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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio. The Band-Out of Bio Situation. We hold on for dear life to legacies. When you think about it, so Band-M and Kobe,
so this is just second on the all-time list.
But, you know, the outpouring of support and love, that, hey, Kobe deserves better than this that Band-M should have stopped and maybe, you know, paid tribute to one of his idols. Rajur Maris and Babe Ruth.
You know, people thought, well, somebody's gonna break, Babe Ruth's record, it should be Mickey Manl, not Rajur Maris, and he played in 162 Babe had 154 games. How about Barry Bonds and Hank Aaron? How dare they let somebody as dirty as Barry Bonds
beat the ultra-clean Hank Aaron? Miles Garrett, Michael Strahan to a lesser degree. I don't think anybody had a problem with that. It was when Michael Strahan moved past Mark Gastodo, but Gastodo wasn't a beloved guy.
It was just the way that Michael Strahan was afforded that sack against Brett Far. But those are just some examples, you'll probably have a few more for me, but Band-M out of Bio with 83,
and it just feels like the old school NBA fan
“or analyst is like, how dare you make a mockery of the game?”
Well, no one was there when Wilton did this, but Wilton was chasing 100 points that night. And nobody talks about that. We talk about 100 points. Wilton was chasing 100 points that night.
I don't think the game was already out of hand. Now it was about Wilton getting 100 points. Band-M out of Bio still put up over 60 points through three quarters. You can talk about the fourth quarter.
But let's please acknowledge the first quarter had 31.
Now, had nothing to do with some scheming game plan to draw fouls, he put up 31. Eric Spolster, the Miami Heat Head Coach, then realized, maybe there was something special, and he was gonna let him have a special night.
Then you go for 62 at halftime. So 62 legitimately, 62 at the end of three, I'm sorry. So those are all legitimate, thank you, Pauli. That's legitimate there. Now did the fourth quarter get out of hand, it did.
But he still put up 83.
“And I think we get caught up in this vacuum of,”
how dare he do that. You know, and we can't speak for Kobe. I mean, I did ask the question of, what do you think Kobe would think? Jason Jackson, the voice of the Miami Heat.
I asked him. He said, well, that was, you know, Bamet of Bio's Idol. I don't know.
I mean, if we have Bam on the show, I'll ask him,
did he give any thought to maybe not going for the record?
“But he has it as the second highest score.”
I don't know if we've ever been that upset about a situation where somebody didn't even break the record. They just broke Kobe's record. Yeah, pulling. A lot of people who cover basketball, not just fans who might be angry,
but serious basketball people, Robert Orie who played basketball, were very, very bothered by the fourth quarter. They said that wasn't basketball. That was a quest to pass a certain player and get to 83, 82 points.
And the heat fouling, that's not natural. The throwing the ball off the backboard on a free throw, that's not natural. They were bothered by the aesthetics of how the record was set or broken.
It's hard to play defense in the NBA now. I think we can all agree. Everything feels like a foul. And Bamet of Bio took advantage of that.
“He took advantage of a bad wizard's team.”
But if you're still putting up at least 60 points at the end of three quarters,
I have to acknowledge that you had an incredible night.
And yes, was the game out of hand? Yes, were they trying to get him to 83 or 82? Yes, did the wizards double team triple team? Were they foul? Yes, all of these things.
But it still comes down to you had to stop him. Everybody gets to play against the wizards, at least twice a year. Now a lot of guys get career highs or season highs against the wizards,
but 83, still 83. And I was looking at the NBA scoring. In 2000, teams averaged just a little under 95 points per game. In 2026, teams are averaging 115 points per game. And I was looking to see how many teams
have lost a game this season
while scoring at least 130 points.
At last count, I had 25 games. Team scored 130 and lost. In 2000, teams averaged 91 possessions per game. This year, 99 possessions per game. Back in 2000, teams averaged just under 14 3.0 attempts per game.
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Yes, Seaton. 130 points in they lost? Yes, I have 25 games. At last count. Wow, why did you think it would be more?
No, I thought it'd be like 120, maybe if you score 120 points,
“you should win the game 130 points and lose the game 25 times.”
I think somebody lost 150 to 147. Now, we've had some double overtime games. But yeah, I'm looking at the numbers here. And unless Google is failing me, but I got 131, 34, 137, 134, 132, 136, 138, 131, 132, 155, 135, 133.
Yeah, I got 25 games so far. That's crazy. I don't even know if I've tabulated March yet. But that's-- there might be more. Might be close to 30 times.
Yes, Todd. And you only have yourself to blame in the sport of basketball. You're playing offense and defense. It's not like the NFL. It's like we scored all these points.
It was still losing what's going on in the play of the start of the ball. Yes, Paul. I went back and looked at this. And it all goes back to Steph Curry. Steph Curry in 2014 before he had his breakout season.
NBA teams attempted 17-- actually check that 213's per game. 213's attempted per game in 2013. Four years later, it was 323's attempted per game. Every other stat is the same.
Generally, shots per game, fouls per game, shooting percentage. Everything else is generally the same. Well, if you're looking back in 2000, there's eight possessions more per team per game. So that's a lot. Yes, Marvin.
It's kind of like the ravens at the beginning of last football season where the score 40 points in losing. Come on, you can't score that many points in a professional setting in lose. But that ain't-- Well, I feel bad for a band out of bio.
It's like how dare you. How dare you score 83 points. But some of the dannets brought this up yesterday that this might be more about Kobe being beloved. If LeBron had scored 81, and bam out of bio scored 83, I don't think people would have
nearly the problem. Because LeBron's not beloved, Kobe is beloved.
I think because of that, it's like, you know, bam, why didn't you stop at 81?
I think if Kobe were alive and able to ask that question, what would you want it
him to do? I'm going to guess Kobe would probably say, go for it. Knowing Kobe's mentality, but can't speak for him, but having, you know, the number of conversations we've had with him on this show, he was the shark. It's full speed ahead, and go for it.
“Also when Wiltscore to 100, has anybody looked at the next lineup?”
Has anybody looked at the next big men guarding him? The next were one of the worst teams. The raptors weren't any good when they were facing Kobe. It's like, let's just be fair to the entire picture, the totality of what Bam out of bio did, what he accomplished.
And yes, the wizards are bad. The nicks were bad back in 1962. But nobody brings that up, nobody brings up that Wilts was chasing 100 points. Yes, Mark. And the fact that Kobe's no longer here with us makes it even worse, if he was here,
he may have been able to call off the dogs and maybe send out a tweet or even send like a personal message like they're doing like the scoreboard after a gamer whenever. And so now that he's no longer here, it makes it even worse. That's the thing about people passing away early, especially entertainers, where it's like, he would have won it this, but we don't know what he would have won it.
And so now you're speaking for him. Yeah, Jordan sent just a congratulations to him, but he didn't say, hey, congrats. You made a mockery of, you know, the sport in the last month, or last, I wouldn't have been very nice to say. Not probably not.
But, you know how Jordan is, you know? It's a surprise. He didn't. He can kind of poke you a little bit, hey, congratulations on three legitimate quarters that you played.
Yes, Paul. I do wonder though, if we had Kobe Bryant on yesterday and you asked him about
“that fourth quarter, he'd be polite and congratulatory, but I think he may also say, did”
it feel like a basketball game, did it feel like a competition, because his was a competition. I could see him maybe taking a little line like that, maybe, maybe. But this is one of BAM's idols growing up, and then you surpassed, it's not even the record.
That's the amazing part, it's the second best scoring game of all time.
Now people are saying, well, you know, if you take away free throws, how many points, you know, where would he rank all time? I like, but you can't take away free throws, you know, when we'll score to 100, he had 32 free throws, he made 28, but, you know, you shoot 43. I mean, it's embarrassing that there were that many fouls called.
At some point, at some point, I had a former official, say this to me yesterday. At some point, I know they're making a mockery of it, and I am going to make a mockery of it as well. I'm not calling all of these fouls, because you know what's happening here, and then you're just going to say, I'm not going to let you just keep fouling or get fouls and make
this about the free throw line. Now that's a former official saying that, yes, Pauli. I do have that stat, a network posted this yesterday.
“If you remove free throws, who's the had the greatest scoring night of all time?”
Willed 72 points, Kobe 63 points, and then a bunch of willed games, Bam would have been 73rd ranked all time with 48 points in the game. Here, here, here, here, here, you take away the free throws, you take away the three points,
I mean, okay, all right, well, congratulations, Bam, you're the second highest scoring
game in NBA history. All right, see, you got, yes, Marvin. It's since Kobe doesn't play anymore, I forgot how Kobe stands are, and they were out in, oh, they were man, oh, they were man, oh, they were man, imagine if he surpassed Michael Jordan in a game.
From the free throw line, I don't know, we should look it up, I think, a considerable number of money Ross Tucker will join us, Max Crosby's situation is shady at best, and then the GM for the Ravens, Eric DeCosta said, well, we were looking at bringing in tray Hendricks and Max Crosby, okay, also Kyler Murray set to, I believe meet with the Vikings today,
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It's bringing in Ross Tucker, our good buddy.
Ross, what do you make of this situation?
“"Well, first of all, Dan, I've been in that situation before that Max was in.”
So you got the right guy today, we've been the right guy yesterday too, Fritzi, but you got the right guy today." "Wow, bumped him for Diana receding, he's can't get over it." "Wow, I didn't know you got bumped." "Okay."
"Oh yeah, no, it's only been like 10 years, I thought Fritzi and I were like friends or whatever. I come on pretty much every week whenever Fritzi asks, but I guess if Diana receding needs to move it, I get bumped. I don't know." "Go on, Ross, let me let Fritzi at least have a word here."
"It was less of a bump more of a reschedule. What happens was Diana was working the phones and doing her thing, and she initially thought she had to come on earlier than something changed with who she needed to speak with and then she had to make it later.
“And Ross was in the final hour, and we thought it wouldn't serve the show best to have”
them on top of each other as back to back in, if I'll guess, covering a lot of the same topics. So we rescheduled, not bumped, Ross did today, and we had an extra data promoted, and that's really how I see it, and I hope Ross doesn't have hurt feelings about that. On social media, he seems to, though.
"Well, essentially damn what happened is, Diana receding was tri-hendric, and I was max crawls. And Fritzi is the Ravens." "I'm a terrible person." "No, I will say this, though.
This is for you guys to love this, okay? 2007, I was a free agent.
The first day of free agent's, I went to the Redskins, and they offered me a very modest
contract, of course, modest signing bonus, past the physical, the whole deal.
“Then I fly to Atlanta, and in a downtown Atlanta hotel, the next day we get picked up”
in a limo. It's just me and Joe Horn. Joe Horn is going to sign for like over $10 million a year. I guess they had to limo anyways, so they let me ride in it, and we went to the doctor's office and downtown Atlanta, you know, we get the MRI, we get the whole deal.
But the scan, we meet with the doctors, we get back in the limo. The limo is not moving, we're in the limo outside, the limo is not moving. All was in the limo door opens up, and some guy from the Falcon says, "Ross, can you come here?" I said, "Okay, I get out of the limo, and he's like, I'm Anthony blah blah, you failed
your physical. We're going to take you back to the airport."
That was it, I never even made it to flowery branch the Falcon's facility.
Never talked to the coach, Bobby Petrino, or the GM, or anybody, I just went right back to the airport, while I'm in this guy's car, I call my agent, I'm like, "Tell the red skins we accept." So I actually know what it's like to fail a physical. That's evidence that one team can pass you and another team can't, and that was my experience
with it. I already been cut several times, a little different than Max Crosby, but yes, it was not much of a conversation, we're taking you back to the airport now. Do the ravens have to tell Max Crosby what part of him, you know, why do you fail that physical?
That is an amazing question, that's the best question I've heard yet, and the answer is no, because I called the Falcons trainer, because, listen, I already played six years, I was 28 years old, I wanted to know what they saw, like what, why did you guys fail me on the physical, and they started talking about things, I'm like, "That's not true." Like, I don't have that, and then they got another guy on the phone, is like, "Listen,
Ross, you had disc surgery at multiple levels, we see some chronic whatever, like, we're not taking that chance." And I thought, "Okay, but that's an awesome question, Dan, why you're the best interviewer, because they don't have to tell you, but I wanted to know, for my own edification, like, for the rest of, should I just not play anymore?
If it's so bad, I fail a physical, maybe I shouldn't keep playing football." Yeah, I'm just trying to sort through this, and I really came to the realization yesterday
that maybe this was just buyer's remorse, that the Ravens making a move, giving up two first
round picks, and then going, "We got to pay him that kind of money, is he going to want to contract extension, we got to redo Lamar's contract." So it felt like they, maybe the reality said in of, "Do we need to do this, because this is an awful lot, why don't we just sign somebody who's not as good for a little less money, and we don't have to give up two first round draft picks and Tray Hendrickson?"
Well, I would say that, in talking with some people in the NFL, that's what most people
Believe happen.
And what I think is so fascinating about it, is my initial reaction was, "Why don't we
go ahead and check the phone records?
“Did you call Tray Hendrickson before Crosby got there?”
Was it after Crosby got there? But I think the Ravens are one step ahead of me and everybody else by saying, "Oh, no, we were trying to get them both, because if anybody checked and anybody did research or talked to Tray Hendrickson or his agent or looked at phone records, they clearly were talked with them before then."
And so, I don't know, I'm kind of with you, and on the poll question, I would say, "I don't, I mean, do I believe that the Ravens might have had a dream of having both Hendrickson and Crosby, yes?
Do I think that they thought that was realistic?
Absolutely not. That when there's all these other teams out there, like the bills and the bears and the cult
“and the eagles or whoever looking for an edged Russia, do I think that the Ravens thought”
it was realistic that they could get two and those other teams get zero? No, I don't. I think what the real question now is, is let's all just assume that they did get cold feet, they did get virus remorse. Is that totally bogus, is that totally BS or, hey, is this just business and they realized
this was a better decision and business is business? I think reasonable minds can disagree on that." We're going to Ross Tucker's CBS Sports Westwood 1 NFL College football analyst and host of Ross Tucker football podcast, follow him on social media at Ross Tucker NFL. What are the Raiders do now?
Well, that's interesting. Fortunately for them, they still have the money to take Max back. You know, they're absolutely going to listen.
“They trade him once, I think if they get an offer that they're still comfortable with,”
that they would still move him, I think now, you know, whether it's Max's doctor, the Raiders' doctors, there's a lot going on out there, kind of like a he said, she said, about what's really going on with Max's knee. This might be something where the Raiders revisit it around the draft and might be something then where they revisit it in July when they know he can pass a physical, they know he'll
be cleared and then the team that would be trading for him, number one would be taking on less risk and number two, the draft choices that they would trade wouldn't have to be until 2027. So on some level, you know, you can be a team where you still take your first round pick in 26, but then maybe still get Max's cause.
I don't think that this is the end of it. I'd say it's 50, 50, whether Crosby plays for the Raiders or not this year, if I had to bet on flipping that coin, I would bet he still goes somewhere else for a little bit less than what the Raiden's offered. Kind of a Murray, it feels like all signs point towards Minnesota, tell me why this works
and why it might not work.
Well, it might not work for the same reason, it's never totally worked with Kyla Murray
and that's because of his incredible inconsistency. You would think after seven years that you have a pretty good idea of what you're going to get from a player on a weekend and a week out basis, that is not the case with Kyla. And that's really, really tough for any organization, any coaching staff, you know, even like Kirk Cousins, you kind of know what he is and what you're going to get with Kyla
Dan, it's like a week to a week deal. I mean, there are weeks where, and I don't know if it's his preparation or he doesn't adjust as well if the defense is not what he was expecting, but there are weeks where he looks as good as anybody, he can play an MVP caliber level, he can put the team on his back and play awesome.
There's also weeks where he's a bottom 10 quarterback, he's very rarely in the middle. He's either really hot and plays really well or really poor. I think Kevin O'Connell believes he's seen enough of the really hot days that he can get Kyla to play with more consistency, this whole deal, more Kyla is reportedly talking with 3 to 5 teams today, about 20, 27, and doing zooms with them is fascinating.
He's basically saying, I'm going to go do what Sam Darnall did, I'm going to ...
year for the Vikings, what would your interest level be next year after I do this?
I've never heard of this before, but obviously it's a pretty big bet for the Vikings.
They just fired their GM, you know, they're already seemingly throwing the towel in on JJ McCarthy, so O'Connell, I mean, they got to make it work with Kyla Murray, otherwise there might be more changes in Minnesota.
“How often in your career would you ever question the work ethic of your quarterback?”
Not very, very rarely, very rarely, and if you did, it's a major problem. I mean, that's a terrific point because the day as soon as the Cardinals front office in a meeting said, okay, let's give him this massive deal, but we got to make sure he's preparing. I know it's 100 million guaranteed, but let's put something in there where he has to do
four hours of homework a night and can't play video games then. That's the exact second, where you don't give him the hundred million dollars. You can't do that. People don't change that much. People kind of are what they are.
You know, I played with Brady, absolute psycho when it came to preparation. You know, most of the other guys I was around, you didn't have to question them in that regard. Interestingly, you know, I've had Steelers guys tell me that early in Ben's career. He was kind of the last guy to get their first guy to leave and they still had that much
success and he still had that much success. That would seem to me to be very, very rare. And the issue for a guy like Tyler, if you've ever seen his high school highlights, it's the craziest thing you've ever seen. So when you're in 10th grade and you're basically the state player of the year in Texas
at the highest level, you never lose a game for three years and college, you win the
high of the number one pick, he's never really had to do it. You know, he's always been able to play it really high level without doing it. Maybe this is the wake up call or maybe O'Connell can just put him in a situation where he can excel without maybe being as much of a student of the game as some of the other guys are.
Great to see it and great to talk to you. And I feel really bad that Fritzie did this to you. And if you would like for me to suspend him or fire him, then I'll you just say the word Ross. No, I think that's a little harsh.
“Um, I think I'll probably feel better about it by next week.”
I'm just a little hurt, I'm just a little hurt. So I was not going to say no, though, because of how I feel about you and Paul in sheeten and Marvin. Wow. But as of last in Fritzie, I mean, within the last month, Fritzie thought I was doing
the Super Bowl in London in the past for some reason. And now he bumps me because his tech said, Diana is more attractive than you. We want it. We want to go with her. And that's the part that really hurt me.
And I'm going to back Fritzie on that. Yes, yes, Paul. Yeah, Ross, you can look at this the other way. You are the one and only featured guests on today's show. So you're on stage?
I know my mom texted me and said it's the best guest lift Fritzie's ever had. Yeah. You are highly God, aren't we? Thank you, Ross. Sorry, Ross.
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“What happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headlines?”
It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom, with Clayton at the center of a very
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The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract.
“Agreed to date me, but I'm also suing you.”
This is on like anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of he said she said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies, listen to Love Trapped on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever
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Game would update the poll results from our one, and do we have a new poll question for our two? Uh, man, hour one, we've got up there. Do you believe the ravens were trying to pair tray Hendrix in and Max cross me together? You guys want to guess the results on this one?
85, 15, oh, boy are you close, uh, and in which direction just to be clear? They don't believe that the ravens were going to prepare both of them. They would be 89% do not believe that. I think it's funny.
“You know, the only thing that I kind of think like maybe there is some truth to it is that”
they were able to sign tray Hendrix in very fast right after the Max cross me thing fell apart. So there were clearly already discussions happening. They were clearly talking to both parties at the same time, but man, to be able to turn that around that fast, maybe there is some truth to it.
But I don't know who was in the market for tray Hendrix, and I didn't hear any other teams because of the asking price, but if Eric DeCosta, the GM of the ravens said they were interested in both, then kind of agree, okay, maybe they were. You know, maybe you were kind of flirting a little bit. Maybe they got buyers remorse when they were bringing in Max cross me.
Maybe the more they thought of it, the more they were thinking man, do we want to give
up two first round picks for this guy?
Well, let's bring him in. Well, he's coming in anyway. Now all of a sudden you go, maybe won't pass his physical Max, we got some bad news for you. We're going to have to let you go back to the Raiders.
tray Hendrix and online one, okay, hold on Max, see you later, and thank you again. But you get tray Hendrix and I understand it. Like if I'm the ravens, I don't give up two first round draft picks. And on granted, those first round picks are going to be, well, this one this year was a top 15 I believe, now the one after that would probably be in the late 20s, but if
I can get Hendrix and I think he can give me two years, I know they gave him a four year deal, but it'll probably be two years, and if I can get something out of him that he's
not Max cross me, but I don't have to give up those first round picks.
“And I think those are essential, they're going to have Lamar restructure is deal, but their”
ravens are saying that they were in the market for both of them. All right, some of the headlines from last night, Italy helps out USA basketball, baseball
Is they advanced, by the way, the breakdown of players on team Italy who were...
Todd, do you want to guess how many of team Italy were born in Italy?
I'm going to say six. All right, see it, I'll be more optimistic I'll say ten. All right, Marvin, four, all right, Paul, seven, three, three. That's a day, that's a day, that's a day, that's a day, that's a day, that's a day, that's a day. It comes that what, what the day brought you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the D.P. show, 24 from the United States, three from Italy, too, from Venezuela and one from Canada and Team USA benefits because now you have the elimination round.
You have Team USA facing Canada tomorrow night, Italy plays Puerto Rico in the quarterfinals on Saturday. Yes, Paul. Dan, just to be balanced, I've got USA's baseball roster here, zero players from Italy, born on our roster. Right. Zero.
Yes, you.
“Does it take away from the world baseball classic that it's basically just Americans going by their nationalities?”
Like, where's Ireland out there, can we get a, can we field a team of Irishmen?
Soccer does this, doesn't it? With the world cup? I guess. I think you have to be a citizen. So I'm guessing that everybody is a citizen of the teams that they're playing for.
Well, you could have dual citizenship, right, I'm assuming that that's the case, but I don't know if I was from the United States and I played for Italy, I would demand that I get dual citizenship. I think you got to give me something other than the opportunity to play in the world baseball classic. But it's been fun.
I've watched a whole lot more than I thought I was going to and watched Italy.
Now, I'd have to go to my 23 in me and look at that and see who I would play for. How many options would you have? Well, I think I've got a great Britain. I could probably play for Great Britain, Ireland, Wales, Scotland, they're not playing baseball. I got the one and a half percent Escanazi, so team is real.
Hey, hey, go, we'll take you.
“All right, there's like 1% West Africa, so I know, did they, did they have a team?”
I'm not quite sure. You start to look at your 23 in me and you go, I got some questions about, you know, whatever happened down through the years here, how do we get some of these countries in there? The 1% to percent, yes, that's my 23 me was, it was simultaneously great and the most boring of all time, because it was like 99.9% English, you know, Irish, UK, British,
like what I, it was all concentrated right there. But you'll get those stragglers like that 1.5% and you're like, what happened here? But mine was a little more interesting than I thought it was going to be, because I thought I was going to be all, you know, the Emerald I'll, but turns out that there were some some rogue percentages in there.
All right, so team USA gets Canada on Friday night and Italy moves on to take on Puerto Rico. A couple of college basketball notes, you had McNeese, not McNeese state any more. Lehigh and Idaho, they get their tournament bids, Bobby Hurley's out at Arizona State. Syracuse has a job opening and I'm thinking Jerry McNamara, now he's got a tournament bid with Sienna and then after that, then he takes the 2 hour and 15 minute drive from
Sienna college to Syracuse to take over it is on the modern. What about Bobby Hurley joining Danny Hurley at U-Con. Could you imagine him as an assistant coach there? They were, they were on the same team, right, Marvin descent sound right? It was correct. Bobby and
“Danny, yeah. Yeah, years ago, I think they were both coaches on the same same team.”
But was Danny with Bobby at Buffalo? Or was it Wagner? Bobby Hurley was with Danny Hurley for two seasons at Wagner College and one season at University of Rhode Island. Oh, okay. Yes, so Bobby Hurley is out at Arizona State. Here's another thing. The same year, Indiana football wins the national title, the basketball team goes 18 and 14, lost to North
Western yesterday by 13 to get knocked out of the big 10 tournament.
school. Much to the chagrand of the state, that's a basketball state, but for Indiana basketball,
like 15, 20 years ago, this would be a huge deal if this happened to Indiana basketball. Now, when's the last time you talked about Indiana basketball? When's the last time they
“had a player that you talked about with Indiana basketball? That's what's pretty surprising”
here. NFL free agency slowing down, although you still have Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray is going to be probably visiting Minnesota or might be a zoom call based on what Ross Tucker was talking about that Kyler Murray wants to know after this season. If I have, you know, if I'm correctly reading what Ross Tucker was saying, that, hey, I'm going to go and play for one year, I want to know who's going to be interested in me after this. If that's what Ross
Tucker was actually describing that maybe I go to Minnesota, I want to know is somebody, you know, looking at me long-term that he has three to five zoom calls that coming up this week, which is kind of surprising. I don't know why I would tip my hand and say, hey, we'll be interested in you in a year from now. In the NFL, at that position, things change. Daniel Jones got paid
44 million dollars a year. The new Kirk Cousins in the NFL and good for him. I was surprised
at that amount, but Daniel Jones was a thing there for about 10 games and then not a thing after that. He's going to end up making just an unbelievable amount of money. Can we do career salary game with Daniel Jones? Can with this contract or without? With this contract. Real salary salary. There we go. Two-part game. Daniel Jones, how much has he made and will he make after this contract? Based off the minimum, he can make. What has he made already a
“little hint? In 2023, he made $46 million with the giants. What has he made so far?”
Let's just combine it. Okay. Yeah, make it easier. I don't know if it's easier, but make it just one total. Todd, you want to throw out Daniel Jones will make after this contract. How many millions of dollars?
227 million. Let me say 253. Marvin. 281. I'm going to go 239. Five.
It's grown in the five. 258 million dollars. Oh dang, I was close. Yes. Yeah, all right. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. The NFL, I get that five million difference that I was off by the fire. Then you win that. Yeah, Jones owns that. Oh, that's me. NFL's looking at the night before Thanksgiving. The Wednesday night before Thanksgiving when there's three games on Thanksgiving and why not cram another one in there. Now social media was like, oh, you know, I don't like this at
all and be still going to watch it. I get the NFL you can't deny like there's other sports or other events where you're going. I'm not going to watch it. It's the NFL you'll watch. What else is going to be on? You're going to be maybe going to the bar using people on that Wednesday night before Thanksgiving coming back home and you get together with, you know, former classmates, but you're going to have a
“game on and that's what they're looking at Wednesday night the night before Thanksgiving. I keep”
wondering what is the downside. I don't know if there is because you're going to what they have you. It'll be fantasy. It'll be gambling and it'll be nothing else is on and you'll watch. Yes, Todd. Wasn't isn't this something to be said? Remember the days of like you're waiting once a week your favorite TV show is on and that's that's the big day and you can't wait and they have a tease at the end and you and there's something that builds up as opposed to, you know,
just having it every day. Wouldn't that take away some of your time? Would you want to go back to 1885 when there's two games maybe three games available? I'd like a few more than that but I think
We're getting to an oversaturated point.
hurting MLB and I just, there is such thing as too much of something I'd believe in. Okay, but
“how much is too much? That's what has to be figured out, but I don't think we need to”
NFL every single day as much as we all love the NFL. You know, I wouldn't mind like a day or two break between trying to keep track of the game. There are. There's no Tuesday game. But once they do Wednesday the Thursday and like they just keep pushing the envelope and you know, I don't see a need for like trying to see if every day of the week that could be at least one NFL game. So if the what if the Broncos play Wednesday night? It's the Broncos. I'll watch that.
I don't know if I'm okay. Let's start watching St. Falcons game on Wednesday night, but if that's the only game that's on, that's how they get you. They have the stand-alone game so you end up watching anyway. Yeah. I don't think people tune out. They're turned away. That's the NFL. You know, as long as the product is good, entertaining, interesting, then people are going to watch. Even if you don't, you don't bet on the game or you don't have
fantasy attached to this. Yeah. See. Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of along the same lines as Todd.
“Where I do, I do think that we don't need the NFL almost every night. I think that there's”
probably room for everything else. And I think it's I'll always watch my team and I'll always watch
what the important games are. But it becomes less likely on that. Yes, say that we add a Tuesday game, a Wednesday game, whatever. Even Thursdays. I'm kind of like unless it's a team or a game that I'm really interested in. I'm not watching. Yeah. But I think we're different because, you know, I think younger fans probably are betting on the game and they probably are doing fantasy. We're not doing either. Therefore, you're watching these games. And the number of people that
I'm around younger people who say, hey, I got to have a reason to watch this game and they want to put money on it. That's not us. I just think that, you know, they have you. You'll watch the game for the most part. I'm with you on Thursday night. It's like I don't like Thursday night football. I don't think the quality has been good. I don't think it's fair to the players. I hope they don't do Friday. Hope they don't do Saturday. But they, they, the NFL wants to push that they want to push
it out to the world. And it's like they take us for granted. Now, the expansion is, you know, global, everybody's going to be playing a game outside the United States. Yeah, Paul. I went back and looked at the Thanksgiving Eve schedule for last year, 2025. There is no football on college or pro, obviously. But there was a triple header of NBA games. Three games between
five and 10 p.m. and the NBA started this. The first ever NBA triple header was last year on
Thanksgiving Eve. I looked at the networks. And it was all like package shows not traditional networks shows like pre Thanksgiving type shows, holiday type fare. The NBA, every time they must turn around, they go, wait, what's the NFL doing to us? Yeah, Christmas day. The night before Thanksgiving. Yes, eating. Yeah, I think it's interesting that you're just talking about how young people need a reason to watch the game. And that reason more often than not currently is gambling.
That would be the sign of not having a good product, though. If you need a reason to watch the game other than it's just a good game. But oh, well, I have money writing on the game. So now I have to watch the game. That would that would indicate to me that the NFL product is not good, because unless you're gambling, then you're less likely to watch it. Well, they don't grow up as fans of teams nowadays. You grew up as fans of players because you're in fantasy. I don't know
loyalty wise. If you're watching games, how many games you watch, I just know in my family with my kids. It's I'll watch the Packers game. Oh, if they don't gamble, but they have fantasy. So you might be watching it that way. But for us, it's different. I mean, I probably watch more football because I'm not gambling or not doing fantasy, because I had a hard time when I was gambling watching those games. And I watch, I watch Red Zoom. Yeah, I'll watch the big game of full game. And then I'll
watch Red Zoom. But I think, you know, kids nowadays, you know, attention span, hey, I got something on it. My fantasy team. It's just different than us. I'm Clayton Eckard in 2020 too. I was the lead
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