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your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. There's a lot of things to discuss NFL-wise, because you got some players that were going to be released. Free agency, the draft is coming up, you got a transitional tag with Daniel Jones.
The NFL surprises you every couple of years and you owe the commissioner's exemplist. I didn't know that existed. The cults have placed the transition tag on Daniel Jones. That means we're not going to franchise you. We're going to let you seek other offers if you want, and then we get to have the final
safe we want to keep you. So it's kind of like saying, we like you, but at a cost, at a price, because a Kelly surgery and the off season, and you're not quite sure what you were going to get. We saw that in the first, what nine, ten games of the season, it played really well. The cults were one of the top stories in the NFL that he gets hurt.
Now are you going to pony up? How much money?
βI think he's going to make around $37 million if he comes back to the cults that oneβ
year deal for $37 million to maybe prove yourself again and then get another contract.
The move that I'm really curious about or the next move for this player is Kyler Murray. You know, my good buddy Kyler Murray, because if I look back when he first started with Arizona, those first three years are respectable. I'll run down the numbers here. The first year in Arizona, he completed 64% of his passes.
He threw for 3700 yards and he had 20 touchdowns 12 intersections. He was the rookie of the year. The next year completed 67% through for 3900 yards, 26 touchdowns, 12 intersections, all very respectable. The third year, he completed almost 70% of his passes.
He had almost 3800 yards, 24 touchdowns, 10 intersections. We're good. And then they signed him to the contract extension. Then all of a sudden, it was 66% completion, 2300 yards, 14 touchdowns, 7 intersections. Now, there are rushing yards to go along with this.
And then all of a sudden, the next year, it was 10 touchdowns, five intersections, and 1,800 yards. Now he did come back in 2024, almost 69% completion, almost 3,900 yards, 21 touchdowns, 11 intersections. These are all respectable.
So, there's 1, 2, 3, 4, 4 seasons that are respectable. But most teams, middle of the road in lower would go, sign up for that. In fact, a few teams in the upper tier might go, "Hey, I'll take that any day."
Then he had last year, he completed 68% and he threw for under 1,000 yards, 6...
3 intersections. Now they, of course, he was a healthy scratch, it felt like, and they were done with him.
βNow the question is, what kind of a Murray can you get?β
And I bring back what he was, those first three years, for his first six years, very respectable.
But a team like Minnesota, and you got him inside on turf, you got some receivers. We like Kevin O'Connell as a head coach. Maybe that is sort of his reclamation, because we see this and we're going to see this again this year. Like who is this year's Sam Donald?
And maybe we just named the award after Sam Donald, because it's the reclamation award goes to, and maybe it's Daniel Jones, but you have some of these players, you know, Gino Smith might end up in Minnesota and up starting in Minnesota. So you have a couple of the, you know, it's to a, to a, will be a reclamation project. The question is, will he be good?
Where's he going to land? Is he going to be a starter wherever he goes? The Kyler Murray to me is fascinating, because I think it might have been last year where I said, I just feel like he's going to end up on the jets. And I don't think that's a bad thing, because I do think Kyler Murray is better than any
other quarterback who was going to be coming out in the draft aside from Fernando Mendoza. Maybe the dolphins, but it feels like Malik Willis is the front runner there in Miami. But if I got Kyler Murray now, do I want him in a big media market, not necessarily? He didn't put himself out there. I don't know how approachable he is, does he, does he want to do interviews, does he want
to be the face of the franchise?
But then you have that, that negative, that cloud that's always going to be hanging over
him. I don't know if he wants to be great. I think he's so talented, he can be great, but I don't know if he wants to be consistently great or better than that, a leader, a, a, a whole of favor.
βI don't know if he wants to do that, and that's what would make me take pause.β
Do I think he has the talent? Yes. But he's always had the talent. I just don't know if he has motivation. And when they have to put something in your contract that says you got a study, man, that,
that blinking light is not going off anytime soon, and that's what would make me nervous. I don't know if he wants to study, he wants to be the first guy in the last guy out. And I know it sounds like a clichΓ©, but for him, it, it shouldn't be a clichΓ©. You got to shake this reputation, and if not, then go play baseball. But he's had so much talent that in high school, if you look at his high school video,
it's not fair. Even in college, he was a lecturer. But when you get to the pros, I don't care how good you are, I don't care what position
βyou're playing, you have to then put in the time, put in the work, because now you'reβ
playing against equals. And for Kyla Murray, I would certainly kick the tires on him. If I'm the judge, he's not going to cost me a lot, or if I'm Minnesota, he's not going to cost me a lot, but can he give me an upgrade? And I would say yes, but you have to have that meeting with him, where you say, and you
have to look him in the eye as I once did. And you just have to ask him, tell me how you're going to lead this, too. Tell me why we shouldn't believe anything that we heard with Arizona. And then let him tell you, I believe it can show you, but I need him to tell, I need to hear it.
I need him to actually believe the words he's telling me, not a Johnny Mansel combine interview, where he's going to be, what do you need, yeah, and then I'll ask him about his wife, and then what's his wife and a Mary, yeah, yeah, I'll ask him about Mary, they're going to love this, Kyla Murray, I just want to know, do you want to be great, are you willing to put in the time?
And Daniel Jones, you've got a one year deal that you're going to have to prove yourself
again, you've got 37 million dollars, which is kind of where I see him anyone, I think
he's in that, you know, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, three years, 100 million, but coming off the Achilles, somebody wants to come in and pay a little bit more. But then the colds, they got rid of Anthony Richardson, so you, you don't have real negotiating power, I don't think, with Daniel Jones. If he decides he wants to go someplace else, somebody gives him a better offer, you don't
want to match it, and then the colds are back to square one. But the Kyla Murray situation, I think bears watching, we'll talk to Florio about this.
And, you know, you're going to have pro-days coming up, you're going to get a...
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Well, I have a couple of ways to word this one, I'm not sure which one, one of them feels too mean, but the basic idea is, is Kyler-Maria better quarterback than we think. Okay.
βSo I could say, is Kyler-Maria better quarterback than we think?β
Yes or no? Very easy. The way I originally worded it was Kyler-Maria's a bad quarterback, well, perception or reality. A bad.
I can't say he's a bad quarterback. I think he's got the talent to be very good. So I don't, but what is the perception of him? The perception of him is he's not very good, isn't it? I think the perception is he doesn't put in the time.
He's not a leader. Maybe he doesn't care. I can't think he Richardson, you might say, now he's a bad quarterback. But he does have talent, but Kyler-Maria, there is proof of concept here. Like, all right, he's gone out and thrown for almost 4,000 yards a couple of times.
There's a lot of team, Pittsburgh Steelers would take those numbers, right now. The jets would take it, I mean, there's quite a dolphins would take it, quite a few teams
that would take those numbers, the problem is the name attached to those numbers.
So I wouldn't be mean-spirited saying it's a bad quarterback. Right. What was the other way you worded it? It's Kyler-Maria a better quarterback than we think.
βOr maybe you could say what kind of quarterback is Kyler-Maria?β
Is he very good, good, average, stay away? Yeah, poem. Is this a shared blame situation where the Arizona Cardinals, they can take down a lot of people, they've disappointed a lot, and it's almost like the jets and the Cardinals are the places.
Well, quarterbacks don't really want to go, and I'm wondering if Kyler-Maria will get the same treatment Sam Darnold got when he left it, it's partially the fault of the team. Well, it took a while before Sam proved that it was the jets who were the problem. And Kyler was better with a bad team like Arizona than Sam was with a bad team like the jets.
So Kyler-Maria is talented enough to win games. I think Sam Darnold was brought in, he was drafted because he was the safe choice. He's not a difference maker where he's going to win the games single-handedly like Kyler-Maria has shown that he can, yes, she can. He also had to kind of prove that the jets and the panthers were the problem.
Yeah. Yeah. 49ers didn't really get a shot, Vikings, he did, but he did well there. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know how you freeze that with Kyler-Maria because it feels like he has proven
that he can be very good. And yes, it is a franchise that is guaranteed to disappoint. But okay, Arizona got a great tight end. Tray McBrunch. They got Marvin Harrison, Jr., the third that everybody thought this is a generational talent.
And it's been a slow build. So they did surround him with talent. Yes, Eden.
βWhat if I said Kyler-Maria's biggest problem is perception or reality?β
So I feel like he has a big perception problem. All right.
For a guy you never see him, you never hear anything, but the little bits that he did
bubble up, they're like, man, that's not great. Kyler-Maria's problem is Kyler-Maria, in my opinion, because it goes back to those who were extremely talented, and I was point out, Jordan had all this talent, but he worked so hard when he got to the NBA, Tiger had all this talent. But when he got to the PGA tour, he worked tirelessly, he worked harder than anybody
Did.
You know, you, Jumarkis Russell had incredible talent.
He just, he's always had incredible talent.
He's didn't want to work. And that happens with these players. That it's so easy for you. You are the star. You're the star there in high school star in college.
And now you're going to be the number one overall pick. Hey, I could have played baseball if I wanted to. Hey, I'm going to do, and I'll go back to Michael Vick, and that's the cautionary tale.
βAnd I think I even told Mike, when I've had him on before, he should talk to Kyler-Mariaβ
because it's very similar. You know, Michael Vick didn't put in the time. He was just an elite athlete that you feel like I don't have to until you do.
And I'll care who it is, you do, and Kyler is sort of like, maybe a right-handed Michael
Vick. Not as explosive, you know, straight ahead speed, I don't think, but quickness. And he's completing 67, 68, 69% of his passes. Like those aren't pedestrian, and you're throwing for 25, 26, 27 touchdowns. You're throwing for 38, 30, 900 yards.
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βWhere do you want to start, which situation peaks your interest the most, Mike?β
Well, you already talked about the man in the moment, Col. Murray, he'll be released next
week, and the key here is, Dan, the Cardinals 0.36.8 million fully guaranteed for 26.
He can do what Russell Wilson did two years ago, take the minimum on a one-year deal, stick his former team with the balance, because nobody's going to pay him more than 36.8 million for 20.26, and you go to a team at a low cost, that team saves millions in cash and potential cap space to put a good team around you, so that in and of itself makes him desirable because he can sign for 1.3 million.
In fact, I would suggest if he's got multiple suitors, his position should be, "I want a no trade clause, and I want to know tag clause. I want a true one-year arrangement, and I go wherever I want next year, and you don't get into this Daniel Jones situation where you get the transition tag. You are a true for agent a year from now, if you have the kind of year that sets you up
for a big beta." Okay, if I look at his first three years in Arizona, those are respectable numbers, and I think he had another season that he threw for what 3800 yards as well. So there's what four years out of six years with Kyler Murray, I mean, that's a good sample size.
I just don't know what the perception is around the league with him, either as a football player, or as it everything attached to that football player. Well, Dan, I think the relationship with Arizona went off the rails after his third season, and it was time for him to get a new contract.
βThe worst thing the Cardinals could have done was jam that stupid ass study clause.β
Can I say stupid ass? I just said it twice. You did it twice. I'm not sure. Because as I said earlier today, on PFT Live, the moment that thought enters your brain,
if you're Michael Bidwell, the owner of the Cardinals, the moment you actually say it out loud and put it in a writing, that's when they should have traded him. If you have those kinds of misgivings about a guy that you've had three years with, and if you think he doesn't work hard enough to the point where you're willing to put it in writing, they just got an obligation to put in 20 hours a week of study.
That's when you sell high. That's when you trade him to another team. Look where they are four years later. What have they done in the four years since then? Nothing.
We've gotten so much more if they had flipped Calamary once they realized we've got concerns about him, but they felt compelled to pay him. They felt compelled to justify using the first overall pick on him. And here's where they are, not just letting him walk away for nothing.
Letting him walk away and owing him, net 35.5 million if he does a one year deal for the
veteran minimum. I would still take a chance on him if I'm Minnesota Atlanta, putting indoors, and I would take a chance on him like Dan last year as we're getting close to the trade deadline. I was casting a wide net to see which players who we might not be thinking of could be available in trade.
At the time it was obvious something odd was going on between the Cardinals in Calamary. He hadn't played in several weeks, and I poked around whether or not he could be traded. Now there were too many moving parts, the contract would have to be addressed too much needed to be done in a short time frame for a trade to happen. But I was told at the time there were two teams you wanted to play for.
The Raiders because they had chip Kelly, well, that ship has sailed and the Vikings because
βof Kevin O'Connell, and where are the Vikings right now?β
They've got JJ McCarthy, they're clearly looking for anyone and everyone that potentially could come in and bolster that depth chart a year after they made the bad decision of not having an established veteran on the roster.
Here's Kyler Murray for 1.3 million.
How could they say no to that unless Kevin O'Connell is in the camp and there's a camp out there of coaches who just don't want a guy who's south of six, two.
No matter who it is, I don't want a short quarterback.
There's going to be coaches like that, but you mentioned the Falcons, Kevin Staphanski's
already had short quarterback in Cleveland and Dylan Gabriel.
βI think the wildcard in Atlanta is whether or not six-foot five-inch Matt Ryan, the presidentβ
of football operations, says no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We can't have a guy who's under six feet tall playing quarterback. InstaFanskiad Baker may feel as well, in Cleveland. Right. Two would got a chance to be a starter next year.
It depends on where the other Domino's fall. I love the quarterback, Kerasel. The coaching Kerasel has to come to a complete stop. We know where all the head coaches are. We know their coordinators are, and now we can start trying to figure out where these
quarterbacks are going to land. And there's a chance somebody's going to talk themselves into a face to pon the good things he did with the Miami Dolphins. He wasn't horrible. He did enough to get them to give him a market value contract, even though that was ridiculous
that they paid him when they did. They weren't bidding against anyone but themselves. He was under contract for another year.
Sure, let's give him 55 million a year.
That was a huge mistake. That was almost a disson Watson level mistake by the Miami Dolphins. But if you get him in the right circumstances, you put him in the right offense. He can make things happen. The problem for him is that when the play that's there or the play that's called isn't
there, things kind of short circuit. But he's not a long Kirk Cousins falls into that camp. There are plenty of quarterbacks who do a fine job at the NFL level who aren't capable of the Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, make magic when things go sideways. So there will be someone who will talk themselves into the possibility of giving an opportunity
and he's going to be in that same boat as Kyler, 1.3 million on a one-year deal because the Dolphins own 54 million fully guaranteed this year. Mike Floria, pro football talk live, co-host, the transition tag with Daniel Jones that you've allowed Anthony Richardson to seek a trade someplace else. You've kind of taken away your leverage here a little bit.
I would think with Daniel Jones having show if you're Indianapolis.
βWell, I think the co-hosts are content to see what a team will offer him on a long-termβ
deal. Given that he's still recovering from attorney Kelly's tendon, that happened less than three months ago.
And for him, he's got a great bird in the hand here, 37.8 million.
All he's got to do is sign his name to the offer and he gets it with no exceptions, no limitations. I have to pass a physical lip by this day to say, you know, sometimes you'll see contracts that have those in there when you got a guy coming off his serious injury. He gets 37.
8. Last year, he got 14. It's been a good year for Daniel Jones. And now let's just see if someone offers him the kind of long-term contract that he would accept and then the cults would have the opportunity to match it.
And I don't know that anyone's going to do it. But worst case scenario for Jones, well, the worst case scenario is the cults rescind the transition tender. And then he's a free agent after all the money has flowed. But if he just plays under the transition tag this year, that's 37.8 for a guy that we
thought when the giants cut him his days of making big money in the NFL were over. We do this every year. I caution teams every year. Look at what happens on Saturdays, not what happens on a Thursday or Friday in Indian apolis at the combat.
We fall in love with these moments here, these players here.
βAnd I still go back to, what did you do in an actual game situation?β
But can you see, can you give me a couple of names since you were there where you go, what they did is going to elevate their draft status and rightfully so? I mean, you look at what Sunny Styles, the Ohio State Linebacker did, just off the charts across the boards. We've got the Arkansas quarterback who had eye popping numbers and he's 64 to 25.
Those are things that can help, but you're right, Dan. We have seen what a guy does when it's 11 on 11. But does it mean you pause though, Mike, when you go, look at all of that talent that guy has. And then you go, well, what did he do on Saturdays?
How did Sunny Styles not wreak havoc where we go, oh my God, he's the next Mike of Parsons. All right, and that's a great question. Well, you've got a bunch of, you've got a bunch of other great defenders. Maybe the other guys were getting to the ball before he quit.
I don't know. But Dan, you know, this is where I think bad teams, dysfunctional teams get infatuated by measurals, by analytics, by numbers. And they lose sight of the eye ball test as it relates to what the guy does on the field. Remember Vernon Goldston, he was the ass russia from Ohio State and he ended up going
out a lot higher than he should have because he had all the measurables. But what happens when you get in a game? What do you do to make a difference when it's time to go out there and use those skills in a very different setting?
The good teams get it.
The good teams know it's just one piece of a bigger puzzle. And sometimes the bad teams put too much emphasis on the wrong things, whether it's what a guy does in underwear, in Indianapolis or sometimes they put too much emphasis on what a guy does in college because you look at what he did in this game against a max school. And you get infatuated by that and you overlook what he did when it was time to go play
one of the top schools if he didn't have a big day that day. So it's complicated and we see that certain teams have figured it out and certain teams haven't. The market form the leak willus is what?
Well, GM told me last week that the thinking is between 20 to 25 million dollars on a two or
three year. The shorter term is better from a leak willus because it goes somewhere and he plays for a full season like he did when he got opportunities the last two years with the packers. Then he'll be in line to get paid a much bigger salary.
βI think there's two teams to watch who are going to be the ultimate litmus test here.β
The dolphins in the cardinals because you've got two guys from Green Bay the past two years who are now calling the shots in Miami and John Erick Sullivan and Jeff Haffley. They know Malik Willus not just when we see him play, they know him all the time. They know him in the meeting room. They know him on the practice field.
They know what he can do if they're not in on Malik Willus, that's a red flag for anyone else who doesn't know him.
And with the cardinals, Matt LaFlor, the head coach of the packers, his brother Mike is the
head coach of the cardinals now. I'd like to think that Matt would say to Mike, hey man, I know you need a quarterback. This may be a guy that you want to take a look at because I think he can do it all season long. Because when he played the last two years, the numbers 134 plus passer rating averaging
more than 10 yards per attempt 75% plus completion percentage. The guy has been very good, but as I was cautious in the last week, you got to understand why he wasn't very good in 10 to see as part of the overall picture. The Titan's game away for a seventh round picked in. You make great points there.
Before I let you go, the Drew Dalman situation with the bears. Here's a high end center who just got paid last year. He's 27. He walks in. He says I'm retiring.
Do we know anything more about this? Well, you know, when I thought about the situation last night, and the bears could try
to seek 4 million back from him because he got a 6 million dollar signing bonus on a
three year deal. Technically, he hasn't earned that 4 million in the collective bargaining agreement. Let's the bears go get it if they choose to. And I thought last night, when you look at what he did on the first year of his contract, he had a career season played every snap in the regular season, started 19 games, if we
include the playoffs pro baller, you know, he may be looking for an adjustment in the bears said, no, and this is part of a broader leverage play. And I poked around a little on that, my understanding is, that's not the case. He's just done. And nobody knows their body better than the players, 5 years of wear and tear.
And you know, I say this all the time with anyone. Remember, I want to say Davis retired during a game, like the moment that you're no longer willing to go out on the field and subject yourself to that physical toll, the risk that happens on every snap, the moment you're not willing to do it, then you shouldn't. And I respect it whenever a guy decides he's had enough.
And by all indications, Drew Dalman decided he'd add enough. Vante Davis retiring at halftime, though. That feels like a 30 for 30, Mike. Oh, it was a hell of a story when it happened. But again, the moment that you don't want to do it for whatever reason, it takes so much to
go out there and subject yourself to that.
βAnd I think if you're out there and you don't want to be, you're just asking for an injury,β
you're asking for a bad outcome. You've got to be all in to survive, not just thrive, but survive in the NFL. What's the combine's future? Well, fortunately, guys like Jerry Jones have realized the prospect of making it a traveling road show, which was a hot topic five or six years ago.
That's died down because we already see coaches not go. If this thing was less convenient that it is an Indianapolis and it's perfect an Indian apolis, everything is close together. The city isn't overrun by fans. The coaches, the scouts, they can get to where they need to be quickly. If it's in LA or something like that, and you've got to drive two hours here and two hours
that you'll have fewer coaches go. I think what happened, Dan, a decade or so ago, it felt like the combine was on a trajectory to become a massive offseason tent pole for the NFL. I think we've got to the point where it kind of is what it is. You know, last year on the Saturday for the quarterback receiver and running back workouts,
average 484,000 viewers, but that's nothing as relates to what the NFL usually does.
βSo I think they recognize it for what it is.β
It started as a way to get everybody together so you could do medical examination of all
The players in one spot so you don't have to drag them all over the country a...
and poked and prodded here and there.
βI think people recognize it for what it isn't, and they recognize it for what it is.β
And I think it's going to stay an Indianapolis. Mike Florio's latest novel Big Shield available, of course, it's not about the NFL. It's on Amazon. Oh, it is. Oh, it is about the NFL.
It's been seven months. What the hell? I mean, you're not worried. You're not worried. You're not worried.
Straight on. Statute of limitations.
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This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpride became the victim of a random crime. "He pulls the gun, tells me to lie down on the ground." He identified Termine Hudson as the perpetrator. Termine was sentenced to 99 years.
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to flip people off, he gave a double bird yesterday, and we're still feeling those repercussions.
"Yes, Martin.
"I've learned from my mistakes.
It won't happen again."
βOr, or Mario says something to me that just, "You're guaranteed that you will not flipβ
off this audience again." "I'm going to try my hardest, guys." "But as you said, all of those people who have been mean to me about my small hands, and don't you think it's ironic that I flip them off with my small hands?" I go, "No, I don't think it's ironic at all.
I think it's wrong. There's a full circle on me." "Yes, you can't. It's not the circle of life. Just don't do that again."
Flip people off. Scotty Sheffler. Glory, macaroni. The PGA tours elite take on Bay Hill, it's the Arnold Palmer Invitation, presented by MasterCard, Saturday and Sunday, 230 Eastern on NBC, and Peacock. Coming up, we'll play the reclamation game, which quarterback, who is going to be this
year's Sam Darnled? We'll have that. We'll actually have a draft. Is that what you want to do that we'll do a snake draft? "Yeah, quick.
Two rounds. Snake draft." Eight seven, seven, three D.P. show operator Tyler sitting by, he'll take your phone calls.
Our Kyler Murray poll questions today kind of dominated the first two hours.
What are we going to go with the final hour of the program, Seaton? "Well, I have a few other options here from topics we haven't really got to. One off of Todd's topic of a more legit TGL or LIV." "Oh, wow." "Well, I would say live his more legitimate than TGL."
"Is it, though?" "Yeah, because now they're playing four rounds. I don't know if they're doing the music anymore. I do our shorts." "Yeah, I don't know.
I think they can still wear shorts.
βBut I played at a country club where you have to wear long pants every single time youβ
play. No matter what the temperature is, it'd be 95 and you got to wear long pants. I don't play it very often, in fact, I get invited, but I don't want to play 'cause golf's hard enough. I don't want to be out there 95 degree weather with my long pants on.
I need to show these legs, you know, that's going to be a distraction to the people that I'm playing with. They focus on that instead of their golf game. Yes, Todd. "To a certain extent, it's already a snooty sport.
You've got to add, you've got to wear pants even if it's 100 degrees on top of that. We get it, you're better than everyone else that's golf." Also, when you go into the grill area, you have to take off your hat, you have to have you sure tail tucked in.
Now, there are golf courses in America where you can basically not wear anything.
It's all men's club and they don't care what you wear and don't wear. Although, I don't think I want to play golf where I'm not wearing anything. Yes, yes. But the kiss of death, if you ever go to a golf course and see someone walking out with jeans on, that may be worse than anything.
You cannot wear jeans while golfing. No, you can't. You cannot. No. No.
Well, I've seen it before, cut offs, yeah, certain golf courses, but they bail, invitation, the Arnold Palmer is coming up this week on NBC and peacock, which is where you can find this program, download the app if you haven't done so. The poll question for the final hour, see you tell me and I forgot. Well, you kind of poo-pooed the live versus TGL, I'll put that up there and I'm just
to see. We also had another topic this morning that we haven't really gotten around to, but it was controversial. The donut should be a breakfast food or dessert. It's breakfast.
Why? You just get something quick. You start your morning. You'd be a little energy and you're on your way. It could not just be sort of universally loved throughout the day, why is that why is
the donut a breakfast food? It's more desserty than anything else you could think of. Well, you don't have dessert at lunch and if you're going to have dessert dessert at dinner, it's not going to be a donut. Make dessert lunch again?
Is that what? I would say your donut is your breakfast. It's just something quick. You don't have to have somebody whip up eggs and bacon. Just like grab a donut and get what, Todd?
I don't it should not be breakfast. I understand you know, you grab it and you think of dunk in or whatever and you get your coffee, whatever. But if a donut was shaped like a piece of chocolate cake, none of us would consider, "Oh, what do you have in breakfast cake?"
So you're saying the shape of the donut is the reason why we don't embrace it as this.
βI think a lot of people see a donut and we're so used to being like a type of maybeβ
a breakfast thing. But if the donut was shaped more like a dessert or it's made out of the same kind of ingredients as desserts, so it's kind of insane because it's shaped like a circle with a whole missing, all of a sudden it's a breakfast, but if it was shaped like a cake, it'd be like, "What do you even cake for breakfast for?"
Even if it was made out of a steamed, exact ingredients, but not shaped like a circle. Slow down, take a look at it. Arguably, the best rant I've ever had on this show. Full support. Take a breath.
Take a guess, Paul.
A couple of things.
βIf we were putting a donut in a lane, are they a breakfast item or a treat?β
I would say they're a breakfast item.
I look back at the history of donuts, which I always have on my screen at the ready.
It was more of a daytime treat to have with coffee and tea than a breakfast item. Back when it was originated. Yeah, but you're having coffee and tea in the morning that could be breakfast. Early donuts were an all day treat. I'm not a donut, or like I'm not big on.
We had donuts brought in yesterday, I'm like, "Eh, you know?" Yes, I don't think you're going to the right donut. I still like if there's a crispy cream, there are some donut shops that are like, "They're going to take that real seriously." More as donuts and Apple food or donuts is like 50 different types of donuts in some
of these places. I remember when crispy cream opened up a store and people went crazy. And I went, "What are you doing?" There are lines like miles long waiting to get into crispy cream to get a box of donuts. I know.
Crazy. But sign they didn't say next to crispy cream, "Come join us for breakfast and have some donuts." I'm pretty sure they don't say, "We're open, 6 to 10 a.m. for breakfast." Here's the donuts.
It's just crispy cream donuts. I got it. You fired up today, man. With your donuts. Yeah, I'm not big on.
But if I'm going to grab, I have half a one, but then it drives poorly crazy because if I cut it in half, and then it'll be like, "Just take the whole thing. Take it with you." And I go, "I don't want the whole thing, then I'll eat the whole thing." Any other questions, any other poll questions, any other thoughts before we get, "Oh,
I mentioned this yesterday. I come in and I say to Paul, I said, "Hey, I don't know if you know Charles Barkley's got an interesting job during March Madness." So I don't tell Paul, go through the entire show and Paul sends me an email and he goes, "Hey, by the way, Charles Barkley's going to be working with Dick by town.
He's going to be doing one of the first four games on true TV." And I go, "Damn it, I was going to tell you that he was going to do this with Dick EV." And Brian Anderson, all right? So Charles is going to do a game with Dick EV.
And that'll be great. It'll be awesome, baby. True TV. That'll be that opening Tuesday of the NCAA tournament. Yes, tell.
Which is interesting because Dick, my tell always says everything is awesome, and Barkley always
says everything is terrible, according to Frank Kelley and those impression. So you've got awesome and terrible the dichotomy is passing there. All right. So Charles got a fun gig there. That'll be interesting here and do a game.
And let me see, is there anything else that needs to be mentioned and we'll play the reclamation project game? So the idea is to choose the quarterback who will have the most success with the team that didn't draft him heading into next season, okay? So that's a player who has already improved, but can still have more of an upward trajectory.
Now, Daniel Jones said to be a free agent or well-ish.
βBut I think he-- I'm not going to put him in the game, okay?β
Malik Willis, I'll put him in the game, Kyla Murray and Tua, they'll be in the game. So Kyla Murray, Malik Willis, see, Matt Jones isn't available, but he could be, he could be. We'll put him in. So Anthony Richardson, Davis Mills, Spencer Rattler, Tanner McKee, who was in Bad News Bears,
I think. No. No, he wasn't. Sounds like-- Not the same time.
Not exactly an NFL quarter. Joe Milton? I know he's playing. See? Joe Milton.
I'm literally looking at Joe Milton right now to see where is he going to fall in this, because I am taking him first. Okay. All righty. That's my guy.
How about we use arm length, that'll be who goes first here.
Yes, Paul. His Aaron Rogers available in this draft. Is he a free agent? Yes, I think. I think he would be in this draft.
Okay. All right. See, reclamation project worthy though. I mean, yeah, I don't know if I'm going-- I'm going to-- I'm going to rule no. I'm going to say no that he is not a reclamation project.
These other ones are. He's a squeeze one more year out of them, Paul. Yeah, that's all. That's just a farewell tour. Kyla Murray, Malik Willis, Mac Jones, two Anthony Richardson, Davis, Mill, Spencer, Ratler,
βTanner McKee, and he's the Eagles back up quarterback, and Joe Milton, all right?β
We have to throw another one in there because there's five of us, and we're going to have so Kenny Pickett will leverage trade lands and act Wilson, so it's a two round draft. These shortest arms, Todd-- oh, it's-- it's probably your fault.
Yeah, Paul, you go first.
Man, I don't think they're going to let Mac Jones go.
I have to go with Malik Willis as my number one draft. All right. Next on the list would be-- Let us see. Let us see.
Let me see. I am taking Joseph Joe, Milton, because I love that dude. That brings us to the massively long-armed fritzing. I'm going to take trade lands. Yeah.
βI think there's still something about him that we haven't heard the last of trade lands,β
and his abilities on the center. Yes, Paul. His Russell Wilson on the board? If you want to put him on the board. Okay, just check it.
You can get Zach Wilson, not Russell. Yeah. Who would you rather have? Better Wilson.
I'm going to take Kyler Murray, Jr. this third.
Now, the incredibly long-armed Marvin Prince. Zach Wilson. Then it comes back to me. I am going to go with two a tongue of ILO. Next up, Todd.
If it's a snake draft, it doesn't Marvin pick twice. Oh. Oops. Yeah, so sorry, Dan. You have to give that pick back.
Okay. I'll give that pick back, Marvin. Oh, no. You can keep yours. Oh, you don't want to.
Quite alright. Wow. Okay. I'm going to go Spencer Rattler. Okay.
Todd. I'm going to grab Anthony Richardson. Okay. Paul. I'm going to go with Cardinal.
Oh, no. It's Satan. I'm going to go with Cardinal. Okay. I'll take Max Jones.
Okay.
βWe don't know if he's going to be available.β
We don't know if he's available. But I'm that someone's going to-- You're betting on him. You're betting on him. Paul.
I'm going to go with Cardinal. Mention with the cheese. Okay. Anybody interesting who didn't get selected. Davis Mills is pretty good.
Will love this. Yeah. Will love this. Can he pick it? Sam Hall.
Oh. Tanner McKee. No, they took Tanner McKee. No one did. Former Stanford quarterback.
I mean, there's enough for one more round. No, no, no. I'm good. Who is going to be this year's Sam Darnold? Who is going?
My money is on none of them. Well, you'd have to win the Super Bowl. Yeah. Right. Exactly.
Yeah. And maybe that's not fair to say who's going to be this year's Sam Darnold because any of these guys going to be a Super Bowl winning quarterback in the answer would be. No. Hey.
This year's Indiana. They did well. Yeah. Indiana was this year's Indiana. Yeah.
They crushed. Sam Darnold's going to be this year's Sam Darnold. Yes, Marvin. I was only going off of Sam Darnold with the Vikings. Like, you know, he'll be a Pro Bowl player.
Have a really good year. I wasn't thinking about winning the Super Bowl. Because if that's the case, I didn't want any part of this draft. Yeah. But that's the thing.
You can't say it's the Sam Darnold Award because Sam won a Super Bowl. If this was Sam Darnold in Minnesota, or Baker Mayfield in Tampa, then that would be different. But yeah, the Super Bowl attachment there. That's pretty lofty goal. Ready for a different take on Formula One.
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