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The Big Suey: The Squatter, The Active Gigolo, and The Freaky Chef (feat. David Samson)

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"Do you have any Emmys, Dan?" David Samson is here to discuss the new WNBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. David believes this is a massive win for the owners and calls any other interpretation '...

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- Welcome to the Big Suri! - Presented by draft Kings. - Why are you listening to this show? - The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan-Levitard podcast.

- Sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.

- In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. - I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

- I've done it. - And now, here's the marching men to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. - This episode of the Dan-Levitard show is presented by draft Kings.

- Draft Kings, the crown is yours. - Got a number of things to talk to David Samson about from WNBA to Major League Baseball to Tracy McGrady saying that there isn't enough talent in basketball to add expansion teams

to baseball, making polymarket. Now, more mainstream that it has ever been made by anything reputable in sports, just a great number of subjects to tackle with David Samson from nothing personal.

You can catch his podcast covering terrain

that you just never see covered by others.

And I keep saying that because it's the truth.

There is nobody else in sports doing what David Samson is doing

where he is covering difficult stuff. Florio tries to do some of it. It's the closest I have seen. Florio. - Minor penalty, two minutes for boring.

(upbeat music) - We got you back, David. Dan, we have to do this to you. - I was driving in to the show when David was in studio. And it was excessive, and it was wrong.

And the officials are sending a message, go call in this game tight. We're not gonna allow you to do that to David. You were excessively mean to David who took the time. And a time where it's hard for him to travel

to be in studio and you treat him like crap. So please step out, serve your penalty. We'll get this thing started with you. - So kindly leave. - Really?

- But no. - Really, please penalty. - Kindly leave. - Please. - I can send a sample.

(laughing) - More on that in a moment, actually,

I would like to talk to you about Senegal.

But Dan did have a good set up on the WMBA stuff. What do you have? - Hey, what's up, Mike?

First of all, I just wanna tell you that it's okay

for your team to lose a game. And I understand that they're gonna try to go to be a different type of owner with that performance under the lights, but don't go change in.

You cannot let one result change your process. - I appreciate that. - I appreciate that, David. And yes, it was a big game and it was an embarrassing look for the ownership group. But the pressure got to the defending champs

as a weird thing to say. - I really do wanna join the Highlight Group Chat now. I thought about it overnight. And I agree that I could silence it if it becomes too crazy.

But the reason I wanna get in is the connection that you must have within your private group chat, about these matches and about these gods. - Oh, that's so good.

- It must be so entertaining and the pressure that you feel as an owner operator. I want to see that pressure because I will feel good about myself

by watching you suffer and basically sore.

- Yeah. - Because when you run a team, you suffer and you sore. - We kept our best player through all the downtime. - Yes, but you're right about me. - I live big.

So I want 'em low, I'm real low. And when I'm high, I treat myself to that sports heanism. Can't wait to add you to the group chat. Gotta do it now. Can't wait for you to discover that one of the taxisquatters

is an active jiggle, anyways. What do you have on the WTA? - Wait, wait. - Why? - Why? - You'll find out. He's actually in a show of juice. - This is something I didn't yesterday in your live stream.

Do they all have other jobs? - Yes. - And active jiggle is that a full time job? Are they all full time jobs like the NFL referees who may get replaced, which is something

that we should talk about. - From what I can do. - Can you imagine replacement referees? - From what I can tell, can the jiggle hours seem flexible. And he seems flexible. - Yeah. - They're okay.

- WMBS. - What's your got? - I let me talk about the WMBA because there is a yarn that is being thread, that is so wrong. The players have come out talking about, we did it. This was all about business and we mean business.

And they are taking a victory lap on this CBA agreement with Adam Silver and the NBA owners. Except when you look at what the WMBA owners were offering seven months ago versus what the players agreed to yesterday. It's a tiny smidge better, but not even close

to where the WMBA owners were willing to go.

The revenue sharing number stayed well below the 20 range.

The salary cap growing to 10 million over seven years.

Oh my God, an opt-out after six years only,

the minimum salary, hey 300 grand. Way to go, I'm happy there's an agreement don't get me wrong. But there's nothing I like better than a victory lap done by someone who just got their ass kicked. I get it, I understand you're gonna win the PR

'cause people aren't gonna focus on it, but Adam Silver and the NBA got exactly the deal they wanted and the timing was fine for them. Like a David, so help me understand this because you're saying that they got their ass kicked you.

It sounds like you believe that they could've or should've gotten more, but like I look at the numbers and you mentioned some of the numbers there, it does seem like significant-- - No, but this is why I was telling you guys though

that this was difficult to talk about yesterday because they did start spinning it in a way that made it sound David because they lifted the minimum salary in the salary cap. They made it sound like they'd won,

but it doesn't account for just how much value the WNBA now has and you seem giddy. This is the telltale sign, okay, that the owner's won. Samson, Samson sounds thrilled. He sounds happy that labor got crushed.

- Well, they getting crushed. I mean, let's not say that 300,000 is a minimum for playing a sport is getting crushed. I don't ever want to say that. - It's just not value compared to what they're worth.

That's all, it's not David. Based on how the revenues have increased, they are getting a smaller percentage of revenue than almost all athletes accept the UFC that we have in comparably valuable sports.

- So that's the bottom line.

What you just said makes sure that people understand it properly is that when you're talking about as a percentage of revenue where the WNBA players are is not in the same zip code in the reason is that the WNBA is not as profitable or solvent

or worth as much as one would think it was based on all the excitement around Caitlin Clark and all the other angel recent everybody else that was happening in women's sports. And I am all in favor of leagues,

but you need people to understand where they stand, where you are in the hierarchy of value. And that happens in companies, in businesses, in sports, in unions, people lose track. And all I'd been saying, and I got criticized for this,

is that I believe the women, the players have lost track

of where they were on the value scale, and they were trying to pass way to many levels, way too quickly, and they were shown that you can't do it. - The average salary is projected to be 600 grand, minimum salary is 300 grand.

In 2025, minimum salary was 66 grand and the super max was 249,000. So when you say it that way, everyone could say the players win, except if you were watching the riders strike and the future of AI and everything that was coming next,

this does not account for how much money these people are gonna be making in three years, not the players, the owners, because of what, look at David Smial. He knows what just happened here. He knows the players are trying to set it up

to look like a win, and they did get a bigger percentage, but they didn't get the percentage of value that this league is gonna be worth in three years, silver in the owners, one here. - And the biggest thing that I would have looked for

was an earlier opt-out, 'cause you see players get that in baseball, where, hey, let me get the opt-out,

because that is always pro player,

because if you're worth more, you opt-out, if you're worth less, you opt-in, and then you're overpaid. An opt-out in a collector bargain deal. Look what the NFL is doing with their opt-out of the media deals. They're going to CBS for an extra 50% over

what their old contractually, because of this opt-out four years from now, when the WNBA players agreed to only an opt-out after years six, you are locking it in for six years. And any time you can get a union to lock it.

Lock in at a deal that you've won for that period of time, that's the point that should be the most despondency for the players, but no one's talking about. - What I thought was that players are gonna realize that this was a bad deal in four years, in three years.

It sounds good now, they're framing it well now, but in three years, they're gonna realize, oops. - Yeah, if they have good advisors,

and that's why it's so important to have a good director of your union,

and that's why I spent so much time on today, it's nothing personal about JC Treader. If you have someone of intelligence and someone who understands business, they're not gonna be unhappy in three years, Dan. They're unhappy this morning.

And so what I'm looking for is what was announced was a verbal agreement, and that's it.

Now you get to putting it on paper,

and there's a good period of time between those two things, until we see a signed binding letter agreement, letter of intent, a draft CBA that has been approved, I'm not gonna say that this is over. - But David does everything have to come all at once

for the players, like, okay, so they got this time around. And when the next opt-out comes in six years, like then they can try and get to that next step that they believe they deserve. Like, why does everything have to come right now for them?

- No, that's my point to it, as it doesn't.

You have to be realistic about how it works,

and how you can go listen. We can go back to Kurt Flood and free agency and baseball and say, wow, at some point it's true. The prices right guy falls over the cliff, but until then you're taking incremental steps

until it's too much. It's like New York, Closet space.

There's always room for one more hanger

until finally there's not. And so you don't go for everything in a collective bargaining negotiation, but I'm really referring to the victory lap that the players are taking as though they're trying to convince us that we're stupid

and that we don't realize what actually happened. - It's working, though, David. It's absolutely, it's absolutely crazy. It's absolutely working. People think the players won and they didn't.

- Listen, there's only, we can go on the show, we can tell the truth, we can talk about the deal, but at the end of the day, PR's PR, and that's why you do PR, you were talking in your first hour about why you would talk about touchable versus untouchable.

And Dan, you just have it wrong.

The definition of untouchable in sports with players

is not the definition of untouchable when your daughter's on a date.

It is just a totally different thing.

There is no such thing as an untouchable player, but you call them untouchable because you're trying to get more and get more. And that can happen also in negotiations of a CBA. - David, is it not fair to at least perceive this

as the dumb BUNBA players winning in the short term because what did you say? - What did you say? - All right, it's come on, every time. - Let's go.

- Keep it going. - He didn't have to call it the dumb BUNBA after they lost and negotiate. - He's got three Emmys. - That's true, I do have three Emmys. Do you have any Emmys, Dan?

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When we talk about the WNBA players and the way that they raised their salary floor, the way that they raised the max at least in the short term and you've talked about being willing to give up comforts like flights and things like that.

This is a league that was relatively suffering in that department so can we n...

say that they've won in the short term that maybe four or five years from now we're looking at this and saying, "Oh, wow, how did they agree to that?" But the active life today of the WNBA player is in a better place than it was yesterday, no? - Yeah, I mean, Brittany Griner doesn't have to go to Russia again.

I feel like a big win. - That which seems like a win. There's no question.

And if you want to talk about charter versus commercial, you want to talk about housing,

which you're always funny things to talk about or things like that.

So you can always find things that you believe cause you to feel as though you're victorious. That's how our brain is supposed to work. You're supposed to look for the positive in every situation. But I'm talking about the overall deal. I just call it more pro management than pro union.

Of course, there's points within a several hundred page document that an owner would say, "I'd rather not have given that." - That was the thing that jumped out in the details that you've seen so far reported. Were there any details above all others that you were like, "Oh, that's interesting." - Yeah, it was the opt-out.

'Cause to me, that's everything down. The opt-out in these deals, it is how long you get labor peace. It is how long before you have to renegotiate. It's how long you have to sit and wallow in your loss and misery. Your economic loss and economic misery.

I was very, very surprised if what was reported is true, that the only opt-out comes after year six of a seven-year deal. - So David, it makes you crazy when it looks like the players won this negotiation when in fact they did not.

But do the owners actually care what people think if they know that they did in fact win?

- No, it's just me on the other side now, on the media side. When I was inside baseball, I would try to manipulate PR as much as possible and try to spin as much as possible. But I'd still go to bed, the president, the team, and wake up the president of the team. And it didn't matter, my ID card still works.

So at the end of the day, it really doesn't. But of course, you'd rather have positive PR, the negative PR, but it doesn't change the underlying economics or the reality of your own situation. - Are you made maddened by the fact that you know something and everywhere else you're seeing it reported as different

from what you know to be true, because I'm wrong with that. I'm watching the coverage of this and it's being framed as Ra Ra. And I just don't hear many people saying what you're saying. - Well, that's just what we try to do. I'm nothing personal then, and what you've given me the latitude to do,

which is to tell you from experience, what's happening behind the scenes. And then people can get angry or take it as they wanted or appreciate it. And there are people in the industry who know and who listen. And there's people out of the industry who say, "Oh, I haven't thought of it that way.

Let me consider that as I'm evaluating what I'm reading."

Really, the object of my show has always been just to give people a different way

to look at a set of facts and then make a decision for themselves. - But if I may, I do think that there's a little bit of a disconnect here. You're viewing this from a place of privilege, because housing is a big deal, especially in a league where the salaries aren't that big. It's not easy to live comfortably in this country.

And it speaks to a larger disconnect as I have the housing crisis continues to get worse for people. - Mike, do you get housing as part of your contract? - No, but I'm making a salary that affords me a life to have a home that I like whereas these WMBA players, there are many of them are not.

And so like housing would be a really, really big deal. There's people that make really good salaries that can't afford to live comfortably. But I think David's point, though, is and please, David, if I've got this wrong, say so.

But I think David's point is, because he's always telling you that when baseball was negotiating

this stuff, the owners were looking at the big macro stuff and the players were like, "We want clubhouse chef amenities." And when you say housing, yes, housing is a stability that people want.

But it's not as important as what do you mean they're only getting 20% of the revenue?

Like the big macro item is, this league is going to be making so much TV money in four years that these contracts are going to look stupid. - I understand, but it is important. It's not the luxury of a chef in a clubhouse. It's the stability of a home.

And I do think that-- - Yeah, but dollars are fungible, Mike. Dollars are fungible. If you get an increase of 50 grand over the course of a year salary and you allocate all of that, if it's post tax and you can add two to three grand a month, two year housing allowance, to what you can afford to do, I don't think it's the job of the owners of a WMBA team

to make sure that every one of their employees, every one of their players, has a place to live or live in situation that's good.

You have people who come work for baseball teams, they live four people in a ...

You have people on Wall Street who have roommates because New York City is expensive. It's a choice that you make.

If you want a bigger house, live further away from a city center.

There are just a ton of different ways that people account for the different cost of housing and its choices. The amount of money that you spend for an apartment in New York City or a home in LA, it's a joke, go to Montana, you get a damn ranch, but you're in Montana. By the way, beautiful, and I'd love to live there.

Maybe in theory, but so I just don't buy into the stepping over dollars to pick up pennies.

I've never liked that as an economic argument.

I'll give you a couple of stories. One of them you've probably heard before, Don King just put the suitcase of a million dollars in front of Muhammad Ali and made him sign away everything for a year because players see the one thing. I've talked to basketball owners who were negotiating largely against players who were on the end

of the bench and so they were kind, Chris Paul ended up taking some of that over, but they were giving everything that the players on the end of the bench wanted because they were looking at the macro and what David's telling you here is any player in the NBA or WNBA is going to want the stability of a home, but the macro is revenue, the owners care about what percentage of the revenue do you get and they're at UFC levels.

Like the WNBA used all the leverage that they had over the last few years to get a percentage that is among the most abhorrent you will see in sports. But these are very rich people, right? So they can be looking at it from a standpoint of, oh, I'm trying to maximize every value of a dollar for the long term, but you're looking at at people in this league in particular. We're not talking about major league baseball or the

NBA where salaries have already increased to a place where everyone should be able to live comfortably and live their life. The difference between making $120,000 a year and $600,000 a year is a massive difference, particularly in modern America. Being able to set people up with housing, look, if you're going to create your own little socialist collective as a group of owners where you could suppress salary, at least providing housing like the promise of socialism would do,

is a nice little benefit so that they don't have to worry about it. "My concept video of Drutsky." "What a f*ckin' a freaky chocolate." "I don't stay here."

"I've never seen chefs so shiny." "See, I come from a different generation. I know about

Chef Boy R.D. and Chef Al Grain. I don't know nothing about no freaky chefs. Who the f*ck is the freaky and Jamaican Ninja Turtles?" "The Jamaican Ninja Turtles is one of the taxi squatters. Hey, go put that still up of them right there." "Jigalo." "You guys said the jigalo." "Look at him." "Yeah, he's a freaky chef though." "Yeah, he's in better shape than my new. I'll give him that." "You said he's physically flexible. You said his hours are flexible. I did not know that jigalo's were still

a thing. Go ahead, David. You were going to say what Jeremy was saying." "I just enjoy hearing it because

he's talking exactly the way we want players to talk when I was in management. That's what you want.

You want them to have the view. And by the way, there's so many people Jeremy making $60,000 a year and they figure out housing. It's tough. It's definitely tough. But the difference between 120 and 600,000 for people making $60,70 grand, it doesn't much matter. And so from the WMBA standpoint, if you can give increased their minimum from $60,300 grand and you get to give them what they call a victory lap. While you are making sure that you have completely won on the revenue side

and on capturing all of your franchise value, then what's the difference? That's the beauty of this just of this side agreement. We've talked here for 25 minutes about this. Just do me the favor, Jeremy, of looking up the following. What percentage of revenue do football players get? Baseball players get and hockey get. Get me those percentages. And what did you feel like you had? Because they're saying 20%, you said it wasn't quite 20%. Do you feel like you have an

accurate appraisal of what percentage of revenue the WMBA players are going to get? I can't wait to see it, but I think they said when I read when it was released by Shoms and not by Alexa, which was a whole other ball of crap. But it looks to me like it's approaching 20, not to exceed 20. You got to wait for the language. You got to see what's actually there.

And then you have to see how it's calculated. So you can't just read the big top line.

There's going to be 10 pages of definitions of what revenue is or what revenue gets to be held

back by the NBA and doesn't even count toward what shared with the players. The devil is always

in the details. And that's what takes so long to negotiate. David, I'm glad you brought up the Shoms thing. Because I don't know if everybody understands, I guess, the controversy here. I did think it was, it stood out to me yesterday when it was Shoms, Toronto, who was releasing all of the details of this new agreement with the WMBA. And it's like, I didn't even know

Shoms, knows what's going on with the WMBA.

like, I guess the reporters who have been covering not just the WMBA, but these labor negotiations,

they're angry, right? Yeah. Well, they were sitting around all night as the negotiations went deep into the night like six or seven days straight. And it's the same company. That's the whole thing. It's Shoms and it's, it's Alexa and they're trying to figure out who gets what. Here's the problem. Shoms is platform is way bigger. And he is way more well-known. It's why they had talked about making some of the insiders for the NFL, also insiders for other sports. Because

what's the difference? You're just fed the information. You're told what to say and then you just tweeted out what it is. And that is not sort of interesting to me. What's interesting is how a big company decides what makes sense for who to get when Shoms is not camping out in front of the hotel as the negotiations are going on till three in the morning, waiting for the commissioner to give

three words on the way to room service or waiting for the head of the players you need to give six words

on the way to wherever it is that she or he are going. So Shoms, of course, is, you know, in bed, sleeping tightly and then gets to release it, but it makes sense just because he's that much bigger as a platform. So I'm saying, you can say that you can do the same thing. You're a player, but you don't have to. Egal, it's just a loss of strength. Make you just a bit like this. And when you then work, it's a chain. Save, like this. Now it's just a loss. Now it's a loss. I'm like, you're a

money-ball of sex. I'm basically Scott Hadabar. Not a w**k. Stoogats. A lot of walks, but I'm on base. When it comes to sex, it's a lot of fat. Other, other dudes, they can be Jambi. You know, you're role you play. I know my role. DCC, don't live with our show with us. Stoogats. Jeremy, what are those numbers that you were looking up playing? All of them are hovering right around 50%. So MLB is, I believe, at 47%, most recently David. And then yet it changes, but it's

always around that. You've got to keep it 50 or below. So just to put a bow on this, so you guys

understand what happened here, okay? You don't have that many teams in the WNBA. You don't have that many players to house. The difference between the partnerships and the other leagues that are close to 50, 50, and 80, 20, when this is multi-billion-dollar leagues we're talking about. Wait, do you see what these WNBA franchises start going for? David's laughing about the idea of you could have had a mansion. You settled for a dorm. You settled for a dorm. You said you

had leverage. I had nothing. Thanks for the dorm. Yeah, like, okay, you can have the other side. You can have the top line. Until I see. And this is progress. All right, these are steps.

They had nothing. They got the dorm. Next round, they go for the mansion. That's what I'm saying.

What is so hard to understand? It's a young league. Like, that's the space they're in. And yes, like the owners are going to be feeling, hey, this is a victory lab for us. We haven't had to give up the mansion yet. But what the WNBA players are doing is saying, hey, we want to lift the floor of our league. They're not even, yes, they're focused on the top end of their players, but that max contract obviously could have been a bit higher. The revenue sharing could have been

higher. But what they're trying to do is just provide economic stability in the United States for the players that are in their league. And now, they don't have to go play overseas in the same way. And if they play it on arrival, and they are the stars, and they can get marketing deals, those players will reap the benefits of their star increasing. But right now, they were just trying to take care of the bottom of the wreck. That is a really good analysis, Jeremy, except that's

not at all what the union has been saying this entire time. Their position is that they wanted

to have, I think there was a quote, we want to get what's ours. Yeah, but that's A-Channel's

not available. That's a negotiation tactic. Yes, you're shoot for the moon. And you know, damn well, what you're, you and your, your labor force is willing to accept. How am I explaining negotiating to David Samson? We're actually talking about the victory laps and about what

the reality is. That's new. That's been, baby. Well, I got to explain PR to you too. Thank you.

That doesn't seem like a sincere thank you. You're, you're, you're. No, I'm sorry for being mean, especially considering you're not being mean. No, I, I also, I'll serve a penalty. I'm sorry. No, just agreeing with someone is not being mean. It's having a conversation. I'm always wanting to learn and have a conversation. But what you're saying, what you're saying is that the union itself knew from the start that they wanted the dorm. And that's not accurate. Did they settle for the dorm?

Yes, because that's all they were ever going to get.

that you first need the dorm in order to get the three bedroom in order to get the six bedroom and then the mansion. That is bargaining. That is true. But it's not supposed to take that long in a league that has seen franchise appreciation and expansion fees excel in a way

that we never could have anticipated. That was my only point. What is your issue with Zaz and all the

things he has wrong about the Dolphins fire sale? Zaz, we, I didn't get a chance because Dan did not allow it when I was in studio. But I saw the math yesterday and I couldn't believe the amount of dead cap money that they have. Yeah. And I wanted to explain what dead cap money is because I must have it wrong. There's a salary cap of $301 million in football. But if you have dead cap space of $175 meaning you're paying money to players, not to play for you. It's my understanding

that on the field will then be $126 million. Yeah. So, or $225 and $126 is $301. Is that correct?

Yeah. So, do you not view it when you're looking at fire sales? Are you not looking at the amount of money that's on the field? Or are you looking at total money spent? I'm looking at total money spent. Like, for instance, the Marlins and you guys did it once certainly Wayne Heisinga did it back after 1997. Fire sale to me is trying to change your finances so your payroll is lower. The Dolphins payroll is not going to be any lower.

So, do you not count the $10 million that the Marlins are paying Jean Carlos Stanton this year as money for the Marlins payroll? No. Yeah. I do. Yeah. Wait, that's funny. I, wait a minute. I'd forgotten all about that. Jean Carlos Stanton is being paid by the Marlins this year. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Last year, this year next year, $10 million a year. But it's still an incredibly, it's still a very low payroll that the Marlins have, but yeah,

we can include that. So, if you're always so then why can't you go back and include

or no six the money that we had to pay the Mets to pay Carlos Delgado? I just want consistency as all I'm saying. Yeah. But the Dolphins have to eat it this year on that, but they're creating more space in the future. Like in the next couple of years, they've, like, they're hurting themselves this year. They had to, like, all the two of stuff, like they're, they're a bunch of dead money, but it makes their next couple of years better. Well, I guess it all depends. You, you say that,

but then you have to get the players and you have to do the signings and all baseball teams that

are rebuilding or bringing their payroll down in order to bring it up when they think it's the right time. That's just what sports is in pretty much every market, but LA with the Dodgers where it

doesn't matter, you're always going to be at an up, even the Braves had that in the 90s and then a

little down and then up. That's the life, that's the cycle. I just wanted Zaz to acknowledge that the light, the Dolphins cycle, it is the same. It looks the same, feels the same, smells the same as what you call a fire cell. And for me, I don't refer to any of these things as fire cells. Damn, was that all face over a penis in a trisky video? A freaky chocolate downstairs. I've never seen chefs so shiny. See, I come from a different

generation. I know about Chef Boy R. D. And Chef Al-Grain mentioned. I don't know nothing about no freaky chefs. Who the f*** is the freaky and Jamaican Ninja Turtles?

I think it was. What's the movie you're reviewing for us this week, David?

This hurts me. This hurts me, but I watched Adnan's number one movie of the year. No Oscar nominations. Nothing like that. But in his top 10, he had Mr. Scorske. I can't. First of all, you bleeped out the wrong stuff, or at least not enough of the stuff. There wasn't any way that was outstanding for the audio audience. It's just porn. So, Mr. Scorske seems like she's gonna eat it and then swallow it. I would assume you can ask people in the business but I assume

that's not how it works. There is no eating in swallow it. It is eating and spitting up I assume. So, Mr. Scorske says he five part documentary Apple TV. Adnan, I was wrong. It was a documentary that I wish had lasted 10 parts. I learned about his life and what went on with his movies and how he made them in a way that I never did. The way that he narrated each of the five parts. And I believe the director is Daniel Day Lewis's wife Rebecca Miller, the daughter

of Playwright Arthur Miller. Don't have that confirmed but you can check it, Coca. And I thought it was the best documentary I had seen all year. And I had just reviewed the Oscar documentaries. So, Adnan, thank you for making me watch it. Do I think that your top 10 lists are still ridiculous because they're all Scorske's busy based no matter what. And therefore, you lose credibility, I do. But in this case, Mr. Scorske says young Apple TV is a must watch for everybody.

He is David Samson.

want to challenge me or recommend to me or anyone else, someone who you think is doing what David

Samson is doing on the sports landscape. I'm willing to listen and I'm willing to entertain nominees, but I have not seen what David is doing with the kind of legal and business expertise that he's doing it with from anybody in sports media. Thank you, David. Appreciate the time. Thank you. I cannot believe that I have not gotten to this story of what it is that happened to me yesterday. I think you guys are going to be both amused and appalled. And I think you guys

should help me tell me how I should feel about what I'm about to say. Okay, this is how I spent my day yesterday sort of realizing over the last couple of weeks like you're watching, usual suspects and Kaiser Sose and everything comes together at the end where you're like,

"Oh, that's why that was happening." So for a few years, my wife and I have been working on building

a house trying to get a house built and we've been using it as an Airbnb in the interim, okay? And we're in and out of using the house and others are using the house. And a couple of times after someone hasn't stayed there, I've been like, "Oh, some things have been moved. I don't understand why that's over there who did that. I'll call somebody to somebody do this. Don't understand it. Got some mail one day and I'm looking through the mail and there are a couple of things

in there that are the correct address, but are not my name. And I'm like, what is this? This isn't here. I throw it out yesterday. A least calls me. My assistant and says, "Do you guys know why the room upstairs is locked? You have a squatter?" And the room upstairs is locked. Why would it be locked? Is there someone in there? She's like, "No, there's not anyone in there, but what do you mean it's locked?" So it's locked from the inside, but there's no one in there. Yeah, there's no one in there.

And it's also a room by the way that is totally empty. Like it's a room that has no furniture in it and it's locked. So we don't know. So we go to start figuring it out and trying to figure it out and we open the door and break in. There's a bed and a television hung in there that's not ours. I had also spotted a few days earlier. I'd open a drawer and there were a bunch of door knobs in there. And I'm like, why are there door knobs in there? That squatter was preparing to fully occupy my house,

to have everything in there. His door knobs so that when I got there and said it's my house, he could spend months there litigating for free that arguing with me over whether it's my house or his. He was this close to changing all of the locks in my house and was living in my house. There was a full television where he had been living in the interim and the house is an empty for all that long. So it's weird the how quickly he got in there and how quickly he was about

to it. Did you guys see the movie Pacific Heights with I think it's Michael Keaton. It's like a 90s movie

where a squatter takes advantage of the legal system. But that squatter was welcomed into the house at one. No, I didn't see it. I gathered as much, which is why I just kept talking. I could see from the blank look on your faces. The no was under specific one. It was totally redundant by the time that I said it. I could tell by the way, you know, it wasn't just the silence. It was the blank stairs on all of your faces. There's why I ran right through it and just kept galvanicked.

That was with like the robot's Pacific Rim, right? That's a deadly different movie. Kaiju, because in tight, what you call me? Oh my god, can you guys tell me how I'm supposed to feel about this? Because terrified. It felt angry like a violation. I'm angry for you, man. That is that is so bothersome. It like squatters, right? It doesn't even make sense. It's there's nothing you could do about it. How do you prevent that person coming back now? He was going, well, he's in jail.

No, we had him arrested that quick. Yeah. He usually never happens. What happened? Where did you find the

person? Because the room was empty. He said there was no. He wasn't there and then the cops wait and later that night. They waited for somebody to show up who ended up showing up later that night was coming through a window. Because if he was in your house, they would not have been able to arrest that's correct. No, no, we got there. I'm telling you, that's so stupid. I got, I should have

figured out what the door knobs. I couldn't figure out why they're like who's door knobs are these?

Why are there door knobs in this drawer? Where did these come from? But there was somebody who's sneaking in in the house around when we were there. Like was it was able to do it? I'm rarely upstairs. I would have no reason to go upstairs. The mailed didn't clue me. The door knobs didn't clue me. And the way that we got him arrested last night is the cop was just waiting for him to get there and evidently he pulled up in front of the cop and started saying, yeah, this is my house.

This is my house. Was there an upside-down pineapple on the door? I always take that with me before I

Leave because I don't want anybody to know that I like that.

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