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“Designed to help bring those four key stoic virtues courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world.”
So, we were talking other stoic themes novels, and you only knew about the manifold. Yes, I know. There are many more. Okay. One of which I hope about the existing CD, what's there here? Obviously, one of the most famous probably stoic novels is, I'm animal with very epic teetis themes, but have you read Walker Perssey's The Moody Goer?
Oh wait, no, but I've been meaning to. It's one of the great no idea that it had a stoic theme. No, so his character and the character and Emily is very stoic theme.
When you find it, check and find this. He has this amazing passage.
That's like everybody's favorite book, and I haven't read it yet. Yeah, no, no, it's incredible. So his uncle introduces him to stoic philosophy. His parents both commit suicide or die in accidents, and he's adopted by his uncle, three boys. And he's this sort of poet in Mississippi, and he introduces him to stoicism, and there's this
one, she sends him this note, I wish I could find it. Okay. But anybody, she's very stoic theme, so that's one. Okay. This is the other famous one. You haven't read memoirs of Patreon? This is a beautiful novel.
This is the one I told her about. Oh, Shirley has her. That's Adora Hazard. I used the last name from Shirley Hazard, but I know. But this is, this is, it's fictional, but it feels real. It's one of those things where you wait.
“I'll see that's why they come up and read it, because it's like a documentary drama.”
But it's, it's Hadrian as if he's writing down his memoirs for the benefit of Marcus
really is. Okay, that's amazing. Okay, I don't know if you'll love it.
Great. Okay. So we could do, have you ever read Amber Spears? He has a great short story of all time. I'm a occurrence of outreach at outreach. Oh, right. I know that one. I know that one. So this is, this is the Amber Spears Dick. Amber Spears' father is named Lucius Varus Spears.
Okay. And his uncle is named Marcus really spears. Oh, they were committed. Yeah. And so he's very stoked for you. There's this great, there's this great story in here. It's one of my favorites. It's called Parker Adderson, philosopher. Okay. And this is, guy, he's about, you can take a look.
Is this mine? Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to, so he's about to be executed. And he's like sort of being very stoic. Which one? Absolutely. Parker Adderson, philosopher. So you know, they're going to, uh, sorry, you're going to be, um, you know, you're captured. You're going to be put to death. And he's being very stoic about it. He's telling him death doesn't matter. He's not afraid. He's willing to die for his country above.
And then sort of towards the end. He goes, and of course, we'll be hanging you as a spy. And he freaks out. And he turns out it's all, it's, the message of the story is that it's all, it's very easy to pose as the philosopher until it gets real. And it gets real in things you're poking about it. But it's like, it's like, you become a Christian in the, in the trenches. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. John Williams, you wrote Stone on how, this is about.
Okay. So I fell in this, but I love Stone. Extremely stoic, but he does talk about Athena Doris, who was the astute teacher, who's his advisor. Is all little, some sminges of stoism? Okay. Because if we have Julius Caesar, just imagine it. The play. I read the play recently.
“I don't remember that. Yeah. So, what's your key? Don't pay it over the two stoic themes about one.”
You know, Julius Caesar, I was thought was like the beginner's play. It's so good though.
It's incredible. I just, I read it maybe two years ago after reading it in high school.
Yeah. Yeah. I think it was just like a Romeo, I mean Romeo and Juliet is right also. But they're all great. But I was, I just read, discovered it. But you kind of skip over like, oh, wait, there's a female stoic character. Okay. And, and, and, and, and, and portrait data, like she. Right. Like because Brutus gets all the attention because he does the deed, but it's like Brutus is actually wavering and it's in real life.
It's Portia who's like, no, no, no, no. You got to do that. So there's this kind of, and she's, she's, Kato, the stoic philosopher. Do you ever, uh, listen to philosophize this? Steven West. Oh my God. It's like he's my philosopher King. Okay. He's so good. He's a philosopher. He's a philosopher. He, he, what you do to stoicism. He kind of brought it generally. Yeah. And, and brings it in the modern day situations. But now he's going through Shakespeare's works.
He did joyous season through the lens of philosophy at the time.
really knew his philosophy. Deeply. And it's just about how it really is a kind of an allegory
“for for the battling different philosophical systems is what the play of joy is.”
And he's taking it from Plutarch. Shakespeare's taking it from Plutarch, which he's read.
Yeah. And Plutarch is, writes a bunch about it. It's sort of criticalostosis. But it's like,
“Shakespeare was so good at mining source material and getting essence of it and fictionalizing it.”
Speaking of which Thornton wilder also wrote a novel about Joel Caesar, called The Eyes of March.
Oh, okay. Okay. That's good. Okay. Amazing. I don't know if we have it.
“Oh, please. No, it's, I think there's an abundance of riches.”
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