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And a guy named Captain Tomol Dag is driving home down a busy highway in El Dorado County, California. It's nearly 7pm. Captain Tom is a fire investigator with California's department of forestry and fire protection. He's steadily making his way through the rush hour traffic when his phone starts to buzz. It's his battalion chief.

You're supposedly a firefighter wearing a calfoyre uniform who had overdosed up in place of commercial hospital. This isn't the kind of call Captain Tom would usually receive. For the most part, his job as law enforcement evolves determining the origin and cause of a fire. But he can see immediately why this situation has raised concern. It didn't make any sense if somebody had overdosed if there were a uniform the fire engine would have brought him in.

This guy has overdosed. He's wearing a uniform. But he hasn't been brought in by a fire truck or any colleagues. So, as the sky begins to fade to twilight, instead of heading home, Captain Tom caused cracks. You could hear beeping and all that from monitors and people walked in back and forth. 16 minutes later, Captain Tomol Dag arrives at the emergency room of Marshall Hospital in Placeville, California.

Can I see his uniform? The firefighter he's there to see has been changed into a hospital gown. Carted off to a bed in the emergency room, divided from the rest by hospital curtains. So, Captain Tom is able to take a close look at the clothes he's arrived in. Calfoyre patches on bushholders, he had a blue shirt, kind of like what we used.

But the bugles that were on his collar brass didn't match.

It was just a generic badge.

“Captain Tom gets permission to search the firefighters car.”

In there, he finds receipts for the uniforms, pill bottles, unfilled prescriptions. And that just kind of started the ball rolling. Captain Tom talks to the local battalion chief who's at the hospital that evening. And he just had a weird look on his face and he goes, "I don't recognize the guy." Captain Tom pierced around the hospital curtain at the man in question.

"I didn't recognize him either." The guy laying on that emergency room bed in 2005, an IV in his arm. Hospital gown on, segregated from the rest of the busy emergency room by curtains. Claiming to be a firefighter is none other than Derek Ordret. When Derek Ordret pled guilty to charges, that would see him sentenced to 24 years in prison.

It was far from his first run-in with the justice system.

More than 10 years earlier, Derek found himself in the crosshairs of one determined fire investigator in California. "You're a professional doctor. Part of my job was to go and see and then try to figure it out." Captain Tom will spend weeks making sense of what he's seeing. And when he does... "I got him again, pointy, and I said, "Hey, Derek, remember me."

"I'm Anison Field, and from the teams at Novel and I heart podcast, you're listening to the girlfriends." "Trust me babe." Bonus episode three, blazing lies. He had an IV in him, he was pretty worn out, looked like he was tired. You could say he was out to lunch because he had overdosed.

Derek Ordret is lying in a California hospital in 2005.

He had taken drugs, narcotics, and he took too many, and he admitted to doing that, and he was out of it. But you could talk to him and ask him, "You know, questions like, "Where do you work?" And he goes, "Well, he worked at a fire station, okay, which one?"

“Fire station just down the road, okay, what fire station just down the road?”

Well, you know that fire station, okay, what department do you work for? "Did you think it's low-odd that you have some uniform in your car?" "You're wearing some uniforms?" "I guess I should have told all of that don't have it." Listening to the actual audio from Captain Tom's interview with Derek Ordret,

in that emergency room that evening. "Are you a porous CDF there?" "Eath part of CDF, Derek, Tom's asking. CDF, California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection." "I'm training right now."

"I'm training right now," replies Derek. "I train, yes, so there should be a record through the CDF files if you're being a member of their training." Captain Tom has already checked. There are no Derek Ordret's in CDF training.

"What? Why would that be?" "Well, I do. I do just want to be a porous CDF." "Derek Force Corax tells Captain Tom that he's been in training to be a paramedic in the evenings." "So there's no affiliation on CDF."

“"Yeah, so there's no reason why you should have CDF.”

We'll be in our uniforms at any point during the time." "I held up a shirt and said, "No, this badge, it's not a real badge." "Where did you get that badge?" "Just online." "Do you buy it online?"

Captain Tom cuts to the point. "Is that what you're doing to selling yourself off as a firefighter?" "Tick people who don't know you?" "That's not my intent, but that's the way it looks." "Yeah, because that's a serious way."

"Derek admits to wearing the uniforms despite not being a firefighter." "But the question remains." "Why?" "We're just trying to find out." "Why?"

"It's just a family phone."

"Well, it's just not a day long.

It would be a traumatic firefighter." "Who is day?" "My mom." "Derek claims he just wanted to make his family proud." "A series of bad decisions that just snowballed."

“"In order to be a firefighter, you have to go through train accident and training."”

"To be a good firefighter takes a while." "It's an honorable job, most people trust firefighters." "And here's somebody who is using an abusing that right." "It's a serious thing to impersonate a firefighter." "But Captain Tom suspects that actually there's something much, much more serious going on here."

"And just a simple guy pretending to be a firefighter for his mom." "The big kicker was in his pocket was a prescription from the Widdling Clinic which is in another county." "It's in Yellow County." "That just started the ball rolling." "The receipt has work as compensation written on it."

"According to the evidence, Captain Tom has plaques it." "The guy's unemployed." "And he has a suspicion." "You're dressing up like a firefighter to get narcotics to get drugs." "Because he's impersonating us, our occupation, what we are."

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"Selivate pride with the outspoken network on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts." "Open your free I Heart Radio app, search Pride and listen now." In the days after meeting Derek, Captain Tom gets in his car. There is one obviously to start with. Woodland Clinic in Yolo County, his prescription he found in Derek's pocket.

"They remembered him because he was a firefighter who came in, said he was in training and earned himself."

“One pharmacist tells him that a guy wearing a CDF uniform dropped some paperwork in the parking lot.”

And that somebody handed it in. They fish the paper out of the garbage and give it to Captain Tom. It was a doctor's note from another clinic. With it, there were two prescriptions, a copy to be returned to one's employer and a name, Richard Aldrich.

Captain Tom heads to the second clinic on the same day.

And they confirmed that Derek came in seeking medical help, wearing a CDF uniform. "He would walk in and say, "Hey doc, I injured my trapezius muscle. I was thrown a 50 foot ladder." "My scene plausible to medical clinic staff, but not to a season firefighter like Captain Tom." "It's like dude." "There's no way you could pick up a ladder that big."

"Even if it's a 35 foot ladder, it's like now, I don't think so." Captain Tom works his way through all the clinics he can trace to Derek. "I know he went over 20 and that's in like less than a month." Captain Tom talks to as many people as he can find, who remember interactions with Derek.

“"I think I interviewed over 30 people, because I went to every clinic."”

And a pattern begins to emerge.

He would use different aliases, all slight variations of his name. Like Derek Aldrich, Derek Aldrich, Derek Aldrich, Richard Aldrich, he starts to build up a list. "I had him run all the different names that I had, social security numbers that I found on him, or that he had used." Occasionally, Derek would be asked for verification of his credentials. But more often than not, he'd get access to prescriptions easily.

In his investigation, Captain Tom finds out more on the impressive length Derek went to to perfect his lives. He had EMT books, emergency medical technician books, so he could go in to a doctor's office and he could talk to Lingo. And that struck up more. It's like he's doing a lot more than just drug-seeking.

I mean, he's really intelligent.

He could remember everything. And it was just, it was crazy. Derek also had some more extreme tricks up his sleeve.

“He would go into a hospital, say, "Doc, I'm having a heart attack, I think blah blah blah."”

And they'd give him morphine because the pain is on a scale of 1 to 10, it's a 9 or it's a 10. So they're going to do that, coming down, to run blood tests and everything. He would get his fix, undo his IV, and walk out. To me, this crazy, the people at the pharmacies or the urgent care clinic visit is very personal, real friendly. Everyone thought he was a firefighter.

He was very smooth. It's the story that I got from everybody. He was a very smooth talker in a new what he was doing. Soon after figuring out Derek's movements in El Dorado and Yolo County, Captain Tom's investigations extended to other parts of California. With evidence found in Sacramento County, Lacer County and the Bay Area.

He was nonstop, just going and going, that was his full-time job. And because of his so-called firefighting credentials, sometimes the prescription drugs Derek was accessing were even free. He filled out the paperwork. And because it's an injured firefighter, the Steena California would pick up the tab. By simply showing up in a uniform and being a convincing liar.

Derek managed to exploit a system that was set up to help people. It's not a victimless crime that's whether people care or not, and I cared. It was bad. It's just, he's already overdosed, he was in the hospital overdosed. He put him behind the wheel.

All he had to do was crash into somebody. And if I'm doing an investigation on him, and I don't stop that, then I would have a hard time with that. But not everyone feels the same way. I was told at one point, leave it alone, just walk away. The higher-ups are concerned by how much Captain Tom is putting into this.

You know, you think that doing an investigation, it's 45 minutes and commercials, and it's not. He's even gathering evidence on his days off. People higher up in the organization. They thought I was too fixated on him. Any other right I was, but at the same time, there was something special about him.

He was special. He needed special attention. Over two weeks, Captain Tom assembles a report, and it's extensive.

And laid it out. This is what I have.

“And this guy's working hard at it. He needs to get in trouble.”

An arrest warrant is written up for Derrick. The next day, Derrick Cordread is standing at a pay phone outside of Place of Elm at Donald's. He's just getting ready to hang up the phone. When a truck pulls up to the sidewalk next to him, Captain Tom steps out. I got him again in point. I said, "Hey, Derrick, remember me."

And he said, "Just I do." And I said, "Okay, cool. I have a warrant for your arrest." Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, Beach News? We created our own podcast.

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I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers. Well, this is how you guys remember it going down.

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, "Hey, Jonas." And then I broke down on my little note pad. Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title.

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Then I also had the medical records, the signature, and all the different variations of how he would use his name.

I could compile all that. At a pay phone, outside of a McDonald's, Captain Tom had put Darycordrad in handcuffs. Put him in the back of the truck and transported him back to the police station. And now that they're arrived, a new challenge awaits. Interviewing Darycordrad directly.

My whole goal was to get him to talk to me and tell me his story.

“And so that's why Brazilians are being nice.”

Hey, how are you doing? You want some water, want some gatorade? Captain Tom has been in the job for many years. He knows that this kind of interview is a careful dance. One that begins with making sure Daryc feels comfortable.

Just getting a little history about him, him growing up, etc. And then he appeared to be kind of stressed when I got done with that. So we gave him like 10 minutes, where I said, you know, you need some time to yourself. I said, let me turn the lights off and just put your head down. And he put his head on the table and bent over and we turn the lights off and give him a break.

Well, Daryc takes a break, head down on a desk, baseball cap on.

Captain Tom thinks about his strategy. I didn't want to go down any road where I was, you know, could be considered a jerk to him. He doesn't like confrontation. He didn't like to be accused.

I definitely knew he had an ego. I said, you know what I'm doing? I'm going there and I'm going to tell him he's the best liar I've ever met in my life. Now I'm going to shake your hand, you're very good at what you do. Well, you're going to get Daryc, you're very good.

Aren't you? Not something like that. You know, aren't you very good? Well, yeah. It's a good one.

You're doing it for a long time. Okay. And what's the main story? Because you've got a story and I'm telling you man, you're good. Aren't you?

I don't think so. I mean, I'll come on. Stroke, pat yourself on the back of your good. Well, I talked to him about him being a good liar and all that. I'm trying to get him to acknowledge.

And I'm trying to give him some control back. You can get doctors, you can get clinics, you can get people to pharmacies. Now I'll buy you into it.

“Pharmacies, you know, the prescription's already done, right?”

That's pretty easy, isn't it? Yeah. But now I'm going to clean it where you have professionals who are there. And you walk in and represent yourself as what? I've represented myself as it executive as a firefighter as you name it.

Okay. Captain Tom also lays out the information he has in front of Derek. I know that you've been around in person in a firefighter. I know that. Okay.

Because well, that's my job. Yeah.

To investigate what I always tell people that I'm a puzzle maker.

I mean, you've put the pieces of the puzzle to them. Yeah. And a lot of times the puzzles will point to a direction or something, right? Now he wants Derek to come to the table himself. What's harder to do?

To do something wrong or to admit you made a mistake? I guess for me, it would be, there's so much to ask you. Yeah, probably it made them sick. Okay.

“So can you start admitting the mistakes you've made where you've gone dressed as a firefighter?”

Fill it out, forms. What is it going to take for me to get you to admit to that? It's not going to take anything. Okay. I couldn't tell you where I've gone to do that.

Except I really don't remember. I just don't. I mean, I've been to, you know, shoot. I've been to a lot of places. Okay.

Starting in places. Oh boy. It works. Derek starts talking. He begins to list clinics.

The same ones kept in Tom investigated. Yeah, I would just shock. He remembered it. Plus, he provides the names of additional clinics. Explains in more detail how he was able to scam them with his infamous ladder injury story.

I can tell you one time in particular, the number clear is a bell because I wasn't totally out of my tree. I set a injured my shoulder. I think that what the specific reason I used was that I was moving, I was lifting something heavy off the back of the truck.

And heavy object was I? Like a ladder or something like that. And give me the story. How you would tell him? After a bit of back and forth, Derek begins to explain.

I'd say, injured my shoulder. And I just need to have someone take a look at it. Okay. How did you injured your shoulder? I don't know.

I would give varying reasons. You know, something very, you know, stupid mundane.

And there was more before pretending to be a firefighter.

“Derek had also tried to defraud people by impersonating other professions.”

He had mentioned he was up in South Dakota earlier at the previous winner. And he was impersonating executives of companies just to get stuff. And a blew me away that he really wants to go and be someone different. This is more than a decade before getting caught for impersonating a naval officer. Financial executives.

Successful business owners. To gain the trust of women across the states. Captain Tom is surprised by how calm Derek is throughout the confession. I still don't understand how a person can do what he did. Normal people, if they got caught or you think they would be nervous and scared.

But he wasn't. It didn't phase him. He did not have any issue with him. Putting on a firefighter uniform. Walk into a medical office.

Seeing doc I injured myself. I needed prescription. It just amazes me.

“The only thing Derek felt bad about his etiquac heart.”

At first, Derek Wardread is indicted on a series of charges.

That include insurance fraud, prescription drug fraud, misrepresentation as a firefighter, and burglary. In the end, he'll make a plea deal. Please no contest to a couple of the burglary charges. And the rest are dismissed.

He'll spend a year and a half in a county jail. And be on probation for another couple of years after that. And Captain Tom goes back to his normal life. And his work as a fire investigator. Until one day, many years later, when he's already retired,

he gets another unexpected call. Hey, do you know a Derek Aldread? Yeah. Almost two decades have passed since Captain Tom lost her that name. And Derek has gotten up to a lot in the intervening years.

It's like, oh my god, I could not believe it. I couldn't believe what he had done. He was a predator. When he was dealing narcotics, he was a predator. You know, with every woman that he had a relationship with,

he was always pretending to be somebody better than himself.

But in a way, no one knew better than Captain Tom. What Derek Aldread was really capable of. He puts his uniform on, goes to work, steals from people, and he does it over and over again. And then he does it on steroids when he's doing it to these women.

It blows my mind. I can't comprehend the stuff that he did to these women. And he was able to get away with it. It wasn't until the women started researching him and doing their homework that actually got him. I can't help but wonder whether all the pain Derek inflicted over the years

could have been prevented. If more law enforcement felt the way Captain Tom did. When I worked in law enforcement, I cared. I took the job to do a service to people. When a lot of them made appears that law enforcement didn't want any part of it.

Coming up in the next bonus episode of The Girl Friends Trust Me Babe.

“Why did it take so long to bring Derek's crime spree to an end?”

How are you allowing this person who's clearly done these heinous crimes to continue to be set free or to get away from y'all? And has anything changed. The Girl Friends Trust Me Babe is produced by novel for I Heart Podcasts. For more from novel, visit novel.ordio.

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