Shatter Limiting Beliefs, Own Your Power & Change Your Life with Spirit Daughter Jill Wintersteen

aha over it right now. You have to allow yourself to feel to then fill your intuition.

Yes. When's the last time you marvel at your own amaziness at how you're living, breathing, miracle, emotion? When's the last time you celebrated with awe and wonder how your body is operating millions of micro-processes right now to keep you alive? How your mind can imagine up worlds and how your intuition has immense inner wisdom just waiting to be fully tapped into you. Today we're talking about how to shatter your limiting beliefs

awaken your intuition, own your power, and tap into your own amaziness. With Jill

interesting known to millions of people online and around the world as a spirit daughter. So many

of us are really held back and stunted by limiting beliefs. We're stunted by them. We

“convince ourselves that they're true. They hold us back. So how do we shatter limiting beliefs?”

Step one is we have so many thoughts all day long that are just running on default and we're not even consciously aware of them and they pop up and they come from our inner critic and they come from that part of ourselves that says we can't do this or this isn't for people like me or I didn't grow up with this or that or I don't have the credentials for this the good enough piece which it like plague so many of us. Then you get to do the work of changing them and eventually

retrain my brain to know that I want to choose this other narrative for myself. Jill's background blends neuroscience and psychology with expertise in alignment based yoga, Chinese medicine and astrology. She's the founder of spirit daughter creator of the moment at

“lunar manifestation experts celebrity astrologer and author of the brand new book called Spirit”

daughter. Oh, your power changed your life. And she's here in person in the studio today with you and me ready to talk about how we can shatter limiting beliefs unlock deep healing and manifest the life you desire. And whether today you're listening for yourself or because someone that you love shared this episode with you, I want to welcome you to the Jamie Kern Lee Michelle podcast family. Thank you so much for being here and can you take two seconds and do me a favor. Just hit the

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need some inspiration today or perhaps a boost in their self belief because what you're about to hear can truly impact mine yours and their lives too. Welcome to Jamie Kern Lee Michelle. Oprah, how have you defied the odds? Her show is unlike any I've ever done. A revelation when you listen it feels like a hug. First lady Michelle Obama, Jamie you are going so

deep. I have never had this in-depth conversation. I've actually never said that out loud to

anybody in an interview before you know how to get there. You're brain and your spirit and your heart is like wow the Linda French gates. When I look into Jamie's eyes I feel like I am on some other cosmic level with her. Megan that's just obsessive. I wasn't expecting that one. I could see the light around her. She's infused with light Maria Schriver and never made that mistake again. Imagine overcoming self doubt learning to believe in yourself and trust yourself

and know you are enough. Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lee Michelle. Jamie Kern Leeema's for name. Everybody needs Jamie Kern Leeema. Jamie Kern Leeema. Jamie Kern Leeema. Jill Winterstein. Welcome to the Jamie Kern Lee Michelle. Thank you. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy you're here also. We met and just had this great conversation. I learned about your new book, Spirit Daughter, which I know is much anticipated by millions of other people and I

so grateful to read it early copy of it. Right off the top, can you talk about why you wrote this and why there is so much anticipation about this book for the person who's maybe tuning in right now

we are going to dive into shattering limiting beliefs and all kinds of exciting things. I can't wait to talk

“about it. Okay, so I wrote this book. I really wanted people to know my story and so it's part”

memoir. It's part self-help, prescriptive, but it's a lot of memoir. It's a lot of my journey and I just felt that there was this gap between my online persona. People know me as Spirit Daughter. They see this beautiful, curated, Instagram feeds, beautiful life and I wanted people to really know the truth, the real raw, messy journey of how I got to be Spirit Daughter. And so for people who are in their own messy journey, I want them to feel inspired when they read this book to say, okay, like this,

if Jill did this with her life, I can do this too. And so it just felt like a really good moment and a calling to kind of close that gap between what people know about me and see about me and that kind of like polished version and, you know, my journey and being inspired by it. I wanted

to share the drawing not just the after. Yeah, I think that's really powerful. I think, you know,

now online, so many people just see sort of the person on the pedestal, especially in different worlds of whether it's faith or spirituality or manifestation or different thought leaders of all types and it can almost seem like unattainable or maybe not as relatable, maybe it's still aspirational but not quite as relatable. And I was saying to you, when we were walking here together, is that it's I think so much more powerful that you share the human part, like the human journey

“you've gone through to get to where you're at now because I think that's how so many people will”

connect to that and be like, oh, and then they'll see parts of themselves. Because seeing a lot of us, you know, we, we think that, oh, spiritual enlightenment can only happen to other people but we've made too many mistakes or we have too much self-doubt or we have failed too many times and I think I think the beauty is in that journey and so were you scared at all or feel vulnerable at all sharing some of the things you shared? Because you share them, you share them, I share them, I share

everything. And yes, it was a very, very vulnerable to write the book in the first place.

To have some of the first people, my editor read it. I think when I first set it into her, I like, just crawled in bed and like, hit all day. I had that feeling of like, no, what do you look at me? And then those moments of like, I can't believe I'm sharing this with this many people and still it felt like the right thing to do and still it's just like, yes, I need, I need to do this, I need to go forward with this vulnerability and really reach for what I feel is my

potential as a leader in my space by sharing who I am and sharing my journey. For the person just meeting you right now, for the first time, we're going to dive into shattering our limiting beliefs in a moment, for the person meeting you for the first time. What would you love for them

to know about you? Well, I'm a mom. I feel like I always like to leave with that because no matter

what is going on in my life of book launch or podcasts or anything else, like I'm a mom first always. I'm a Leo. So I'm here to Leo's are all about leading through vulnerability. And so a lot of my journey and even with this book, I've kind of leaned on that knowledge of like, wow, like this is how I lead through this vulnerability, through this openness, through this portal where everybody can see into me and that will actually just make me stronger of a leader. And then I'm also

the founder and owner of spirit daughter and where are we, you know, we have an online platform, we have workbooks, we have tools. I really started spirit daughter as a way to give people tools to inspire them, to show up for themselves, to commit to their own journey and to ultimately grow, to trust themselves, trust their intuition and really own their power. And a lot of ways, I feel like my journey of spirit daughter has been to bring this book to the world. And I even

talk about that and the end of the book that, you know, I wanted to write this book before I even thought of spirit daughter. I thought of this book first. Well, so many of us are, I really held back and stunted by limiting beliefs. We're stunted by them. We convince ourselves that they're true.

“They hold us back. So how do we, we shatter limiting beliefs?”

Step one is awareness. And so we can't change anything until we're aware of it. And we have so many thoughts all day long that are just running on default. And we're not even consciously aware of them

says we can't do this or this isn't for people like me or I didn't grow up with this or that or I don't have the credentials for this. And so it really begins with becoming aware of those thoughts, making those unconscious thoughts conscious. And so that takes some time. That takes a commitment to say, okay, I'm going to catch myself when I am, you know, in the middle of my day and I'm answering an email or some opportunity comes my way or I'm doing the dishes and I, and I'm going to catch

that repeating thought, whatever that might be. Oh, I can't do this. Oh, I don't look good enough. Oh, you know, I'm not this, that or the other thing. You know, the good enough piece which it like plague so many of us, you know, I don't have what it takes. So catching those thoughts and making that a diligent practice and writing them down, right? That's step one. And as ugly as they are

as horrible as they are because we say things to ourselves, we would never in a million years say that

anyone else ever. And it's, it's just mind blowing. I almost, I wish there was a device that could record all of our thoughts even just for a day for us. So we could look back and read them and we would be shocked. And so step one is just simple awareness and writing it down. And then you get to do the work of changing them. Then you get to say, okay, when I have this thought, I'm going to create this counterthought, this counter mantra, this counter affirmation and say that and eventually

retrain my brain to know that I want to choose this other narrative for myself that I'm not going to be defined by this old story, this old negative self-talk, these old patterns on repeat.

“But awareness is, is key. So awareness, write it down, write it down, write them down,”

you don't have to show anyone, just write it down, which I'm just, it's funny when you're saying that I'm thinking of all the thoughts I've already had this morning. But if I wrote this down, I would not want to read that paper about myself because you're right, we just all day long, right? They just come up and then you're saying, once you're aware of them, then you create a counterthought, which is like, okay, you know, when I have that thought of, oh, I'm not smart

never, not that whatever it might be, not this enough that enough, whatever it might be, what's

that counterthought, yeah, right, that you probably know in your soul is true. And then when you think that negative one, you're going to like literally catch yourself, which is it for, yep, yeah, it's time. It's a commitment. All of these practices really change the way we think about ourselves,

“because that's where it all starts to change our lives when you need to change how we're showing”

up for ourselves or commitments to our practices that are ultimately going to change our behavior and what we think is possible. It starts with saying, okay, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this for 30 days. I'm going to do this for 20 days. And that's why I love working with astrology and like the lunar cycles because we have this perfect 30-day container. You can say on a new moon, I'm going to start doing this. It's the new moon. I'm going to do this until the next new moon.

And then you kind of know there's an end in sight because it can be hard to commit to a practice indefinitely. Ultimately, when we realize it works and we get that positive reinforcement that like, oh, this is working. I'm starting to say less negative things to myself. I'm starting to believe things are possible and then that belief is opening up opportunities. I'm able to expand my filter and see things around me instead of closing off from the world. Then we just naturally

continue. But I find that it really starts. It's very helpful to say, okay, I'm going to do this for 30 days. So it doesn't feel like impossible. Go cam committed. Yeah, small steps, small steps. I'm going to ask you, you know, I love my community that listens to the show and I love when they write in it and ask questions and sometimes I'm like, oh, I wish I asked that. And also sometimes I realize, you know, we all have, we all come from different walks of life and, you know,

I have people listening right now that are super into astrology and into, you know, manifesting.

And I have people listening that are really into faith and they've never even read a horoscope,

right? I've had people, I mean, it's all different types of people and I love that. And so one of the things I'm going to dive into and in a little bit with you is really the basics of a needle, a needle chart and a lunar cycle and a astrology and and and can you practice, can, can you grab helpful bits from it if you also practice a different faith and just all of that. So I'm excited to dive in. For anyone who's really curious about this and has questions,

“I think I have a lot of good ones ready for you because I think it's fascinating. And you know,”

if God created the entire universe including lunar cycles, I'm so curious from different perspectives on on what they are. But I want to ask you because I think this is such a powerful theme in your

when we seek power, so many of us do this, when we seek power outside of ourselves and that could look like, oh, if I get this job promotion in this job title or the white picket fence in 3.5 kids or this goal weight or this person liking me or me being included in this friend group. When we seek, when we think we can get power by seeking it outside of ourselves, what happens

and why do we always end up feeling unfulfilled when we do that? We seek power. We seek happiness.

And so we're like, oh, if I get that white picket fence and I weigh 120 pounds and I drive that car, I'm going to feel powerful and would be happy, happy. Right. So it's like there's that combined effect. And I find that and I talk about this in the book because I go through my own journey of losing like everything I had and I had a lot. I had a closet full of Prada and Gucci and all kinds of diamonds and all things and I basically lost most of it or put it in storage for a

very long time. And I don't think it's wrong necessarily to want things and so just stating that. I know a lot of times when we talk about spirituality and talk to spiritual teachers and think of

like Buddhism, it's all like, oh, you can't want anything like desires, the root of all suffering.

“I think it's okay to want things. I think it's okay to want to drive a Porsche or want that house”

with a white picket fence. What we don't want is our happiness or our empowerment to depend on those things. Meaning if we lost them, we would still have both. So it's okay to want things. It's not okay to be attached to them in the way that if you don't have them, you don't feel empowered and you don't feel happy. Because when we place our power outside of ourselves or our happiness, then the world can take it away. You know, things can happen. We can crash that Porsche. We can, you know,

lose the house. So like so much can happen. And if we're not rooted in ourselves and if we're not saying ourselves, okay, you know what? All of that came from me. All of that power is within me. And I have the power to create all of it. So I have the power to create my own internal happiness. I have the power to create abundance in all forms, including time and love and money. I have all that power. And so that if it is all taken away from me, I still have my power.

And nobody can take that away from me. And I have the power to recreate it all again. And I have my happiness so that no matter where I end up, wherever that may be, I'll still be happy and I'll still feel empowered within who I am. So many people get in this cycle of thinking, once I achieve that next thing, then I'll be happy. Right. I achieve the thing on the after that. You were, you know, in pursuit of your doctorate and just had this feeling that that wasn't it. Right.

And can you, can you just subscribe for a feeling listening? Because there's a lot of people right now that are like, I'm in this relationship, but I don't know something's offered. This job or this

pursuit of this or my parents always wanted me to do this, right? I always thought if I did this.

“Yeah. And can you talk about steps to be able to tune in and go? Is this, is this right?”

Is this an alignment for me? And my falsely thinking it will bring me happiness. And how, how do we become fulfilled and happy inside ourselves without any of that stuff? Mm-hmm. Yes. So when I was back in, in school, for neuroscience, I was doing great. Like, by all standards, I was like checking all the boxes and I was like, okay, when I get this, when I get that and I was in that cycle of, oh, when I get this fellowship, I'll be happy.

Oh, when I get this next degree, I'll be happy. Oh, when I'm become a tenured professor, I'll be happy. And so I think that's one of the biggest clues that you're not on the path that's meant for you, that your soul really wants to be here for, because I do believe that we need to pause for a super brief break. And while we do, take a moment to share this episode with every single person that you know who this could inspire, because this conversation can truly be the words and inspiration

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“And so I think that's one of the biggest clues that you're not on the path that's meant for you”

that your soul really wants to be here for because I do believe that we all have a purpose. We all have a path and when we're on it we know it and it feels good. We're not waiting for that next thing to happen. We're like, "Oh, you know what? I'm happy right where I am. I'm still going to go for that next thing because that's part of my path, but if I don't get there, that's also okay." And there's a bit of surrender that happens when we're actually on our path. And so we feel it in every part

of ourselves and our entire energy we're excited to get up for the day. We're motivated. It's not that everything's easy and there's new unicorns flying all around. It's just we know this is where we're meant to be. And we're not like waiting for that next thing to happen. We actually can be

“rooted in ourselves and happy with where we are. And so I think that's really important for people”

who, you know, maybe they're in a relationship that they wake up every day and they're like, "What am I doing?" But they're afraid to leave for whatever reason. They're afraid that that relationship brings them something. They can't bring to themselves. They're afraid that career with all of its glamour and success marks, without it they won't be happy. When really, that might be the thing that is taking them away from their happiness. That's taking them away from who they

make sense to people outside of you. When I left neuroscience, everybody was like, "What are you doing?" They were like, "You just left a fellowship, you just left a stipend." Like everything was paid for, you know, my parents were happy. They were telling all their friends. Like, everybody was like, "What are you, like, what are you doing?" People thought I was crazy. But I knew

that I was not happy. I understood that. And I was young enough. I always say, "Well, I was like

23, so I didn't have kids. I didn't have a mortgage, so I was like young enough to be crazy enough to leave." And say, "You know what? I'm going to give this all up and I'm going to find my path." And I had no idea what my path was going to be at that time. I didn't start spirit daughter until I was 36. And so from 23 to 36, I had no idea what I was doing in life. Like, none. I just, I trusted that I would figure it out. And I trusted that when I found it, it would feel right.

It would feel like I would wake up every day and be like, "Okay, this is what I'm supposed to be

“doing." Do you feel that way right now? I do. I do. And that's what it reasons why I wrote the book.”

Yeah. And there was definitely a moment, so I was like, "What am I doing? Why am I putting this story out there?" And, you know, there are some publishers when we've, you know, originally pitched this book there, like, "What are you just right about kind of astrology?" And I just keep it simple chill, just right about kind of like the sun signs and the lunar cycles. And I was like, "No, no, I want to write this book." And so it just it feels right to me. Yeah. And when you say it

feels right, I want to dive into that because one of the most common questions I get asked is how can I hear my own intuition? And then how can I trust it? So how can we hear our intuition? And then how can we trust it? Yeah. It starts with awareness and practice. And like I talk about

on the book, intuition is feeling. And so the first part of feeling your intuition is opening up

to your emotions. And so we can't just pick and choose which emotions we feel. We have to feel it all. We have to feel the pain. We have to feel the grief. We have to feel the joy. We have to feel the happiness. And so it becomes a practice of really emotional intelligence in a lot of ways. Where we need to sit and sometimes we need to cry and we need to journal. We need to allow ourselves to open up to all of our emotions. Some of the things we may have been avoiding for years,

we need to let them open. And that's the key. That's the key that unlocks the door to your intuition

“because intuition is felt. And I think a lot of people think, oh, it's in my mind. I'm going to”

think my intuition. No, it's felt you feel it in your body. Your body speaks your intuition to you before your mind ever will. Your mind is catching up and trying to make sense of it all. And so we need to feel. And that's really hard for a lot of people. It's to sit in their emotions. And explore them. Be open to them. Journal understand them. And so then when you do that, you start all of a sudden feeling your intuition. Get those aha moments. And for me,

my intuition shows up in random places. Like, when I'm walking the dog, like it's just like, boom, there's an idea or in the shower. Like, boom, there's an idea. And it comes super quick. Your intuition is so efficient. I like to tell this to people because we spend so much time in logic and spreadsheets and to do lists and pros and cons lists and all of that. Your intuition is so efficient. It's just like, here's the answer. And then it's up to you to follow it. And that's

where it takes courage and usually leap of faith. And we usually have no idea, no guarantee, where it's going to lead us or how it's going to end. And we just have to take one step forward in the direction of our intuition, in the direction of that aha moment that comes on very quickly. We need to catch it and take one step towards it. And then I like to tell people to start small and write everything down. Like, keep an intuition journal. I followed my intuition today.

And this is what happened. Maybe your intuition just told you to go to a coffee shop or to eat something or to wear a particular shirt. A lot of times our intuition shows up when we're even just picking out our clothes. So these small things that don't have large consequences. And then you write

“them down. And you write down times when you didn't follow your intuition. And what happened then?”

That's the part that always gets people I find when I'm working with intuition. And some people just

have so much grief over that, where it's like, oh my intuition told me not to do this and I did it anyway. And it was right. And it feels like when you don't follow your intuition, it feels like an act of betrayal to yourself. And so it's important though to write that down and note that and

I never follow it. And this is what happens. It's important to become aware of that. And that

will give you confidence then as you review that journal over time to trust your intuition for big decisions like who to date, who to marry, where to move, what career to go into. One thing you just said, I have never heard anyone say this before. And I'm having this big aha over it right now,

“that you have to allow yourself to feel to then fill your intuition. And so many of us, even those”

of us who consider ourselves empaths or super intuitive have habits of numbing out, scrolling Instagram, me this morning eating nerds, clusters, the candy, while drinking a Starbucks mocha, like double sugar in one moment, like numbing out to things. But if we're doing that, you know, for some of those binging Netflix or whatever it might be, if we are not allowing ourselves to feel whether it's intentionally or not, how are we going to feel our intuition? Exactly. Huge. That's huge. Yeah,

because a guarantee, because we're all human is so many of the people that that really write in and they're like, Jamie, I really am trying to hear my intuition. I'm not hearing and not feeling it, you know, and yet I think now more than ever with technology at our disposal, social media, with everything, it's just so easy to not feel. Also, look what's happening in the world everywhere. So many of us, like, don't want to feel. Right. Yeah. And then we're blocked. If we're not feeling all of it,

“we're not feeling our intuition. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, you need to open up to all of it. You can't”

pick and choose. How do you, someone who is, you know, advanced and opening it to all of it? How do you protect yourself from being open to the stuff? You don't want to take on that, you know, I just had a raid or this happened or that or injustices of the world or whatever is going on, and that it's just so much. Yeah. How do you, or in, you know, it's all around us with the someone watches the news or not. You go to school or the grocery store. You're seeing stuff everywhere.

So how do you open, how do you protect yourself as well? Yeah. That's a great question. It's very layered and I've done different things throughout my life. And I'm very empathic, very open to energy. I think we're all empaths. By the way, I think everybody listening to this right now, we're all

“empathic to a certain degree. And I think that there can be times when we need to protect ourselves,”

and I have certain protection practices that I do like all in case myself in a white light.

You know, I can remember when I was pregnant with my first child's, you know, everybody would

come up to me and they would tell me their birth story. And I don't know why, but like, the tough ones to you. Oh, yeah. Like it was, and I, I mean, I firmly believe that women, you know, can hold space for other women. I love women circles. I run women circles. And I think it can be so healing for women to open up about all kinds of things, including their traumatic birth stories. When I was pregnant, though, I was like, I don't want to take on this

energy. Yeah. You know, I want to go through this process on my own terms with my own expectations. And so I have the habit of any woman who approached me, I would just immediately like, put a white light around myself and visualize it, just visualize it, just visualize it, and then I got really

good and I've always been very hard, very challenged by uncomfortable conversations, but I got

really good at setting boundaries and just saying, you know, thank you for sharing this with me. I'm not in the position to hear those right now. I'd love for you to come back to me, you know, after I have this baby and we can share our birth stories together. And so for me, saying something like that is excruciatingly hard. And so really learning to say and state boundaries in a way that respected myself and the other person preserve the relationship and also with that white light around

me. So there's practices that I think we can do. And you know, some of it might be, I say this while the practice is like the white light, some of it's placebo, like I'm a researcher at heart. And it's like the placebo effect is the greatest miracle in research in my opinion. And then you just like take this pill that is sugar and you can get well. And so maybe the white light is actually really working. Maybe it's just that you have energetically or mentally said to yourself,

Now I will say now that I am older, I do a lot of clearing practices. So I don't prevent the energy from coming in. Instead, I have practices at night that I use that will help

“clear my energy. And so I might say to myself, wow, I'm feeling this thing right now. Is it mine?”

Or is it somebody else's? And a lot of us have the time. It'll be somebody else's. You might not even know. You might just have an encounter with somebody at the grocery store who's in a bad mood. And you pick up that mood from them. And then all of a sudden you're like, wow, why am I so angry? Is this mine? Or is this somebody else's? Wow, this isn't mine. I'm going to let it go. I'm going to put it down. How do you, what are your clearing practices that you do typically?

Well, for my clearing practices, sometimes I'll just think about my third eye and I'll think about

some emotion that's with me. That's not mine. And I'm just kind of like clearing the fog. I'll learn this from a spiritual teacher. And you just clear the fog and just clear it off. I mean, I'll also use like dried herbs, like sage or palasanto. I also like just standing in the shower and just like again visualizing kind of light with that water, like clearing the off, jumping the ocean. I live near the ocean. So if I feel really like I can't get it energy off of me,

I go jump in the ocean. I love doing that. Also great for your crystals for people who have crystals and want to cleanse them, just put them in the ocean. So there's different like clearing practices that I use. And a lot of it just starts with, is this mine or is this somebody

“else's? You talk about your crystals in your book a lot. And for crystals, can you, do you need to”

clear all of them by the way? Can you put them out in the moonlight and they clear? Do they take on energy? How do you know all of this? They take on energy. And sometimes you can actually feel it, like when you hold a crystal, you'll feel it vibrating. Like it'll almost feel like it's shaking. And you're like, oh, I don't know what it means to clear it. And so you can put it in the moonlight, you can't put it in the ocean. There's certain crystals that never need to be cleared,

citrine and kinaite, never need to be cleared. So that's why citrines are going to be amazing

crystal because I've citrine all over my house. How do people know it doesn't need to be cleared? Is it like measured with frequency or how does that work? I think, yeah, it's like measured, again, like I just feel it. And I think people have just worked with these crystals for so long that like citrine, you'll never feel citrine in your hand wanting to jump out of it. And so, you know, that's, these are ancient practices that people have just like observed these stones.

It's just like a strategy that has to observe the stars for yarns. And is it the ones that need to absorb things that they need to be cleared? Or do they can they all absorb things? Or do some just emit? I think they all absorb things. And the citrine

“like just clears it. It goes in and out of it. Yeah, yeah. And that's what you want to be like.”

Like when you're, I always tell this to healers, like healers, they want to take on people's energy.

They just want to take it on and then know how to, should roll off of them, like water off of duck, you know, the energy. Because that's what makes great healers amazing is that they can take on people's energy and they can feel that person's going through and they know exactly what they need to be healed. And so, that's why I love citrine. Citrine does that. Have you always been into, well, let me back up for a minute because I want to ask you

some of the basics, some of the 101 stuff for people who either knew to it or need a refresher to it. So can you share your favorite, your favorite spiritual practices and healing practices and including for anyone listening at home, why astrology, what astrology does, and why you believe in its power and also lunar cycles, natal charts, all of it, all of it, all of it. Okay, how much time do you have? Okay, so my favorite practice is, I would say, it's just meditation.

I, I just, my wish for the world is that everybody meditated. Even for five minutes a day. And there's no right or wrong meditation. There's no better one. You can listen to a guided meditation. You can do transcendental meditation or you just repeat phrases over and over again. You can count the breath. That's a great meditation. So it can be simple. It can be elaborate. My preferred choice is if a pausina, I love a pausina meditation. That's where you do body scans. You just sit and

do the body scan. And I love meditation because it gets us into our feeling. It gets us into the sensations of our body. It gets us into our intuition. So if you're still sitting there going,

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with yourself they will come up over time and so you know and this is has nothing to do with astrology you can be into astrology not under astrology to meditate and you just need even five minutes counts it's like putting pennies in a jar five minutes a day and you're just collecting that and then you get to regulate your nervous system and from there it's like you could figure anything out. I want to say to you in your book one of the things I love when you guys get spirit daughter home

and you and you start to read it when we go through your journey of the things you go through what I love is you'll incorporate in your journey you'll explain to us when this happened and this was like you know what hit the fan and like this and then I'm now box breathing

your journey and also how you're handling things and evolving into the person you are today

“so I just want to share that to you that I love that you sort of bring us into real life situations”

and how you apply these tools okay keep going okay meditation yeah yeah and people have asked me about spirituality like is it a book on astrology I'm like anything more of a book on meditation and how to do it and how to apply it in some really crazy situations that I applied it in and used it to keep myself sane centered and calm and with my emotions I went through a very emotional time and I could have just ejected you know I could have just ran and escaped and done all the

things we do to escape from our emotions instead I sat I breathed with it all and that really helped me ultimately become who I am and so meditation everyone just meditate and then you know towards the end of the book I talk about how I really wanted to start committing to my life again

I always had one foot in one foot out and so there was a time in my life I was couch surfing

I didn't want to sign a lease I was really protecting myself or I thought I was protecting myself and I realized that I was actually abandoning myself I was abandoning who I was and what I really needed by shying away from commitments of any kind and so you know I went from somebody who didn't want to commit to anything to you know building spirit daughter and I did that through harnessing the lunar cycles and so I started working with the new moon so the lunar cycle is the cycle

that we watched the moon go through every month so new to first quarter half moon to full moon to last quarter another half moon back to new and so it's a 29 and a half day cycle it happens

“every month so you can count on it you can set your watch by it I think so much is actually”

having in there built in you know for the lunar cycle and so I started saying okay on the new moon I'm going to set some intentions I'm going to see my future I'm letting myself dream because I was so in the moment and in the moment is great we want to be present with ourselves we want to live in the moment but I was like couldn't think about anything other than getting through that day and so I wanted to give myself permission to dream and have a future and say okay what do

I want my life to be do I want kids do I want that house of the picker fence do I want another partner my

first divorce was so traumatic do I want to get married again and so the new moons gave me that

permission to set intentions into dream and then every new moon I check back in with myself so once a month it was like accountability partner and I would say okay do I still want this dream do I still want to put attention towards the stream because ultimately our attention is what manifest everything and it's like you were talking about everything's trying to distract us and we're scrolling in this and that and we're giving our attention away when we put our attention

towards our dreams we can manifest them and for me the new moon was my guide in that the lunar cycles helped me become accountable to myself and helped me dream and helped me return to myself each month and say okay what what is it that I really want what vision do I want to put my attention towards now and you know if you just needed a marker someone could do the first of the month the last of them and so what is it that special about lunar cycles why should someone listening care about them

well the new moon is when the sun and the moon are together in the sky so they're the exact degree

“in a certain sign and so they'll be that's why we have like the new moon in airies the new moon”

and taris the new moon is always in the sign of the astrological season so most of us know

the astrological season like if it's airy season taris season Gemini season and the babies who are born during that time become that sun sign right so if a baby is born during airy season it's an airy sun sign and that's where a lot of people kind of stop and they're like oh you know that's with the hara scopes for built-off of is the season and the sun sign so the new moon happens on the sun and the moon are together in the sky in that sign right of the season so if it's airy

season we have the airy's new moon and so this creates this dark moon we don't see the moon right it's completely dark and so the ancients when they sort of practicing with the new moon it was completely dark right there was before lights so think about what it will look like outside right with no artificial light on a new moon it would be pitch dark except for the stars and so that was said to be the time to go within to stay in right you wouldn't go out and

because it was so dark we may be just some stargazing but you know so you go within you stay

“inside and then you can hear your intuition more because you don't have distractions because you”

don't have things going on your inside your maybe alone maybe with your family and you can go inward to a deeper level and so on a new moon it's said that we have the capacity to go inward that the veil between the conscious and the unconscious drops and then we can really hear our intuition we're not distracted by light or gatherings or anything else and then we can decide or at least start to have a vision of what it is we really really want from deep within and then

when it comes to astrology you know there's a lot of people that go how can one 12th of the population

have this exact forescope and all be the same and what do you say to someone who who thinks that about the power of astrology and what it can do for you what it can do for you right now listening

“yeah well I will say the horoscopes I don't necessarily read a lot of horoscopes”

they're based on your sunsine and we have a natal chart so our natal chart is a picture of the sky when we were born so not just where the sun is horoscopes are based usually on your sunsine so where the sun is where the moon is the rising sign those are your big three right so most people when they first get an astrology they learn their big three the sign that was rising on the horizon when they were born or the moon was the sun and then we also have a Venus sign a Marsine

a Mercury sign we have lunar nodes so it's really complex it's a very complex picture and you don't have to know every part but you just want to know that it's a complex picture of the energy of the universe when you were born and so when we're born and we have our first breath we take in

that energy of the universe and that becomes part of who we are I say part because I always believe in

free will no matter what so I'm not like a doomsday or astrologer I'm not like oh you're this

“sign you have to be like this kind of thing I believe we have free will I like to look at the chart”

and why I think it is beneficial for anybody as a framework of evolution so you can look at that and you can say like I said in the beginning I'm a Leo Sun Leo Suns are here on this lifetime to embrace and understand vulnerability so it's not that I know everything about Leo's already it's not that I come into this world having mastered the energy or the themes of that sign I can say oh I'm Leo and I have this opportunity to reach my potential through a very vulnerable visible right

Leo's are like one of the most visible of the astrological signs you know situation and so I'm going to go for it I'm going to say all right I'm going to believe in astrology that this is part of my evolution part of my growth and I'm going to embrace this vulnerability and lean on my Leo side so I like to look at our astrology or needle chart as a pathway for evolution for life to do a needle chart is it down to like is your is every person's individual

needle chart down to the day the year the location the time like the exact time a day down to the minute they were born and they would have theirs and so and so you know if if if I was researching this earlier and saw like on average like 260 people are born every minute in the world so would that mean that 260 people have that energy of that exact minute that they're taking on and then they combine that with genetics plus free will and it sort of becomes who they are

for two certain degree is they're going to be in a different location and so dependent on which hemisphere in your location that's going to change your rising sign which your rising sign starts to entire chart so they might all have the same sun sign moon sign vina sign all the planet same lunar nodes but they might exist in different houses and so your chart of your recina chart looks like a pie and there's 12 slices of the pie and those are your houses those

are areas of your life so your chart has signs it has planets or placements and it has houses and so all those 260 people would have the same planets that in the same signs they might be in different houses depending on their location so no two people are ever the same well if they're born in the same location they would be at the same minute they'd have to be like same hospital

time zone yeah so like everybody board in this moment in california right now what have the same chart

same chart and can people learn more about neotrarchs at spirit dotter dot com all that yeah absolutely yeah it's fascinating with you and your own journey I've had people on the show all different beliefs all different faiths no faith like all different political beliefs vote different love different

“I love it all right absolutely I really believe this chill I feel like I feel like if we don't”

have you know open conversations with people who vote different than us and believe different even if we think they are nuts like I a family I'm like what in the world how can you possibly vote but I just you know but I feel like if we don't have conversations people have all different beliefs like how can we ever help heal humanity through love like so I just I love so I'm fascinated also to learn in your journey what you share you go so deep in the book um I said to Jill

right when we were walking here I said I'm gonna let you decide how much you share because your book I mean you go I was shocked how I love it I love it because you know even for whether someone's in your community right now is followed your work for a long time loves you already or they're new to meeting you today they're going to get to know you you're going to get to know you at a whole other level but in your journey I'm curious you know because obviously millions of

people right now look to you for inspiration for for on their own journey toward you know spirituality or enlightenment or just happiness and joy and freedom and power and and expansiveness and all of those things in your own journey what role right now if any does faith or belief in God play like how do you define God that's a good question so I talk about the book that I did grow

“Catholic and I had a lot of questions about the church and God and I think I even say in one line like”

a lot of people find answers and even comfort and religion I found nothing but questions that went unanswered and so I would not say that I am Catholic and I told my mother when I was 12 that I was not Catholic and she needed to get me out of Catholic school and she she listened now I will say my grandmother was very very religious and my entire life and she really taught me a lot of ways

and she would always say like you know you may not know why things are happening and you just need to

trust and you you know everything has a meaning everything has a higher purpose and you just have to trust that and that came from her faith and for me I still believe those those pieces and I it's not that I don't believe in God I just think about it differently I think about God

“more as energy and the universe and the universe that we're all held within and it's not somebody”

or something that I'm necessarily praying to it's just an energy that holds everything and I even define and talk about the cosmic field which is the energetic matrix and spirituality and to me that feels more like a God like figure than traditional God by religion with the cosmic records and all of that with the you talk about in your book like keeping records of everyone's soul and things like this do you believe that is real and can you explain what that is I do

think I do believe that is real the cosmic field is a matrix of energy that holds everything right so we we know we're energetic beings I mean when we really zoom out and think about it we're like we're energy sitting here on this planet that's energy that's spinning around the sun that's energy that's flying through a solar system that's made of other planets and it's all energy at the and this isn't like energy from like a woo woo or even a spiritual I mean it's energy from physics

like this is for all energy at the core of of who we are of our actual physical matters energy and so you know when we think about energy and energy connecting and creates a field to create an energetic field and you can ask an electrician this and they'll define it for you

you know electricians are always working with energetic fields and so again it's like kind of taking

the spirituality almost out of it and bringing it down to like matter and particles right so anything that is energetic is going to create an energetic field and then when you have all of these beings creating an energetic field in this universe with all these planets it's all connected and so creates this web of energy and so all the fields are connected at some point and that in essence

that's where the records come in because energy cannot be destroyed it's just changes form

and so we're still working with the energy that originally you know created came from the big bang and then it all it just evolved into different forms and different forms and different forms but that energy and quantum physics is you know proving this stays connected throughout time

“and space forever and so that's what creates the a koshik field and the koshik records.”

Do you think our soul goes back into energy and then what do you think happens from there? I do. I do think that we're energetic beings and our soul goes back when you take another form

and so in a lot of ways I do believe in traditional reincarnation in that in an energetic sense

and that we would be human form again or it could be any other form in the form whatever our soul needs like I believe we our soul is really the essence is the energy that is part of our body those on an evolution this lifetime and so everything that we attract we bring in our astrology why we chose to be born in a certain time and date is is all about our energy evolving and what it needs and wants for its energetic evolution every mistake every challenge everything

and who are what do you think created all of that energy? I wish I knew. Yeah yeah so I mean that's that's the big question right that's the question that religions been trying answer forever yeah yeah with you know it's interesting with when it comes to our own knowing or our own intuition I was curious about I was thinking about this reading your book as well you know if let's say let's say you have a knowing that about the koshik field

and you have a knowing that feels like that's true and let's say I have this knowing that God is real in a traditional Christian sense let's say does that mean one of our knowing's is wrong you know we both have that knowing no same word yeah I don't think it's wrong

“I think that we all have different perspectives and that's how I look at everything so even”

when we look at all the different religions even when we look at all the different spiritual modalities so when we look at everything from acupuncture to ayurvedic medicine these lenses that we're looking at humans through every religion it's all just a different lens right so it's like we're all we're all correct like I think everything there's a green of truth in everything and it's just how we're all trying to explain and understand human consciousness

why we're here what we're doing we're all trying to answer this these same existential questions yes through a different lens and I don't think anything is wrong I don't think anything's 100% right either when people do you feel that more and more people are drawn or come to you because they're looking for those kind of answers and like they're looking for a fulfillment

“or they're looking for a more evolved sense of meaning yeah I think they are I mean I think”

people find astrology they find spirituality because they are looking for meaning in their lives they are looking for you know answers to these existential questions that I started asking when I was 12 years old you know we all want to know like why are we here what are we doing one of my supposed to be doing with my life and I think a lot of people look to astrology for those answers because they can give them a framework it can give them some direction maybe they feel lost and they

can say oh I'm an Erie's son Erie's are bold and courageous they like to initiate things I'm a starter perhaps I should find a career where I could use those things it gives them a jumping off point in a lot of ways to experiment and try to figure out who they are right now we are in you know 2026 we are in the newer part of the new year and so many people are excited about the year of the firehorse yeah and can you share for someone listening like what does it mean you've got it

on your on your your Instagram too about different layers of it and different parts of it what do you say what what should we know about the year of the firehorse and what this means press the year

of the fire everybody is so excited about the year of the fire so I've never seen people more excited

for how people are going to like that one is it really the fire goat okay so yeah the firehorse you know it's a it's a year of new beginnings this year it's a universal one year and we're in Erie's season so this is why I chose March 24th to launch the book in Erie's season in a universal one year in the year the firehorse and so the firehorse just gives us that momentum but you know everybody's been talking about like charging forward and going for it we just left the year of the snake

which is all about introspection and shedding and letting go of things and the firehorse is like okay

“now you're ready and so I think that really resonated with a lot of people where they felt like last”

year which was a nine year as well which nine is all about completion in in numerology and so I think they really felt like they completed a cycle last year they shed something they shed a layer and this is the year for rebirth and so that firehorse is just like okay let's move forward let's move forward though with an open heart and that was one of the things I was really sharing on my

Instagram is like horses are amazing beings right they they just they have this openness like I don't

know if you've done any or heard of like equine therapy where you know they people have these amazing breakthroughs you know just with these horses merging energy with these horses it said that their heart has a as a field and energetic field five times larger than humans and so they're just amazing being so I think that's really important to remember is yes church forward yes go after your dreams yes use that momentum that fire to push you forward and do it with an open heart

that's so beautiful you know many years ago when I was working in television news as anchor and reporter I was out doing a story from multiple days at this it was a horse rescue ranch and they paired rescued horses that had gone through abuse that were rescued and they paired them with kids

that had gone through abuse a lot of kids that wouldn't speak to adults about anything and I'll never

forget Jill like literally I was maybe 100 yards away and I was filming the you know where they would introduce the kids to horses and they would kind of do their own thing and they just would let them

“be and they'd pair one kid with a horse and I'll never forget like I just remember just sobbing like”

just sobbing watching there was a girl who had gone through horrific things and she was a young teen and she'd never spoken to an adult about it she was just telling everything to a horse and then she would just lay on the horse and the horse would lay down in the field and she'd like put her head on the on the horse and they would just like and I just remember watching it and for me it was

one of the first times in my life I felt like I ever felt God's presence wow I was just like wow

well I just remember just like sobbing yes to your point horses are magnificent yes magnificent yes and that's the part of everybody to really remember this year is that because so many people are just like charge forward go go go it's like no remember that softness that that feminine side I feel like the masculine side is getting really thrown about especially on Instagram which is that like go go go and there's a softness to these horses and an openness and just this amazingness to them well you know

when we talk about and you talk about layers of awakening can you talk about the layers yeah of awakening yes so it all started so many texts to me right before I started writing a book and they're like can you explain spiritual awakening to me and I was like well that's a book

“and so I think a lot of people think of spiritual awakening as this like a moment of clarity”

where you're just all of a sudden you're enlightened you know who you are you know what to do you're like ah the clouds part you know everybody sings and really what I found in my journey was that it was layers of awakening and a lot of it was not fun not perfect not angelic in any way it was you know awakening to pain awakening to where I needed to forgive others where I needed to forgive myself awakening to patterns that I held situations and I was choosing over and over again

to reinforce old patterns old limiting beliefs right we choose our limiting beliefs until we become aware of them and so you know awakening is steps and it's not just about this like perfect moment that happens because you read an inspirational quote I love it when people read my quotes and

more than just that yeah I think that's really important to call out one of the one of the layers you

“talk about in your book that I think a lot of people are going to relate to is when you say that we”

unconsciously recreate the emotional patterns we grew up with even when they're hurting us can you share a little bit about that because I did that I dated that many times but yeah I think we

all dated that I married that first marriage I always had to say that because my second marriage is

wonderful totally different but yeah so I grew up in a in a household that you know the emotional temperature was anxiety you know it's just there and so I in a lot of ways was addicted to anxiety and for you so it was normal it was comfortable yeah and so our brains are trained to choose the familiar it's how we evolved the familiar equals safe to our brains so our brains aren't like oh let's have you build this amazing career and like become your most enlightened self our brains are like

let's just keep you safe let's just get you the next day like in the most primal point and so we will choose the known over the unknown until we recognize the pattern and become aware of it and awaken to it and break that pattern because the comfort our comfort zones feel safe even even if they're not safe like I was in a relationship that was definitely not safe but I kept choosing it over and over again because it felt normal it felt like a comfort zone it felt like oh this

relationship is giving me anxiety anxiety is normal to me this is my baseline this is what feels

comfortable and so I was choosing it over and over again and I think that's really really powerful

to understand that we choose these patterns we choose these patterns because they're comfort not because we want to punish ourselves or because we're terrible people I would choose them because our brains are wired to choose the familiar and we don't even realize we're doing it right like so many times we're like why do I keep having a friend that just doesn't show up for me the way I show up for them why can't I make good friends as an adult or why do I keep dating people

that just mistreat me or and we we think it's like bad luck or something like that but it's like when you really start to understand this and you do such a good job talking about so many of

“these things in spirit daughter it's like oh wait that's what's comfortable to me and I'm probably”

subconsciously thinking that's what I'm worthy of that's what I'm comfortable around or whatever it might be so you say we're biologically set up to forget our own amaziness so can you explain that and also you know for the person listening right now who's like huh have I even thought about my own amaziness do I even think I have amaziness at all can you can you share about this this is so

inspiring yeah well there's so many parts of us and our biology that are absolutely amazing like

the fact that we're just breathing right now without thinking about it is amazing like yeah there's so many little things the fact that we have this brain that can set up these patterns we can change we can become conscious of it we can have discussions about so many different things like who else can what other species can sit here and have a discussion about consciousness and God and religion like that alone is amazing and then we have this amazing brain that is set up to filter out so much

and so I think that's the piece that a lot of people don't understand is there's so much happening around us there's so much stimuli happening there's lights there's there's a whole energy happening and this isn't like energy we were spiritual you know there's just tons tons happening our brain has evolved to filter most of it out most of the information around you you filter out

“because it literally would like make your brain explode if you took it all in and so that's what”

I meant by we're biologically set up to filter out our amaziness because we're biologically set up to focus on threats to focus on survival to say okay we're going to scan a room for threats when we could scan a room for opportunities and so when we set intentions we're programming our brain our brain has this amazing filter on it called the particular activating system or RAS and so this filter you know we can program it and so it's default mode is set to filter in things for survival

so it's going to look for threats it's kind of like a bouncer at a club or it's like oh you look

its default mode but we can actually change it and that's part of what makes us so amazing is we

can say hey filter why don't you expand we're safe I'm going to use meditation to regulate my nervous system everything's safe you can expand stop scanning for threats scan for opportunities for this vision I want to create I have this vision of my life I want to manifest it I'm going to sit and rehearse it in my mind so it feels familiar when it happens because your brain won't know the difference between what you envision and reality and so when we visualize things over and

over again when they start to manifest and happen in reality our brain goes oh that's safe I know that that is now familiar and then we start that RAS expands and we can start scanning the environment for opportunities to actually manifest that vision and reality that is so powerful what you just said I want to make sure you guys don't miss what Jill just said because the way we were talking about how oh we're familiar with someone treating us horrible which is why we keep dating the same

“dude over and over whatever it is the same way because that's familiar that's what's comfortable”

so powerful what you just said you said the things you want the things you when you visualize them over and over you imagine them you like that starts to also become familiar or comfortable in your brain which then makes sense why people say visualization helps with manifestation yeah things I remember seeing in the KVC parking lot after being told no for years and literally being like on the verge of bankruptcy through so long trying to keep our company alive and then

getting one big shot on KVC and I sat in that parking lot the entire week beforehand I imagine the soul that sign coming up across the screen I imagine all these things like the way I imagined like an Olympic athlete when like you know envision landing a triple axle or whatever it is

and and it's interesting that I've never thought of it this way though till you just said that

that it becomes then familiar to us which is part of the power of visualization I've never thought about that way before I've always believed it worked but it's starting to make so much more sense the way you explained it which is which is beautiful so okay spirit daughter is out now this much anticipated book millions of people turned to Jill Winterstein spirit daughter for inspiration for their own journey of spiritual awakening and enlightenment and joy

and their best life and so just to ask you for the person at home who's like I think I might pick that book up what what would you tell them they should get ready for and can expect when they get spirit daughter home I think that they should expect to get a page turner of a self-help book

“because that's how it's been told to me the memoir part is quite a page turner”

where you want to know what happens and it is the messy chaotic traumatic in a lot of ways to me part of my journey that I feel is very inspirational and I want people to read this book and say oh well I got to the end and now I'm starting to figure out who I am and if Jill went through all of that and became who she is I could also make my dream a reality I could manifest my dream and so I wanted to really empower people like we chose that title you know own your power change

your life like that's that's what I want I want people to read this book and be inspired and empowered to change their lives in any direction they choose well we are going to link to the book on our site we're also going to link to Jill Winterstein to spirit.com spirit.com which has so many resources including all of the the tools that we've already talked about and a lot more including your app yeah of course is all the things that you

offer the world thank you so much for sharing a little sneak peek of your book with us but also of your heart and your story and I'm excited for you congratulations on spirit daughter thank you thank

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