Words Matter: What to Do When Trump Tries to Steal the Next Election

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“Hello and welcome to DSR's Words Matter, I am David Rothkough and I'm here to talk.”

As we do every week with our friend, the wise, the sensitive, you know, seeing and all knowing form, orange stain, who apparently has his own theme music for the county cruise. You like D.C. You like county cruise very much.

Is that what you listen to for relaxation? I have a pretty long playlist that includes a wide variety of artists. I'll just share a few because I'm sure that people out there want to say I would like normal playlists.

I will tell you first the artists I know who I love not just because I know them, but

it helps. One is Nils Lofgren, who is one of the absolute greatest guitarists of all time, but also just a great musician and his own right with my friend Neil Young and Crazy Horse, but known far more widely for his work with Bruce Springsteen. And I listened to both of them as I listened to a lot of Neil Young.

Lucy Keplansky, lovely wonderful singer songwriter, Dar Williams, another fantastic singer songwriter, the two of them along with Richard Shindell have a group that doesn't perform together very much. They've got at least a terrific album, they're called Cry Cry Cry. I listened to a lot of county cruise, I like Maggie Rogers, I love Johnny Mitchell.

I could go on for the entire podcast, but I think that's good enough.

“No, I think it's important for people to notice this, but as Spike Jones, let me guess.”

No, no, no, it's more in the vein of sort of red hot chili peppers, that kind of thing. Well, they're damn good, actually, but at any event, it's sort of green day, kind of mind

these stuff, but here's what I wanted to start with.

Because I was thinking back on some of our past podcasts, which, you know, people love you, so it's kind of among the most popular podcasts we ever did. And there's one thing that like two months ago or three months ago used to say all the time besides licks, but you say licks, but a lot. But this was, you know, you did, this was a while back, and I was like, what is he going

on about? And I would never criticize you because I revered you, you know, but you were like, you would say, well, you know, we're all going to get hysteria because nobody is, nobody's inspecting the food supply anymore.

“And I would go, what does he talk about with?”

I mean, you know, we're not going to get the hysteria. So now everybody has explosive diarrhea or has some internet lag put it, Trump or Rhea, which I hope we wish we could get that to get a jot. And I just have got to say, tip of the hat, their norm, tip of the hat, you saw this when coming and duct, I hope, but you saw this when, well, I actually have thought that

if we need a name for the Trump era, explosive diarrhea fits just so well. Exactly. If we need it a name for our band, you and I go out on the rug. Oh, yeah. It's a good name for a band.

It is. It is. I mean, there are bands, radsid, garbage, this takes it to the next level. Yeah. And we could do a double bill, which would really be appropriate with the dead Kennedys,

although we would be referring to the live Kennedy who's behind this whole thing. Yes. Who, I mean, really, you know, we could be referring to the people he has affected. Kennedys dead. Yeah.

And that's going to be a growing number because we're not, you know, we, we've got ridden of the people who, you know, inspect for these things.

And now, you know, like everybody I know, they're like, no, I'm not in any vegetables.

“I'm not, I'm not, I'm not having lettuce.”

I'm not having berries. I'm not having stuff because this is a really, really nasty thing out there. And it's just one because of course, there's been outbreaks of tuberculosis. There've been outbreaks of measles that've been outbreaks of all these horrible things. And, you know, because there's a war with Iran and the president's going to end democracy tonight.

People are paying much attention, but it's, it's astonishing. And one should also notice, long as we're on the subject of RFK, Junior, that he now wants

to spend just about a third of the CDC's budget that is used to look into and prevent

horrible diseases to go on this ridiculous quest to find the link between vaccines and autism,

“where we've had study after study after study, showing that there is no link.”

But he is so driven by his brainworm, cocaine sniffing off toilet seat paranoia that he wants to destroy our remaining capacity to deal with serious diseases, to go off on this, it's too kind to call it a quick-sodic venture. But this ridiculous misuse of taxpayer money for no good purpose except a pernicious one. Well, you know, it's an interesting thing and there's a pattern here because, you know,

there is massive amounts of evidence that vaccines don't cause autism. I mean, as we know, vaccines have been used for hundreds of years, the person who's ruled that our soldiers should be vaccinated, that was overturned by Pete Hedt, was George Washington, right? But they seem to have problems with evidence.

And, you know, it's sort of echoes to me that have been hearing this week with this guy who's been nominated to be the Director of National Intelligence Clay Clayton and people are saying, and I thought John Ossoff did a pretty good job with this, you know, who won the 2020 election? Or why do you say, why do you intervene in election saying there's election fraud when

there is no evidence of election fraud? All of these things, the 2020 elections and election fraud have been studied over and over again, by Republicans, by Democrats, by states, by cities, by the federal government, by newspapers, there is no evidence of it, but just like there's no evidence of the connection between autism and vaccines, they're like, well, sorry, if, if evidence

is what gets in our way, then we're just going to dispose of it and continue on. And I just, you know, we're going to have a speech from the president tonight, part of the speech is going to be about election fraud, where there is no evidence, he's going to

“make some shit up, he's going to say that, you know, there, we have some secret intelligence”

and I can't tell you what it is, but we have, but the reality is these guys are, if they

seem to be allergic to facts, or allergic. This is nothing new, David, and we should point out that the war on science and facts goes back to Newt Gingrich at least, one of his goals, which he was able to accomplish when the Republicans took the majority in the 1994 election, was to eliminate the office of technology assessment in the, uh, house.

The office of technology assessment was the base of experts and expertise in Congress. They didn't want facts because facts went against their fervent ideology and theology. And the war has been going on in a continues and it includes, of course, the war on public education and all levels at the elementary and secondary level, what they're now doing with the war against universities, what they're doing with the war against American history,

all of those things. I want to add one other element, though, as long as we're on the topic of autism. I know, as you do, I am sure, as almost everybody does, autistic kids, families with autistic kids. They are on the spectrum, the spectrum ranges pretty widely. I've mentioned

The debate camp that we do for public school kids in the Washington DC area, they learn

“debate, they learn life skills, they go on to enormous success. One of our debateers who's”

graduated and is going off to Barnard College next year. But came back this week because she just wanted to hang out with the other kids in the varsity kids. Her name is Daniela. She

brought delicious cupcakes for all of the kids the first day. She is autistic. She was a star

debater. She's featured in the documentary we did immutable, go to immutablefilm.com. She is a remarkable, lovely young woman who didn't speak until she was five, whose mother, single mother, didn't tell her. She was autistic. She was just a shame to early on,

“until she found her daughter in her early teens, researching autism on the internet.”

And now this woman, young woman, is going off to college and I have no doubt is going to have

a successful career in life. I know plenty of others who are that way. If you haven't watched

all of those listening are watching, love on the spectrum, which is on Netflix, started in Australia then came to the United States. It's a lovely set of stories about people who are on the spectrum but want what everybody else wants. They want love. They want stability. They want success. And I mention all of this because the vile RFK junior who now has the responsibility for special education because they transferred it over from the education department, which they're trying to

destroy even though legally they can't. Has said autistic people will never have jobs. They'll

never contribute to the society. The vileness of this is just unspeakable and that's where we are,

“ignoring all the evidence but portraying people as not human enough. And that's what we have in this”

administration and of course we see that playing out with ice, with the border patrol, with almost everything that comes from the horrible monstrous people who are now running the executive branch and unleashed thanks to a Supreme Court that has gone rogue. I'm sorry to interrupt but I really have to tell you about our sub-stack. The DSR network of sub-stack is the absolute best way to follow deep state radio. The DSR daily words matter need to know silicaciousness,

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Thank you and back to the show. But that's not what you're saying. Including people who were challenged in different ways but also people from different backgrounds, gay people, Jewish people, people of color, Romani people. You know, as it happens the other day I watched and I actually wrote a sub-stack about this

on Sunday. People can't go and read. I watched the movie judgment at Nuremberg. It's a really good movie, 1961 movie. And it was a fictionalized version of the Nuremberg trials but it really goes down to the case of an individual who was a good judge played by Bert Lankaster who then is part of, you know he's a German judge and he ends up making a bunch of decisions that send people

speech in the middle of it which I've ran in my sub-stack need to know but but if the speech in the speech what he does is he says you know we thought that these were isolated cases we thought that ultimately Hitler would go away but Hitler was successful beyond his wildest dreams and the cases added up and you know the conclusion that the judge spends a crazy comes away with

“is one life is what matters because once you stop caring about one life once you've other”

one person you're on the slippery slope it's what takes you to six million and you know we

in the United States we minimize this but three or four people have been killed this week by ice not because they did anything wrong but because they were brown we've got other people in this country we're being targeted in the way that you're talking about it we've got people around the world who are being targeted by this administration people are being denied the ability to be to seek asylum here and and we're not sort of echoing what was done

we're doing exactly what was done and and nobody wants to admit that we're doing exactly what

“was done but but I got to tell you and I'd like you to then pick up on this next point of this”

you know it is very clear that Donald Trump was going to get on the television tonight many people may watch this after he got on the television but he's going to get on the television he's going to talk about election fraud of which there is no evidence and he's going to lay the case that he ought to be able to get involved because the states aren't doing a good enough job this is also a page out of the playbook of authoritarian's this is also a step in the direction

that these countries went down this is as I said it's not an abstraction we're there it's happening and we're just too good at rationalizing it and saying oh it's a little like what

“dude Gingrich did or oh it's a little like something that happened 40 years ago it's a little”

like politics but it's not it's different what's happening now absolutely true and I want to pick up on a lot of those points few years back my my wife and I went to Germany and Poland and we went to a lot of different sites their museums there that point out that before the Germans before the Nazis went after Jews they went after people with mental disabilities and physical disabilities now part of this was an extension of what was one of the glorious periods of our history

and others eugenics was the notion that we ought to sterilize people who are not pure like us but it was an early part of a systematic effort to define certain groups of people as less than human to justify starting with sterilizing them but then moving to gassing and murdering them

and it was 6 million Jews but there were people with disabilities what they then called cripples

there were those who had mental illnesses there were as you said the gypsies the Romani there were many other groups as well and it starts with identifying them as less than human and treating them as less than human and if you look at the shootings of this past week people who were not targeted and you're right it was because of their color but it was uh gangs of ice people who one of their own admitted get a adrenaline rush out of a car chase followed by a shooting and uh they saw

somebody in a van saw that they looked Hispanic chase them shot them in cold blood and then lied about it and briefly after we saw the beginning of a backlash and that was particularly true in Maine uh and of course we can't help but note as an aside here that they're a little worried about Susan Collins they need her for their majority Susan Collins is the chair of the Appropriations

Committee she was responsible for the $70 billion going to ice that they're able to have

through the remainder of this presidency not done on a yearly appropriation which is very unusual

they lied that they didn't have body cameras they did they just didn't turn them on they said okay

“we're gonna stop the car chases and then less than a day later Donald Trump says oh no we're not”

we're back to having the car chases these are tactics that come right out of Nazi Germany it is looking at people you don't like the way they look you shoot them you beat them up you arrest them you take them off and that includes citizens plenty of examples of citizens and once you start down that path and start down the slippery slope it does not end easily

or well and that's where we are right now and of course part of the problem is that there's

so much else going on that this stuff we become dead into it and we can never become dead into this remember a week or two ago and it's not just ice in the border patrol it's also in many places out of control cops a woman falsely accused at a Walmart of shoplifting diapers actually she'd paid for them driving out of the parking lot followed by police who shot her one year old infant in the car while they were pulling away it is insane that these sorts of things

“happen and rarely are their consequences for them but you know I think the other thing about it”

and you know there's a lot going on so maybe the news media doesn't have the chance to connect the dots but we are connecting the dots here you connect the dots between what RFK Jr is doing and what Steven Miller is doing more barquane mullin is doing I think the intervention of trumping this delivers an important message which is he's involved he wants this to happen it's not it's not it's not somebody down the food chain but it is happening everywhere in the government there's some

examples that seem a little bit distant and their other examples that seem ridiculous but they are all connected let me give you three or four of them just off the bat you this week you had them changing a display in Philadelphia so that they could rewrite history so they could you know rewrite away the idea that people had slaves because they don't want that in they're making a move to go and rewrite history in the Smithsonian institution at the department of defense which is run by one of the great

idiots of our time I Pete Higgs just looked at the list of people to be promoted women and blacks

and said I'm we're not going to promote the women to be addinels their generals first time in

recent memory that there's no woman on the promotion list we're not promoting blacks he's kicked out almost a thousand years worth of military experience why because they're women and blacks and they don't fit the image of what these people want our government to serve which is white

“Christian males and if you don't think that's what he wants you all you have to do is look at this”

most idiotic development recently which is Pete Higgs at yesterday saying that anybody over 30 at the Pentagon is going to get a testosterone test and if they don't have high enough testosterone levels then they're going to have to take supplements or injections and you know I mean the side from the fact that this is idiotic throne medical point of view and idiotic from a military point of view I think you also need to say oh they're othering women they're

othering people of color they're othering people from history they're editing our history this is the Nazi playbook this is happening every single day and people get numb towards like Nazi and they go oh well this is not like the Nazis it is it it is how many people do you want to have dead

you know before you say it's like the Nazis do you want it to be the million who died during

COVID because they didn't believe in science do you want it to be the million that have already died around the world because they didn't believe in aid to brown people or the seven or eight or nine million more that are going to die of that do you want it to be the thousands who are going to die because of diseases tonight to them or food that's tonight to them or medical help that's denied to them how many people have to die how many people have to suffer because of the

like that and let's take the analogy to another level which is so many of these detention camps

“run by private prison groups like the geogroup which had been accused before of human trafficking”

credibly accused we had an example this past week and afghan here under asylum who for years had risked his life to help the united states when we were in afghanistan came here under asylum got arrested was being hauled off his wife said please take his asthma inhaler they refused the next day he died he died because he didn't have his inhaler they did not care

when you look at anytime we're finding now that thanks to some judges that are allowing

members of congress into these concentration camps because that's the law and for a long time they ignore the law in this administration the conditions are horrific including kids whose lives

“will be traumatized as long as they are there they are conditions that are not much different than”

concentration camps hardly any food maggot infested food often denied water one toilet for hundreds of people this is right out of the playbook you know my guess is that there are people in goulocks in Siberia who would look at this and say who thank goodness we have had better than they do that's the world we're living in right now that's the country we're living in right now and how long it will take if somehow miraculously is speech tonight trying to trigger

destroying and stealing the next election now that they know they're in big trouble if we can overcome that and somehow get back to sane governance we're going to be just like

“the family in Los Angeles then had its house completely destroyed in the fires”

being told okay now you can move back but what they have is a lot filled with debris and ashes and it's not going to be something you can move back to for a very long time that's the problem even in a larger sense that if we overcome all of this they have done so much damage burning down the house that it is going to take us decades to overcome it and of course not just decades to overcome that there was a very good interview in the New York Times today that David French did

with my former colleague who I admire a great deal Cory Shocking who's runs defense and foreign policy at the American Enterprise Institute and Cory was talking about the war between Russia and Ukraine and about how long it's going to be before we can restore any ability for the United States to play a constructive role in the world and that one of the problems is that because with NATO and with our allies we have managed to coordinate if there's ever a need for warfare

keeping the intelligence the army the navy the Air Force all coordinated into a unit that's gone for the rest of our allies they're building their own defense capacity as they should but it means that if we face a common threat at a time when the U.S. wants to be involved with other countries we're going to have a much harder time of it and who is going to what other countries is going to respect us sharing their intelligence sharing their sensitive

methods and sources when they know that maybe in three years or four years these same horrible people will be back again and turn it all over to Russia or China.

Yeah and as you know Cory was one of our regulars here for the first 10 years of deep state

radio and I respect her a lot but you know it goes to some deep ratios that people don't like to talk about that Republicans talk about but of course they're distorting it you know the country was founded Washington Jefferson Adams Madison Hamilton they all wrote about how important the character

were in a democracy and you know that seems like kind of soft stuff but the reality is this

“the constitution is kind of short it doesn't pro put set all the guidelines that it needs”

a lot of it depends on the character of the people who are elected and we have gotten into an era in which we are too quick to write it all whether it's with trump and Republicans or gray and platinum or or people make strange calculations you know they say well there's no difference between the parties Hillary is the same as trump comma Harris is the same as trump but these Hillary and comma Harris are moral titans compared to trump they're just certain things they

would never do they would not steal like he does they would not turn their back on the needy like

he does they would not ignore the law like he does they would not ignore the law like Todd Blanch who is currently you know up to be the attorney general of the United States does

“and you know I think we've got to go back to basics and when you're looking at a candidate you”

got to say who is this what is their character are they a good person would they you know behave in a bad way we talked last week you know we talked about are there any Republicans that you could you know for seeing a decent president and and the issue is are there

any people out there who know the difference between right and wrong and who won't do the wrong

thing and I know that sounds like a Sunday school sermon but we we're completely off the track norm you're spot on and you're absolutely right and of course the framers knew that there was a danger of somebody of bad character moving into a position of leadership and they tried to construct a system to build guardrails to keep that from happening or to keep it if somebody did get into that position from being able to seize enough power to distort

“the political system to fit his own ends and that's what the Supreme Court has now shredded”

among other things but you know when I would teach American government I would say one of my early classes the constitution the laws those are like the exoskeleton of a political system the norms the values the character of the individuals that's the tendons and the ligaments put up an exoskeleton put up a human being eliminate the tendons and the ligaments and what happens the exoskeleton collapses and what we have seen over the last few decades even circling back

to the war on science and facts is that the norms have been shredded and you know I watched a good part of the hearings this week before we had the hearings with Jay Clayton who's a joke and another lickspedal to go back to that term and Todd Blanche who made the Freudian slip when he was asked by John Kennedy are you friends with Donald Trump he said I'm his lawyer I'm his lawyer before he realized what he said and then said I was his lawyer he is his lawyer

he didn't take an oath to the constitution as an effect what he's saying he took an oath to Donald Trump but before that I watched the hearings with two Supreme Court justices Amy Coney Barrett, Elena Cagan in the House and Senate where they were in front of appropriations subcommittees because they're trying to get money for the Supreme Court and the courts more generally and one of the things they're trying to get is the ability to have their own security

right now the security for the Supreme Court justices runs through the U.S. Marshall's office which is part of the Department of Justice and relying on that with this administration and no thank you but I watched as Elena Cagan was asked about the ethics of the Supreme Court and she said well you know we passed a code of ethics for the Supreme Court it's a unique body but she said we have no enforcement mechanism and we've got to do you know that has to happen we need an enforcement

reading what I've written about this because I want an independent group and Barrett said nothing

“now we know that the norms including corruption are gone from the Supreme Court as well”

you see what Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas have done what Brett Cavanagh we still don't know who paid off the huge debt that he had before he was nominated to the bench we know that Neil Gorsuch had a house that he co-owned with others that didn't sell anywhere and as soon as he was nominated for the Supreme Court it sold at a premium price all of that and then you I's another story today Trump's longtime teleprompter operator apparently has

made $100,000 trading in stocks based on Trump's speeches and probably what Trump told them

now that should be both a firing offense and he should be taken to court for it nothing will happen

“and polymarket and calcium betting also apparently but all of the defense firms where the”

Trump kids have made major investments suddenly getting huge contracts which probably means undermining our national defense even more so that they can make even more money we have people across this administration of horrible character it's hard to find any of them with a semblance of character from Howard not lick to Scott Vicent to Chris Wright to Sean Duffy

you could name every cabinet member all of those in the White House they are evil people

and they're unleashed now with a level of power because the checks and balances have been taken away by John Roberts and his cronies yeah because nobody cares about what's right and wrong anything and you know that sounds pretty basic but that's really that's really what our press core yes they don't call it out and they don't you know they don't use the right language you know they say they say a lie is a you know something other than a lie but you know by the way this week

AOC and and Jamie Raskin and some others have put forth a bill to a block gifts to the Supreme Court so there are some some things of foot but before we go let's say we have three or four five minutes the president is good to give a speech or maybe he gave a speech depending on my near listening to this and it is all part of a very concerted effort on the part of the president to raise doubts about our elections to allow him for national security reasons

“to intervene because states really control elections but I think he thinks the way in his”

national security reasons and I think it's the beginning of a push it's you know it's the end of July almost so that gives you August September October and then we're into the elections I think Donald Trump is deeply afraid of the election outcomes because of the polls there's a washing post story right now talking about him being mired in the 30s and his approval rating but I also think he's afraid of the results because of all the wholesale crime that is being

done in his administration right now and I think they're afraid of being held to account but my question for you is say say you listen to this speech and you're you know a person and you're afraid now that the president's gonna go after free and fair elections in this country what do you do so there's this is a clear and present danger I as you know have thought for a long time after they snatched Maduro in his wife out of Venezuela that they would cut a deal with him

where he would end up getting either no sentence or a lesser sentence or a cushy jail in return for an affidavit saying that Venezuela interfered in the 2020 elections we know that there have been talks inside the justice department about a plea bargain we also know that it's probably not going to happen right away in part because Todd Blanche is up to his eyeballs in this and this would not be a good look before a confirmation but we also know just hasn't happened yet so here's

what I'm expecting and it may still be that he'll mention Venezuela but we know when he sent

then he is gonna build this speech around Georgia and say that the Chinese interfered that they

“mocked up the voting machines that they're back at it and we have to do what we can to protect the”

election and if necessary he will use his emergency powers I have to tell you David I watched the other night a PBS special one like they did in the past when the law professor Arthur Miller would run these little round tables and this was on the threat to elections and they had you know a pretty distinguished group of people they used a hypothetical example a made up state they had Chris Christie

there as the governor of the state they had the lieutenant governor of Utah as the secretary of state

there they had Claire McCaskel as the mayor of the largest city and a part of the scenario was that the justice department had obtained a search warrant excuse me to go into the polling

“places on election day and what should they do about it and the judgment of this group to cut”

to the chase was we've got to use the courts and so one scenario was that at the last minute the well the FBI were outside with justice department lawyers ready to seize the ballot boxes

somebody came up with a restraining order saying they couldn't do it and when the question

was asked well shouldn't we have people intervene shouldn't we have the state and the city protect these polling places know that would be confrontational we have to rely on the courts and my reaction as I watched that was what the fuck and it was and that was literally my reaction as I shouted at my television set one if you think Donald Trump and his justice department would go for a search warrant instead of just seizing going into seize these missions or doing an administrative

warrant which is meaningless but which they now use with ice I don't know what planet you're living on and if you think that if somebody came out with a court order saying no you can't have these that they wouldn't go in and seize them and then say later on okay we're returning them but who knows what they would what balance they would have taken out if they even did that because he had time to launch yesterday going well the court has said this about the slush fund agreement but I

“don't agree with their interpretation and it's like well you don't agree so what you have to”

follow what the court says he doesn't think he does Trump doesn't think he does yeah these are people who ought to know better some of whom do know better but didn't want to appear you know like they were extreme or you know threatening violence of any sort but it justifies the unjustifiable in the end it ignores the reality of what we're dealing with we are not dealing with a group of people who abide by the law and if we don't have an you asked to circle back what should people do about it

they should get in touch with in whatever way they can their governors their mayors their attorneys general their secretaries of state and demand that they be prepared that they have national guard state police local police deputized to protect ballot boxes and precincts to be out there when ice comes to long lines and polling places and tries to drag a citizen out of line they have the police say no you can't do that and if we don't have that then we are going to get violence and all kinds

of horrible illegal unconstitutional immoral efforts to steal an election and we better hope that the election results are so great that even those efforts can't overcome what's to come but it's there and it's not as if the red state governors are going to be any better than the Todd Blanches of the world or the Donald Trump's well and also you know this is how it's going to work they're going to go in they're going to raise doubts about this thing they're going to target certain

places where they want to suppress the vote they're going to then get the vote they're going to look

about the vote in order to delay any shifting control of the Congress could be seven votes it could

“be three votes it could be you know whatever it is and they'll say well we're seeing these machines”

this is open Mike Johnson your your your your your your speaker of the house is going to say

well we're not going to recognize we're going to see these people and you know what they're going

to do is be very strategic after the fact to try to you know maintain the control that

“they're afraid of losing but but I have but I have to agree with you and I think the American”

people are not ready for what you're saying here the idea and you know I we've talked about it

I participate in a bunch of these scenario exercises last year where we were also looking with people and you know what might happen next and everybody was like yeah we have to rely on the courts and so forth and certainly some courts have worked out but some courts have not and and I just what people are not prepared for the moment that they have to work outside the system in order to save the system they're just not prepared for when they have to stand in front of

“a national guard group and say you have to come through me in order to get to this they're just”

not prepared for the kind of demonstrations for the kind of of confrontations that are necessary recording video of everything you know doing everything that they can to resist this because the other side is perfectly willing we would see they're shooting people in the street they're throwing people in the prison without due process they're saying they're willing to ignore the courts this is not the moment to say okay we're gonna we're gonna play nice absolutely true and a good

place maybe two and today have a nice day to have you exactly exactly have a nice day next week we'll talk about whatever is the fallout from the speech and anything else for now thank you Norm thank everybody and I will see you again soon