7-31-26 Hour 2 - Does America still Lead on Innovation?

President's governor's mayor's school board's corporations and Congress all their responsibility for the decisions they made.

The COVID lockdown, however, could never have been afflicted without you 80 and a bed in the crime.

>> Thank you, Senator Rand Paul, this is Patrice Unwuga. I am in for Chris Plant on the Chris Plant show welcome that folks.

“>> Yeah, we, this was it a tough way for I think many people.”

As we had, we saw Dr. Fauci head to Capitol Hill for a rightly deserved grilling over his response, his culpability, in the cover up in the misleading of the American public about everything surrounding the COVID pandemic, including how policy makers should respond to it. You know, I, I, I, I'm speechless because I remember both delivering a COVID baby in 2020. Having a child in elementary school during 2020 and the pandemic and having one who is a preschooler.

And as so many parents out there understood, all of those phases were directly impacted in a negative way.

Almost couldn't hold my baby at the delivery point because of COVID policies.

My youngest, you know, was in daycare settings had to wear a mask on a tooth to year old. In daycare with masks, how is he supposed to learn how to speak? >> And by the way, that two year old is now a seven year old. He was at the White House earlier this year go to at Patrice Pinkfile to watch the viral video when he explained to President Trump where milk comes from.

Yes, that was my son, but he's persevered despite what happened in 2020. Our next guest is Dr. Monique Johanna and she is the director of the Center for Better Health at Independent Women. I work this is one of my colleagues at IW. She's a physician executive and healthcare innovation leader with over 20 years of experience

at the intersection of clinical medicine, technology, and health policy. So this is a bright woman who knows what she's talking about. Dr. Monique, welcome to the Chris Plant Show. >> Thanks so much Patrice.

“Yes, it was a painful weekend week as a doctor and as a mom, honestly,”

watching him refuse to take accountability. >> You know what, let's pick up on that, let's play cut for. This is Senator Florida Senator Ashley Moody during that hearing. Let's hear how she framed this for us. >> When the evidence is uncertain officials need to say so and recommendations are based on assumptions.

Rather than hard data, they need to say so and when they get something wrong, they need to own it. And when the trust is lost and the consequences extend far beyond any single pandemic, the next time public health officials genuinely need Americans to listen, millions of people may simply ignore them, or not believe them. And Dr. Fauci, you were undeniably the face of the federal government's COVID response.

You said so yourself in your diary. You said it's not hyperbole to say, I've become the most famous and talked about person in the country. >> There you go, Dr. Monique.

“>> What kind of damage has Dr. Fauci done to the medical profession and the health policy profession?”

>> Well, you know, trees saying that my gentle disagreement with the Congressperson would be that we actually did know, in the summer 2020, I wrote COVID guidelines. We knew that kids were not at high risk. This is not a question, there was an absence of evidence. There was evidence to the contrary that kids would be safe to go to school.

And there was also evidence that we were going to hurt kids by keeping school shut down. When I look at the decisions to do this, so many people got their say can we just decided, let's just throw away a generation of kids. You're right that your son was able to persevere my son who was in high school at the time. He was able to persevere, but there was damage.

And I know other kids who are not able to persevere in quite the same way. I know people who are hurt. And when I hear parts of this diary where he's saying people just haven't had enough pain. If we have people have enough pain, if we take enough away from them, they will get vaccinated. You know, here's the reality that the measle of outbreak that we are seeing now,

I can draw a straight line from that because the reality is the kids who didn't get vaccinated

or the kids who lost trust during the Biden administration. When Dr. Fauci was there, the trust is gone.

You have a new op-ed on the daily wire.

It's entitled Dr. Fauci Betrayed My Profession and the American People. As a doctor and an American, I wanted accountability. I didn't get it. You know, when you speak with your colleagues, you know, who are running, who have to educate the

“public, who have to re-earn the trust of the public, you know, what are they saying?”

Do they still hold Dr. Fauci in the same regard that they did during that time? I mean, in some circles, he is still a saint. He's still a hero, but I think a lot of people who wasn't bought in at the time,

now are starting to see that the scales are coming off their eyes and they're seeing this man

for something totally different. But what about in the medical profession? Because I think those doctors that you work with, these are the folks who are telling us the pediatricians, the doctors who we see for guidance, what they think about this man and what he's leading and telling them to do still matters today.

So what is the consensus right now in the medical profession about Dr. Fauci?

“Well, I think the medical establishments, I think there's still a many people who support”

him and, you know, who really this is for them just tribal. But I will say that in California, for example, during COVID and I'm a licensed physician in California, they made it illegal to talk about things that actually were factually supported then, that we know are factually supported now. Now, that law was struck down, but what I will tell you is their goal was to scare doctors

in silence and they succeeded in that. And so there are a lot of doctors who lost their licenses, there were doctors who lost their board certification simply for saying things that we know, factually were true then we know

now they never got their names back and the reality is that the doctors who do take a position

that's different than the medical establishments, which I would say is very beholden to progressive causes, look at where their donations go to, look at which candidates look at which causes.

“So unfortunately, I think many of them see this as a proxy for we're going to be supported”

of frankly what was an insane policy and again, it's not that we were uncertain. I would give grace if we were uncertain. Yeah. We knew better, we just decided his power was more important than our kids. That's a statement there, I'm just going to leave that there in shift of years. You know, we're speaking with Dr. Monique Yohan and she's the director of the Center for

Better Health at Independent Women. I want to talk about your work when it comes to technology and health and medicine. I mean, listen, I am one of those people, I have an AI agent on my phone, sometimes if there's a little bump on on my kids arm, I'll, you know, go to grok and ask grok, okay, this is what it is, you know, what could this be? I think a lot of Americans, though, are fearful when they hear about artificial intelligence and medicine. And I think our imaginations

get the best of us, well, we think that, you know, some robot is going to be performing our open heart surgery and malfunction in the middle of it, you know, or some of our worst fears and nightmares play out. But I would love for you, actually, you know, to talk about what, what should we be, what, what is happening with medicine and, and is it making us better, making quality of life better for patients? Well, you know, I think that AI and technology to me and medicine, it's such

an exciting time. Last week, I was in DC, I met with the surgeon general, I presented to the FDA on some AI developed tools that we've been thinking about. And I look at what HHS specifically, FDA is done with AI. We will be able to get drug treatments faster. We will be able to keep the human element, but just actually get some of the paperwork done faster. That's really exciting to me. Hopefully, I think at its best, we will be able to have visits where doctor instead of spending

all their time charting can spend their time listening. But I think I would, would look to patients to say, you know, use AI use these tools and prepare for your visits. So go in. I think one of the great things about AI is we have had a democratization of expertise. Your doctor can be a guide. You can bring this to your doctor. Does it mean everything online is perfect? No, but actually, not every doctor is going to have perfect information, but it can be a resource for you to become an

expert in your own health, for you to be an expert in your medical conditions, to be the best advocate for yourself and for your family. And your doctor can be a guide in that. But I do think it can be a way to allow us to have true shared decision making. It can be a way for us to develop

I share your excitement, but I still too also recognize that, you know, there's data privacy

as a part of this conversation. You know, especially when it comes to medicine. Our personal records, our health records are very sensitive. That's very sensitive data. You know, should Americans have any worries or fears about, you know, our personal health records, how that information gets shared,

“how AI. And remember, folks, who are listening, we're speaking with Dr. Monicchio, Johannes.”

AI is trained by the information we provide it. And so the more we provide it, the better it becomes, you know, the more I speak in like a broken English, Pat Twar or whatever, then the AI agent kind of understands what I'm asking and can, you know, translate that in the future.

But is there concern about privacy and data when it comes to health information and how it's

incorporated into AI with medicine? Patrice, I'm so glad you brought that up. And I do you think that's part of the trade-offs is that all of the extra information there are risks with privacy. And this is where I would say we have to, again, be our own advocates. We need to be monitoring our presence online. We need to be monitoring our credit reports. We need to be sure that we are taking accountability for the information that we share. And, you know, those long lists of things

“where you had that disclosure, you have to sign off on. I would encourage people to read it and to”

have discussions. You know, but I would also keep in mind that still one of the most common ways that people have identity theft is old school. It's the papers that they throw out in the trash. So, getting the habit of shredding paperwork that has your personal information on it because I do

think, unfortunately, that is a risk. I think it is a trade-offs that is ultimately for the good,

but I think it does put us in the position that we have to really take accountability to monitor these things ourselves. Knowing there can be great information, but you're right, there are risks. So, the kids are going back to school, starting next month and into September. And one of the conversations that, you know, we're having at independent women is around screen time, excessive screen time and kids in particular. And this is a health issue.

I mean, listen, I have to limit the amount of time that I have my boys on their cell phones, on their iPads, watching television. I kick them out of the house. They go and they ride their scooters in the coldest pack. I have them, you know, practicing soccer in the backyard because I want them to have fresh air and energy. But when they go to school, we are seeing that some part of COVID was that, you know, kids in every classroom, out to have an iPad or had to have a

Chromebook. And there's so much reliance in the classroom now on technology. I'm not a lot of, I really do want kids to understand how to use it. But it's too much screen time bad for kids, doctor. It really is. And one of the places, if I didn't think that in my gut,

“I think we all have a sense of that, there was a search and general report from Dr. Stephanie”

Herodopolis that came out this May. And she talked about the dangers of screen time and of social media with kids. I think it is a real concern. And so again, this is a place where as parents, we need to take the lead on this. I do, I look back and I would say, you know, I'm glad that my son learned cursive's in school. Yeah. But I would say that the more your kids can be reading real books, the more they can be practicing the writing, taking notes, there is something in

our brains that when we put pen to paper that works in a different way, I would encourage people to look at the search and general's report on social media. There are real risks and there also are tips in her report about things you can do to protect your children. I do think that we probably have gone too far, you know, some of the aid assistance with technology. So it is just balancing act. But I do think that we really have to be the people who monitor our kids,

especially the social media. You know, at independent women, we say that parents, we don't co-parent with the government. And that means that we are their, their front line when it comes to AI and technology. You know, and I do want to give a shout out to the federal communications commissioner of Chairman Carr. He's actually taking this up and really tried to cut the purse strings from Washington that has really made all of these, these crow books and all of this

too much screen time possible because of all the technology during the COVID. You know, it folks definitely visit independentwomen.com. You can read around what Dr. Monique Johannes is doing there.

folks can follow what you're doing at IWF. Thanks so much for treating the have a great weekend.

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According to USA today, rent is already high and then came the $200 work from home fee. Yes, here's the story. With more people working from home since the pandemic, some landlords are paying close attention to the utility costs that they are now shouldering and are charging remote workers more each month to cover the increased costs of electricity, water and heating, and air conditioning. Apparently, this is a rare stipulation in rent, rent leases, but it's on

the rise. I don't know about you, but I know what it's like to be a landlord and listen. The things aren't costing more. They do. Certainly, the repair man costs more when he comes to your house. Certainly, your utilities cost more. Energy bills have been rising. Oh, and folks, it is not because of data centers. It is more than likely because your democratic, blue state governor and legislature has enacted some policies that will get you into some sort of

green climate agenda, you know, a compact that actually is starting to kick into your energy prices, but that's an aside. The point is that, yes, the costs are rising. And as you're a landlord, the reason why you get into the business is for a profit and the more that the cost rise,

“the more profit that you have to eat or you raise your rents. Now, wait a minute, is this”

Mayor Mamdami, is this him calling in here? When I ran for mayor, I said I was going to tax the rich. Well, today, we're taxing it. I'm thrilled to announce who secured a pita tear tax,

the first in New York's history. This is an annual fee on luxury properties worth $25 million,

whose owners do not live full time in the city, like for this penthouse. Which hedge fund CEO can Griffith bought for $238 million. Yeah, Mayor Mamdami, no, you don't get to tax the rich. What you're doing is insane, but I might understand where this $200 work from home fee has come in from as a landlord. Listen, if you're going to be at home and you're using all these utilities and you're not specifically

paying for the utilities in your rent, this may be a way of making that happen. So I'm actually want to hear from you. Definitely call in the number as you know, folks is the usual $8, number 8, 8, 8, 6, 3, 0, 9, 6, 2, 5. Is it a good idea? Stay with us. This is the Chris Plan Show, and I'm Patricia Mucca and for Chris. Welcome back to the Chris Plan Show. I am Patricia Mucca and for Chris.

All right, folks, we've got a treat here today. There's been so much going on in the world. As we've been, we've teased it a little bit in some earlier segments. And if you missed any of our great guests so far, I encourage you go back and listen to the podcast on WMAL and we've got to have had some good guests this morning. Right now, I'm so honored to welcome to our show, Megan Moves. She is the director of the Center for Safety and Security at Independent Women.

Now, she is brilliant. Number one, she's also extremely accomplished. She's a graduate of West Point. She holds a Master's in Forensic Psychology from George Washington University. She holds a doctorate in Clinical Psychology from Columbia University. She is a Presidential appointee to the

through the Virginia Military Institute Board of Visitors. And by the way, I get to call her my birthday twin because we also share the same birthday. Megan, welcome to the show. Thanks so much for having me, Patrice. I love that we're birthday twin, by the way. Yes, sisters from a different mother and father. All right, so the world has been looking obviously at the Middle East and what's been going on there. But in the, there's the backdrop also,

obviously of the proxy wars. You know, you've got the United States in China, then you also have this triangle between the United States Russia and Ukraine. And our involvement in that relationship

“or in that conflict, this week we saw some pretty interesting things. I think certainly the passing”

of Senator Lindsey Graham previously, the lead Senator from South Carolina, you know, he brought together an impressive room of people from across the world, which I don't think we would typically see. You had President Trump, Vice President, Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, you have Ukrainian President, Voldemort, Zellinsky, and others attending the funeral. And then obviously President Trump met with President Zellinsky about the United States and support there.

I would love your reflections on Senator Graham and what his involvement in the Ukraine Russia conflict has meant, particularly in trying to stew or the relationship that the United States

has in that in supporting Ukraine. Well, first of all, I mean, Senator Graham is such a law for the United

States. It's such a law for the foreign policy and national security world. I mean, you can, you know, disagree with some of his policies or some of what he was trying to do. But it's a part of all of it. Senator Graham so deeply believed in the idea of American strength, American power, and the idea that America should inherently be this force for good all over the world. Again, people could disagree about his policies, but he so fundamentally believed that that he spent so much of his time

truly trying to demonstrate the world why America was this genuine force for good and for power, which is why you saw so many descend upon DC in order to honor him, honor his memory. And then why you saw his sanctions bill that had long kind of stalled in the Senate finally come to fruition

and pass, which ultimately showed, by the way, that in the Senate, Ukraine has still,

he still has bipartisan support of the 12 Novos, 11 more Democrats. There was only one

“Republican that didn't vote. Yes. And so I think, you know, unfortunately, the conflict in Ukraine”

has become so overtly politicized. I'm not really sure why that happened. I pinpoint to a lot of kind of the rhetoric of a Biden administration. Senator Graham was able to cut through all of that and really make the case both to President Trump and many times the American people about why it does matter for our fake news security, by the way, for Ukraine to emerge stronger, more secure, and to ensure that Russia is not in bold and. You know, diving just a little bit into that

Senate bill. What did what was it about? And what does it represent? And then also, you know, do you foresee the United States giving Zelensky the kind of weaponry and firepower that he's looking

for? So ultimately, what this bill did? I mean, I would say it was long overdue because ultimately

what it does is it quipped the President with leverage needed to impose real costs on Putin. Ultimately, what we're saying is the reluctance to end this war is certainly coming from Putin. It is not coming from Zelensky. It's not coming from the Ukrainians. It's coming from him. Because unfortunately, for right now, the cost of negotiating is hired in the cost of doing war. So he's going to continue pushing for his advantage on the battlefield until real pressure is applied.

And he is forced to negotiate in good faith. So it has been pretty good news stations specifically to help really put that pressure on him. And additionally, the tariff threat there is very real. And I know there's obviously debates around tariffs. But ultimately, this bill just eclipse the

“President with more leverage to do that. And so that's really why I think it's critically important”

because it does provide the sanctions on the shadow fleet, those who provide services to support it, sanctions on Russian energy projects and the Arctic. And again, the Arctic is a very big topic that we should be talking about as well for our national security. So all that to say this is something that will just give the President more leverage negotiations. Well, let's just go there for a minute. We're speaking with Megan Mobs. She's the director of the Center for American Safety and Security.

You know, sometimes we take our eyes off of the Arctic, but what is going on there and why should America be taking a more active role? So it is becoming increasingly an extremely competitive landscape. And somewhere is a battlefield or a frontier for the next generation of warfare. There is so much rare earth there capability, there's so much oil, things like that. And those resources are going to be

of trying to sort out what we're going to do before, but let's colonize the Arctic in order to ensure that they have the command over their resources that we're going to need. This is why you have

“seen the President being so aggressive about green men. That's why that rhetoric has been so”

particular way strong, because if we don't take the encroachment in the Arctic seriously, we're going to have substantial difficulties in the future, also doing interception of missile launches that could potentially come over the Arctic in the future and strike our homeland. That is why that area is so quickly important. So why the President has been so aggressive there. But unfortunately, we alone don't possess the capabilities in order to project powers,

essentially, in the Arctic. It's why we need the sense, for example, who produce icebreakers. We don't have enough icebreakers. So it's why the Alliance is our critically important. I know there's been a lot of necessary debate around burden sharing and NATO in particular,

but we simply cannot do this alone. We do need to push your up to do more, but ultimately,

when we're talking about the future of the West, we have to make sure that we're doing this together in the Arctic, but it is why you're seeing the President push aggressively there. So let's go back to Russia and talk about Russia and the Ukrainian conflict, and really from the perspective of people who get forgotten in the conversation. Certainly, we think about the

“soldiers who lose their lives, but they are, you know, soldiers. But then I think about the”

children, and it's been so interesting and frankly, so refreshing to see first lady Melania Trump working behind the scenes, not through hashtag campaigns or big splashy, you know, social media and earned media campaigns, but behind the scenes to reunite children, who Ukrainian children, who've been taken, taken, frankly, just kidnapped by the Russian government. I would love for you to talk about this whole issue, and then, you know, we have something really exciting.

We're going to be playing a clip of a movie that you're a part of a project that you're a part of, but kick us off. Tell us about what's going on there and what the efforts of the United States have been so far. So this is truly one of the greatest human rights violations of my lifetime. You know, and it is one of those things that we should desperately be talking about more. You know, so Russia will say that they took these children because they had to protect them

as Russian forces in dance. They were in danger. They were in occupied territory. And therefore, for their safety and security, they had to be whisked away back to Russia. That's their way of obscuring the reality you use, the word kidnapping, and that's exactly what's happening because those children wouldn't be in danger if Russia had not launched this catastrophic war that is both killing untold Ukrainians but untold Russians as well. And Megan, please, sorry, how many children

are we talking about? Over 20,000, the treatment are some estimates that are even higher than that. So we are talking about huge math volumes of children being taken back to Russia. And when they're there, they're being disconnected from their loving family members. They're being told they can't speak Ukrainian. They have to speak Russian. They're being indoctrinated with education about how Ukraine is bad. And many cases the boys are being militarized given weapons and being sent to the front

to fight against their own countrymen as soon as they're 16, 17 or 18 years old. Again, this is a catastrophic thing that the West is simply cannot look away from. And you highlighted the first lady.

And I just want to say, you know, she has always been a champion for the most vulnerable. And it has

been such an amazing thing to see for leadership here. The fact that she directly engaged President Putin and said, we have got to solve this. This is unacceptable. And just even yesterday this week, she was able to return additional four children back to their families just while weeks to her willingness to engage in this type of diplomacy. But this is truly a catastrophic human rights violation that has to be talked about more. You know, before we get to the video, and it's really,

I can't wait for listeners to hear this. But talk to us about the American public's perception at independent women. You know, you, you let the, a project here to really probe where Americans perspectives are some polling here. Can you just give me some top lines? Like, do Americans actually

“understand just the kind of conduct that Russia is exhibiting and how outraged are they by it?”

So they don't, they don't know patriot. And that is like the kind of the great and terrifying thing and the work that we're doing at independent women is to help educate those that don't are not aware of of what Russia is doing in Ukraine. So we did an fantastic poll. Please go

to independent women.com/RussiaResearch where we talk about what we found. But ultimately,

less than half of the Americans are aware that Russia is forcibly taking and relocating tens of thousands of Ukrainian children to Russia that they're removing them from their families in homeland. And then once they are informed, we're talking about widespread outrage over 90%

be done about it. Well, speaking of doing something about it, let's play cut five.

When you're in the American military, you're taught that your values are everything.

“You have to deeply believe in what you're fighting for. I knew that the fight for my generation”

was a Ukraine. Footed scorer idea is to use Ukrainian children as their source for new generation of Russian soldiers. 100,000 children stolen and taken. So goal was to take away all of the children. Have you seen this? Sorted by iron hair color. We're talking about human trafficking. Megan, that was your voice that people heard in that clip. And the clip is for the stolen children. This is a movie that is being released. Is it today is that correct, Megan?

So they've used on two August on YouTube. And it's part of a broader initiative under space in a war that will come out. So thank you for playing that, Patrice. Yes, it comes out to August. Excellent. And it just tells about how you got involved in the project and what the goals here are for it are. So I will say so Patrice, I've been heavily involved in Ukraine for that since the full scale invasion in 2022. And even though I have been to Ukraine over 30 times, I didn't even understand

the scale and scope of what was happening with regard to Ukrainian children. And I came across this

article that talked about how Ukrainian children were being basically catalogued by the Russians.

And Russian families could go in there search by hair color, by eye color, and then pick the child that they wanted. And then you know, basically take them. And I got to see this catalog firsthand. And when I say catalog, it has young girls posing provocatively with their shoulders exposed, their leds exposed, trying to look alluring. And so clearly this catalog isn't for like loving adoption of Ukrainian children. And it's for something far more nefarious, disgusting, and dangerous.

And so once I saw that, I realized I had to better understand truly the scale and scope. What was happening? Who on the Russian side was involved? Was it just a narrative well or was it a much broader governmental effort? And it turned out it's the latter and not the former. This is something that's being orchestrated by the Russian government. You heard in the clip, both for the militarization. But also I was able to see documents that demonstrate that they were

trying to establish a breeding program, Patrice. They were using these Ukrainian girls in order to have more babies in Russia because Russia is also facing a demographic crisis. So I mean, I had to follow and find the answers. And the documentary is the culmination of that

“investigation. Thank you, Megan, for that because I think it's important that folks know”

what's going on in Russia and in Ukraine, what Russia is doing. I want to broaden it out, though. And you know, as an organization that speaks to about and for women, you know, of every political view, I have been frustrated with the so-called feminist in the United States, not just because they have abandoned biological women in girls when it comes to sports and spaces, locker rooms, jails, everything. But on the international stage, I mean, there has been so

much oppression and aggression against women in so many different countries. You give the example here in Russia. I think about female genital mutilation. I think about child brides. There are so many ways that some of these countries and a very a lot of them, militant Islamic countries are abusing, oppressing, like just horrific things to women. Where are the feminists? Where are the so-called women per champions? And if the United States is a leader, where are two days feminists in this country?

Megan, where are they? Well, but I asked this question so much, and for me, it's such like a radicalization moment with what happened after October 7, when there was such clear evidence that Israeli women and girls were brutal sexually brutalized, and it was so clear immediately with an hour as it footage was being released. And all of these organizations, like UN women, for example, or to your point is out of large feminist organizations, were silent. And not even sometimes

silent, outwardly denying that these atrocities were occurring. And it was that for me, with a radicalization moment where I realized like, they've abandoned us. They've abandoned women and girls around the world and favor us as kind of woke ideology. They would much rather obscure the truth rather than uphold biological reality or the true reality of the lived experience of the women around the world. Because certainly, obviously, if you're going to, for there, there are, as you said before,

“about female genome utilization, you have to acknowledge that, for there to be female genome”

utilization, you have to first be a woman, a female. To radical regimes around the world have no

problem, diagnosing biological reality. As I just mentioned, and using Ukrainian girls and women for breeding because only women and girls can have children. So it's a theory. Wait, say that

have uteruses. Only women can have children. And again, tyrannical authority, they know this.

And they are just using this. And so again, you can hear how passionate about this. Because the more and more that we advocate the reality, the more that we're going to take control. Amen, sister. This is a Megan Moves, the Independent Women's Independent Women.com. Definitely check out the work that she's doing there. And you can also watch the stolen stolen children on that trailer and the documentary that's coming out. Megan, thank you for joining us

on the Chris Plan Show today. Thank you for having me, Patrie. All right, stay with us, folks.

Welcome back to the Chris Plan Show. I'm Patrie Sanvuga and for Chris today. All right, well, I said we were going to take calls. We are going to be taking calls right now and into the next half hour. So, Joe from Charleston, you have been so patient. Sir, you've been waiting on the lines.

“I want to open them up. What do you have to say today? And welcome. Thank you Patrie.”

Here's from taking my call. I have a sort of a scenario speculation about the monster Fauci. When

he discussed with his lawyers, who he mentioned every time he took the fifth, then he wanted

to take the fifth. At least one of his lawyers must have said, well, you've been pardoned. You can't take the fifth. But the decision was made that he would. Now, aside from content of Congress, it seems to me that if he says every time I'm taking the fifth, then he's committing purgery. What do you think? I am not a lawyer. I don't even play when on television. That said, I look at some people myself. I have looked at some of the analysts that, you know, that I do look up to legal experts,

Jonathan Turley, for example, well-known in the DC area. You know, and he talked about the fact that Senator Paul is probably getting into a murky area when it comes to Fauci. To Dr. Fauci in contempt of court. During the hearing last Wednesday, Senator Paul wrapped up the hearing saying that he would be, there would be a vote scheduled next week to hold him in contempt. And obviously, like they could not lock up. Dr. Fauci at all, but, you know, that contempt of vote, we will see what

“comes of it. You know, that said, I think there is a specific way, and I'm going to read what”

Professor Turley, who's a professor, said. You know, he said, really, his attorneys are probably on good ground that the courts are likely to adopt an expansive view of the part in and what he can say. But there's a very important framing that Dr. Senator Paul crafted, and it's asking within the time limits of the period of this part in. And so, I'm going to leave that to you. Whatever the case is, Fauci has been discredited and that's important. All right,

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