Words Matter: Is Trump America’s Greatest Criminal Mastermind?

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and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world. Hello, and welcome to DSR's Words Matter. I'm David Rothkoff, your host, who is here basically to elicit bits of wisdom and to help coax out whatever is necessary in the way of anger

and expiation from the Oracle of Washington, D.C. Norm, or in steam here on this Air of Morale Day, the eve of the Morale Day weekend. How are you, Mark? You know, the same David,

but I've had thrilled that we could introduce to our audience the word expiation. You know, part of the value added that we can bring is words that are not used very commonly,

and so people can now ask Siri or Google expiation.

Exactly, I talked to Siri all the time. Yeah. Other than you, she's my only friend. That's not true. Not true, not true.

No, there's also chatchipiti. You have a plethora of them. Because sometimes I said there was Siri, chatty, Claude. We have a little, you know,

exchange has been testing. What's nice about Siri is that if you call Siri a name, or use a profanity, Siri does respond and saying things like, that's not appropriate.

You know, my wife who, you know,

speaks seven languages,

“I think has been working on her Chinese for years.”

That she feels she really needs to practice it. And she practices Chinese with chatchipiti. And she, you know, she can do it while she's driving in the car and she'll say chatchipiti, let's have a conversation in Chinese.

And if I make a mistake correctly, and off she goes and she'll do a half an hour conversation in Chinese, with chatchipiti and it makes up interesting stuff. And it corrects her. It's kind of, you know,

I mean, I know all of the kind of died in blue, liberals, especially, you know, the Gen Zers who love this podcast. I think nothing good can come of it, and that I am, you know, sort of,

a vicious, vicious, progressive, because I think some good can come out of it. But I do like there's, there's some useful applications. I will say that I agree and disagree.

On the disagree front, AI is going to use up all of our water

“and triple or quadruple electricity prices,”

partly of course, because the idiots, nihilists and Philistines running the Trump administration are a visually destroying our main sources of electricity in particular wind and solar.

But that's another matter. On the other hand, just as an example, I've been noodling for quite a while on a piece, which I have called the three toxic parts of Trumpocracy.

We've talked about this a little bit before. Kakas,ocracy, nihilism, and kleptocracy. And I am finding that as I'm, you know, trying to fill out the number of examples, and this is going to be a long piece

that won't by any means be comprehensive. But I'm going to have probably 5,000 words that doesn't come close to covering all of the toxicity of these idiots. But as I, you know, start to go through what I already know,

I can turn to AI and say, give me additional examples of this kind of corruption. And I get the examples and then I can investigate them further, but it saves time. Does it?

But I want to think that leads people to have AI psychosis. Which is a real thing.

to make you feel smart.

So when you ask for this, is it going,

yeah, this pisses me off too, Norm. You're so right to be digging deeper. I'm actually, I've been using Gemini, rather than Chad G.P.T.

“But I will tell you that when we ask Chad G.P.T.”

about some complicated issues, medical issues involving my sister-in-law, a combination of different things. Chad G.P.T. came back with like a 16-page memo that was unbelievably comprehensive with sites and links,

places to go things to do, and it was pretty damn impressive. And the only hiccup is that she's now seeing a veteran there. I try not to rely too heavily,

and I try to trust but verify.

Put it there. Trust but verify. Okay, well let's get into some of the news of the week. And I'm going to ease into it, okay? Because I know there's certain things that are just going to send you off,

and you know I spoken to your cardiologist, and I know that I have to approach these things carefully.

“So let me start with something that seems a little soft,”

but to me, wasn't. Today, the DNC, which I don't know, is in the competition with the New York Mads for being the worst run organization I could think of, released a post-mortem on the 2024 campaign,

just in time to screw up everybody's conversations about everything else. And you know, a lot of it was what you would expect, finger pointing in this and that and both sides. But in it, if you go deep enough, in it there is a list of the amounts of money spent with different consultancies.

And I read this and I thought a holy fuck. Democratic consultants are making, not 10, hundreds of millions of dollars through their organizations to give terrible advice. Advice is like, you know, the advice that would have won the 1988 campaign,

but was use us in the 2024 campaign. And it's this giant establishment in Washington across the country that is taking the little donations of everybody out there and is using it to buy beach houses. And I have to say I read it and I was just live it.

And you understand this world better than I do.

“So I was wondering, do you think my validity is misplaced?”

Not in the slightest. I will say just stepping back for a minute that you'll recall after a particularly awful Republican loss, the then chairman of the Republican National Committee, Rites Priebus, did an autopsy,

which is not the term you really want to use about a party. Although in this case when it came to the Republican Party, it was perfectly accurate. The Republican Party died around that time. But I was happy to tell people that if you take the name Rites Priebus

and remove all the vowels, what you get is RNCBS. So I got a joke out of it at least. That's good. Having said that.

It's not accurate though, because there was a P in an R. Yeah, but go on. If you look at the DNC, we can't find a good joke out of it.

It's a bunch of bad jokes. But obviously they commissioned this. There is a long explainer and may it cope up from DNC chair Ken Martin, saying they wanted to look at what went wrong.

They commissioned it from a consultant. Of course. That it came back, not ready for prime time, including without sources.

And so we held it back, but now here it is. And it is going to result in a huge number of stories on one of the favorite things for journalists, Democrats and disarray.

Now I could criticize that by saying, there'll be more stories of Democrats and disarray

than Donald Trump's 1.776 billion dollar.

Trust a slush book. Oh, we'll get to that. But we'll get to that in a moment. But having said that, that doesn't mean these stories are inappropriate.

And I will say this is a scam that has been going on for a very long time. And a good part of the scam is,

for political candidates or a party.

“Not only do you get paid for producing the television ads,”

you get 15% off the top for the cost of broadcasting those ads. Right? So surprise, surprise,

most of these consultants, and it's not just the beach houses, but also give a shout out Mercedes-Benz and BMW dealerships. We're not doing so well.

Thanks to the consultants. They're fine. They pour all this money and tell their candidates it's still television advertising.

It's still broadcast television because they're pulling off a huge chunk of the cash from it. And the advice is

it's a little bit like financial advisors

who tell you you got to invest in this product and they're getting a 25% commission. And of course, it's a conflict of interest.

“It's just a direct conflict of interest.”

But who are the victims here? They're not the candidates who should know better. They're the people who give the money to the campaigns. And boy, if I were advising a candidate right now, pro bono,

I would say when you're out soliciting money, tell your potential donors that you're not going to be driven by a high-priced political consultants who will take your money

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for the DSR network.com/by. Thank you, and enjoy the show. Yeah, although you know Norm, you know,

we've been Washington a while. Yeah. We've been a Washington a while. And we know some stuff. We know the stuff these people do.

“And when I'm looking at the amount of money”

that some of these people may offer this, I'm thinking, they are schmucks. Because oh,

I'd like, they give terrible advice and made tens of millions of dollars. We could give mediocre advice, and I would charge half that.

I have a feeling that the DSR political consulting network is in the offing. Yeah. Words matter associates. (laughs)

But I mean, it's just crazy. It's absolutely crazy. All right, and I put it off for too long.

Everybody's like, okay, the most corrupt thing that ever happened in the history of the United States happened this week.

And I'm literally there are tens of thousands of people out there like, I want to see Norm's aneurysm. I want to see Norm react to this. Because I don't think I'm overstating it.

What happened with this, and I do want to be clear here. The media calls it a settlement and a deal. It's not. Because there was no case.

This is Trump negotiating with himself. And it is just grand theft US Treasury. It is just people steal in our money. So don't dress it up like these are legitimate. When the Trump gets an agreement,

and it says, you know, US Department of Justice on the top, but then it says, you know,

he'll be held harmless for all tax claims forever. That's illegal. So it's not a real document. Now, somebody's going to have to go and challenge it according to it.

But I don't want to go into this with the misconception that what's happened was illegal. I just want to take it from the perspective, this is a big fucking huge crime

that occurred before our very eyes. And would have, in my view, resulted in the instant impeachment and removal of any other president in our history.

And, and I just don't get why it has it. I agree, totally with that.

it has no legal or constitutional value.

Having, and let's add, the perpetrator of this, no doubt, even though he said Trump had no role

at the urging of Trump, this Todd Lange, the acting attorney general. I've known people,

“I've had people tell me that they had worked”

with Todd Lange back when he was, and assisted US attorney. I believe with the, with the Southern District of New York, who said that he was,

you know, very smart and very diligent and a good attorney. He is turned into a disgraceful monster. And I have little doubt that the assault

that the Trump administration is now making

on the Bar Association's. Is aimed in significant part and intimidating them from doing what they should be doing, because this isn't just about

impeaching and removing the president. It's about disbarring a rogue, monstrous acting attorney general, doing utterly illegal and unconstitutional things

and in your face about them. Now, if you look at this so-called settlement, and it is not a settlement, you're right,

it's grand theft. It is, it's not even just that they've taken, first of all lying saying, you know,

“we tried to look at what all of the different”

damages should be and came up to roughly 1.8 billion.

And then made it 1.776 billion

for the obvious reasons. It has nothing to do with anything real it has to do with theft. But they've also, as you said,

barred any involvement by the IRS in the past, in the future, on any crimes committed by Trump or his family,

which they cannot do. And boy, if I were an incoming democratic president in 2029, and talking to candidates for attorney general,

one of the first things I would do is make sure that there is a commitment to undo this, corrupt burden immediately, to begin to look into what crimes

Trump and his family have committed against the IRS. And we know we have from the past, double dealing and flated values here, deflated values there,

all of that stuff, and clawback, whatever money went out. Except that, we also know that they've set this up

so that none of it will be public. There will be five members for them appointed by Trump, basically by Blanche, and able to be removed

without cause by Trump.

“So we know that not only is he going to direct”

who gets this taxpayer bribery slush fund, but we also will not know how much he's skimming off for himself and for his family, but there's two other elements

to this that I want to discuss. The first is that it's going to be really difficult to get standing to sue and handle this in the courts.

And Steve Flatic, who is the Supreme Court whisperer and really the go-to guy when it comes to anything involving the court. And a very thoughtful column today saying,

we can't count on the courts in this case to rescue us. This is a political matter and it ought to be resolved by impeaching this president,

whether he's removed or not. And I have been reluctant to go for impeaching Trump right now because it's not going to succeed, but also it gives them traction

to fight back. I want to do impeach cabinet members and others. I'd impeach Todd Blanch right now. I'd impeach RFK Jr.

and Pete Higgsith and Marco Rubio and the list goes on and on. But now you've got to impeach Trump over this because you get a privileged resolution

and debate in Congress and I want everyone to have to vote on whether they're going to support this utterly corrupt and outrageous action. So that's one thing.

Maybe, and I'm hoping, we have two of the former police officers who were beaten on January 6th during the insurrection who are now suing

It's hard to imagine anybody else

“given that the court system is structured”

to keep this stuff from being dealt with. But we've got to do it through whatever means we can and impeachment now is and has to be on the table.

But the second part of this is

this is not just to reward the violent insurrectionist seditious conspirators, cop killers, pedophiles and sexual molesters

who broke into and defiled the capital and tried to hang the vice president. This is a down payment for future thuggery on their part.

And one of the things that really worries me is we're going to have proud boys, oath keepers, and other assorted thugs

who will be sent out on election day to incite violence to try and alter the terms of the election and they might do it anyhow but they're going to do it in part

with the promise of big bucks

dangled in front of them for doing whatever Donald Trump wants them to do.

“And the promise that if they got cross lines”

they will be pardoned. The level of corruption here is one thing. The level of what it can produce in terms of overthrowing our constitutional system

and blowing up an election. That's another and even more chilling. It absolutely is. And you know, when people I wrote an article about it in the Daily Beast

and I love working for the Daily Beast and everything but somebody put in the headline the word "grift." And I'm like, "No, this isn't grift." You know, this is something

beyond even corruption. We have to use language that is the appropriate language about the scale of these crimes. What these people are doing is back a truck

up to the U.S. Treasury taking out money tax paid dollars and using it to pay off criminals who attempted a coup against the United States. They're trying to use tax dollars

“to pay for overthrowing our own government.”

This crime is so heinous that it makes, you know, Watergate will click a walk in the park and it's so impressive. I think you would take watergate

and multiply it times T-pop, dome, times everything that was ever done by Tammy Hall, times everything

that the Gotti family has never did.

This is that great crime against the United States. And if we treat it like it's a deal, they break the system too bad.

Or we treat it like it's like Trump stakes and Trump phones and Trump coins, then we're missing the point of what is going on here. And it's why your point about impeachment

is so important. There is no other choice. I do think it's important and I'd love your reaction to this, but I do think it's important

that people recognize this is not covered by the Supreme Court's immunity granted the president because it is explicitly forbidden.

It therefore cannot be considered an official act and the president has no immunity against prosecution for this. He may think he does, but he's wrong.

And there is, however, an option for him, which is harder for us to deal with. And that's pardon it. And the ability to pardon himself and his family

to pardon Blanche for all the crimes associated with this. Now there's some debate about whether or not you can pardon yourself. But there is one thing that blocks the pardon power, that the pardon power can't be used

against, and that's impeachment. The impeachment is treated as a class unto itself in the constitution. And that's where we have to recognize

they raise the stakes. They raise the degree of the crimes. And they are making it that there is no other choice for anybody who wants to protect the country

than to do what you just said. Absolutely true, and let's make another point here, which is, in a broader sense,

Trump keeps trying to go further in terms of open, corruption, and horrible actions. And every time he does one,

it's not going up to the line. It's leaping over the line and creating a new line then leaping over that one.

to do the next one and to do more. And he will keep doing so until something stops him. Great. And if anybody who believes,

if he gets away with this one, that this is the last time that he'll use this toy, is naive to put it mildly. So imagine that he gets away with this,

and then what happens in another few months, he sues the national archives because of the damage done to him over the stolen

classified documents. If you notice today, after his, one of his favorite clients, or favorite lawyers,

for whom he is a client. That is the case with Todd Latch.

“It's also the case with Judge Aileen Cannon,”

who took the only report of this sort on from Jack Smith. On the utterly open illegal acts, we have the pictures of classified documents and stacked up at Marolago.

We know we have evidence of the Wazoo. She took it, said, "No, you can't prosecute him now after immunity." And no, we're not going to release the report,

because it could damage the president. And one of the people who had been working with Jack Smith, apparently took a copy of that report. And, you know,

was holding on to it, perhaps,

so that it could never be completely destroyed,

and it's now being prosecuted for it. And we know what they're trying to do. They're trying to open the door for him to do this again. So he will sue the National Archives

for another $10 billion and settle that for another $2 billion

“and use it for even more of his slush funds.”

Everything that he does is corruption, but let's add David that it's not just Donald Trump, who sees taxpayer money as a personal piggy bank for their own wealth

and luxuries. It is cash-potel using taxpayer money on his jets. It is Christy Known who purchased these luxury jets

with bedrooms for her own pleasure with her assistant and said that they were for transporting

people to be taken out of the country for illegal immigrants as if they're going to be going on luxury luxury Gulfstream jets and they're still around

and being used for those purposes. And then bumping the Coast Guard commander from the home that has long been

“the residents of the commander of the Coast Guard”

using it for herself to stay there as a squatter even after she was removed from that position. And you could go on and on

about the use of luxuries using taxpayer money for officials in this government because if they see Trump getting away with it, they know that it's open season

for them to get away with it as well.

We have never seen anything

even close to resembling this. Well, I think you're being too kind. Well, I'm in a charitable mood too. Yeah, well, and I think that's lovely. It's the beginning of a holiday week and everybody should

benefit from that, but let's be honest. Donald Trump by all independent accounts has made hundreds of millions, possibly billions of dollars since he returned to the presidency last year

and he's done it in some of the most outrageous ways possible that makes what Christy Nome and these others done seem ridiculous. His sons are cutting contracts with the Department of Defense.

His sons are cutting deals with governments around the world to build hotels. One government gave him a $400 million airplane for his use, which is then going to be transferred to what, to his library

so that he will effectively have personal control over it from now on. And you can't leave that without noting

that they then spent $1.2 billion

in taxpayer money to refurbish it. Right, so he will get the benefit of the taxpayer money over a billion dollars. When the US government went into Venezuela illegally throughout the government

kidnapped its leader and started illegally demanding payments by oil tanker, the money went into a bank account in a foreign country controlled by Donald Trump when the Gaza solution, which was not a solution,

billions of dollars went into a board of peace that is chaired by Donald Trump who will determine how those dollars get allocated,

including over a billion dollars of US taxpayer money.

In case, after case, after case, and frankly, as we have talked about here, we do not know how much has gone into Trump or Trump family accounts in crypto because we can't trace all of that, right?

And they are lifting up crypto markets from a regulatory perspective to ensure that all this, you know, that they have siphoned off maintains its value and its liquidity. So in area after area, after area,

Donald Trump, Donald Trump's kids and also the kids of Steve Whitkoff and the family of Howard Lutnic and other people in this government are making unbelievable killings.

“And then they're saying, "Well, this is secret.”

You can't reveal this. There's a non-disclosure here. We're going to shred the records. We're going to hide what's going on. We will never know.

But the fact of the matter is, and look, I just want to last thing. I'm sorry going. But you know, we're talking about what happened with regard to this

overt effort to steal two billion dollars

from the United States and use some of it to pay off criminals that attacked the government. But just a couple of days before a report came out that said that Donald Trump has been doing something like 40 stock trades a day

trading millions and millions, hundreds of millions of dollars and in identifiable regular ways doing so to capitalize on his actions as president of the United States,

which in and of itself is the most corrupt act we've ever seen of a president, like getting the airplane,

“the most corrupt act we've ever seen of a president,”

like siphoning off the Venezuelan money, the most corrupt act, any one of these things is the most corrupt act and this is a pattern.

And the reason I bring it up is just

to underscore your point. Every time they see an opening, they take it and if they get enough out of it, they do it again and again. And you will see this with the Trump library

being turned into a hotel and him making money off of that naming airports after him and giving him the naming rights and the property rights of the swagger

in area after area after area, we're being stolen from by a president who actually is doing nothing for the country, except giving gifts to his friends in terms of tax cuts and regulatory cuts

and taking services away from the people who need it who are dying. You know, we have Ebola, we can't stop it

because we took the money away from it. We have nuclear waste in this country. We can't protect it because we fired the people who protect nuclear waste

how fucking crazy is this. I don't know, sorry, sorry, you were very good. No, you're very good. And charitable,

but it's just got me wound up. Well, certainly as it should, but be careful, you know, at our age, you want to, you know,

you don't want too much to get a gym.

“It's that's why I go to the gym every day.”

Yeah. No, I can be this pissed off. But let's add to this. This is, it's not just sort of finding these ways

and manipulating. It's using thuggery to accomplish some of them. We now know from some digging and reporting that the reason that the Palm Beach board

changed the name of the airport to the Donald Trump airport. And gave him exclusive rights to market merchandise surrounding this is because they were threatened

with actions that would damage Palm Beach by the president or one of his henchmen to be able to do this. They're using the coercive power of the state

to shake down entities to help them get ahead. And of course, they're also using the grasping of these lickspittals out there

to try and carry favor with him to give him something more. So we know that his library,

is going to be built on a very large

and expensive plot of land that has been owned by Miami-Dade Community College, which is one of the most prestigious community colleges in the country.

And they gave him this plot of land

“worth many, many millions for ten bucks.”

And he's using it not just for the library, but for a hotel and probably a casino would be my guess or other things associated with it. And whether they did that

because they're trying to curry favor with him

or because the appointees,

almost all of whom were put in place by Ron DeSantis, is DeSantis trying to gain favor for whatever ambitious purposes he thinks will work on that regard.

This is a crime family operating as president of the United States and building the rest of us for their gain and for the gain of their cronies, thugs, and henchmen, and women.

That's where we are. That's where we are, America, on Memorial Day. The president, Mark Memorial Day today, by saying that he was pleased

that only 13 people have gotten killed in the war so far. That he got a kick out of that. Only 13. This is the pro-life president.

Yeah, first of all, the numbers

probably a lot, as we've found out with most of these numbers. But Trump has a long history

“of revealing his contempt for the military.”

And I am sure it will manifest itself again this weekend. By the way, did you know it? We've got to go. But did you know that Trump

was asked whether it was going to go to his son's wedding this weekend? It was like, well, I have a lot of things. It was like, well, there's this thing called Iran. I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it.

This is a thing called Gulf. It's not Gulf. It's Gulf. It's got what? What?

What? Just what? A piece of separating odious, o-diferous, nasty, fly-covered, excrement.

There we go. Our present. Our present. Very good. Yes.

It's just a way. Anyway, look, Norm. I hope you have a great Memorial Day weekend. You, everybody. I hope you have a great Memorial Day weekend.

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