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Interesting question about blue bloods in college basketball.

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It's IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio. Roger Bennett, men and blazers. One of our favorite guests. He has a book out, new book out. That'll be a number one New York Times best seller.

It has to do with the World Cup and Reggie Miller. NBA on NBC, he'll join us coming up as well. Each seven, seven, three D.P. show operator. Tyler is going to pick your phone calls coming up. Email address d pitdampatric.com.

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“Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And then Paul is sent this one and who would you follow?”

Who would you follow in a fire? Follow, follow in a fire. Okay. As in the places on fire and the five of us go in one different in different directions. Where are you following?

Hmm. And Paul Seaton Todd Martin. Well, not Todd. Well, he's an option. Yes, not Todd.

I don't know. I think Todd instinctively is going towards these safest places. Fastest humanly possible. He would go to the safest place. It would take him longer to get to the safest place. Therefore, it might not be the safest place by the time he got up.

But I could bring it to your attention and point to where I'm trying to get to. You guys can just speed it ahead to that. That's kind of like the, you don't have to outrun a bear. You just have to outrun the person you're with. Strategy.

Yes. Got it. Yes. Got it. Because yesterday Todd was quick to leave the building.

He left faster than Elvis left the building. Once the fire was raging out of control. And the big German put it out. I know my limitations. I was going to be able to figure out what's going on.

I had to put it out. So I might as well just save myself. No, and I respected that. You weren't going to help. And you made sure you got out the door.

I think I did say, guys, run. There's a fire.

I don't know if that's helpful.

Wow. You were running. Yes. You're voice was trailing off from the parking lot. I think he said, run.

But, you know, we've survived an earthquake here. A couple of like six years ago, we survived the fire. It'll be known as the fire of 2026. But we're good. But thanks.

Once again to the big German, who was a certified firefighter. And he was ready with his equipment. And, you know, if we had to break down the door, he had an axe to do that. But others have axe to grind. He has an axe that he would use just to free me from this side of the potential disaster.

All right. So Roger Bennett will join us coming up. We have our poll question for hour two. We had a caller at the end of last hour talking about Duke is not a blue blood basketball program.

“Because you have to have, I'm going to paraphrase here,”

at least two coaches at your university winning a national championship.

Because Duke hasn't had that yet because Coach Cave is there for 40 years. And John Shire has come close, but he has not won a national championship. But if you're going to sit here and tell me, UCLA is a blue blood only because Jim Harris won a title. And to couple that with John Wooden, I'm not buying that.

Joe B. Hall won a national title. Of course, eight off, up at Kentucky. I don't know how many pro because there might be a couple of sneaky programs at one title. But you wouldn't think that they were blue bloods. Yes, Paul.

I've got a few definitions here looking this up. Some are obvious elite historically dominant. D1 programs with multiple national titles. Regular, final four appearances over generations. Kentucky, North Carolina.

Duke, they started kind of in the late 70s being good. But they've been good for 45 years. Great. Basically. Yeah, they weren't good when Coach Cave got there.

UCLA wasn't great when Coach Wooden got there. They look at UCLA as a blue blood who isn't as good as they used to be. But they are considered a blue blood. Kansas, J. Hawks, of course.

“The Indiana Hoosiers, the past 20 years, not great.”

But they had a long run. Yeah, but they only won with Bob Knight. Right. So that doesn't make him a blue blood if you don't have another coach who won a national title. According to one of our listeners.

I like to call you con a new blood. Because you con since 1999 is the most successful college basketball program. Men's and women's, but men's. Yeah. But the women's is not a blue blood because you've only had Gino there.

Right. According to this definition, which I don't buy into it, you con men's and women's blue blood. Do they be years not amount of coaches? Yeah. I want pro-longed dominance, consistency.

A high level basketball, or, you know, wouldn't get could be football as well. Yeah, see. But I see the point, though, that you can have, you could be consistently great for 40 years. But if it's only with one guy, then it's really the guy that's great and not the program. Yeah.

But we're giving UCLA credit for a, you know, Jim Herrick winning a title that that made him a blue blood. Because they want a title and John wouldn't win all his titles. Yeah. No.

“So what we're saying, UCLA, not a blue blood, obviously.”

There are blue ish, like a light blueish blue blood. Yes, Marvin. Villain over. Rolly Massimino and Jay Wright. Yeah.

Couple. I'm not sure if you would call them a blue blood, but they're blue blood ish. They've been really good for a long time. Well, with this definition. Right.

Right. I don't buy into that. So John Shire wins a national title this year. Now Duke's a blue blood, the Duke blue bloods. Yes, sir.

There are some that obviously pass this do. Smell test. Right. Kentucky for sure. North Carolina for sure.

Yeah. Kentucky's had three coaches when national titles. Kansas. For Marvin. Wrap.

Jobi Hall. Patino Calapar. Patino want an actual title at Kentucky? In 96. Oh, that's right.

I was there. I'm sorry. I'm old. Yeah, I was actually there at that game in the locker room afterwards. Okay.

There's no other school that has four coaches to win national titles at the same school do. Yeah. Kentucky has a Wrap. Jobi Hall.

Rick Patino. Toby Smith. Oh, thank God. Five. John Calapar.

Andy. Toby.

First year after Patino left.

I won with Patino's player. Technically count on this is tab. Oh, apologies. Day. Tovinson.

Okay. Well, it is the Bluegrass State. How about you?

All right. Five coaches.

That's as blue as you can be.

Yeah. All right. Kind of interesting. I'm sure this audience will chip in with few others there. I love listening to Jeff Tig.

Jeff Tig has the club five twenty podcast. And he wasn't a great player. But he is an honest broadcaster. He's he was a good player.

“You know, he's a guy that you, you remember the name and maybe you saw him a little bit.”

But when it comes to giving opinions, he is elite. And he talked about how Larry Bird would do in today's NBA. Watch out. Yeah. You're a small four version.

You think he would be like one of the best. Yeah.

Larry Bird would do this night and night now.

Sometimes like he's to watch like older people play. I see people like man. Yeah. I feel like they can't. That's what they want.

I was joking. It's just like he walking around. Yeah. He just make it look so stuff. I'm like Larry Bird player right now.

Like Luke and Yoke just be walking around. That's very funny. For sure. Yeah. And these guys are right.

We get caught up in all this guy couldn't play now. Bird would be he would have the green light to take ten three pointers again. Because back when he was playing, you might take two or three. That was it. It'd be really rare if it took more than three three pointers.

You know, as far as passing, rebounding, scoring.

“He would be a smaller version of Joker and I think Joker's the best player in the game.”

Because when he goes out there, he's going to he has the potential to give you 30, 15, and 10 every single night. And it used to be unheard of when you would put up those kind of numbers. Now I know we're scoring more. But these are still elite athletes and he makes it look really, really easy. And it's not like he's going to slow down because he can't get a slower.

And Bird was more athletic than Joker. He could lead the fast break if you'd look when they played against the Lakers. The Celtics are running a fast break on Showtime. But Bird would not have any, I mean, would he have problems or if, yeah, he would. But he would be great.

And you know, he might be able to prolong his career better conditioning. Help his back. But Larry Bird would dominate. He would be a great player. And I go with LeBron's best year ever and Larry's best year.

And I think they were around 29 and Larry was a better player than LeBron. Like on the offensive side, better player. And I don't know, I think LeBron made a few old NBA defensive teams. But I mean, he was more and off the ball. Just like Bird played the passing lanes. He wasn't guarding anybody, really.

Yeah, Paul. He ended that riff. One of the guys says Bird these days, he'd average 30, 10 and 8. His last year before he heard his back, he averaged 30, 10 and 8. And he'd be shooting, like you said, twice as many threes. Yeah, he would still, you know, once again, having been there and watched it at a very, very high level.

It's like, oh, would magic be able to, yes, magic would be able to be. You know, Rick Barry, who's one of the most underrated players in the history of the sport. These guys were all great. They know how to play basketball. Yeah, see? What if Larry Bird started putting up all those shots and missed a lot of them and then his legacy was significantly diminished.

Where he was then considered overrated because he can't shoot threes. I don't take my chance on Larry shooting threes. What if all this is what if it didn't work out for him?

“And that's why he only took threes because he wasn't really that great of a shooter.”

Well, when you have people say if your life was on the line and you wanted somebody to take a three-pointer, you're actual life limited window, really. See, it's really very small person. Yeah, Larry would be great. Me would be.

But if everybody knew he was that great of a shooter, then why didn't they let him shoot? It wasn't part of the offensive philosophy. Yeah, but if you have this kind of shooter and you're like, man, this dude's knocking him down like crazy. Why don't we just let him rip? Well, they didn't do that for Reggie.

Yeah, why not? That's the offensive philosophy back then. It was about getting the ball inside. It was still, it was an interior game. Yeah, Paul.

It's a really fair question. Why didn't Larry birthday take eight threes a game? He took 2.9, the most ever took in a season. Like you said, the sport was just totally different. That would have been too radical.

It's almost like Dan Marina. Why didn't Dan Marina happen a decade earlier? The sport hadn't morphed yet to have that opening or have a coach that would push for that.

Yeah, and you see basketball now and you know, I always bring up loyal to Marymount.

What they did even go back to Rick Patino's team at Providence and what he did there using the three pointer.

And I think Paul Westhead with loyal to Marymount to have that creative, you know, even with football.

“You know, when you're running, if it was the West Coast offense or you're running a pistol or whatever, you know, June Jones.”

Who was the other guy from Texas? There was another, Houston, Mount Davis? Yeah, yes, Mount Davis. You know, these guys were innovators. But the NBA was pretty boring, conservative.

The ABA brought out the best in the NBA because, except for the red, white, and blue ball, which I'd be fine if they brought that back. I've watching that ABA documentary. Man, I loved shooting with that red, white, and blue ball just getting the spin. You know, just you can see the rotation as it went into the net Marvin. I know I get you, oh, let me ask you a question.

Okay. A bigger ego everybody on earth or Rick Barry. That I question, but he was a killer. He was great. He was great.

But he'll tell you about it.

But he will, yeah, Rick Barry was great. Just ask Rick Barry. But what he did with that golden state team, and they won the NBA championship, and that was Rick Barry. Now, he had a great assortment of players, role players. But the other player that he had was Jamal Wilkes.

“I think silk Wilkes was there, but they didn't have, you know,”

undersized guards and Rick Barry, he was a great player. Great player. Yes, Marvin. Is he in the Moses Malone category where you don't talk about him enough? Or the general public don't talk about him enough the way we talk about maybe magic and

Michael and those guys. Well, there was nothing. You know, I talk about Moses that artistically stylistic. It wasn't pleasing to watch. He was just relentless.

Like his his jumper was over his head and a little off balance.

It, it wasn't a good jumper. Jump shot. But on the boards, he's probably the best that I ever saw offensively and defensively combined. Now, we can put Wilp Russell in there. But I'm just talking about modern day and Moses was great.

But he came along, came out of high school, went to the NBA. You know, they maybe you missed some of that early career. It's like Dr. Jay. I mean, Dr. Jay. Can't his best years in the ABA.

He's just different. He was different than anybody else. But this gives you an idea.

“And that's what I loved about the ABA documentary.”

It's a lot of interviews. A lot of guys still alive that they talk to and very enjoyable. It brought back a lot of memories. And the fact that I'm watching the Kentucky kernels in person and they're playing the spirits of St. Louis. And you got Danny and soul and artist Gilmore.

And then you had Marvin Bad news barns. I think fly Williams on the team. I think Bob Costus was the broadcast. He was. Yeah.

Yes. Marvin Bad news barn sounds like a boxer. Way went to prison. Okay. Played it Providence with Ernie D. Gergoryo.

Sounds like a dude who's like the Bantam weight. He was not Bantam. Yeah. He was. Bad news.

Marvin Bad news barns. I did a story when I was at ESPN. I visited him in a California lockup. And. That was surreal because you do the interview.

Obviously in kind of the general area. And people thought he was getting preferential trick. Like they were just yelling. I'm trying to do an interview. And yeah, that was to see him that he had fallen that far that he was in prison.

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He's got an empire. He's Roger Bennett. He's the founder, CEO of Men in Blazers, media network, fully British, but fully American as well. It's called We Are the World Cup,

a personal history of the world's greatest sporting event. Great to have you back. Oh, damn Patrick, it's a joy to see you beautiful. How are you? How's morale? I'm alive, Dan, which is better than the other option.

But only just is the honest truth. In every regard, these are the best of times the worst of times. 100 days out from a world cup, and the world is making it quite complicated. I'm not gonna lie.

Okay, if you're going to pitch to somebody 30 seconds, and you're gonna say you gotta watch the world cup. How would you use those 30 seconds to say, you gotta watch this event? Oh, tell me to buy my book,

because it's a magical telling of the power of the men's tournament, which have come to realize that it's like a solar eclipse that engulfs the entire planet for its duration. Who doesn't want to be part of that?

“I think that was even less than 30 seconds, sir.”

Like, you know, time is money, Dan.

it's a fantastic game of baseball as chess was chewing tobacco. But when two teams take their nation's shirts onto a football field, their nation's history, their nation's politics, their nation's cultures take the field alongside them. It's a mirror to humanity, it's a mirror to our world.

“I think Walt Whitman, if he was alive today,”

be a big football fan, he'd take contains multitudes. And then the only other thing I'd say before we get into this, in our dark world, a world of chaos, the World Cup, 200 million people watch the Super Bowl max, probably at this point, five billion people watch the World Cup.

And so it's the last thing that completely, electrically globally connects us in, please go the positive way. And we really need that right now, huh? Yeah, but you don't shy away from the geopolitical portion of the World Cup, and it's certainly what's going on now,

teams that their countries that are going to be in, like is Iran not going to be in, and then who do you put in if Iran's not going to be playing in the World Cup? You know, who, quite possibly could come in if Iran don't get in, because they're already 36 hours into the weekend's darkness,

the head of the Iran Football Federation said, yep, we may not be able to play in this World Cup in Los Angeles and Seattle, it would be a rack, Dan. [LAUGHTER] Oh, wow.

Yeah, I, to your question, it's why I wrote the book,

“which starts in 1978, the first World Cup I remember,”

every four years, it's the spine of my life, the spine of so many Americans' life now, this incredible tournament, that is so rare. And almost like, you know, Dylan albums for Dylan, a fish in our days, the World Cup is an alternate way

for me of re-examining my biography. And again, millions of people around the world feel the same.

I've always felt the joy of football is,

there is a mirror up to the world that surrounds it in all seriousness. It's always been very beautiful to me. Yeah, when the World Cup was in South Africa in 2010, Mandela's South Africa, and we got to see a whole continent rise

and seize the world spotlight. It's very, very profound, it's very, very beautiful. We come to realize, in modern times, that the mirror stays true, even when the world becomes chaotic and ugly. It's kind of where we are right now.

And as you say, the geopolitics could not be more complicated, it's fairly unprecedented that this situation, not just the US situation, you know, Mexican, the violence there in Guadalajara, a World Cup city. That's just a Canada, as the third host,

looking pretty bloody good right now. You look at the US team, and it feels like, in a different generation with Landon Donovan, Tim Howard, like, we knew them. This team, I don't know if they're going to be more talented,

I don't know if they're better, but it doesn't feel like we know this American team, as much as we did that team, you know, from a few years ago. Isn't that crazy?

Because football's never been more popular in the United States,

and it is now the economist, a couple of weeks ago, revealed that soccer is America's third favourite sport, just pushed out baseball. 10% of Americans say soccer is their favourite sport, the choice baseball at 9%, I was laughing, I went on a rod show,

and he kept asking me variations of the same question, which was like, "When's soccer going to take off in the United States?" I was like, "A rod, it's just edged out your baseball, baby. I felt like I was saying the world is round a rod,

and you are a flat earther. So the sport's never been more popular. We have a young audience that's grown and will come to World Cup across this nation, and the crazy thing that's happened is,

in the olden days we used to cheer the U.S. team just by default, because there was like what you had. But now this young audience, they cheer for Liverpool, they cheer for Arsenal, they cheer for Paris and German, they cheer for Barcelona, Real Madrid.

They are watching 24/7, and you're right, it does feel like the U.S. team has almost gone into a bubble. And I do hope it's one of the storylines,

because we've never had more talented male players individually

than we currently have right now playing on bigger teams and bigger games and bigger tournaments. Our women kick ass and take names and actually win things, but the men's team need to make some noise at this tournament to make our nation really cat.

Does Christian Policic want to be the face? Does he want to be bigger?

“Because you have to put yourself out there”

to want to be the face of U.S. soccer. You will have to get Christian Policic to answer that question himself. He is a, we've tried, he doesn't do much. Who doesn't say yes to the big team?

I mean, I'll say I first interviewed Christian when he was 16.

“He is the most talented, the most accomplished young,”

male footballer on nations have a producer in terms of playing the biggest games for the biggest teams, consistently scoring. You know, Clint Dempsey is the most remarkable in terms of his, you know, thriving in Europe.

What Christian has done is without a doubt, what he can do with a football is without a doubt. Peel us. He's also incredibly quiet. He's also incredibly introverted.

But he's also the gentleman who's cursed early by a reality TV show at a porn store, whether we're trying to explain how much they are Christian, politics sign jerseys should be and that the porn shop owner goes,

"Oh, dude's like the Lebron James of Sucker." So that's kind of cursed him. And he is the commercial face. You'll see him in every ad. Other than the ones that David Beckham is going to be

all over a world cup.

But like, given the choice, does he want to do it?

The honest truth is he's made it very clear. He doesn't, he loves playing football. It's where he speaks.

“You know, the athletes like this in the NBA and the NFL.”

They like to do that talking on the court. That's who Christian Policic is in his heart. And so... Policic reminds me of Mike Trout from the Angels. Mike Trout, you know.

It's like we're waiting for him to show his personality. He's not going to. Hey, you got to be the face of the sport. It's not happening here. It's like, you know, Western McKinney might be the guy

that people focus on and go, "All right, that guy." He wants to be maybe a little bit more. Yeah, I mean, Chris Richard, who plays in the Crystal Palace in the Premier League. This child of Birmingham, Alabama, who, you know,

has made it to the Premier League. You have not really acknowledged. I'm bloody blown away, damn it. In your, oh, can I just say, I'm going to tell a story in the book about how

I started a do morning joke in 2010. Where had a football really taking off here? Joe Scott would just love the Premier League. It would have me on. It was crazy.

They'd be doing like Stagflation. They're the recession in the economy. We might work.

“And then they'd be like, "And here's what you've been in!"”

And I'd be like, "Yo!" So I'd drop in.

And the second time I was on Tom Brokehouse,

stopped me and goes, "Yo, yo, yo, yo!" And I said, "What Tom?" And he goes, "Why are we talking about soccer? On Monday and Wednesday we have baseball and younger Americans love baseball.

And we should be talking about baseball." And he went off on me for five minutes. I didn't get a word of it. But in my own head, I was like, "I can't interrupt Tom Brokehouse." Like the queen.

And he just, he danced on my graves. He spat me out. And I walked off set, like any word in. I felt like that big. And they said, "Come on, next week, Roger."

I was like, "Really? Want me on after that man?" There's just a masculinity. And every time for two years, every time we was on set,

I'd be like, "Get Brokehouse." And then we'll broke our off. They'd wheel him off. Like, "You know, off you go Grandpa." And then two years on,

they had him on. And I was like, "Get Brokehouse. Thought you're going to go on. Going live." Three, two, one.

And I started. I was like, "You know, Manchester and Brokehouse. Whoa, whoa, whoa!" I was like, "What Brokehouse? What do you want, man?"

And Brokehouse. I used to hate soccer. I was like, "And now you scarred me for several years Tom." And he goes, "And now, every Christmas I go with my son-in-laws to England to watch

football four or five Premier League games and we fly coach." And I realized when we've got Tom Brokehouse in our football camp tomorrow night in Houston, we're doing a live show with JJ Wat.

You know, that child of Wisconsin, who grew up playing hockey and gridown football. When we've got Brokehouse, and we've got JJ Wat. And we've got Dan Patrick dropping names.

I think we've kind of made it. Is this the moment football makes it in a minute? I think so. Roger Bennett, the founder of CEO of Men and Blazers, Media Network, and his book,

released today, we are the World Cup, a personal history of the world's greatest supporting of him. But you bring up an interesting point of you're building a brand in a country. Soccer men soccer trying to build a brand

in the same country here. And the challenges of being able to do that it feels like you've been more successful than maybe the U.S. men's team has in building that brand. Yeah, it's the story of my lifetime is coming over here.

1994, the last time the men's World Cup was here. Going into the World Cup, there was a study released. That's how this story in the book. When they said soccer is the 67th most popular sport in America, track to pulling is 66.

Again, everyone taking a dump on soccer. They were like, doomsaying, like, this is going to be a disaster.

I went to the game in Chicago.

“I didn't have to any money for a ticket.”

Just to mill around in case no one turned up to travel at like a third cousin or wedding. Just like to meet the background in the photos. Kind of feel it all over. It was mobbed.

Americans love a circus. They love an excuse to date on drink. Still the best attended World Cup. Ever. It will be broken.

Please God. This summer. And it was meant to make America a football living nation, 94. Like space to captain Kirk.

The final frontier was what the U.S. was, but it didn't happen overnight. Instead, it's happened organically, authentically. Instead of it, soccer became like a yo-yo or a hula hoop, like an overnight sensation, a fad.

The roots have really deeply beautifully. It's been the story of my life. And watching Young Americans are audience. You're 18 to 24. Fall in love with soccer, men's soccer, women's soccer.

There's an enormous Hispanic audience in the United States. And Americans love the best. You're drawn to the best. The NFL. Best in the world.

Sorry Canadian Football League. The NBA. Best in the world. And the complicated thing for soccer down is that the best in the world is played in England. The Premier League.

And ultimately, that's where the audience has really been captivated with the rise of streaming. The rise of cable. Being able to see games live. Every week. Follow along via the internet.

That changed everything. The young Americans, the connect to these teams from Los Angeles as if they were in Liverpool.

“And that's what's driven the connection.”

What's amazing is that young Americans have now fallen in love.

Young Americans like Tom Broker. I've fallen in love with the sport. What's amazing is that it's not discussed enough. The Premier League is now owned. Majority by Americans.

The most over half the teams have American owners. The Red Sox Tom worded John Henry running Liverpool. The Dodgers Todd Burley and his group running Chelsea. Manchester United. The Buck and Ares group.

The Glazers for good all for bad. And so on and so on. It's incredible. Like America. We are essentially after this World Cup.

Going to be taking football again. It's complicated for good and for bad into the American age. Which is, which is crazy. Give me the best case scenario for this United States team. Oh, Dan.

I mean, football. If it's not about optimism and hope and delusion, then I don't know what it is. And I do a dream of these boys. You have Tyler Adams. This young guy from Woppin just falls in New York.

He drove six hours every day for five days a week for seven years to train in New York City. I mean, they're sacrifice. The dreams, the hunger. I dream for them. I really do.

I mean, the bottom line is it's crazy.

Our women kick ass and take names. Our men in this nation where we put a man on the moon. We invented the Corona amongst other things. We've won bloody knockout game in the, you know, going back to George Washington in the World Cup. That's crazy.

Morocco got into the semi-final with joy and worth an audacity. We've won knockout game in our nation's history. You're disgusting. I need to know. What is the best case scenario here?

What am I going to say? We're going to win it all. Oh, three not every night. That's the best case scenario. It is.

Then that could happen. I will take that bet on the from you down. If you believe that. I hope it happens once in my lifetime. That's, I don't ask for much man.

I don't ask for much. What if England won? Oh, that'd be a bearable won't they? That'd be a bearable. What if England win?

America get ready for the sight of growing men bending over. And like I say, firing fireworks out of cabbages. You did not know it was possible to fire fire. Let's crazy man. You've just asked me the equivalent of what if Charlie Brown can kick.

Can kick a field goal with Lucy holding. I mean, England loses England's self sabotage. England creates trauma. That's why England does. England wins anybody better at losing than England.

Oh, that's it.

“Why did the Chicago white socks just pop into my head and you caused me pain?”

No. No, I mean, I've above my head. I have a book which is a biography of English World Cup campaign. You also had the Tracy Chapman album over your shoulder.

Oh, Tracy, come on my show. You're the one guess we've never had.

She was a soccer player at Tufts three goals to assist. Just come on. Come here, mate. No, you know what? I have that on there.

Because when my team, I support Everton. We're very bad at football. When we lose, which is often, I put Tracy Chapman fast car on. And I realize the agony I'm feeling is nothing compared to the pain that Tracy

There's a, I used a line from the Uruguay and poet Eduardo Gallion who said football

is a pleasure that hurts.

“And the, so England, they hurt the nation.”

They raise their hopes. They shattered them. The book I have above my head is called 40 years of shite. Am I allowed to say that on New York? It was just kind of captures of where they are. I support American now. Anyway, baby.

So I honestly don't care. He's Roger Bennett, founder of CEO of Men and Blazers Media Network and the book released today. We're 100 days out. We are the world cup.

A personal history of the world's greatest support event. Pleasure to talk to you again. Good luck with the book. Danny, thanks for having us. I love you.

I love your team. It's really a joy to be with you. Thanks. Thank you, bud. We'll come back.

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Yeah, we got up there for the second hour. Who would you follow to safety in a fire? Dan, the front row, or the back row. Now, I'm, I'm just gonna throw this out there.

No offense, Todd.

Oh, I mean, the back row's gonna lose this one.

Yes, yes. I don't think it's because of me, but it might be. I would follow the backroom guys. That included the big German and his brother. Then yeah, I should throw the, I should throw the BRGs in there.

Yeah, right. Dylan might be able to figure out a way to get out of the building. I mean, there's a lot of doors here though. What are the results so far? Right now, 47% of the audience would follow you.

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What's on your mind today? Oh, good morning, Dan. Dan, thanks for taking my call. Well, you know, left turn as far as blue blood, you know, programs in the NCAA tournament. Kind of got me going.

I'm a big blue, blue devil fan.

They do put blue and blue blood. You can't have, you know, as far as top four in national championships. Top three in tournament wins. Top two in number one seed to ever 11 championship games. 17 final fours.

Doesn't matter who's coaching, you know, matters if you win. You know, you're talking to two coaches for a program and see state in Ohio State. They're blue blood? No, I don't think so. Florida Gators may be, but they're not quite up to that upper echelon of consistency.

And I do cast five double-digit win over ranked opponents this year, which is the most by any program since 2001 or 2002. So there's my argument staying in your lane. Don't argue about new coaches. All right.

Thank you, Andrew. Thank you. Yeah, I just want sustainability. That's all.

“I don't think you need to have another coach to come in and win and win a title.”

And then you become a blue blood. You know, tubby Smith winning another title for Kentucky doesn't change my opinion of Kentucky. They're a blue blood. Absolutely. A Louisville basketball.

Add two different coaches. Great run. Not as of late, but, you know, when Danny Crum was there. Man, when, you know, they had their own Griffith. Dr. Duncan Stein.

Golly, were they a fun team. When Louisville played Houston. Was that the semi-finals? Yep. Oh, my goodness.

That was just up and down. They were doing things that, you know, maybe a tenth of a per one percent of people in the United States playing basketball could do. Maybe even less than that. Yes, Paul.

That was the semifinal. Houston won 94 81 in Albuquerque. I came to dreams on the team. Clyde Drexler's on the team. And there's some star power.

But because of the result of that game, nobody thought NC State could be Houston. Because, and back then, they didn't have a shot clock. And Jim Volvano outsmarted. Guy Lewis.

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And Valvano won a national championship. Yes, Paul. Houston came out of the tunnel, sporting five slam a jam on warm-up shirts.

It's the first time they've ever worn them.

They dunked 14 times in the game as a team. Yeah. We have something to see. There was that was that was. I've seen a lot.

But that's one of those games where you go. This is being played at a different altitude. I mean, and it was because it was literally at a different altitude. Yeah.

“Was there a portion of the population that reacted negatively to that many dunks?”

I don't remember that. It feels like that's one of those moments where it's like, this isn't basketball. That's not pain. Well, okay. Maybe a few grew up in the 50s.

Well, I mean, that would have been the generational split, right? Yeah. That's not the game I grew up watching. One of these guys doing jumping. Yeah.

Fundamentals. Yes, they're dribbling behind their back. What are they doing? Yeah. It's not the game.

Who told the announcers to sound like that? Back then. Does all the announcers sound like that? Was it Hollywood? I'll have half a pound of ham and some cheddar cheese.

Hey, that's how you order your. I recognize that voice. You're the voice of the New York football giant. No problem, sir. We've got that coming up right there.

Yeah.

“I think it was Hollywood that created that.”

Was it the news reels memory you go to a movie theater? Yes.

And the Titanic, sank on this day.

“I don't think I found a lot of those and they have that tone.”

It's just like doing like war updates of something. Yeah. Oh, get 'em boys. What? Go get 'em.

This is how we find out. What's happening in the world? Are you going to the movies? I know. I'm going to fix this show.

Let's get an update on the front line to Germany.

Oh, get 'em boys. What? That's it. Go get 'em boys.

“They started the 1910s news reels during movies.”

And they were big in the 30s and 40s. Yeah. Everyone. Damn. Yes.

I'm waiting for the right way. Hello. Yes. Don't mess with us. Final hour on the way.

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