Nola Haynes is Not a Spy

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Findout Podcast. We have a great, great, great show for you today. We're gonna be talking about all kinds of foreign policy stuff, the word Iran, new secrets that apparently Trump was keeping in Marilago that just dropped this morning.

I'd also, we're gonna talk about a brand new findout media show with our resident foreign policy and national security expert, Dr. Nola Haynes. Nola, how are you today? - Hi!

- So Nola is the new host, and Nola's been on the show once before, and Nola is the host of a new show that drops today. So once you watch this, you go watch that. It's Nola Haynes is not a spy.

So Nola, tell us a little bit about the name and what the show was about, and then we're gonna dive into all this crazy stuff in the Middle East.

- Okay, so first of all, thank you guys for having me back

on the first time I was on, we have such a good time. And that you all gave me a whole show. - I don't know. (laughing) - Message to any, any important people watching.

You come on the show, you might get your own show. - True.

“- And I think you're our first repeat guest ever, right?”

- Yes, for your own show. - Oh shit. - No, it's so special. - It's so cool. (laughing) - So first and foremost, I'm so happy

to be officially part of the findout media family. And I am actually really happy that we had a chance, most of us to get together in person for the DC launch party. That was really special.

And yes, so Nola Haynes is not a spy. Regardless of what my father made thing. (laughing) The podcast drops today, really excited. And we do all types of fun stuff.

We, Tim, we've had conversations about how to talk about foreign policy in a way that people don't roll their eyes. You know, because I'm not in the business of making these very serious topics entertainment per se.

But I do realize people need to get the information differently. So that's where Nola Haynes is not a spy comes in. We do foreign policy differently. - Yeah, and you've already got some great guests lined up and who is your guest?

“I think it's a friend of the show, actually,”

is your first guest, indeed.

- Yes, Harry Dunn. Harry Dunn is our first guest. People know him, unfortunately, from January 6th. He's the huge black guy that my friend, Condi, has branded Teddy Bay and Teddy Bay has stuck.

She's the Brandon Queen. So yes, we talked to Teddy Bay, who's also running for Congress here in Maryland. And we're really excited in that episode, really crystallizes what Nola Haynes is not a spy is about.

So first the mission, the mission, is to talk about foreign policy and security, but in a way where it meets culture, right? So we bring in those old school TV shows and films that you might have grown up with, like,

for instance, I'm going to give one part away. I'm going to Harry Dunn interview. He loves special victim unit. He loves law and order. - Oh, screw.

- Cut.

- It's like, it's, it's, it's always called screw.

- So, I don't know if I've actually put it on. - It's weird, it's weird. - It's weird, it's weird. - It's weird. So he loves SVU. It's not necessarily why he became a cop per se.

But it's those things that kind that we grow up with, that we don't think about an context of being national security focus, so foreign policy focus.

“So that's how we bring in culture into the conversation,”

how we're getting to know people deeper, is through what you watch does a kid, you know? And what you still watch, like, for instance, I love commando growing up as a child, 'cause I love the list of Malano.

Like, I loved commando. (laughs) And I was like, I wanna be a list of Malano. I do action bills when I grow up. - So, that was really about formative for me. So those are sorts of things that we're getting at

when we talk to all these exciting people, like, what were those movies that you like, when you grew up, and do you still tune in? - Yeah, and I will say, we've seen some bits of it already. It's really, it really engaging, really interesting.

And I think people are gonna really like it. Also, I know it's gonna be a hit, because when Nola came to the launch party, she came with, she rolled like 50 people deep. Like, she packed the room.

So I know, even if they just listen, it's gonna be a hit. So you guys should get on board, because you're gonna be here in a lot more about this. So, but anyways, so everybody go check out Nola Haynes is not a spy, it's available.

Wherever you watch this show, it will be right next to it. So you can go ahead and check that out. But Nola, so, foreign policy national security is also in the news, because we are in a war that nobody seems to understand why we're in it.

So, I know you have all the answers, Nola. I know you can read deeply into the mind of Donald Trump. Do you have any sense, we're in like, week, what? Four, three or four, or this war, do we know why we're there?

You know, at the beginning, the administration or the regime,

they were not shy about bandying around concepts like regime change. And I don't think that they've moved away from that idea, but something a little bit more starting to become clearer.

“And that is Israel's positioning in all of this, right?”

regime change to what end. And what it is looking like is for Israel under Netanyahu to be positioned as not just maybe the hegemon in the region, but also controlling oil and, you know, all the energy that that flows through the Middle East.

So, that is a potential in goal to this. And I want to really point out to people that this isn't a new concept that BB Netanyahu has slowed it. It's a reason why the Biden Harris administration did not get on board with this plan, right?

But here comes Trump, he's gun, oh, hey, let's do it. Let's break international law all over the place. Because there is this idea, not so much about a superpower, more than there is an idea of kind of like regional hedge bonds, regional powers, right?

So, I am still waiting to see if that is in fact the end goal because we don't know what China is doing per se and how they feel about that. They haven't really chimed in other than they want the war and Iran to stop.

So, it can't just be Netanyahu and Trump maneuvering around the world trying to carve it out in their vision. There are many other actors involved in this. And the last thing that I'll say about this kind of regime change wanting to position Israel as the regional hedge bond,

“I think the other countries have something to say.”

Dubai waking up to a five star hotel being bombed was not on your bingo car and I'm quite sure. - Right, right, I mean, I think that that's, I think we're in a mess now because Donald Trump went in without a clear objective.

And he was, as you said, talking about regime change. And yes, we have killed a lot of their high up leaders. The Iatola, though we replaced Iatola Comainee with Iatola Comainee, which we still haven't seen a proof of life of, but, you know, theoretically,

the leader and we've killed a bunch of other people. But I think one of the things I'm really curious to get your take on Donald, and this is going to be a slightly sarcastic question. - No, you are in a war.

- Oh, I got it, my main roots are going to come out on this one. Do you think it is generally a good idea when you are at war with somebody to allow them to generate more revenue during the fight when you're battling with them, by saying, selling oil that has been banned from sales

for years. Do you think that's a good idea? - It's not a good idea, not a good idea, Tim. I'm going to have a good idea as well, as well, as well. - You're sarcastic.

- I don't know. I mean, so those you don't know. Donald Trump has now said he's going to allow Iran

to sell their oil in order to up to $14 billion worth

“I believe in order to drop the price of oil globally,”

which I don't think is going to work. - How many of those little drones can you buy with $14 billion? - Not very fucking many, I don't think. (laughing)

- No, little Iranian drones that are like $20 billion. - Oh yeah, they cost not ours, right? Not ours. No ours, you could get half of a drone. You can get one propeller, one propeller.

- You crane is, they're quite good at building those cheaply. You know, it's interesting. I got into media through my work on sanction. So it's interesting when I'm reading that sanctions are lifted for Russia and also for Iran,

and I'm like, okay, so what's the point? And this is the larger problem with all of this. Trump came in with a wrecking ball. You know, domestically starting with Doge and he's maneuvered through our country

and other countries with a wrecking ball. And here's the thing, as an international relations political scientists,

I will be the first one to tell you

that our international system needs help and it needs fixing. Is this the way to go about it? No, was Doge the way to go about our problems in a federal government, absolutely not.

So you do one thing that undoes years and years and years of work that came before it, making that work obsolete, making that potential instrument, that diplomatic instrument, pretty much useless.

And that's the problem I have with this because Donald Trump does not take his time. He's not a student of anything and he just goes in and destroys and destroys

That is my overall problem with this regime.

- Yeah, I can understand that. If that's the least detail of a hundred percent

“I think I've ever been like not even a president,”

just as a human being, even that percentage of scary. My question is going back to, we're just talking about with Israel wanting to sort of become the arbiter of how oil flows in the region and like Trump being dragged into that.

How could like, if I'm Trump and that happens, let's say it happens and Israel gets in that position. What is the net benefit to America for that happening and how could even sell that as a win for us versus a win for Israel?

What do we get out of it? 'Cause that seems to be the question of like the whole thing like what's the value that we get out of any of this? So is there a potential downstream American value to that outcome that could have drawn him towards it?

- Is that you already know the answer to that? There's no damn much. (laughing) - I'm just asking, you know? - Even if there is a percentage from that deal,

not of us are going to see it. You know what I'm saying? None of us are going to see it. I think we're still waiting on our dose checks. - Yeah.

- You know what I mean? - You're not going to have refunds. - What? - Which is that? - And our care of refunds.

- Exactly. - Our care of refunds. Like nothing that's happening in the Middle East will benefit Americans directly. Will it benefit the Trump family?

Possibly, probably. Will it benefit those congressional members that bought the stock 15 minutes before Trump

“made the announcement that the U.S. and Iran were in talks?”

Probably will it benefit us probably not? - Right.

So can we just go back to that for a second?

'Cause that's been popping around recently. Can you explain a little bit more about that trade? Like what that, I mean not necessarily all the details, but there was a stock trade of a large amount, 15 minutes before Trump announced that he was,

I think we're going into talks, which we've turned out is not true. But what was that? As far as we know. - It was insider stock trading.

- Yeah, we don't know who it is though, right? - Right. - We don't know who it is though. - But there's a pattern 'cause this isn't the first time that's happened.

This isn't the first time it's happened at a Trump regime. And I'm sure some interpret investigative reporters are out there piecing those connecting those dots as we speak, but there definitely is a pattern.

And it is a problem. Corruption, corruption, corruption is the one word that everyone should be shouting and screaming when it comes to this administration. I mean, the corruption is naked.

It is just in your face. And as we like to say in the black community, they are literally playing in our faces. - Yeah, I mean, we've got Jared Kushner, who is doing both apparently as our special envoy

to the Middle East, because clearly it's not my experience, but he's doing that official job with the federal government at the same time

“that he's trying to find, I believe, five billion dollars”

or some amount for his business ventures. I mean, if we want to talk about conflict of interest, there you go, like when I was in the federal government, I couldn't do anything outside. And this guy's like raising billions of dollars

from the same people who may have the fate of this war in their hands. - So he's a special envoy in the same way former Secretary Kerry was the climate envoy in the Biden-Harrison administration.

So he has that formalized designation without being able to get security clearance. - Right. - How's it going? - He wasn't able to get security clearance.

- I'm very curious about that. - See, I thought you were going to joke that he has the same job that Christy Nome now has,

which they fired her and basically made up a job.

Who are now the shield of America and everyone's like, what the fuck is that? - So a special envoy is a real thing though. That is a real, and this is part of the thing that this is me all, special government employee,

like Elon Musk was, like what I was, special envoy, these are real designations. So again, they are manipulating and using actual tools and instruments within the government,

while also trying to destroy and dismantle and circumnavigate the actual rules that stand up the federal government. And when you have a role, like a special envoy, I would imagine security clearance is probably important,

especially if you're dealing in the Middle East, we're talking about WMDs, we're talking about conventional weapons. I think you kind of need clearance. - I have a question for I get Nola and Tim,

because you guys have been in the Washington universe for a long time, and like we all want them to pay the price for this, like let's say a Democrat wins in 28, hopefully. Well, how hard is it going to be to hold people who are doing this shit accountable

for the things they're doing? 'Cause we all want them to be held accountable, but like how just structurally difficult is it gonna be to have them actually meet some kind of consequence for all the things they've done?

- Well, it depends, and I think a lot of it depends

And I'll tell you right now,

I'm not gonna support anybody that's not full-throated investigations on investigations, on investigations, and punishment. One of the reasons that we got throttled in 12, not 12, 10, 2010, and then also in 2016,

was the fact that a lot of people were disillusioned that Democrats did not prosecute anybody for the financial crash in 2008. That was a monster mistake, that was a mistake that the administration that we both were in at one point,

that we was a thing I vehemently disagreed with, but the question about holding them accountable, it really depends on who we're talking about. Like the low-level guys, sure, you can like, that's easy, but I mean,

- I mean, the high-level guys, I don't know.

“- So the high-level, I mean, I think that,”

I think that this is a moment for Democrats

where they have to change their positioning and go, no, fuck this, like you almost broke this country, you need to pay. And I think that they, I think they can really do it if they get aggressive, if they put a very smart

prosecutor in the Attorney General's seat. And I think that Trump with his age and the immunity bullshit is a little tricky, but like I think they should go after everybody. I think they can do it, but they're gonna need pushing

to do it. - My question is how do we deal with hardens? Because, I mean, he's gonna preemptively pardon everybody for everything, for everything, anyone did, for him ever.

But I mean, a lot of those people will turn around and commit more crimes, just like the J6. And it's like, well, yeah, there's so many J6 guys are now back in jail, because they did more crimes, because they went hurt a kid, yeah.

- Yeah, but I totally agree, we have to run on justice. I mean, you just have to run on justice and accountability. We also have to run on closing the systemic gaps that allowed all of these things to happen. Like, I was just looking at the filibuster the other day

and just the Senate rules around the save act. I don't think people realize how much is just because of the Senate rules. The parliamentarian is just a person who serves at the majority leaders' whim and can be replaced

at any time. Every single thing that Trump wants to done, don't let him hear this. Every single thing that Trump wants to done could be done with a simple majority vote.

If John Thun just said the parliamentarian has got to go and replaced with a Maga Loyalist who just allowed all the rules to be broken in the Senate. Like that is literally the last thing standing between us and the save act and the mega act,

all the additional voting rights restrictions, like it's terrifying. We have to have federal laws that change that so that we're not just hoping people back the system because they want to--

- I mean, I would be in favor of limits or the elimination of the pardon for president period. - I don't think-- - Well, they look at it. - Or you get a number, you just sleep.

You get five, that's like a good idea. It's an literal get out of jail for free card. - If you're like more criminals than five than you're gonna have a problem. - This is the other thing that I think

that the candidate that will end up being victorious in the Democratic Party,

“I think that they should be offering solutions”

that actually limit the power of the presidency

and the fact that Congress is completely basically

through its hands up and said to the president, you could do whatever hell you want. There needs to be some reigning in of this. And the fact that we are waging a war, it is a war without congressional approval, is also illegal.

There was no cleared president threat. And the only threat we've heard is BB Netanyahu who has said for 40 years, that Iran is three months away from a nuclear weapon. He has said that for four--

you could find clips that go way back. So I think we need-- - He's saying it for 30 years. - Yeah, I think it's a justice, like you said. Rich, there's these to be a justice agenda, which includes prosecuting people limiting the powers

and doing things to make sure that this doesn't happen. Again, how do we, what law stops that from happening again in the future without handcuffing the president's ability to respond?

“Is it have to be a retaliation that they're allowed to do?”

Or how do we stop preemptive forever wars being an option for the president without handcuffing our ability to defend ourselves? - Well, that's a great question. And then I will also circle back with the about what needs

to happen about the justice agenda. So in terms of what law is being violated. So I want to be very clear. There was no justification. There was no reason for us to go into Iran

in as much as people do not like Iraq to do not like Afghanistan.

There is no precursor.

There is no reason for us to be in Iran.

So typically, and this is something that Barack Obama has spent a lot of time thinking about.

“We have this concept called proportional response, right?”

So say if something happens in the Middle East to one of our partners is a strong word. Maybe one of our friends, like with Iraq one. We go in, we keep our promise to our friend, and we get out, right?

Or if Syria bombs its civilians, and we take it upon ourselves to have some sort of proportional response. So we go in and we blow up a facility that maybe makes the chemical drug. There are reasons for the U.S. to respond in different situations.

Iran is us going in because Israel and possibly Saudi Arabia wanted us to go in. So I need those things to be separate. There was no provocation. There was no reason.

We are simply there illegally. We started in illegal war with a country killing its citizens, yes, doing horrific things, yes. But that was not why we went in, right? This is at the behest of another country.

And that is the issue, that is the problem. And what I will say about the Justice agenda, which I completely agree with, and I want to remind people, be be out here, would warrant. Just a while.

Right. He, how do you want to warrant? Right. And in terms of what needs to happen,

the issue is the problem is the presidency in it of itself.

No one wants to run for office where they may need to cannibalize themselves, right? So one of the reasons why people run for president, although we say we don't have a king or a queen in this country, is because you imagine you're going to be shielded

from certain challenging decisions you may have to make. And those typically are around foreign policy decisions. So in terms of getting someone to run for 28, to stand on a justice agenda, to stand on accountability, not to part and trump, not to make the mistake of Nixon,

we need to have a candidate that will be OK with presidents not being fully protected. And that is going to be a hard sell. Additionally, like with law enforcement, one of the reasons why people become cops is because,

“you know, the culture says, we will protect you, right?”

You, you, you, you are safe here, you know, you may have to make hard calls and hard choices, but we have your back. It's the same thing with being president of the United States. The law has your back, essentially, right?

So we need a candidate out there, we're rich that's standing on justice, standing on accountability, but also we need a candidate out there that isn't interested in doing things as they were. That world is great.

That world is done. So when you're looking at a Gavin Newsom, who is very status quo, I don't know. I don't know. He talks a good game, dependent on who he's speaking to,

but people are looking for authenticity, because they're going to pull up those receipts. People are looking for a fighter, not just for their own ends, but for all of us. Yeah, that's true.

“What I think that the, the person who runs has to show”

that like they're willing to take some negative with the positive, right? I think that that will go a long way. And I think it has to be someone authentic, but somebody that speaks to that in a new path forward. I haven't heard a new path forward, right?

I mean, no. - Yeah. - No, no. No, no. - No, no. - No, no. Right, we're all waiting on that. - Yeah. - But no, I don't wish that. - I got to push back on the no justification for the word to run.

Yeah, Caroline left, Caroline, exactly. Caroline, Lev, it told us that Trump had a premonition. - Oh, it's so like, we thought that we were gonna get attacked. So, therefore, he bombed a school full of children, his response, and then tried to say we didn't do it.

Girl, school, that other Republicans have now said, our better off dead, rather than being in Berkha's, these are the people that we're dealing with here. And that person who said that also has been credibly accused of sexual assault by several men,

but anyways, that's a whole different thing. So, the other thing that's disturbing about this war, outside of all of the things we've done already, is that we got word this morning or late last night that I believe we are sending two to 3,000 marines

to the Middle East, destination, TPD,

always find it. - Oh, the 85th, the 85th,

the 85th, their parents are here. - Airborne, it's about their balance. - Yeah, yep. - So, you know, marines, I have no military background, but I know enough to know that like the marines

are generally the first ones in, especially with an amphibious soul. - That's a specific unit, yeah.

So, is this Trump negotiating or is this Trump invading? - Well, he's negotiating with his invisible friends, I guess in his dream state. - Right. - I guess that can happen, right.

So, this is what's so interesting about all of this. And I've actually been talking to a few folks about their, there are a few possibilities, especially with bringing the 85th in. That definitely isn't about peace.

And, you know, there are some similarities to Vietnam here, but there is one major difference. And I saw the episode that you all did on it. So, I, at some point, Vietnam was one of the case studies

“that I was working on, I think in my PhD program.”

And one of the things that's so interesting about the Vietnam case that is very different with this.

First of all, JFK, JFK, well, he was an actual,

he actually served as we all know. And he was also a student of the world. And so, JFK actually warned his own military against going into Vietnam. Why?

Because he had been there in 1951. He had seen the resolve of the people. He had seen the challenging terrain and he brought that intel back, and he was not listened to. Donald Trump is not that type of person.

He is not that kind of leader. He is not that kind of president. That is a major difference here, right? So, you had a person at the helm of Vietnam at one point who did not want to go into Vietnam, right?

Where Trump seems to be all in without knowing what he is doing.

And when you have a buildup of military personnel,

“like that in country, this is not a humanitarian”

mission. This, to my mind, is in invasion. And there are conversations about where this competition actually happened. So, there's the island of hearts, there's Keshim,

and then there's also an area on a border Pakistan that could give, that could give the United States, some sort of tactical advantage. But Iran's geography makes all of these different things very, very difficult.

So, trying to figure out exactly where they're going to land and what the motive is. I mean, I don't have a crystal ball, but this is all about oil, y'all. This is all about oil.

So, it stands to reason that it's going to have something to do with the straddle her moves or even at the native, which is Keshim, and will we be deployed in that area to fight for the straddle her moves? This is what we need to keep an eye on.

Are we deploying American soldiers because we are wanting to fight for control for the street? That's just a question that's out there. Oh, that's great. Oh, yeah, Dandy, that's like every sitting

or prodding all this. Y'all speechless. Oh, congratulations. That might be one of the first times ever. Yeah.

Well, and the thing, the thing that, you know,

“I think everyone's seen this by now, but Trump, the other day,”

said that he was not going to strike the-- at first, he threatened to strike their energy production capabilities. Then he said, oh, we've had great talks with Iran. So, we're going to pause for five days.

Trump always a delay, right?

There's all we talk about, right? Two week Trump always chickens out. Two week Trump. And then it turns out that Iran had not talked to Donald Trump, but who had talked to Donald Trump, we're a bunch of our allies,

who were basically like, what the hell are you doing? We saw the Macron texts from before because Trump leaked them. Weirdly, they didn't make him look good. The Greenland ones? No, the ones where he was-- oh, yeah, it was Greenland.

Sorry, it wasn't Iran. But they all think he's an idiot, of course. All ready. But like, what? So like, what are we doing in this middle period,

because we haven't been talking to Iran? Unless they're telling Trump, because I heard that there was a story this morning that said that they're not actually giving Trump all of the accurate information, because they're trying to not make him mad,

which is really, really problematic. Not childish at all. Not surprising, though. No. So do we have any support amongst any of our allies

on this incursion? Is there anybody who's like, yeah, besides I'm not counting Israel, but they clearly do. But like, is there anybody else with us? Well, really, what could happen is we have a damn moment

and what I mean by that is, is countries might be forced to get involved, because we're at a food bar stage, and they might just be like, damn, okay. You know, to protect our insurers, we might have to get involved with this be as we don't want to be involved with.

That could be one of the situations and what I suspect that this regime is trying to force people to do.

about, we are not about to get involved in this mess.

This is y'all saying, we don't have anything to do with it. Oh, and America, by the way, your leader sucks. Oh, so, you know, there hasn't, it's not just like a, it's a no for me dog, but it's also like, very hardcore pushback from some of these leaders.

No one wants this war, no one fully understands it. And they definitely don't want to go to war, because this is something that BB Netanyahu wants. Yeah, I saw this thing yesterday or the day before, that was the most terrifying thing I've ever seen.

“Where I was like, I think it was a political whole amongst people from like”

Canada, the UK, I think it was Germany and one of the one of our major allies. The large percentage of them, given Trump's current actions and who he is, would rather be aligned with China than us in these countries? Yeah, that's how big the shit is. Like that, I looked at that and like how the, I mean, it makes sense, right?

Like we're looking at it all, it makes sense. But like that's sort of when I look at all this in totality, to me, that's really the end consequence, where it's like, all this stuff short term, it's bad, it's whatever, like great, the real danger to me, long term is like, we are going to lose our standing in this world

and countries like China are going to take the standing we had. Like there's nobody else in the back. Oh, my goodness, my top stack article is that. [LAUGHTER] I made these familiar.

But it's true. It advocating to China, definitely. And you know, I will tell you in the last administration, that was definitely one of the things that we were focused on. China, China, China, almost to the point where, you know,

some people were like, okay, enough with the China threat, we get it. But what we are doing is just making it easy for China to be more of the sympathetic state than what it actually is, you know, 100%. We are talking about our core dictatorship, right? And being in a space world, you know, China, I can't have a conversation

without space without China because that is the constant competitor that we are worried about. And so not only have we advocated our diplomatic role, you know, around the world,

because this administration believes in a aggressive material deterrence first posture.

But we've also made China more sympathetic. So they are owning a narrative, and they are making, they're also gaining new clients and customers. Great. Great. Wow, actually, this is all wonderful.

Well, let's, let's move to another wonderful thing. Another great topic. Another rosy topic that it was disclosed this morning. I don't know who reported it first. But that the documents, the Donald Trump stole from the White House when he went to Marlaga,

were so highly classified that only six, the number six, six people in the federal government, who even knew what were in them.

“Now, I'm not asking you to tell us, Dola, what's in, and I think also there was an assumption”

that those documents Trump took them because there were some business dealings where he could benefit from that information. Now, I'm not asking you to tell me what's in the documents. But how rare is it to have a document that only six people in the federal government have access to? Okay, just so we can clear this up, because I know a lot of people out there actually think I'm a real spy.

I'm not, I don't know what's in those documents. Okay, I just want to make that clear. So, you know, security clearance, this is a huge thing for me right now, because him, you know, it's not an easy process to get your security clearance, right? And the smallest infraction will get you put in jail, okay?

Not just fire, but I mean, jail, it may be even disappear. You don't want to be like depending on what's in the documents, right? National security in this country once upon a time was the most serious currency, right? Intel is currency, secrets are currency, which Donald Trump understands as a want to be gangster. He gets that.

He understands that secrets are currency, which is why he took them, right? He understands that you can probably blackmail people.

“I don't know if that's what he's doing, but, you know, there are a lot of people out there”

asking questions the way that somebody's congressional electives are moving like, "Damn,

what does he have on these people?" You know, but the point here is, first of all, I'm glad

that Jack Smith is talking, because this is important. This was the one case that I was looking at, and I actually thought it was going to be the case that put him underneath the jail, because it absolutely should have been the case to put

I don't care if you are the president of the United States, but if there's evidence that you are taking home such classified documents that has direct dealings with your company, you have done something illegal. I don't see how presidential powers protect a president when there's a clear violation of self-interest and self-dealing, right? I get very angry the way that Trump won and Trump to mishandles

security clearances and the way that they punish people by taking them away if they don't like you. But folks, I need you to understand, when you get clear, it's a whole process, because the information that you have, what you know about this country, it's vital. And we're talking about actual people's lives. People that go out that that that collect that data, they are risking their lives. It's one of the reasons why the national security apparatus exists the way that it does,

one of the major reasons being to protect our intel assets. Trump doesn't get that.

So I have a, this may be the most important question that I have ever asked.

And I'm not a spy. And I'm not asking you about it being spy. Agree or disagree. A bathroom in an unsecured building is the best place to store documents that only six people are legally allowed to see. True or false, no, true or false. False and you just put a visual in my head about Donald Trump's McDonald's.

“Hey, we see it. And so, God, that's what I'm saying. What are the odds and words and six people”

on planet Earth would go into a bathroom that Donald Trump has used? That's the real question. That might be the most. This is version of Reader's Digest. It's like an adult changing station. Thank you, Reader's Digest. I don't think he reads it all. He definitely doesn't read it.

They have to write, put charts. They've said, this came on the first term. They have to put

charts and graphs and nothing. People are in a page. Okay. Yeah, literally a picture book. Only since you brought it up, there was a delicious headline this morning from NBC News. Inside Trump's daily video montage briefing on the Iran War. So they have to keep it up. This is, this is keeping your kid distracted at Chilli's as you wait for the food to come. Miss Rachel, they put them is Rachel on for Trump for real.

Yeah, Chilli's on the bad guys. Charlie's on the bad guys. Charlie's on the bad. He's the kid wiping his boogers on the balls and the ball pit. You know, that was him in a play place permanently. Yeah, I like that. I mean, I don't know. He's just lost. They'll have an amusement park that

is just like just like tells him how amazing he is. Put it over the shrine to Trump.

You can say, I'll pay my tax dollars can go to that if it gets him away for us. You know, as wild when I take the basin, sometimes to go to Georgetown and to see his name on a Kennedy Center. Like that does something to me almost every single time I pass it. Like I can't even it does something to me emotionally and spiritually. It's like it's it's dictatorship. I was the last time I was in DC. I took a cab from Union Station and you go down was a constitution and what on

the Department of Labor. Oh, yes. A giant, giant poster of him. Yeah, put myself on a coin. I don't even think that's the only one that he's on the 250. Yeah, I thought they had to be dead. Is that not sure? Maybe it's a huge game or something. No, it's not matter in this administration.

“No, what are we going to do in here? I think it's one of those like toothless internal”

policies that you don't put a sitting president on a coin because that's kind of like dictator. And here there was one thing that I actually supported the Donald Trump did and now he's rude to for me, which was to get rid of the penny. I think that he's dumb and it's wasted money. Great. But now he's not a dollar coin instead, makes life vindigates all of that. So I don't even have that anymore, but you know. So just to just to wrap this one up. Yeah, because because it's so good.

The Daily Montage, this is what the NBC article says. The Daily Montage typically runs for about two minutes, sometimes longer. One official described each Daily video as a series of clips of stuff blowing up. And yeah, feeling fueling concerns among some of fueling concerns, deeply like Susan Collins concern among some of Trump's allies that he may may not be receiving or absorbing

“the complete picture of the war. And that's what's driving his frustration with the news coverage”

of the war is he's looking at the news and it doesn't match his highlight reel that his spoon fed to him every morning by the people who are afraid to give him bad news. So this is going to go

climate is. Yeah, because Trump bought them for him. I got the wrong side. Mr. President. I got

“sure. So he comes flopping in and he's like, we got we got we got some blow up shit Trump. He's like,”

yeah. I mean, this is like two minute videos. This is like showing a three year old a pink long video. Yeah. They're just playing it. Oh, they play it over and over again. He's like, me show things go boom. Yeah. Like that. What? Like I. Oh, with his shiny tacky gold, you know, like just just the whole everywhere. The whole dictator, you know, kind of mismistique. Like it's it's far so cool. And it would be hilarious. It would be a great reality show if we

weren't living through it. Like if I wasn't another country and I wasn't an American, I would be watching this shit daily with popcorn like this is. Oh, sorry. But we are literally living through it. And there's nothing funny about it. You know, I definitely think about our service members. It's it's one thing to sign up to fight for your country. But it's another thing to sign up and fight at the behest of another country and for president. I'm all for, you know,

civilians being in the security and defense apparatus, you know, like myself. But when you have a civilian who's in charge who doesn't respect the military, that is what I have a problem with. Because if people like say for instance, if people volunteering to go into the military, if that number continues to dip, and there really is no incentive for a black person to sign up to serve under Trump. And then say if they answered the draft, we all know that his youngest child

is not going. We know that. No, no. Oh, God. Well, he's not already found his bones first. He's

in the military. We talked about, we talked about this once ago, but they changed some orders in the military where there were some exemptions from the no beard policy because black men in particular that have a, there's a higher chance of getting like immigrants. So they allowed them to have beards. And then these, these fuckers were like, no. Yeah. And took that away, partially because they want an all white military that's be honest, right? And people of color generally

are not like as supportive of this administration. So they do these things. And they want a white nationalist military. Right. Sorry. They don't want that. They don't want it. They don't want us. And honestly, honestly, honestly, the military doesn't want to see them. It's totally fine that

we are, we are not. I would be objective at best. So no, this is maybe my second most important

question ever. So are you suggesting that the former weekend to anchor of Fox and friends is not the person that should be waging a war in the Middle East? I got to say a prayer because, you know, first of all, first of all, who will never, and my black life referred to DOD as the Department of War issue number. Oh, no, no way. Go. Go. And secondly, it is so clear that what they are trying to do is so clear, blurring the lines between church and state. And there

“was a case a couple years ago. I cannot remember that case where I was like, okay, it was a,”

it was a church and state case. And at that time, I was like, okay, this is going to be a problem. This is going to be dangerous. And one of the reasons we were, one of the ways we're seeing this is what Hexet and what he's trying to do with the military. Now, part of this kind of comes out of the totalitarian playbook. You want to nationalize, you know, the military. You want to nationalize education. You want people out there fighting under a specific ideology, not necessarily

protecting, you know, US interests and keeping us safe domestically and abroad. But you want to bring in this kind of nationalistic perspective, right? That is untrue and that alienates most of the military. One of the reasons why our military has been so effective is because once upon a time, the military understood diversity as its number one strength, Hexet completely rejects that

“idea. And I think we're seeing the results of it. I mean, we're seeing this Fubar, not only because”

there aren't any black folks in the room, but are there any bearded Middle Eastern folks in the room probably not, right? There was, there were expert Middle East folks completely gutted within the bureaucracy of the federal government from state to DOD. Like, there has been an intentional gutting of people knowing what they're doing, right? Because the idea is, well, you know, Trump, you know, Trump, Trump knows what he's doing, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. That is a mistake. Trump

I didn't mean to know. Yes. No, I should have hit the applause button on the other hand, I've got

“it. Damn, it was good. I mean, my one time, I could have like actually gotten it correct. And I,”

I totally screwed it up. But we here we go. I can't get it going. Thank you, Greg. That's the best we got. Why isn't it playing? I don't know. Someone took it away from them. Yeah, they took away a toddler's toy. Why is that not playing? God damn it. What's that? Do it. But you actually looking for an applause button? There is an applause button. And now I'm stuck on it. And I can't, like, I can't get this goddamn thing to play. Good. Why is it a plague? Play.

This is a moment for you. This is a boomer moment for you. Is this what it looks like when Trump tries to order McDonald's? There it is. It's true. They love it. They need more. They need more. He's going. He's this one. Oh, man. Well, don't know where I'm taking that off. I don't remember

“what we were talking about. Can we get the producers to take that away from Tim?”

I am the producer. No, I'm just kidding. No, I'm going to keep doing it just doing away, everybody.

But we are, we're going to close the time here. So we're going to go to second. But I'm going

to ask you an impossible question, which is what do you see the outcome of this war being? What is the most likely scenario? We are going to have thousands of troops deployed. They're there for a reason. And it's not going to go. However, the U.S. thinks it's going to go because Iran is literally waiting on us to do the thing. The same way that they were waiting on the U.S. and Israel to bomb them, which is why they had a response and under an hour. They have been very

clear and very vocal about bring it. This is not the first time Iran has lived through extreme situations, right? This is not the first time that the Iranian people have been strained financially, right? So in a way where we're not used to it at all because we're like losing our minds because gas here in Maryland is like, you know, four dollars and people are like, you know, coming from LA, that's actually pretty cheap. But my point is,

the reason why I'm worried that it's going to be a forever war is simply because you cannot accurately predict what the other person is going to do and how they are going to respond. Now, the longer this goes on, it does open up possibilities for other countries to get involved, even if they don't want to get involved because it's going to be costly, not just to the United States, but to the entire international community. Someone has a state somewhere and either

energy, fertilizer, all the different things that passes through the street that's connected to the street, this will impact global stability. And so at some point, it will come to an end because other countries will get irritated about how it's affecting them. I don't think Trump really cares

“about how it affects us. I don't think he cares at all. I think he thinks that we should be grateful”

and that we should take the punches because he magically believes that we appreciate him being our dear leader. I think that's probably part of his show until every morning. I doubt they show him the actual poll numbers for our Americans are thinking and feeling, but I hope it's not a forever war and I also hope that there are tribunals because, yes, Richard, I agree with you, it needs to be a justice agenda and it can't just be a lot of flowery and buttery words,

Trump and the rest of these people need to be held accountable in the global community deserves to see accountability. Well, on that note, that Nola, thank you very much. Obviously, it's not an optimistic ending, but try like the idea of tribunals. Tribunals sound great. I'm

in on that, but yet, Nola, thank you very much. It's always great to have you on the show.

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“good news, though. I don't know what that would be at this point. I'm just trying to end”

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