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“that Grandpa is the next owner from the state of New York.”
[MUSIC] >> Bernie Sanders, and what's the expression? Birds of a feather campaign together? Maybe. Bernie Sanders wants platform to be the next senator from the state of Maine.
The primary is today. It's Michael Pelke in for Chris Plant on the Chris Plant Show. The interesting thing about Bernie Sanders and Graham Plattener, they both seem to have similar views, not just politically, but if you go back to Bernie's early writings about sex,
they seem to run kind of parallel to Graham Plattener's.
Interesting how no one's made that connection. We will see Plattener expected to win the primary, the Democrat primary in Maine today.
“And then he would likely, unless the Democrats do the old Okido Flipporuski,”
he will likely face Susan Collins in the fall election of Ember III. We will see, as I said, it's Michael Pelke in for Chris Plant. Happy to be here. You're welcome to join us at any time, triple eight six three zero. Nine six two five eight eight six three zero nine six two five.
We have covered the president's attendance at the NBA finals game three last night. I'm hoping, I'm hoping he goes to game four because it's excellent content because it drives the Democrats nuts. And now that we have a game five happening, maybe the spursal invite him to visit San Antonio.
Maybe the invite Scott Pelke, Scott Pelke, born in San Antonio, maybe he'll show up there as well. Going on today, hearings in DC as relates to the southern poverty law center. An organization that for years was doing the bidding of the Democrat party.
“And just now we're seeing serious investigations into what the SPLC was doing.”
With the money they collected as a nonprofit and organizing fake fake protests. That were meant to smear Republicans earlier this morning in a house hearing. Jim Jordan on the House Judiciary Committee. He's the chairman was talking about the SPLC. And is confirming something that I had not heard before that the Biden Department of Justice
actually dropped the case against the SPLC. This is really stunning to me. This scam that they were running, they knew the SPLC was doing this. But they didn't pursue the case, they dropped the case.
What were they doing? What was the SPLC doing? They were paying people to pose as or they were paying members of the KKK to show up. Neil Nazis, KKK members, paying them even though they're saying, "Oh, no, we're the people fighting the racism." Because when you meet with them, when you consult with them, when you have them train your prosecutors,
you're not going to prosecute them. No. Yeah, the SPLC was meeting with the administration, was training prosecutors as well. We're not going to do it because it's too valuable politically. And here's the scary part.
And I'm sure we'll have questions from Mr. Fair later on about this. Here's the scary part. It all worked. Field Source 37, the guy at the Charlottesville Rally helped plan that rally, coordinate transportation there.
It was paid to attend after the event. Again, after the event where a lady was killed, the southern probably lost center almost tripled their income.
51 million to 133 million. After they were coordinated the hate that took place,
that crazy rally. You run a scam, you become the standard, you don't get prosecuted, you make a ton of money. They got 800 million assets, 700 million in an endowment, such a deal. And they would've gotten away with it, but for the oversight of Congress,
more importantly, the work of the Justice Department. So God bless the attorney general and the work him and his team are doing. And we'll look forward to hearing from our witnesses today and asking them questions with that. I would yield to the ranking. You know what I would like to say? I would look forward to Perpox.
I would look forward to people actually being charged. I would look forward to people going to prison. Just as I will look forward to people going to prison for stealing money from the American taxpayer. I look forward to hearing that the Department of Justice not only is in dieting those people in the Southern poverty law center.
I look forward to hearing that the Department of Justice is in dieting
everybody involved with the fraud in Minnesota that we know is in the billions and billions of dollars.
“We keep hearing nine billion, at least nine billion, maybe as high as $18 billion in fraud.”
And yesterday the vice president was blasting governor walls over the widespread fraud in the state. And the statement that came out from James Colmer's committee saying that the the house is saying that walls and Keith Allison likely had to know what the hack was going on. They had to have an idea on it. The vice president who is now the fraud zone.
And I guess now I can make a bit of breaking news because I left the White House to come here to do this interview with you. And before I did, we actually referred this particular case to the Department of Justice for a full criminal investigation. We are not going to do what the Biden administration did and make judgments of the law before all the
facts are in. But here's what's particularly troubling about this to me is just you had people
within Governor Waltz's office who were saying you know what this looks like fraud. It looks like these Somalia illegal immigrants are doing something that's very shady. And then you had people who shut them down, who shut these whistleblowers down and said you're a racist or you're a xenophobic for asking questions about where taxpayer money is going. What that means to me, Jesse, is that clearly people weren't taking fraud seriously, whether it rises to the level of a criminal
violation. We're going to investigate it. And of course, if it does rise to that level, we're going to prosecute it. We have to. We have to. It's right. But we also have to make sure this is done all in the open. I will not be happy. I will not be cheering on any of this. All these constant appearances saying, oh, yeah, yeah, we've got this until again, someone is purport. Someone is handcuffed and led out of their government office. We know that whistleblowers
were threatened with all kinds of issues. They've jobs politically persecuted because they were blowing the whistle and it came out of Waltz's office and it came out of Keith Ellison's office. So we need to get to the bottom of it. We need to have something happening. Got to grab a couple of calls here. We'll get into more on this. There's more on the Southern
“poverty loss center. I think Pamela Jaya Paul was flagging her guns on it. We'll get to that as well.”
But I see some calls are coming in. Let us check in with Choney in Manassas, Virginia. Hello, Tony. Welcome to the Chris Blancho. Thank you, Sarah. I appreciate you taking my call. My pleasure. What's up? Well, I, you know, main being is a very quirky state. Okay, obviously. And they're, they're putting a gold medal on that description with the platinum fella. But I just want to let everyone know. There are some very fine policy people running for
for big office and one of them is the Republican side of the gubernatorial race. We've got a guy up there and he is an absolute patriot. He's a road scholar. He's an attorney. He was chief of staff to Colin Powell when he was the secretary of state. He then went and took
control of a $4 billion budget for INL, which is the international narcotics and law enforcement liaison.
He's a family man. He is, and he, and you probably know, but most people don't. I mean, the state of Maine doesn't pay very much for these for the governors. You broke up on here. You broke out. You're breaking up on me. Who are we talking about? Bobby Charles. He's a Republican.
“He was ahead in the polls right now. He's, I think he's about 36 to 38 points ahead of the”
Bush kid who was running up there for governor. But like I said, he's a road scholar. He's a tremendous patriot. He's a, you know, an attorney and, you know, very, very smart guy. And he's been in government, done, you know, served his country kind of thing. And now he's gone home to Maine to to try to, you know, you know, write the ship up there. And does he have a shot? I mean, he's leading. You got seven, you got seven Republicans in the primary there. And he's currently got the big number.
But overall, you have Angus King's kid who's running on the Democrat side. And I think now that Janet Mills has termed limited. So she's out of there. But is Maine reliable enough? There are enough of reliable Republicans and will the president endorse a Republican candidate in Maine? Yeah, and that's the question, isn't it? And, and then the real question, but I, that is,
Would that help or would that hurt?
Maineers will come to their senses and comment senses what you've been talking about and I appreciate
“that. But, I mean, this is a guy that is, you know, so qualified and he's a pragmatic person.”
And, you know, someone that may need, and we need that, we need that governorship, you know, for, you know, for the national scene as well. Isn't there correctly, if I'm wrong, I remember a while back, there was a guy in Maine who was a Republican and went to become an independent, uh, Bennett, the Senate name ring about. And he's, he's also running for governor as well. Yes, that, yes, my, that's my understanding. He is, he is running as an independent, yes.
But, like I, like I was saying, I mean, I, I work with Bobby Charles, several times and he is, uh, he's just a guy that gets things done. And again, like, you know, I love the way you're highlighting this. I know you're, you know, kind of, been cheating there. But you're doing a great job, because what we're trying to do is trying to get people to just go back to comment, freaking sense.
“Yeah, this would be unbelievable. I, I think the president won the election in 2024 talking about”
common sense more often than not. And there's an opportunity now as we're seeing, uh, these, these little explosions of socialism slash communism in places like New York and California and Seattle and Portland and even in Chicago. And then alongside of them, there should be a bunch of people going, hold on a second. You a man can't become a woman, a woman can't become a man. You got quit calling them gestating persons or non-gestating persons. Let's just talk about common freaking sense.
And it may has always been a main and new hamster, have always been places that you look at
and people seem to have level heads and common sense and want to just not have all the sugar coding on things. And here's my question, because your, your buddy Bobby Charles, who is the front runner for the GOP nomination, he will likely have to face an independent in this former Republican and that could split the vote. So there is, uh, there's a chance a Democrats get the benefit of splitting the votes of people who are on the side of more conservative issues. So that, that always
worries me, that always is a concern for me. So I'm going to keep watching it. I'm, obviously, invested in it mentally here watching these things. I'd like to see Maine have a, uh, a good strong common sense conservative governor, uh, but I'm, I'm a wait and see guy, and I hope he does well, uh, good luck to him. And, and thank you for sharing your thoughts on that. Appreciate you. Uh, let us see. We grab one more Andres in Frederick, Maryland. Hello, Andrew. Welcome to the
Chris Plant show. Just make it quick here. I wanted to add a free fix to coil the channel of ignorant liberals, um, really entitled should be before that. And then it would be read coil. Oh, I like that. And then the other one I came to tell my team up with is another network all liberal or fatal. Another network all liberal. I, I, I, I don't know if the merchandise department will let us get away with that one. Another network all liberal. Yeah, maybe it's a
special show. Special spin off. Um, MSNBC MS 13 now. Thank you for that Andrew. Appreciate it. It's Michael Pelkin taking a break on the Chris Plant show. Café in a best and form. With Cuba, we'll take a café off Knopfdruck for some genus moment. Then with the new Cuba one capsule machine from Chivo, Genie's to the finest spits in café, especially on the unbought. Full Monday, Arômen, thank innovative press
brutation logie and over 17-sorten café for every smuck. Eleba Premium Café, from up 19-20 euros. And that creates the Cuba capsule machine in Diner, Chivo, Fiale and off Chivo.DE and welcome back to the Chris Plant Show, Michael Pelkin and for Chris Plant. Boy, there's a lot of stuff going on today. And there are more more people who are upset about Donald Trump showing up the next game, which makes me happy because if you
“could get them all angry about the president actually having a life, remember how Joe Biden”
just spent time at the beach? What they never showed you was how much of the beach in lower
slower Delaware was blocked off because they had to protect Joe laying down on the beach.
Maddening.
run after home run and the frauds are rolled he has taken on. So we'll keep watching that. The
“Steve is calling from Miami. Miami, Oklahoma, Steve, that's what it says in my screen. I didn't”
know there was a Miami in Oakland. I knew there's one in Ohio and one in Florida. Of course, are you in Oklahoma? Steve, are you with us? Wow, yeah, for some reason I was hearing you and somebody else coming through. It's actually, it's felt like everybody down in Florida calling Miami, but here in Oklahoma, we pronounce it as Miami. That's that name of the tribe. The city was named for. Really? I did not know that. So is Miami Florida also an Indian tribe name?
No, no. In fact, if you put me on the spot, there is an actual native tongue for how to pronounce it,
but it's as they say here in Oklahoma, too many moons of past. I can't remember how to say it. I never
did say it very well. That's okay, many moons ago, many moons ago. You're calling the Minnesota in the fraud. What's your thought, Steve? Well, my thought is, why can't we or the vice president of Mr. Vance get the state department or whoever we need to get and try to
“recover some of that soul and money that was taken to, I believe, Somali land, you know? Yeah,”
that would be, because they do know that there was money regularly going out of the Minneapolis airports and headed directly internationally, and it's a lot of money that was going out. I know also because we've watched Dr. Oz, who heads up CMS, the Medicare system, has shut off the faucet of money unless people can prove that they are legitimate providers of health care, whether it's the hospice services they found that were fake in California or the fraudulent medical
services in Minnesota. So I know they're at least shutting off the spigots, but I like the way you think, Steve, because we need to get back some of that stuff. We need to get back some of the the Ferrari's and Mercedes that were bought and some of the bank accounts and houses that were built and that money needs to go back into the treasury. It is disgusting to me. It's infuriating to me as well. So until we see the per box, those Steve, I'm not going to be happy. Still, we see people
going to prison. It's going to infuriate me. We should talk about it. I will, I will play the clip that shows you just how widespread the fraud is. It's not just Medicare and Medicaid and some of the the crazy numbers you've seen. There are a whole lot of dead people getting health care benefits and getting food supplements. It's truly unbelievable. It's Michael Pelke in for Chris Plant on the Chris Plant Show.
“And it's a very important thing to do with the fact that he's a fanciful. So how the chances of”
attractive is a price. So let's start with the fact that he's a fan bonus in the Rewe app, but at the end of the year he's only 17. But we start thinking, is anything really going to happen? And you start seeing the numbers
that are being quoted. When we heard just out of Minneapolis, Minnesota, the $9 billion in fraud,
$9 billion. What could we do with $9 billion? A lot. And just not spending it on people that hate us would be a great start, not giving $900 or $9 billion to people that don't like us that want to see us destroyed or just want to bleed us dry. Just would like to see that stop. Then you go to California
You see the hospice scams and the same kind of welfare scams that we're going...
And you see it in Ohio and you hear about it in Maine and you hear about it in Washington state as well.
“And what did they have in common? Oh my goodness, there's a lot of blue stateism stuff happening.”
So what is it about fraud in blue states? I don't know. I mentioned the story out of the U.S. D.A. office where Secretary Brook Rollins made the announcement of a crackdown on abuse in the food stamp world. We've been hearing several different ways that the government's trying to be smarter with the support we give to people, with making sure the safety net really does what it's supposed to do. And that's help people and not enrich people who are taking advantage of the system.
Because people will need help. There will be people and we've all had times when it's been tough. And you like to think we live in a country where our fellow citizens if they needed a hand up would reach out and we would offer them that hand up, not a hand out, but a hand up.
“And that's what food assistance is meant to be. So when Brook Rollins made the statement”
that the red states have been very forthcoming in sending the roles of people they're giving food assistance to through snap programs, supplemental nutrition assistance programs. We love those acronyms, snap programs. Brook Rollins said they got the roles from the red states and they found 200,000 dead people getting food stamps 200,000 people getting food stamps. And on top of it, a half a million people getting more than one benefit, meaning people were
double dipping. She explained it on Fox the other day in a letter to every governor in America. No one had ever held the state's accountable. The federal government funds the food stamp program.
We send hundreds of millions of dollars a day to the states, but there'd never been a back end
accountability on how is that money getting spent? So we've been doing this hundreds of millions of dollars a day from the Treasury going out to states all over the country where people are saying they need the safety net to help them out, which I'm all for being generous and helpful to our brothers and sisters, our fellow citizens. But not to watch where the money goes, is just flat out stupid. We're dumb. We're not being smart. It's a stunning number. All the states to partner with us
is time to have accountability. The red states, of course, did. And with that red state data, we found 200,000 dead people getting food stamps. We found half a million people that were getting more than one benefit. And y'all, this was in the red states. The blue states wouldn't give us the data. There's what? The blue states wouldn't give us the data. Cut them off. Seriously, if we're giving you money to help you out, shouldn't we ask for some sort of
“verification that you're using the money for the reason that you asked us to give it to you?”
This goes for a long with some of the student loans that go to buy cars or pay rent. No, we're paying you to go to school to help you go to school. But the fact that these are all
blue states that are doing this kind of tells you where the problem is. So we're in massive litigation
right now looking to cut those funds off until they give us that data. But the fraud is so rampant and so stunning that when the president, the vice president and our team talks about, you know, when we can root all this fraud out, we're going to really be able to cut the deficit, make sure we're protecting the taxpayer, but not to make sure we're protecting the families that rely on these programs at the same time by getting the fraud out. Yeah. So you get the fraud out.
That means the program can live longer. You get rid of the fraud and the people who really need it and there will be a constant rotation of people. Some not everybody's going to be on a assistance forever. That is the idea. That's the idea behind a hand up, not a hand out.
And yeah, there will be a tiny percentage of the population that will never be able to take
care of itself and that's kind of what a generous and loving society does. But the level to which the fraud has grown in red states 200,000 dead people getting food stamps. Now, we don't know
For how long that happens because who knows how that process of taking somebo...
is terminated when they die. But the 500,000 double dipers and we know for certain that some of
“those food assistance programs get absolutely resold on the streets. Interesting. The phone lines have”
been open and they're very active today. I appreciate everybody joining the program. Triple 8, 630, 9625, 888, 630, 9625. Let's go to Arlington, Virginia and talk to Carlo. Hello, Carlo. Welcome to Chris Blanchio. Thanks, Mike. Thanks, take my call. Yes. Well, you're talking
about $9 billion in Minneapolis. I've heard the number goes up to maybe 18 billion. Yes.
And the thing that gets me is I see these things on Facebook. Oh, they're going to investigate it. I don't think anything's going to happen to her. And you have you know that Tim Waltz built his pocket to knew what was going on. And I'd love to see him in a orange jumpsuit. But unfortunately, I don't think that's going to happen. No. No, it really feels like once you're in the system as elected official, there's a certain amount of protection that's afforded to you
from either side of it. It really is infuriating. And especially with the smugness on the face of Ilhan Omar, if you've seen some of the hallway interviews where she's confronted by conservative reporters. And she has flat out said, I don't have to tell you S. I don't have to answer any of your questions. I have absolutely no trust in the system as it relates to that woman. And I feel like they're laughing at us. And eventually we'll get tired of it. Eventually, the people that keep
re-electing these folks will get tired of it. But somebody's got to go to jail. Someone's got to pay the price sooner, hopefully rather than later. But thank you, Cargo, appreciate you. Let's go to Ross and only Maryland. Hello, Ross. Welcome to Chris Plantio. All right. Thank you. Nice to hear your voice. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. It's great to be here.
I'd like to help put that $8 billion in perspective. That's $8,000 people getting a million dollars each.
Okay. That's all I want to say. That's, well, you know, that's an 8,000 people getting a million dollars each with the fraud for $8 billion. I wish I were one of them. Thank you, Cargo. Thank you. I appreciate the clarity out there. When you start looking at these numbers that it breaks down to, one would that do to benefit your community? What would that do to help the school in the town where you live? What would that do to help the after school programs? And instead,
that money is going into cash, into suitcases, into planes flying out of the country. It's inferiority. Mark is an independent Missouri. Hello, Mark. Welcome to the Chris Plantio.
“Nice. Thanks, Michael. I think the problem, this is not my main purpose in the call, but”
these food stamps program is corrupt by nature. I mean, there's no way federal government should be taking care of the poor. That belongs to the state. And even the Constitution article 1, Section 8 has a very specific things Congress can do. So this whole welfare state has got out of hand even with Medicare, Medicaid, the war on poverty. They're all corrupt and they're all broke. I mean, I don't think I don't have any idea how to change it and get it back to the states,
but it was never meant to be that way. And people were actually taken care of by local charities,
by even in hospitals, Catholic hospitals, and things like that. Before all this welfare state came about, I mean, Margaret Alaska is written a great book that tragedy of American compassion. And he points all this out that there are all sorts of organizations to care of people with food and things like that. And just getting a check from Washington doesn't help anyone. It doesn't make them accountable. You can go there. And there's so much fraud and just signing up for this. I mean,
there's people that might have a couple living together. One can say that they're poor. The other is not. And they live in a fancy place with their S, you know, their SUVs and things like,
“I've seen it. And it's just crazy all over in these. I think the real problem is that the federal”
government is in this business in the first place. They were very, it's supposed to be very limited when they were founded. Now, they've become, I mean, we've become a welfare state this country. And it's 20% of the people don't work that could work. And they're just on welfare. They can do that. They
Scan the system.
And the people in Washington can't keep track of all this. It has to get back to subsidiary
“and local. And, or I think it's just going to keep being out of control. No matter how good the”
intentions of the Trump administration and the agricultural secretary are. So, well, that while I was listening to you on the phone. Well, you're not wrong, but the federal government does give grants to the states and they administer their own SNAP programs. But we have to have guardrails on that system that either puts work requirements on those who can do something and give back in some way to the community or we have to put the limits on how it can be used. We've all seen the viral
videos of people who are using SNAP cards to try and purchase things that aren't food. And now when
you put a limitation on what food can be purchased. You're saying, okay, no more sugary drinks,
no more candy. We're called evil in mean. But I don't think that's a bad idea to put restrictions on what people can eat to try and not create a nation of obese, lazy folks. It's just something I would like to see a little better attitude on it. But what was your other point real quickly before you take a break? On the, on President Trump being at the NBA game, for some reason I get a bunch of Facebook posts from TV stations around the country news departments. And it was like,
I'm canny, every one of them, their main story was President Trump gets food at the NBA game. It's like their robots. They're all hate President Trump. So much, even with these local stations, that they're desperate to grab for anything. All these leftist outlets, that was their main story. And it's not even hardly, I mean, he may have gotten food. It's New York City, but there was
“USA chance. I think he talked about that earlier, I didn't hear that, but it's, yeah, it's just”
uncanny how these media stations are so on edge and they're hatred of President Trump that they make a non-story into a major event. So part of the problem mark is that there are small market television stations that are owned by bigger groups. And they feed the story to them overnight. So when you come into work at W, whatever it is in some small town, you got your network news feed. And so they're all just replaying that same headline that comes out of the mother ship.
And we've even played the video where they're all saying exactly the same thing all the time across the country. And it's a shame. Part of that is the economics of operating those stations and that when you're affiliate, it's easier to say or just run the newsfeed. But it's laziness. It's not being honest. And yeah, there were, there were cheers, there were booze, there were chance of USA USA USA and it's only getting reported by the people who have the control that it was
Trump being boot as we expected. But thank you for the clarity on the welfare. It's a key point.
I appreciate you. Grant, one more here, Amy and Warranton of Virginia. Hello, Amy. Hey, how's it going? Mike, you're a great stand-in for Chris. Thanks. I just want to say that I feel like the Republicans are really missing a huge opportunity here. Blue collar workers went over to Trump's side. I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I come from a long line of steel workers. And in 2016, my brother said the union was pushing
as usual for all the blue collar workers to vote Democrat. But they were all had Trump stickers in there on the back of their cars. And I think the blue collar workers really do not like this fraud the most. And I just wish the Republicans were the commercials. They should be highlighting this, the White House should be putting out commercial after commercial all across the country, holding over more blue collar workers and using this fraud to their advantage.
You have hit on a really simple and strong idea to show, and you know, the problem part of this, Amy, I anticipate, is that if you have blue collar steel workers, auto workers, coal miners, whatever, who say, I work so hard to make 60 grand a year to support my family. And when I see the Somali fund going out of the country, it infuriates me. You'll be called the racist.
“That's what I'm sure they're a little nervous about that. But the success of the campaign that”
Donald Trump led in the election in 2024, that said, "Comala Harris is for they, them, Donald Trump is for you." That can't be denied. If we could crystallize this argument around the welfare fraud to say Donald Trump is for the people who need this, the working class, we can make this country better again. I think they could have a winner. I think they're afraid of the racism, because the left is not afraid to deploy it any time. Good point, Amy,
Very good point.
I have the hypocrisy award winner of the day, sunny Austin, on why she's having a hard time celebrating
“America's 250th anniversary. It's so good. It's Michael Pelcom with you, in for Chris Plant on the”
Chris Plant Show. It is the Chris Plant Show. Michael Pelcom is sitting in for my friend Chris Plant this week, as he's vacationing. Thanks for being there. Big thanks to Jasmine, who's been handling
the phones quite deftly today, as she always does, and Michael Peercy for backing me up and
tracking down crazy things. I say hey, I remember this, and suddenly he has it. It's a miracle. It's amazing. I had a lot of fun today, covered a lot of things. I want to get to a couple of interesting and ironic things. Yesterday, the Democrats were posting the video of a bunch of young
“men from the, I think it's the gay man's chorus from Los Angeles, and they were singing quite”
beautifully, a classic rock song. So they sing, and they dance, and they sing, we're not going to take it anymore, as they are struggling during the mid-terms. Of course, we're not going to take it anymore. The funny thing about this is that song from twisted sister, an anthem.
“We're not going to take it anymore. We're fed up. That was Donald Trump's first campaign song”
back in 2050, just maybe laughed to think about that. And then I said the, the most tone-deaf coming to the day, we got to talk about sunny Austin, who was asked about celebrating America's 250th birthday. And she has a problem celebrating America's 250th birthday. So you want me to celebrate 1776, and my ancestors were not free. Wait, what? We're not independent. Didn't get independence. I mean, think about that. Yeah, we did think about it. And we wasn't
back and we did the homework on sunny Austin and did the genealogical research that was presented on a PBS show about your family's history. sunny Austin comes from a family that was, as they said, likely involved in the slave trade. You can't have it both ways, sunny. Make up your mind.
Boy, the truth is a wonderful thing, isn't it? Have a great day. Enjoy every sandwich.
