Episode #96 Featuring Lea Llovio! CONSCIOUS WELLNESS! Connecting the MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT! Spiritual Awakening, Finding your true self, The role of Nutrition in mental health and more!

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All right, everybody. Welcome back to the Dylan Jamelli podcast. So, I have an amazing guest today and once again, I am super grateful when my guest

plan to see me, so thank you for coming in. It's always an honor to me to have people

that are willing to come in here and think that it's worth their time to come and see me and talk. So, we are going to talk about a lot today. We have a good connection on things that we talk about that is exciting to me because I'm really the past several months, put a lot of work into connecting mind and body and I know that's your specialty and I love that and I can't wait to really get in deep with you on this. So, my guest is known as the Doc Whisperer and she's a conscious,

wellness thought leader and she's a globally sought after e-note speaker and she integrates scientific medicine and spiritual medicine, which I absolutely love and we are going to get into

“intricate detail on everything you do and uncover, I think some things that people are probably”

unaware of that go along in their lives and things that I know that you work on. So, thank you and welcome, Leah Lobio. Thank you so much, Dylan. It's really my pleasure to be here and I like you feel very grateful that in the wellness community that we're now starting to realize the importance of our thought processes, of the mind-body spirit connection and we do so much in the wellness world we use devices, we use light therapy, supplements, peptides, all of the things and

there are distinguishing factors in people on who they actually work for, because you and I both know the people that do everything and sometimes just can't seem to get better and so I'm really grateful that you've invited me to have this conversation and that you've also pivoted somewhat into bringing more of the mental emotional and spiritual wellness that really affects our physical

“healing, which is so, so important. I think that's what makes us conscious wellness people. Yeah,”

I agree. And you know, it took me meeting Dr. Dave Rabin and getting into the neuroscience stuff and then piecing it together and making my life about becoming God first. That's when I really started to understand the need for the spirituality on my happiness, but then correlating it all together to bring it all together is one because I can give you all the diet and the world, all the training, everything and if you're not good here, it doesn't really matter because we're

not going to fix anything, right? We're kind of battles, do you encounter with people that are struggling here and how much can it actually throw off your total wellness? Well, I love that

you're mentioning that because I think they go hand in hand, right? And it's really never one or the

other. For example, I will start by saying that conscious wellness incorporates the mental emotional and spiritual and physical wellness. Why? Because for example, if we did all of the mental and emotional work, if we have a crap diet, if we do not actually take care of what we consume, if we don't take care of our environment as much as we can, it still makes it very difficult, even to optimize the mental processes, the thought processes. So in the beginning for me,

when I started working with people, I worked more on the mental emotional and spiritual aspects of their lives. But what happened as time progressed is that I had people that had everything going on

the thought processes and really focusing on what they thought about everything they were doing,

what they thought about, what do they think about these peptides? What do they think about these

“supplements? What do they think about pharma as a whole? What do they think about scientific medicine?”

If we couldn't fix what we think about all of the processes, all of the strategies and all of the protocols that we do, then again, there's an interference to that healing process. However, just the same, you can have someone who is a master meditator that has all of the faith in the world, that really feels peaceful spiritually, but and this happens a lot, especially with empathetic people, people that have as their goal in life to help other people heal,

if they don't optimize their physical body, if their brain chemistry is off, it's very difficult to ask them to have a prayer practice in the morning, have a meditation practice in the morning, or mindfulness practice, why? Because the brain chemistry is off. The same thing with the hormones, and I know you have a lot of expertise in the hormones and in the physical wellness, and so they really do go hand in hand, and when we encompass all of it, and it doesn't have to be all at the

same time, this is when you truly see people that are living these extraordinary lives that you see them,

and they always seem happy, you know, they are healthy, they have great vitality, they have

beautiful relationships and people that they love, they're thriving in their business and their careers why, because they decided at some point in time, you know what? I'm going to be really ambitious. Why am I just going to have material things? Or why am I just going to have physical health? Or why am I just going to have a spiritual life? Why not incorporate all of it so that we can live our absolute best life that could actually really be bliss on Earth, and it really does start with the thought

processes, but realizing that if you have any sense of spirituality, if you do believe that you are a spirit, if you do believe that you have a soul, well, that beautiful spirit, that beautiful soul did choose this physical vessel to navigate this life in, and so we have to take care of both

the mental emotional spiritual and the physical. When you're like a type A personality and you never

“stop, and I don't deal with stress always perfectly, and sometimes I think that one of the reasons”

that I was kind of pushed towards this was more like God's work, teach people what you do, help them to overcome the issues that you're having. I think that when a lot of things that happened to us, for some reason, when you go teach people, they happened to you for a reason, because you were meant to help people and teach people, which then brings me to the question of how did this really become a passion for you to where you decided, okay, I'm going to dedicate my

life to helping people up here, peace it together, was there something in your life that encouraged you to do that something that happened to you, something that you, you study, then you saw, that turned the light bulb on, what was it? I think most people have their traumas, they have imperfect lives, right, especially as you're growing up. In my particular case, I grew up in Los Angeles, and Los Angeles can present you with any type of chaos that you can imagine. I know.

At the same time, I call it Los Angeles, the city of Angels, because I feel that sometimes in the in the chaos, you find so many angels, and really so many people come to Los Angeles to the United States, to California, to make their dreams happen, right, and so in Los Angeles, we have every spiritual practice, every religious practice, every ethnicity, every culture, every belief system, every political system, and when you're surrounded by all of that, which becomes chaos,

“you must find a spiritual center to anchor yourself in, and I did grow up in the more violent”

areas of Los Angeles per se, and I'm actually very grateful that I did, because I had to learn, to use my spirituality and my power to keep my own peace. At the same time, it really exposed me to so much pain and suffering, and there's a lot of gangs, there's a lot of drug addiction, there's a lot of violence, there's a lot of crime, and so when you see all of that, you realize well, people are suffering, people really need some help, and if they don't have a spiritual anchor,

it makes it really difficult, especially for people that are living in poverty, for example. They don't have access to organic food, for example, I grew up on pop charts, and you know,

family, and that's what we could afford. We literally ate government cheese, and so with that, even more, it became important for me to understand that there was something more than this physical world, and I was very blessed to be exposed again to many spiritual practices, to many religions, to many types of healing, not just in the religious setting, but you know, many people that come from many different places, for example, in some countries that don't allow people to practice

their religion, so they find other spiritual ways to practice their spirituality. They have to do it secretly behind closed doors, and sometimes, you know, this is where lighting a candle comes in. This is where praying to the angels comes in, because you can do that anywhere, you can do that

privately, and so with having that exposure in my life, it really made me always value that

spiritual relationship with the divine, you know, whether you call it God, you know, whatever you decide to call it, but there is this spiritual presence that can anchor each person,

“and the other thing about being exposed to all of these different practices is that I think that”

God is so good that God actually created all of these religions, and all of these practices to say, hey, I don't care what you call me, just call me, and so I really love that I was exposed to all of this, and when I was 16 years old, I was doing television shows, a lot for Latin America, and then I ended up working on films as an actress and TV shows, and what happened for me is that

I ended up always being everyone's spiritual advisor, everyone's therapist, and although it was

very, you know, lucrative and attractive to have this type of career, I realized that my calling was really to help people mentally emotionally and spiritually, and I have always gone where I'm called, you know, I feel that, you know, some people are very harsh on people and say, oh, you know, you're not working hard, you can do whatever you want, some people don't have the luxury of choosing

“what they're going to do, some people have to literally survive, right? And so I think they're”

survival, and then there's doing where what you're called to do, right? And so also living in Los Angeles, that's another thing that you see that a lot of people are in survival mode. Right? And so as I started having these relationships with people that became my clients, really, even though they weren't paying me, I had someone one day say to me, you know, I think I should be paying you for this. And so then that's when my career started shifting, and I did this work privately for a very

long time, and because I started in the entertainment industry, I had very high profile clients,

and so I've always, you know, been under very strict NDAs and had to work that way,

which is very good because everybody needs someone that they can fully trust and especially when you have a public persona, right? In this day and age, everybody has a public persona because we've got social media, but back then it wasn't as prevalent, and, you know, mostly we heard about politicians or celebrities. And so that's how it started for me was really following what I was

“called to do, and knowing that my primary purpose in life is to serve. That is the most important”

thing. If I'm given the sacred physical vessel and this lifetime, then I'm here to do something for the world. It's not just for what's in it for me, you know, and I have found this to be the most rewarding work in my life, is to be there to serve others. When one would have looked at what I had going on and said, "Oh, you have everything." I would go to bed miserable, and I would wonder what was missing. Sweet cars, we saw some house arcade in my house. I mean, just all kinds

of stuff, much of shit. And I would think, "Why do I go to bed unhappy? Why do I seem like I'm not something's off?" And when I stopped being like a slave to wanting stuff and became far more God first and far more about others not dealing this, still in that, it was about what am I doing here? What am I supposed to be doing? How am I supposed to be doing this? What am I missing? Everything changed and flipped upside down. My question to you is, because I've experienced that,

you find a lot of emptiness, let her trouble a lot of anguish and stress or sadness. Do you find that a lot? Or do you find people that are just pleasantly happy with all that stuff? I find both. And this is, I think, one of the greatest blessings that I've had is that I've lived

in between. And what I can tell you is that you find the same struggles emotionally, mentally and

“spiritually, whether somebody has a lot or a little on the physical realm. And it does come down”

to, again, the mental, emotional and spiritual fulfillment while you're trying to achieve the things. It's a blessing and it's a tremendous privilege to have resources, you know, to have things to be able to feed your family, to be able to live in a comfortable home. It's a big privilege, absolutely. However, you know, there was one friend that used to say, for example, with alcoholics. They used to say, well, if you take an alcoholic who's a jerk and get him sober, he's just a sober

alcoholic. He's not really going to, you know, be much better. And I think ultimately when you achieve a certain level of success, all that happens is that your true colors show just because it becomes easier. Because you, you know, don't have to give too many explanations or work for someone else. That's all. But ultimately, who we are at our core and the fulfillment is not really going to change so much with the material things. It may help, for example, to get the help that we need.

“You know, you may have more resources to get the therapies you need to get the, the help you”

need, you know, we have a big homeless population in Los Angeles. And a lot of that comes from people with very limited resources that have mental health issues, for example. And they just don't have the resources, right? But the, the physical resources, the money, the property, the prestige, these things, they're just one very small part of what can make a person or, or Honhol. And really the fulfillment, it's, it's when you're looking for the fulfillment in those things

that the problem comes. Because if you were unhappy before you had them and you didn't do any spiritual mental or emotional work, you're going to be just as unfulfilled when you have the material things. And it's also again coming back to that purpose and really a little bit of humility of knowing that anything we have, including just that one more day, is a big privilege. And it's a big blessing. And when people come from a place of how may I serve versus what can I get,

whether you are working at the gas station or the CEO of a big company or the president, everything changes. And because when you know that you're doing your calling, when you know that you're making a difference in people's lives and that your purpose is to help

people, it doesn't really matter what material things you have. You will always be at peace,

mentally and emotionally and spiritually. That humility is a big one. And I don't think a lot of people know what that means. Because it's not just being humble. He milled these being accountable to, being able to admit when you're wrong, being able to accept certain things that are going on for what they are and not thinking you can buy everything out or figure out everything on your own. I stop trying to be in control and figure everything out of my own. You know, and try to,

well, you know, I just ask God for help anymore. And I'm like, okay, just please help me. I'm not trying to do this anymore. I always like to be in control of situations, meaning I don't like to handle things myself, right? But in real life stuff where you need help,

“I just ask anymore. And I think once you get to that level, things do become easier”

to deal with and to handle the stresses and everyday life type of stress. I'm curious about mindsets of people from different ilks on what they're going through and how much stress they actually

endure on a daily basis. This is the person with 75 million things going on more stressed,

even though they got a lot of shit or the person that has nothing, but it's suffering because they're, you know, they're just underprivileged. What do you find to be the more, I hate to say problematic for you to work with, but the one that you see has the most problems. That's a really good question. And I can tell you that stress in the body is stress. Yeah. The stress in your body doesn't know how much money you have in the bank. Right. The stress in your body doesn't know

what kind of house you live in, what kind of car you drive, if your famous, if you're not famous. And really it's about the thought processes, right? So this is the main thing that I like to work on, whether I'm working with someone high profile or a doctor or their staff or clients,

patients that we share. We always work on the thought processes first. Because for example, if you are

really struggling, if you're underprivileged and if your thought processes are of anger and resentment at your situation, you're stealing those thought processes from thinking about, well, what can I do to make my life better? Right. What's one little thing I can change today? That might get me out of

levels, right? You know that stress causes high cortisol and it does all kinds of damage to your body.

“But hope and having a desire and having wishes in your heart raises your serotonin, raises your”

dopamine, you know? And so one of the things we have to do as human beings is brain wash ourselves. Right. The same applies to if you're a high profile person, you're going to have a lot of people that love you and a lot of people that hate you. And you can't control either one. You cannot make people like you and you cannot make them dislike you. It really, you can't. Ultimately, you could be mother Teresa and there's some people that actually don't like mother Teresa. This

is mother Teresa, right? So because maybe she had certain, you know, opinions on things. So what can one do? Again, it's the thought processes and going back to that having some hopefulness in our heart and having a desire to do something in this life to serve humanity. One of the things that Maslow taught is that in order to achieve the highest level as a human being is to be independent of the good opinion of others, right? So that's one is that we must be independent of the

good opinion of others because we will never, ever be able to control anybody thinks about

“anything. So the only one we can start to control is ourselves. What do we think about our situation?”

What do we think about ourselves? And the same thing, right? You have people coming at you all day if you're very well known, people hating on you and now it's all over the internet and all over the media, that's a lot to deal with. So this is why we have to work on the thought processes and on having a purpose so that you can always anchor back to that purpose to those thought processes. And it is a tremendous advantage if you do have a spiritual life. Yeah.

If you do have someone that you pray to, if you do light a candle, if you do believe in something greater than just this physical realm, most people that have that, they do just far better in life. Oh yeah, 100%. You know, I've been doing, I started doing YouTube in 2011 and I've faced a lot of a lot of things that most people would just completely crumble things that were said to me. And I didn't handle it. It's super great. Either I would be a little combative and

say some things and you know, my wife and my wish you would see things that I know would have said.

And I never want my stepkids to see things or anything like that because it's just terrible,

you know, but I got to the point where I said to myself, who am I trying to impress and what

“purpose does it do? When I wake up in the morning, do I think about somebody that made a comment”

about something I had, like the shoe collection I had in the background? And if they did, who cares? Or if they said something bad about the way I looked or whatever? I mean, someone the other day just did it was, you know, I showed her. I said, well, what are they talking about? I'm missing something because they were talking about all this stuff I had on my face and I just had micro-needling done, right? And they were saying I was doing this and that and I was like,

huh, I don't care anymore because why would I care? Because as long as people are hearing the verbiage and getting the message, the messenger is simply there to just give it. You're so right and guess what? The people that are spending their time zooming in on you, yeah. The criticize you. You're not the only one they're doing it, too. And the truth of the sad matter is that those people are not living a purpose in their life. There's been in their time,

their energy, their sacred life energy. Right. On criticizing another human being instead of doing something, they're stealing from themselves. They are the biggest thieves in the world. But the thing is they're not doing anything to you. No. They're stealing from their own life. They probably have something they'd like to do in life. But instead they're spending time looking at your shoe collection and at your micro-needling and whether or not you use the filter and criticizing you.

So these, this is very sad and I don't have a criticism on people that do that I have compassion

for. Yeah, I feel terrible for them. I always say I feel, I used to make, I used to have something

that wasn't very polite to stay back. But now I wonder if they realize what people like me they're comfortable say. I know I either would get a good laugh out of it or I, you know, we tend to make fun of them or I feel terrible. Because if you spend your free time and this is what concerns me because I have very little free time and I've lost and I can tell you this, I don't want

and there's one thing you can't get back, you can't buy back, you can't create it back, you can't make it back. It's time. Once it's gone, it's gone. There's, you can't get it back. It is gone. And so my sadness for people like that is in your free time, whether you have kids, a wife, a family, or you could be doing something to, you know, training wise or educating wise, you're spending your free time actually just looking for people to insult.

Terrifyingly sad and it's time and energy. So you said exactly. We only have 24 hours in the day. I don't care who you are. You can't get more so far, right? Unless we change the system. Yeah. But as of right now, we each only get 24 hours every day of this sacred life that is a privilege to live. And everything is time and energy. And this is why I like people to be very ambitious and ambitious, to be the healthiest, the happiest, the kindest, the most compassionate.

And with your time, right, to realize that, oh my gosh, like you'd have no guarantee if you're going to wake up tomorrow. No. You have no guarantee what how many days you have left. I don't care if you go see the best psychic in the world. And what they say, you have no idea. And so really valuing our time and energy and realizing that every single day is composed of that sacred time and energy that you get in this blessed life that you only get one, but you're aware of, you know,

there may be people that have extraordinary higher states of consciousness that may be able to see many lives. But most of us just get to see this one life. And in those days, those 24 hours

“are composed of that time and energy. And so what do you want to dedicate that time and energy to?”

There's so much to do. I know. One of the things that I've really tried to work on, and I'm going to lead this into a question for you. I like to set an example to lead into a question. I love it. So I have taken a lot of pride in being a doer, not a saer. I despise that. Oh, I'm going to do this or I'll do this or one day, like one day turns into years and years and years. So I, if there's ever a moment where I say, I'm going to do something and I don't

A, I'm the first one to admit, like I'm so sorry. And I don't try to hide it. Because a lot of

people will say stuff and they disappear and they never say and they act like it never happened.

Right. But I try with every even the smallest little thing it will eat me alive if I can't do what I say I'm going to do. And I think that that is like, I call it the lost art of accountability. And it is prevalent everywhere. And I find that the people that aren't accountable or that walk a lot and don't do a lot are the most unhealthy. So I'm curious. Your thoughts on why do you think

“people do that talking so much without doing? Is it like they like to hear themselves talk?”

They create a facade to make themselves feel better. And do you find that their level of health, mental and physical is worse than it should be? It stems from that coming to the world and to life to see what's in it for you. It really does when people are saying, I'm going to do this. I'll connect you here. I'll do that many times, you know, they're trying to make that connection

thinking that maybe if they tell you that, maybe you're going to do something for them first. In the

meantime, while they get there, I've seen that a lot with people that are, you know, trying to network and do things like this. But the key here is that there's an emptiness, right? And they're finding superficial ways to connect with other people. Okay. Versus again, if you come from a place, if you have a practice, whatever that practice may be, your morning practice, which is really special and important because it sets the tone for our days, for these blessed days that we get to live

this life in, with how may I serve, you know, I ask my clients to really think of three things that they're grateful for in the morning. That's good, yeah. Three desires or intentions that they have

just for themselves, just for themselves, with the sky's the limit, you can go big there. And then I always

“say the most important intentions are how may I serve, how may I do something for somebody else today?”

How can I make someone else's life better today? How can I do something without expecting anything in return? And the way this affects the physical health is that when we come to our days with how may I serve? You're body, the cells in your body, I say they start to do a little dance. And they start to say, well, I've got this human here that's strategizing on how to be of service to the world, on how to help other people, so we must be good. And then the cells can relax and do

how I'm going to get this, how I'm going to do that, how can I tell this person I'm going to do this

“to see if they'll do this for me? Then your whole body's restricted, your body's full of stress,”

your consciousness is full of stress. And your spirit is suffering because your spirits like, hey, we didn't come here to be like sucking on life. We came here to give something. We've got some great work to do. And so yes, it absolutely affects the physical body, it absolutely affects physical health. And I see this again and again with some of the extraordinary doctors that I'm blessed to work with, that are traveling all over the world, speaking at conferences, you know, every week, internationally.

And I work with them and I see them in person and they have tremendous stamina and they do walk the talk and they are very healthy, but guess what drives them? They really want to help people.

Yeah. They're here to serve humanity. They really want to help people heal. They are truly

coming from a place of extreme generosity. And, you know, I cannot say names, but I can tell you that I know doctors that will travel anywhere to help someone, even if they're not getting paid. And these are doctors that are, you know, concierge doctors that get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Yeah. They don't tell about that work that they do. Yeah, they're not posting a facade on their to make their life look so expansive. And that's, you know, that's stuff that I pull

from the Bible, it was like, don't, don't try to pray in front of everybody so everybody sees it. You would improve it and do it the way it's supposed to be. And that's the type of things that some people do in some people don't. And I think some of the best work is the stuff you mean anybody else doesn't see. You know, like, here's an example. You said the morning routine. And I, I am like the most regimented routine gone the planet. And I have been for,

I mean, my dad was that way, but then when I went to prison, that was like your whole life was

“a routine. That that was what you lived on. That's what you had. And I still carry that with me.”

And so now my morning walk, we talk about the sunlight and the steps. But you know what else is nice for me is I walked by so many people. And one small smile I can see, I can see the effect of me. Because I, you know, people walk on those paths and they, they look down to their on their phones. They just don't look at you. I make everybody look at me to say hi. And I saw, yeah, and I see, well, I'm going to tell you where I got that from my mom raised me that way. But I,

it was something like I learned in my readings. And then the priest had talked about it. And it was like, don't put your head down. Look at people smile at them. Because you don't know the type of suffering. One person in that one look could maybe save somebody's life or make their day. So I just make everybody look at me. And I turn and look at them. And it's just to say, hello, good morning. And that's it. And some people, I think it catches them off guard and whatever.

But those little things, they make me, they make my soul feel good in the morning. Because some of those mornings are stressful and I don't feel great when I go walk. Because I know I got slew of stuff to do. And stuff like that, it makes me feel way better. And it doesn't take

anything. I always say, treat everybody as if your life depends on them. If your life depends on

how you treated them. And if we each come to our day, treating each human being as if, hey, if I don't smile at this guy, he could have a say, you know, he might be the doctor that's there when you're at the hospital or the nurse. Yeah. But more importantly, what you were saying, absolutely, you know, you never know like where someone's rushing to, you know, why they look mad. And your smile even if they didn't smile back, restores a little bit of faith in humanity and

them. And they could be on their way to kill themselves. Yeah. I literally had people on their way to kill themselves and say, you know what, this woman just smiled at me. And it just gave me a little bit of hope. And they hung on one more day. You know, so I, I thank you that you do that. And I love that you do that because it's so important. If we each say, I'm just going to smile at people, you know, you really can change someone's life and you can really save somebody's life.

And you do what all of our lives actually do depend on each other. They do. They do. And you don't even

“realize it a lot of the times. One time me and Queenie were at, um, I think we were at Macy's.”

And I saw this woman buying all kinds of bedding. I can, I was like, I asked her, I said, how was she going to take all that to her car? I said, don't I just go ask her if she wants help? I don't want to think I'm a weirdo. But at the same hand, so I carried all her stuff to the car. It took me like 10 extra minutes out of my day. And the woman thanked me like 30 times over. You know, and stuff like that, that if you just do stuff like that, I mean, it's easy.

And it makes you feel good. Yes. And I think that that makes people healthier.

witnessing it, everybody feels better. Yeah. You know, just like when you see a movie that

makes you cry because it's beautiful and touching, it's the same thing. When we see an experience, one human being being kind to another human being, not only are they affected by a positively physiologically, but anyone witnessing it also gets a little boost, gets a vibration boost, gets a health boost. It's like getting a little IV of NAD. Well, and so here, I have some other questions for you that are more on the nutrition side because I'm curious about this. I haven't really

“discussed this very much, now that I think about it. And this is this is what these conversations”

are good and why no one should ever script anything because then these things come up. I am curious

why are there certain types of diets that you find to be better for the mind that correlate

more with a healthier mind? And once again, I do realize that everybody has different needs, necessities and conditions that they may or may not have allergies, et cetera, but is there a diet structure or style of certain kind of foods that you find that are happier foods? You know, that treat the mind a little bit better. One of the doctors that I absolutely love is Dale Bradison. Yeah. And I go to some conferences where he speaks and there's other professionals just

like him and their main goal is really brain optimization, preventing cognitive decline, preventing Alzheimer's, dementia. And you know, they really do give a specific type of diet to patients

“that see early signs of cognitive decline. And they have the studies and it has been proven over and”

over again that when they do move into a ketogenic diet for those type of ailments, it definitely moves a needle, including for children like with autism, ADD, with schizophrenia. They do see a lot of improvements there. Now, I am not an advocate for one specific type of diet because we are all different. And you know, I do know some vegetarians that do well. Most people overall, because of the environment that we're all growing up in, because most people are going to eat

packaged food at some point. They are going to have toxic food and seed oils at some point. And most people, you know, if you're over 30, you probably didn't grow up on fully organic food. So you already have some of those repercussions of a bad diet per se or a toxic diet. You know, most people do very well with whole foods with organic foods. When they're able to eliminate processed food, when you eliminate processed food, oh my gosh, you've eliminated

so much just by doing that. But absolutely, you know, people with depression, for example, one of the things they start doing is eating more and more sugar. Yeah. And that just feeds that cycle, that chemical cycle in their brain. And they get more and more depressed. And they get that little dopamine hint, just like cocaine, except it's sugar. And they feel better for 30 minutes. And then they're even more depressed afterwards. So there's definitely happy foods and there's

definitely depressive foods. And foods can definitely really make you very depressed, very anxious. You can get migraine headaches right away. You know, for myself and the people that I work with we travel so much when we're at home, right? We're eating our healthiest food. But sometimes you travel and you can't control absolutely everything. And you know, you feel those little reactions. Like, oh, all of a sudden there's this little headache or why am I moody when I'm usually really

even killed. Right. And it absolutely is, you know, the food. And what's the one thing we can control most of the time is what we put in our mouth. Yeah. Right. Because even the environment, you can't really control the environment. You can control the air everywhere. Right. No. But what you put in your

“mouth, that most of the time you can't. That's why I always tell people, look, I don't ever, I don't”

spend your money. I don't, I don't do your finances. But I will save us. What you put in your body is

the most important of anything. So I implore you, I get it. It's, it's completely backwards that

it's more expensive to eat healthy. It makes zero sense. But we're not here to make sense of things. We have, we have what we have and we have to do what we have to do. So I always tell people, look at your budget. What, what is it that you're spending money on that you could push this way and not do that way that you don't need to do and just do the best you can? Because I know not everybody can do it. But do the best you can. There's certain things you absolutely need

to make sure that you're eating properly. Like you don't want to be eating meats where they're eating on all these grains in this HMO. That stuff is going right into your body. So whatever animal eats, you're putting into your soul. And if you're a woman, like pregnant or anything,

that's like some facade and it's, it's so true. And then there's things that you can maybe you

“don't need to go as organic on, you know, and, and whatever. But I think that it needs to be stressed,”

that it's not just your physical look and your internal blood work. Yeah, up here too. It'll just trash you if you're eating bad. It can be totally depressive. Plus, if you look like shit, you're going to be depressed too. Right? Yeah, it's the greatest investment you can make is what you put into your body and the health that you give yourself. For example, this is really interesting. There are some people that will go spend $2,000 on a bag or shoes. Yeah. You know,

but they don't want to spend money on organic food. Or they don't want to spend money on a really top doctor or health coach. They're like on another, not in my insurance. And I'm like, okay, can you not do like three of the bags this year? Or, you know, three pairs of shoes or one of the watches and invest that instead into your health. That's where you get the biggest return. Right? It's investing in what you consume and what you do for your physical, mental, emotional,

and spiritual health. It's the greatest investment at all. I agree. The let's do a little shift here because you are privileged to be around some experts that know some stuff about peptides,

stuff about supplements, things like that. I've been doing it a long time. So I'm first on certain

peptides, especially that I know are good for the mind, anxiety, stress, things like that. But I also know you can't be reliant on that you got to fix some other things first before you start getting into that. So let's just imagine here that we've fixed a lot of the things that we can, that would then make somebody able to be able to use these and get the most out of them or at

“least close to the most out of them. I just want to throw that out there. You need to get yourself”

right in other areas first before you start taking things. They're not magic. But let's just say we're aligned. I feel that all medicine supplements, whether it is natural or it's a pharmaceutical, whether it's a peptide or sacred. I think all medicine is sacred medicine. And we should use whatever is really going to help us. One, sometimes get over a hump and then once we're well optimized, right? Why would we limit ourselves to just being okay? And so let's start with new tropics.

I love new tropics. And I have seen them change people's lives. You know, turn their brain on. For example, people that really felt hopeless like they felt, oh, like I can't focus. You don't no matter what I do. You know, suddenly they start using a nicotine patch or they, you know, chunicotine gum three times a week or use a lot of them. Suddenly their brain is turned on. And maybe they're not going to use it every single day, but it gives them that focus.

And that's something that again, I'm not talking about cigarettes. Yeah. By the way, and there's a lot of confusion with nicotine and some of these extraordinary doctors that I am blessed to work with, absolutely, use nicotine, especially on many of their patients over 50. Yeah. To prevent cognitive decline, they also use it to help with a vagus nerve. They also use it because that's connected sometimes to people that have like Cebo and digestive

problems. So they will use a nicotine patch with them. They also use it for travel. Yes, I've heard of that. Yeah, several times for the immune system. Yep. And if somebody's starting to get sick, they will tell them, hey, get a seven milligrams nicotine patch. And you don't put it on the whole time right away if you're not used to it, but you start with maybe 10 minutes at a time. And then most of these doctors, including myself, we travel with a nicotine patch, especially

for those of us that are always traveling, speaking at conferences, you need something to protect you.

Yeah. So those are on the new tropics. And of course, there's other ones that I'm not endorsing it, everyone's different, but you know, medaphinal has been tremendous for people with ADD. Yeah. And a lot of people do better with it than ADD. Yeah. And again, a complete life change or people that really felt hopeless, why would we not give them the tools so that they can focus and actually do what they want to do in their life? Oh, yeah. It's a million time better option than ADD.

In my opinion. Yes. Oh, yeah, like me too. Yeah. And so those are like more on the new tropics side.

“Sure. And then for the peptide side, I mean, I think I mentioned this to you when we talked”

on the phone. I say peptides make life fair. Yeah. Right. I agree. That is my opinion on peptides. Yeah. So for example, of course, you can use peptides. And I think most of your audiences aware for anything from helping you preserve muscle to build muscle, to resetting your circadian rhythms, to helping with your mitochondria, to helping with your cognition. And so some of my favorites

absolutely fantastic. I have seen, you know, 70 year olds that were really showing some signs

of cognitive decline to some rounds of re-relycin. And they are like, oh, my brain is on, you know,

“because maybe at that age some people may not want to do like medaphinal, for example, right?”

But so re-relycin, I have seen just extraordinary success with that for, especially if you're noticing some or people that have like, you know, have had trauma to their head, like athletes that have gotten, you know, some big trauma to their head, like ball players and things like that, they do extremely well with this as well. So I love so re-relycin and then for the fairness part working out, you know, people that, you know, they do have everything, they're at the gym two

hours a day, you know, they've got the diet dialed in and they just can't build muscle because everyone's physiology is completely different, right? And some people have our very blessed and they can easily build muscle, but others cannot. So now when you bring in some peptides, some growth hormones to create a gauze, and I have my own favorites, which are Tessa Moreland and I have a Moreland. Those are my favorites. I love Tessa Moreland's my ultimate favorite. Me too. Here's

you. Yeah. And, you know, it's a game changer. Suddenly, they're not having to spend two hours

at the gym Monday through Saturday. Now they're going three times a week and having more balance in their life. And they're actually starting to build some muscle. Tessa Moreland even helps people with their lipids, with fatty liver, for example. You can do the lab work on them and you will see after six months of using it. If they had a fatty liver, that's going to be really improved. Yeah. We've seen that multiple times. And I want to connect the physical wellness and

“the muscle with also your stamina in life. So physical muscle is so important. You know, we have”

more and more, you know, doctors coming out talking about this, how important muscle is and how important it is for all cause mortality. The more muscle you have, the longer you're going to live in the stronger you're going to be. And especially, you know, for women who at a certain age if they fall down break a hip, we all know that the statistics are that within a year they can die. Right. So why that's one reason physiologically, why it's so important. But building physical

muscle just makes you feel stronger as a human being. Yeah. Yeah. It's so important. Just, you know, if I'm going to the supermarket, if I'm traveling by myself and having to lift my suitcase, just knowing as a human being that I can do these things for myself makes me feel like, okay, I can do life. Right. Oh, yeah. Versus if you feel weak and you feel like you can't lift things, you know, you, you start to feel weak as a person. I was going to say it has a, it has a cognitive

effect too. It's not just a physical effect. It's always goes hand in hand. I've been on

guardians for five or six months and it has made me weak. It's made me lose weight and it's made me feel less. And I look at the scale and go, oh, you know, I can, I would say, oh, I can get away with eating more and did it. But I feel like so much less. And I had to stop taking it because it was draining my electrolytes that I was having heart rhythm issues and, I mean, just destroying different aspects of me because I'm not diabetic. It was used for heart failure or beginning stages of

it. Right. And so things like that that can take away and pull away. And then we've got peptide options that can build. I don't think a lot of people truly, truly understand how difficult it is to put on two to three pounds of legit lean muscle and keep it. I'm not talking about eating and gaining weight. I'm talking about lean muscle gain and holding onto it. It is very difficult. It takes a very structured diet, a very structured, structured training regimen. One that

discontinues the shocking the body see a lot of people get it wrong because they don't adapt. You know what I mean? They don't change. They just, they, and they don't push themselves. And then

“they say they don't get it. But I, I get it in five seconds as soon as I analyze, right?”

What what you said about Tesla Moreland that I love is it gives you the ability to burn fat and still build lean muscle. Which you could do with with it for Burrell and two, but it's not the extent of. As the Moreland, I was going to ask you two of my favorites. Our Selank and Seemax then paired together. They really have a lot of synergy and it's more like the anxiety and the stress relief and the calming effect and everything. I love those two. I do too. You know, and that's where I wonder

what your thoughts were on those. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, so many people use them. I use them. You know, I cycle through my peptides throughout the year. I don't do the same ones the entire year. There are some that I keep in place like BPC-157. Yeah, that's a must. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the ones that I absolutely love that actually one of our favorite people, Dr. Elizabeth Yereth,

Yes, absolutely. And but I use it at a higher dose because of her. Like I used to do them

as low as toast, but some some clients of mine were having hair loss. Really. And so one of the things that we started doing is using it at one to two milligrams one day through Friday for a few months and that totally reverse. Yeah. The shedding. If you do a little loading phase with it and then do some maintenance afterwards, but people, you know, once again, bad paraded information and misunderstanding that certain scenarios require a little bit of different utilization,

I discovered peptides in 2011 because I was doing underground coaching and discussion and found the research chemical market. And there was like seven or eight you could pick from and that was

it. And now there's thousands of everything. Back then it was just like what you were talking

about, you know, Atlanta, too. And then a bunch of growth hormones to create a box and that was it, nothing else to pick from. So what are your thoughts on how it's changed and how it's evolved in the future? Well, we have more chemical compounds now. You know, and that's another division, right? Like the slope. Have you heard of slopes? Oh, three, two, yeah. That, you know, used to the right way. I have had some clients that were, you know, like a hundred pounds overweight

and that in combination with GLPs. But at very low doses, not the high doses that a lot of people were using for, well, I'm talking about a hundred micrograms, like very low-loop or GLP-sloop. Yeah.

“Yeah, very low dose combined with a no-one, band 15. You know, you have to run those together, too.”

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And especially for men, I have seen like real progress because there

are some men that have been overweight like their whole life, where it's going, well, we will no longer have to have these diseases, like we will not have to have heart disease or obesity. If we're able to incorporate the right diet and the right compounds into our diet, as I think you, I'm sure you know this, but many of the doctors like they've really do prescribe the very microdose GLPs even for people that are apparently very healthy, just for longevity for

anti-aging for the prevention of cognitive decline because it reduces the inflammation in the body so much. Yeah, and see this discussion is important because the key here is proper use, the nicotine, the GLPs, they're intended for a specific use and like anything else. You start to abuse it, which you can do with vitamins. I mean, in a more extreme case, you could drink too much water. But you could. Right. So everything that we need, that's good, you could also abuse it

and then something bad could happen. A lot of these things have such benefit, but you start telling

“people and they freak out and get all angry without understanding the way that you have to use them.”

You are so right, and the other thing that I find is that if they know what one person who had a bad experience with something, they're like, oh no, no one should do madaphanel or no one should do slew. It's like, I would say there's something for everyone and nothing is for everyone. Exactly. Right. That's exactly right. I, there's like, like a good majority, as for example, I am the biggest believer in the world of SGLT2 inhibitors. I think phenomenal, but right now it's not agreeing with me

personally. I am not going to say one thing bad about it other than there's things that I had to stop and reset and then figure out how am I going to accommodate this if I'm going to take it because it's doing this to me, although the benefit here is working because it is because like ejection fraction one up six percent in a few months, but at what cost and how can I how can I try to mitigate

“this? And if not then it's just not for me, but I certainly know it works. You know what I mean?”

And then people do this where I can't stand when the only correlation you have when you're teaching somebody is what it did to you and not the 75,000 other people that it may have worked for. Exactly. You know, and we have to get out of that trap in that mindset, right, because that's what it comes down to. Absolutely. It's having curiosity and being open and understanding that again, there's something for everyone and also there's no compound that's evil. There's no prescription

that's evil. It really is in how you use it if it's appropriate for you. And of course, a lot of factors come into place, right? There's people that say, oh, you know, the GLPs don't work for me, but they get on a GLP and they're still eating McDonald's every day. And well, no, it's not going to work for you. If you do that, or they say, oh, I did lose a ton of muscle. Well, you know, we know the appropriate way is to make sure that you get enough protein, especially if you're

going to use a GLP. And you must do some resistance training to keep your muscle. And I know plenty

because we're using it appropriately. Yes. And I would argue, if you can't eat enough with it,

then you're probably taking too much. There you go. I mean, that would be one of the first

telltale science for me as a coach or a consumer. Okay. Let's scale it back. Right? So I think

“that there's so much misuse and misunderstanding. And that's why there's so much inviting amongst”

people in general, because everybody's on a one-track mind. Right. As opposed to wrapping their head around, wow, there could be multiple ways or means of opinion or methodology or use. Yes. And, you know, you mentioned the mindset of this. This is also very important. Whether we're incorporating a peptide or a prescription drug to really have the thought process and the mindset and set the intention for that sacred medicine and to see it that way. You know, to bless the medicine,

to ask whoever you pray to, to ask God, please, you know, bless this medicine that that my body will take it the right way. You know, I know an extraordinary healer that did this for a patient that had cancer. And in the beginning, the doctors didn't want her to be there, but he wanted her there in the waiting room. And after a while, the doctors wanted her there too, just because

“she was there doing prayers and setting good intentions for everything to go well for the patient.”

And this changed everything. And so it really matters what our thoughts are about everything that

we do. If we go to the gym and say it never works for me, it's not going to. If we take a peptide

and we think, oh, this could be dangerous or like with growth hormone or things like that, oh, that causes cancer. If you think that way, don't do it. Like literally just don't do it. But if you can say, you know, the people who created every type of peptide, every type of device that we use for our wellness, every medication, the initial start of that was with a sacred desire to help people heal. Yeah. It had an intention of, let me see if I can help people

get rid of obesity. Let me see if I can help people with fatty liver. Let's see if we can prevent more heart attacks. That was the original intention. And if we can set our intentions on whatever supplement we're going to use, whatever prescription drug we're going to use, whatever peptide and say, you know, this came from a good intention. This is here to heal me and really, you know, like just like some people pray over their food, you know, and ask for that food to nourish them.

If we do that, that really does change it. And I've done that with studies with people on the or a ring, for example. Yeah. Going to bed, if they program their self with the intention of what, what, what are they really tracking and what's the goal? Right? So many people want to prove it to HRV. Yeah. Their RAM, their deep sleep. And if they program themselves, even with using some of the devices we use, like the Apollo and say, you know, I'm going to use this and it's

really going to help me get into the deep sleep. They do see a difference in the morning. Yeah. In the tracking, they see that their RAM and blue improved. They see that their HRV improved. But if we just do things without the good intention and the positivity of the possibility of the immense healing that can come from what we're doing, we're missing a really big piece that really changes the game and accelerates the healing process. All right. You can think negative and just make

stuff go bad. Right. You can't. You do. I don't want to say you curse it from the start, but in simple terms, you do, you know, and then you set yourself up for failure. Let's see it all the time.

I used to do it, too. You know, and I really try to never do that anymore and just think everything's

going to go great. So, well, I guess we flew through that. But that was really, I think we touched on a lot of great things and hopefully talked about some things you don't normally talk about. So,

“people can see more versatility and what you do as well. That's why I like these and we did. Yeah,”

I like to, I don't, I talked to people before as you know, but it's only to build a little relationship. And I tell everybody the same thing. People send me a script, send me this for that. I say, well, great. Thanks. We don't use that shit. You go with the flow. No, that's how you have a successful episode with somebody because then it's a real conversation. So, thank you for going back and forth with me. Oh, Dylan, thank you so much. And thank you for the work that you're doing,

you know, and you're bringing so much light and healing to the world and it's so needed. And I appreciate your generosity and more than anything that you smile at people every day on your walk. That's so beautiful. I make them do it. Yeah. Well, tell people how they can follow you. You do a lot of speaking. If there's ways to interact with you online and I'll link everything in the description.

And usually I will put where I'm speaking next to there. And then people are always welcome to DM me.

And I'm happy to answer any questions and help in any way that I can. Awesome. Well, thank you.

That was fun. It helped me a little bit mentally too. So, thank you. I appreciate it. But I truly

“believe everybody will benefit from this in a variety of ways. And I think it'll make people smile,”

laugh and reassess certain things going on in a life. That's always the goal is to just sit back

reassess and go, okay. Maybe we can fix something somehow and take even the smallest bits and pieces.

“That's all I care about. That's beautiful. Yeah. We keep planting the little seeds of healing in the”

world. That's it. So, thank you again. I appreciate it. And that wraps up another one everybody. So, stay tuned for plenty more to come. Dylan Jamelli, signing off. [Music]