve HR and he's you know the the the drawback of we're going to do an entire shift one day in a season he's just like speed running his 12 steps to just be like a men's a men's a men's a men's a men's a

men's in one day but what they say it's like eight months yeah between between the two I think

eight or 10 months yeah so yeah I had some notes it felt like they glossed over um it felt like a multi-part crime that he was committing of you know uh putting patients in danger of stealing draw it doesn't seem like the kind of thing where you get your license back um and I sort of stand why uh Dr. Robby was upset about it but that was fair I think he should probably not be too trusting but yet it's a this is one of the things about the show I'm like rooting for him to

get his ship back together I like the character I actually thought he was other than Dana probably the strongest most realistic character I was interested in him. I'm I'm I'm I'm really invested in Dr. Layton's redemption arc it's just funny to watch it try to I'm trying to make it all happen in one day one shift of a on the ED you know it's one for the July yeah yeah yeah yeah we've seen this

before like I thought the first few years at ER I still think they hold up they're really good but

like when Anthony Edwards his character got assaulted and then was dealing with all like basically had PTSD from it wasn't telling anybody I'm just trying to keep working like holy shit like and he's in charge of these you know trying to do the right thing with patients and all the stuff and this we're watching this guy and rabble like that whole concept is really fun for these hospital drummers yeah and uh I don't know if you were still watching the show with the

happened but Carter know Wiley's character had a had a drug addiction issue on ER so like

I think I was at at that point yeah there's no uh when Clooney was out you were out you're like

I'm done Clooney gone I'm gone I did a good like six seven years I thought when was the one when he got him and Kelly Martin both got attacked yeah it's all in the sad it was like a nine inch nail song I thought that was on the best like five minutes I've ever seen a television some of the most traumatizing things I've really been serving yeah that really deep deeply disturbing yeah that was like I want to say that with season five something that I think yeah I've lasted through Clooney

yeah through through Kelly Kelly Martin and then once they once they bump her off you're done I started watching because she's sure I told you the sheriff's strength field who I loved and in my pity blue um was on also on ER and then that was like I'm gonna follow her there and that's it I don't have the answer to this but I wonder how much you know maybe they've talked about it but I wonder how much pitching this to Casey Boys at HBO

I wonder how much they're looking for shows that will also help banks some uh boost some of their library shows because he watched this on on yeah right to whatever yeah it goes right TR and I've we've

heard from so many people who are watching ER for the first time just because they love the

pits so much and they want to spend more time with Noah Wiley at the hospital and it's suggested to them on the app and so they're like okay well funny no if you notice he's on the screen grab for the show at least on my TV yeah so you don't know Wiley who doesn't have 30 years of ER disasters where got his face but now the first five years of that show are unassailable I'm going to do some of the best TV they're the best directors they did a Tarantino episode it was really great

yeah my Gregor was on yeah um and also like a really overqualified cast which I think if you're

Gonna ding this show ER had people especially the first couple years where it...

immediately clear clenew as a major star Edward like it was like this guy's making movies like you could just see it you knew Julie in a marglise she was headed to other things cherry string failed maybe was like this is where it's gonna end but Noah Wiley was like what's gonna happen with this guy I don't know you could tell me anything all right and he you know he was on there for so long Eric was so of course as old Eric was so I was another one he was in the glory of Ruben was on

that's just she was great like yeah I just feel like it was like hardly any brother Linda Cartelini

right tyranny you know like yeah some of the late late people were amazing too but yeah you're

right that like um that the pit other than Noah Wiley and and Argosian how to see you know this is a lot of people that we have not seen at all other either brand new to the industry or we're working

in theater but I think that's that was a budgetary gamble they made right to get how this massive cast

that they could pay very little money to and the whole and and budgetarily to set it all inside this one set saves them so much money they barely ever leave this one set that they built so it's it's an inexpensive show it's a huge phenomenon it's probably gonna win the Emmy again this year so it's just like one of the biggest return on investments you know you could you compare that to like a throne show which is costing them millions and millions and upon millions of dollars

with and his less of a cultural phenomenon than the pit is at least right now but you know what's funny about he are like most of those people were nobody's I didn't know when he had those people were except for him and he and where it's in Sheriff's Drinkfield those are the only people I knew I knew Eric LaSouth for coming over around yeah but you're so gloat yeah he was at least a little famous yeah the bigger picture to me is like first of all are just hospitals police and fire these

are just the undefeated things that we have for the rest of eternity yeah every 10 years like just all right fuck it let's do it again I was watching general hospital when I was a kid when Luke and Laura were on there and even like hospitals that wasn't even there was a hospital show before general hospital that was huge um I remember when E.R. and Chicago Hope we're going at each other at the same time also this big big thing then grades anatomy 10 years later if it's like

every 10 years there's another one of these yeah I think I think what's interesting about this show is

that they're they're really trying to beat the grades anatomy allegations so they you know they've insisted like we're not going to do relationships inside the show we're not going to have people hooking up and exam rooms that's not the show we're going to do like so that you know Shonda Shonda rhymes took the the medical template and then made it you know just a soap opera yeah yeah she shunted it and so they're like we're not going to do that well I like the 24 comp we're going to this is

our premise on that framework of a medical show that never you know never disappoints like

always comes through yeah we're interesting if they spin it off and they do that a group of podcasters right before the white lotus sees it for now I had already leading up to it with crazy shit happening in the opposite they keep trying to make podcasting work on TV but you can't make it work because they they just keep pretending it's radio and it's just not the same thing at all so further not only is it not work it's been

really truly terrible every time they're very interesting there's been one outcome where it's been awesome so no wiley yeah who was I want to say his career was over but it kind of had hit

the end of the line right and I think even he talked about that in some of the interviews like

yeah it was probably going to have to start selling my house and like my mom and her kind of coming gone I just felt like no wiley was so good in the show I kind of didn't really totally see it coming in the way he's in I think that stuff especially in season one the stuff he's doing week to week I was just really impressed I know he won all the awards I'm not breaking new ground saying this but it's weird somebody in their 50s to be like I didn't know you were this good

of an actor I think I'm using credible on the show like I I have been talking for last you know a couple weeks or whatever about should he take a slight back seat in season three just because he's doing so much he's writing he's directing he's EP he's the face of the show and every single interview that's mainly because I'm concerned about no wiley's like mental health yeah in terms of robbing the center of the show like he is incredible like he's so watchable he's

you you find yourself watching his face to see how he's reacting to something you might not always

agree with how he's reacting but you're always interested in what does Robby think about this and there is no show without no wiley uh here that might not always be true but right now there is no show without no wiley I'm sure they want it to run forever and perhaps eventually he'll

Cloney out of there but like it's uh it's his show and it's so like you love ...

he said employed since the end of the yard you know he was making like the librarians movies for TNT is of like that like he was working but it wasn't anything like this and to see him sort of all the way back front and center in the limelight in the biggest thing going on TV right now he's

getting his like walk of fame star uh you know in a couple weeks I think and it's just like I don't

know you love a comeback story no I mean his his career was at the point where he would have been like John Ham's buddy and your friends and neighbors who was actually stealing money from his boss but he would have been like the third or fourth lead right if even that because he wasn't even getting that kind of stuff yeah yeah yeah he's carrying the show and I'm sure like there's so few awesome parts I'm sure there's other actors in his age range or like fuck it would have

great part you know and like what you said about how you really he really he's the moral compass of the show but he uses silence really well you know it's like in the first season when that that couple they don't want to take their son off the ventilator and he's trying to get that

that way and they're like here's what we want to do and he does that like no whiley pause

and just like makes a couple faces it's like okay I get it all right I'll come back but it's just like you can read his face with what he's thinking it's which is a really hard thing for an actor

I think I've been really impressed how do you feel about the season two robby's on the edge robby

you know my peak contemplating suicide my robby might not be coming back from his trip how do you feel about that storyline well I thought it was interesting he wrote a motorcycle with that a helmet and like everyone we are and about you you mr. safety and you're just flying around Pittsburgh now I know they're trying to drum up the stuff I one of the things that's so cool about his character in the show is that I mean I don't really know anything about his background with who he was with

what's his what's his type you know like what is he got he's somebody is like there's no date scene we don't see Dr. Robbie at a bar like having a drink with somebody met online like that this show just punts on all of that and they're all about like the hospital and the work and the relationships and the work and all that other stuff you know the closest they'll come is

when he's on the roof or you know the very last scene of the last step so the first season but

it's just not interested in that stuff and I kind of like it yeah I think they're trying to get

that a little bit with like bringing in this guy dude who we worked with on the motorcycle and you know they bring in people's family like melcister Becca comes you know like the family members come in Dr. Mickey's dad played by the great her own dad Brad Durof comes in yeah season one you know her ex husband's there like yeah they have family kind of coming and going a little bit on the edges but yeah it's like mainly about the work which is sort of the whole part of the show which is about

these people have terrible work life balances and like their lives are their jobs so they don't have time to have other relationships at all um right then you use that as the crunch for why you don't have really cause my job right but your job was also like on composing yeah yeah you don't want to do the thing I love about the show tell me just a random guest actors that pop up we're like hey that guy it's like the death of last days of disco there is what's he doing

what a call what a call yeah there's a million of those in the show do you want them to keep it like small like hey it's that guy because eventually you are was like Sally Fields gonna be like I was one of the reasons I stopped a lot and I thought it hurt friends too with the

cameos I never understood that um it's like an SNL when they just they try to write sketches

so some celebrity can walk out and the crowd can go nuts I like when like they had this is like the all time deep cut but in season one they had the guy who was in one of my favorite sports movies as a kid fast break who was in vision quest who was in officer in a gentleman as the guy who was room with Richard Carot tall black guy name her also best her yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he was the old guy in season one I was a Carol semester is back but they had a bunch of those

I would much rather see that than then celebrity cameos that's really funny because every week we hear from listeners we hear from listeners of the pressies feed who are really excited about a certain leaner they had an actor who was on lawn order like all the different lawn order franchises so the lawn order people are chiming in or uh loophoregno son loophoregno junior was on playing this sort of orthopedic guy who comes in and like holds up the severed the severed leg

and our listeners sort of lost their mind they're like that's loophoregno junior he's on nine one one we love him and I was like oh the whole sun is here that's cool you know but yeah Mary McCormick showing up I feel like they're really in the formic was a good one yeah they're bringing these people for like one to show up so it's um Elvin from the Cosby show was on this last

Week you know like I I think that's really fun I agree with you yeah we need ...

in '90s early 2000s maybe get some sort of random party of five person it just really

keep me on my toes and that that I was watching all time because I would have loved listening to you and Rob try to break the stuff down over just watching 20 hours of this so before there's well did you watch you when your wife watch this together or did you break off and sort of now we did know couple we did know streamer cheating okay now we stay because I was able because because the set up I have for my job I was not going to keep the basketball on as we had

you know so I was able to to bang out so here's the thing I don't know about you um one thing

that people really love about the pit is that they get really emotional about it I don't feel like you're a big TV cryer do you get emotional about pit storylines like the story about that

kid with the who had was like brain dead in season one and he and like did that honor walk for him

you're not a TV cryer but my wife is and one of my favorite things is when it starts to get emotional and I won't look but I'll sneak over and then I'll look and she's like yep it got big like so and that happened at least three times in the two seasons like they really kind of go for it a couple times but then you know you watch these shows and you can't help but think about yourself in these situations or family members who have I don't think it was probably healthy to

watch to binge watch the show the other thing is like it showed like the start of a child birth like it there's a couple times like oh what about heads up or the guy with the maggots in the cast like they do a good job of jolks and you in the middle of a drama I can't handle it yeah it's the de-gloving for me anytime there's like a de-gloving where the skin has come off someone I just can't I can't handle it I can't handle it so how far are they going to go with this show we have two episodes

left season two mm-hmm there's a lot of cards left to play with some of the doctors and the junior doctors and the nurses stuff like that but there's some things they haven't done yet well I mean we don't have like creepy possibly sexually harassed a patient guy that's coming right there's there's things they haven't done yet but all other medical shows have done but they haven't done it the way that the pit does it so like you know every time you see a story line

a weeping hearing from people were like oh they did it on this medical show they did it on that medical show but that's okay if you recycle things that we obviously there's only so many medical things that can happen so it's just a whole genre where people just watch everyone of these shows and know every single thing that's happened well yeah because as their company people love procedures they it's a comfort watch for them right they love their fire shows their their police

shows and their medical shows and and so you know it to expect every week and you come in for the comfort the pit ulcers that a little bit because they don't wrap up every case at the end of the hour so you're about hanging you know like these cases extend the drama between the people extend a week to week so it's a slightly different version of that comfort procedural watch

but I think this show could run for ten years honestly I think it could if I'm sure it

can be an ax would love that I mean this one so the question one of the questions for me is if it had just been on Sunday nights on HBO at nine o'clock like they have with some of their signature shows would have worked in the same way or was it actually like this was the perfect hybrid max feels HBO but it's really a match and it's just kind of perfect for where we are in 2026 well my understanding is it was part of their uh previous effort which I think they've

slightly abandoned to try to distinguish between what's on facts on what's on HBO and this was like this is a this is a throwback network kind of show that we're gonna do on max but I don't think they're really that invested in that anymore and I I think it could have worked just as well on Sunday night HBO for sure it's an interesting spot because they're running the euphoria trailers and they have this show that now has three of the single biggest stars that we have are all in the show I don't

ever in a million the only time I can really remember anything like this happening before was friends

when Jennifer Aniston Courtney Cox and Perry were all like headlining movies all at the same time but I don't even know if they are as famous as the three people on the show this is I feel like we've broken new ground with this because well that was a different era of television of course right like TV yeah they you know you do you know yeah but like um also the difference with euphoria is yeah you know they've been making this show since 2019 so like so infrequently yeah it's I've been

rewatching euphoria season 1 to prepare for season 3 and you know they're just like such babies you know

to be sweety and take up a lordier just like absolutely tiny babies on that first season so

Their entire career exploding it is insane to me that they got this cast back...

I don't understand it I don't know I don't know how they pulled it off I don't think we want to know how much money it was involved but like I what what I do know is that I've heard from a ton of people including our guy Andy Greenwald who have been out on previous seasons of euphoria who are like I'm in for season 3 because it's undeniable you're not going to watch the show with Sidney Sweetie and Zendaya and Jacob Alordie is and Daya who's in the biggest movies that are coming

out this year like of course you're going to watch it so she's the single biggest

under 40 female movie star I think she is like and you could argue Sidney Sweetie's at the top

four I mean she's up there man and Jacob Alordie Oscar nominated you know it's just sort of like it's it's wild that all of them are together and it's show like that he has Zendaya this year this year for Zendaya is absolutely insane right doom free a spider-man movie this Robert Pattinson movie that's you know doing more numbers than I think people thought it was going to and you know and she's just like the I think she has she's the biggest star that he has the highest

approval rating of any male or female star and I think people really like Alordie I don't think there's a lot of people like fuck that guy where Sidney Sweetie's the most polarizing male or female actor actress we probably have I will say I had a tough time with Alordie just because his character on euphoria is so tough but it's been long enough since season

season that I was just like that he's done enough other stuff but I was yeah when I'm re-watching

him like oh yeah Nate Nate on euphoria is it tough watch so I'll be curious how the Alordie fans who haven't watched euphoria how they feel about it how many how many tell me lies season said we had since euphoria right a five I don't know a lot of the euphoria playbook and you know I don't tart to I don't think you can I don't have a great feeling about the season that I've heard I've heard from a couple people that it's really good I watched they sent over like

three episodes oh you watched my did watch them yeah so were you happier not happy I thought they were really good but again there's just this like you're watching these incredible actors you know

it like about with but with as always kiss euphoria you kind of feel grimy watching it like you don't

feel great after watching an episode of euphoria you feel grimy I feel Sam Levinson is like one of the most divisive people making television right now but is in day is incredible in it and that's just

the best thing to watch the whole cast is really good so are you watching imperfect women on apple

you said with that one right no should I be what do you think this and if you put if you put actors and I've seen on an apple box with some sort of somebody died I'm probably gonna watch I just am how often are you looking at your iPad what's the iPad percentage ratio for that show oh my god I would say 70% on the iPad doing stuff and then 30% looking up but I think I know what's happening for the most part my wife likes it it's catching

three actresses at strange points of their career or all of them were probably bigger stars seven years ago and they all kind of just combined together for this pretty generic crime I mean all these shows seem the same like everybody's worried about what AI is gonna do for TV shows it's like hey there's a murder whoa so backwards oh if this person did it that's the thing you can say about

euphoria is like yeah you've never seen a show like this hey I did not write this yeah no absolutely

you know what I enjoyed though was like the comeback episode of your friends and neighbors I was actually excited to have that one back was it markers was it was that what did you you know Jimmy Mars came back yeah yeah I had a nowhere he's playing a billionaire he's playing a brush confident billionaire and I did it for you and so no looking at the iPad for the your friends and neighbors season two well I'm like 70% watching that one yeah yeah all right

I like that show that was solid try and think if they're what were the other ones you've been covering I'm prestige because some of those some of them I'm not watching white love story you were kind of out on at the end right I love love story I thought the ending didn't work right I just thought the last three episodes could have yeah I thought I thought the

show peaked with the first four or five um I absolutely I don't think I've talked about it on the

podcast I I love how they recreated a lot of the early 90s stuff and you Rob talked a lot about like they really did take you back with the clothes the look the music they did they did everything really well was like as high end of a version of a crappy show as you're gonna get because it was pretty crappy yeah like the second of the last episode is them just arguing a kitchen for 50 minutes

An argument nobody overheard yeah but even that someone made up and decided i...

I thought Sarah pigeon who's the lead actress on that show was like absolutely phenomenal I thought she was so good the other guy was fine yeah he was also there so he was very handsome he was okay he looked like them which was really all that you matter I don't think the show ever really fully decided on how they felt about JFK Junior was kind of the flaw of the show it's like so it's this guy just a moron like what what are walk us through what you want us to think about this guy

because you're kind of making it seem like he's in your dim moron but you don't really want to say it well I feel like in the final episode they tried to make this like they tried to really pat themselves on the back by saying you know having constant zimmer who played her mom basically say all the coverage is about you know you're rather talking to her his sister your brother but nobody knew who my daughter was and so the show's like well we cared more about

Carolyn than we cared about JFK aren't we great but I'm just feel like they didn't really it would have been a much better show if they had to take on him which they didn't feel like they had

but I think they really created and her an interesting character that's also so weird about it though

it's that they spent I thought they really built out a excellent character there yeah he was also interesting in his own way because he wasn't really good in anything and it was just clear we were like I think it was a little older than me yeah it was clear he was just going to go in a politics and it was like all right do that you try to pass the bar we get it you try to find your way oh here's your stupid George magazine which was a terrible magazine by the way

and it was just clear it's like he's just going to run for Senator and it's going to be fine like he just doesn't want to admit to himself yet that this is how it's going to play out and then you you peel under the other part of this was like this is the kind of person who ends up becoming like a major person in politics like somebody who's clearly like they just want to like ride their bike and hook up with people play flag football everybody loved him he he he was beloved

it was like to me when Diana died and and he died it was about the same reaction at least with everybody I knew what did you make of them taking us inside of the of the crash like how they handled the whole crash sequence in the finale I actually thought it was pretty fair I thought it

could have been more critical on how stupid it was that he flew like really one of the dumbest I just

can't believe he did it yeah yeah and to do that at night and yeah it didn't really seem like he had

the experience and I just never really understood that one but I I think the missed opportunity I

would have instead of that last second or last episode where they're just fighting I was so interested in the Kennedy compound I don't think we could have spent enough time there I thought that was great yeah I love being around the dinner table when it was which he created the podcast basically going around to asking different people what they thought just what the compound was like what they did I was like I could have done another hour of it why didn't Ethel Kennedy have a podcast

that's a question well she should have she was really good at setting people up what did you think

they they the cast on a log as Ted Kennedy and then just like never used him to do anything it was

really strange so my wife who love story was her favorite piece of content that's come out I think in the 2020s ends up watching there's a show on 2B that's the loss wedding tapes of JFK junior in Carolyn I don't know if you know about this no yeah and it's somebody one of his buddies video tape the wedding and it's this whole documentary so of course my wife immediately goes from that to this and is watching it and Ted Kennedy was like a big part of the wedding and just gives this really emotional

speech at one point and it's actually it's worth if you like love story it's worth watching this documentary but I didn't feel that impacted all I always felt like he was like the man of the family and you didn't feel that from the show I don't know why well I'm saying the cast an actor I like and know in that role and so I'm just wondering if they cut him because it wasn't good maybe he was bad I mean he was doing a hard Kennedy accent swing so maybe let's be honest just

fucking Jason Clark he's right there he already did this to Chapaquittic he's available for all

of this show's probably wrapped up bird all like like bird octopus go what if that's what Jason

Clark does with the rest of his career is just Ted he Kennedy he was an incredible Ted Kennedy yeah

I really like that movie but yeah I thought I don't know why they punted on Ted maybe JFK was not close to I don't know um I said do we feel like Carolyn the show makes it seem like she's like I don't want to like the sky but there's something about them and then there's other takes and

There definitely takes them to 90s that she that she like she knew what she's...

after get him yeah she she she landed him I don't know I mean yeah that's definitely that's definitely the narrative that was prevalent at the time and then I think the show is sort of like what if it was what if the story was a little different than that so the show tried to zag against that and it was based on a book that was written I think for for her side of the story and it felt like

that's what we were getting but I thought it didn't explore JFK like was this guy just kind of

a dope and then it didn't explore her like how how can I being was she with landed this guy?

I think the problem is like if she if she went out went and like hooked up with him it

sort of begins to her will like she's like oh I don't want to be part of this world but there's something about him then there needed to be something about him that was more than just this guy extremely handsome because she was dating in extremely handsome underwear model so it's not like she couldn't get extremely handsome somewhere and so what is it about him that was so undeniably alluring that Darrell Hannah and everyone else are throwing themselves at him is it just the

Kennedy he reminds us of his dad sort of aura and if that's true then then Carolyn is yeah more more scheming than they decided to make her out inside of that show so they can't

have both ways I think I have an answer was that I think he was just tremendously handsome yeah

he sure was I mean he's somebody that was at Brown with him yeah I know somebody was at Brown with him and it was and so obviously love story everybody who intersected with them that I know they're dining on this for nine because everybody's got so many questions and he was just like look the dude was incredibly handsome and every woman loved him immediately and that's just how went and that was what his life was like they loved him women love this guy and that was it so

you know for you have to have much else going for you if that's how you will go to life I

guess I don't even know if that's the answer it was just that was the appeal was everybody was like

he they just said he just was one of those guys he'd like stop the room and he walked in

and that was it where are you on beef season two is coming out soon how do you feel about that new cast all right yeah yeah carry Mulligan I'm in Oscar Isaac I'm in Kaley's Danny Charles Milton yeah so we feel good about this TV here so far it sounds like because we're barely in April we've I mean love story was a gift that that was too much a content for us love story the pit a night at the seven kingdoms I thought was a

really successful thrones endeavor early this year yeah you know HBO's really kicking ass this year are you a DTF watch or you watch it it's done right yeah yeah I made the mistake I've watched it early and I've benched it okay so I'm keeping it up and I don't think that was the way to watch it because it was a little you weren't a little much to bang out in like two nights I thought I liked it though I didn't love it but I liked it did you like it it's not for me what was your what was your

favorite show this year was it love story or what is it what are my options I mean the pit I guess or whatever you're watching on Apple I thought love story tapped into something that I

wish happened more which is that I don't I think it was very well done not that ambitious and

was built to kind of cultivate conversation week to week and I don't think it's a show that would have succeeded on Netflix if it was just jump every episode at once I don't I thought part of the appeal of it and I don't like like to me like the bigger question which we've talked about a bunch of times is why don't people follow this model more of how to do stuff like is it better to just because I know and I've talked to people at the different streamers they're like well if it's a

binge people stay with it if it's week to week some of the audience will fall off maybe they don't stick with it past four or five weeks I get it I just think resonant and culturally for that long should is the ultimate goal of any show like my story was huge for FX because it felt like people were talking about it for seven straight weeks what also has a longer term payoff so something like the pit I think if the pair were a binge people would watch it but I don't think it would have

grown the way that you know and and so like the long term investment when you come into season two the audience is so much bigger and it can only you know sort of grow from there so I think it's a riskier move because of the shows really shitty yeah people are gonna drop off but in terms of like really getting people to emotionally buy in to get your wife crying on the couch like you want to be there I mean I know you guys binge the pit but like you want to be there weekend we got and really

feel like you know these people and you're spending time with them and every week you're checking

Back in we're laying down in Santos and all the rest and how are they doing s...

the ashton kitchens show that came out that bomb that was it like that's that's the case for sticking to the binge model because you have a show like that in a bombs releasing it every week every week yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then also you know for podcasting is better if it's week two weeks so think of the podcasters and release a show week to week that's you know you joke but that's a real thing because in the old days it was think pieces but now

it's the podcast cross with the thing pieces like they're still I saw my Apple news the other day somebody wrote a Carolyn Bissette piece that that shows been gone for 12 days somebody you're like the Atlantic or something who's like here's my Carolyn Bissette think piece and it's like this thing still going like that that asked them at it see the bigger thing to me is how many of these are left we've done ominous no complete life stories are going backwards with

the celebrity story that could do I I feel like we're kind of out at this point OJ was another great one and we did it but in general I just don't feel like there's any good ones left I don't know I feel like I've done five Diana movies I mean how many times did we go on backwards with Princess Diana we're good we need to be done yeah we need to be done oh we need to break from

I will honestly a Megan and Harry movie I'd be in on it's well they did that on lifetime and I

think it's too early to do a Megan and Harry like we need some distance from this stuff you know is it too early like if you if you just can take liberties and go nuts like like we know we don't know what happened in the jet like to have an entire episode of them arguing the kitchen and having no idea if it didn't happen that tells me like you can you could do whatever you want yeah and not get sued by Megan and Harry oh true they are alive yeah we would sue the

love story people I guess the family yeah yeah all right Joanna here's what I'm looking from

from for from you in the future I want you to nail a TV show about podcasting I think only you can do it Bill Simmons so give us that honestly it's like it's like hacking it's like how there's never been a good show about computer hackers or move like any even like sneakers which we did on the rewatchable there's very little hacking in the hacking show what do hackers hackers well it's just tough though because you can't keep the podcast topical true

okay and alternatively alternatively a Harry and Megan movie and or TV show no I don't

want that I just think I think somebody's gonna watch it yeah I think I think that's one of the

few ones left I mean the bill the bill Clinton one was it was a big mess I just that just didn't work and get it and but there's more I like to the Versace one though I thought that was actually pretty cool great that was like what how many years ago like five six years ago that was excellent I think longer than I would know it was between OJ and the Clinton one and I think I think Versace is a really good example of one that like not it wouldn't occur to any of us to do the Versace case I

think so when you're sitting here thinking about like when you're thinking about the big ones but I think the best model to go for is like go for some of the smaller stories so we know less

about you know like I think when you give us OJ was incredible and we all knew so much about OJ

and it still taught us things we didn't know but Versace I think was even like I think about Versace more because I knew nothing about that story so like find us a smaller story that you can sort of teach us everything about and that's something OJ and four. It's really good Versace. What's the big nerd culture movie coming this year? Doom Part 3 are you are you excited for Doom Part 3? That's definitely okay. Very well done let's do movies. They sold out the 70 millimeter

IMAX as screenings sold out within a couple hours they put them online today so people are people are excited despite how they're ready. We've figured out everything. Yeah they tried to do it 12 13 years ago with three day. They three events and people just don't like wearing three glasses and now they figured out these IMAX things are now events. Yeah and they nailed it. Congratulations

everybody. All right join Robots and great see you as always thanks for coming up. Thanks Bill.

All right that's it for the podcast thanks to Kevin Wildes and Nathan and Joanna and Gahal and Eduardo as always don't forget new rewatchables was up Monday night adding the cruisers.

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