Stop Worrying and Start Living! Strategies to Move Past Worry & Self-Sabotage, and Reclaim Your Freedom & Happiness with Victoria Jackson (RR)

Do you wish that you could stop or slow that spiral of negative thoughts and rise above room and nation? We all worry now what?

In today's episode my amazing friend Victoria Jackson is here to give you powerful answers

including stories, lessons and a road map to awakening, courage and connection in your life. This is an episode you're going to want to share with everyone you know today.

“Do you ever feel like worry and anxiety cost you your happiness and freedom?”

Do you wish that you could stop or slow that spiral of negative thoughts and rise above room and nation? We all worry now what? My guest today is here to give you powerful answers including stories, lessons and a road map to awakening, courage and connection in your life.

Today it's time to start rising above worry for good. Victoria Jackson is a legend and icon, a trailblazer in the beauty world. She's also a medical pioneer who's been honored by the Pope. In 2017 Victoria was inducted by Gloria Steinem into the National Women's Hall of Fame, Victoria Jackson, welcome to the Jamie Kern Lima Show.

worry I always say is the seed that gets watered that turns into the stress, the anxiety, the panic.

I mean I've had a life you know well lived and through all of the different milestones, turning points you know just moments in my life, anxiety, stress, panic is always sort of sad right on my shoulder, it is you know something that almost every one of us deals with

“and so I think you so courageously talking about it is so powerful.”

People who touch with all that you've done, you still deal with stress and panic disorder and I go yeah I do, I would picture sitting across from Oprah and I would be telling her my story and then one day I get the call to go to Chicago where at the time I wasn't flying and I was like I can't go I can't get there I'm I'm too afraid. There's so much that people know you for and this other part of you has coexisted and

I think there's so many people that are listening and watching this that maybe feel alone in worrying or in anxiety how do you navigate worry and panic and anxiety and also not let it rob you of your freedom and not let it rob you of your joy and not let it rob you of like the life that you want to lead.

If it's not happening now it's not happening that's really good yeah that's really powerful.

Many years just really not forgiving myself for not being able to do something so you have to look at and give yourself some grace sometimes that even with all these books that we read and these tips and the things we listen to sometimes you're just going to fall short of the mark for yourself and for some reason you're not going to do it. There's people listening right now too that think like oh I've blown it my time my

“ship is sailed I missed that opportunity it was like oh no no you're whole life is a”

exactly yeah and you just have to give yourself some space and some grace to navigate it but not give up. How have you navigated all of that while also then deciding I'm going to you know become a makeup artist and I'm going to start building this career you became one of the most successful women of all time pioneer and television sold a billion dollars in products on television you've done so much while also having this piece of you Victoria Jackson you

are such a badass I just think is so powerful about when you got that call it's a call no parent ever you know wants to get you say in place of a diploma I had what mattered most and mothers unstoppable determination through the success of my company and my husband's we spent eighty million dollars of our own money we don't have any deals kickbacks with pharmaceutical companies nothing we've spent eighty million dollars it's just out there in the universe to help

headlines what has been now for therapies that are out in the market that serve the world worldwide when you do something you do something yep you had a life altering instant happen I did and it was life altering it but I knew during that out of body kind of time for me

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do you ever feel like worry and anxiety cost you your happiness and freedom do you wish that you could stop or slow that spiral of negative thoughts and rise above rumination we all worry

now what my guest today is here to give you powerful answers including stories lesson and a

road map to awakening courage and connection in your life today it's time to start rising above worry for good Victoria Jackson is a legend an icon a trailblazer in the beauty world where her trademark no makeup makeup revolutionized the beauty industry and catapulted her to one of the greatest American success stories of our time she's also a medical pioneer who's been honored by the pope for her visionary approach and impact in advancing an understanding and funding for

NMO and autoimmune related diseases in 2017 Victoria was inducted by Gloria Steinem into the

National Women's Hall of Fame she has and continues to do incredible things in her life yet

like so many of us she also has more than enough reasons for worry anxiety and crippling fear to show up daily from surviving sexual assault to getting a phone call no parent ever wants to receive Victoria has spent her life on a true warrior walk of learning to slow anxiety spiral and not let worry steal her freedom she's written four amazing books her brand new book is out officially now and it's called we all worry now what she's also my dear friend Victoria Jackson

welcome to the Jamie Care and leave a show thank you come that was beautiful thank you so much

me I'm really grateful to be here and you know just filled with a life of gratitude a lot been going on and it's it's wonderful to be able to just be able to to talk about it and share with you so thank you well congratulations on your new book and so many other things by the way I was saying that we have the longest intro maybe they've ever written and I could have written it longer godmother's book shop opening so many things that you are doing out in the world you know

with we all worry now what the title of your brand new book that is so beautiful and just connect it's gonna connect to so many people and help so many people and I'm just really excited about it because so many of us we lose so much of our life to worry to anxiety to rumination of thoughts and I'm excited to dive into to some of the the lessons and stories in the book but first just wanted to ask you you know in your own journey in your own journey what has led you to writing

such a powerful book you know it's as I say I mean I've had a life you know well lived and through all of the different milestones turning points you know just moments in my life anxiety

stress panic as always sort of sat right on my shoulder and so I've always navigated people

crush with all that you've done you still deal with you know stress and panic disorder and I go yeah I do and so this book was really everything for me is about if I've done all this you can too you can whatever it is that you want to do and here's how so it was important to me especially in a time where we live in a world that's just so riddled with you know instability like stress worry and worry I always say is the seed that gets watered that turns into the stress the anxiety

the panic and I just thought you know this is how I've had a lot of things that have gone on in my life that I really created a lot of worry I have my black belt in worry but I also have my black belt in being a warrior and I wanted to just share some of the tips that you have helped me get through and knowing that it's not like oh I figured it all out here's all the answers now I got to work my program all the time as I'm still living my life and dealing with the challenges as we all have

them has this been part of your life since childhood or when did you really start to be aware of

worry and you've been through a lot I've been through a lot I always say I was born premature

“so I was born three months early and I always say I think it was to get a little head start on worry”

because I you know lived in the hospital for three months before I could even come home and when I did finally come home I had a mom that was a little bit overwhelmed and sort of said but I never really got to bond with you and you know I had a lot of medical issues so I think worry seemed to start kind of really early on and I was always trying to whether I was get approval or deal with whatever medical you know melody I was dealing with at the time

it was a challenge it was a challenge so I think it's been something that I was aware of that anxiety and my view of the world was probably going to be a little bit more challenging what were some of the things that sort of happened along your journey that maybe

“you mentioned your mom and not bonding but were some of the things because I think a lot of people”

are in the infancy of their own journey I've realizing oh wow here's here's what worry

anxiety looks like in my life and maybe here's where it's stemmed from and then just kind of starting on that that journey of wanting to sort of change their relationship if they can with worry and anxiety and panic and all that I think that one of the most beautiful parts of this moment in time is thankfully people are talking about it and they're sharing it and they're not hiding as much and thinking that they're alone in it it is you know something

that almost every one of us deals with and so I think you so courageously talking about it is so powerful but has it been something that has built and gotten like to a point in your life

“or then you're like oh I have to do something about this sorry. Well I think people are talking”

about it now more so because they're feeling it you know people have been feeling worry for so long and you know it's just like with mental illness mental health you know like people are now talking

about it you know it's hard to when you're living it you don't really know especially with anxiety

it can be free floating you know people could go as they always would go well what do you

afraid of or everything's going great right now or why are you stressed out and we can't always put you know a face to it a name to it a rationale to it it's just something that you know

“we walk with and I think for me it was early on that mine manifested in feeling like somebody was”

always going to get me that sort of unsettling feeling never feeling quite peaceful you know restful there was always just something that was under the surface that was a little bit more and turmoil and I think it more manifested for me and personal safety not feeling safe or that something was coming down the road for me and that was a big part of of worry for me and a lot of that was being in a you know a family dynamic where the mom mom and dad were young they probably

were two people not meant to be with each other and as a kid you're you're picking up all that energy so that instability feeds into that worry which then feeds into that stress anxiety and a lot of panic disorder how how old are you and it started you know I just remember being by like I was five six years old and I remember my mom at the time going like you don't calm down they're going to come in you know she and I feel bad because I don't want to just my mom

“is a great woman and I think she was just really at Whitsend at time but it was more her way of”

saying is like if you don't calm down they're gonna put you in the hospital and you're like oh my gosh I'm gonna put me in the hospital no no no no I've got to calm down and you sort of take all that inward and so you're not really sure how to navigate it and and what to do with that so I think that was a lot of it is so much of it becomes this internal struggle that you don't really know where to turn to especially when you're young so it can manifest in acting out not staying in

school which for me you know I didn't stay in school I was always finding my way out of like

I know in those early parent conferences I was like she doesn't stay in the reading circle she wanders away you know I was so it's just that always little bit of that that stress trying to

“figure it out for yourself and then you had you need to talk about personal safety you had”

a life altering instant happen I did and it was life altering and you know it's I don't know whether it's a premonition or a sense of that foreboding of being at home in our apartment and it wasn't a house it was our apartment and coming home one night and going in my room and you know it's that really classic like horror scene where you're in your bedroom late at night and you're you know watching TV and you look up in the mirror and there's somebody standing

behind you and you're like what you know with a ski mask and a look like an item with a dish rag hanging over it and I thought it was my brother because my family did know that I was

so vulnerable and always afraid of someone and come get me that I thought oh it was my brother playing

a joke and I turn around like mark and he's like don't move and when you hear a voice that you know is clearly not your brother and one that's saying don't move you sort of know wow this is it and because at that point I thought well I'm the last victim my bedroom was off the back of the house and so I figured everybody else was gone and and I was it and that was that was a very you know you sort of go wow I'm 17 I mean my last year of high school is this really it like you know

am I going out like this and I don't really want to go into all the details of all the bad things that happened to me and my body but clearly enough to know that I learned about going out of body when something really bad is happening to you that sense of disassociating and being also the fact that I kept thinking about was what's happened to my family are they all gone and so there were so many things that were happening and he was known as the pillowcase rapist it was

notorious in California and at the time when I was kept in this really small space hence I still am claustrophobic but I was kept in this small space and when I saw him reach over to grab a pillowcase I thought well maybe he's going to be you know putting jewelry and things nothing I had anything but whatever I have in this pillowcase but when I realized very quickly that he was about to put it

have like you're so scared it's something gonna actually come out and I counted to three and I knew

“I was just gonna scream at the top of my lungs and I did he throws off his his scheme mask I can't”

really identify I'm drops it on the floor my bedroom door would get stuck he was pulling it to try to get out I'm completely in shock and I just ran as fast as I could up the stairs you know I was bleeding to see you know if my parents were still there and what was happening in my house you know I thought I was gonna see a very ugly scene in the house so that was life changing absolutely but I knew during that out of body kind of time for me that I was here for a reason that my life was here for a reason

that this was not going to be how I died but it was my changing I knew yeah thank you for sharing that

people who know of you know of you as for so many things but on the outside we don't always

“know what someone's going through on the inside right which I think it's so powerful that you”

wrote a book being so candid and vulnerable that shares real lessons on how do you navigate worry and panic and anxiety and also not let it rob you of your freedom and not let it rob you of your joy and not let it rob you of like the life that you want to lead and the impact you want to have and people that know you know many know you of course for being a pioneer and icon oh my goodness 40 years ago no makeup makeup I remember someone someone who started a beauty company

and has been in that industry I let me just first of all let me just brag on my friend for a minute

I remember I can't even count the number of times where I've seen so many brands and be inspired by what you've created or even tried to do what you've created all the things you've been such a pioneer in building women's confidence and helping people feel good about themselves you know trademark you know makeup makeup before anyone else used it there's a lot of other people millions of people that know you for your medical you're a pioneer in the medical space and the research

that you've done in the funding and the drugs that have been approved and which I'll talk about I'll ask you about that in a minute women's hall of fame there's there's so much that people know

“you for and this other part of you has co-existed and I want to call that out because I think there's”

so many people that are listening and watching this that maybe feel alone in worrying or in anxiety and so can you sort of take us through you know having gone through so much and how have you navigated all of that while also then deciding I'm going to you know become a makeup artist and I'm going to start building this career you became one of the most successful women of all time pioneer in television sold a billion dollars in products on television and for Victoria Jackson Cosmetics

you've done so much while also having this piece of you and so can you kind of share with us how well I know it sounds crazy to think how does that like co-exist how do you have that level of stress and anxiety and still manage to go out and do it and it's really about you know taking leaps of faith doing it you know even when you're uncomfortable the running theme that I've

had in my life has always been about oh if I can do this you can do it and here's how so even in my

early career as a makeup artist you know the first book um this is my fifth book the first book I wrote was called redefining beauty it was really the how-to of you know of makeup and the second one was the why so everything for me has been really the the teaching experience that even though like I couldn't do makeup in the beginning I was horrible makeup artist but I practiced till I could get better and then you know and then I realized why does it matter so makeup your life was really

why does why does makeup matter what's the the whole reasoning that I came up with the power of mascara and going to the jails for 20 years and seeing how it really changed people's feelings than thinking um about themselves even though while I'm in the jails for example as I've told

leave the door open like the cell door Victoria like you know I'm still going there facing my

“fears of going into the prisons for 20 years but knowing that I was doing something that was”

making a difference for so many women so they've always coexisted for me so it's just I have to

I just push through and that's so much about in this book is about that it's taking the next step you know it's facing that and is part of it making the the the why behind it bigger than yourself to push through the fear yeah and that's you know I mean that's easy to say yeah and you know sometimes you're going to feel that and sometimes it's just like I it doesn't matter that the why might be bigger I'm just stuck so I'm just trying to get you to think about you know and

one of my books are a perseverance is where the gods dwell it's like persevering like constantly pushing yourself taking whatever small steps you know putting yourself in the room my kids always love when I go if you're not in the room you're not in the room you're like put this that even mean mom

“like you're not it's like you have to you have to show up um I've always put myself in the room”

and then there were times where I had opportunities and I couldn't get in the room I have stories about you know I I know you did a wonderful job and incredible job interviewing Oprah and she was here and there were times where I had an opportunity to be on Oprah show and I couldn't get in the room you know my anxiety was too high and I couldn't get in the room well you share that story because I know that that was sort of like the stream of yours and it actually happened so you

and I both had this in common we've sabotaged it for different reasons but can you share this because I just there's people listening right now too that think like oh I've blown it my time my ship is sailed I missed that opportunity but it's like oh no no you're whole life is ahead of you exactly yeah and I mean I just remember when everyone was telling me you know especially in the world of building a cosmetic company oh you're not gonna be able to compete with the big major companies

and I was like oh no no I'm gonna be able to do it in some day I'm gonna actually I would pictures sitting you know across from Oprah and I would be telling her my story so I was visualizing that in my head and I'm gonna be telling Oprah and she's gonna be interviewing me and I'm gonna be successful

so I always was working and manifested and then one day I get the call to go to Chicago where

at the time I wasn't flying and I was gonna go there and be the lead like woman who had made it against the odds my infomercial and I was like I can't go I can't get there I'm I'm too afraid and I was afraid of flying I was afraid of flying I I just was I was just stuck and I made up some horrible lie that there was like a sickness or something was so so bad and I just beat myself up for so long for some like years like well that could have been a turning point and you

blew that and you know okay I didn't get there and how great later in life I meet Oprah under a different circumstances and have a a really nice friendship and a conversation and a lunch and

you just never know how it's all gonna work out you know you never know and I spent many years

“just really not forgiving myself for not being able to do something so you have to look at”

and give yourself some grace sometimes that even with all these books that we read and these tips and the things we listen to sometimes you're just gonna fall short of the mark for yourself and for some reason you're not gonna do it but you know what it's all gonna come back around and somehow maybe that wasn't meant to be but something else was you just the one thing I know having gone now as I say from mascara to medicine and back you just don't know what life's

gonna bring up and you just have to give yourself some space and some grace to navigate it but not give up keep putting yourself in that room and keep going for it there's so much more coming up in this episode you are not gonna want to miss it but first I wanted to share this with you in life you don't sort the level of your hopes and dreams you stay stuck at the level of your self-worth when you build yourself worth you change your entire life and that's exactly why I wrote my

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health challenges challenges and finance to get a career challenge relationship challenges friendship challenges so many of us if we're human we have reasons to worry every day and you know for you in in this journey just to kind of put it to zoom out for a minute for everyone listening to you especially because of how much you continue to serve and impact and create and offer in the world do you also feel like the the journey of your relationship with

we're with with worry and anxiety and navigating it and managing it and all that deep like

it's gonna it's a lifelong journey I feel like it'll always be a lifelong journey but it's kind of

now has different perspective so for example you know being in the world of when my daughter was diagnosed you know I have three children and you know all of a sudden one day you know she has an eyeball headache and then the next thing I know after going to see some doctors thinking it's gonna be something that's simple I find out that she has a rare condition they basically tell me that she has an amo neuro myelitis optica that is sometimes misdiagnosed and confused

a lot with MS and that she has four years to live and I'm like what okay well life just changed closing the book on mascara and makeup and opening the book on medicine I did not graduate high school due to my pillowcase rapist situation I didn't go to college I've been making lip glass and makeup so now I'm gonna cure an autoimmune disease okay so I was like yeah but I'm going

“to and I am going to learn everything there is about it and I think that's set the stage for me”

of putting worry on a whole different level so when you have that kind of worry we are dealing with life and death and you're working to find a cure at what I call this speed of life I'm not as worried in the same way about other things now so I have a different perspective I still have worry but I'm not worrying to the same degree because I'm like oh nobody's dying here nobody's going blind yeah I got this this is good so I have a different kind of life view of it because

I've had a very different life experience you know there's a famous saying success leaves clues and and I just want to call this out Ali was 14 when you got that call I want to read a quote

from you that I just think is so powerful about when you got that call which a call no parent ever

you know wants to get you say in place of a diploma I had what mattered most a mother's unstoppable

and especially when we're when our nature is to worry or to then have our anxiety go through the roof for any of those things what part of you if you can just get granular for a minute Victoria Jackson what part of you that we all want to cultivate more of in ourselves by the way is that part where you're like oh okay the doctors just told me this but I don't accept that and whether I succeed in failure in this I'm going to do whatever I can to have a different outcome and to go for it

and to figure something out I know nothing about yeah well I mean when it's your child I mean

“that at least for me it was just in a you know I believe the power of love with the power of love”

and intention anything's possible so I knew there was no effin way I was going to lose my daughter just wasn't going to happen so I just knew that it was I didn't have the answer I didn't know what it was going to be but I knew it was going to be in every you know ounce of my being and then maybe a hawk maybe this is why I'm here was to save my daughter and save all the people that have this and shine a light on autoimmune disease and like the end and end is revealing

itself as I started the work because all of a sudden I went from you know six potential doctors in a room to hundreds of researchers scientists 45 countries a biobank a blood biobank repository a data collection center of all these things that are now affecting so many other autoimmune diseases so you just don't know you are such a badass you know that I know you know that

“anyone listening who's first time meeting Victor Jackson you are such a badass I think I'm just”

determined you know I've never seen myself as necessarily a badass but just as determined like

okay I'm going to figure this out and if I can't figure this out I'm going to ask you Jamie currently to help me figure it out I'm going to ask the doctor at Stanford I'm going to learn molecular medicine I'm going to just question everything bring people together I build bridges and when you build bridges you don't you don't know what's going to be on the other side you don't know the people that you're connecting that you're building something that is so much even bigger

then you know or you think or is about you at the time so I just put it out there I you know people I wrote a book called the Power of Rare a blueprint for a medical revolution I didn't know when I was starting this that somehow if somebody was going to tell me I'd be writing a sort of like the blueprint for how to actually get drugs made I would have laughed I've been like yeah all right but I realized as I was going through it and things were happening and I was getting drugs made and I'm

working with Genentech and this pharmaceutical on that and I'm seeing wait fire my yeah fire my firma but farmers working with all these patients they're working with these doctors I need to shine a light on how this process works it was kind of amazing things that I had no idea so I

always just want to share because somebody else another mom dad foundation that's going through

“what I'm going through it's going to be able to benefit from that that's what we need to do in the”

world we have to get beyond I was so worried and I still worry about Ali I love my daughter you know I'm I'm working on what I just call now cure shot working for finding a cure for her she's doing great but I'm still a warrior always be a little nervous smelly but it's I'm also going to be doing the work you went from mascara to medicine from foundation to creating a foundation another foundation from you know the science of beauty to the beauty of science and and you really

you didn't just try I mean can you tell you you've been honored by the Pope for amazing amazing

and can you talk about just to give everyone perspective just the things you've accomplished in the short amount of time with where I got the Jackson Foundation is and all the things that you've done in that space because it's who you are it's how you do things you like pioneer in the beauty space know nothing about the medical field and I just want to hear what you've done because then we're going to transition into your wisdom and your stories and your lessons around we all worry

now what right because I feel like you do not write a book until you have got something to say

because this is just your mark well I'll tell you just even you know think about like for me just the Pope

“when they asked me for my work in the foundation to go to the Vatican and accept this”

Pontifical advocacy award the first time I was asked kind of like that for a moment I turned it down I was like I didn't know this yeah I know you had turned down the Oprah the first time I didn't know you on the book I was like I can't get there and they're like oh my gosh literally the opportunity came around where they asked they next year they want you to go and I had two of my girlfriends go we are taking you we have to knock you out of knock you out we will take you and you're going

and I am so glad that I did and I went with my family and it was an amazing experience and what

was interesting besides obviously all the pomp and pop circumstances with that ha ha that was pretty incredible um was just until the moment where they were giving me this award and it's just

“beautiful um background piece with all the saints engraved and everything until that moment and everybody”

stood up and what was also wild is that Tony Robbins was there and he spoke right before me and I'll Tony Robbins and I in my earlier life was when we were doing my very first infomercial so it was sort of this weird strange moment of like the infomercial right and here's Tony

and I and now that's hard all these years later there's Tony who's doing his amazing good work

and he's also at the Vatican talking about what he's doing and there we are and it was just so for just that moment right before everyone stood up and it was only until then that I really looked up and I went wow what have I even do I mean oh this is amazing um because I do just put my head down and just like do the work um the foundation as I said I was working I've been working at the speed of life when you start meeting people and at one point Ally and I

Ally said to me mom this isn't just about the two of us it's so much bigger and it really is you start seeing so many people that are affected and the foundation has gone around the world you realize wow this is bigger than me and I've got to really organize and get through my own worry and stress and anxieties because through it when Ally has an attack it's very bad she can go between blindness and paralysis and you don't know if it's coming back so now again in actual

real-time situations while you're also trying to find cures and get people on board when you're having to build those bridges that I talked about there's a lot of dynamics that go in that and so it's been extraordinary to see the foundation now when I first started it was interesting they said you

“know to cure a disease you have to have a lot of you have to have samples you have to have samples”

from people and I'm like what does that mean what do you mean and I you're going to have to have people's blood samples and I was like how am I doing that how am I first just trying to even find people that have this because at the beginning there was no one even knew who had it so finding somebody and now I'm going to start having to get people's blood hence I thought I'm going to start a program called blush for blood bringing my crazy beauty background into like I'm going to get these

women together and if you give me your blood you'll get a blush it sounds so absurd but it shows when you're working at the speed of life when you think you've got four years before the sands of time on your daughter's life is running out you start doing all different things and we had a woman and nurse that would literally go anywhere in the world and she would collect people's blood samples I now have a hundred thousand samples in a bio bank with everybody's data because

you realize too in the world of medicine people don't share information so I also was fortunate

through the success of my company and my husband's we spent eighty million dollars of our own money

we don't have any deals kickbacks with pharmaceutical companies nothing we've spent eighty million dollars that's just out there in the universe to help catalyze what has been now four therapies that are out in the market that serve the world worldwide for their peace or their cares of your work you know available yes out there yep so that's just been extraordinary and every year I do a conference I bring in patience and caregivers researchers and scientists I

how I've gotten things done it's fostering collaboration and people working together well thank you for sharing all that to you because when you again when you do something you do something

yeah like when you do something you do something you do something and with this new beautiful powerful

book we all worry now what can you talk about and the warrior walk yeah and and warrior wisdom

“I think you know for me I just share wisdom what's great about the book too I have to say is the”

the women that have offered up and there's a couple of wonderful guys in their Jay Shetty and Yogi Cameron but I wanted people to see how do people navigate there when they're worried how do they deal with stress anxiety worry and so each chapter opens with whether it's Jane Fonda talking about what she worries about and climate change and how she deals with that or Gloria Steinem and how she navigates what she thinks about you know in the in the world today and I and the the feminist

movement that she started and Chris Jenner how she deals with the the Kardashian group the amazing

empire that she has built how she deals with that with her faith every day so I thought that was really interesting and for me I just wanted to showcase in the book it's really whatever works different things work for different people for me it's zooming out it's taking that next step it's getting that perspective but it's still moving through it's knowing when I have to take that time just for myself or I have to go and meditate or I have to just be quiet or I have to just go out with a

bunch of girlfriends and you know have a night of drinking some wine you know it's knowing what that prescription is for me that helps me get to that next place that I've sort of set my sights on. Yeah and and just to kind of share a little bit more about that in this book you have a number of the people you just named all contributing to it really and sharing how worried she's up in their life and what they do about it I wanted to ask you specifically about the five steps like the

five steps to slow anxiety spiral from warrior to warrior and and the five steps that you talk about. Well for me a lot of it is we get stuck in the rumination. Yeah you know we really everybody just sort of rumenates and we you know that analysis paralysis we just get really stuck and it's just having to work through even the rumination you know that fear that we have that we're not going to get it right or just being immobilized you know so I think that that is a very

big one for me that I found was really helpful to people that they just rumenate they're like nothing's going to work nothing's going to get me out of this and they're afraid like you have to

“you know zoom out you have to really zoom out and try to get perspective that's what I do first”

and foremost I have to look it's almost like that just it's almost in this strange way when I was disassociating from my what was going on I had to almost disassociate zoom out look down it's somewhat as what I do now except I'm much more associated than disassociated but I'm I'm looking down at what the situation is I'm looking down at what's the problem here what do I want to try to achieve I'm trying to like do this almost like mapping in my head and then I go through

my next step which is just take that next step try to just get through that next step whenever that is for me whether it's you know calling a friend or taking an action or going through a walk that's what's really important to me is those two I'd say for me more than anything get me

“started because you got to get started and I think when you're just sharing the zoom me out of”

is that kind of like an example that maybe when you talk about what you went through with your daughter and and now if a problem arises that you might worry over you can actually zoom out and have like perspective like okay no one's dying here it's going to be like having that kind of zoomed out perspective that makes whatever's happening in the moment feel well I was reading I attributed to Roblo but I know it's I'm not sure exactly where that saying came comes from and

it really does help me especially since I live it and it's still a world of never knowing

if my phone's going to rain and got for a bit my daughter's having an attack or so I always have to say if it's not happening now so it's keeping me always in the present so if it's not happening

that I'm worrying about hasn't happened yet so it keeps me more in the present that's really good yeah that's really powerful because so many of us we live we worry about stuff that happen in the past or we worry about stuff that might happen in the future and or might repeat itself again or but it's like if it's not happening now it's not happening and I know what Jamie here's the thing too like looks like yours and I mean this sincerely are really helpful I I really believe in

I love to support other women other people's philosophies you know my book my thinking is one way I want to just share it but there's so many great people out there like I know so many of all these listeners have all listened to your book or they read your book it's really powerful so I'm

always going back to even with whatever is coming up in my life I'm gonna flip a page of yours open

I'm gonna go back to you know buying Katie and look at some of her things like things that I'm somebody that's always that's because I didn't go finish high school I didn't go to college that's really been my education my education has been my friends my other women men that

“write things say things I think that's really important I will of course I want people to you know”

read my book and I want it to help a lot of people but there's a lot of good things out there that you have to find out like what resonates for you what ultimately is going to get you to that next place to move to zoom out to have that perspective to take that action so that you can come full circle for yourself you say belief isn't a prerequisite to overcoming worry but what you choose to visualize can impact your ability to kind of move through fear and worry yeah I big book that influenced

me at the time was book by Shakti Gawain called Creative Visualization and so for me and I know my husband he's a big believer in Napoleon Hill like if you you have to believe it to achieve it for me I'm much more of a visual person and and by the way I think believing in achieving it is

critical too for me I just have to see it like I work with visuals pictures in my head and if I can see it

then I'm more able to achieve it and what's an example of that I have to see things if I want to manifest something yeah I would see this is a good thing for people to think about like manifest picture you know the house that you're living in maybe the car you're driving whatever it is that you want to manifest I have to see things I see them as pictures so even with my daughter I was seeing a cure I was seeing whether it was her taking a pill that was like the therapy I see it in my head

“and then I work to create it so I think if you can create this kind of picture book this the”

stories that will go along with the pictures for me seem to follow so that that's really how I work so I have found that with this kind of creative visualization all of a sudden it's interesting like I wrote one of my early books people said well how do you did you know about to be a CEO of a of a company and I was like I didn't so for me and I know people have different feelings about acting as if they like it they don't like it for me I just had to picture it I had to see it in my

head and then all of a sudden one day I would be thinking like how does she dress how does she talk what and then one day I realized I was that person like they sort of seamlessly integrated and

I was always very very insecure I think I told you this story of when I was shooting my very first

information and I was very nervous I'd been just at that point just the makeup artist on sets and now here I'm going to be now doing this is my show with my products and I was very insecure and showing up that day I just thought I I don't know that I can pull this off I wasn't even used I didn't even wear match makeup so which was also always doing no makeup makeup then so I was kind of doing some new things that you know just I wasn't sure how they were going to be received and I

“remember that the gentleman who was shooting that day doing all the photography and we're getting”

ready before the shooting looks at me and he goes Victoria I have photographed some of those beautiful women in the world and I have found there's two types of women there's women with great beauty and there's women with great brains and you are a woman with great brains this has this to me I'm like oh wow okay yeah and I'm thinking like with all these people there I'm like did he just call me like a dog like what what he goes so we're going to put you outside

when he keeps him air and it's going to be beautiful and I was just like and it was such a gift

worst fears had been I was afraid I wasn't pretty enough smart enough whatever it was and as I sat there in the chair that he put out in the parking lot was the cars are whizzing by I said I'm going to go back in there I'm going to shoot this and I'm just going to like sell my product from my heart and I'm going to visualize that people are going to love it they're going to call they're going to buy it and you know from my very first show we did a million dollars a week in sales

and it never really stopped so I'm very much about no matter what happens and a lot of that's going to happen you give that power to that thing that you don't want to happen and then it's happening it's just how you navigate it how you get through it how do you what do you see on the other side of that and that is so impressive because I think I would have been like what would be like first of all they're not two types of women that could have been like I would have been

feisty that's amazing so you zoom out and you're like okay here's what I want to visualize

exactly and you did that yourself all those years on QVC I'm sure you've visualized yeah all those people calling in and and buying the cosmetics and all the amazing success you've

“had with the book somewhere in your brain you have to have pictured it seen it and then you just”

you work to manifest that there's a lot of hard work yeah and I find sometimes I like choose what I want to visualize and sometimes I just see something yeah and I'm like oh I think that's good because I think that means it's going to happen and then it sort of like boost my belief but yeah I remember so many times I did over a thousand live shows on QVC and I once heard actually Pastor Joel Ostein said that when he first started doing sermons he was very nervous and he

would pray that when people would be changing the TV channel when they would turn him on that they couldn't turn away that they couldn't turn him off so I started doing that prayer but before the QVC stuff and I I you know I would visualize like a person at home I didn't even matter if they bought something but I like and I would visualize them and just sort of like feeling more worthy of they

“you know just saw felt seen through stuff and yeah I've visualized stuff a lot yeah um I believe”

in that and I think what you said is really is really powerful because some of them might be

worrying about something and maybe you can't quite believe the solution yet but if you could visualize it it sort of like that step exactly yeah yeah so it's whatever it is it's going to help you and for me I work best in pictures and visualizing and I did it you know I'm still doing that with my daughter I'm visualizing I will have the cure I now have the therapies that are managing it but I will have the cure so I will but and I say between the power of love,

intention, visualization I will get that there's really nothing that you can't do it's really nothing well talking about if I were to visualize the most beautiful bookstore in existence I think I might visualize a brand new bookstore in summerland California called godmothers that is literally

opening the week that this comes out so amazing timing and can you talk about what a special

“place that is and how you've created you know I think I think when I think of the throughline of”

our conversation and I think about every person listening and watching this I just I really hope everyone hears that all of the things that you want to do and can go after and continue creating and continue impacting can coexist with the stuff that we think you know maybe something that would disqualify us from doing that right or maybe something that's just us or that we hide in or feel shameful about or feel like oh something's wrong with me because I worry or have anxiety

or this or that but it's like okay the doesn't disqualify you and taking these steps right whether it's through some of the lessons and we all worry now what through the different things you share that can resonate with you different you know whether it's therapy different modalities different we're all in different journeys of figuring out what works for us but that both can happen yeah yeah and that's where you know you don't know what the surprise is in life like for the bookstore for

example yeah I have a wonderful partner Jennifer Rudolph Welsh amazing powerhouse all on around within amazing story and we decided one day talking that you know bookstore a gathering space um godmothers you know honoring the women that have done some of the most incredible things in the world and um I saw that in my head you know I saw the building I saw what the story would look like and then just worked to create it now I didn't have plans my whole life I was going

to you know have a bookstore and I'm thrilled this is another chapter literally of a book that

in your mind you know and not know and what the surprises are that I met somebody who also had a

“vision and we connected and also decided to do this and that's going to coexist along with the”

work that I'm working on still in medicine bringing back my no makeup makeup yes I mean all of those things um I have it on right now I'm obsessed with it thing let me just let me just say this right before we started filming I actually showed Victoria my compact because you have I love see how I how for me when I built it cosmetics it was like what's one product that's like you're the best you know that I want to use every day and with your no makeup makeup foundation I opened it to

show Victoria how literally I use it so much that it's down to the pan I'm like I want to show um I now hoard it it's that it's so great and and this is really really um special and cool too

you know one of my best friends Jackie was always in the fitness and she left her kind of dream

of doing a fitness career and joined a cosmetics and our living room before we came before to pay ourselves and she went through that whole journey as our very first employee we grew to her 1000 employees now many years later she just launched her own company again um called a fit kitty that you know it's about um uh at leisure and fitness it's part of who she is you you know 40 years ago pioneered change the beauty industry um no makeup makeup you've had so many different um

beautiful chapters in your life and offerings to the world um many of which we've talked about on this episode many more we haven't but uh now you are launching this brand new evolution

of no makeup makeup that I'm now wearing obsessively and that's incredible yeah I wanted to make

“13 shades of what I was going and I do call I think it's like the best foundation on the planet I'm”

like I'm just going to come up with this one amazing product right now that is truly awesome and is true to what I've been talking about for 40 years yeah and trademarked a long time ago no makeup makeup um because I really and so much of it came to life for me as I did go to the jails for so long and I would see women that were using makeup as a mask or as war paint in there a lot of times that I just want I wanted women I want to help them like looking feel their best

but just not overly do it and as I've gotten older and I'm now getting close to turning 70 you just don't you don't need to wear a lot of makeup you know it actually can age you in all the wrong ways so and even if you're young I want people to have like great skin and not calling their pores and overdoing it and layering not to say can't have fun but I just did want to make like the perfect amount so we're just less as best more as too much no makeup makeup is just

perfect so I'm really really excited about it so many of my friends are using it and posting about it and it's a it's also a new world for me it's sort of like 15 years ago um I stopped as I said mascara to medicine I was selling through infomercials in QVC and now it's a whole new frontier of creators and influencers and you know marketing in a whole different ways so um but I do believe

“as I believe then if you've got a great product product is king that's what gets people coming back”

that's what makes people use it up so the little pan is showing and they're compact thank you very much I think it's so beautiful because I think you know I just know one of the things I love about this show and launching the Jamie Kremlin show and having these conversations it's like get messages after the show right when this airs and there will be people that will write it and be like I just realized that you know 10 years ago or 20 years ago or 40 years ago I used to love

this thing and it's actually in me and I want to do it again yeah right or do it better or do it in a different way and and I think that it's so inspiring you shared you're almost 70 like you know and you're launching this business like it's incredible and also of course you are yeah and you thought it I mean and that is the best part of your show and shows like this that you're doing it because it's it's women can do it we can do it and I don't want to just women I'm

going to say women and men and everybody it's like you just got to do it you just you know if we all worry now what helps give you a start and it's by the way it's the first time I read

the actual I've done this is the fifth book but I'd never read any of the books I did the audio

version and it was great if I can help guide you through if you can hear it in my voice anything that

have the stress the anxiety the worry the blah blah but there's so many beautiful things out there and there's so much potential that everybody has inside of them that good for you for helping

“unlock that it's just there's nothing more beautiful than that well that's what you're doing”

in this book and I think you know if you're watching this video listening right now and you feel like worry is holding you back or anxiety or any of that and you feel like you feel like your relationship with worry and how it is in your life right now is almost like costing you your joy or your freedom or you know keeping you stuck I am so excited for you to read we all worry

now what not only Victoria sharing her incredible wisdom in this beautiful book also a number of

other luminaries out there who are sharing you know how they've navigated worry in their own life and like you said earlier I think that we can all when we all just like share our story then what's worked for us it's like you then can you know not only see yourself and other people feel less alone more enough more in community in this journey but then you take what serves you

“out of it and I think you know you take what what you feel resonates with you that you can apply”

to your own life and your own journey and so really excited for everyone to pick up their copy of what we all worry now what and also you know you can also get it the audio version as well and what I wanted to ask you Victoria is everyone listening watching right now who wants to pick up their copy of the book or grab their shade of no makeup make up or learn more about the gothty jackson foundation and everything else that you're up to and where's the best place for them to find

you so the best place for the gothty jackson foundation and for anybody doing with any medical and the in the world of autoimmune disease NMO resources is an app you can download it on your phone for free if you have a friend that maybe was diagnosed or family members doing with MS there's a lot to learn about NMO that will really shed some light on autoimmune disease autoimmune disease and cancer is what I'm working on now in in addition so that would be where you would learn

that um you could also read saving each other which is what I call my mom war that alien I wrote

together when she was first diagnosed it's actually a very very powerful book and one at the time

I didn't promote as much because I was really just living you know working on um cures and not taking a whole lot of time out for the promotion but it's a really powerful book and also in that same area would be the power of rare which is a blueprint for a medical revolution for anybody out there that is working on how to think about cures and this is really the road map the blueprint of how I was able to get four therapies made and it's a very powerful book

that I co-wrote with Dr. Michael Yemen who is head of molecular medicine at UCLA and my partner in all things science and um and then in terms of makeup uh yep let's switch gears to makeup there is no makeup makeup.com and you can follow us on Instagram and all those fun things um and the book the book is gonna be out it's at godmothers it's online it's in pre-order as you said

“on Amazon and I'm really proud of it I think it's going to help a lot of people I'm very grateful”

thank you today for having me here to be able to talk about it and um and having people just hear about my story hmm well thank you so much um thank you for your friendship thank you for your leadership and so many areas of life like thank you for your championship of stuff that matters thank you for sharing parts of your story today and I'm so excited for everyone to learn a lot more and we all worry now what if you love today's episode two my only ask is that you please click

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