People Are Going To Drone Bomb Our Data Centers! Says Blackrock CEO Larry Fink

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Here's Larry Fink. Now, if you don't, Larry Fink is, he's Dr. Evil. He's the guy who runs the world. He's the head of BlackRock.

“And there are the people who own everything, right?”

And so the idea that communism is bad, because you don't get any choice, and there's just one central place that makes everything.

Well, it's amazing how capitalism and communism

ended up in the exact same place. Because you don't have to. Yeah, you get 40 different choices of cereal. But you have owners. So there's only three companies that own everything.

It's BlackRock, it's State Street, and it's Vanguard. And there are the equity people, and he's one of them. And he's more powerful than presidents. He tri-dattled Trump, he's his boss. This guy-- so that doesn't, by the way, that doesn't

happen in China. China, the billionaire capitalists are not above the politicians. In America, the billionaire capitalists are above the politicians.

In China, that doesn't happen. They have capitalism, but-- Are there enough mass immigration? But they have, but the government is above them. And they put their bill in, that's not--

it's the exact opposite here.

OK, and so--

“So I would, there are enemies supposedly,”

because these billionaires can't believe. That's right. That the state could come down on a billionaire. That's right. They can't believe it.

But here he is. And he's going to tell you that their building is AI data centers for surveillance, so they can-- when you step out of line, so they're going to give you a UBI, right?

So they're going to cut your jobs, right? So your jobs are going to go to college. You're going to be settled with mountains of debt. You're not able to afford a house. Plus, now your job is going to be taken away

by an AI machine and an AI data center. And so that's the cheery. Hey, you graduated college. No job. And so now what he's going to do--

that they built all those ice prisons, they didn't build them for immigrants, they built them for you, if you-- now I'm ready to revolt, right?

“And so now he knows people are ready to revolt,”

especially against AI data centers. And he's afraid they're going to start bombing them. He's afraid people are going to start bombing AI data centers. Wouldn't it be-- Don't then he'll have someone do it, by the way.

Wouldn't that be horrible? Yeah, go ahead, Kurt. What was it the thing in the afternoon where one's flood, the government group that was supposed that everybody said was going to put you in 10 months.

FEMA. This is the new FEMA. This is the new FEMA. This is the new FEMA. And so let's listen to him.

Now because of drone warfare, we have to re-look at all forms of security. Have a need for-- Gravyin. The multimedia market, please.

E-C-C region. So I got this off that Gravyin website. And they insert their little commercial over this-- Over this guy talking. You don't go from them, tell me.

I can see why this guy feels insecure. He can't even stop Gravyin Marketplace for message from interrupting him. That was the Gravyin. But now because of drone warfare,

we have to re-look at all forms of security. Have a need for Gravyin. The multimedia market, please. E-C-C region, we build it so that it's could be in a position where it's not

going to be obstructed by drone warfare. So what? Gravyin. Many more things to add to the multimedia market place. But even here in the United States,

if we're going to be building less cities, one gigawatt data centers, how do we make sure

we're not protecting those 50 billion, 75 billion dollar

investments? Gravyin. We have to multi-medium our difference. Because of the role of drone warfare. Right now, we're looking at it internationally.

But one of my concerns is, could it be a domestic terrorism using a $3,000 drug. Gravyin. So all types of things are actually opportunities. Not problems.

It's going to require, as we said, trillion dollars. A capital, governments cannot build these out alone. They don't have the multimedia market place. Two. Their deficits are started in mounting.

And we spend two little time talking about the US deficits and other countries deficit. So this is going to be the role of private sector. Wow. You see the mix of Michael Milkin, that lizard with the bald head,

the bald head guy, when to present now.

Here's what-- so they know that people are going to revolt.

I have to remind people. I'm not encouraging people to do violence. I'm just reminding people that this country was founded on violence. The last time the ruling elite was this

unresponsive to the citizens, George Washington picked up a gun and started shooting people. Yeah, you could show the whole thing down, just not participating, by the way, zero violence. That's-- everybody could all do that.

And now, so now he knows that that spirit is in America's spirit of freedom. Don't tread on me, why we have the second amendment. He knows this and he's afraid of it.

“And that's what that tells you right there.”

Oh, my God, people are going to start joining them. Thank God, Trump put $80 billion. Not into your life, getting you high-speed rail or health care, you could afford, or schools, or parks, or anything nice that you're talking about, or infrastructure.

No, no, he put $80 billion in the prisons because he knows people are going to start revolting. Just like that guy who actually is Trump's boss. He knows this.

Here's what Tucker Carlson has to say about it.

But consider the concern. So if you're rolling out what they're telling you and clearly they believe is the single greatest technological change in the history of human life on this planet, is the biggest thing that's ever happened ever.

Then you think one of your main concerns to be, well, does this change the relationship of the powerless to the powerful relationship of the citizen to the state, for example? What are your concerns to be, how do we do this

and bring about the prosperity that it promises without totally eliminating human rights, making people slaves? 'Cause we're against slavery, right? Are we against slavery?

We were, how do we do that? But that doesn't seem to be Larry Finch's main concern. His main concern is, how do we protect our investment, this infrastructure? These buildings, these data centers.

Someone could drone them. Someone could drone them. Now, who? For an actor's his blah, a mosque? Don't know how just people.

Larry Finch is concerned that ordinary American citizens, as he just said, we use $3,000 drones

to destroy this billion dollar investments.

Why would he be worried about that? We've had electricity for over 100 years. There are 11,000 power plants in the United States. People don't bomb them.

“And you wanna see how people really feel about data centers?”

- Well, all of this is why. Then why won't they let people talk? Well, I'll get that done. That's a question. We need to be in the Gulf.

- Yes! - This is not real information. And we see it here like it's okay. It's a straight, it's a straight, it's Gulf. (crowd murmuring)

(crowd murmuring) (crowd murmuring) (crowd murmuring) (crowd murmuring) (crowd murmuring)

(crowd murmuring) (crowd murmuring) (crowd murmuring) - So he knows it's coming. - He knows it's coming.

- They all have known for as long as they've talked about it. They all, the guy with the hair lip, Ben Gertzel, go look up his speeches.

“He talks about exactly what's gonna happen.”

Lots of anger and violence. They plan for it. They have planned for it. The drone thing though, that's like they want extra like authority over the sky with that, that's all that means.

- I'm not telling anybody they should bomb an AI center. That would be horrible, that would be crime. I'm saying that they think you're going to do that. In fact, they know you're going to do that and they're preparing for it,

which is why they created all those prisons and the big beautiful bill, which is why they made it illegal for local governments to regulate AI data centers, and why they created an $80 billion prison industry.

So and a new police force, which is not there to get rid of the legal immigrants 'cause they want illegal immigrants because they want cheap labor. That's not what this is about,

which is why they're working just for black people. It's for all of you. - It's not, it's not just for black people this time. - That was just the test of, they test, of course, they're gonna test it on black people,

but ultimately the prisons are for you. - prisons are for you. - I mean, it might be black, so I doesn't really make sense, but you see I'm sorry. - I like how Larry thinks that he's afraid of,

he's not afraid of foreign actors

- I'm afraid of him. - Unfortunately, you can shout shame, you can't shout shame at a sociopath. - You're what?

“- 'Cause they were shouting shame at those people.”

- You can't shout shame at a sociopath, that's the same thing as shouting a cat when they piss on your rug. - Yeah. - It has, there's no effect.

And here's what they tell you,

if you don't want these, here's the three commissioners who were corrupted by the tech pros and they, at the same meeting and they were telling people to shout out what?

(crowd cheering) - Four or six, throw up. - For hell's sake, grow up, he says. - Yeah, throw up an exception. Take it.

- Yeah, that is not a local expression. That is a fruity and slip for hell's sake, grow up. That just bubbled right out of that guy. - Where? - For the sake of hell.

Bema, bema, bema show on earth where you live now. For the hell's sake that we've created in the United States, for that sake, bema, sure. And it should be the kind of mature that makes some lazy and sayingly lucky, corporate,

toady happy. That's the kind of maturity he's looking for.

Hey, what happens if he says for heaven's sake?

Does he just get struck by lightning and burst into flames? If he says for heaven's sake? I bet everybody would like to see that happen. - It's like when Bush said the Iraq,

the illegal invasion of Iraq, by mistake, and that's speech. - Yeah, that's the same thing. - Right, when he was talking about Ukraine, and Putin invading Ukraine.

- These three jerk-offs know what they're doing. They knew that people would be upset.

“That's why they get paid the big bucks to sit there”

and just like this passion and try to take it. Like customer service agents until the AI can replace even them. - Where'd you send it, Seth? Good, both of your emails.

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(upbeat music) - So now I want to talk about the data centers. So you've been making some posts about the data center. Let me play your video. - Thanks.

- Hello, this is Tony Heller from realconicscience.com. I live in Cheyenne, Wyoming. And this story is big news around here. Wyoming County approves construction of what could become the largest data center in the United States.

Project J could eventually use the same amount of electricity as produced by 10 nuclear power plants. Cheyenne to host massive AI data center using more electricity than all Wyoming homes combined. And a enormous data center in Wyoming

will consume five times more power than the state's people. The owner remains a mystery. This project is obviously going to make a lot of money

“for some people, but what about its environmental effects?”

The proposed 10 gigawatt data center will match the energy footprint of an atomic bomb every 52 minutes. That's a huge amount of heat. We should ask the question.

How do they intend to dissipate that heat without causing major environmental problems? Let's take a look at other industries, which generate a lot of heat, like steel mills. Steel mills are typically placed in your large bodies of water,

like this one at Gary in the Anna. It is located right on the edge of Lake Michigan. The heat generated at the steel mill is carried away by the water. This keeps the air temperatures in the region

from rising significantly. This photo shows another energy intensive industry. It's the raw-hide coal-fired power plant located just south of the border from Wyoming in Colorado. I took this photo during the record called

Valentine's Day 2021, the same day when Texas froze. These solar panels in the foreground were covered with snow and they weren't generating any electricity. Northern Colorado is completely dependence

on this coal plant for their power that day. The plant is cooled largely by evaporating water. Water evaporating out of the smoke stack directly cools the equipment. And water evaporating off of the slake

removes almost all of the remaining heat, none of the water is evaporating even in very cold air. Water is incredibly efficient at removing heat. The amount of heat which water can hold is more than 3,000 times higher than an equivalent amount of air.

The amount of heat which will increase the temperature of water by 2 degrees Celsius when increase in a equivalent amount of air by 7,000 degrees. That would raise the temperature of the air

to hotter than the temperature on the surface of the sun. The point being that water is very efficient at removing heat, but air certainly is not. The problem we've got here in Cheyenne is that we don't have much water.

The Western U.S. is experiencing the worst springtime drought on record. Cheyenne gets almost all of its water supply from snow milled. And as of yesterday, none of the mountain locations which Cheyenne gets its water supply from had any snow.

with temperatures nearly 10 degrees above normal.

“There's very little or no water available”

to cool this massive new data center being built. This means the data center will have to be cooled by radiating the heat off into the air. But as we've already seen, air is very inefficient at removing heat.

So how are they planning on getting rid of the heat equivalent to one atomic bomb every 52 minutes? To put this heat flow in perspective, this is equivalent to all of the solar radiation received in Cheyenne during the winter.

When the air is still during winter and summer, this is going to have a major effect on the temperatures in the Cheyenne area. The sun only warms the land up for a limited number of hours every day,

but the data center never turns off.

This graphic generated by Gemini shows what the temperatures on Earth would be if Earth's day length was 72 hours instead of 24. The sun provides a tremendous amount of heat to the earth, and the only reason we can survive it

is because our days don't last very long. If days lasted for 72 hours instead of 24, the middle of the day would be unbearably hot and nights would be unbearably cold. But the data center never turns off

so we never get a break from a teeth. There's a similar data center being planned in Utah where they're also having a very bad drought. Scientists are very worried that it could create a massive heat island

near the Great Salt Lake. We have the largest weather and climate super computing center right here in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Before rushing into this project, which could have a very bad effect on our weather,

wouldn't it be a good idea to do some modeling

“and find out exactly what the effects are going to be?”

They are rushing into these projects without doing a proper environmental assessment. And regardless of the weather effects of the data center, they're having a terribly bad effect on the local community. Huge areas of land are being converted into

hideous forest story apartment complexes which look like prisons. Apparently, these are needed to house the construction workers. The outline areas of Cheyenne are known for their large lots and houses space widely apart.

And this land is being replaced by high density and hideously ugly apartments. The social impact of these projects is huge and all of these people that bring in are using more water, which we don't have.

250 years ago, the United States was founded on the principle of consent of the governed.

But we were never given a vote on this.

Tucker Carlson recently confronted Kevinolliri about this. Well, Larry made the argument that his project was approved by a small commission. And Tucker Carlson responded, how hard is it for Kevinolliri

and Amazon and Microsoft to corrupt three county commissioners? The people of Utah and Wyoming deserve

“to have a proper environmental assessment done.”

We deserve to know the facts of what's actually going on. And the declaration of independence gives us the right to choose our own destiny. And there's another dark side to this story. Instead of doing a real environmental assessments

of the impact of this project, they are hiding behind the global warming scam. They want the public to believe that if they sequester the carbon from their generators, everything's going to be okay. But the problem isn't imaginary heat from global warming,

it's the very real heat coming from their generators and from their data center. Besides what I've talked about in this video, there's another very big question as to what these giant data centers are being used for.

But I'll save that for a different video. - Okay, so there's been a lot of pushback recently. There's been a video going around, I want to, so this doesn't seem sustainable, Tony.

I want to show you, I'm going to show a video in a second.

But you're right, they're not doing the modeling, they're not, this seems like they're engineering. A man made engineered real, not climate change, but a man made engineered catastrophe. Again, am I overstating this?

And why are they doing this? - Yeah, you may well be right. It may well be a catastrophe. And without the modeling, we don't really have any way of knowing that.

It might be, that with prevailing winds, a lot of the heat will get carried away and won't be a problem. But when the air is still, as a potential to raise temperatures tremendously, when that study by our professor and Utah,

so it can raise temperatures by 16 degrees, which would be catastrophic. With melt all the snow here, we've already got a problem with not enough snow. And it's hard to say,

but we definitely need that modeling. We need a proper environmental assessment. In the reason it's not happening, it's because the Trump administration is pushing through these data centers,

limiting rig, there was just our press release from the White House, that they want to push them through really quickly and ignore the normal environmental impact statement process.

- I mean, this is the kind of thing that leads to a revolution like this really does. Like so, you know, I don't encourage violence, but I just encourage people to remember how this country was founded.

When the ruling class was not with this in response of the citizens, George Washington picked up a gun and started shooting people. That's how this country was founded. When the ruling elite was unresponsive like this

to the citizenry, George Washington and a bunch of people picked up guns and started shooting people. People forget that, okay? And we do have a second amendment here,

I would never advocate people to do violence.

I'm just trying to warn people that that is a very potential thing that could happen. - Do you worry about something like that? - Well, Kevin O'Leary said the other day that he's worried that people are gonna make drones

that are gonna come in and destroy his data center.

“And I think that is actually a very real possibility.”

- So I wanna show you here's the video, why are so many people afraid of data centers as quick thoughts? Let's watch this and I wanna get your response. - Kevin O'Leary asks Utah an intriguing question.

What if you give me 40,000 acres of untouched land twice in size of Manhattan for a data center that we use more power than the entirety of Utah currently? Raise nighttime temperatures by 26 degrees, threaten the local ecosystem.

And in return, I'll provide enough jobs to raise the total job pool in Utah by 700th of 1%. What do you say Utah? - First, landowners are selling or leasing their land to the project.

It's not being given. Second, it doesn't make sense to think about percentage change in employment across the whole state. The data center is not being built across the whole state. It's being built in box, Elder County, Utah.

Population 65,000. If half of the population has a job, then we aren't talking about 700th of 1% of a change in employment. We're talking about plus 7% employment

because the project is expected to bring in 2000 permanent jobs at completion. Third, jobs aren't the only thing. In terms of taxes, the project is expected to bring in $30 million annually for box elder county.

In the first phase and more than $100 million annually

at full buildup. And that's for box elder county specifically. There's also money that would go to the state or the media program, but this is $100 million annually at full buildup to box elder county.

26 budget summary for box elder county shows us that the county currently has $52 million in revenue, they have a budget deficit of $11 million and they have a fund balance of $38 million. So the real trade being offered here

is I'm going to buy some land from private landowners and build the data center on it. You get plus 7% employment in the county and three times your tax revenue. It's I think sounds like a little bit better of a trade.

- After nearly 4,000 people lodged objections to the project, the complaints have suddenly gone silent. That's either because everyone has changed their mind or Utah has changed the process to where all previous complaints have been invalidated

“into a larger new one, you have to pay $15.”

Paywalling the complaint process to a foreign billionaire's tax exempt data center in your backyard is probably the best encapsulation of American democracy that I've ever heard.

- No, there's always been a $15 feed

illogical play. And if you bother to look into this at all, you'd see the 4,000-ish people who originally filed the protest, they did have to pay the $15 feed too.

And it's funny, I think, 'cause getting all the details wrong while you're quoting the Guardian out of context and fear of mongering and catastrophizing. Oh, no, this project is gonna be like 23 out of Bob's

worth of electricity. I would say that's the perfect encapsulation of the morning brew. - I've heard. - The project will require nine gigawatts of power,

which is going to this helpful webpage from the Department of Energy. Oh, wait, never mind that. I was deleted within the past six days. I tried to cover it on text.

That's about as much as the entirety of New York City uses on a peak summer day. The project will produce the thermal load equivalent to 23 atomic bombs worth of energy being dumped in the local environment every day.

- 23 out of bombs going off a day. No, that's way too many.

“That's what I mean about the catastrophizing.”

If it's a similar amount of electricity to New York City, does that mean that New York City has 23 out of bombs a day going off right now? It's just a silly metric to convert thermal load to nuclear bombs.

All you're trying to do is scare people. And make it seem like that's a big amount. - Well, let me stop it there. Is that what, what, how do you respond to that accusation? - I think this guy's got some sort of financial interest.

- Of course he does. Obviously this guy's been hired by the tech pros to do this, but go ahead, but so go ahead. I'm sorry, I interrupt you. - I mean, this has a serious disruptive effect

on our environment for a heat, water, or anything else. It's not, the money is not going to make any difference. If people can't live there, if it ruins their community, they're going to wish they didn't do it later on. That's why we need to have proper environmental assessment,

not snarky commentary from people like this guy. - Okay, he's got more to say, Tony. - I'm going to stop showing clips from his video and just speed through a couple more things that bother me, he says that it's going to raise the temperature

by five degrees or 28 degrees at night, but what he neglects is that it's going to raise the temperature in Hansel Valley, in this uninhabited desert valley where the power plant is being built, not in across the state or across the county or anything.

might be warm, I don't think that's such a big deal.

- What, how do you respond to that, Tony? - Well, there's been studies down of existing data centers which are much smaller than this one.

“And they show that there's a key dial-in effected,”

which affects about one degree Celsius at 10 kilometers and about 10 degrees Celsius at one kilometer. So he's understating it. In the case of Utah, I'm not certain what the situation is, but here in Cheyenne, it's very close to town.

And if we get a data center, key dial-in that large, it will definitely affect us here in Cheyenne. - Okay, so he's underselling this. - He's absolutely underselling this. We need a proper environmentalist assistant.

We need real modeling for people actually know what they're doing and not just people are pushing their rest in interest. - There are concerns about water.

The water for the project is not coming from the great Salt Lake

and it's not new water. It's currently agricultural irrigation that comes from water rights with the property owners. So because they bought that 40,000 acres, they can take water from the 40,000 acres

and use that to cool their data center. And there are concerns about how much-- - So he just said that, oh no, well,

“that's just the water's gonna come from the land”

that they bought, 'cause those people who own that land, they have the water rights to that land. And so, not to worry about, because that water's already owned by those people. What do you say that that seems really ridiculous

in a lot of different ways, because we've had a myriad reports and everybody's seen them that people's water is, well, anyway, go, you do take it.

- Yeah, well, it's goes back to the first video you show.

They made this Colorado River compact in 1922, which was based on unrealistic amounts of water being available in the upper basin states, which include Utah and Wyoming. But now they're having to deal with reality. Lake Meads running out of water,

they're draining, flaming, gorge, just to prop up Lake Powell temporarily. So the water rights are gonna have to reallocate it. And everyone knows this. So the fact that they may have water rights now,

doesn't mean that these water rights are gonna be theirs six months from now. So there's a shortage of water. We have to come up with intelligent ways to allocate it. Data centers is just not one of them.

These massive data centers do not belong in the desert. They should, if they're gonna build them, they should build them offshore, where they're seawatered to cool them. We're like Elon Musk wants to do in space. Space will be a great place to do it,

because you have an unlimited amount of solar energy out there to tap for them. I'd build him in Utah and Wyoming. It's crazy, and it's crazy that anyone would defend them doing this.

- So why don't they don't go do it offshore?

“Or why don't they do it in space like Elon Musk says?”

Why are they doing it in the most destructive catastrophic way possible? I have no idea, it doesn't, well, I think what I heard a couple years ago is they wanna put in places like Cheyenne, because we're high altitude and doesn't,

and the average temperature on the earth's low. So they don't have to spend as much money I'm cooling. They're equipment, but it doesn't make any sense. We don't have water, and it can potentially devastate our climate here, so it shouldn't be done here.

But the perhaps even more interesting is fact that a lot of people believe these data centers are doomed to fail anyway. What the Chinese are doing is something completely different. They've been building up their electricity supply

in Western China for a long time, and they built this huge fiber optic, high-speed fiber optic network around the country. They're what their plans are. It's 80% of their AI computing data center,

computing and distributed network, we just spread out all over the place, rather than what we're doing in the United States, it's concentrating them in these huge data centers. So there's a lot of talk right now

that these data centers are destined to fail, because they're based on a fundamentally flawed model from the getker. - Also, China is using nuclear power, correct? - Yeah, well, yeah, they have nuclear coal.

They've built hundreds of new coal for our dollar plants over the past five to 10 years, and they've got an excess of electricity available right now. - Okay, there's more to this. - Power that's using the development,

it will produce all of its power on site, and it's not taking power from the grid. Stuff like this is just missing. - So what about that? So they're gonna build their own power plants,

and they're not gonna take power from the grid, even though right now, there's horror stories around the country of people getting their power bills growing up 30, 40, 50%, them losing power, people not having heat in the winter,

or cooling in the, that's already happening.

like CBS, and this is not made up. He's pretending like every data center is gonna have its own power plant, and what's there to worry about?

“Even though right now, we're living in a health state”

because of it, what do you say to that? - That's a total of rules.

First of all, the fact that they're generating

the power on site greatly increases the amount of heat which they're creating. That's problem one. Second problem is they're creating pollution with it, while these on-site gas turbines.

But the biggest one here that he's not talking about, energy isn't free when they hugely increase the amount of power being used, that means they're making a lot of competition for natural gas, which is going to raise

everybody's energy prices. Not just around the power plant, but across the country. So this is a nationwide problem. They're hugely increasing the demand for natural gas, and the law of supply and demand,

means that the prices are going to go up for everyone.

- Yeah, so he's acting like,

“well they're gonna build your own power plants.”

Yeah, but you need natural resources to power the power plants, and what you're saying is that, so that's gonna deplete the amount of natural resources for everybody because the natural resources, which are currently going to power plants,

that everybody else you are not gonna be going to these things, so he's acting like there's some unlimited amount of natural resources which there aren't, right? - Yeah, the natural gas prices are gonna go up for everybody because of what they're doing with their generators.

That means you're heating bills, gonna go up, your hot water bills, gonna go up, cooking foods, gonna cost you more money. So these trying to make like look like it's a zero-cost, zero-sum thing, but that's not the case at all.

- Reality is that everybody pays for it.

- And again, with the water-right thing, I just wanna re-emphasize that we're in the worst drought in one of the worst droughts in history in the West right now. And so this idea that, oh well, this because somebody has water rights,

doesn't mean there's gonna be water, and that's another thing. And then of course, they're gonna steal water from regular people. That's because we live in an oligarch and we don't live in an democracy,

and so get your head out of your ass, but obviously this guy's got a different view. Let's listen to what else he says. Even if you disagree with me about the data center,

“I think you have to admit that he's not presenting it fairly.”

He doesn't explain why Box Elder County might want the data center, for example. And he catastrophizes the fears. Oh, it's like 23 Adam bombs a day worth of electricity dollars. And I think people like this just want to scare you for attention.

He gets millions of views by lying about data centers. And that's good for him, but it gives people the wrong idea. So thanks for your time. So do you think people are legitimately concerned about this? We see town hall meetings all over in people screaming

and county commissioners voting against the will of the people. Is what he said, Drew? - You know, Xavier, I've spent the last couple of decades trying to tamp down climate alarmism. That's how I've developed my reputations

by telling people not to be alarmed about climate, but I am genuinely alarmed about what these data centers came out of data centers are going to do to local climate, not to the global climate, but to what's it's going to do to shine Wyoming and Utah

in other places where they're building these. - So we got the power problem that there's going to be a higher demand for natural resources that's going to drive up the price of power for people, because there's a finite amount of natural resources

and gas and things like that. There's a finite amount of it. And so also water, where the worst droughts in history and the West though, that and also the amount of heat it generates and there's been no modeling done.

So there's many different problems that this video I've seen going around and he's also giving you a oligarch view of data centers. He's not giving you an out of view of it. He's doing the exact thing he's accusing that guy I'm doing.

- Yeah, one of these data centers for Jamie. I had lunch with the data scientists yesterday. He's a the only explanation he can think of for him is for mass 24 hours of railings on everybody in the country. He thinks that's the purpose of these mass and data centers.

Because we certainly don't need them for commercial use. We've got lots of data centers available now. Chinese models, AI models, cost about 110th of wet American models, cost operate already. And they're doing this without these mass centralized mass

of data centers. So we should step back and re-evaluate the whole American approach to AI because it may well be doomed to fail

like Kevin O'Leary with these gigantic data centers.

“- But of course, Trump jammed into his big beautiful bill”

because Trump is an enemy of the people and the enemy of the workers and he is a billionaire. So he is class loyal and he jammed into the big beautiful bill that you cannot, states cannot regulate AI. And nobody really took a look at that when he did it,

but this is what it's all about, right? Because he knew this was coming. - Yeah, well, let's take your back six years going to remember Operation Warp Speed. - Yeah, he pushed through, ignored all the normal safety test

in for vaccines, and then claimed he saved millions of lives when in fact he may have done the exact opposite. So this is a pattern with Donald Trump. (upbeat music) - This idea that we've been at war with Iran

for 47 years, or they've been at war with, but it's such a well-capped secret, even Iran didn't know they were at war with us. What is your response when you hear propagandists and tools of the military industrial complex

“say that Iran has been at war with us for 47 years?”

What is your response to that? - Well, Iran did an attack at rock back in 1980. It wasn't Iran that supplied chemical weapons. It was us to them, and Iraq carried out 20 chemical weapon attacks on Iran during the course of that nine-year war,

that started in 1980 and in 1988. That I know the guy who hand carried the intelligence to the government of Iraq to be used to launch military plans for attacking Iran. Pat Lang, he's unfortunately deceased now.

So the United States is the United States, who's been funding and supporting a terrorist group, called the M.E.K., M.E.K. was put on the list of U.S. designated foreign terrorist organizations in 1997, even though it had a 25-year track record

of carrying out terrorist attacks, including attacks against Americans in Iran, but under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, they took him off the list. In the CIA, my old outfit,

they began working with and providing direct financial support and training to the M.E.K. back in 2004. So we've been the ones carrying out terrorist attacks against Iran. The fact is that Iran has not carried out a single terrorist attack

by Iran against the United States. And we said, well, look at what they've done with Hezbollah and Hamas. And again, when you look at the number of terrorist attacks against the United States, 90% of them over since 2020, 2000,

have been carried out by radical SUNY groups that not only have no connection with Iran, but Iran was actually fighting those groups. So that's the other big lie. That Iran's the number one sponsor of terrorism.

No, it's not.

“- And so that's what made it extra crazy”

when Trump and his first administration killed General Soleimani

because it was actually on our side to find against those people who are actually attacking us, right? - Yeah, I guess, I guess, I guess ISIS, you know, he was the reason the Iranians were, they were asked to come into a help of Bashar Assad

because in 2012, Barack Obama thought it was a great idea and we were working with Turkey and the Turks wanted to get control of Syria. And so we started supplying weapons to the very Islamic radicals that attacked us on 9/11.

You wrap your mind around that, you know, on the one hand, we said, "Oh yeah, we're out here to fight this global war on terror." And at the same time, we're providing the weapons, the funding and the training.

You know, that's what was going on in Benghazi. Benghazi, they were collecting weapons including surface to air missiles from what had been in the living government stockpile. They were being cleaned up, the CIA operation in Benghazi

was in shipping them to Turkey through Cyprus. And then those were being funneled into these radical leftists that were in these radical extremists, the Sunnis, that were fighting against the government of Bashar al-Assad. And that's when Iran entered to fight against ISIS for God's sake.

So Iran's fighting against ISIS, Turkey's on the side of ISIS, the United States is on the side of ISIS, Israel's on the side of ISIS. And then, as predicted on this show in 2018, that if the CIA dirty war in Syria is successful,

the people who will be running it will be ISIS. And that's exactly what happened. They took us.

They used to be a 15 million, the State Department

had a $15 million bounty on Jilani's head. And now he's the head of Syria. He put on a blue Brooks Brothers suit, he takes off his whatever, his Khififa.

He's welcomed at the White House.

And I'm Jack Donald Trump says he's a good-looking guy. And that's because he's actually, so how could you explain that to me in a way that makes sense that we are literally in bed with the, and we still have Guantanamo open,

but we're literally welcoming the head of ISIS, the chief head chopper from ISIS to the White House. And by the way, he's in bed with Israel too. So that just goes to show me that in some ways that ISIS was in, just like El Qaeda was invented

by the United States, essentially. So it was ISIS invented by Israel and the United States.

“What do you, go ahead and respond to anything you want?”

- Well, this is like the terrorist version

of queer eye for the strike guy.

You take a terrorist, clean him up, put him in a brook's brother soon. You know, he knows cuisine, he's great at reading the wine list now. You know, yeah, he's presentable in public. But look, this goes back to the 1980s when Zabignev Brezhinsky was involved with a plot

with the effort to write to entice, get the Soviets involved in Afghanistan. And that's where we began working with the Islamic extremists. In 1980s, and then once we got the Soviets sucked in there, 'cause it did, a damaged Soviet society.

And that was part of his big national security strategy to weaken Russia. That's where we formed these relationships with these radical Islamic, you know, the Wahhabis, the Dale Bondis, not a Pakistan.

And that continued after the Soviets laughed and the Soviet Union collapsed and it became Russia.

And starting as early as 1993 was the first Chechen war in Russia.

Back by the same Mujahideen that we had been supporting in Afghanistan, then in 1999 started the second Chechen war.

“That's what brought Vladimir Putin to power”

because the Russian elite said that this guy Yeltsin, he's too drunk all the time, he can't handle this. That was a 10, 11-year war, it ended under Medvedev in 2010. But again, those Islamists that were brought in and trying to infiltrate Chechenia, they were from us.

We, you know, we had bought and paid for them. So that's why I say this entire nonsense about, oh, it runs the number one per veer of terrorism in the world. Unfortunately, no, it's not, it is us. We've been the ones funding it, we've been the ones enabling it.

And people say, "Oh, you hate America, no, I don't hate America." But for God's sake, just open your eyes and look at what's going on. So, just on a personal note, how does that make you feel as an XCA guy that it turns out that the United States is really the world's turn.

And Israel are the world's terrorists. Nobody else is doing anything what we're doing.

“We have 1,000 military bases around the world.”

We've created Al Qaeda, we've funded, we're in bed with ISIS, we're in bed with the biggest terrorists in the Middle East, which is Israel, where the ones who are funding them, how does this make, as a person, just take a moment and talk about how that makes you feel about your service

to the CIA and about your country? Yeah, you know, what I entered on duty in 1985, and Valerie Plame was one of my classmates. We had to, we did a career training program for a year. I was very much involved with the notion that, hey,

we're America, Ronald Reagan's city on the hill, a light to the world, a shining light of moral being moral and ethical, and trying to protect the world from extremism. It's okay, I bought into that. And I now evenly accepted a number of things back then,

and including when I moved from CIA down to State Department counterterrorism office, and we had the invasion, the Iraqi invasion in August of 1990. And boy, at the time, I had no idea then, even though I had access to class five material,

no idea about our role in the previous 11 years with Saddam Hussein. If I had known in 1990 that we had been providing money and chemical weapons and biological weapons and intelligence to Saddam Hussein,

I would have looked at that invasion, the so-called invasion of Kuwait in an entirely different way, and I didn't. It was only later that I began to discover this, and once you get the full facts and start looking back,

you realize the American people have been consistently lied to, gaslighted, and propagandized, into perceiving people as enemies who are not really our enemies and that applies to both even Russia and China, because we've got a war machine that feeds off of,

and I'm sure you've had some dealings with Holly,

don't wanna know who is the villain.

So you always gotta have a villain,

and say, "I'll give us a good villain "than we can build a story around it." That's been the US foreign policy. And so, who really runs? So it seems like none of this stuff that they're doing

at all never has anything to do with the interests of the American people, the workers. So, who is pulling the strings, and who does the CIA actually work for?

“- Well, unfortunately, I think the CIA is doing,”

it's not out, it's not an independent contractor, doing what it wants to do. I think the tie is into the financial interests of the United States, the major financiers, as well as the military, it's tried,

but it's true, the military industrial complex, and there are interests that are not the interests of the American people. - Oh, heaven's no, look, the interests of the American people right now is having lower prices for gas,

having prices of food stuffs coming down. And we got to, we got the exact opposite right now because of this war that we launched against Iran. I don't think the majority of Americans want to appreciate that with the shutdown

of the Gulf of Hormuz, and then when Saudi Arabia and Qatar in particular got involved with helping attack Iran, and then Iran shut them down, there are five key commodities, Jimmy, that drive the world economy.

“It's not oil, everybody knows about liquid natural gases,”

another one, but Eurea, sulfur, and helium. You know, 44% of the helium of the world comes out of Qatar, and then when you look at Eurea and sulfur, you say, well, so who cares about that?

Eurea and sulfur are critical to the production of fertilizers.

- I didn't know that, but, you know, what's this happen to start looking in? So I went, oh my God, so now you're looking at, if you look at plantings in the United States, like with wheat and corn, they're going down, soybeans,

going down, you know, farmers, they don't have the fertilizers to put on the crops. So we're gonna get it the late effect, because, you know, right now, okay, the foods and the stores, six months from now,

we could be looking at it completely different picture, and none of this serves the interests of the American people. - And, and how did that happen that the CIA, is it because our whole political system

doesn't actually work for, so the CIA,

“which I learned during Trump's first term,”

that they don't answer to the president, right? Because as Chuck Schumer famously said, that Donald Trump, for a very smart guy, is being really dumb to take on the intelligence community, 'cause if you do that, they got six ways of Sunday

to get back at you, and so what the leader of the Democratic Party at that moment revealed was that the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, they don't work for the president, and that question was, well, Rachel Matt, I should have followed up

with, well, then who do they work for? Of course, she works for the same people who control the intelligence community. So she's not gonna say that, she's a war pig. And so, how did, so is it just because of the way

the money works in our election cycles, that they control the, the politicians, so, and the politicians obviously don't work for us when they have a session at Congress, they're not in there doing a bidding of workers

or students or the elderly or anybody except the billionaire class that controls them. So it's the same thing with the CIA. They work for the same billionaire class, which is the military industrial complex

and the WEF Davos internationalists. Is that what I'm telling your stand? - Well, I'll say essentially yes, but let's divide the CIA into the operation side and the analytical side.

What I don't know right now is whether or not the analytical side is actually giving the president unvarnished truth that he doesn't want to hear. I saw that myself. I was involved in a Ron Contra back in the 1980s.

- Oh, boy. - And I had firsthand experience, I wrote regularly for the presidential daily brief and saw that I would provide George H.W. Bush,

first of his Ronald Reagan, then it was George H.W. Bush,

provide him with information about what was actually happening but he would do the opposite. Or he would react as if he hadn't been told that. So I don't know if it's a matter that on the analytical side they're not telling them the truth

or they're telling them the truth and the president's ignoring. So that's on the one hand. On the operation side though, they get their own, it's like an in-house operation.

Remember that the woman, the CIA chief of station in London, Gina Haspel, she was working

“closely with the berets in the whole Russia gate affair.”

She was helping try to destroy the Trump candidacy before he got elected. She was directly involved in all of that. And yet, who does Trump put in charge of the director of operations?

Gina Haspel, you know? So with the message that gets censored

out the community basically is,

hey, we can do whatever the hell we want. And we're not gonna stop us. Which is exactly what has happened. - Gina Haspel, who was also involved heavily in the torture program.

- Yes. - And when he appointed her to the first female head of the CIA, you know, she shattered that glass ceiling and then she picked up one of those charges of glass and started torturing someone with it.

So, so very, so was Trump,

“so Trump was like Brexit in a way that the elites”

who actually run things, not the puppet politicians, but the elites who actually, they didn't see it coming. They didn't think that was gonna happen. And so then they did everything they could to blow back on him. Even though he pretty much played ball with them

by appointing people like Gina Haspel. And so, and, you know, giving tax cuts to Billy,

he was basically like a regular Republican

and his first term except, but they did rush a gate again. So, they did see him as a threat, right? - Oh, yeah. - And, and go ahead. - Well, no, I just, I just gonna say that.

So, this actually started in 2015. John Brennan put together when he was then CIA director. He put together a task force at CIA. And a task force involves not just people from the CIA, but people from other agencies

like the FBI, like the Department of Defense. And initially, they were focused on collecting intelligence on all presidential candidates. They were there to support the election of Hillary Clinton. And they were even collecting intelligence

on Bernie Sanders back then. Once by December of 2015, going into January 2016, it became clear that Trump had the momentum then the whole intelligence apparatus, not just the US intelligence apparatus,

but the British intelligence, you know, Australians, they all, they all coalesced. And there was a massive campaign to paint Trump as a danger. And the reason was they feared he was gonna follow through on his efforts to take the United States out of NATO

or to reduce NATO. And there was also concerns that he might not support project Ukraine, which was in the works. But, and then that effort to destabilize his government continued.

Now, you could say in retrospect, the light of what Trump has now done in his last 12 months, that maybe they had a reason to try to keep him out of there and light of his now starting a new war with Iran and destabilizing the US economy.

But this was, there was a coordinated effort. It wasn't just domestic. It's CIA cooperated with the FBI, but they are also working and incorporating with British intelligence, Australian intelligence, and others.

And Russia gave served a dual purpose, right? It was to kind of delegitimize Donald Trump's presidency and get him tied up fighting that. But also to create a public support for the upcoming Ukraine war which was in the works for over a decade.

- Correct, correct.

“Yeah, it's important for people to understand that Russia,”

when the Soviet Union collapsed in Russia emerged. From the very beginning, Nelson sought to say, let us become part of NATO. Putin reiterated those requests in 1999 and 2001,

rebuffed, first by Bill Clinton, and then by George W. Bush.

But it was in 1995 that the NATO established a de facto NATO base in Yavari, which is in Western Ukraine. That became the de facto NATO presence and the number of exercises, military exercises that NATO began conducting with Ukraine

has started accelerating. And in fact, when you look at the countries, I spent 24 years scripting exercises for US military special operations forces. So I know what the patterns are and what the look for.

In this case, by 2016, the country, there was one country that was not a NATO member that had been the center for NATO exercises more than 22 other members of NATO. And that was Ukraine.

So we had made Ukraine a de facto member of NATO

And this plan was to use Ukraine as a battering ram

“to weaken and destroy Russia, break Russia up,”

take control of its resources. That was a plan. So yes, so the idea was that they thought they were going to be able to Balkanize Russia, split it up, sell it off to BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street.

And but they were able to do that to Ukraine. They're buying up their farmland and everything. But Russia is actually stronger now than they were before the war in last year. In fact, one of the reasons they hate the hatred

“towards Putin was it started in 2001 when he called it”

all the Russian oligarchs and basically said, hey,

number one, you guys are going to stop selling off Russia to these foreign companies. That's not going to happen anymore. Two, you're going to get out of politics. I don't want your money involved with politics anymore.

In three, you can then make money. But those are the two conditions. And you evaluate those. I'm going to put you in prison. You're very upfront about it.

Most of them agreed to do it. Miguel Corkoski, he was one of the ones that opposed it. He went to jail.

But that was the first one.

And then comes to 2003 invasion of Iraq by the United States. The country that opposed it was Vladimir Putin. And boy, if it go back, I went back and looked at track public, you know, how the press coverage--

prior to 2003, press coverage of Putin was pretty positive. Oh, what a great guy. So he's shown up on the Rosio Donald show or something like that. And then after he opposed us of invading Iraq, all of a sudden, he's a bad, bad man.

Yeah. George W. Bush said that he saw on two his eyes in his soul. And he was a good man.

“I remember that distinctly, him saying that.”

And then everything flipped. I mean, they used to go out fishing together on Kenny Bunkport. Yeah, that was unbelievable. Hey, become a premium member. Go to JimmyDorcavity.com.

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