7-30-26 Hour 1 - Fauci Pleads the Fifthi

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Yeah, they're going to get rid of the people who lose their roots. Everything, oh, cool, cool. Hey, everybody. I'm Brian Wilson in for Chris Blank, who is taking the day off. You say, Brian Wilson, name vaguely familiar.

I used to work there in D.C. with Chris Blank and all the guys. I worked with that Larry O'Connor. People say, what happened to you, Wilson? You just disappeared one day and I say, well, yeah, because Larry drove me crazy every day.

He insisted that there be some story about critters on the show. I guess what-- what is it, Larry? It was all the critters. But he wanted me to do critters. So we did critters.

They have great dang day. I said, Larry, really enough with the critters. But you know, it was insisted.

So I finally had to leave.

No, that's not true at all. And it's a pleasure to be filling in on the Chris Blank show that it's heard nationwide on Westwood 1. We're so glad to be a part of that and bring you what some news and information

perhaps you can use. Chris, we back as far as I know on Monday. So here we go. Let's start out by talking about Anthony Fauci and that whole debacle that took place yesterday

where unbelievably Anthony Fauci, he took the fifth 100 and 11 times. On the advice of Council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment let the Constitution.

111 times, he said that. 111 times, he was asked a bunch of different questions.

And each and every time the refrain was exactly the same.

He wasn't going to talk about nothing, no hell. On the advice of Council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment let the Constitution let the record record that the witness has refused to answer whether there's a folder

“in front of him based on his fifth amendment, right?”

- Yeah, what color is that folder there? You can even answer that, you know? It was ridiculous at some of the things that happened that he's asking him the simplest questions that all you get back is the clearing.

He declared more times than a mob boss yesterday. - Here is perhaps one of the most telling this is a long clip, but I think it was really sort of the most intense stuff as Senator Bernie Moreno of Ohio really got up in his grill about stuff.

- On the advice of Council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the Constitution. - Do you know who wrote the fifth amendment? - On the advice of Council, I respectfully declined

to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment of the Constitution. - She are invoking a right that you don't know who wrote it or what it says, is that correct? - On the advice of Council, I respectfully

declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the Constitution. - Wow. - Do you feel like you're a deep-- - On the advice of Council, I respectfully declined

to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the Constitution. - Now, I mean, I've tightened this up for a time. You know, take a little of the gaps out, but I mean, this is the way it went.

I'm after time, after time. - Clearly, what you think today is that somehow you're above reproach. Somehow you feel like you don't need to be treated like a normal American.

Dr. Fracic, you just turned on to look at the people behind you. You're not willing to do that? That's not a question. It's not a question to your lawyers. That's not a question.

It's a request.

“All you have to do is look up from your lawyers”

and look at the people who were absolutely shamed for saying what we know now to be the truth. You can't even look at them. Those policies were put in place because you had moronic politicians

that listened to the words of a megalomaniac who was more interested in having met a Kardashian than the suffering of the American people. And that is you. It was about six years ago today that I decided,

I'm gonna give up my businesses, sell them all, run through the United States Senate. Here I am sitting in front of these six years later saying, who the f*** do you think you were for doing that? It is, I mean, it got rupt.

A total disgrace what you did to this country. And if I Democrat colleagues are standing there defending you,

watched the clips of every one of you,

doting on a guy who was more interested in being a celebrity than saving American people. I will make it my mission to make certain every single one of those Democrats who did that. We'll see that clip over and over and over again

because there is no defense of what you did. On the advice of Council, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my right under the fifth amendment to the constitution. Will you apologize to the business owners that lost their business, shattered their lives,

and will never recover? On the advice of Council, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my right under the fifth amendment to the constitution. Will you apologize to the moms who had to force their infant children

two, three, four-year-olds to put mass on?

“And what that did and how that traumatized those kids?”

Will you apologize to the family members of the people who died because they took your advice

and not only got the first vaccine,

but the five, six other boosters that they did not need. It's no secret why you have to hire the biggest dirt bag attorney on the planet because of what you did. I hope you're paying him well.

And I hope that one way or the other, somewhere, sometime, you answer for your crimes. - I was at Senator Bernie Moreno, really. You know, I was sticking it to Anthony Fauci as he continually continually decided

that he was going to claim the fifth. I'm gonna take the fifth, take the fifth, take the fifth, and it just got really tiresome. 100 and 11 times that he did that. You know, and we deserve answers out of this guy.

We deserve to have more than what we have gotten from this fellow.

“Million people in America died as a result”

of COVID-19 and our response to it, which was flawed. And we know this because we've seen this diary of light, we know that the things that he wrote in his personal diary really did not comport with the things that he was saying on the public stage.

And that he was working behind the scenes to manage and manipulate how the story was going to be reported. Oh, it came from a market and Wuhan, when almost everybody understood that it came from that the Wuhan Institute of Biology.

I mean, everybody figured that out pretty quick. And we, except for him, he kept trying to push this other narrative because the United States and he personally was responsible, apparently, for providing the funding for such a

of this gain of function research that was going on at the Wuhan Institute of Biology, the WIV. So the real question here is, is, you know, why can't we get answers?

“I mean, he got a pardon out of this old thing.”

Aren't we, don't we deserve to have some answers?

Here's what Senator Paul had to say, Rand Paul,

do we owe this guy an apology? I think we owe Rand Paul an apology because this is a guy who very clearly was on it from the very beginning. He had it figured out and he was called a crank.

And he was, he was telling you, oh, you're way out of line. You don't know what you're talking about. Well, he apparently, he didn't know what he was talking about. And he had it right from the very beginning. And now, you know, he's out there asking questions

and he's not getting the answers. And he says, there is a very real chance that Anthony Fauci could be prosecuted because he took the fifth in this Senate hearing. So this is from CBS News, they're version of it.

Our is after Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked the fifth amendment in response to all questions during a Senate hearing. Republican Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky told CBS News, he believes the former infectious disease official

could be prosecuted for not answering questions. The testimony followed years of fiery disputes between Paul and Fauci, both medical doctors, over the response to the COVID pandemic and the origins of the virus that caused it.

Fauci has long defended his handling of both issues. And Paul has repeatedly accused him of lying last weekend, Paul's office received a trove of journal entries, penned by Fauci, and a brief opening statement in Wednesday's hearing.

Fauci said he planned to assert that the fifth amendment arguing that Paul has quote an obvious obsession with calling for my prosecution. And it's made quote slanderous comments about it. He then invoked the fifth amendment for several hours

as Paul and other Republicans criticized him and Democrats defended him. All here's a memorable one as he's questioned

I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights

“under the fifth amendment to the Constitution.”

Well, color tie you wearing. On the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the Constitution. Well, color's a carpet in front of you.

On the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment. I mean, it goes on and on and on and on. It almost sounds like a joke, doesn't it? I mean, you can almost see this as a Saturday night

live skid of some kind and ridiculous. And he did get a pardon in all of this. And so the real question is, did that pardon that he was granted by the Biden administration does it protect him?

Here's what CBS News is reporting.

The fifth amendment to the Constitution grants people the right not to incriminate themselves, of course, which generally allows them to decline after the question. But in this case, Paul argues a preemptive pardon

that former President Joe Biden issued to Fauci just hours before leaving office could prevent Fauci from invoking the fifth amendment since he cannot be prosecuted for any of the issues that the lawmaker asked about.

If you are not under threat of prosecution,

“then what do you have to fear from answering the questions?”

If they can't prosecute you, well, he-- one thing that he could be prosecuted for is any kind of purgerous statements that he made, you know, now. I mean, he was covered up until now. But if he committed purgerous statements to Congress,

he would have had faced other problems. So that's why, rather than take any chance at all, he is declaring the fifth. And his attorney say, he's covered in all of that. We are completely confident that Dr. Fauci

has a valid Fifth Amendment privilege here, and is on legal solid ground asserting it. Rand Paul may be a doctor, but he's not a lawyer. I don't know. He'd like to me, Rand Paul's gotten a lot of this right

as we've gone along. Paul is calling it for his part at an unsettled legal question. And I think Rand Paul is right about this. I don't think this has ever been truly

and fully adjudicated. There aren't that many people with partens who have come before a congressional committee and refused to testify.

A court ultimately would have to determine

does the Fifth Amendment apply to someone who already has a pardon? A federal law often cited in contempt of Congress proceedings makes it a crime for witnesses to willfully refuse to answer questions

when called to testify before Congress. Another law bars obstructing an investigation by a congressional committee are these two things that might face the Anthony Fauci might face at the hand of Rand Paul.

Well, Rand Paul says he's going for it. Absolutely. Got to go for it. Paul has said in the Senate Homeland Committee the Security Committee which he chairs,

which we'll hold a vote next week, on whether to recommend holding Fauci and contempt of Congress.

If the majority GOP committee votes in favor,

the matter would head to a full Senate for a vote. Final adoption of that measure would require a simple majority ending debate might need 60 votes which would require some Democrats to vote in favor. So is it really going to go anywhere

that's the real question hard to know?

“But I think you absolutely have to take this guy”

to the math. In the meantime, there's been a little bit of the development from the Trump administration about this thing known as gain-of-function research. Just exactly what is gain-of-function research

and why are we now banning it? And how does this change things on the COVID front are going forward? I'll fill you in all of that in just a moment right now. You're listening to the Chris Platt Show, Brian Wilson filling in for Chris on this Thursday morning.

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for about 12 years where I covered Capitol Hill

“and the Senate and a bunch of other things.”

You know, when you're a reporter and watching a DC, you cover a little bit of everything. And then I went up over to a WMAL and I worked there alongside some great broadcasters there, including my colleague at the time, Chris Platt,

worked with Larry O'Connor, worked with a guy named Brian Neiman there for a while, a Mary Walters for a while. So, you know, I did that and then I retired and went to the beach and then I ended up getting unretired. I don't wanna hear how that happens.

And ended up working enough for six years in Nashville. Today I'm coming to you from my home studio in Bucalic Watertown, Tennessee and very glad to be here in the free state of Tennessee.

I wasn't born here, but I got here as soon as I possibly could.

I really have a great love for this particular area and for just to catch up a little bit. So, we're talking about Anthony Fauci, we're talking about all the stuff going on there yesterday. And here is what has happened

from the Trump administration. They have said that they don't think that there can be any more gain of function research and I think this is a good idea. One is gain of function research.

Well, I'm not a doctor. I just play one on the radio from time to time. And you know, what it is basically is they take a virus and then they mess around with it. They monkey around with it and they change the DNA

and they try to make it more for some reason. They want to make the virus more dangerous and more contagious. And one of the advantage of this,

it's never been really clear to me about it.

I'm sure there is, but I have a hard time understanding it. And so now the Trump administration has formally banned gain of function research from just the news.com. The Trump administration announced Tuesday is officially banned.

gain of function research, claiming it has the potential to threaten lives and undermine national security if not properly restricted and controlled. The state and health of human services to our big claim that biomedical research has produced life-saving,

medical vaccines, and medical breakthroughs and must never come at the expense of public safety or national security. But this is a policy change that comes after President Donald Trump signed an executive order last year

that banned federal funding for gain of function research and countries like China, which is believed to be at the heart of the COVID-19 lab leak in Wuhan.

“I mean, honestly, it's just amazing how quickly”

this thing spiraled out of control. And when you read the diary of Anthony Fauci, you know, what you see is a very vain, glorious individual who was more interested in having been on a show with some Hollywood starlet than actually caring about,

you know, the other stuff that was going on, like, you know, out of handle the vaccine and had a handle, you know, in the distribution of it and our public policy with regard to COVID, which I think we all can looking back on it,

look at it, believe like it really was quite lacking. You know, the sad thing about all this is that we had a hearing yesterday where we really probably could have learned something. We could have learned how to do this again

if we have another virus, how we should react. What were the lessons learned? What were the mistakes that we made? Mistakes were made. There seems to be a little doubt about that

“and looking back and retrospect, I think we can all agree”

that it didn't go really at the way we hoped it would. It really was a much more onerous burden some lockdown than we had anticipated. And it really had an impact on the so many different ways. Let's take a decreased plan, Joe.

I am Brian Wilson filling in for Chris Plant. Glad to have you with us wherever you may be all across the country. If things going out on the Westwood one network we're so glad to have you along wherever you may be.

I see calls from Gainesville, Virginia, as he calls from Ohio, our phone line by the way is open at Triple 8, 6309, 625. That's Triple 8, 6309, 625. You have something you want to say that adds to our conversation.

Very happy to have you do that. I don't think I've ever been more wrong about someone in the early going than I have been about John Fetterman, the senator from Pennsylvania. I mean, he is a Democrat.

There's no doubt about that. He votes us a Democrat. He caucuses with the Democrats. But many times he walks away from what the Democrats want

And when he does that, I find him very interesting.

You know, there was, there've been some politicians along the way, Joe Manchin of West Virginia was one of them. Who figured out something about Washington that I think is extremely interesting and that is, in Washington sometimes the real pinnacle of power

is not to the left and it's not to the right. It's in the middle. Joe Manchin figured this out and the state of Arkansas.

“Here's the thing I'm not in Arkansas, West Virginia.”

In the state of West Virginia, he absolutely figured this out because he sometimes would go left, sometimes would go right. Everybody wanted his vote, everybody, he often got what he wanted because his position in his vote was so much in demand. And it wasn't an automatic Democrat

and it wasn't an automatic Republican. He was thoughtful about it, but he would occasionally cross the line. And many people would observe that in the Senate, you know, maybe Lindsey Graham was sort of that guy who could go across the aisle and cut a deal

with Democrats from time to time to find compromise. The word that we don't hear very often anymore. But yeah, I mean, so Fetterman has figured this out. And in the early going, I thought, he's not going to be a very good representative

for the people of Pennsylvania. This doesn't seem like that's going to work out too well.

“I mean, he could barely put together a sentence”

and he had some kind of brain event. He said, we get better and you know what? He was right about that. It did get better and it is getting better. Every time you see him, he seems to be a little more coherent

and a little better at communicating. And so it did get better. He was good to his word on that.

But the bottom line is he is somebody that the Republicans

seek out to get his vote from time to time. And then some talk about whether or not he should shift over and become a Republican. Here he is during this-- here he is with this hearing with Anthony Fauci

saying that he had regrets. regrets he had a few about some of the things that he stood for and believed back in the day. And now, here he is talking about Anthony Fauci about it. During the pandemic, I was the lieutenant governor.

So we were in the middle of all of that mailstrom. And I'm not sure if we got it all right or wrong. But without a doubt, I can continue to question myself. But one that I-- it's not about much more year regrets, but I have one-- there was the theory

that the virus could have emerged from the lab. And early on that became like a right wing kinds of theory. And I thought it seemed to make sense. Now there was a really advanced lab that was close by. And then you have this unknown virus out.

So but that became a very partisan thing. And now, it seems now it's more and more emerging theory that that would have come from the lab. Now, I hope that the next time our nation's facing something like this, we are not become as I might have been blinded

by the partisan idea that maybe the truth might come from a side that's different than you are.

“But I think we should really be willing to pursue truth.”

No matter where that may have emerged after all of that. You've got to know that this irritates the Democrats tremendously. It's got to bother them that here you got betterment a Democrat senator who's out there taking positions that have got to irritate those on the left.

But they can't push him too far because they know that if they push him too far, he could end up being a Republican senator from the state of Pennsylvania. He can walk right over into the loving arms of John Thune who would be more than happy to have him there.

And so they have to walk lightly with that kind of stuff. Same reason that on our side of the equation, we have to worry. We have to walk lightly with people like Susan Collins and Murkowski, Lisa Murkowski and others.

Are they rhinos? Yeah, they're pretty much rhinos.

They'll be the first to tell you that they're kind of Republicanism

is different from what we might experience here in the deep South. They'll be the first to tell you that. But they have ours after their name. And because there are ours after their name, we have control of the body.

And so we can't really push them too far, can we? Because they would go right over into the loving arms of the Democrats and they would probably suffer no ill harm for doing that in their home states. So yeah, I mean, it is a thing that you have to deal with.

with they're not going to push him that hard

because they want him to continue to have a D after his name and not an R. I think it's really interesting. Here's another thing that I found was interesting about Fetterman, a position that he is taken of late on the filibuster.

Now, I don't know where you are on the filibuster. The filibuster is not that very popular thing these days. President Trump wants to do away with the filibuster. And Jonathan keeps saying, well, we can't do away with the filibuster because well, you know, we don't have the votes for it.

To change the rule on the filibuster would take 50 votes and there are ostensibly 53 Senate votes for their Republican. So, you know, if he had his Republican votes in line, then he would be able to change the rules

and get rid of the filibuster.

He doesn't have the votes.

He doesn't know where close to the votes. Apparently, he doesn't have it. And everybody said, well, then it just need to take a vote and see where people stand and put them on the record and let people know where it will.

That no Senator wants to give that up. No Senator is there a great number of senators on the left

“and some on the right, quite a few of them, I think,”

who want to protect the filibuster because they see that as a power that they have. A lot of people don't understand this about it, but, you know, any Senator has the power to shut down difficult legislation that they don't like.

By simply saying, I'm going to filibuster. They like that power. They want every Senator wants to preserve that power by and large. So I don't think that Thun is blowing hot air.

I think he's right when he says, he doesn't have the votes to change it. But it isn't interesting that now, Fatima who was once in favor of scrapping the filibuster has come to a different position on it.

He simply said that he supports the filibuster. And this even as President Trump has said that we should get rid of it. I've been covered that institution for a lot of years, and it seems to me that when you're talking about the

United States Senate, you're talking about an institution where it's just that it's supposed to be different from the House of Representatives. Our founding fathers decided that a long time ago, they wanted it to be a different kind of place.

They really did, and they wanted it to be where a simple majority often would rule the day in the House, and if a speaker of the House had to go out there and twist a few elbows, he would do whatever he had to do to get it passed.

Well, those days, that works on the House of Representatives. It doesn't work so much in the Senate, where every Senator believes they are an island unto themselves. And they don't want to give up any power that they have. And so I predict that they are quite a long way,

“because I think there are quite a few senators on the left”

and the right to want to preserve the filibuster, because they think that it protects the rights of the minority, and who knows when you're going to be in the minority. So I don't know. I think sometimes Thun gets a rough row on that,

because he really doesn't have the 50 votes. And it's just every Senator is going to be hard to persuade enough senators to come across to change that, as I think any time soon, we'll see. We'll see that.

But here it is. Fetterman strongly supports the filibuster. He's Trump urges Senate Republicans to scrap it. And this is from FoxNews.com. Senator John Fetterman expressed strong support

for the filibuster and a Monday opinion piece, acknowledging that he has reversed his position on the issue since his 2022 campaign. When Democrats had the presidency in a majority in both chambers, they were frustrated

with the 60 vote threshold needed to advance legislation, Senate Democrats attempted in the filibuster to push the president Joe Biden's agenda. An effort I fully supported during my 2022 campaign, halfway through my first term.

“I now recognize he says how important the filibuster is”

and the state of our country would be in without it. Isn't that interesting?

The rule is a critical line of defense

that prevents President Donald Trump from having to fill in the blank government with new laws, deregulation or procedures of its choosing. The president issued true social posts on Monday advocating as he has on many occasions.

Republicans need to scrap the filibuster and is that going to happen? I don't see it happening because I just don't think the votes are there. Will they try to push for it to see exactly

I think they would, but I don't think many Republicans

or Democrats really want to be put on the record. They support it, but they'd want to support it quite because they understand what's going on with that. And how controversial it is in many quarters. I don't know.

I just think our founding fathers had a good reason for making it more difficult. See, I don't think that laws should be easy to be passed. I think it ought to be difficult to pass legislation. And this is something that I think is lost on our side.

We say, well, I would Congress say doing nothing. They're not doing this. They're not doing that. You get really irritated with Congress for getting bogged down, but our founding fathers wanted it

to be difficult to pass legislation.

“And that's why they-- the House of Representatives,”

everybody gets elected there every two years. And they're very much in touch with the population. And they bring the passions of the people to government. And they often want to pass something. But I often found that legislation get passed in passion.

It turns out to be not very good legislation. That there is some-- I think there's some real value in slowing the process down.

And that was always the purpose of the United States Senate

where's supposed to slow it down. I believe it-- and I've always believed this-- that the government, which governs best, is that which governs least. And so I'm wanted to be difficult for laws to be passed.

Does this frustrate me at times that there are laws out there that I think should be passed? Yes, I do. But-- and it frustrates me that we can't get the same America act pass.

That's a really good piece of legislation. And we need to get it passed. But I don't see that happening. And when you don't have the votes, and you don't have the votes to change, the rules

to get rid of the filibuster. So 60 votes is the way it's going to be for a while. It sounds to me. And I don't think we're going to get the 60 votes. And I'm not sure that doing it through the budget process

is going to withstand constitutional scrutiny. But there are others who disagree with me on that. So we'll see and exactly what happens that. But this whole thing going on, though, there is a very interesting dynamic at play.

A little bit later here in the program, we're going to get into the midterm elections and where they are. And just the headline from that, if you can't hang around,

“is that I think that the midterm elections--”

which a midterm election in this certain environment would almost certainly benefit the Democrats. You would expect midterm elections if past is prologue. And history is our guide. Then a midterm election is generally not very good for the party

that is in power and the Republicans are in power. They control the presidency. They control the Senate. They control the House of Representatives. And ostensibly, we have a 63 conservative majority

on the Supreme Court. So can't say we're not in power on our side to be equation we are in power and generally midterm elections do not go well for the party in power. We're looking at where things stand right now.

And we'll get into this. I promised you in a deeper way in the next hour. We're looking at the way it stands right now. It doesn't seem to me that we're in a blue wave situation. You might expect to lose 20 or 30 seats

in the House of Representatives in a midterm election like this one. But that doesn't seem to be shaping up that way. Why is that? I have some theories about it that Democrats have gone a step too far and we'll get into that.

Also coming up here in the next hour, we'll go to the swamp. There's a whole lot of stuff going on with the swamp. And we'll talk about what's happening with the cracker barrel, a little segment I'd like to call woke world. What's going on in woke world?

It's all straight ahead right here on the first flat show.

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I am Brian Wilson, filling in for Chris Clamp. We'll return to this regular place here on Monday. I've glad to be with you a former Denizin of Washington, D.C. Yes, I survived there for 31 years. And then I got out.

And I got to tell you, having a little perspective from Washington

“I think has been a very interesting thing”

experience in my life, for sure. I love Washington. I loved all the things that I got to do there.

It really is different.

You have a very different opinion of everything.

So there you have all that. Listen, we got a lot of stuff going on here today. The midterm elections. I want to talk about those as we get a little deeper into the program here.

Because it really does happen. I really do believe that there is some good news, perhaps out there on this regard to that to see what's going on.

“We have a situation where I think that the Republicans are going to do”

a little better than has been anticipated that they were going to do. I think they will do a lot better, quite frankly.

Look, it would not be, if I'm a member correctly,

there have been midterm elections where the party in power has lost 20. It's lost 30. In some cases, it's, I think, if it lost 60 seats, and it's just not developing that way this time around. And I think there are two factors that play here.

And we're going to each of these a little deeper. But I think there are two factors that play. Number one, I think that we've done the redistricting and that has been very helpful. And there's going to be more conservative seats at play.

And that's one part of it.

“I think the other part of it is, is that I think Democrats,”

with all of this stuff with the DSA and the Democrats

socialist of America and the Mondamis and the AOCs of the world, I think they've just gone a step too far for a lot of Democrats. And a lot of Democrats are looking to say, you know, I just can't vote for that. I really do believe that there is that feeling,

that they can't quite go that far. Have they gone, have Democrats gone so far to the left that they have left so many mainstream Democrats? There are, you know, Democrats. We've talked about this all the time in politics.

In the middle, you got to, you got a lot of people. Sometimes they vote left, sometimes they vote right. You know, in the last election, they voted right. There's a little doubt about that. But, you know, with they normally swing back

in a midterm election? Well, if that's, if past is prologue and histories are guide, that should be what's happening, but it doesn't seem to be happening and developing quite that way. It's not and, and so what's happening out there?

I think it's a combination, I mean, we'll get into this, but I think it's a combination of a couple of things. I think number one, I think that a lot of people are looking at the economy in a more positive way. And I think that the Democrats have made a huge mistake

by trying to go so far to the left that they are leaving a great number of people behind. Listen, we got a lot of things to talk about here on the Chris Plant Show. Brian Wilson, in for Chris Plant,

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