How To Begin a New Stage in Life With Candace Cameron Bure

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ID, Buddhist, for all of us. This is the end of my little show. Welcome back to the show you guys. So this week's really special for me because I'm actually fanboying here a little bit.

Really? Yeah. Actually, a lot of bit. And so the woman to my left, she's an entrepreneur. You all know her from Full House.

She's an actor. She's a producer. She's a best-selling author. She's an amazing wife.

She's got all kinds of incredible things going on.

I found out she's making tons of movies.

“That's what we're going to talk about still.”

And so I cannot wait to pick your brain about your life. Because it's been so interesting. By the way, she's so nice and humble in person as well. So Candace Cameron Berea, welcome to the show. Thanks.

Thanks for having me. It's great to have you. You don't want to ask you first. Because the audience is everyone listening or watching today. They're all at some different stage of their life.

Probably trying to make some type of a dream come true. And I followed you for all of these years. You've had staying power. But you've had to remake yourself, right? And so what would you say to somebody?

Or how did you do it? Where you have one thing in your life. And then it kind of ends. So you have Full House. You're known for that.

I mean, that's a big deal. And then that's over.

“And for a lot of people, I think they're career or something.”

They've done it and it becomes their identity. Right. And so there's a lot of people today that just something's ended. You know, maybe a marriage is ended, a business is ended. Maybe there's an empty nest or now their kids have moved out.

So there's this stage of life or something news beginning. But something just ended. How did you deal with that? Or what would vice would you give to somebody's at that stage? I feel like the little engine that could.

I just, I have a drive. And I think there are a lot of people that are motivated with that. And sometimes you just don't know what the first steps are.

But I've, I've always been a driven person.

And if, if you have that drive and you're like, my life's not over. There's so much more living. There's so much more to do. Whether you've been in that field before and had success or you want to try a whole new field. I'm the encourager to say, go do it.

Go try it. Do it again. Who, who cares if you fail in the process? That's all part of the learning experience, right? Yes, yes, that's easy to say though, don't you think?

I mean, if someone just had, well, like in your case, was there ever a dark period of your career? Or did you just go from project to project, like when full house ended? When full house ended, I was 18 years old. I worked for a couple more years. But then I got married at 20 and had my first child at 22.

So I then was out of the business for 10 years while I had kids. So I took a 10 year break. And then I came back in my early 30s and it was a new, I mean, a whole new thing because while there was success, I was a kid. I was on television.

I mean, I've been working since I was five years old. So from five to 18, but on full house from 10 to 18 years old, then you come back as an adult as a 30 something year old.

“And you have to remind people why they liked you, what you did.”

And but yet you're coming back in a new position as a new revelation to people. As, you know, there's some qualities that are the same and yet there's maturity that's gone on. But you have to tell people, you know, hey, this is who I am today. And so I, I had such a love and passion for the entertainment industry and storytelling. And I had wanted to continue doing it.

So that's why I feel like the little engine that could because there was just been so many roadblocks along the way. I can't even begin to tell you. Maybe we'll talk about a few. That's interesting.

You say the little engine that could because I would think being gone that long. At least in my case, I've struggled with my confidence most of my life. You know, even the things that I'm good at when I don't do them for a while or I'm starting over again, did you, were you, did you come back like I can like with confidence or did you have to do something to rebuild that confidence again?

I'm a fake it till you make it in the confidence kind of girl. I feel very nervous and I lack self confidence often more than I care to admit. I really wish that I was that person that could boldly walk into a room with confidence.

And so I'm the girl that would have huge, I still do.

I got the big arm pit sweat stains because I'm like leaking through my clothes with nerves. And yet, I have that little drive that's like you can do this, Candace. You can do it, just just do it, go for it. I'm so grateful that you would share that because I think most people in your position, I've had a lot of people in the entertainment business on the show.

I think sometimes they think they have to like reveal perfection for people to think there. Somehow, we almost look at celebrities as if they're different than us. When in fact, I've got to know through the way the show, they're just us, right? But I think a lot of celebrities sort of posture themselves as different than us. And as special, you don't seem to have the need to do that.

I just want to be myself, I don't want to walk through life being anyone else.

I don't. When you have whether it's an ego or there's a boastfulness,

“there's a pedestal in a standard that you have to live up to.”

I'm not true. And who wants to do that? I don't. I would much rather boast in my failures and let God shine through of what he carries me through to do. I love that. That was your kind of doing the interview for me to some extent,

because I think there's certain people when you meet them. I'll just give you a compliment that I think you see what I call the Holy Spirit on them. You see light in them when you meet them and when you meet them, you're almost like, I'd like to have that in my life too. And right when you walked in here, because we've not met before today.

I mean, I know a bunch of people that know you and likewise, we have mutual friends. But right when you walk in, there's a there's a lightness to you. In both ways, I mean, light not heavy, meaning you're pleasant to be with, but I mean, you bring a light, God's light with you.

“Is that been part of your recipe of maybe when you don't believe in Candace necessarily?”

You do know that God's always got his hand on you.

Oh, a hundred percent. I know that God is walking with me every single step. That's where my confidence lies, absolutely. Yeah, when I lack confidence, I know he has confidence, and he's going to carry me through. Same here, just went out on stage.

Yeah, and if it was me alone, there's, I don't know how many thousands of people out there. When I, if I were out there alone, I'd be really scared and nervous because I know how inadequate I am, but I know he can carry me through that. Yeah. One thing I respect about you, and I'd like you to speak to this, you know,

mine, it's kind of a serious thing too. You are pretty bold about your faith. I would say more than a pretty bold. You've been bold about your faith about expressing what you believe in. And a lot of blessings have come with that.

However, so as criticism, and there's people listening to today that wherever they are, or want to speak up about something, it could be their faith. It could be some injustice they see at work. It could be something political, and here's the truth. Most people don't because of fear of retribution or criticism or hate.

And you seem to be such this gentle kind soul, but when it comes to the things you really believe in, it's like, get out of the way. I'm going to tell you what I really feel.

“Has that been something you've had you've had to deal with criticism from it, right?”

And how? Oh, the word I've disliked most that I've heard back from people. It's not even people, but it's the people in positions of power that can determine the things I do and don't do in the entertainment industry. Is the word polarizing?

And I just hate it. I'm like, okay, well, she's too polarizing. And so that's just been a word that I laugh out now, but my faith means so much to me. I can't leave it at the door when I walk outside of my home. It goes with me everywhere I go.

And I all the things that I do in my life, from my heart, I want to do them for the glory of God. I know I'll fail in many ways in doing that, but that is my greatest intention. And I care more about what God thinks about me than what people think about me. And that's a lesson I've had to learn over the years that doesn't come naturally. I'm very much a people pleaser and yet God has given me because I believe in the Bible.

I believe that the Bible is true. And when I read those, the words that are written, I believe them wholeheartedly. And so when I read from the words of Paul and he talks about considering that it's great joy to face trials because it produces endurance. And also talks about endurance producing, proven character and character,

producing hope and the joy that we have within us.

And that is what gives me, I guess, the confidence or strength to just say, I'm going to be unapologetic about this because guess what, I'm not facing you when I die. I'm going to be facing a holy God when I die.

“That's so beautifully said. Is it cost you a bunch?”

It has, it has. It's been incredible in some ways. So not to just focus on the negative. I didn't go into the entertainment industry thinking, "Hey, I'm going to use my Christianity to get ahead." I think anyone that goes into that is crazy because it doesn't necessarily get you ahead. It's probably, we'll put you two steps behind because it costs a lot more than usually helping you

out in your career. However, I've had many blessings from it because I was bold in my faith. I co-hosted the view for two years. I mean, that was already 10 years ago, but that was a position.

That was a position. I never thought that I would have done to be a co-host on that.

And yet, it has cost me things. It has cost me contracts, partnerships, relationships, friendships. I've been, yeah, dropped by companies and have lost out on interviews and even parts as an actor, promotional things because here's that word. I'm too polarizing. It's such a strange word for such a nice person. I wonder what it's like. So are you raised in your

“faith? Because your brother's also bold about it. I assume you're both raised with faith. Is that true?”

Yes, and no? Yeah, yes and no. So the first time I went to church, I was 12 years old. Oh, okay. My dad was not a believer. My mom was a believer. And my parents, when I was 12, I've almost got divorced. A friend had them go to marital counseling together through the church. And that was a big deal because my dad was basically an atheist. And I was like, you guys can decide what religion you want to be when you're 18. I don't want religion. So when we started to go

to church as a family, I became a believer at 12. But again, growing up in my home, my mom was a believer. Love did. It was encouraging us. We would go to church. And she would talk about God to us. But my

dad was never there. My dad is a Christian now. But men, and he's been a Christian for a long time.

But yeah, I don't think, you know, he became a Christian really until I was probably 25 years old. Something like that. Okay. So this was something you sort of ended up building on your own. I mean, through mom. I really did. Through mom. Yeah. Through mom. But just at 12 years old, I really had a deep desire to know God once I was told about him. I'm like, there's a God out there that created

“the world. It loved me. Love me. Yeah. Like that's exciting. Yeah, you know what? I think I think you're”

so right. I think everybody does. Yeah. I think everybody wants to know why they're here. Now people have come to different conclusions and different answers for themselves. You and I have reached the same conclusion. Yeah. But I do think that's the primary question of life. Why am I here? Where do I go when it's over? And everybody should be exploring that for themselves. Instead of having the noise of the world distract them all the time. I'm curious with for you, because most people have

never had what you've had. You're so humble. But you've had a life in many ways that's one that

people would dream of in some senses. But it's just a very unique ride, meaning this incredible fame. Right. You're on the basically the number one TV show on the planet that was a decade long. To this day, probably you can't go anywhere where there's just raving fans who feel like they know you. And you had all this hit young. Then it goes away for a while, kind of, I would think. And then it comes back and drills. Now you're making four or five movies a year again,

which we'll talk about in a minute. What is fame like? Because so many people want it. Right? Like most people want some level of fame. They're obsessed with how many likes that I just get on my Instagram account. So everyone it seems not everyone, but so many people are chasing some sort of adulation outside of gods or their own their own families. What's it like? Is it what it's cracked up to be? What's the negatives in the positive? Yeah. Well, some of the

positives of fame. I think the number one thing I think about is influence. You have influence over a lot of people. What you use that influence for determines who you are, what you want to put out into the world. But what an opportunity to have fame equals influence is very powerful and can

if you have good people around you, can mean financial security. You know, that helps with life. Sure. But the negatives I would say to fame is lack of privacy and people don't realize what that feels like until it's gone. You know, some of us, and I say this myself, like I love social media, I love sharing with people and some people share a lot of their life on social media. However, when things get shared about you that you did not give permission for or photos or

released or things are set about you, that lack of privacy, whether it's online or in person, people following you, wanting something of you or your time because they feel that they deserve it

“and you need to give it to them because they feel a certain way towards you, even though you don't”

know this person. But they feel like they know you. It's a strange place to be in and you just don't know it until you experience it. It's really true because you grew up with notoriety, my form of it. However, I get it happen much later in life as a middle-aged guy. It's shocking. I think it used to be cooler to be well-known in famous before social media. So I only believe

the only thing I disagree with because of what you just said. It's the never-ending things

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“just because I think it's cool is the wine business or the... Okay. So how the heck does that happen,”

Miss Christian Girl? We're talking about alcohol. I'm happy to talk about it, but it's really for my husband. I know that, but that's he runs that. So my husband was a professional hockey player. He's in NHL for 12 years and when you're a professional athlete, usually you have to have a second

from Russia and he came here at 17 years old and when we were living in Montreal as a very young

married couple, he was exposed to great food and wine for the first time in his life. Such a great city.

And so we are big foodies and enjoy great wine also. And so as Val played the years through hockey

“and was starting to think about what is my next... My second act, what am I going to do once I retire?”

He knew immediately he wanted to be in the food of wine industry. So we actually had opened a restaurant. At one point had that for a couple of years during the last two years of his career. But we had been to Italy. We had been to France, fell in love with the wine region and then we went to Napa Valley and Val said this is it. And there was a lockout year in the NHL. So that lockout year, nobody was playing. He came to Napa Valley, spent the year during harvest and making relationships,

understanding just learning the whole business, spent about eight months so that when he was ready to

retire he said this is what I'm going to do and did it. And I just know my husband. He is a very driven person. He is also in Olympian. And I say that because Olympians have a whole different mentality in terms of a standard that they can accomplish that I'm like normal people just don't have that kind of dedication and commitment. And so I know when he puts his mind to something he will do it a hundred and ten percent. And so he's like this is what I want to do and I was like fantastic. Let's go

do it. So there's two of you in one relationship, right? So like there's two like mega-achiever doers. And so you've got businesses, he's got business, you're also like you're really busy. How long is it take to make a movie? Typically speaking. Well for television movies, because I produce all of them. So it's about five to six months from start to finish. So that's finding a script prepping the movie, which is about three to four weeks. The shooting

is the shortest part of it. We're shooting these movies in 15 days. And then you have a post, which is about 12 weeks or so. Okay, so listen to this everybody. You're doing like four or five a year. Yeah, five movies this year. Oh my gosh. So you have five movies, businesses, he's got a business. Kids, your last one, you're now an empty nest here. Is that right? Our youngest still lives at home. But my kids are too are married and you know, they're all adults. Okay, so a lot of people

wonder this. Like plus you got church life and this stuff and we're both speaking at the same event here today. It's a fair question. By the way, sometimes people say, well women get asked this more than men. I asked the same question to men. Like how do you have a system of how you hold all of this together, a way of being like, that's bananas. That seems to me like, you know, like, she got here, you guys, like just so you know, FYI, she was here 10 minutes later. Bam, we're sitting

down doing the interview and the interview is done. Bam, she's up on the stage. Like, that's yeah.

It could be out of control, but it seems to not be with you. No, I have an incredible team of

people. Okay. And so I have, I mean, I have a company, candy rock entertainment, and I have two incredible business partners. And then we have our team that works for us. So I had to learn how to delegate because of that drive that I have. And once I learned how to do that, I'm like, oh,

“I don't have to be the ringleader and master of all things at all times. And so that's how I managed”

to do it. But I have a great team that helps put the schedule together and make sure that I'm prepped and ready to go. But I mean, I do my homework. I do, I do the work, but I couldn't do it without my team. And I would say the hardest part is balancing home life. My marriage is incredibly important to me as it is my husband. And so we make significant priorities in our relationship to be together because we both travel a lot as well. But to be together, to stay connected,

to have the conversations, to be physically together with one another in person and not just talking on the phone or FaceTime. I mean, that is a key priority. And I also, that is a key priority within my team that they know that sometimes we have to say no to things because if I need to be

“with my husband, that takes priority over everything else. What's it look like? How do you do that?”

So does it a scheduling thing or is it a scheduling thing? We kind of have this two-week rule. We just made that up. That's what my husband would say. It would be a two-day rule if he could

we don't like to be a part for more than two weeks. So he'll come up to visit me.

So as soon as I come home, I just kind of know that, hey, once I come home from something, I need two weeks at home. I need substantial time to nurture our relationship and keep it going. We've been married. It's going to be 30 years. And it's Valerie, right? Yeah. Yeah. What a great player, by the way, too. Congratulations. That's a long time. Thank you. Yeah. And you seem very much in love, still. You did a last night with a friend of mine. And yeah,

there's still whipped. That's so cool, though. That's awesome. What do you do? Do you have any rituals or things you do to hold it all together? I know you have a prayer life, clearly, but you're also, you appear to be in great shape. So like, what do you, what do you do to keep this whole thing, this train moving all the time? Do you have some daily rituals or habits that you would share for super busy people? I'm in the gym every morning or out for a walk. My fitness

is incredibly important. I'm also turning 50 this year. And so I want to do all the things that

will make me feel my best going into the second half of life. God willing, I live to a hundred.

So fitness is important. And that clears my brain. It helps me mentally focus. And so I schedule and prioritize my fitness time. And it's like an hour. You know, it's not crazy.

“And I would say my prayer life is very big in my, in my Bible time and focusing on my time with the”

Lord, because I, I'm not walking my life for me. God's given me my life. And he's entrusted me to live it out. And so I got to check it in with him daily. God, is this what you want me to do today? Is this the plan that you would have for me? Is this the road that you want me to walk on? Is this the decision you'd like me to make? I have to check in with him about everything, because it's really his life that he's given me to live out.

Can I ask you something personal on that? I think people that hear that. Sometimes, especially if they're, maybe they're new to their faith. Yeah. Or maybe they don't have faith yet. And they hear something like that. And they say, so what, like she hears voices? And I mean, this is surely. Right. Because I've asked

“a lot of believers this. How is it that you get an answer? Is it, is it, is it, you feel something?”

Do you think you audibly hear something? Is it just your discernment kicks in? And there's a sense of direction or certainty about it? I think a lot of people would really be interested as to how that sort of plays out or manifest itself with you. And over, over or over your life, you've become very accustomed to whatever that sense is that you have. Yeah. And I would call it that. It's, it's a sense. I do not hear God's voice audibly. Wish I, wish I would. I haven't.

But a lot of times it's, it's, what we feel when we feel our conscience, you can feel conviction, maybe your heart, bitter patterns a little bit faster, maybe your palms get sweaty, sometimes there's a physical reaction in that way. But it's, you know, when you, when you walk into a room and maybe it's scary looking in there, you kind of, there's something in your being that says, hey, the, the red flags are going up or the hair on your arms stands up. Hey, this isn't right.

It's kind of the same feeling. So when I'm praying and I'm talking to God, a lot of times, again, I don't hear a physical voice. But sometimes I don't necessarily hear anything. And to me, that just means it's a go. There's no red flag coming up. So if I'm praying through this or have a decision to make and I'm saying, God, this is, this is what I'm going to do. Is it, tell me if you don't want me to. And if I don't hear anything, then I go great. It's a go.

When I feel something that I go, I'm going to halt, I'm going to stop. I'm going to think about this some more. It's kind of that reaction of your conscience or just when you get a red flag,

maybe it's in your gut. It can be anything. And then the most important part, because then

I know all of us can say, well, this is the answer I really want. So I'm just going to make myself believe that this is what God wants to. I'm going to convince myself of it. We can all so easily do that. So then I actually have to look in the Bible and make sure that that decision that I'm making, hey, is this go against anything that God would say for me to do? Is this go against God

“where God not be pleased with this? And can I find an example of that in the Bible? That's how you”

self-check. What's been the hardest part of your life? You seem to have such a rich life right now. I look at you. I think, you know, it seems like it's got unbelievable family life or faith life or careers kicking butt. She's in great shape. She's about to turn 50. She seemed very happy. But everybody goes through a valley of sometimes. When was years or what was it if you don't mind?

gratitude. I mean, I would say one of the, I have a couple of times. I mean, there's been personal

“life things. Even, you know, within my marriage with Val, 30 years, you go, you go through”

ups and downs. We've had some some valleys in that area. And professionally, just changed right there. Did it? Oh, yeah, I did. Absolutely. Okay. Please keep going, but your face definitely changed right there. Yeah. I'm so grateful that we walked through that valley and we came back up because it's just, that's been the biggest blessing, you know. And I would say professionally, we talked about it a little bit, but some of the hits that I've gone through. It's when, it's when the media's narrative

is very different than reality and your character is thrown into the garbage. You know, that very much happened to me about four years ago. And it was just a real, it was, it was a very difficult season for me. And I still feel the ramifications of that today, although not nearly as strong, and I kind of walk through it, but it took a major hit and a blow. I'm unfamiliar. Did you

take a stand for something and got some heat for it or? Yes, I know, but yeah, I always hate talking

about it because then it gets brought up. It gets brought back up and it's like, we want that to go away. Yeah, there was, I left, I was with the Homer channel for 15 years and then I left to join the great American family channel and also had an opportunity to help this channel grow became their chief creative officer and it was, it's a place where they focus on movies of faith and that

“became important to me. And during that transition, there were headlines as to why I left that”

weren't true and so they just ran an narrative that was completely untrue that really focused on my faith, but in the most negative ways and things again, not true. So that was devastating because you can't, you know, once you try to defend your own character, you can't do that. Other people have to defend it for you or you just, you just walk through it. And yeah, like I had to take a time out of like, God, how do I deal with this? How do I handle this? Because it hurt. That's sort of what

I meant earlier with the digital age and social media. Some things can get out there and then

the noise of the negative is never, ever, it's never as noisy when the clarification happens or

when the truth comes out. The noise of the negative is always more than the positive it seems like. Well, oh, it is. It is 100% and you also can't once someone's convinced of something, you really can't change their mind. I mean, we see that in politics. Yeah, it's for sure. Yeah, I stay off of that topic most of the time. So there are a lot of this surrounds your faith, though. So a lot of what we talked about today is around faith. Yeah. So I'm trying to keep fewer things, but I'm trying to keep

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not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease. Curious, I feel like my faith is a relationship with God,

right? And so, in all candor, I've told my audience this, I've always been a believer,

but like any relationship, like you talked about with Valerie, by the way, that's where I said your face change. It was almost a look of like, "Thank you, God, for pulling us through this because I love this man so much." That was the look that I saw, but I definitely saw a look. In many ways, I was a beautiful look, but the sense of like, "Thank you for whatever that time

“was pulling us through it. You're so grateful." But I wonder, have you ever doubted your faith?”

They're head ups and downs in it? Is there ever been a time where you were to low and you're like,

"God, why are you doing this to me?" That, yes. Okay. But I've never doubted my faith. Okay.

And again, I don't see that boastfully, but I just, just because things aren't going my way, it has never made me feel like God, you don't exist or, you know, it's the age-old question. Why does God allow bad things happen? Why do bad things happen to good people? And I know that there's just some mysteries that we won't know until we see him face-to-face. But so I've never doubted my faith. I can't look around the world

and just creation in itself and never believe that this all happened by some explosion randomly in the world. That doesn't connect with my brain.

So, I've never questioned God's existence. But I've certainly had times where I'm like,

“"God, why? Why this? Why would you allow me to walk through this or that person to walk through this?”

Or why isn't there more relief in these areas?" And I know that God's not scared of any of those questions. He goes, "Ask 'em." God, you're good, can't. So one thing I noticed about you, we don't know that much more time, but I develop these theories when I talk to people. And one of the things that I believe about successful people in general is that there's not a lot of conditions to their beliefs or their performance. Let me tell you what I mean.

The best athletes I've ever been around. Their effort is unconditional, meaning that if they're up 25 to three or they're down 25 to three, they're still giving their best. I think the best marriages that I've watched. It's not always conditional on how the other person is behaving or

“their partner is acting the same time. Faith. It's not conditional on whether life is going the way you”

like it to at the time. In other words, I believe in God when things are going great. Not so much when they're not. And so as I watch you, one of the things I think I admire in this short time is that you seem not to be a conditional person, meaning your marriage isn't conditional. Your career isn't conditional and everything lighting up or everybody liking you. Your relationship with God doesn't seem to be based on conditions suiting you all the time. Is that a fair thing to say and do you agree

with that? Yes, very fair. I absolutely agree. I love, I mentioned Paul in the Bible, the Apostle Paul earlier and I love reading the books that are in the Bible that he wrote because I look at such a faithful man that loved God so much and yet his life only got worse. The amount, I mean, the amount of abuse and torture and beatings and jail time up until death and yet he became more and more humble throughout his entire life until the very end of it and it is inspiring to me.

And I want to run the race well. That is what's most important to me. I look at the life that I've been given and I think about, oh God, if you give me a hundred years to live, I want to run it well and I don't want to get to the end and, and Peter out, I don't want to get to the end and say,

and run with passion and heart knowing that my arms are wide open and gods are wide open going,

come on, come on, I'm the finish line, I'm the finish line, I'm the metal, I'm the goal, like that's

“the race for me. Come on now, that's what you try to do to me right here. That is so beautiful and”

so good. Can I give you confirmation on something? Yeah. You're going to trip out right now. And then I'll ask you one more thing. I probably should finish on that because there's no way it's going to get higher than that. Okay. But I got to ask you, that was, I actually felt that like in my body, that was awesome. If I got to tell you, so yesterday, I had some free time. I took this survey, there's this online survey and you answer all these questions and then at the end,

it tells you what person in the Bible you're most like. I'm like, I wonder who I'm going to be. I was Paul. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. Can you bring that up of all the people we're going to show? That means this is like prophetic true-lude here on our conversation today. Of course, I'm far more screwed up than even the Paul. But I was Paul, which was cool. Okay, that beautiful thing you just said about running the race and that God's the metal and God's the prize. Let's say someone's

listening to this right now and they go, I want to run the race better. And what a beautiful conversation the two of you have had. And if I ran into Candace at Starbucks and I said, I heard you on the Ed My Let's Show and the last thing that you talked about was running the race and getting the metal, I wish Ed would have asked you, where do I begin? And so I'm going to ask that question on behalf of them to finish if someone's saying, I want to do that too. I want to run the good race.

I want to get at the end and well done, good and faithful servant. What would you say to that

person who says, where do I start? What do I do next Candace? Yeah. The very first place you start

is right in your own heart wherever you are in that room, close your eyes, get in a peaceful place and just start talking to God. And you might not know what to say to God and you can tell them that and God, I want to run this race and I don't know where to start. Could you leave me how, could you show me? Could you, would you please set my heart and my mind on a path towards you and to knowing you? And I think it is about relationship. You said that earlier, it's a relationship

and you got to spend time with him on. Now I could tell you a whole bunch of resources to then that will enhance that. But you got to just start with the person you want to get to know better and start in prayer towards him and then I would encourage you to read the Bible. That is the most important place and then again there's a million podcasts and all types of ways in which they can help you read and understand context within the Bible and going to church and having a Bible

“believing teaching church. All of those things are great enhancements and are important I believe”

for in a biblical sense within community but it really starts with your heart and you talking to

God. God tell you, I've always been a fan of yours but I really respect you after meeting you.

I respect your boldness what you stand for and what you believe in. You're pretty damn awesome. Seriously. Oh, thanks and blessing. Yes, this is true. Where do people go find you? What should they be looking for to be more connected with you? Where should we send them? Well, I am on socials. Let's do Candace Sea Buray on Instagram and all that. I also have a podcast the Candace Cameron Buray podcast so you can just throw that in your podcast catcher and and then you can find my

movies. I'm great American family channel. Find my movies. I'll check it say that line. Find my movies. Tell you what's awesome. Thanks. It was great. I very much enjoyed talking to you. I loved it.

“All right, you guys. I don't think I have to ask you on this one but you should share this episode with”

somebody that you love that you care about. What an extraordinary conversation. God bless you all. Max out.