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Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. Well, it was eight days after the anniversary of Will Chamberlain's 100 points in a game that nobody saw on TV. There were eyewitnesses and radio witnesses.

And last night with Bamm out of bioscoring 83, I couldn't find the game. And I think late in the game. Peacock did bring that game in so you could see the final seconds. But Bamm out of bioscores 83. And you know, it's, I'm not surprised somebody has scored that many points.

Because we've brought it up numerous times. Somebody's going to get there with the volume of threes. Somebody's going to get there. And we've had a couple of players getting over 70.

If you said, hey, who's the guy who's going to break the record?

I would have said, no, I would say Kobe's record. Will's is not going to be broken probably in our lifetime. And another lifetime. I would have thought Devon Booker, maybe you would have Luca. I mean, you got to have high volume guys.

You got to have guys who can shoot threes. But Bamm, an underrated superstar. His previous high was 43. And I think at 41 and half time. But towards the end, they let him shoot.

He had a lot of threes. He took 22 threes. And he's not a good shooter. But went to the free throw line. And ended up with 83.

Here's the call when he surpassed Kobe Bryant's 81 points last night. And quickly in the past. He's got space. Head down, spins. Put it up.

And Bamm's going to the line again. Bamm out of bio is a complete monster.

And really get the ball into Bamm's hand the right way.

Only will chamber. It has more points in an NBA game. In association history than Bamm out of bio, who has 82. That's Jason Jackson with the call.

He'll join us next hour about the honor of calling the second highest individual scoring performance in league history.

So 83. He went 20 to 43 from the floor. He shot 22 threes. He made seven. But go into the free throw line.

That's an all time record. 36 of 43. Will had 28 made free throws. I think he was 28 of 32. But you know, you're looking at that many free throws.

And you throw in 20 some field goals. You're going to put up a big number there. Dwight Howard had the previous free throw attempts record at 39. And that was back in 2012 and also 2013.

Congrats.

Pretty incredible night.

You're playing against the wizards, which that helps.

But towards the end, it felt like maybe the strategy was.

Let's just let him go for the record. And that's exactly what his coach did. The wizards were trying to foul other people to keep him away from getting the record against them. But bam out of bio. Now, I don't know if because we didn't get to see it. Now, we saw highlights.

But, you know, wills was that he really score 100. That was in Hershey, Pennsylvania back in what 1962. And no video. There's pictures. But we're like.

And I've said this before numerous times. We really don't. Welcome. Willed's numbers. Like Baybrew, we do will averaged 50 points in a season.

We're like, yeah, but who was he playing against?

Well, we can say that about Baybrew too in some regards.

But we don't. We're like, yeah, the Bayb. But with will, it's like these numbers don't really matter. They're like, well, they didn't, you know, those aren't real. You didn't play against real guys.

Check his numbers when he played against Bill Russell.

I think he had 55 rebounds in one game against him.

Yes, more, but you could say that about ban. He's playing against the wizards. Right. They don't really count. Oh, yeah.

And then you go back to Kobe's 81. And Kobe did that on game in January. And but he said, you know, we were down big at halftime. And so we had to stay in the game. You know, that's the thing.

Will, I think, one by a, what, one, 69 to one 37 or something like there, there was a blowout there. And even last night with Bam out of bio, you know, you're winning by 25 points. But Kobe said, hey, I had to stay in there. In fact, let's go back to, do we have that Marvin?

Do we have Kobe yet? What Marvin? We got him. Okay. Now, you did both of these.

But if I said, you could only have one on your resume. You could get the good 81 or you could get the 60 in your last game. You have to pick between those two. You'll only get one. Oh, man.

Uh, I probably go with the 81 in real life. One name out of making the playoff. That year. So we needed literally needed every single game to get into the postseason. So if we had dropped that one, I think we would have been.

I've been in a series, Jeffrey, you've missed it a playoff that year. So I'll go with the 81. Reggie Miller, and I got into a heated discussion. Like he kept saying, you're going to end your career with 60 in any put exclamation points on his text message. And I said, but 81 exclamation points.

That's. Come on. 81. And Reggie, there's no 60 on your last game. I'm just, I'm enjoying the safety.

You have to actually have that to be that pretty cool.

So that's Kobe after his 81 point performance. Reggie and I still argue about that. Because I'm like, man, I got to. Now that BAM is surpassed Kobe, then I might go, well, alright, I don't take 60 in my final regular season game. Final game that I ever played.

Alright, we'll come up with a poll question. Play the day, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming. The max Crosby trade reversed. And I don't think I can overstate how devastating I think this is for the Raiders.

They were going to get two first round draft picks.

One this year, one next year. Plus their philosophy and free agency probably was, you know, banking on the fact they were getting rid of Max Crosby and his contract. And going to the Ravens, so they were had a different philosophy here. Who were they were going after? How much money they were going to spend?

But the Raven said, hey, didn't pass our physical. And we're sending him back. This has happened before. Now it's happened in other sports. Member Carlos Corea with the Metz Mark Williams, the Hornets.

He was going to go to the Lakers. But in the Ravens have done this before. Now these weren't big names. Ryan Grant in 2018 failed a physical 2020. Michael Brokers had a agreement with the Ravens, but they were concerned about his left ankle.

And that deal fell through as well. I'm just surprised that the Ravens said, oh, you know, a pun further examination. Maybe there's long term damage in that knee because it was a torn miniscus. And then they said, because it's going to take time for that to heal. That was what was surprising.

Now I'm sure the Raiders doctor said, you know, he's good to go. And then you trade him. And then the Ravens doctor said, no, we don't like looks like there's more damage. There's more damage in there.

Now the Ravens could be in the market for tray Hendrickson.

Now what do they do?

And then the Raiders, are you going to get dollar for dollar from Max Crosby now?

If he's damaged goods? I mean, this is devastating, I think, for the Raiders.

Because Max Crosby is making over 30 million dollars for this year and next year.

Can you trade him? But what are you going to get in return? And I think that's the interesting part of this. That if he's viewed his damaged goods, then you're not going to get two first round draft picks. But Max Crosby headed back to the Raiders, yes, Pauli.

Well, right on Q Dan. From Adam Shepter moments ago, the Ravens and tray Hendrickson reached an agreement on a four year 112 million dollar contract. And just came through men to go from Adam Shepter. Yeah, that's a pivot.

Yeah, I thought this was going to happen. Diana Rasseini, who's covering the NFL for the athletics, she'll join us a little later on. Yeah, that one's devastating for the Raiders. Because it felt like, okay, we can move on.

Max can go play for a team that can compete for a Super Bowl. We're not ready. We got a couple more years here. We can get our center. We got men doze up. Get a couple more offensive linemen.

Get a couple of wide receivers. We can be respectable this year. But now you have the Max Crosby.

Now, I have to, you know, probably walk back my words of the Raiders tanking.

If it's true that, you know, this knee injury was far more serious than what we're leading on. But Max Crosby did have surgery. I think he knew he had to have surgery. But it's a torn miniscus. You can play through that.

He can. But that's where you had this falling out between him and the Raiders front office. Because he wanted to play those last two games. And then it felt like we're going to sit you down. Because the last thing we want to do was win another game.

Now, looking at that knee. And I don't know how many knee surgeries he's had. But if they're saying that, you know, could be long-term damage in there. Then it doesn't sound right. But, you know, the ravens have every right to be able to do it.

It's like, yeah, we're bringing him in. And that changed. Look at free agency. It felt like a lot of dominoes fell after Max Crosby went to the ravens. Yeah, Paul.

I'd really love to know the timeline of this. Did the ravens?

When did they know they were going to move on from Crosby?

And when did they kick the tires on Hendrickson? Did they think maybe a buyer's or more situation where? Oh, we could Hendrickson for the same price and not give up draft picks. I'm curious how the timeline played out in the past 24 hours with all that. Oh, I understand what the ravens did makes more sense.

Knowing the ravens with their draft picks. They don't give up draft picks. Certainly one in the top 15. And you're going to get tray Hendrickson. Okay, he's not Max Crosby.

And you're going to bring him in. You're going to have to pay him. And it's a longer, you know, contract there, but you get to keep your draft picks. Yes, you can. Man, that is a tough situation for Max Crosby though.

No, no. I mean, his value has plummeted. You know, because I would lowball the raiders.

Now I give you a first and maybe I give you a third or something.

If that, and I don't know if the cowboys, say I don't know how this works with Rashon Gary, who came over from Green Bay to Dallas. Now it's not official yet. Could they then say, hey, you know what? We're going to rescind that trade.

Like it's not official yet. You're just agreeing to it to a trade. And I don't think there's anything in writing. But can you until after like four o'clock today? Could they then go, hey, let's go after Max Crosby.

I mean, if I'm Dallas, I would do that. If I thought Max Crosby was going to be healthy enough, but the fact that now the ravens have put that out there, that, you know, he could have long-term durability concerns. That's the language that I was given.

Long-term durability concerns. All right. Seaton, poll question today.

What are we going to go with first hour?

I appreciate their concern on long-term, you know, they're concerned about how he's going to hold up over the long-term because that's one thing that NFL teams do if they really hold on to their players for a long time. Yeah.

Are they worrying about him in his 50s? No, it's not sure. Because we're planning a cutting him after the third year. But now it's more like a year two cut to save money. So that's a little too long-term for us.

Yeah. We're concerned about how he's going to be walking in his 50s. Long-term, you know, durability here. What is long-term is it three years, two years?

Two and a half?

Yeah. Not done that. All right.

So what's the first hour poll question?

I think you're going to find that out after the break.

Oh, okay. Alrighty. Polyfamous for the after the break poll question. Yeah. I got the the dolphin symbol from him.

Which is the looks like a dolphin jumping out of the wall. Jumping over after the break after the break. After the break. We'll jump the shark after the break. We'll get to your phone calls coming up.

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Dying to Roosini more on the Max Crosby situation. Our good buddy Ross Tucker has some thoughts on the Max Crosby situation as well. And Team USA.

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Listen to burden of guilt season 2 on the iHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jason Jackson, voice of the Miami Heat, was on the call on radio last night. By the way, before I get to Jay Jackson, there was some logic that crept in last night with the Washington Wizards broadcast. Their announcer Chris Miller suggested that the Miami Heat were prepared to take BAM out of bio-alm and out of respect for Kobe Bryant.

That didn't happen, of course. And we welcome Jason Jackson. What should we remember about this performance? I had to make the call on free throws.

I think that's the only thing that you should have to worry about, Daniel.

Lovely flat all this morning, by the way, there in Maine. 80 degrees here in South Florida with my BAM t-shirt on. I think the thing that we have to do, and I'm not sure if you're willing to do this at this stage in life damn. We have to step back sometimes. Remember, we cover sports.

It's just sports. It's fun. It was funky. It was weird. It was cool.

And then we move on. We don't want another game. So the Miami Heat of one six in a row moved out of the plane spot. That's all that really matters. The main thing is the main thing.

It's winning.

But for BAM, I think it's going to be one of the most memorable things in his life.

Because he grew up in a single wide trailer with a single mother in North Carolina dreaming about Kobe Bryant. And had a really cool moment. It's a guy who has done everything right. Who doesn't really focus on scoring, who made his craft in this league at the defender and rebounder. Who took the mantle from Alonzo morning, Dwayne Wade.

And you've done his haslam as a culture carrier for this organization. And it's been to the finals twice. It hasn't been able to stay at the mountain top just yet in those areas. And then also takes on the responsibility of being the lead force in the community for organization. That part of it all feels good.

This is one of the first, let's put air called great heat players who I have been able.

So I'll make it about me now there. I'll have been able to see from draft night to pull away through it. When I arrived here in 2004, Dwayne Wade was already a player. And the bronze James came to Miami already was a player. And so this is, it's just fun for the fan base.

Anything outside of that, it just kind of filters into this Hader mode. We didn't have social media in 2006 when Kobe went for it. He won. So I'm not sure the response probably would have had its level of in it as well. There's literally no video.

We have a sheet of paper with 100 on it for a will. I'm sure old Nick's fans are still trying to want to live that night. Let me just tell you a little bit more about the good friend Chris Miller to my good friend Chris Miller for a moment. I will feel a buster sir. I will say this.

What were you pressing full court and triple teaming the man for it in the second half of the fourth quarter?

It created, it created what probably you're not loving is the basketball purest that I know the proud son of Mason Ohio is presenting right now. Well, no, I keep telling everybody, it's still 83. Okay, it's still at the end of the day 10 years, 20 years and still 83. I did think about this. How do you think Kobe if he were still with us would have viewed that performance last night?

The way there was intentionally fouling, keeping him in the game, the games out of reach. How do you think Kobe would have viewed that performance? Kobe had a level of rinker that would have possibly finger-wagged it. But I think Kobe would have like bam and bam's game overall from a night in night out basis. So there might have been a little love there.

You know, the gold medal club from Team USA, you never know how those things go.

As I've gotten older, Dan, I will turn 53 here as winter turns to spring. I've decided that I am in search of joy all of the time, all of the time. So we're calling a game like this. Obviously, you can't anticipate on a Tuesday night against the wizards that's something unique and special is going to occur.

I say thank you.

Idris, bam out of bio and finally bam hates when you use this.

It's given me, but I don't get to say it up. So I thought I thought it out for you.

Okay, did you talk to Spolaster about his philosophy down the stretch when he realized that he had a chance to surpass Kobe?

I am on the set live at about 200 yards away when that happens damn, but it was asked of him and it was aired on Heat Live last night. And I think he gave the most beautiful answer in the sense that for that guy, for what he's meant for nearly a decade to the head coach and to the franchise. For those who don't watch Miami, he basketball every single night.

You're not going to connect with this fiber, right?

This is about a guy that took the torch from a guy who played for 20 years in Udana's Haslam and the best player in history and Duane Wade. And put the entire organization and what it means and the heat culture that makes everybody roll their eyes. All of that on his shoulders, he went to Kentucky just like the president of the organization, Fat Riley, like all of it and does a beautiful job with it. It is only, you know, he's not necessarily a big in your face, Ra Ra Barker. But the way that he goes about his craft as a world-class defender, a outstanding, if not a lead rebounder.

And a guy who's developed, you've watched it over nine seasons, developed his game into the modern big man, got to go out and knock it down from 23 feet. But when he came out of Kentucky, there was no way I would have thought that would be a three-point shooter, but has become super serviceable.

And does whatever is asked of him, I think this is the thing that's most warming about it.

He thinks about scoring least from the dribble hand off to the actual assist. He's setting up other guys offensively to score. And so it's just, I'm leaving it as what I assume is a one-off. Like, I was, you, the, okay, the huge quarter was fantastic. That was real basketball. That was just him lighting guys up. And then when he got to halftime and he already had his career high, plus it was, it was wild to where it could go. Okay. Be in the basketball purist that you are. Take yourself out of, take your Miami-D headphones off and look at that in the last five minutes of the game.

Right. Would you have a problem? Because you're the anomaly. Like you're all in, you saw history, you saw something great. The reaction I've gotten this morning is people are really upset, but I think part of that has to do with Kobe. But let's just look at the actual basketball style that was played in the last five minutes or so. Yeah. I probably, I, if I was calling it on the other side, I would have been snarky-ish with a hint of, but it's still competition.

You got to try to stop him. You know, so that's where I always get because I do get nothing.

It's a Celtic's heat game and, you know, browner, Tatum's gone nuts and they're still in and the game's gone and there's three minutes to go. I note that there are sometimes special moments and if you're gunning for something, I'm fine with that. I tend to be, but I will, I will some serious, if village of even Dale, snark will be coming out fully from my throat, no doubt. He's Jason Jackson, the voice of the Miami Heat. Greatest NBA performance you've ever witnessed, whether regular season, postseason.

Did I have to be in person? Did I have to be in person before I was at the key?

No. I will tell you, you know what, there's two of them. I'll tell you, when San Antonio closed out in 99, that was, it was not a, it was a moment more than a performance. I'll give you the performance in a moment. It because Avery knocked down that last jumper baseline. If I'm remembering that correctly, the only reason I wouldn't remember is because you and Stuart Scott would push me out of the way and I couldn't do any sports overhead. So, thank goodness for asking me to do. Thank you.

Thank you, news for giving me some time to talk about these things of allegedly covering you. Robinson. Did you see the reference coming, Dave? Thank you for that. Focus on that. They are lock it in, lock it in, help a pro.

But the best performance I've ever seen was game six, the bronze jams in Boston. You win that game or it's not, by the way, you got to win the game because it does it allow for the, the lore of him becoming a champion to even present itself in the appropriate way. But on the road, 40 plus, believe nine rebounds, handful of assists, that scowl, looking underneath the brow that forever hangs on the walls in Miami.

That thing was, that was just, it was literally like watching a lion walk the...

But that was pretty astonishing, by the way, I'm, I, that has to watching someone score that much and, and the willingness of the wizards to put that man on the line as much as they did. Again, it was, it was astonishing in a different way. And so I don't want to take anything from from BAM because BAM is giving us so much.

Is the broadcast going to the basketball whole thing?

The dunk to pass the bronze. The handle. The record. The BAM sandwich was all first of all.

Always tasty. All right. You want some pomper nickel with that one. All right. And you might want to toast it. You might want to.

Listen, and that was it. After that, but again, I will, I will admit this only to you and your illustrious audience here on peacock. The great thing about being here with you is there's literally a peacock outside my window, screaming all morning long. And then I'm on peacock with you. It's the best. But I started thinking about this and you, you've known me since I was a young young adult. I, I lean towards fun and funny. It's what I, it just, it provides me with my sustenance.

But after he passed, will bronze, I was like, okay, now you're calling stuff that might play forever. Let's just kind of, let's get it right down the middle. And it was tough because I, I've listened back and the moment for 83 happened at the free throw line anyway. So it wasn't going to provide for this full, beautiful baritone that I've, that I've, that I've cherished and presented through bourbon and cigars. All these years, it didn't, it didn't have that full moment there. Yeah, you got to love the, the BAMs, you have what's absolutely, you, oh, yeah, of course.

But you, you got cheated, you needed a jumper, you needed a slam, you needed something, not free throws, you know, when you're calling something. Let's make it about BAM. Let's not, okay, my mouth, yeah. Okay, sorry. By the way, you know what you need on the wall back there.

But he, I want you to hop on Miamiheat store.com right now for 83 dollars, you can get yourself a authentic BAM jersey now.

If all we can see when you go back there by the bar, you see it. Yeah, you already have a BAM. You already have it. Yeah. Oh, you have everything. What was I saying? Yeah, autographed.

Oh, yeah. Come on. Yeah. You know what I got for you right there? Hot BAM. You did a BAM sandwich. Yeah.

Yeah, I think it says from one score to another.

I thought it says, if you reach, I'd see it. That's what that said, right there. See, glory has vana white work out of you, by the way, see.

Thank you, Satan. By the way, that whole story about me playing again,

Stuart Scott that was supposed to be in the documentary. It didn't make it in the documentary. Who had the audacity to come up? They wanted me to tell the story and I said, no, let somebody else. And they said, oh, we're going to get Jason Jackson to tell the story.

And then it doesn't even make it. No, I don't think I was in it at all, by the way. Boo, y'all. Yeah, I'm here to share you. I'm here to boo you. All right. Yeah.

Good luck with the next game and on court. Listen, how about this in honor of BAM's number 13?

$13 tickets to box heat tomorrow night in paradise.

Where it will be 80 plus degrees and not a low of 36. Like it will enjoy there in May. Why? Why do you do this? No, no, no, no. I just July and August.

When you're crying, when you're crying. Maybe that's when I, that's when I sweat. The weight goes big and that won't happen. You get to burn the whole time. Dan comes to Miami.

So if Levittard calls, I can't. I can't get that man down here at all. That is true. That is true. But darkness remains your weakness.

I'll take it out. Oh, yeah. Hello, darkness, my old friend. It's Jason Demeth. Yeah.

It's Jay Jackson. If you're nasty. If you're nasty. Next time you scores 83, I'm going to have you back on the show. Okay.

Yeah, it's been three years. Damn. Oh, yeah. I wasn't, I wasn't counting, but I could go back on my phone. Fritz, he hit me in the during the finals in 23.

Yeah. That's what he does to have me on. That's, uh, let's all say goodbye to Jay Jackson. Jason Jackson. Hey.

Everybody's waving to you. Boo, yeah.

Peace out.

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What can you tell us today that we didn't know yesterday about this Max Crosby situation?

Well, we're still learning lots of facts as this has been really the biggest story in sports because you just don't see this a lot. And from what I gathered over the last 12 hours, we'll call it 14 hours now. Max Crosby was in Baltimore for a physical, right? The Baltimore Ravens had done their research, they've done their work on his medicals. All teams do that.

In fact, other teams that were trying to trade for Max had conversations with his surgeon.

They had conversations with the reader's doctors to basically try to get an idea of where Max's knee was at.

So Baltimore knew the exact timeline of where Max was at in terms of the return and the rehab process. And six months appears to be kind of like the timeline of when he could be a full go. And so when he went in for his physical from what I've learned, things just seemed really off in the building all day that something wasn't wasn't right. And he had his physical and the Ravens doctors looked at the MRI and then they had four or five independent doctors take a look at it as well.

Together they made the decision that this trade was not worth it based on wha...

And I think the way they view it is in the short term, Max would be fine for 27 he would have been okay.

The long term was their hang up and that was the problem and that's when they made the decision and they sat Max crossed be down in their offices and said, look, thank you for flying out here. Thank you for saying you're farewell goodbye. Not sure if we're going to, you know, we're doing the right thing here, but we believe we are and this trade is off the table. So now Max is back in the facility today.

He's under contract with the Raiders. He's doing what he does all the time, which is work out and try to get that knee ready to go.

And I think there's a good chance that Max cross be is a reader for 2027.

I just wonder if there was buyer remorse with this Diana, where the ravens don't give up draft picks. They don't draft in the top 15. Now the sudden you're giving up to maybe you realize, you know, we could get tray Hendricks in and not give up all of this. Yeah, I don't mean to be cynical about the medical status. This thing stinks. What are you talking about? You're spot on. There's 100% shading is going down right now. And the reason why I say that so firmly is because I've had so many conversations with people around football who understand where Max is at, with his knee, nothing was surprising.

And this trade wasn't really about what Max was going to be able to do for the Baltimore ravens in 2030, 2029, right? This is not 2027. So let's just say they look at this MRI and the knee is a disaster compared to the way you, you know, projected it to be because teams do do that too. I had a general manager this morning explaining to me, just going through their process of what they do. And team doctors do this. They go, okay, this is what the knee looks like. This is what we're giving it in terms of length when it will become a problem when this will bubble up.

And the Baltimore ravens had that information. And for them, they didn't feel that this knee would hold up for the long term. So I just think with the trade-hentrics and situation out there and him holding off waiting for the numbers that he was looking for.

I think the Baltimore ravens who already did a move that they don't normally do. You've got to have a certain type of philosophy and stomach to give away two first round picks for soon to be 29-year-old past Russia.

And I think after the last few days they sat there and go, you know what? We lost eight players to the New York Giants. We lost Tyler, Linda Obama, like, we need more, and they made the decision to go aggressive. And they were able to secure Cherry Hendrix in last night. Feels like a convenient failed physical to me. Is that a nice way of putting it? Yeah, I think there is definitely things that they saw on the MRI that they weren't thrilled about. But I think most around the league are looking at what the ravens just did. They're certainly frowning upon it. Everyone's got strong opinions about it.

And I don't really think it's going to change anything. It doesn't mean that no one's going to do business with the Baltimore ravens. If next year, Lamar Jackson says he wants to out, you know, I don't think that's going to change. People are still going to deal with them. But look, this stuff happens, you know, and they have every right because this was all a hypothetical trade, essentially, right? Because it really doesn't become official until four o'clock today anyways.

Okay, you have the right to do it, and they did it. Could the cowboys rescind the offered to Roshan Gary and engage, re-engage with the raiders from X-Crosby, if they do it before four o'clock today?

Yeah, they absolutely can, because nothing is official yet, but most organizations don't want to do business that way. Most don't want to have the kickback that we're seeing right now around Baltimore. And look, they can't come out and say anything. I think they a lot of people want it. Why aren't they putting out a statement? Why aren't they talking to one of us to say, here's what happened. According to them, they can't speak on medical right now. Max Crosby was never there player. He was never a Baltimore raven. He was just there to go through the process of the physical before they saw in the paperwork and made this thing official.

Now Vegas is sitting there, and of course they're hoping teams call, but from what I understand, they're not moving off the two first round asking price that they have.

Like they're sticking with that, and I see the way this is going to play out. This is how I think it will go. I think Max will be, you know, play out the 27 year. He's only 29, and I bet you were doing the story next year. We're just going to run this whole thing back. Max's reaction to this, being told face to face that go back to the Raiders when he thought he was done with the Raiders.

Well, just think about what that's like for him and his family.

You're, you're already moved on mentally from playing with the Raiders, which I don't believe was easy for him either.

I know it didn't work out well at the end of the season. He obviously had issues with the way they managed him in regard to his injury. He wanted to continue playing. He didn't want to be shut down. They of course didn't want him to be out on the field because of the knee, but also they want to just secure this number one overall pick, which they got. So now look, we've all watched Max Cross. He shares so much of his life on social media. We see him in a lot of interviews. I don't think this is somebody who is going to just be so frustrated and angry by the situation and declare that he's not going to play for the Raiders.

This is someone that's just going to look at me. I had one person in football reach out over Texas. I am frightened for whoever's got a lineup against Max Cross V this season. Like the chip he's going to have on the shoulder to shove it back to the Baltimore Ravens.

But also, I think there's probably just embarrassment here a bit. You know, I can't believe I just went through all this. I just got on a jet.

I flew to Baltimore, my family spent the day with the team. It just doesn't work out. So I went.

When did they engage with tray Hendrix and do you think like this pretty quick turnaround? Yes, they had conversations with tray Hendrix and over the phone. They spoke with him because you know how now the teams can have these conversations with with with free agents. But before or after Max Cross V decision. I don't know when they and I know they inform Max leader in the afternoon because I was talking to some people in the building when I started to get text that something was going on. Which, by the way, like you want to trust your instincts in these situations, that was not what I thought that was.

Like when I heard something was going on, you know, I'm thinking Lamar's deal. Like I'm, I was barking up their own shape full disclosure. But soon as the readers put out the statement, I knew I'm like physical, oh my god, you know, and unfortunately, we're able to report that. But you don't tell the Las Vegas readers the trade is off for Max Cross V unless you got a backup plan. I put it that way. Yeah, it's a hard decision. You're taking heat. You're, you're possibly affecting the relationship with John spy tech there, you know, in readers in terms of doing deals with them again.

There's a lot that comes with that decision. But I think in the end Eric DeCosta looked at the situation was like, I'm not willing to do this. I can't, I can't go along with this and, and the end they made the call.

But talking to Diana Rossini, senior NFL insider for the athletic co-host of the athletic scoop city podcast with Chase Daniel.

Yeah, I feel bad for the readers because they had a whole different mindset of we're moving on from Max and we're going to move on from this contract. And they spent money and they started to build their team as if they needed a couple of years before they're going to be, you know, respectable competitive. And now all of a sudden, you got a guy who's great, but you know, if you trade him, you're probably not going to get what you thought you were going to get. I just, I'm actually rooting for the readers to maybe get this right one day.

And I thought that they were in headed in that direction and then all of a sudden, I mean, if the consolation prizes you get Max Cross V back, but you're up, need him now, you know, maybe in two years, you need a Max Cross V kind of player, but you don't need Max now at that price, but this team. And I know you're looking at the moves and you're coming up with that philosophy of this is what their plan is that they're just rebuilding, but that's the truth.

That's, that's how they've been, that's how they've been speaking to free agents and to agents about where they're at.

This isn't a team that's going all in for right now to try to win a super bowl that we've seen around the league. This is the team that knows they're trying to rebuild it the right way. And they've got the money and they've got the picks to do it. So look, is it awkward, probably? I mean, I get credit to Max Cross V for driving into the facility today, right? To just go back to work and guess I'm a reader. I mean, I think you have a going away party. They start his social media. You know, he's there right now in the building.

He's in the building working out, like going through rehab as a reader, you know, and by the way, and credit to him too, just, you know, six year anniversary of his sobriety is today. You know, I, by the way, this is just me like a comb in his, I got way too much of my hand on his social media, but, but, you know, first of all, to shout out to him six years clean and obviously has had a tremendous career, but now just head down back to work.

He is the, the sort of model leader you want on your team.

We need a past, Russia, who's out there? There's not that many great ones left. You've got Bernard in Minnesota, the teams are poking around on you've got the Philadelphia Eagles who said a lot more good buys than hello's lately. You know that how he's got something up his sleeve. They're engaging in some of those talks, but maybe there will be some shift to Max Cross, but, but, but, you know, I think this is going to be more of a scenario where we see him in a reader's uniform.

Great stuff. Are the kids in school?

This, look, Mikey's biting Joey in the middle of all this. And I don't mean like a little like, you know, you know, like a little fake fight. It was deep teeth in the arm, scream it on my guys. Not now. My husband's like, what do you want me to do? I'm like, something, something. This is the biggest story. It's worth, I was doing all my tweeting last night on my back porch, just like a weird energy thinking myself. I sometimes I wish I could just video this for my kids to see one day. Oh, like, look what you did to me. Look how you aged me.

You know, Chefty doesn't have to deal with this. Glazer doesn't have to deal with this.

I think they all have their own things at home. Everyone's got family, everyone's got things. No one's got Mikey and Joey that I can tell you.

No, no, no, no. I know you're busy. Thanks for taking time.

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