Christy Primmer on Radical Responsibility and Rebuilding Your Life

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of disciplining your process and standing your standard, and it looked like it. How old do people have to get before they realize, wait a minute, maybe if I take radical responsibility for myself, every faucet of my life will improve.

“You can't get better in any area of your life from a place of shame or hatred, and I believe”

that you cannot be cruel to your body and be in alignment. I had decided mid-2025 that I was done being overweight. I was done perpetuating a message that wasn't aligned with my belief system. I was drinking and eating. And I was doing well.

I mean, on the outside, the people looking in, they'd be like, "Oh, well, she's getting away, but she's rocking it." And for the most part, you know, like I was okay with it. But when you're looking in the mirror, and you're like, "I can't go out in the world and tell someone this empowering message, but I'm not even applying it to myself."

Right? That's it. Not when I said to myself, "Come on, girl, get your shit together." I love it. Like, take accountability.

What's up, everybody? Welcome back.

I have an amazing guest today, Christy Primer, I'm going to tell you guys something.

She was on my show four years ago. It was February 4th, 2022, when that episode dropped, and that was episode 15 of the Determined Society, and now we're at what? 275 or something like that, it's just crazy. And the thing that was so funny about that, guys, and we'll probably get into it, it was

when I was doing it on Zoom, and I, and do you remember when I started the recording, and then you're like, "Hey, afterwards, you're like, you might want to just like intro?" Intro? Yeah, intro. Are your show?

Yeah. So I had it going, I was like, I just hit record, and then I'm waiting, and I'm sitting there. You're like, "Yeah, you might want to wait," so she's the one that helped me with that,

because I had no idea what I was doing, but Christy Primer is an amazing human being.

She's hosted a TV show called Women Who Leach, she's under six seasons, and now it's prime time to shine, baby. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. Thank you, Sean.

I am so grateful to be here, of course, and I am love humble beginnings, and we were talking

“just a bit earlier about how just start, just do it, right?”

People wait till it's going to be perfect, and how four years ago? It's crazy. Oh, no. We just celebrated five years. Bravo.

Five years. You know, it's funny because the first year, when we talk about start slow or just start, so if that was done in 2022, my first episode ever dropped on February 21st of 2021, so that means in a year, I did 14 episodes. I mean, think about that, right?

And now we do two a week. Yeah.

And so, you know, you're not always going to start off on the cadence that you want to, or

like you said with your TV show, you didn't even have the proper chairs yet. No. I mean, I didn't know what I was doing, but here we are four years later, and it's just so nice to reconnect with you because we hadn't connected in so long. I was like, no, I probably need to reconnect with Christy because it's been so long, and

I'm just so excited to have you here. I'm equally as grateful because for me, this is a part of history. Yeah. You know, I mean, it was like, when I had no idea what I was doing, I mean, I probably still

“don't know what I'm doing, but I think you're figuring it out.”

I mean, at least I can hide it better, right? But I mean, I wouldn't honor to have you back as a repeat offender four years later. What's new? Oh, man. You know, there's so much going on.

I actually shifted doing more television, so like you said, season six, we actually just wrapped, and just my book sales are doing better than they had been, and I'm actually putting myself out there more. I realized that I was just dabbling.

was afraid of being really seen. Yeah. It's funny because when I look back, right, I mean, maybe even a year ago, or two years

ago, three years ago, I was like, I always thought that I was doing enough.

“Like, I am doing what I need to do, but you, and that could be true, right?”

For the amount of knowledge that you have at that time, now I look at it and like, now I know the back end. Now I know, I'm starting to learn every day and I tell Dan about this all the time, is like, I feel like I'm playing chess finally. Yeah.

Now I know the back and now I know what works. Now I know what everybody's doing. And so now we're building to a point where we can do that, too. And then we're on a level playing field, right? But you just never know, you know, it's your point.

You were dabbling. But then you probably thought, like, yeah, I'm all in, but not you know, more, you know. So, you know, I think for me what's hard is when I, when I look at those moments like, oh, man, I initially start to shame myself, like, you weren't doing enough. How do you work through that?

Well, shame has been a big perpetrator in my life. Yeah. I was a trauma counselor for 23 and a half years and still active in the mental health space. But I work through it by facing it head on.

And I like to really top into myself awareness. So one of the things I was actually just talking about this with my husband, I really

“ask myself, do you, am I thinking this or is this something I think I still need to be carrying”

around with me? Like, have I actually learned my lesson, released it, forgiven myself or whoever I let it go? Or am I still needing to carry it around?

And 98% of the time the answer is let it go.

Like shame is such a heavy burden that we all carry. Yeah. Especially when we have big visions and big collings on our lives, you know? So I work through it by facing it and I try to normalize it. Yeah.

Yeah. I love that. It's about shame and that's been a big part of my life, too. Right? Because anytime I try to get the shape, I do shame.

And that's hatred towards oneself. Yeah. It never, it never works because you're not operating in a place of love. But I recently had a good buddy of mine Alex Boylan on the show. He had a college tour on Amazon, like season 17 or something crazy like that.

And he wrote a book called The Miles That Make You. And on the back of it, it talked about the backpack. And once you put in your backpack and carry around doesn't define you, but it tells a story. And so then one of my buddies and my business partner, Pat, goes, well, I read it asks,

I got emotional.

“I looked at all my past, you know, trauma, I guess if you want to call it or, you know, internal”

injuries, whatever it was and I go, that's the heavy stuff that I don't need to carry anymore. But like as you go through life, it's also people place things in your backpack as well, that can get very heavy. And so when you mentioned that you're doing this self audit, you know, through self awareness,

like, okay, well, do I still need to be carrying this weight? Yeah, that is such a helpful exercise. When did you start doing that? Well, periodically for probably the last 20 plus years, but intentionally, very much so the last year, I had decided mid 2025 that I was done being overweight.

I was done working with certain brands. I was done perpetuating a message that wasn't aligned with my belief system. Yeah. Yeah, so I lost a lot of money and opportunities, but I believe that was meant for me,

we'll never actually miss me, yeah, which took a long time to really digest and believe

that too. But you know, it's like, we got one go at this. And I don't want to, I don't want to be waking up every day, angry at myself or not in the shape I want to be in or have the stamina or the energy. And I made that decision, like, really intentionally, probably almost half a year ago.

And this year has been kicking off. Come on, like, powerhouse. Just fucking ass. Dude, I would love it. Yeah.

It's prime time to shine. That's what you said. Damn right. It is. It's funny because you said the word intentionally, because that's your very specific

question. How long have you been doing? That means to really think about this when I say it and repeat it, please stop what you're doing and really go inward. She said, I've been doing it on and off for about 20 years, but intentionally, the last

however long, like last year, right? There's a difference between doing something guys and doing something intentionally. What are some of the differences that you know about yourself when you know you're actually in intention? Well, you know, not to play off your show, but my determination, my focus.

I don't know if I want to do it myself discipline, you know, it's so easy to say, oh, we're going to do XYZ. But when we don't have the intention and the true focus behind it, we allow excuses.

we shouldn't be doing, you know, we're not staying in a routine that's actually going to allow us to win. So I look at all of those things in dissecting, I'm very, very analytical of many things in life.

Asked my husband, but I'm very analytical and to a full critical of myself.

Yeah. The critical aspect I could really relate to, yeah, I mean, and it's heavy. A lot of time. Right? Because like, especially if I screw up at home, like, I get impatient with, you know,

my wife or my kids, like, I'll internalize it, I'll be very critical of myself. But then what I realize is it doesn't help me move forward. What I need to do at the moment is like, you know what, I was wrong. I made a mistake. Do you forgive me?

“You know, and I think those are a powerful moments, but do like, you know, the journey”

is so different for everybody, but when we were talking about intentionality, you know, for me, like, I look back and I thought I was doing all the things. Yeah. And I thought I was ready and no, I wasn't because I wasn't intentional with me. And I had a similar, this flies, like, all around me.

Did you see that thing? It's going crazy. That's how we say it.

Well, yeah, they puked on you.

Yes, I've been thrown up on like seven. Yeah, like, well, the ones in America do. I don't know about Canada, but they definitely do. Okay, cool. All right, awesome.

But the thing of the matter is, you know, at the end of 2024, I had the same realization, you know, the audience is probably tired of me hearing, I'm hearing about it, but it's a story. And like, the more and more I tell it, repetition or one thousand percent, right? Because every time they hear, they may pick up something different, sorry. But there was a moment where, and I just couldn't, it was hard for me to get off the

couch unless I was recording. So if I wasn't recording, I was laying down the couch in a blanket, watching TV being depressed. I was unhappy with me, right? I could, I was like, oh, I thought it was, I'm not doing well in revenue.

I don't have any investors, I can't, can't get anybody to invest in the show. Nobody gets it. Yeah. Wasn't that? Nobody got me.

And that was on, that was, that was my story. That's what the mayor comes up.

“Oh, my god, that mayor, like, that thing, shit, shit out of me, right?”

So I remember one day sitting in a room in my good friend Jeff Delaney was there. And I said, I couldn't even look at him. And ended up, he started talking to me, and I was like, hey, did I need your help? I was like, I can't get out of my own way. At that point, I was 228, 230 pounds, very, very heavy for 5/11, right?

And I made a decision that I was going to go to him, you know, and I was going to go to his weight loss clinic, I was going to be consistent with my hormone therapy for his other clinic. He said, okay, listen, this is what I want you to do. I want you to go have a good time for Thanksgiving.

But when you come back, get a hold of me. And if you're serious, let's do it. That's wrong. Yeah. So, you know, fast forward to however long it is now, 182, you know, much leaner, great

shape, both the thing that helped me was being an intentional with what I eat, planning my day. Yeah. And coming from it, out of a place of love and respect for myself, instead of shaming myself, it gave it this ability to become a lifestyle, and I have sustainability with it now, because

I'm not constantly worrying about is this working or not because what I do know is I speak better. My show has gotten better. We have revenue. We have investors like we have everything now since I did that.

Yeah. And so what that tells me is the one thing that bothered me the most was the one thing holding me back. It's always true. Yeah.

Yeah. I've relayed to that so much. Yeah.

“I've just said something about you can't get better in any area, I believe, in any area”

of your life from a place of shame or hatred. And I believe that you cannot be cruel to your body and being alignment. And that was a hard lesson I had to look at because my husband loves me all sizes. When he met me, I was like 130 pounds. I'm not done now.

Right. Right. And that's not my goal. Yes, to shed weight, release weight, but to be healthier for longevity.

But my husband's always worshipped me as a woman like my body and always complimented me.

And I had to say to him, you know, that's great, but please don't you don't have to love me the wrong way. Like, please hold me accountable, like not because you don't love me, but because you do. Yeah.

See that that's bad. That's bad. Shout out to Anthony, man. That's pretty bad. And he probably did it.

No, what to say? Yeah. You know, like, but it wasn't the way it was, I'd been through a lot of things. My business really took a hit, you know, like, just stuff that happened, I lost my dad,

And I was doing well.

“I mean, on the outside, the people looking in, they'd be like, oh, well, she's”

gained weight, but she's rocking it. Yeah. And for the most part, you know, like I was okay with it. But when you're looking in the mirror and you're looking at yourself and you're like, I can't go out in the world and tell someone, this empowering message, when I'm not

even applying it to myself. Right? Bingo. That's it. Hey, guys.

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It was based on the termination of disciplining your process and standing your standard. I didn't look like it. Yeah. It's like, yeah, my show, right? Like, I'm intentional with my show.

I'm disciplined in determination and that, but that's only part of my life. That's just what I do and I wasn't living that I wasn't the walking billboard in the determines society. Am I now? I believe so.

Now, I believe so.

“One billion percent, like, but that took work, right?”

And to your point, you can't do it out of shame or self hatred.

That works for about a week or two. Yeah. I mean, it really does. But how many wording is it? Not not.

It hurts, right? Because you're constantly, you're in this, you're in this mode where it's just, no matter what it's not good enough. You know, it's just not good enough, like, you know, I'm still, you know, 220 pounds. I should be, I should be 205 at this point, right?

And once I let that go and just said, all right, well, this meal, I'm going to have this because this is on the plan. I said I would. Yeah. You know, now I'm mixing some stuff, right?

Yeah. But I love plans because they work. Yes. If you work the plan, the plan works. Yeah, I got it.

I damn it. I don't know. But they said they were more healthier and greedy, so I'm like, boom, great. Give me the maple cake of one. But I mean, I know I can do that, right?

And it's not going to hurt me because I know what's going to happen the rest of the day. I had that. So, if that, then this, yeah, it's like, you know, the next meal is a protein shake. And then the next meal is shaking, the next meal is whatever. And so my point is, is when you have that plan, whether it's in your personal life or

your business, it doesn't matter. Because the one thing that is truth is they all work in unison. It's right. You don't have to know, you don't have to know how. You just have to know that whatever I say, I'm going to do, I'm going to stick to it.

And then everything else just starts falling into place. It's weird how that happens, right? It is. And you know, I'm actually, I'm walking through that season right now. So I made a commitment.

I let myself kind of slack a little through, we got to our house in Florida and October. So, you know, I've got to golf cart drive or go out, you know, we do all these things. And I said to Anthony, I said, you know, I'm going to let myself just kind of like, go while we eat very clean, that's not, I didn't gain weight from eating clean. I gained weight from the snocking and too much wine, you know, and not working out

enough. Yeah. But I said, I'm going to do that. This is my plan. And then I'm going to do dry January.

I'm going to go hardcore at my gym membership and everything's going to start working out better. And he was like, okay, yeah, babe, I support you. And he does. I'm very blessed that way.

So I started. I did all those things and that accomplishment of keeping my promises to myself. Not for anyone, by me, wow, like the things happening right now, the opportunities. And I'm not where I want to be, but I'm in the mind frame that's going to get me there. Yeah.

“And I'm going to just enjoy the, you know, what out of this journey, because life is like,”

when you, when you, I don't know if you get this, but when I do what I say I'm going to do. I don't like working out all the time, I don't go because I love it all the time.

See, but you, but you do it because it's a means to get you to where you want to be.

“And when you, when you do those things, and you're like, wow, I'm going to bed tonight.”

And I'm so proud of myself.

And then the next morning you wake up and you get an email from a brand that never looked

at you before. And it wasn't, I don't think for me, it wasn't size or whatever, energy speaks volumes. Our energy is talking all the time, our online presence when we walk into a room. People can feel us, right? And so when we're in denial and not aware of what we're putting out there, but we think,

you know, it's all good, that affects everything, marriages, children, friendships, business, or money. And I don't want my money messed with. I don't know. I do.

You've always said that. Yes. I like the money. Yeah, no, it's great, right? But it's also one of those things where, you know, you, how my gosh, what did you say earlier,

“you talked about, um, we were talking about relationships and they just said marriage.”

And so I really want to, I want to dive into that really quickly because anytime you try to fix something in business, a relationship yourself, the first, the first, the first, knee-jerk reaction for everybody is like, I hate this about me or I hate this about my spouse. Right? Like business, so I'm going to change it, what I've found is, you know, because I said,

I needed to come out, my transformation from a place of love. So if you are unhappy in your marriage, right, not you, but the audience, I'm looking at if you're unhappy with yourself, you're unhappy with your business, so choose to love those things and come from it, you know, in a place of empathy and understanding, especially with your significant other.

Absolutely. Because if you, if you have some, some issues in a marriage, which every marriage has to be. Oh my gosh. Someone says like, oh, I'm just perfect.

You're a fucking liar, you're not in my face, you're not even human, no, no, no. We all have issues in our relationships. You have friendships. Absolutely. Business partnership doesn't matter.

No one is the same person. We think of things differently and we see things differently. So it's like, but if I want to fix something in my marriage, I'm going to try to do what I can and in too many people are trying to control that other person or that other entity or variable in their business or whatever it is and they lose all the time because they

haven't held a mirror. That's right. Like, that's all you need.

And you know, one of the things that I do this in my own life, I always joke that Anthony

has had custody of me since I was 24, because I've been with him since I was 24. I'll be 47 this year, so it's a long time. So I, you know, and I say that half jokingly because I'm like, if someone's wrong with me blame him, damn it, but no, in all of reality, what I do is I visualize people how I want them to receive me.

So like if there's a person I've had a conflict with, I will visualize that being resolved easily or I will send them love and it's not always easy to do. You know, like some people have really hurt me or deceived me and I pray about it. I'll I'll try to visualize it, but when it comes to like my marriage, I have an amazing marriage, but it's taken a lot of work and sort of seasons and my marriage haven't always

been honky to ory, you know? Yeah, they shouldn't be. Same with parenting as your children age, like we only have one child, these 25. But I mean, we've parent differently, so I mean, there's so many things and then business,

that's a whole other thing, people that, you know, are always late or they don't do what

“they say they're going to do or and then you have to navigate that, but you have to do”

what I like to think is with class for yourself first because it goes back to that energy, right? You don't want to be upset with something going on in other areas of your life and then pull out your home life. Yeah.

Right. You said something interesting. How I want someone to respond to me or perceive me or say yes, receive me. And you know, and that all comes from energy, that all comes from being intentional in the words that you speak, but also having a reset energy, but having that warm feeling

when you're approaching somebody, even if that relationship's bad, yeah, they can feel it. They could say, oh, okay, Chrissy isn't coming at me with that energy right now. This is actually okay, then you find that common ground and things can improve that way. It's safer.

And it's like I said, it's not always easy, but I'm also very mindful of who I associate with. And I mean, believe me, I've learned the hard way. I thought I had people figured out, and then I'm like, oh, I didn't see that coming. And sometimes it's like, wow, okay, Nax, and sometimes it takes some time to really

process it. Right. Because I don't want something someone else did to affect my trust issues with other people.

Exactly. Yeah, I mean, like, come on. I was looking at two is like, is what, even though that person did something to me, or I'm perceiving it that way, what part did I play exactly, what was your role was my role? You know, and it's crazy because in this business, and when I say this, you're going to be

like, yeah, a lot of that shit happens. I have every minute, every second, like, there's a lot of times when people say, man, that must be great, you know, you're on top of a move. It's all we're not.

I'm never done, and the other thing is is something is always happening behind the scenes.

You're always being undervalued, overlooked, scoffed at a mocked mocked, complex chats about you. It's like crazy stuff, right? Yeah. But it's also like, okay, like you said, you know, I have to pay attention to what circle

I'm placing myself in or what I'm allowing in every single time I can go back. And I can go, that was my part in it, like that, you know, that was my part. I should have exited this community in this way. And so I'm just like, you know, I'm just going to roll out. Yeah.

“And you should be able to do that, by the way.”

You should never be gaslighted for not sticking with someone's community. It's like, if someone left my $45 community, cool. Yeah, it should never be an issue. It shouldn't be, right? But people take that shit really seriously, because they need to heal.

They have a lot of work to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll say that.

But I just think it's an interesting, you know, this industry, it can be very dirty. You know, whether it's, you know, the podcast, TV, PR, like that whole game, like everything is the modeling industry that I'm in. That's insane. That's insane.

Oh, I modeled recently. I saw that. I actually look good. Do that crazy. Oh my god.

I know. We're going to do it again. We're going to do it again in the fall. But it's funny, but my daughters, they, they want to be in fashion. They want to have their own company.

They want to move to Paris. And so I better haul last. I mean, because they're, you know, seven to nine, like my goal by then is to be able to fund it. Well, and you're showing them through your everyday life that they can achieve their

dreams. Yeah. So come on, dot. I mean, yeah, I got to get on it, right? But it's such a beautiful experience the same time because the more you learn, the more

you know, it's like, you can navigate things much easier. Oh, yeah. Right. It's like, there's the problem. I know I can find that solution over here.

And then you go get it and then you implement it.

And then you just, you're able to grow in ways that never thought was possible.

Like I remember in 2024, we hit a million listens for the first time. Amazing. And it took us until November, you know, November to do it.

“And I remember once we hit it, I was like, oh, yeah, I did a post, right?”

So million. Yeah. Because I thought it was a lot. And now, what do you think? It's not.

Well, even just if you look at like, you know, I mean, again, at that point, I wasn't playing the comparison game for us getting to a million. That's huge. For annually. That was big.

You know, in the summer of 2024, and I remember once we hit it, I was super excited. And I did the post. And I was like, all that dope of me next day, I was so freaking depressed. Because then I, because I, you know why? Because the fun part was the chase.

Yes. Sort of it. Once you learn to stay in the chase, celebrate your wins, but stay in that hunt. Because that's where you're built. And so in 2025, we did close to nine mil.

Because you were past in 12 and a half to 13 mil. That's amazing. There's some, there's some shows that you're 13 mil a month. And that's okay. Yeah.

It's okay. And I think to one thing, I just, I want to highlight everyone I've shared your podcast with. It's the realness of this, you know, and coming from trauma counselor background to going back into the modeling industry and the media industry, and even as an author, there's so

many people that are like forgetting what it actually took to get there. And forgetting that they can shift and change and be proud of every single milestone. Yeah. Yeah. I love that and thank you because, you know, Dan, tell us a little bit about that.

Look at this. I just think. Graffle. Yeah. Right.

Supergraffle. Well, you're helping people. I hope so. That's the goal. That's, that's the purpose behind this, right?

“I think that's why I've been able to stay kind of where you're at, like, whatever”

you share the show with someone listens to or sits down in that chair for the first

time. Yeah. Like your experience today is going to be light years different than it was four years ago, right? But it's like when people come and they sit down in that chair for the first

Like I've been on big.

“That was my favorite thing I've ever done is because we have the real conversation”

and we get down to the root of the human experience. Yeah. What is needed? I don't care desperately. I mean, I don't care what country you live in.

We have forgotten to love one another. I'm only giggling because our country Canada really needs a lot. Walk me through that though, actually. I mean, because that's interesting to me because. From what I know of Canada.

It's a country. It's an exact opposite. Like, so. I mean, because I was. I think this is a.

I think America is beautiful. I love America. I love my country. But it's a fucking cesspool, right? Times that by ten or maybe a hundred and that's Canada.

It's, you know, it's.

I always bite my tongue because I come from a military family background.

And I've been, I'm a proud Floridian for six to seven months of a year. Yeah. You're silver. Yeah. Yeah.

And for 16 years, you know, I've been coming to Florida. And our country and Canada, I live in Ontario, but it's just gone to the shambles. I mean, it's, it's hard to explain, but the racism is at an all-time high. I'm, I'm not even kidding. I live like three hours west of Toronto.

Mm-hmm. And it's insane. Stabbings every day, shootings every day. And this is like stuff that never happened. Like, we just had a massive school shooting out in British Columbia.

The first school shooting in 40 years. And people are still saying that everything's going tickety-boo. And that, you know, things don't need tweaking. And I'm like, no, we have a problem. We have a problem.

You know, it's funny. Not funny, but it, what, what to me is comical is that. We don't get that stuff here. We don't hear the news in Canada. Really, right?

We hear what the media outlets want us to hear. Yeah. Right. And so we don't get that worldly news. My wife grew up in Ecuador.

Oh, wow. Yeah, she, um, you know, that is awesome. I didn't know that. Yeah, well, she was born in Puerto Rico. I knew that, but I knew she grew up in Ecuador.

“And then I think it, I mean, they're Ecuadorian, right?”

Like, 100% Ecuadorian. Her dad was in Puerto Rico working. He was an executive firm. I think city bank. Okay.

And then they ended up moving back. Uh, that's Ecuador when she was two or three. Mm-hmm. Well, point is, is that when they would watch the news, they would actually get a neutral reporting of the news from worldwide.

Okay. That doesn't happen here. Not necessarily anymore. You might get international news, but it's whatever that outlet believes the slant is.

Mm-hmm. And I don't think that's real reporting. No. And it's kind of messed up. And that's what drives the engine of racism.

Yep. You know, dividing countries and dividing is absolutely. Yeah. And can't have actually put a ban. We can't access certain media anymore.

We'll get you access there. Um, like certain news outlets. Uh, we can't access as soon as we come to, well, but I love about coming to America as I get American Netflix. It's way better than the Canadian Netflix story.

Yeah. That's true. Oh, wait. We have to wait months. Sometimes years for what you guys get.

Uh, the American Netflix is fire. I bookmark everything I want to watch as soon as I get to the states. Um, but yeah, there's just certain bands. And I think people are afraid to have conversations. And, you know, one of the reasons I get asked all the time.

Why do you go to the states so much? And I say, because I love it, the diversity. Um, everybody, everybody matters.

Like, and, and a lot of Americans I talk to don't always feel that.

“But from an outsider coming in, that's what I see.”

That's what I see. That's interesting. Because like I said, I was like, wait. Are you sure? Because that's what I hear.

I hear the opposite about Canada. But we don't, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, but again, I'm going to take your word for it. Obviously. I trust.

I'll be Canadian listeners. That will say no. She's not telling the truth. And sometimes it's hard. But the truth is different for everybody, right?

Because they may not see it. Yeah. And they may not be in the tax bracket. And then my money going to things that I don't support and believe in can be very frustrating. Oh, yeah.

And you know that, right? I do know that. Yeah, no. That's the tax bracket sucks. Yeah.

You think it's cool. You're like, oh, I know that. Yeah. Like, that's not fun. Yeah.

It's like, damn, I missed the W2s. We're just going to take it. Oh, I got dinged by both because as a proper owner in the States and then work and stuff.

I always claim my, you know, my accountant does it.

I don't do it. But anyways, it's like a double whammy. But you know, I wouldn't change it for the world. Mm. I, I loved to come.

I loved to go home or whether it's beautiful on the summer. But the palm trees. It's the palm trees for me. So you're in clear water, right? Winter Haven.

Winter Haven. Oh, God. Winter Haven. Yeah. Holy shit.

Holy County baby. Okay. So it's funny because when you, when you texted me the other day where when we were going back on a message, back and forth on messages, try to figure out what day you're like, no, because I have this and it's three hour drive.

I'm like, oh, she must be in Orlando. But winter Haven. That's beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful.

Pretty cool. Yeah. It's 16 years. We've seen a lot of developments. But I just love it.

“It's like, um, but it is home for us, you know, seven months of the year.”

It's home. Well, it's home. I mean, it's, it's, it's, that's the majority of the year. Yeah. That's, you know, there's.

I wish it was more sometimes. Yeah. And we're working on that. Oh, yeah. You'll be able to figure that out.

Yeah. Eventually be here full time. Yeah. It's right here. So, you know, the more I see it in my mind, it's eventually just my reality.

Well, that's it. Right. And you, you see it. And then you feel it emotionally. Right.

And that's what it feels like. That's already. No. No. Go.

Because that's the thing that is missing. Mm-hmm. A lot of people talking about visualization, the secret. They missed that.

If you can't feel what you'll feel like in that situation, you're never going to have that.

Never. It's just, you know, I'm curious for a sense. So, I know. It's just the way it is. Because your mind thinks it can achieve it if that.

You saw what I put out today, right? No, I haven't. Oh, my God. So two days ago, my friend David Waldie came into town. We did an episode in person.

We did an episode, probably two years ago. Okay. But I've known him for about three, three and a half years. And he pulled out his note. But his little remarkable note book, right?

Okay. Or you can save all the notes to the cloud. It's all that kind of stuff. You know?

“And he's like, hey, do you remember the conversation we had?”

Are very first conversation we ever had? Like, no. And he had it. He had the notes. Wow.

And we did this exercise.

You know, basically rating my happiness on the scale of 1 to 100.

I scored a 38. Oh, wow. I was just, it was the hardest point that I feel I've had. And probably, you know, 10, 20 years. And, you know, there was no joy.

I wasn't happy. I didn't feel I was, you know, close with God. And I felt like my marriage was fine. Like, neither one of us wanted out. But I just like, I don't feel as connected as I should.

I want to be able to be more, you know, not again. I don't want people to think I wasn't connected to my wife. No, I got what you mentioned. But I just like, can think.

Yeah. It was. Well, who knows? The fucking trolls out there. Oh, he just was.

They were so angry at themselves. Yeah, they were really. Yeah. But I wanted all these different things. Like, finally, I was scared of losing everything.

Yeah. And so I scored myself a 38 out of 400. Now, so, and I was very overweight. Right. And the other exercise he had me do was close my eyes.

And think about what does my ideal version of Sean look like? Okay. What is he wearing? What is he doing? So I went on and said, you know,

that version of me is wearing tight black jeans, a tight form fitting black shirt, and black and white shoes with red accents.

“And he's like, okay, do you remember what you said about your appearance?”

I said, yeah, I was. It was in great shape. Yeah. You know, but she said something specifically. I was like, I don't.

He's like the vascularity in your arms. That day. He's like, oh, and you also went and said, what type of car you drive? I'm like, okay, well, hit me with all this.

Yeah. He goes, you know, hit me with the clothes. And he is like, look at your outfit. I had a tight black shirt on, short sleeve, tight black pants, and the exact shoes that I described,

which were all purchased after I forgot about that. That conversation. And I was like, what the hell is going on? And he goes, yeah, you say your speak on stage, top 20 show.

That's where we're at. And he goes, is that your T-Rx out there? I know it is. He goes, yeah, that's what you said you're going to buy. Wow.

And it's because I felt it. Yeah. You know, and I didn't know how we was like yourself. Feel it. Yeah.

I mean, like, I, I'm a big field person. People say, don't chase feelings. I love feelings. I'm going to chase a shit out of them. I want to cry.

I want to laugh. I want, I want goosebumps everywhere.

Like it's always make fun of me in the truck.

Always. Because it's all in command. I'll say quiet. And then it's like, yeah. Oh, daddy's feeling it again.

He's got the goose bumps. Yeah, shut up. But they'll love it out about you. Yeah. Like, I mean, they love it.

But they just take care of me. But like, if you aren't chasing feelings, then you are not feeling anything. And how can you ever create something? Exactly. And even like, I just want to shift it to, like, of course,

marriage family and our appearance and all those things.

Like, people would say, to me, oh, you've got this TV show. And you've got this and that. Did it. And I'm like, yeah, but I could do all of that and still not be feeling. You know, the best or into the next step of my vision.

Because I have a big vision for my life. And obviously, you do two and a lot of our listeners do. Right. The people listening right now, they all, they're like, yeah, they get it. But it's like, when people can step back and say, okay,

this hasn't been working for me. So maybe these feeling things aren't so crazy. Yeah. And we will.

“Maybe it is the secret ingredient in this recipe of creating my dream life.”

Yeah, imagine. I mean, imagine that, right? But I mean, it's, it's crazy because, like,

I, at a younger age, I've never, I mean,

I didn't understand it. I made fun of it because our coaches would put us in right field. You'd have your bat in your hand. Lay down. I'm like, why am I laying down on my bat?

Close your eyes. In vision. The pitch. In vision that count. Mm-hmm.

Are there runners on base? What's the situation? A lot of times they give us the situations. Runners are on second base. What do you look for?

Yeah. And we have to visualize it. Not like, man, this is the dumbest shit ever. Until I got into a game. And I'm like, oh, fuck, this already happened.

Yeah. And like recall. Yeah, I was like, oh, wait.

No, the situation is runner on second.

I'm not really out. Not bunting.

“Because maybe the guy behind me doesn't have a strong bat.”

So I'm looking for something to go the other way with. So I'm looking at her third. Mm-hmm. I'm talking base body. That's what I love.

I played base for 18 years. Picture. Yeah. So it's like, it sounds silly until you do it faithfully. Yeah.

That's the key word though. Faithfully. And this is what people don't understand. People understand they go, okay. Faithfully means consistently.

No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Faithfully meaning you're doing it. And you have the utmost faith that it's going to work without any evidence. Yep.

Of it being true. Yeah. And you know, and all that. Just maybe think of something I was talking about someone. And they said to me, faith is also preparation.

Mm-hmm. So yes, doing the work and the faith part of believing and feeling it. But being prepared, so you can be that person that has the things you want to have. And sustain it, which you would set earlier. What'd you go back?

I want you to repeat. Be the what? The person with faith, the in preparation. Mm-hmm. So you're the person.

Be the person who has the things that you want and sustain it. You know, the reason why I want you to repeat that. Be the person who would have all those things. Yep. Because you ain't going to get anything that you want until you become that woman in that man that person.

Mm-hmm. I've learned that the hard way many times, Sean. You have to be her. Yeah. I have to be her to have what I want.

“The only way that I'll tell you everybody in this room that I hack the system on.”

Because I wasn't him. Yeah. Is what I met my wife. I got wasn't the person that should have even attracted at that point. Her.

Now, Dan's probably sitting under this bullshit.

Because you've always been a great dude.

You've always been a great dad. You've always been someone that has a lot of value. Mm-hmm. But like it would make sense now. But she saw something in me, right?

There was those elements, right? But like, when we talk about, you know, a lot of times, you'll say, like, I don't have the relationships I want or I can't get the the girl or the man that I want. So many people are looking at what they want in somebody. Mm-hmm.

But unwilling to look at who would I need to become. Do a track that. That's right. So quick funny story when I met my husband. Mm-hmm.

I had a checklist of everything I wanted. Look, did you literally have it written now? I did. He's here. He's here.

When he, when I finally was going to get out of the dinner and check that shop. Coffee. He took almost three months to get me to even have a coffee with him. Because he wasn't my type. Mm-hmm.

I mean, he's gorgeous brown eyes tall, you know, all these things. It makes sense. Beautiful brown. He does. And I mean, you know, there was that.

But I had it in my head. I had like all these goals and all these things. And I had been through such a hard egg and such horrible, horrible relationships that I made this big checklist. And so when I finally met him for coffee,

I said, "Here's my checklist. This is everything that I'm looking for." And I want you to go home and make a checklist. And I know, it sounds so weird. I mean, this is our 20-year-old marriage this year.

Business trips. Actually. What, you know, Sean? You know what I mean? I mean, they're all over the top.

Yeah. Hey, it's okay. I mean, listen, I love that about you. But remind me the other day when I was on this software program was okay.

And it's like, well, there's a checklist. Like, no, I need all that. Like, I haven't written down here. I got it. That's so funny.

Yeah.

“I know what the one thing was on the checklist that he wasn't.”

A jock. And then I talked with my parents. And my dad, who's been gone. This is 12 years now. But my dad said to me, "Well, how's that jock thing been working out for a young lady?"

And I said, "Oh, you know?" Yeah. He's so dreamy. Yeah. And I mean, he's an artist.

He's a brilliant artist. He was a high school teacher. There was a smart man. And I thought about it. And he, we reconnected.

And I said, you know, I figured I'd never hear from you.

I brought a checklist. You know, he was like, no, that actually was so impressive. That you knew what you wanted and what your focus was and what your boundaries were. And I have mine and you've fit all of them. And we've been together ever since.

To so awesome for you. It's so weird. Our sons always like, oh, my gosh. How was he doing? He's doing amazing.

Well, he just had knee surgery, third knee surgery. But he's getting up for baseball season. Okay. So he's healing. That's great.

He's getting married in August. I did know that. I did know he was engaged. He's doing amazing.

“He's the first aircraft mechanic engineer with herbs palsy in North America.”

I don't know. He knew that. Did you know that? Did you know I said herbs palsy caused that birth? I don't know.

I can also hold on to what it is.

That's great. It caused from brachial plexus injuries during delivery. And so because of the tears and damage to the brachial plexus, it affects the hand all through the arm. So he's, he's got a bit of a palsy.

He can't lift his arm. Oh, hey. But he's an incredible. He's doing everything that the doctor said he couldn't do. Because that is strong, how strong my faith is.

And seeing my son doing these things. So when I'm telling your listeners about see yourself do it. Feel into it. I did that over my baby. Mmm.

Like it's, it's mind blowing. And it's cookie, but it's true. You know, it's, it's so funny because, you know, you know, the last couple days, you know, I told my wife and I had our wedding anniversary.

Yeah, congratulations. Great. Thank you. We were at dinner. I told her about my conversation with David Wally that day.

And about everything three years ago that I've

freaking created. Yeah. And she goes, it's pretty cool. And, and then I said, you know, I'm going to take Friday to myself.

Oh, well, maybe you can do, no, no, no, no, no. Let me explain to you what I mean by myself. No. No, like, no, I'm not doing anything until you guys get home. But like, for me, you know, Friday is going to be,

you know, maybe I go, I'm going to go to work out. Obviously, but maybe go get a massage. But then you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to connect and do that exercise again. Because it's clear to me that I need to read up.

And again, it's not that I don't have my, my targets. Yeah, but I haven't sat with them. Yeah, exactly. I want to sit with them again. And in the reason why I want to stay on this topic and

I'm bringing up this visualization because, you know, there's people listening right now that may not really understand what the hell we're even talking about. And I appreciate it, right? Because not everybody's a visionary.

Not everybody's a manifesting generator. Okay. They may want to be, but they don't understand how to do it. And so, you know, back in what, what, tooth, what was it?

2000 and maybe six, seven when the secret came out. Like right here in that area, right? Yeah, Rhonda Bernie. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And that came out. And everybody was making vision boards.

“Which I think are very, very effective strategy.”

If you do it the right way. Yeah. Right. And, and for the audience, I'm going to get to the right way in a bit. But, you know, all these are things that you want in your life.

But there was a, there was a massive component missing to the secret. Because I fell into it. And everybody else had a new fell into it. So I thought it was thinking about what they want. Put on the movie screen of your mind.

Movie screen of your mind. Movie screen of your mind. I want this car. Cool. I can see it.

Yeah. That's it. You just visualize this car. And then people are like, oh, yeah. Then a Ferrari shows up on my driveway.

Yeah. Hold on. Yeah. I wish. That Ferrari may have showed up the driveway.

10, 13 years later after the X secuted. Yeah. Yeah. The plan, right? And so when I say vision boards in the law of attraction and visualization done the right way.

It's really, truly getting quiet and fighting through the noise in your mind and seeing it. And again, like I said before, feeling it. And then letting it go. Yeah. Just can't focus on it.

No. I love that you're going to do that for yourself. I'm actually going to check in with you. And just see how that week go, how the whole process goes. But you just saw something like feeling it and letting it go.

And one thing I know for myself and and thought I've worked with thousands of women and men. I've had the privilege of working with thousands of people throughout my career.

Right. You fix it. Why isn't it? Why isn't it here? Well, she got it.

He got it. Come on. How come it's it's not here.

“And you know, like my car I rolled up in today.”

My dream car. Thank you. Thank you. I do that shit. I do you guys are in that job.

Young version of me would never have been able to afford something like that.

So it's it's just I'm so proud of being able to afford it or my own. But that was like three, four years in the making. And I had on my screen saver of my phone. You know, my husband's here. You can a test to this.

I had this car. And it was a CLA. Mm-hmm. Okay. So anyways, three, four years go by.

Finally, I'm like, you know what? I'm turning 40. I'm going to buy myself this car. Go test drive the CLA. I'm like, I love it.

I love it. I love it. My husband goes, no. Look at that car over there. And I said, oh, that's like 50,000 dollars more.

That's the one. He's like, well, just test drive. Mm-hmm. You know, sometimes my husband is. No, what do you mean really is that?

He's an amazing thing. He's an amazing thing. And you know, I'm sorry, sir. 50 year-in more. That's the car you want.

Yeah, I'm sorry, short. I test drove it. And I looked down. And I was like, damn. Yeah.

This is my car. So we roll back up to the dealership. I said, I'm going to put this amount down. I'm going to finance the rest and to the loo. Yeah.

How'd I ask? Have you ever, but that was yours. My point is that took years from me to actually have it in my, in my, lean way. Yeah.

You know, drive way. I guess you would say.

“Yeah, that's what they call lean ways up.”

That's what we call lean ways, really. Interesting. I know. That everyone looks at me. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah. I live in a small town in Ontario. Um, but to it to your point, like, it takes time. Yeah. Sure does.

Yeah. Because have you ever looked? Have you ever thought about everything when you were a kid, right? Yeah. And all the dreams and aspirations you had, whether they've worked out or not, or what

you wanted in a partner, obviously, in which you wanted in a life? Have you ever done a full, like, retro active audit? Like, did I actually attract what I want? I've done that numerous times. Again, I'm, I'm, I'm a very big journalist.

Mm-hmm. And self reflective. I'm very much an introvert. Believe it or not. I need a lot of alone time.

I recharge alone. I can get lost in books, writing. I do that a lot more.

People never guess that about me because when I'm on and on.

Yeah. But I'm very reflective. Okay. And I actually just did that half a year ago, a little more. And that's when I said to myself, come on, girl.

Get your shit together. I love it. Like, take accountability. It's so funny because all the good things and all the bad things I attracted like, yeah, I've attracted some bad things.

I've attracted some bad stuff. I remember in '05, '06, worrying about losing everything because of real estate bubble. Mm-hmm. And I was in mortgages.

Yeah. And then I did. And then I look back, like, you know, what was the one thing that I wanted, right? And if I had a son.

Mm-hmm. And I was like, my first child's going to be a son. It's going to be my boy. In my mom's, in my mom and my grandma and her brother and her dad, they were in a car accident when she was six.

My mom and my grandma lived. My, would be uncle and grandfather both died. Oh, well, I'm so sorry. So, yeah, it's crazy, right? It's heavy.

It's real heavy. But my grandfather, um, his name was Bobby Lee. Dostor. Okay. And, um, he was a baseball player.

He was a catcher. And he was born in 1932. My baseball number was 32. And no idea completely unrelated. You didn't know.

I know freaking, wow. I can tell you that sort of later, too. But my point is, is like, I remember looking at this picture

“up my, I think my mom had her in my grandma had it.”

I can't remember which. But it was me feeding a squirrel. And I was dressed like weird. I mean, my, I mean, my mom dressed me weird. And I was like, it was freaking weird.

It looked like a complete door. I'm like, I got slides. I'm not sure. Okay. Oh, dude, I had a mallet.

And then the vanilla ice lines. Ball players and. No, such a G. It's back now. I mean, Jamie observes as a freaking mallet.

I mean, it's like, it's like a cool thing. Not something. How's the mallet? See? Baseball hairy.

Yes. It's what's a base. It's a, it's called a baseball cut. Yeah. I try to get Bob and I son to do it.

I might do it. I might do you get a mallet. Bro, he's like, he goes, no, my dude is a baseball cut. He's like, what about Bryce Harper cut? He's like, no, I'm like, dude, this is.

But anyway, but it's so funny because I'm. I was looking at it. I'm like, why am I dressed like that? And like, why is it black and white? They're like, because it's not you.

I'm like, yeah, that is me. They're like, no, that's your grandpa. And so when that gave me truth bumps. Yes, crazy.

And like, I always wanted to be a third baseman or a picture.

Well, when I turned 11, my dad's like, the way your body structure and the kind of situation

And I didn't want to do it. But he was a catcher. Okay. Right. And so into a point where in junior college, his friends would come watch because they were still around.

They said, we could not tell the difference. He was playing. It's the same dude, right?

“My whole point to this is that's the connection with everything, right?”

And that day that they both parished, that name died, the doctor named died. Mm-hmm. Wow. Right. So I said, when I have a son, I'm naming him bone bone bone.

Mm-hmm. And anybody that I dated, I got serious with, they had to be okay with that. And then my first child, little boy, a named and all.

And I remember always wanting a Latin woman.

Check. You have a checklist. You just didn't know it. Just didn't know it, right? Because you think of these things.

Yeah. And the whole, the whole point of the rant is, we're always manifesting. Absolutely. Always. Always.

This is part of who we are. Well, the conscious of it or not. It's part of who we are. Yeah. You can say universe, you know, God.

I believe God in the universe is the same dude. Yeah. Personally, it's like the same. You know, I, I believe in Christ and like he's the universe. He's the creator of everything.

Like everything. It's everything. It's infinite intelligence everywhere. And so I just always like to tell people is like, you know, believe in this. Like, no, I go.

Have you ever, like, thought of something like really bad and then it happened. Yeah, I go. That's the tracking. Like we're magnets. Yeah.

And, you know, it's so important to have the things that you want to create the top of your mind.

Mm-hmm. All the time. Mm-hmm. But the biggest component is like, like I said earlier, like you reiterate is release it. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Go do something. Go do something, right? Yeah. Think about it.

Feel it. Know what you have to do. Yeah. Of course. Like, who do I have to be calm?

Like, we've been on this. It's no question that meaning you get on this freaking topic, dude. Jesus. But it's like, you know, you don't have to think about. The complete how.

Yeah.

“And I think that's where people get stuck.”

Yeah. Because it's like, well, how do I do this? Yeah. Sean, how do I grow a shell? I don't know.

Yeah. But what do you mean, you don't know? I'm like, I don't know. I'm not you. Like, yeah.

I know how I did it. Yeah. You might be way better than me. But how you did it? Probably wouldn't work for someone.

Cause it's not a one-size-fits-all. Yeah. Exactly. So it was like, you know, think about the things that you want to create in your life and live a good life in and be responsible, but also like dive into the hardship.

Mm-hmm. Because that's what makes us. Yep. And stop avoiding it. Yeah.

You know, like, how old do people have to get before they realize? Wait a minute. Maybe if I take radical responsibility for myself. Yeah. Every faucet of my life will improve.

Yeah. Every single one. Yeah. But that's the point, right? It's like, when I decided to go all in on me.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. But it has been a better father now. I have my moments. We all do.

Had one on side. We all do. Right. I can be one, right? I may have one on the drive here.

I'm a kid. I mean, hey, you recovered quickly. Yeah. That's good. She's over there hiding in the corner sadly.

She's going to beat me. Well, you know, my age goes fast. Yeah. But I mean, like, look, it's all about, I guess, holding yourself, like I said, accountable for those moments and like really communicating why you feel you reacted that way.

But again, we don't want to react. We're going to be able to respond. Yes. Then I heard the other day that if you get, I hate this word triggered. Mm-hmm.

But if something comes up, it's a 90 second thing. Yeah. Hold on for 90 seconds. And if you don't freak out in the first 90 seconds, the odds of you freaking out or saying something stupid and damaging a relationship with a loved one is very, very slim.

Yeah. You know, I love that you're sharing that and something I just want to add to that. I used to say this. I did a lot of couples counseling as well as individual counseling and I specialize in trauma.

Mm-hmm. Primarily sexual and domestic violence. Mm-hmm. I trafficking human trafficking. And I would say to my clients, I do not ever discredit them.

“But I would say to them, how is the best way you can empower yourself in the moment when you”

feel triggered? Mm-hmm. Because are you actually triggered or are you anticipating the trigger? Mm-hmm. Look at me.

And some people were like, open to it and be like, wow, I never thought of that.

And other people would be closed off arms crossed. Like, no, I'm triggered because he and she did this. Mm-hmm. And I would say to them, just look at it with open mind, explore it. Because you're giving people or situations power over you.

Mm-hmm. And it's not to minimize what people have gone through. Because triggers aren't just for trauma. You can be triggered when someone cuts you off and traffic and gives you the finger when you're like,

And then I like that the 90 second because it's like, I know people that walk around all day triggered. Mm-hmm. All day. That's very deadly. It's their identity.

Good God. And they don't see it.

“And I'm like, the common denominator might be you.”

You, you, you know? You.

And we always bring ourselves to the party, right?

Yep. I make a joke all the time, right? You know, my two oldest from a, you know, previous marriage and those people know that, but, you know, they, Jackie's been in their lives since shoot. They're let it a little, little.

Yep. Right? But my family had dynamic as for us. And, you know what? Like, it is what it is.

And, um, I forgot what was going with it. Shit. Triggered. Triggered. Triggered.

We're talking about triggers. Mm-hmm. Fortunately. Yeah. We're talking about triggers.

We're talking about a lot of a bitch, man. I need an outer role. I can't remember what I was going. What is it, man? We're talking about triggers.

Are two oldest from your, your previous relationship. Thank you. Yeah. Common denominator, right? So, yeah.

“I have this joke where everybody says, "Oh, my God.”

Your children are so beautiful. I go." One common denominator. Yeah. This motherfucker.

Because all three for me is a joke. So, common denominator. I, I love it because Anthony adopted my son. Mm-hmm. So, I was married for a very short time in a horrible situation.

Long enough to have my son and get out of him as well as I say. Yeah. And, um, he adopted my son. He's raised my son. He's only father.

My son is known. I'm a global goal place. And my son is the male version of me. Mm-hmm. Okay, he's six foot two.

He's taller than me. But he's the male version of me. And people say, "Man, you look like you're dad." And it used to burn me. So, about, like, genetic clean here.

Yeah. It's like, "Hi." Am I realized? No. This is amazing for my son.

Because it's so inclusive. And he doesn't have to, like, barface story on everyone.

Because people want to always know, like, the nitty-gritty one.

It's not their business. Yeah. And so, you know, I'd be like, "Oh, yeah." And Anthony would just glow, right? And he would say things.

Not the common denominator. But he would say things. And I thought, "Wow." But you just made me think of that. And that is hilarious.

What's true? What's even funnier is people go to my wife. And when my oldest in my middle, so my son and then my middle daughter. Yeah. When they're all three sitting, "Oh, my God.

They'll go to her and go, "They look so much like you." (laughter) And then, and then Jackie goes, "Well, ours were that we have together. Looks nothing like me. Looks just like her dad."

It's hilarious. Because at least I got two of them. But I mean, you know, I mean, all the kids resembling each other.

“And I think what the great thing is, and by the way,”

I want to edify you because that is an easy man. That isn't maybe easy for you. But there's a lot of people out there that don't do those things. Mm-hmm. And that's not my problem.

Mm-hmm. So that's real man. Absolutely. And I love that. And, you know, but, you know, it's so important.

Because, you know, the whole genetic thing, the blood. And there's a lot of blood relatives that I don't speak to. Oh. Amen. You know what I mean?

But I think what being a true parent is not about who created that child. No. It's about who really parents and cares for that child. Loves and disciplines and guides and comforts and provides. Yeah.

It's crazy. And you know, we have a clean break. I know a lot of people listening might be in a different situation. But I didn't have child support. I didn't have anything.

I just had a clean break. You need a lot of money to have a clean break. Yeah. And, you know, it's been like, it's my dream family.

I always only wanted one child.

I always wanted a son. I always wanted him to be an athlete. So crazy. Yeah. Because you learn so much about yourself through sports.

But I always wanted to have like, nice home, nice lifestyle. Like, and have my career. Mm-hmm. Anthony fully supported that. You know, so it's been amazing.

And having an adult child is glorious. Well, I have a series. I have two adult child. Yeah. One's a nine-year-old daughter.

And the other one's a seven-year-old. No. I'm going on what? 17. Dude.

I have a nine-year-old niece. And she's... She is going to give my brother-in-law some great hair. It's so crazy. Because, you know, I have both.

I have boy in a girl. Yep. And my love for my son is so different than the love for my daughters. Wow. It's just as powerful.

Of course.

Mm-hmm. Because like... And then Dan knows this.

It's like, he's got a son and a daughter.

Yeah. Boy, your daughters, I will bury somebody. Like, fuck with her. Fuck with them, right? Yeah.

But it's just such a different thing being a girl, Dad. Yeah. It's special. But, oh, my God. You want to talk about frustrating?

You're lucky, bro. You're lucky. You don't have a fucking daughter. Because they can get you to be the most ghetto part of you. I mean, I have some ghetto.

I mean, I grew up in the ghetto in California. I have some gangster. Yeah. I don't look like it, but I got some. My son tells me a fotho.

I don't want to find out. I don't want to find out. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Well, you know, my son and my wife doesn't like this. But my son's 12. He's almost 13 years old. It'd be 13 this year. Yeah.

I was listening to hip hop, then. I took it out. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

I think so. And so like when it's me and him, and we're going to baseball, and I'm going down for baseball, or doing whatever we're doing, going for a ride.

He gets to listen to unedited. Yeah. And I'm in an unedited and gray and pock.

“And all of that, because I want him to know that, right?”

Yeah. But also want him to have that F-A-F-O energy, too. It's where he has this little bit of flavor to him. But like, like, my wife does not like the fact that she doesn't. Yeah.

She doesn't like it. I see her boy. Yeah. But 1,000% she is correct. I am wrong.

But that's the reality. That's what we do. But, you know, those are fun moments, man, because, you know, when he gets in the truck, he's like, hey, can we listen to Slim Shady?

Like, or like the actual song, Slim Shady? I'm like, what do you mean? I mean, I mean, he's like, no, the song, Slim Shady. He's like, I'm like, okay, he's like, proud about Dre.

I'm like, never have, never will.

He's like, no, the song. Can you play it? I'm like, this is my guy, man. I actually raised my son listening to those kinds of things. And he will remember now and he'll tell stories.

I expose him to all kinds of genres of music. But he will be like, oh, mom, I never even realized that I was in the car seat. Like, we were bad. Yeah.

But remember, we're looking back at him. My mom was in town like two, three weeks ago. We were all hanging out. And I looked at her. I'm like, hey, you're, you're really questionable mom.

And she goes, what? I go, mom, I was a junior in high school. And we were watching Friday together.

“She goes, yeah, it's not probably not the best thing.”

It was about smoking weed and selling weed and, you know, fighting and killing. It was like, but that, but again, like, because I think, you know, back then, we could watch something. Yeah. And then completely disconnected from it.

It's a completely disconnected from it. It's a completely disconnected connection from what the life that I live. But you could go, oh my, oh my, wow, do we're flying by? Yeah. We're getting an hour.

We don't even want it. But so let's shift. Okay. All right. So I want you to walk us through how you just wrapped season six of women who lead.

Yep. How to go? Like, what were some of the interesting people you've had on and where are you going for season seven? Yeah. So good questions.

So season six was my best chat because every season gets better. Of course. As you know, I had some amazing women on. Alicia actually, a heart of men. She's just been nominated for the top Canadian woman entrepreneur.

Wow. She was on season six, a couple other women. Tanya Bergen. She is a powerhouse. She works with a woman named Kathleen Cameron who is really big and like under Bob Proctor, Russ.

Okay. You're a piece of Bob Proctor. Just so many women. Private chefs. Like, just women that are doing the dreams that were on their heart as little girls.

“And why that matters to me is because that's what I'm living now.”

All the things I said I want to do as a little girl that people said, like, oh, you come from a broken home.

I don't want to never work for you.

I'm doing it. So I'm like, yeah, under dogs always come on top if they persist. But yeah, I've had so many amazing guests and the whole dynamic of my show. Like when I developed the show and pitched it to the network, I didn't. I had no idea that it would be this and I'm so humbled and I'm so grateful.

And I feel like I'm just getting warmed up. So I'm thinking of season seven and I'm thinking really big. Even bigger than what we've done, like prime time big. And so actually it was just texting with my one of my producer's. And I was like, you know, we got a child I got all these ideas.

And so she literally was like, we love these ideas. That's the brand girl. It is. It's a moon shot. You got to get it.

Yeah. But it's crazy because it's like, I mean, four years ago when we were, you know, when you can watch out. You're on season two. Yeah. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. And you know what now, one thing that's really different. And this is just to help anyone listening if they have a show. One thing I've gotten really good at is partnering with different brands that I believe in. And that I love.

And so I get all my out of it sponsored.

I have a lot of wardrobes. We need to work on the wardrobes stuff. But I learned how to leverage my talent and impact. I mean, it's all about impact for me. That is at the end of the day.

But there's been so much growth.

“And I think it's just taken a lot of leaning back and learning.”

Yeah. I'm figuring it out as we've grown, you know? Yeah. I mean, to your point, you know, like, when I rewind to four years ago, I remember, you know, having you on the show.

Yeah. And not that I don't look up to you now because I don't want you to miss and true that. Because I do, right? You know, but back then I'm like, Oh my God.

She's got a TV show. She got two seasons. And she's coming on my show. Like, what? I don't even know what I'm going to do.

I don't even know what I'm going to talk about. But it's crazy because like when you look back at all of it, right? And everybody grows and everybody, you either rise to the occasion, or you find something different to do, right? Because how many people do you know?

In that time period that we knew together. That are doing nothing. That they're not doing anything that they were doing back then. I'd say at least 75%. At least.

At least. Yeah. It's like they don't even come across the. I don't even know what I hope they're okay. I hope they're okay.

Yeah. I would check. You should probably check it on. But no, it's like I'll go back and like if someone pops into my mind. I'll type their handle in.

Yeah. You know, I'm like, what are they doing? Okay. They're still doing it cool. They're just not coming across things.

So I like a couple things. I start coming so I can't support. Right? But it's just, it's crazy to me because this whole thing is kind of surreal. You know, the whole growth engine behind the show and the personal brand and like,

how it's gone is kind of really cool to look at from Sean four years ago, not now. Yeah. Because the Sean now doesn't get it. Yeah. But the dude four years ago would literally kill and name to be in the seat right now.

Yeah. And so like that's just kind of a point. I wanted to bring up for the audience that is sitting there and they may not have everything they want right now because trust me, I'm far away from where I want to be. Same.

I'm not even close. Yep. But like I've got to sit with the fact that we've grown it pretty damn good and pretty damn quick. Absolutely. And it's so funny.

I was talking to somebody the other day up in New York.

Going up there to potentially do a pretty big show with somebody on the third.

I'm still waiting on details. Yeah. He's actually available and he's available at this time. And I was talking to the studio owner, right? Like, hey, I'm going to have this name on.

And I'll tell you all fair. Okay. Um, but I'm like, you got any other big names. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

“I got this person, this person, this person, what about this person?”

Do you want this person? I'm like, so point where he's telling me that he's friends with the person that wrote Rudy, the screen wrote the screen. Wow. And he loves the Naples by the way.

Really? Yeah. I was like, yeah, he can come on any time. Well, like, to think that I could have the guy that wrote Rudy, sitting right right there.

Right here. But he asked me a question. And I paused. So, hey, let me ask you a question, dude. I'm like, what's that, man?

He goes, I just looked you up on Apple. Is it okay? Like, you do your top 25 out of every show in America. He's like, not kind of goorically. I go, I'm aware.

You're talking about out of all the genres, like, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. He goes, how the hell did you do that in five years? It's like, I know.

It took forever, huh? Yeah. He's like, that's fast. Yeah. Doesn't feel like it.

It never does to the person in it.

Yeah. Don't I mean, that could be applicable to anything. The people are building. It never feels like it for us. Yeah.

But it's, it's amazing. So. You know, and the other, the other question is he's like, do you ever fall out of that? I'm like, yeah, of course.

There's time for a fall to 35. Come back up. Yeah. Get up to 20 fall to 27. And he goes, but that's not that big of a swing.

“I'm like, no, he goes, why don't you think you fall further?”

I say, because I guess in your words, you know, I mean, I feel it took a long time. You said it was quick, but, you know, maybe it's because we were in the top 100 for a long time. Then we were top 60 for a long time.

Drop back down to out of the top 100. Then back, and we've worked all the way up. Yeah. And then I think when you stay consistent and you bring viable conversations or whatever the value

prop is for whatever it is you do. Yeah. If you keep showing up. They're tuning in. Like new listeners, too.

Yeah. You're staying power. Yeah. If you do it the right way. Mm-hmm.

You're staying powers there because you don't. I mean, again, we met. And there was a, there was a bunch of flocks in the pants. Yeah. I don't hear anything about them anymore.

Never. I, like I said, I hope they're okay.

I mean, I don't hear anything. Yeah.

it's because they didn't do it the right way. Yeah. Oh, you just said something that I, I literally pray about this and meditate on it. I've been, I've been offered a lot of shortcuts. Mm-hmm.

And I kind of done a lot of different things to get a lot of different things.

And I always believe in integrity and my tenacity is strong.

And I know that God will reward me because I'm doing it the right way. Yeah. Right. So that's it. Yeah.

There's a lot of shady, like people. And it's unfortunate because people are selling shortcuts. The shortcuts never sustain. No, I think not usually. No.

I, you know, shortcuts are great. If you're trying to get some more quicker and you go. Yeah. And how do they want to have it for a year or two? Yeah, that's cool.

Yeah, go ahead and do that.

“If you want to burn out, go for it, right?”

This show is iconic. So that's why you've been building that the way. Thank you. I don't know. I mean, that's.

I have a hard time accepting that. I appreciate you. But it is. But yeah, I mean, I think it's just about, you know, I mean, and again, it's a little bit about me,

but it's been more about conversations like this. Yeah. That people get. Mm-hmm. That's relatable too.

Yeah. When I talk about this, when I talk about anything stupid, we're not following trends. Yeah. I think PRYs you do have to follow.

Absolutely. We have to do that, right? If there's a storyline coming out, I try to get on it. Yeah. You know?

And if we can't turn it around in time, then I won't do it. Yeah. Because doesn't make sense to do something, and then turn it around two weeks later, when it doesn't. It's not where it is.

The cycle's gone, right? You get enough. It's going to be a long burn or a quick burn. If it's a quick burn, get on it now. If it's a long burn, you got time.

Mm-hmm. You know, but it's just interesting. But before we, you know, close it out, I want you to also talk about, you're doing something for international women's day, and you're giving away a lot of your books. Yeah.

I'm so let's talk about your book and let's talk about that and how women can, you know, participate or be a part of that day. Cool. Okay. So I'm actually speaking out of the event at the Chamber of Commerce.

And I'm going to be doing a circle exercise, which is in my first book. I published in 2016, Prunk Times Success. And it's all about inventory of your circle for every relationship, whether it's a paid relationship or a personal relationship. Mm-hmm.

“Also going to be talking to them about like, what's it like to actually be in the driver's seat of your life, right?”

Not in the passenger seat of the driver's seat. So that's cool. And then I actually have my poetic compilation exposed Anthony actually illustrated my poetry. But you did a poetry book. Yeah, I did a poetry book.

Yeah, I did a poetry book in 2019 and then 2021 I released confessions of a self-care junkie. New that one.

Which is, which is really powerful.

And I just love empowering women. I mean, obviously I empower men too. Mm-hmm. But I fault for me personally. I want to do right specifically to women because the healthier a woman is, the better she loves.

Mm-hmm. And the better she lives as a wife, as a mother, as a friend, as a daughter, as a business owner, employee, whatever. So healthy women actually really make a difference. But yeah, and then getting a whole, I love connecting on Instagram and Instagram as my jam,

the grand, at Christy Enderscore Primer. But there's so much more to come. And I'm just, I'm grateful for these kinds of conversations too because sometimes it's not, it's not, it's not that it's lonely, but it's sometimes when people don't art in it. And don't get some of the, the stress struggles, frustrations, or even the winds.

Like some people don't get the winds of certain guests that you know, over or people you meet or things you get to do. Because they don't, they're like, well, of course you did because of you. They don't actually get what it took to earn that or to receive that. Mm-hmm.

So I love that. About you. I love being reconnected. This setup is so dope. Yeah, it is.

It's so cool. It's such a cool. Your CEO is amazing. Thank you. This is amazing.

“Yeah, it's been, it's been one hell of a journey, bud.”

I mean, it's. And you're just getting warmed up. Yeah, I think we're just starting. Like we're talking multiple millions. That's, that's what I see for you.

Billions just declare it, right? Done.

You know, it's funny because like, I've always been able to obviously like I said,

think about what I want. And then eventually it does happen. Yeah. There's a couple things. There's just two different numbers that stick in my mind.

And the first one is big. But it's a lot smaller than the second. I'm going to share it with you. Okay. The first number is 10 million.

Okay. So I don't know when this is going to happen, that's not my job. Yeah. My job is to execute things. And so I see our first, you know, multi-year deal for like three years 10 million.

Yep. It's rookie contract. Yep. Right? The next one is 250 million.

Yeah. I mean, I've been saying this for how long? Two years. I was shocked when you said 10 million actually. And I couldn't win.

Which is fine. It's not to criticize by any means. I could be under shooting it.

I don't know. Hey, when you hit. Perfect. I'm going to do 50 first. Exactly.

And you're open to that. I'm okay with it. Right? I'm okay with it. I know how much of my company I own.

Yeah. Perfectly.

“Like what I just think that, you know, and those numbers that we talk about.”

You know, it's not about for me.

The, you know, 150 million.

Yeah. That would be mine. It's about what can I create with that. Yeah. Can I do for my daughters?

Mm-hmm. What can I do for my son? You know, and that's the kind of stuff that you look at. And now you invest and you have generational wealth. So now, you know, I just want the day to come when my daughters go.

Okay. We just graduated fashion school. Yeah. We want to go to Paris. Because that's what they want to do.

We want to go to Paris and we want to open up our own clothing line. Okay. I'm machined. Without question. Without without any hesitation.

Yeah. What do you mean that? I was like, do you know how much you need? And then they're going to say, no, I'm okay. Well, let's, I'm your partner.

You're going in business with me. And I'm going to invest 100% of it. Just because. Mm-hmm. I don't want to return.

But you need to do the labor work and tell me how much you need.

Yeah. And where do we need to be and when do we need to be there? Same thing goes for my son, whatever he wants to do. Yeah.

“But I think that's like, like, for me, that's what I want.”

The only thing that I want for me is I want that forever home. And when I'm at home, I want a damn chef. Yeah. I don't want to have to do anything. I don't want my wife to ever groundscapers.

Yes. Landscapers. I want my wife to ever have to lift another finger. I don't want to have to even look at laundry. Right?

I don't want to look at anything like that. And then I want the backyard and everything like that. I want it to be like, and you can see it. I'm already already know what it looks like. I want us to look like a matter of resort.

Yeah. Can't come. We're crying out loud. That's all I want. That's it.

Well, and on top of that, you're having impact. That's rippling through the world. Yeah. So that's the checkmate. Right?

We talked about chess when we started talking. Yeah. So checkmate. Yeah. Checkmate.

Like I'm bored. Yeah. Yeah. I did play in checkers. I'm not very smart.

But I just, I just, I crave the moments where I can just look at my wife. Look at the kids and be like. Board. Yeah. Man, me too.

We'll hop on a plane. Yeah. More leave. What do you mean? I don't know.

Let's go somewhere. Right now. Like right now. Like let's go. I want to be able to go with my friends and like stick a dude strip man.

“Like those are that's what I want to do with money.”

Yeah. I don't want to. I don't need. I don't want to be a big thing. I don't want to be a big thing.

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I don't want to be a big thing. I don't want to be a big thing. I don't want to be a big thing. I've been told I was a determined young girl from everyone I met when it's become a determined woman. I take that as a great compliment because when I decide that I want something, I get it.

It's usually better than what I could even conjure up. I love it. It's about doing things when you don't want to do them. I do that a lot. It's funny because I thought determination was loud.

Yeah. It's normal.

When we first met, I was like, you know, I was like, you got to go 1,000 miles an hour.

Everybody else is going 1,000 miles an hour. That's what determination looks like. No. This determination to me is sometimes waking up in the morning and putting your shoes on and just getting out of the house. Sometimes it's getting to the gym and doing your best that you can.

And it's in those moments where nobody else knows what you're going through. But you're still doing your damn thing.

Yeah. You know, I stole a definition from Dan. I used to work with him at paychecks. Okay. And we became really close friends and now he's over here with me.

And, you know, he'd always ask us, you know, all the salespeople, what's the true definition of commitment?

And he would always say, is doing what you said you're going to do long after the emotion wears off. Oh, yes. And it's funny because I want to show I was like, that's my, it's very good. But I stole it from him and that's my definition of determination. Because, you know, it's like doing what you said you're going to do no matter how you feel emotionally.

Yeah. Because that's what adults do.

“I was going to say that's what we have to do as adulting.”

So kids might roll their eyes at us. We still have to show up and go work. Yes. You know, we have an argument with your spouse. You still have to show up and do what you said you're going to do, right? You know, like you, you have an argument that I before you.

So we're going to hop on camera. Yeah. You sleep for two hours. You still have to show up. Dude.

I didn't see what happened. I tell you what happened. I can't believe it. It's a funny, you said that. So not last night, but then I before I couldn't fall asleep until 4 a.m.

I woke up at 6. Because I still get the kids out of the house. And help my wife in the morning. But I couldn't sleep because I was massive headache. And I couldn't figure it out why.

And then it was just like, oh, but then yesterday, we didn't have recordings.

Thank God. But if I did, I wouldn't have canceled it. Yeah. But it done it. Still did everything I needed to do.

And then went to my son's baseball game. And then what we went to dinner. And then I do the thing at night with them. And then I fell asleep hard. Yeah.

But that's like it. You know, discrimination just means you're still doing it no matter what. You don't have to scream. You don't have to tell everybody. I'm doing this.

But you do the damn thing, man. I do a lot of things with determination and silence. Sometimes I don't even tell my husband. I mean, I tell him everything. He's like my walking diary.

Yeah. I've got a wife. Yeah.

“But there's a few to things that I think, you know what?”

Until I'm actually doing it consistently from my end, I don't want to tell one more thing that I'm not going to follow through on. Yeah. That was one of the things when my son's about my wife. I was like, I'm going to get in shape.

Yeah. Like, that's it. Yeah. And she was. You said it before.

Yeah. Because again, but I've been, it's been three weeks. I've lost, you know, 12 pounds. She was like, hey, cool. But like, when are you going to quit it?

Yeah. Because you, you've been through. Because you taught her to think about, right? Exactly. So it's like, I can relate to that.

You know, but you know, you said, you know, discrimination sometimes is just to yourself. Mm-hmm. It's very quiet. Mm-hmm. But it's loud.

Very. The result. Yes. It's like, what just happened? Mm-hmm.

It's like two. That was five years of grinding or five years of silence. I'm not giving up. Mm-hmm. When you cut up.

Yeah. How many times a day sometimes? How many times have you wanted to quit? Oh. Lots.

Mm-hmm. I mean, I can't even. It's not as frequent now. Yeah. Because I've learned how to master my own mind fairly well.

Um, when those thoughts creep up, but for many years, every day. Like, why am I doing this? No, no one's discovering me. I've so much to share. How come no one appreciates me?

How come no one wants to pay me what I'm worth? That, that, that, that, that. You know, that I'd hire these coaches and give them my money and they're like, charge what you're worth. And I'm like, that's not working.

That doesn't resonate. Yeah. It's like a crisis. Yeah. You know, bounces on prices on prices on prices.

But I'd like a lot of cash. Yeah. I like a lot of them. My piggy bank, please. It's funny because it's like everything you just said is what I felt.

Yeah. We're a very long time. You see, you get it. Like so many listeners are right now. They're not in their head, right?

Men and women alike. Like so many of us just feel overlooked or like, Why don't we get the right investor? Why don't we get a, like, how come we're not making the right decisions? You know, and then it's like, wait a minute.

You've been making some good decisions because look at what's been happening.

“And that's what I do to myself in my head.”

I'm like, wait a minute. Look at what you have achieved. You've made, you think I've raised a champion.

My son is an incredible young man.

That's my greatest success in life. Being a good mom breaking breaking cycles. Yeah. You know, that's nothing. That's nothing.

That's nothing. With that. Yeah. That's massive. That's massive.

There's nothing can beat that. Right. Well, yeah. It's like when you look at the whole thing. Yeah.

You know, a lot of times like become speechless about it. Because I will get frustrated. Oh, I mean, I, I mean, and the reason why I ask you how many times. If you want it because like multiple, like multiple times per day. I've wanted to.

Yeah. Lots of, yeah. But what hour is that? Well, like, what time is it? Like, what day is it?

Like, maybe at 8 a.m. today. I was like, man, fuck this. Yeah. But it's one of those things where that's an emotional, you know, figure response that you're reacting to something different.

It's not even related to this that may have happened in the past, right? It's not the route. No. This isn't the route. No.

This is, this is the passion.

But, you know, I, the reason I wanted to bring that up and ask you

because one, I respect you. And then, too, I really want the audience to, to really hear from somebody else. How normal is to want a quit? Yeah.

It's often sometimes. Yeah. And different things, you know? Mm-hmm. But it doesn't mean you quit.

I won't quit. No. Like, all the mandino said, I will persist until I succeed. Mm-hmm. And I chant that.

And I want to quit. I'm like, I'll persist until, and I sometimes say it and really loud, really quiet.

“And I just remember, like, what am I doing this for?”

Because it's not just for me. It's the legacy I want to leave, not just even for my son, my husband, my family. But for the world, I have a big vision of the amount of people I want to help.

And I have to stay in it to reach them if I quit.

It could be tomorrow. I could quit today. And then tomorrow, I could have had my dream offer the impact of in the world that I've been desiring for years. Right?

So I can't quit. I'm not a quitter. It's funny. No, you're not. And I'm not.

And nobody in this room is. No. There's one of those things that, you know, when I think about it, it's like, one more thing before we shut it down. Because this, I think this is important.

When you said something like, it wasn't working or it is working or something like that. It made me think of something. Remember talking to an individual probably three, four years ago?

And I was giving that person the vision. It was a male.

It's given him the vision of what I wanted to do.

And he goes, it's not going to work. It's not working right now. It's not working right now. It's not working right now. I go until it does.

Yeah. And he goes, what do you mean? I just said until. And he's like, I don't understand.

“I said, well, the first time I said until it does,”

and now every time you say something to me that makes no flip-and-sense, I'm going to say until. It worked. I love that. Do you have to stay on your shit?

You cannot build something beautiful in your life, listening to other people that haven't built the exact same thing and for the exact same purposes that you want to build it. Yeah. It has to be you.

It has to be authentically you 100%. Absolutely. And if you believe in it, it will end up working out. Absolutely. And better.

Like I said, better than we imagine. I'm so waiting for that. No. I don't even know if you're with your personal chef sometime. Yeah.

Seriously. Go home. I don't have them yet. Oh, yeah. But no, I mean, to the point is, like, yeah, I mean,

if it's all in stages, right? So if I look at it now, like, no, this isn't it. It. Yeah. But three years ago, I wanted was a studio.

That's to me when I'm in everything. Exactly. Right. So it's like, you know, different levels and your versions of yourself. And like, really take the time to appreciate where you're at.

“Sitting at where you're at where it all of is, right?”

So well, thank you so much. Thank you. This is amazing. It's been amazing. So good to see you now.

You're going to go get some food. Yeah, check out Naples. Check out Naples. Again, I told you, just go to true food kitchen. Yeah.

It's, it's very good food. Are you taking, you got all this? He's my driver today. He's driving us to see. I just go right out on Pine Ridge.

You're going to run right in the true food kitchen. You'll cross over 41. Okay. And then that's where it is. And then waterside shops are beautifully all the blast.

You'll go home a few thousand dollars lighter. But it's okay. You know, I'm working. It's in my knowledge scale victories. Okay.

Fine, new clothes. Go buy a scratch off at a shitty gas station. Make the money back. Yes. Exactly.

Don't blame us if you lose money doing that. Yeah, seriously. No, thank you again. It's been, it's been so rewarding to have you back on the show and in person after so many years. And, you know, just like I said earlier, we look back at it.

You're episode number 15. Wow. That's insane. That's crazy, man. It's crazy.

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