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abandon the crime." "Rand Paul, nails it exactly right, but this is not a buck on him, but just a strategic point. I don't know how much of that advances the goal that we have in these midterm elections to settle.

I don't know how much of that advances our goal here in this election. To really hash up the issues that matter going forward.

I think maybe it advances the side that would rather not talk about what their real agenda

is here. We're going to get to that in a minute, and so that's my only concern.

Because I think that Rand Paul, the people that he is going to have persuaded he will have persuaded

people, congressional hearings are synonymous with boring. We have C-Span, we can watch C-Span, but it's synonymous with, they talk a lot, you know about you, you could talk his way around anything, and so I would just like to see until we have something big people are going to by necessity, look forward. People are going to do what they did with Winston Churchill.

I was a little more complicated, but they didn't need Votem out after World War II because they didn't like that he likened the opposition, the labor and liberal party to the National Socialists that had just been defeated, and he said that they want socialism here, which we just defeated, and people were offended by it. So the past, although they did bring Churchill back, the past does not move you on.

It's Tom Coltrane, I'm told it's still not the spin doctors. Gosh, why do I have the spin doctors in my mind? Oh, well, I guess because I'm spinning here to try to make my music on the odd time better than this. Again, this is why I bring bumper music from home, which was a cardinal sin all those

years on the European network, bringing bumper music from home. I could still hear Rush saying it, not allowed, but he would allow us to, because he rarely was a lovable fuzzball. If you listened, you knew Rush.

I still have people who tell me I wish I'd gotten a meet him, and I always say if you

heard him on the radio, you did meet him, and he saw you, he saw all of you, as I try to see all of you here today. And when we talk about Fauci, I mentioned to you, Donna, Donna, thank you so much for holding. We'll go to Donna here and see, Donna, is your big showbiz break, and I want you to feel

free to give me your perspective and push back.

If I probe you, it is not because I think you are wrong in any way, but I want to get

the mentality, because I could be wrong here. I'm willing to be persuaded. So tell me what you think here, Donna and Frederick Maryland, about Fauci and the things that he tried to normalize. Oh my goodness, they're so much in that question alone.

You know, we're talking about normalization, you know, over the years, these communist and neocons have incrementally brainwashed the public, the world in general, and, you know, I'm looking at what they've done, you mentioned normalization, we'll look at the schools, everybody gets in the ward, you know, we look at the window theory you mentioned, well, that's a green light for the criminals, and they've acted upon that in all our major cities,

and then we look at the gender persuasion and the pedophilia and all the perversion there. Now we get to the Fauci hearings, and these, of course, he's going to plead to test, why wouldn't he? What else has he got left?

And, you know, here's the thing, we've got all these pending court cases with grand jury.

I think we'll learn a lot about that, and most of these things are based on the predicate of following the money, the money is discovery, discovery leads to accountability, it just takes time. So that's where I think people get impatient and rightfully so, there is nothing that justifies a, I'm going to affectionately call it a bioweapon, being injected into people,

and I know people who've died from this, whether it be from harder rhythmia, or whether it be from them suffocating in some kind of unit to supposedly help them, breathe better. This whole thing with the vaccine and the supposed COVID, which in my humble opinion, if they're looking at the bears for years, and knowing how they distinctly removed the flu from

All those numbers, I'm inclined to think it was a modified version of the flu...

an opinion, just like my opinion about the vaccines are.

Well, who, I mean, I'm asking Donna, Donna, wait, Donna, wait, Donna, wait, I want to give you a chance to take a breath, and I appreciate it, you're so smooth there, you are an excellent caller, you bring everything, and you make the host look good, that's a college job, at least it was in my day, and that's I appreciate that. And my focus right now is on that politics side of it, and I wonder how many people that

you speak to in your daily life, when you talk about it, are going to be persuaded, and I would love to maybe get back to some of these things after, but I think, from my perspective, the way that they've handled this and the way you're looking at it is really correct.

So look at things from the overarching perspective, because you mentioned some of that,

I would say truly demonic stuff that is part of the agenda in the country, and we look at the bigger picture, and we say these aren't just isolated things, you look at these agenda items that you're speaking of, and I'm going to get to a clip or multiple clips about the socialists, the democratic socialists, as they call themselves, because you put a qualifier

and you maybe confuse people, that's why they do it, democratic socialists, and all these

agenda items that they have, and it's not feel to the Constitution. And so that's what you're getting, or that's what you're getting at with your comments is, it's not crazy to question things. I mentioned my science background. It's fundamental to science. I wrote a column in the Washington Times about the song, a spoonful of sugar, from Mary Poppins. That was written because that's how they got children to take the polio vaccine. They

put it in a sugar cube, it was sweet. Maybe some of you remember doing that way back when that was how you did it. You didn't hold the kids down and cram it into them and say, you take it because I know better. That's part of the medical business, and I know because when I was vaccinating, I would be vaccinating cats and dogs. And if you think you can get a needle

in a schnauser, easily, or a cat much less, because they're always moving, it's not that easy

to do. You have to really work with them. And that was what I objected to throughout this process

was the arrogance of a doctor, Fauci. And some people like that. Some people like taking somebody like you, Donna, and saying, you're going to do exactly what I say. You don't know anything. And I instinctively recoil from that no matter who it is. If there was no attempt to say, hey, we rush this vaccine, you can get a fast vaccine, or you can get a good vaccine. There was no acknowledgement of the fact. And I've seen this happen. I back in my veterinary days, I would give hundreds of vaccinations.

There was never a reaction. But I remember one time, a little puppy. I was so surprised by the reaction as a technician that I didn't really move very fast. We didn't save this puppy. He immediately became pale. He immediately stopped breathing. We had to rush over and get him going again, because he had a bad reaction. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's a fact. Same thing with the masks. If you wear a mask, it's like wearing a condom. They're not full proof. But throughout the 80s,

just like with the masks, you tell people, sure, you put this on and it's magic. There's no nuance. They love to talk about nuance and tell us we're not nuance. Well, of course, if there's all this anti, your anti-vaxxer, anti-sa, that to me, it's a screaming, screaming memey in my head of a missile of lies coming at me because that's our well-ean new speak. People love to cite Norwell, the great Christopher Hitchens, the late Christopher Hitchens, a famously said, if you're going to

quote Orwell, go arm to the teeth because he will surprise you. And as a historian, I haven't mentioned yet that I host the history author show. You can go find that at historyother.com, because I'm not here to plug stuff. I'm like a lot of people that are out there in the radio world. Nobody here, of course, that you're listening to. But you look at them and you say, I'm willing to be surprised

and Orwell, when you wrote 1984 and talked about how they would dumb the language down. That's what

new speak was. Didn't just mean these new terms and things. It meant they were trying to change the language. And if you could take a word, this is the example they used in 1984, Orwell does, of good. You already have good. That's fine. So just put in anti-good. Dumb people down limit their vocabulary. So even if they want to express a notion that Big Brother is on good, as he said, you could say that as he wrote, but you wouldn't be able to expound on that. You wouldn't be able to

use the words that would detail your argument and your thought. And throughout COVID and throughout a lot of these things that I hear you mentioned there, Donna, we're told you can't talk. And I cannot stand that. I immediately recall from that. Maybe it's the Greek in me. We don't like to be told to be quiet. And I think some people do. I know Massana like a universal trait. But no, I know I do not like to be told that you can't speak. And it doesn't mean that you're a nasty about it. It doesn't mean that

You're angry about it.

of what we used to call conversations. You know, the great, the great comedian. He's just a hilarious guy. What's his name? Alonzo. I'm here. I'm talking him up, but I, and I'm forgetting what his last

name is. But his name is Alonzo. And he's his first name anyway. Alonzo bought it and that's it.

And he has this great bit which I've tweeted out and he was, he was very kind on Twitter. And he said, there used to be a time. He's a guy like me probably in his 50s. I don't know where you are on the spectrum. Donnie, Sam are young and wise for your age. And he does a bit and he says there was a time when you had something go down. And you had the people who knew S that stuff that Ronald Reagan used to tell this joke and say that stuff that best Truman spent their entire

life trying to get Harry to call him manure. So the people who knew manure would get together and they would try to think. And the people who didn't know anything would hang in the background. And they would listen and someone would come up to one of those people and say, hey, what are you doing? You're not saying anything to fix this problem. The guy would say, I don't know manure. I'm listening. So I can learn some manure. And sometimes you ask questions. We used to say this

thing in this country. There's no dumb questions. I don't know that we say that or think that anymore. I, that's one thing I don't like and I've done these when I worked in TV, the man on the street. You show the camera in somebody's face. They want to help you. They're happy to the opportunity. They may not so much be that anymore because people are used to being on phones. But back then, talking 30 years ago, it was a big deal. We put on TV and you didn't want to seem dumb. And you

wanted to be helpful. And then we take those and we cut them up and we mock them. And it's something

we never did on Russell and Bob the television show. We didn't want to make fun of people. We'd

cite them. And we were in New York City. Okay. So I, I tell people, I say, I see this, what's become known as Con Inc. And people who I know very well are not sincere. As I know having met and listen to Chris Plant that he absolutely is sincere. But Jeff, people who just learned well, you can make a lot of money from those rooms in middle America, but we don't really mean it. And we, with your riddles, I've had people throw names of me. You're not this. You're not that

you're not a conservative. Like, well, I was there with Rush as just a handful of us where we were Luke Skywalker, not Mark Hamill, and the Rebel Alliance with Rush in the belly of the beast in liberal Manhattan. Google talking to anybody if you weren't willing to speak to people who disagree to you. And from that grew this movement and from that grew a lot of things that brought George W Bush's presidency that brought, but it didn't mean that you shut everything out. It didn't

mean that you stopped listening and stopped teaching. And that's what a lot of these guys do. They

get no office. And that's it. It's enough. I'll stop teaching. And so I think that's the important thing. And I think that all the points you raised there. I want people to listen. It's okay. If people think as much as I presume to give you the right to do it, it's okay if people want to say, well,

I don't think that's right. Let me explain to you this or that thing. Fauci never did that.

He did what the classic worst example of a doctor is. He came in and he told you what to do. And act as if he knew everything. And now we know that he was writing down that he didn't really believe those things. But he'll tell us he thought that it was for the best. Well, that's not how things are supposed to work. I do wish that President Trump had fired the guy because I think that would have been the thing to point out. You lied to the American people about the masks knowingly

whatever your intentions were. That's not what we do in this country. You're the highest paid person by the U.S. government. You're out. You still want to consult for free. You've been paid

plenty. Go ahead and do it. Now, I don't know. I wasn't the president. But that's what I would have

like to have seen happen. At least an acknowledging of it. Force the guy to come out and give an apology for it and explain himself. I don't know that we're going to get the reckoning that you would like to hear Donna. But I would like to hear it. And I would like to hear what you think about that, rather. You think that there's going to be a reckoning. And do you hear since my first question did put a lot on you? Just briefly, do you think that we are going to get that reckoning? Do you hear

people who you speak to every day if you're out in the world who are worried about this or they more focused on other things that maybe the time which is finite would be better spent addressing? I think it's all the above. And with President Trump, I think timing's everything. I think August is going to heat up. They'll be at a session. I think things are going to really start rocking and rolling. And I think we'll also be seeing censorship. These things take time and it has a lot

to do with those cases and accountability. I think we'll get there eventually. I don't know yet

if the public is ready for the disclosure. I've seen things that you can't honestly with respect

To, the child abuse and the crimes against humanity.

one size fits all responsibility. It's not a one size fits all with how to handle the public.

I just think that we kind of need, I hate to say it, but in a way, some people need to be spoons

that a lot of it because it's very overwhelming, which is why I can't give you a definitive answer to that question. Okay, that's right. You don't much out there. Yeah. I appreciate what you did try to do in your passion. I really appreciate as well. We have a couple more people who'd like to weigh in. Thank you. All for calling. I am honored. You'd want to speak to Little Me. You could call

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Okay, I'm not even going to try to name it this time because I'll just say this because I don't

fortunately on the podcast, I should have drawn attention to it because you will not hear the music. You could think, man, deans are right about everything and someone there at the Chris Plant Show really likes a spin doctor. But I couldn't do that. I couldn't deceive all of you. I want to talk about Iran here in the time we

have before the bottom of the outbreak, which you should stick around for. Trump threatens to hit

Iran hard following missile attack on U.S. assets. Again, the writer in me, I'm not a fan of this word threatens the president says things and it should not be taken as a threat. He should act on them. Saudi Arabia has joined U.S. military strikes on Iranian proxies. And Saudi Arabia also joined the attack on Iran early in the war, which meant they were joining Israel. And I wish we had more focus. Maybe if we had a press that was more instant telling the stories of what's going on and not just favoring

one side and one narrative, that is incredible. Just think about that for a minute. I keep

sighting my own columns, but I seem to be the only one I could cite because I'm the only one saying these things. And boy, that sounded a little arrogant, didn't it? But it's true. What happened at the Arab street? Those of you all don't have to remember the two golf wars. Remember the Arab street. This was one of these abstract things that was cited just like the experts and the norms that only other people could define. That was not in our power to do so. And what happened? They didn't say

word. They haven't said a word about Israel going into Gaza. They haven't said a word about the Iran war because they're not Arabs, by the way. And you know that the people there, the Ayatollahs have been targeting them all along and been causing trouble in their back yard with their proxies like Hezbollah and Hamas. And they didn't say a word. Now you have Saudi Arabia joining the U.S. But my criticism is of this strategy, this little piecemeal approach. This is the subject of

my most recent column in the New York song. You can go read it at mysson.com. And I don't say that because I get paid by the click. I say it because I genuinely believe in our mission there. Trump's applying the art of the deal. But he's overlooking what America did to win its greatest victories. And that was, if you're going to go into a war, you do what theater Roosevelt said. The biggest sin is hitting soft. Don't hit a man at all if you don't have to. But if you do,

put him to sleep. Throw your Sunday punch. That's what I'd like to see in Iran.

Let's get back to the break. Let's hear what's going on in the world and pay some bills. Thanks so much for sticking with me. I again am your host, Dean Kerryanna, sitting in for Chris plant. Nobody like him. There's only one Chris plant. I know it because I read it on his website. Hey, welcome back to the Chris plant, Joe. I am Dean Kerryanna. Thank you for those new follow me @historydeenonx. I'm seeing a bump in figures. I guess you would call it. So I must be

doing something right. A little, a little salad field there. You like me. You really like me. I do appreciate it. I would love to talk to you more about Iran because I think it is so important. I believe that this whole notion, the governor of Kentucky, for instance, Andrew Bushier, and he's saying, "Oh, it's a war of choice. That's their big thing now. War of choice. No." And this is a,

This is the result of 50 years.

in the first half hour of this hour, about this overall, what even called a cloud of deception. The

idea we're being sold bills of goods, Iran invader embassy and we could track so much of the problems that we have ever since with Islamic terrorism back to that. And you may not know at the time, but at the time, it was the students, indeed, who seized our embassy personnel, who invaded our

country because that's what an embassy is. Now, you want to talk about norms. I want to talk about

international law. Oh, they love to talk about that. But somehow, invading sovereign US territory, which you hear on TV shows all the time, when it's talking about an embassy, something like NCIS, or any other show that deals with it, or you've seen yourself, that's US territory. That's why

people go and try to get a asylum there. That's our territory. That was our country. Those are our

diplomats. Oh, they love diplomacy, right? But somehow Iran, going in and grabbing our diplomats, terrible. Well, the Ayatollah, Komeni, I like to call them a molla because I get this image of my head that they ate that. He's sitting there saying, I did not spend two years in Ayatollah school and another two years in Ayatollah residents to be called a molla. So I like to call them molla. But the molla's under the Ayatollah, they said, what do you crazy? There's what the Ayatollah said

to the students in Iran. You can't grab Americans. Carter's going to rain fire from the skies.

Well, Carter didn't rain fire from the skies as I recall from sixth grade sitting there playing my violin. Carter instead wrote what I like to call a love letter to the Ayatollah. As one man of God to another, can we work together? That was his phrase. One man of God to another. I know. I know we're supposed to say he's such a great Christian man. He was, okay, complete misreading, complete misreading of the Ayatollah. And what did the Ayatollah say? Wait a minute. He said,

the same thing, a song been loud and would later say when Bill Clinton had his debacle block knocked down there in Sudan or Somalia, I guess it was. The Americans are a paper tiger. And so the Ayatollah came in and he said, those hostages are mine now. I'm going to keep them and use them for what I'm going to get. And this one on for 50 years, we had a brief respite there where Ronald Reagan sunk their Navy in Operation praying mantis in 1988, which was glorious. But you know what,

even then, we let one of their ships, their flagship of the Ayatollah regime, limp back to port. Now that was during the Cold War. So I could see, okay, they're an ally, but I'm sorry, they're an ally of the Soviet Union at the time, not of ours. So you wanted to de-escalate it and people don't want to go to war. But this should have been handled then. And the fact that it wasn't mean we have this situation now. And the fact that they've been screaming death to America and we've had people in America

shutting back, they don't really mean it, is a problem. That is not reality. They cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. And if you're going to, let's slip the dogs of war. That's my phrase here in the column I wrote. You don't hold them on half a leash. You you unclick the clamp there and you

let that pit bull grab the Ayatollah by the throat and rip it out. That's the only way you fight

wars. You can't fight them like this. I'm going to stop. We're going to have talks. The Ayatollahs are respecting that. What's left of them? The other day, President Trump said, we're making great progress. We're talking. They sit down. I know where there's no talks going on. We don't have to talk. Of course, they don't. They're not feeling any pain. The ones that are blown to pieces are. But even with that, the global press accepts that the Ayatollah Jr. is alive. Nobody asks for proof of life.

And we're out of we negotiate with a ghost. That guy's a Supreme dictator and make no mistake. That's another thing. Iran is a dictatorship. It is not a democracy. The Supreme dictator, the Ayatollah of the moment, he decides who can run for office. He decides what laws can be passed. He is the whole idea. Oh, it's a Parliament. And oh, the US overthrew their democratically elected government. Boy, that was a column I wrote that took a whole lot of slamming. I'm a

prolific writer in case you haven't noticed. That's a lie. It's hilarious because the people who blame the CIA are doing this CIA's bidding by spreading this story. They had one guy there.

Carmen Roosevelt, I guess it was the third. Carmen Roosevelt was there doing some photocopies

of the Shah's letter. But the Shah was head of state. He had every writer moved most of the guy he was there. And yet you have Bill Clinton, you have Barack Obama, you have a lot of people apologizing for what? No, we didn't do that. The people of Iran rose up and they wanted this guy out because he refused to leave. But that's a little bit into the weeds. What I want to see in Iran is if you're going to go and do it, the thing I mentioned at the close of the last segment,

You throw your Sunday punch or else don't do it.

a man at all if it's honorably avoidable. So okay, President here decides it's not honorably avoidable. The rest of it is, but if you do have to hit him, put him to sleep. Don't hold back. TR was a former boxer. He would have loved that octagon of the UFC fight on the White House line. I'm sure he had fights at the White House himself. He's blinded in one eye by a lucky punch

by a secret service agent and he didn't say anything to the guy because he didn't want to feel bad.

Talk about a different America, a different way of being manliness. That was TR's big thing. If you're going to go in there, be prepared, realize that as Winston Churchill said, don't believe anyone who tells you a war is going to be over quickly and going to be easy. He said this during the bore war did Winston Churchill, young man. So wise, rose age. And they hated him for it in the government at White Hall and at 10 Downing Street and in Parliament. And they said,

just be quiet. And he said, nope, the bores, you don't know what you're getting in for. They are tough fighters. The bores have great eyesight. These are the white South Africans because they're out there and those belts all the time. I don't know what the Dutch word is for velter but the English word is. But he said, it's not going to be over quick and easy. They want to fight. They will fight and they did and the UK ended up enmeshed in two wars down there with the bores,

really to get their gold. And TR decided that, I'm sorry, Churchill, Churchill decided to go and cover it and he said, they're fighting. They're going to fight. You don't believe anyone who tells

you a war will be over quick and easy because there wouldn't be a war in the first place if the

other guy, the other side, didn't think they had a chance. He wrote this in his memoir the first one. My early life. And that's true. And I'm glad to finally see the administration at least going after due use infrastructure. This was another ridiculous thing. Oh gosh, you can't, you can't possibly hit a road in a bridge and a power plant. That's a war crime. Oh yeah. That's news to this little

gray rabbit since when I am old enough to remember we were covering it extensively if Fox News

channel at the time, the cost of a war. Oh man, go back and look at that. Or I'll tweet out at history D. My column on it to find war crimes down. They loved Bill Clinton and NATO bombing the heck out of those dirty Serbs. They were bombing them all day long. And again, this is not two question war ends. But the way it's covered in the tactics, they bragged about dropping all the bridges in Belgrade into the river. They bragged about the fact that they were water. Oh,

they love water, right, clean water, clean water. We have to give it to the civilians. They're thirsty. They're hungry. They're without even the most basic cable when Trump does anything. Well, they denied them all bridges. They denied them. Those water pipes that went out to the suburbs, innocent civilians. People had nothing to do with it. All the things that we hear. And then they plunged the entire country to darkness in one night.

Did President Clinton leading that NATO effort went in. They jumped a bunch of soda-can-sized bombs and they just shored out the entire power system in Serbia. Oh, there was no war crime. But you let President Trump just say he's going to drop a bridge down and they freak out. This is not how you win wars. Go back and look at the civil war in the United States against fellow Americans. How many bridges we blew up? I forget the number now, but I wrote it down at the

time for that column to make the point. Of course, you blow up bridges. And finally, after he just a little bit of pain caused through the Iranian people, they started rising up. They started

protesting again. And you can't blame them for not doing that without pain. You have to make it

more painful for somebody to act than to destroy them, not that. They've lived under this dictatorship

for 50 years. Some of them have never, most of them have never known a free society. They saw the

people getting slaughtered in the streets. They are conditioned through living in a dictatorship to keep their heads down. I mentioned Christopher Hitchens. He talked about speaking to this one, Iranian woman, an older lady as he describes her. And she told him, "Wouldn't it be possible for the Americans to just come for two weeks? Kill all of you. I told us and go home because they didn't want a war there and invasion, but they wanted their government out." Well, this decapitation strategy

a good place to start, but you may remember when Godzilla fought Mecca Godzilla the first time. I'm sorry, it was the second time. Well, when he came back the second time, what did they do? Godzilla the first time. Rips off Mecca Godzilla's head and he just throws it away and then he does his Godzilla dance and all the kids cheered. Oh, monster week. That was a country you could love.

Well, the second time Godzilla says I'm going to pull the same movie. Pulls the head off. What

happens? A little tiny little head pops up. A little dome head pops up and Mecca Godzilla goes right on fighting. In fact, he's got a laser beam in that head. So they planned for it. Well, the Iatolas, as disgusting, as demonic, as hateful, as anti-Semitic, as they are, they planned.

President Trump, I think by not throwing that Sunday punch, is not recognizin...

You have to keep going. You have to keep fighting. You have to keep making the case more importantly

to the American people that this regime is a threat to us, that death to America is real.

And that means death to all of us. I tell people when they argue. That doesn't mean just Republicans doesn't mean just maga, whatever loosely defined thing that is. It doesn't mean just the people in New York and LA and the cities. It means all of us. It means to an ideal for this country. And that's why they have to be stopped. And if you aren't going to stop them by throwing everything at them in military means, then don't do it militarily.

It's that simple because this is what you end up inviting. This on again, off again, warfare. I've mentioned in that most recent column that you had this in the Civil War with George McCollon.

George McCollon is infamous today for not moving, for always drilling, for always imagining

the other side of the stronger till the point that Lincoln asks an exasperation. Well, if you're not using the army, would you mind if I barred it for a while? That's pretty much that's exact

quote. I may have shared a couple of words. That's what he says. Can I barred for a while?

Move. Then who does he meet? U.S. Grant? And U.S. Grant goes to Fort Donaldson in Tennessee and he beats the Confederates there. Simon Boulevard, Buckman, and he says surrender. You're done. And Buckner writes back and says, well, we'd like this week to talk. We'd like just an armistice. Just, you know, long enough to talk about an armistice and talk about terms of surrender. And Grant writes back, I'm not offering any terms. I'm supposed to move on your works directly.

In other words, if you don't give up, I'm going to come and kick your ass some more.

And so they gave up. And that was the first time a full Confederate army ever surrendered in

the war and Lincoln took notice. And Grant went on to it again at Vicksburg. And Grant's through tenant, William, to come to Sherman. I don't know why I took me a second. Sorry. I'm looking over my head to see if Uncle Billy is going to come out. We forget his name for a split second. He did the same thing in the march to the sea. I will make Georgia howl. Does Iran see many closer to howling? No. But what did he do? He burned it. And you had

civilians coming up to him and saying, why are you doing this to us? Why don't you go burn South Carolina? They're the ones who succeeded first. He didn't care. He cut a bloody burning swatch. Now, the idea that they burned, I landed the ground. This is not that he did this as a war crime. He did burn. But you know what? Things happen in a war. It's terrible. But it happens. In fact, there's a clip here. I haven't played. I've got this whole sheet of clips. I haven't

been playing them. But this is Joe Klein, the Times News reporter. Listen, I'm sorry. Time magazine reporter. Soundbite number two. This is him on Morning Joe in 2012 when MSNBC was talking about, oh Obama was the one droning everybody. And no one was saying much about it. Listen to what the standard line on the left is Jim. I'm sorry, the Joe Klein reflected was. Soundbite number two. Listen, I hate to sound like a code pink guy here. I'm telling you this is causing this quote,

collateral damage. It seems so clean with a joystick from California. This is going to cause the

U.S. problems in the future. The bottom line in the end is who's four year old gets killed.

What we're doing is limiting the possibility that four year olds here are going to get killed by indiscriminate acts of terror. Now, that was pushed back on at the time. People didn't like it.

But if you're going to do it, if you say a war is a war that you have to fight, you have to make

that exact case. Do you know we killed the allies meaning 20,000 French civilians in the D-Day landings? You know who's responsibility was? The Nazis. And the Frenchmen who decided they were going to join. I know we're not supposed to talk about it. But they joined the Nazis. One of the biggest mistakes America ever made was deciding we would let all those countries even Germany pretend they had nothing to do with Hitler. But they died. It's terrible.

I've been to a spot in Norway up at Telemark where the Americans were trying to bomb Hitler's heavy water plant there to keep him from getting a nuclear weapon. And you know what? One of the bombs hit a shelter. I didn't even take a picture of them Memorial there because I felt it was too much making it feel like a tourist thing to me and I didn't want to save a picture of that. And the area of my friend is a doctor there in Norway grew up here in America with me. And we went to

high school together. He was a fellow baritone horn player. And we said we don't want to take a picture of it or together buy it because it's so sad. But you know who's fault that was? It was the fault of the Nazis. And it was necessary and it was a mistake. If you're going to go go full board don't fight it in the press. Fight it on the ground. Pile them up like cordwood. The enemy. That is the only way to win. That's how America won in World War II when Japan won it on this trip to preserve

Their regime.

will talk some more. I am Dean Kerry Annis so happy to be sitting in with all of you today for the

great Chris Plan. I'm not taking the bait. I'm not taking the bait. I'm not going to get a name this one. I know what's

going on. I have been on that side of Microsoft. You have to get a good engineer, good producer.

That's my advice for all of you trying to do radio because they can do something. They can make a control you. There's that thing I alluded to Chuck Schumer saying about government. Now they want to control us. The warning that he made to present Trump, you know, you crossed out the

intelligence services. They have six ways to solve it and get back to you. I'm sorry. This is

something that I think we can all understand. Maybe you don't understand why people want to abolish police this kind of thing. You hear that kind of thing. That's got a buggy. I'm sorry. You work for the president. You're under oversight of Congress and you're going to threaten. I'm talking about the CIA other intelligence services. And you're going to threaten the president like that. You're going to have that much power. That should scare everybody. But that's just me. I'm a small

government guy. I subscribed to that Lincolnian ideal of, well, if you're not fit to govern yourself, how can you govern somebody else? People look at the lies of people. And then you say, that guy's going to run all our lives. Look at Bernie Sanders. His poor son was on welfare. His own son because Bernie Sanders was too lazy to get a job. He preferred running for office. He wanted fame and fortune. We'll talk about the middle class. He was really against a millionaires until

he became a billionaire. And then, all right, we'll read against a billionaires. Not a millionaires.

They're okay. And what did he say to the people then? If you want to be a millionaire, you'll

write a best selling book. Yeah, off of your government service. That's easy. Why do you need any of this stuff you push then? But his son, your own son, you wouldn't feed Bernie Sanders. Hungry little child that you wouldn't feed. You wouldn't get a job for. And then, oh, but you're going to take care of the world. Stalin was the same thing. And other great socialists that they all lie in eyes. His son got cashed by the Nazis. They wanted to do an exchange in

Stalin said things happen in war that heck with them. You know, he really cared about his daughter. But anyway, they decided to heck with it. They don't take care of their own families. And a lot of people are like that. There's a dare I say conservative is like that. You're trying to control your own life. How many mistakes do you make? We all have bad habits. You try to stop them. What do you do? You say, well, gosh, I fell down. I couldn't quite make it. This is why

in the 12-step programs, you look to be higher power. Because you realize you can't do it on your own without God's help. Some people choose other powers. But it's God is the Detroit's that I make. Because you know, you can't do it alone. And I say that. I have a bunch of nieces. And they're

always fighting. My one brother says he has three daughters. It's always two against the other one

complaining complaining. It stopped listening. And that's why I say to them, you can't change her.

It's hard enough to change yourself. You can't govern yourself. Don't try to govern somebody else. That's something we'll expand upon in the next hour. Thank you to the people that are there on hold. I will try to get to you Diego Spencer. I'm sorry if I don't if you can't hold on. But thanks for calling the Chris Plant Show. Scrolling with Hayland. I am Hayland Carania. I scroll with the homies here in the

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