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Donald Trump is really angry at Marjorie Taylor Green right now, and it's because of this. In an improvable turn of events, Green has emerged as a very effective critic of the president.

A remarkable new CNN interview demonstrates why. In it, Green said that Trump is mentally unfifed for the presidency that the people around Trump really need to reign him in, and that Trump is catastrophically failing. This is a watershed moment. Trump's disastrous Iran War and his threat to obliterate Iranian civilization are clearly pushing Republicans to look past him. Salons, Amanda Marcott, had a good peace arguing that in some basic sense Iran is breaking Trump. So we're talking to her about this obvious sunsetting that we're seeing in the president. Amanda, always nice to have you on.

Thanks for having me. So Trump had this really stupid and juvenile tweet about Green. He called her Marjorie Trader Brown because Green turns to Brown under stress. He said, Trump claimed she's deranged and even suggested that she smells. On CNN, Green was asked to respond to this. Listen, you don't respond to bullies and you don't pay attention to people when they're failing. And President Trump is failing right now. And so he's a man that's lashing out. I mean, after all, this is the man that threatened to wipe out an entire civilization of people. You can't you can't respond to someone like that. They're mentally unstable.

“Amanda, I think the kill shot there is that Trump is failing. Everybody knows this is the case. At this point, Trump is making Marjorie Taylor Green look like a state's woman, which I didn't see coming. What did you think of all that?”

Yeah, what's funny is like the very thing that made her such a thorny people side and before, like before, it's kind of what's her superpower right now, which is she is in a lot of ways kind of a normal person. Like she was before when she was a conspiracy theory whose mind was kind of like got a little deranged by the pandemic when she was in Congress. She was channeling, I think, what was like a lot of low information, normal people's reaction, you know, on the right, but nonetheless, normal people's kind of unhinged reaction to those set of events.

And now that things have normalized a little and she's gotten a little better educated about politics, she is channeling a very different kind of normal person reaction. But at the end of the day, like she is not coming from an elite point of view. Yes, and I think she's a business person herself, and so I think she probably speaks to these certain elements in the Trump coalition that aren't maga, that are business owners, you know, the reactionary car dealer owner, for instance, small business people.

They clearly got the brunt of the tariffs and are really getting clobbered by inflation under Trump. And I think she kind of crystallizes a sense among those demographics that this guy is just fundamentally unfit that this is just a failure, the whole enterprises of failure. Does that seem right to you? Yeah, no, I think it's really insightful. I think that he always connected with a what Marxists would call the petite bourgeoisie right. But yeah, like that, the small business owner types, because they actually kind of mistakenly solve themselves in him.

He presented himself as an entrepreneur that was always untrue. He was actually just a neppo baby living off of his dad's money.

“But I think they therefore thought that he would at least have their best interests in mind. And now it's very clear that he has nothing but contempt for the actual entrepreneur because he does not do anything to support them.”

Absolutely. Well, let's check out a little bit more of green after Trump tweeted his threat to obliterate a nation of 93 million people. Green culture has removal via the 25th Amendment. She was asked on CNN why that was the final straw listen to this.

And people within the administration need to step up take responsibility and rain this end. Amanda we've been talking about how on fit Trump is for years, but there's something in both the Iran war and in his threat to obliterate Iranian civilization that I really think caused something to snap in a lot of his allies. But it gets that they finally realize that this man is unfit to have the American military at his fingertips. And here's the critical part that there's really no barrier of any kind to the unthinkable. He's got to be rained in your thoughts on all that.

Yeah, I think that one of the things that really held the Magical Mission together under Trump was the conspiracy theory mentality and Marjorie Taylor Green was a kind of classic example of this a lot of people are conspiracy theorists it's kind of fun to be a conspiracy theorist it gives some shape and meaning to things in the world that you don't like the pandemic again caused a lot of people to really dig into conspiracy theories.

I've been fascinated by conspiracy theories for my whole career and I can say what's interesting about them is the people that engage in them nonetheless still often have limits.

And they will shun somebody who has crossed the line so like for instance when Alex Jenins went full sandy hook true there there were a lot of other conspiracy theorists who were here for his 9/11 conspiracy theories and moon landing or whatever but they were like they were like these are little kids that were shot to death do we really have to go there and I think that there is and it is a moral limit is not. You could probably dig deep into the psychology of conspiracy theorists how why it is that it's about morality and not factuality that they set their limits.

“But it is what it is and I'm glad for it in this case and I think it's just very difficult for people to say I still want to live in the space of unreality when they're being faced with the reality that I think a lot of us are really struggling with.”

But logically right now which is the complicity as Americans in what is happening to Iran and like I you know I didn't vote for Trump and I still feel terrible about it as I can only imagine what it must be like to like feel that more away if it's if you're actually allowing yourself to any did vote for him. I have a piece of a TNR dot com I'm just going to take this occasion to plug it which gets into some of what you're talking about there which is that there's actually a major psychic cost to the American people in seeing Donald Trump threatened genocide like this and critically I think there's an even deeper psychic cost to suddenly realizing that we don't have any mechanism to stop the sky if he decides to do that stuff.

“Is that right to you I mean that that's what I think is really precipitating kind of a new level of alarm about Donald Trump this kind of realization that the Republican party has been faced with a madman who was willing to.”

commit genocide potentially would nuclear weapons although they denied that and even that wouldn't get the Republican party to step up and stuff him and so there's no barrier there's nothing between us and the unthinkable and between us and this madman and I think that's a breaking point for a lot of people what do you think. So I think that certainly the people in my life my co-workers my friends have been struggling mentally and psychologically with the situation in a way that's very hard to wrap your mind around it like.

I think that's a really hard to sleep lots of stress you know lost appetite it's it's actually affecting people on a really profound level.

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I have the feeling that shopping trip is a platform that can only be obtained. Everything is super simple, integration and balance. And the time and the money that I can't invest in there can also be invested in it. More broadly, it seems like the Iran catastrophe is precipitating a new urgency and mega world to start thinking past Trump.

“I think another critical tell here is all these leaks that are positioning JD Vance as this sage-like figure who privately warned against the invasion.”

But of course, he said, Mr. President, if you really want to do this, I will support you because he's not just filled with wise foresight. He's also very loyal.

But it's clear that some of the key mega people don't want the movement to be tainted by this catastrophe and recognize extreme peril for its long-term prospects and the GOP's long-term prospects in being associated with this war. What's your reading of the mega landscape and do you think they can get out from under that problem or not? That's a good question. I think JD Vance, that article in the New York Times, that was obviously sourced by JD Vance and Marco Rubio and Susie Wiles all basically throwing Pete Hex Seth under the bus being like, "It was his idea. We said no."

Let us tell you that there are a lot of people who are hoping they can sort of escape with their reputations intact at the end of this.

“But I wish it was a moral thing. I wish that they were doing it for moral reasons, but I think it is mostly that like most of them do remember the Iraq War and just the very long-term damage to the Republican brand that it had.”

And I would say Donald Trump won because of that damage, because so many Republicans, I know it's hard for people to wrap their minds around, but even in 2016, so many Republicans were still feeling kind of shame and failure from Iraq and Donald Trump seemed to be a different kind of Republican, a way to get away from that history. Now he's just doing it again, and so obviously there's just like, "What are our options here? It weighs them down. The American people hate it." And I, you know, that said, I don't think they can escape it. I mean, who out of the Bush administration was able to escape that vortex, you know?

Yeah, well, you know, it's interesting to say that it's brought to mind for me, which is that it's probably not a coincidence that the two most charismatic Trump in his own twisted way and successful movement politicians of the last two decades, both kind of emerged from the post Iraq malaise, Barack Obama and Donald Trump. I don't think that's a coincidence to you. No, not at all. I mean, everyone I knew who backed Obama and I backed Obama in 2008, we all explicitly said because it was a rebuked to the Democrats who went along with the Iraq War.

And I think we could see that happen again. One of the reasons that, if not then, number one reason that Kamal Harris lost in 2024 was she was so associated with Biden's backing of Israel in the war against Gaza. These become hard red lines. They may stand in for larger issues that people have with the parties, but I would warn both Republicans and Democrats that if you want to win, find somebody that's plausibly anti-war and run them is that's obviously like what people want. Another key tell that Trump knows how lethal this whole thing is for him is that he erupted a few times on truth social over Iran. In one case, he raged that if Iran doesn't comply with the real agreement, all caps, then the shooting starts bigger and better and stronger than anyone has ever seen before.

He also tweeted that the U.S. military is looking forward to its next conquest. America is back and in another tweet he lashed out at the media for reporting on a fake 10 point plan.

But I think that's really kind of a critical tell. Trump knows it's absolutely deadly for him. If this enterprise is seen as a failure, if America is seen as in some sense a paper tiger.

So he's saying we're strong and mighty. We're ready to pulverize the next enemy. So stop thinking about what just happened. What do you think? I mean, it's going to fail. It's destined to fail. Like he. His ideology and Pete excess ideology is very obvious and very straightforward and fascistic, right? It's this notion that the only power that actually matters in the world is violence and that everything else is some BS that stupid liberals, you know, the idea of like soft power diplomatic power, the power persuasion, the power of diplomacy.

“That even to an certain extent economic power, or all illusions and that the only thing that matters is breaking kneecaps, right?”

Let's listen to one more CNN segment from Martry Taylor Green. She was asked about polling that shows that mega voters still support the war. Listen to what she said here.

The polling that I have seen is it's mainly the baby boomers Republicans that watch Fox News all day every day are the ones that are primarily mostly supporting this war in our ran. However, it's the majority of Americans, especially 50 and under, that do not support this war in our ran. And I would argue that it's if the baby boomer generation, my parent generation whom I love very much needs to think clearly about how a war in our ran could have long-term implications for their children and their grandchildren.

So, I mean, I thought that was a really striking message to mega and the Republican Party. She's basically saying that it's time to focus on the younger elements of the Trump coalition and more or less forget about the deadweight boomers, right? Isn't that what she's saying?

I mean, I wouldn't say she was going so far as to say that, but she's definitely saying that the boomers are not the future for sure.

This struck by that comment, too, because I literally was just watching Franklin rewatch for a piece that's going up its lawn tomorrow. I was rewatching Franklin Graham speech at CPAC a couple weeks ago, and he was basically justifying the Iran war by citing the hostage crisis of 1979.

“And I think that to a large extent, that's probably true for Donald Trump, too, that he sees this as revenge for the hostage crisis, which was experienced by baby boomers who were in their 30s, 20s and 30s at that time, as this great humiliation.”

But it doesn't mean anything to everyone who was born after that. Or was a child at that time? I was too when that happened, and I'm not a spring chicken. And I think that it's a kind of a very, it's interesting and a profound insight of hers that the kind of people that are willing to go along with this idea that Iran is this huge threat, and not even necessarily a geopolitical threat, but like a threat to like the American sense of self, are kind of only the people that remember the Iranian hostage crisis.

So just to tie this all together, where does this leave us? Marjorie Taylor Green, it turns out that her America first version of anti-war politics seems to have some actual substance to it, which is a real surprise to me.

“And I think probably J.D. Vance is sort of in that camp as well, but he's under the thumb of Donald Trump.”

And a lot of Republicans are still under the thumb of Donald Trump is the Republican Party going to be able to move to a post-Trump place where they're not kind of overshadowed by this Iran catastrophe and this sort of madness that we're seeing right now are not. I don't think in the near term, I will say that historically parties are pretty good at reinventing themselves or finding, I mean, obviously the magamovement is a re-evention of the GOP after the debacle of the Iraq war, I think is that's how history will remember it.

And it's not like Democrats are doing a much better job of redefining themselves right now, right? So it'll be interesting to see, but I honestly don't know what that would look like because they've exhausted this option.

And there's a lot of hunger for novelty in our politics right now, so we'll see.

You know, it occurs to me there's sort of a deep irony to this, which is that JD Vance wanted to be that person, he wanted to be the standard bearer for a form of populist republicanism that was in some sense genuinely opposed to foreign interventions and they told that takes on Americans. And because he decided that Donald Trump was the hammer to smash the liberal establishment and to, you know, prevent the Western, prevent Western civilization from succumbing to the horrors and the demons and all that, he's kind of screwed, he can't be that person.

“You know, he doesn't know it, but he's a dead man walking politically speaking. You love to see it, couldn't it happen to a nicer guy?”

Well, I sure hope you're right. Amanda Markot, pleasure to talk to you as always. Thanks so much for all those insights.

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